1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: We did it. We made it to a Thursday Dan 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: and the Dan. It's Dan Patrick Show. It's our one. 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Come on in Marvin, getting a height and weight bell 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: ready because little Winston Patrick eight pounds five ounce. Yep, 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 2: moms turn yesterday. Mom and baby are doing well, so 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: that was a nice little surprise. Winston Patrick into the 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: world yesterday afternoon. Yes, Paul instant reaction on the name 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: Winston Patrick. That sounds almost senatorial, Senator Winston Patrick. I 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: like it. Well. My wife is a Winston Churchill fan, 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: and my son's middle name is Winston. Although it's weird. 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: I have a dog named Winnie, so that might get 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: a little complicated as well. But mom and baby are 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: doing quite well, and last I look, my son was 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: doing well. We'll get phone calls coming up. Got a 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: lot to cover today. It's a great day. Thunder close 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: out the Timberwolves and now you have Pacers in the 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: next game five, as Indiana tries to close out the 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: Knicks and head to the NBA Finals. The Knicks are 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: favored by four at home. I hope that they can 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: deal with the pressure of seeing famous people in the audience. 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: Apparently that's a new thing. I did not know. But 24 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: we're coming up with excuses why the Knicks can't somehow 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: win games at home. Eight seven to seven to three, 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: DP Show Email address DPA, Danpatrick dot com Twitter handle, 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: a DP Show pull question play the day, stat of 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: the Day. All of that forthcoming, win or lose, we 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: celebrate and that means all the remaining T shirts are 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: ten dollars. Right now Danpatrick dot com cleaning out inventory 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: to get ready for some new T shirts. Stat of 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: trading cards of the DP Show, and the first Hour 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: brought to you by Express Employment Professionals. They will help 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: you find work and their sweet spot is logistics roles Express. 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: They never charge you a fee for seeking a JOMP. 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: Go to expresspros dot com. All right, Operators, Sitting by 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Tyler eight seven to seven three, DP Show Email address 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: Dpadanpatrick dot com Twitter handle ATP show. Good morning. If 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: you're watching on Peacock. That's our streaming partner, the comedian 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: David Spade. A little later on today, Tim Legler ESPN 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: analyst will stop by as well. It wasn't pretty, but 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City tends to do that to you, as they 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: shut down the Timberwolves from the start, Minnesota scoring just 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: nine points in the first quarter. SGA had a business 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: like thirty four. The Thunder have four wins by thirty 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: or more points this postseason, first NBA team in history 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: with four playoff wins of thirty or more in a 49 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: single postseason. The previous record three wins of thirty or 50 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: more the twenty sixteen Cabs, the ninety six Jazz, and 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty six Lakers. Stat of to day brought 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: to you by Penni America, the official trading cards of 53 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: this program. But nine first quarter points. So in the 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: last thirty years, there have been a total of six 55 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: teams who have held somebody to fewer than ten points 56 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: in the first quarter of a playoff game. The Thunder 57 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: have done it twice this postseason. They held Denver to 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: eight first quarter points in Game four the second round. 59 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: They played great defense. I know that people aren't going 60 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: to tune in to watch great defense, but Okase, he's 61 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: just trying to win a title. You know, you don't 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: get style points. Nobody cares about that. If you're winning 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 2: a championship. It's not kind of how you did it, 64 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: it's just that you did it. And if it means 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: SGA get you thirty five a game, you play great defense, 66 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: and you hopefully get support from your supporting player, and 67 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: that's what's happened so far. Indiana the same way. And yes, 68 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: you're gonna have people who probably don't watch basketball on 69 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: a regular basis who are gonna lament the fact that 70 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: if it's Indiana against Oka sick. That's fine with me 71 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: because you probably aren't watching anyway, those who are watching 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: will and those who are fans, and you'll be curious. 73 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: You'll be curious to watch Tyres Haliburton and SGA. We 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: keep trying to look for the face of the NBA. 75 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: Who's the next face of the NBA. Well, it's Anthony Edwards. No, 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be Can Jason Tatum be it? No, 77 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: he's a great player, he's just not you know, a star, SGA, 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: great player, not a star. You know, there's there's only 79 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: a few of them. And we've talked about this and 80 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: it's not meant as a knock. I'm just giving you 81 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: the reality of will you stop if somebody's playing on 82 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: TV and go huh okay, or you'll seek out that player, 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: or you would actually buy tickets to go watch some play. 84 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: I mean Jokers great, there's a curiosity to him. I 85 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: don't know if he's got star power. I think there's 86 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: it's curiosity power. Luca has star power, Lebron still has 87 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: star power. Steph Curry still has star power. And we're 88 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: trying to anoint the you know, Yannis still has it. 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: We're trying to anoint somebody as the next the next 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: we keep it doesn't take long before we move on 91 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: from somebody, and then you move on to the next guy, 92 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: and then who's the next guy? Anthony Edwards is not 93 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: ready for it. He doesn't want to be the face 94 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: of the NBA. But because you get drafted higher, it's different. 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: You know, look at these some of these guys who've 96 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: been drafted mid first round, you know, Jannis Kawhi, you 97 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: know they they weren't rushed to be anything. They were 98 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: allowed to be something we wanted, indeed to be great 99 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: right away. He wasn't ready, wasn't healthy, Anthony Edwards. You know, 100 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: when you're drafted that high, it's like, okay, we want 101 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: to see what you have you get the pleasant surprise, 102 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: you know in the mid to late first round or 103 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: even second round with a joker, and I think we 104 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: don't allow these plays. Anthony Edwards is twenty three, so 105 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: he got to be fair to the timeline here. It's 106 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: just sometimes you see a pocket of greatness. And then 107 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: because we were looking for the next Jordan for how long, 108 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: Well we're still looking for the next Jordan. Anthony Edwards, 109 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: he reminds me of Jordan. No, not me, not yet. 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: I saw Jordan and there's nobody Jordan reminds me of Jordan. 111 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: That's it. There's nobody on the list where you go. 112 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: You know, he kind of looks a lot and remind 113 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: he plays like, yes, Paul, you. 114 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: Know, Kobe was really close and it was really overt 115 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: like he imitated Jordan. He studied Jordan and his game 116 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: offensively was a lot like it. His mannerisms were a 117 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: lot like it. Kobe came really close. 118 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to be Mike. He studied, he wanted 119 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: the mannerisms, everything about that. He came pretty close too, 120 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: came pretty close. But Anthony Edwards was asked after the loss, 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: if this hurts. 122 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: It's eciding. I don't know. 123 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 5: I don't know what people would think he would hurt. 124 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: I mean it's exciding for me. I'm twenty three. I 125 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: get to do it a whole bunch of times. I'm 126 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: hurt more so for myself for Mike. I came up 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: short for Mike. Like I said, we tried last year, 128 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: we couldn't get it. We try again this year. I'm 129 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 5: wanna try again next year. But hurting is a terrible 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: word to use. 131 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: I'm good, Okay, nobody's gonna work harder than him in 132 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: the offseason. Good And okay, see did show him the 133 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: ultimate respect because you have lou Dort who was just 134 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: face guarding him. This used to be called a box 135 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: in one where you had one guy on one guy 136 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: and then the other four playing pretty much as though. 137 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: And that is the show of respect. But still, Anthony 138 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: Edwards didn't get any further than he was last year, 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: and Luca took his team to the NBA Finals. They're 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 2: around the same age, lucas a couple of years older. 141 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: But you know, we're expecting young players. Cooper Flag coming 142 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: in next year at eighteen nineteen years of age, he 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: won't have that expectation because he's going to Dallas. He 144 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: won't be the focal point when he's there. But a 145 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: lot of these players when you come in, what are 146 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: you going to do for me? Now? You know Victor Wembenyama, 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: because the team isn't very good, he gets a little 148 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 2: bit more of a runway there. But at certain point 149 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: it gets to be three years, four years in then 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: you're like, are you gonna win a championship? We were 151 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: doing that now at an earlier age than ever. And 152 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: speaking of age, OKC is the second youngest team to 153 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: go to the NBA Finals. Everything seems to be lined 154 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: up for them to create a whatever the modern day 155 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: dynasty is, they should be there. They're consistent. You have 156 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to get guys to play defense. 157 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to play offense. But when you have a 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: philosophy team philosophy that is defense. And this is the 159 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: spurs a lickxer. This is the magic potion. For Greg 160 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: Popovich with all of those great teams that he had, 161 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: they wanted to play great defense. And you have to 162 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: want to play defense. Nobody wants to play defense, but 163 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: when you do, and it's contagious. We talk about offense 164 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: when somebody's you know, clicking and then somebody else's clicking. 165 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: Defense is you know, that's that's contagious, Like damn, he's hustling, 166 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: he blocks shot, you know, coming up with a steel 167 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: like just whatever those little things are. And okay, okay, 168 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 2: see has done that, yes, Marvin. 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: And being a defender pays in the NBA, like the 170 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 6: term three and D guy Jye McDaniels makes a hundred 171 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 6: million dollars isay, a hards time makes thirty million dollars 172 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 6: a year now, So it pays. So I'm just not 173 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 6: understanding why people were like, well, I don't need to 174 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 6: play defense because it pays in the NBA. They're paying 175 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 6: people at the Wazoo. 176 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: Pacers at the Knicks, and the Knicks are giving four 177 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: in Game five coming up tonight, all right, poll question seating, 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: what are we going to do first downur the program? Exactly? 179 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 7: What is the Wazoo will be our first pull? 180 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 2: Question? It is? It is? Yeah, yeah, it's the one 181 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: that we all use, but never question like who said, 182 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: oh you know what, I'm going to refer to that 183 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: as the Wazoo checking can you check and see how 184 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: we came up with Wazoo on it frizzy but. 185 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 6: Old Washington State University thing. 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 8: Probably not. 187 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 6: That's why they call themselves too, don't they. 188 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, wazoo up the Okay, what else do we have? 189 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 7: See, let's see, we got a couple here from the 190 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 7: to dub boom as well, start there intentionally walking about 191 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 7: in the first inning. It strategy or bush league, it's 192 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 7: a great one. Do you believe Caleb Williams wanted to 193 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 7: be a Chicago Bear and loves being there? Sure? Definitely 194 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 7: not old boy Stefan Diggs. I don't know if we're 195 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 7: ready to get into that just yet. 196 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: Man, I like I like Stefan Diggs. Every time he's 197 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: been on with us, he's entertaining. But man, you have 198 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: to confiscate everybody's phones if you're gonna be on your yacht, 199 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: it's that's the first thing you do. Uh, we're not. 200 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: We're not on display here. Everybody loves to record everything, 201 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: you know, we got to chronicle everything. I don't have 202 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: to chronicle that, you know. I don't think he's married, 203 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: although any going out with Cardi b is that Marvin 204 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: is not drama. See, I don't you don't need that 205 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: she was there. 206 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 7: And putting on way more of a display than Steph was. 207 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 7: So uh yeah, she was there in all of her 208 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 7: CARDI b neis. 209 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Oh, oh okay. But he pulls out some packet that's 210 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: got something pink in it. Up on what the kids 211 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: are doing now, But seeing any idea on what that 212 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 2: substance powder, whatever it might have been. 213 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 7: I assumed it was kool aid or fundp What it 214 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 7: was some type of powdered sugar, candy, sweet treat, sweet tarts. Yeah, 215 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 7: it's crushed up sweet tarts. Maybe he likes to put 216 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 7: it on his toast. I'm not really sure. 217 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh I'm not really. 218 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 7: Sure why you would ask me about that either. 219 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: Up the wazoo that's where that powder goes. 220 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: According to dictionary dot com, the first usage of up 221 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: the wazoo, University of California Berkeley humor newspaper called it 222 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,359 Speaker 3: let's run it up your old wazoo, meaning your backside. 223 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: But the actual definition these days is to extreme degree 224 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: or in great abundance, like I've got money coming out 225 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: my wazoo. It means you have a lot of something. 226 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: Okay, you didn't think we were going there this early 227 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: in the show, but here we are. Yes, thank you 228 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: for that all right? Any other pole questions here, we'll 229 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 2: get to the Bears situation with Caleb Williams. This story 230 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: is actually a couple of weeks old. Seth Wickersham has 231 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: a book on quarterbacks and you had a quote in 232 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: there his father didn't want his son to go play 233 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: for the Bears. That's where quarterbacks go to die. So 234 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: we'll talk about that. Caleb Williams addresses that he address 235 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: that yesterday. Anything else that we can at least do 236 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: a drive by on. 237 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're going to actually start with this one from Marvin. 238 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 7: When did the Timberwelves book their flights to can Kun pregame, 239 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 7: halftime or right after the game ended? That's going to 240 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 7: be your hour one pole question. 241 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: Wow, well, see, you got to put up a fight. 242 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: This is one of those that you could have had 243 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: a really good year in Minnesota. You had a really 244 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,479 Speaker 2: bad couple of weeks here. Therefore, this feels like a disappointment. 245 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: It didn't feel like they were closer to the NBA 246 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: Finals and case's only going to get better. And if 247 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: you're in Minnesota and you know you got the Dante 248 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: di Vincenzo and Julius Randall and see it kind of 249 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: changed the look of your team. You traded away Karl 250 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: Anthony Towns, but it didn't feel like they were ready 251 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: to take that next step. And you know, okay, see 252 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: impeded that next step, that's for sure. And for Shay 253 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: Gilgess watching him last night, he's gonna get a bucket. 254 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: He's gonna get wherever he needs to get. And this 255 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: is what great players do, great scorers do. They know 256 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: you're going to try to take away one thing, and 257 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: then they know there's another move and another, so there's 258 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: three that they're thinking, Now, you just take your chances. 259 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: What are the odds I'm going to get help? Here 260 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: sga off the dribble is going to get where he 261 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: needs to go. It's remarkable to see. And you know, 262 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: he's not a three point shooter. He's a you know, 263 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: the master of the mid range jumper. But he can't 264 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: get to the hoop. It's not exciting, but it's just greatness. 265 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: That's what you're seeing. You're seeing a truly great player 266 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: on display. And I do have the list of players 267 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: who have won the MVP and went on to win 268 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: the NBA title, and this is in the last twenty 269 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: five years. I'll have that for you. We'll take a break. 270 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: I'll see if you guys can I'm taking Jordan out 271 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: of the equation here, okay, because Mike did it a 272 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: couple of times. Perhaps you've heard of him, Michael Jordan. 273 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. Got our poll question 274 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: ready to go. Glad you're part of the program. We're 275 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: back after this. 276 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 277 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 278 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 279 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: listen live. 280 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 8: Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're 281 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 8: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 282 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 9: You could catch us weekdays from five to seven pm 283 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 9: Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 284 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 9: of course the iHeartRadio app. 285 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 8: Why should you listen to Cavino and Rich. 286 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 9: We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's going on 287 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 9: in the world. 288 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 8: We have a lot of fun talking about the stories 289 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 8: behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, 290 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 8: stories that well, other shows don't seem to have the 291 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 8: time to discuss. 292 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 9: And the fact that we've been friends for the last 293 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 9: twenty years and still work together. 294 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: I mean that says something right. 295 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 8: So check us out. We like to get you involved too. 296 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 8: Take your phone calls, chop it up as they say. 297 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 9: I'd say, the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, 298 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 9: maybe the most interactive show on planetar. 299 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 8: Be sure to check out Cavino and Rich live on 300 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 8: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app from five to 301 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 8: seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific, And if you 302 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 8: miss any of the live show, just search Covin on 303 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 8: Rich wherever you get your podcasts, and of course on 304 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 8: social media that's Covino and Rich. 305 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: With the excitement of my second grandchild. Yesterday, I forgot 306 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: to introduce the starting lineup. It's the Minister of Humor, Fritzie. 307 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: It's seat, and it's Marv Paulie, yours truly and the 308 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: back room guys. All right, so we settle on a 309 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: poll question. Phone calls always welcome each seven to seven 310 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: three DP show. The pacer is trying to close out 311 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: the Nick tonight. But if they can get it done, 312 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: you're going to have an NBA Finals matchup that's built 313 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: on one of the more unexpected foundations imaginable. Paul George. 314 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: That's right, Paul George, who hasn't played a single minute 315 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: for either OKC or Indiana in the last six years, 316 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 2: and he's the secret ingredient in the NBA Finals. Let 317 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: me explain. So back in twenty seventeen, Indiana traded Paul 318 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: George to OKAC in exchange for Demonte Sabonis and Victor Oldadipo. 319 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: Fast forward a few years later, Sibonis gets flipped for 320 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton and Sacramento and now the face of the franchise. 321 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: OKC followed a similar path. After two years with the Thunder, 322 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: Paul George dealt to the Clippers. That was a big 323 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: deal that sent Shay Gilgess Alexander in a boatload of 324 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: picks to OKC. Shay just won the MVPG and one 325 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: of those picks swaps turned out to be Jalen Williams, 326 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: an All NBA selection. So if the Pacers go to 327 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, does Paul George get a Playoffs share? 328 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I I think he's well comping. Does he 329 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: get a ring? Doesn't matter whoever wins. Do they have 330 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: a ceremony where Paul George comes to town and they 331 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: give him a ceremonial championship ring? Yes, boy, I. 332 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: Forgot about the hot Halliburton angle of that trade for 333 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: the Pacers. Oklahoma City is still dining out on that. 334 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: They were in the lottery three years ago and they 335 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: still have draft picks coming in from the Clippers. 336 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: They have more draft picks than just about every team. 337 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: I think they stockpiled these and Sam Presty, their GM 338 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 2: has done a wonderful job in building this team. They 339 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: got Chad Holmgren with one of those lottery picks a 340 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. They're a young team and built 341 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 2: for success, immediate success and long term success. We'll talk 342 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: to Tim Legler the mother Ship. He will join us 343 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: coming up next hour. All right, here's something. How many 344 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 2: players have won the MVP in the same season that 345 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: they won an NBA Championship. Marvin, I'll start with you. 346 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: I'm taking Michael Jordan out of this. Okay, Okay, So 347 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: Mike's out of this MVP and UH went on to 348 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: win the NBA Championship. Olijan Keim Elijah Wan is a 349 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: no wait wait, Paul, I will go with Larry Bird. 350 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 2: Players who have won both the m v P and 351 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: the NBA Championship same year. I've got Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, 352 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, Lebron James, Steph Curry. Now this is this 353 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: is in the last twenty five years. Oh, just to 354 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: be sare. Yeah, yeah, I'm dealing with kind of the 355 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: modern era of forgive the NBA or most recent So yes, 356 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Larry Bird and Kim Alijah Wan that's me, that's e Mey. 357 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: I should have said that there's you know, context to this, 358 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: but so Jordan, Shack, Tim Duncan, Lebron, James, and uh 359 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: and Steph Kurt. But you can check and see. I 360 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: know Larry did it, did it, can do it as well? 361 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: Anybody else who's in there, magic magic did it? Yeah, 362 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: I think eighty seven. Okay, so this is from nineteen 363 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: ninety on. I guess starting with Michael Jordan. There, Bob Coosey. 364 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: Bob Coosey did it. Of course, you're idol the guy 365 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: that you patterned your game after Bob Coosey. 366 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 7: Correct, that was the modern day Bob Coosey. That's what 367 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 7: they called me. Saint Mary's Regional High. 368 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: School, they called you the coos Cooso's. Yeah, yes, Marvin, 369 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure Bill Russell did it. Yeah, I'm good to guess. No, 370 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 2: but I'm talking about since nineteen ninety. You know what, 371 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: I didn't spend a lot of time and prep work today. 372 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: You know, I was all caught up and exciting. Correct. Yeah. 373 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean I'm mailing it in, but it may. 374 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: I may give the appearance that I today and I 375 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: don't mean to, don't mean to, but Fritzi, if you 376 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: want to scrutinize my my work ethic today. 377 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 6: So when Winston situation for you, it's all. 378 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: Good, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was yesterday. Today every 379 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: day is super bowlt all right, great, you had a 380 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: grand kid, all right, you didn't have it. 381 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 6: Now, but you're sharing it today, so you kind of 382 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 6: we have to celebrate that. 383 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 7: We're first finding out that today. 384 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: So a little excited. 385 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: You have two days of celebration. 386 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd, Thank you? All right? Uh Stephen in Dubuque, Hi, Steven, 387 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? Hey? 388 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: Dan, first time, long time, five eight one sixty five. 389 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: I want to say congratulations to you on the birth 390 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: of your grandchild. Congratulations on that. And I'll be quick 391 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: on this, but this has been living rent free in 392 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: my mind for the last couple of weeks and I 393 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: want your guys to take on this if you could 394 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: help me out with this. So the New Orleans Saints 395 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: in quarterback Hunter Deckers a few weeks ago after the 396 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: NFL Draft. He played at Iowa State. He was parties 397 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: backup for a couple of years. 398 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: Well. 399 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: He was one of thirty plus Iowa and Iowa State 400 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: athletes named in a gambling probe back in twenty twenty 401 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: three that resulted in him getting banned from the NCAA 402 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: that year. That year, away from football, he went to 403 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: Iowa Western Community College for a year, then the Saints 404 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: signed him two weeks after the draft. Statistically, he was 405 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: a giant amongst men at Iowa Western. It's common for 406 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: players to go from JUCO to d one like Cam Newton, 407 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, cam Ward, but not the other way around. 408 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: My question for you and the dan Nets, can you 409 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: think of another player to go right from junior college 410 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: or community college to the NFL. I'll hang up and listen. 411 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 4: Congratulations again on the birthday grandchild dances. 412 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 2: Thank you, Steven boy. That's a narrow pathway there that 413 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about, going from JUCO to the NFL. I 414 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: have to do some research on that. Not aware of that, 415 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: And I don't does the NFL punish this quarterback because 416 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: they've punished remember with Terrelle pryor with the Ohio State 417 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: with the tattoo scandal, and then didn't he get suspended 418 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: when he came into the NFL. Like you, if something 419 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: happens to you in college, then the NFL, I guess, 420 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: can discipline you. I think that's correct, that is. 421 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: And that was a weird one at the time because 422 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: what jurisdiction did they have to punish someone from a 423 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: college violation? 424 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was you know, he exchanged gear for tattoos. 425 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: Do you have somebody who's gun from JUCO? Somebody Marquis 426 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: who went from JUCO to the NFL? 427 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: People I could think of Tyreek Hill played at West Alabama, 428 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: but I don't think that's a JUCO. And there was 429 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: a guy named Eric Swan many years ago played defensive 430 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: tackle for the Arizona Cardinals. He didn't play any college football. 431 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 3: He like he had like that Sean Kemp situation where 432 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: he was in college but never played or something like that. 433 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: I can't think of a JUCO. Well, look, Eric Swan 434 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: deep cut that it's a big dude, big dude, all right, 435 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 2: seven to three. D P Show Email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, 436 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: Twitter handle at DP show. The Panthers closed out the Hurricanes, 437 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: the Oilers Stars Game five coming up tonight. Don't look now, 438 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: but Florida is dominating in hockey. You went from the 439 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: Lightning going to three consecutive Stanley Cup Final and then 440 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: after that it's been the Florida Panthers who are now 441 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: going to their third consecutive Stanley Cup Final. We mentioned 442 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: a little bit about the book that is coming out 443 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: on quarterbacks. Seth Wickersham, who does a great job, did 444 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: a lot of New England Patriot based books, but he 445 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 2: has one on quarterbacks and there is an excerpt in 446 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: there attributed to Caleb Williams and his dad where his 447 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: dad's talking about he didn't want his son to go 448 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: to Chicago, that's where quarterbacks die. Now, this came out 449 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 2: a couple of days ago, and this might be the 450 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: first time Caleb Williams got in front of the media 451 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: with OTAs and he had this to say about that quote. 452 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 10: Through all of you know, what was you know, going on, 453 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 10: through all of what happened, and you know last year 454 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 10: and in previous years. I think that was enticing. I 455 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 10: think that was something that was was was clearing to 456 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 10: me that you know, I wanted to come here and 457 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 10: you know, be the guy and be a part and 458 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 10: be a reason on why you know, Chicago Bears turned 459 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 10: this thing around. So that last thing that was said 460 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 10: and all of that, I think was the most important 461 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 10: thing is that I wanted to be here. But I 462 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 10: love being here. I love my teammates, you know, I 463 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 10: love all the people that that got me here. 464 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: All right. So that's Caleb Williams. The book is American Kings, 465 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: a biography of the quarterback Seth Wickersham of the Mothership. 466 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 2: He describes how Catob's dad, Carl Williams, ask attorneys to 467 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: find some way to work around the NFL's collective Bargaining agreement, 468 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: exploring UH signing with the United Football League and considered 469 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: publicly ripping Chicago and the Bears just to make sure 470 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: they didn't draft him. And he says in the book 471 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: cargo is a place quarterbacks go to die. Now the 472 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: quote used to be attributed to wide receivers, which Chicago, 473 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: Chicago is where receivers go to die. But here and 474 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: the reason why they may have gone to die. Is 475 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: that Chicago hasn't had great quarterbacks? Have they had a 476 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: four thousand yard passer in their history? PAULI never. The 477 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: answer is no. You know you had Jim McMahon. But 478 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: you know Jim was a wonderful college quarterback, and you 479 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: know they ended up winning a Super Bowl. Perhaps you've 480 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: heard the Bears won a Super Bowl. Haven't dined out 481 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: on that for a long time. But you know they 482 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: they were always defense and running the football. It wasn't 483 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: where they featured wide receivers and quarterbacks. So I don't 484 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: know if this is where quarterbacks go to die. That's 485 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: this starts in the front office. Who's doing the drafting here? 486 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean they they haven't drafted. I mean they reached 487 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: for Trubisky. He kind of was a good quarterback, but 488 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: not a franchise quarter Who do you have? Give me 489 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: all the great quarterbacks who played in Chicago? So is 490 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: that because they walk in so Patrick mahomes all of 491 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: a sudden put on a Bear's uniform. Is he not 492 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: any good? And the answer that's silly, of course he is. 493 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: It's what kind of front office do you have who's 494 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: drafting these players? Not to mention the other players that 495 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: you have on the roster. Caleb Williams will be fine 496 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: this year, and they have a really good offensive minded 497 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: head coach and they started to fill out that roster. 498 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Now he needs to make quicker decisions, not hold onto 499 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: the ball, don't get sacked sixty times, and they should 500 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 2: be a playoff caliber team. But if you look at 501 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: the list of great quarterbacks they've had, they go to 502 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: die there, but they weren't meant to live long to 503 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: begin with. And the wide receivers as well. Now you 504 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: don't want to go to Chicago if you're a receiver 505 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: because you're not going to play for a good quarterback. 506 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: Head coaching has been in a state of flux for 507 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: a long time there, So what kind of stability do 508 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: you have? And I think that you know, it's a 509 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: cheap organization, start at the top. I mean, there's a 510 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 2: lot here. But I don't believe that if you know, 511 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: put Joe Burrow in Chicago, you're gonna tell me he's 512 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: not any good. That's silly. He would be good, yes, Poon. 513 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: It is interesting your angle on this that you're kind 514 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: of somewhat defending the Bears franchise in their history and 515 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: more blaming on picking the wrong players because a lot 516 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: of people think that that are almost understanding of Caleb 517 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 3: William's father being hesitant to let want his son going 518 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: there because of their history. Without designing blame to anybody. 519 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, but I look at the front office here, they're 520 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: the ones who were drafting these quarterbacks. Paulie, give me 521 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: an idea, Give me the audience an idea. When you 522 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: run down, I'm just saying Pro Bowl quarterbacks. 523 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: Oh, pro bol I mean only alternates, like Mitch Trubisky 524 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: was a Pro Bowl alternate. Eric Kramer was a Pro 525 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: Bowl alternate. Kramer's statwise, it's the greatest single season passer 526 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: in Bear's history, and he's kind of a journeyman. Cutler 527 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: had a couple good years, but even he couldn't break 528 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: four thousand. 529 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: That's about it. Yeah, So once again, what are the 530 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: expectation levels when they're drafting a quarterback and therefore the 531 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: wide receivers. If you don't have a good quarterback, chances 532 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: are you don't have a good wide receiver. But Caleb Williams, 533 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: I think it's a great place for him because you 534 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: have a great coach there. They do have weapons, and 535 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: I think that they have built an offense around Caleb Williams. 536 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 2: Now this is up to Caleb Williams. And you know, 537 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: this ratchets up the pressure. When this book comes out, 538 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: this will resurface. He'll probably have to talk to the 539 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: media once again. Maybe his dad he issues an apology. 540 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: But this was a palace coup. They were trying to 541 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: avoid the Chicago Bears. I know he wanted to go 542 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: to Minnesota, but Minnesota was what fourth pick they took 543 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. The Bears wanted this guy and they got him. 544 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: So I don't know if the story progresses from here. 545 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeh see it is. 546 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 7: It's a weird spot to be in to defend the 547 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 7: Bears as an organization while also saying, hey, they just 548 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 7: draft poorly. It's like it's like this, It's like, yes, exactly, 549 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 7: like you're the reason why it's so bad. But it's like, hey, 550 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 7: you can't really blame the Bears. I mean, they're a 551 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 7: good franchise. They just happened to draft poorly. Yes, that's 552 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 7: exactly what Dad is saying. That's exactly what he's saying. 553 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 7: They're a bad place to go because they don't know 554 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 7: what they're doing okay. 555 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: But what happened first that you know had bad front 556 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: office or you had bad quarterbacks, and then quarterbacks didn't 557 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 2: play like they went to die? Right? 558 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 7: Are the Browns making quarterbacks bad or quarterbacks making the 559 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 7: Browns bad? I don't know, but I think it's the Browns. 560 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 7: I feel I feel like it's the Browns. 561 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: I saw her Joe Flacco. He's like, I'm not here 562 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: to be a mentor to these kids. They're probably asking 563 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: him by bym buy them beer. But he said, I'm 564 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: here to I'm competing. And then Kenny Pickett said, man, 565 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: I learned so much being in Philadelphia that I'm ready 566 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: to compete. Then I hear all Shador Sanders is lighting 567 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: it up in practice, So your guests as good as mine. 568 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: I do think Shador Sanders will be the starting quarterback 569 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: for the Browns at some point this season. Yes, Paul, 570 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Let's say. 571 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: You guys had a son who was going to be 572 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: the top pick of the NFL draft. Which team would concern. 573 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: You the most? 574 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: Let's say historically and maybe recently, Jets, Bears, Brown's other. 575 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: I'd have to say, let's think about it now. Although 576 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 2: I always look at the top and the Jets ownership 577 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: is terrible, and I think it trickles down from there, 578 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: because if you're not a good owner, you're not making 579 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: good decisions, or you get involved in decisions you don't 580 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: trust the people you have in place. I don't think 581 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: it's an accident that the Jets are habitually bad. The Browns, 582 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 2: I don't trust that organization the ownership either. You know, 583 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: sometimes you can have the right people in place, but 584 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: then the people above the don't let them do their 585 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: job and therefore they're you know, kind of restricted. The 586 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: Raiders with Mark Davis, that's always something to keep an 587 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: eye on because you're not quite sure, you know, now 588 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: that you have Tom Brady in there, maybe maybe it's 589 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: a different feel in the building. But see, let's see, 590 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: so you had Browns and you had the Jets. Who 591 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: else the Bears Bears in there? That would concern you? 592 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, with Ben Johnson being hired 593 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 3: from the Allions, it kind of is like a current cleanup. 594 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: But their history is not great. 595 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: No, but I'm going to trust Ben Johnson in this situation. 596 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to look at the Bears differently because of 597 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and maybe Aaron Glenn is a task master 598 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: with the Jets and turns them around a little bit. 599 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, you know, might be on a make or 600 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: break year with that team, which might not be fair 601 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: to him, but usually get you know, three four years. 602 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: But he's got a quarterback situation that is not good. 603 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: Right now? What other team would Carolina be in there? 604 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't trust that ownership there? Yes, yes, Ritzy. 605 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 7: What direction of the Arizona Cardinals going in these days 606 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 7: before they have to post the Steelers' Super Bowl? 607 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 6: Like, what's really going on with the Cardinals? 608 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? We keep waiting for them. We keep Marvin Harrison 609 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: Junior the third and uh, you know Kyler Murray And 610 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: this is the year and a couple of years ago, 611 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: didn't they start out through the first nine games that 612 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: they were really good and then all of a sudden 613 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: it just tailed off. But now I'd put Arizona probably 614 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: under that umbrella. Yeah, probably, all right, let me take 615 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: a break, update our poll results and our play of 616 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 2: the day. 617 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: Right after this, be sure to catch the live edition 618 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern 619 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 620 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: Ap oh My God. 621 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: To play of the day left, This is to play 622 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: on the day. 623 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 11: Check this out, bark up ranks, We're going to find 624 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 11: that back ifee FORGINNYSCS and the Panthers take up for 625 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 11: three lead. What's seven thirty nine ago the third the 626 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 11: Panthers are back in front. Carnivurhegi upstairs. What a pass 627 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 11: from Barkoff and the Panthers once again in front. 628 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: Here in Raleigh. Courtesy of the Panthers Radio Network. The 629 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,479 Speaker 2: Panthers the first team to qualify for the Stanley Cup 630 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: Final in three consecutive seasons since well all the way 631 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: back to the Tampa Bay Lightning who played in the 632 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final nineteen, twenty, twenty twenty one, and twenty 633 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: twenty two. So immediately preceding the Panthers seem would you 634 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: update the poll results from the first forty five minutes? Yeah? 635 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 7: I would Uh right now, we just put up there 636 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 7: one from Marvin. When did the Timberwolves book their flights 637 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 7: to koon pregame, halftime or right after the game ended? 638 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 2: Right now? 639 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 7: Pregame? Unfortunately, mean spirited Lee is winning. I think it'll 640 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 7: balance out a little bit. 641 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: Our Player of the Day brought to you by the 642 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: great folks at tire Rack Rover. Forty years, ti Iraq 643 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: has been helping customers find the right tires for how 644 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: and what and where they drive, ship fast and free 645 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: back by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options 646 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: like mobile tire installation, tire rack dot Com. The Way 647 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: tire buying should be. Dean in Clearwater, Florida, Hi, Dean, 648 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? Hey Dan, good to hear 649 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 2: your voice. 650 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 12: Listen, Yesterday you said Larry Bird could potentially fall out 651 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 12: of the top ten, and I fell off my stool. 652 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 12: I think I'm glad you're retiring because I think you're 653 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 12: losing it. 654 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 4: Bro. 655 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 12: There's no way this dude falls out of the top five. 656 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 12: When when Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Kareem, Magic, Kobe Jalen Rose, 657 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 12: Michael Cooper all say he can never fall at top five, 658 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 12: I'll take their opinion over most. Even Michael Jordan said 659 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 12: that Bird is parallel to me. I can't put them 660 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 12: ahead of me or behind me. And I don't know 661 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 12: if you've just seen Michael Cooper just came out and 662 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 12: said that the former Lakers, Kareem and Magic, they were 663 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 12: all in a room the other day, and it was 664 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 12: hard for them to understand why people are just now 665 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 12: realizing how great Bird was. And when AI in one 666 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 12: hundred years you asked them who's the greatest basketball player ever, 667 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 12: it's going to spit out Larry Bird because he's just 668 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 12: the greatest fundamental ballplayer ever. And Dan, I think you 669 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 12: need to do what Kobe did. Kobe used to say, 670 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 12: why are people thinking Larry's so great? He looks slow, 671 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 12: and he can't jump, and he's white. And he went 672 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 12: on YouTube and after going to Kareem and Magic, he 673 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 12: went on YouTube and watched four hours of Met Larry 674 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 12: Bird and put Larry Bird in his top fight and 675 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 12: said he can never get out. So when you said 676 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 12: he's going to drop out of the top ten, then 677 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 12: make a staff you to go sit on YouTube and 678 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 12: refresh your memory of what this guy did and how 679 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 12: great he was as an all around basketball player. I 680 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 12: respect your opinion because you know a lot about basketball. 681 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 12: But when you said that yesterday, Ibill sell off my chair. 682 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: Dude. So, Dean, how many NBA finals did you go 683 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: to to watch Larry in person? 684 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 12: In person? 685 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? None? Okay, I did so I was there in 686 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, so I at least got to see 687 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: him do these things. That's why same thing with Michael Jordan, 688 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: got to see those things in person. So I pride 689 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: myself in being able to have witnessed everybody except for 690 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: Bill Russell play all the greats. And I bring this 691 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 2: up because we want to put new in and I 692 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: don't know if Larry shouldn't fall out of the top ten. 693 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: What did I say about Larry when I said, let 694 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: me give you a six year window, and Larry is 695 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: going to match up with anybody probably in the history 696 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: of the game. I said, what if we just did 697 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: that all these great players, we look at a six 698 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: year window, then how do you rank these players? And 699 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: maybe the rankings different? Does Steph Curry get in there? 700 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: He's the greatest shooter of all time now and Larry's 701 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 2: not the greatest fundamental player of all time. Okay, Michael 702 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: Jordan as good a fundamental player. Let's be honest here. 703 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 2: Jordan played for Dean Smith. You had to be fundamentally 704 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: So you're not going to get any argument from me 705 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: on Larry's greatness and what he did and when he 706 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: did it on display. Wanted the ball all to that 707 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: I love it, but I don't know if somebody says, 708 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 2: does Tim Duncan belong in there higher than Larry Bird. 709 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: So that's where I think you have to be honest. 710 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 2: We live on memories and we all do. We hold 711 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: on for dear line. That's why nobody's going to say 712 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: Lebron is better than Michael Jordan. Well, his career, the 713 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: totality of his career is better than Michael Jordan's. So 714 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 2: there's always, you know, starting points. But when it comes 715 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: to watching Larry Bird, I got to see a lot 716 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 2: of it. So I respect your passion and your opinion, 717 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: but Larry might fall out at the top ten one day, 718 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: So thanks for that. Oh, I know, and you're entitled 719 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: to your opinion as well. We're kind of agreeing of 720 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: Larry's greatness. Does Joker? If Joker wins another MVP or 721 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 2: wins another MVP in another title, do you have a conversation? 722 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: I mean, Joker's doing things that nobody else has ever 723 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: done in the history of the game. Steph Curry doing 724 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: things that never been done in the history of the game. 725 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 2: You just have to be fair to today's player because 726 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: we all get caught up in our era, our generation, 727 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: and we hold on for dear life. Those are memories. 728 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: I understand all of that. I'm not saying Bird does 729 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: fall out. I think there's a chance that at some 730 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: point he does. I don't think that's, you know, blasphemous 731 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: to say, because I am respecting the accomplishments today's player 732 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,720 Speaker 2: as well. Now, if you said I got my life 733 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 2: on the line, I need somebody to take a shot 734 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: for me. Larry's certainly on the short list there. That's 735 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,720 Speaker 2: for sure game to win. Larry's on the short list there. 736 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pauling, Yeah, I think what you were saying yesterday 737 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 3: you were almost like analyzing like a stock. This is 738 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: how history is going to treat these guys. You weren't 739 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 3: dispatching Larry Bird's career. You're saying, hey, it was ten 740 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: unbelievable years. But the back injury. People may use that 741 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: against him down the road when they say Lebron played 742 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: twenty and Larry played eleven. 743 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 2: But if I can look at Larry's a six year 744 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 2: window there, and I'll put it up against Lebron. In fact, 745 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: I'd take Larry's best six year run over Lebron's. But 746 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: Lebron's going to be, you know, recognized as the second 747 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: greatest player of all time. I understand all of that. 748 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 2: You know, we're already trying to move Bill will Chamberlain 749 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 2: out of the top ten, and we tend to do that. 750 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes you forget about greatness maybe in a different generation, 751 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 2: because we validate, you know, we authenticate Bill Russell winning championships. Well, 752 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: Wilt played at that time an average fifty a game, 753 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 2: So you can't go, well, the competition wasn't any good 754 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: unless you use the argument against Bill Russell to say, yeah, 755 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 2: but you kept all your players and had a lot 756 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: of plumber and electricians in there. So it's just being fair, 757 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 2: that's all. And I apologize for using the how many 758 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: times did you see Larry play in the NBA? 759 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 8: Boy? 760 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,479 Speaker 7: Yeah, you have right for that one, dude, Yeah I did. 761 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: But I was there. 762 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: I was there. I was there. I was there. I 763 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 2: was there in eighty four. Oh boy, all right, one 764 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 2: hour in the books, two more ago. I'm in a 765 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,479 Speaker 2: great mood today instead, Yeah, I'm in a great mood.