1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of I 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. This 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and it's 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: finally time for our very first Edwood movie on Weird 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: House Cinema. Today's selection is perhaps the reigning world champion 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: of the schlock to gone. It is the nineteen seven 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: undead saucer invasion film Plan nine from Outer Space, a 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: movie in which fussy aliens attempt to conquer planet Earth 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: by creating approximately three zombies at a local cemetery in 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I've been wondering how long it would take 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: us to do an Edward movie, and we debated whether 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: we should uh do do this? Do this one or 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Bride of the Monster. They're both fantastic, but I think 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: this might be a sort of emotional episode for me 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: because Plan nine is not only one of the best 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: and most famously bad movies of all time, it also 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: played a very special role in my life. So, Rob, 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you this before, 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: but when my wife Rachel and I were very first 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: hanging out when we were in high school. This was 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: before we were technically dating. I don't know what the 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: term in your high school time and place was. It 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: was going out for us. Before we were going out. 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: One of the first times we ever got together was 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: to watch Plan nine from Outer Space in the basement 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: of my parents house. Oh yeah, so we all we 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: already knew each other, we had some friends in common, 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: but for some reason we decided we needed to see 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: this movie. And I still remember vividly. Uh a bunch 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: of failed attempts to acquire a copy. Like we we 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: went to Blockbuster Video thinking oh, yeah, okay, it's Blockbuster, 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: surely they will have Plan nine from Outer Space and 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: what a shock they did not. This would have been 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: I think around two thousand two, so they could have 35 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: hooked us up with the thirty seven copies of Mr 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Deed's if we wanted, but they did not have any 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Edward movies in stock. And eventually we figured out that 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: one of Rachel's friends had a bootleg VHS tape of it. 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: We we finally got our hands on it, and wow, 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,559 Speaker 1: it was so perfect, like the aliens wearing the costumes 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: with the medieval sigils like you know, Bunny breck and 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Ridge with the ax and uh, the constant switching between 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: night and day, the floppy tombstones, the line delivery, but 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: I'll be in there. Uh, and it was. It was 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: just a magical experience. Uh. I. And now in our house, 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: right next to one of our wedding photos, we have 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: a framed portrait of Tore Johnson and Vampira from Plan nine. Uh. 48 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: That's sweet. And I have to say this is probably 49 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: the perfect movie to watch on a bootleg VHS in 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: a basement somewhere. It's this is a great date movie 51 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: in general. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've watched this 52 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: with my wife before, and it's it's just it is. 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: It is NonStop, it is relentlessly what it is, and 54 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: it's I was having trouble coming up with the perfect 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: adjective for what this film is, because you can say 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: it's cheesy, or it's bad, or it's amateur, or it's 57 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: outsider art. Uh, you know, and it's and it is 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: all those things, and yet it it kind of expands 59 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: beyond easy definition. Oh yeah. And I also just want 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: to point out that this is another nineteen fifty seven 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: sci fi horror movie, which you know, I was trying 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: to think of. I have a feeling about this. It's 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: kind of ineffable. I was trying to find the best 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: way to put it into words, but I think it's 65 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: that I have a sense that like nineteen fifty seven 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: to fifty eight was a two year period that was 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: a renaissance for sci fi monster trash, like just to 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: stick to movies that we've talked about on Weird House, 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: fifty seven was the same year as Attack of the 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Crab Monsters and Not of This Earth. Fifty eight was 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: the Brain Eaters and Fiend without a Face. I feel 72 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: like something happened during this two year period there was 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: a shift in the veltgeist and it gave rise to 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: all these emanations, emanations in the gnostic sense, from a 75 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: kind of primeval spirit of B movie weirdness, and the 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: world has never been the same. We live in the 77 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: culture that was built by the clumsy, brow furrowing dimmi 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: urge that descended from those emanations. It's fifty seven to 79 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: fifty eight, and and it's been monsters ever since. This 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: is the air we breathe. Yeah, I think that's a 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: great point. And uh yeah, thinking about my own history 82 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: with with Edwood and Plan nine Matter of Space, I'm 83 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: reminded that I I think I saw my first clips 84 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: from a number of these movies in two It came 85 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: from Hollywood, which somebody in my family had taped off 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: of HBO onto VHS, and and for some reason I 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: was allowed to watch this over and over again. Um, 88 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: even though you know, it's mostly like a lot of 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: fun monster clips, but also some risk a human are 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: and also some disturbing content from from Hollywood of Yesteryear. 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: But still there's a whole section on there that's that 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: is celebrating Edwood and talking about like how great and 93 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: how fun. You know. So much of this content was 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: so many of these films, and I guess I kind 95 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: of took all that for granted. And it wasn't until 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: I was digging into researching a little bit for this 97 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: picture that I realized that like before, like before the 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: the early eighties, when this came out and some other 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: things were going on with film festivals, uh, like Edwood 100 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: had already drifted into obscurity. Uh. And it was it 101 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: was the memory of these films for that ended up 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: resurrecting his spirit. Oh yeah, the weirdness of Plan nine. 103 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: I get the impression that this was not recognized at 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: the time as anything great or worthwhile, and it was 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: not celebrated, h even in an ironic sense, for a 106 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: long time until like decades after it was made. I 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: think the initial reaction was, well, that was weird. Okay, 108 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: I never see that again. But but but to come 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: back to what you said, like the classic era, you know, 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean they're different. Classic eras in cinema that we 111 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: had that late nineteen fifties era seemed to have produced 112 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: a number of these these ideas, uh, these tropes that 113 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: would continue to resonate throughout our film culture as different 114 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: creators then grew up with those images in their heads 115 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: and then created their own things. I sort of feel 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: like this is the era where like the Corman machine 117 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: is finally humming at full output, like it it has 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: it's going and uh, and other parallel production machines for 119 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: drive in monster movies are sort of at the at 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: their peak output. Yeah. But but but before we get 121 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: too wrapped up in how Plan nine from Outer Space is, 122 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, cranking the gears of history and of our 123 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: personal lives, before we get caught in the wheels of progress, 124 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: we should also describe what this movie is in a 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: literal sense. So I have a few categories I think 126 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: it should fit into. One is that it's a fifties 127 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: flying saucer movie. The plot concerns Aliens who fly around 128 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: in saucers that are described both as saucers and as 129 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: quote cigar shaped. Uh that's mutually exclusive, dude. I don't 130 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: know why you say that in the movie, but that's 131 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: what they say. Um, but their saucers. They come to 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Earth to do something something vaguely hostile. It seems their 133 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: main objectives are to make sure that humans acknowledge their 134 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: existence and to keep humans from finding out about them. 135 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: And we find out more about their missions. But yeah, 136 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: so what is their mission? Well, this entails the second thing. 137 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: It's also a zombie movie. The aliens plan involves resurrecting 138 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the dead from a cemetery and making these revenants wander 139 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: around and scare people. It is also an ed Would movie. Now, 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: more about that when we discuss Edward directly. But this 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: means a film made with an absolutely irresistible blend of 142 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: overwhelming ineptitude and all inspiring self confidence. And it's it's 143 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: a combination I can't really think of in any other filmmaker. 144 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: It's a movie that is so bad it's unbelievable, and 145 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: it yet it doesn't feel like just check cashing hack work. 146 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: It feels like it was made by someone who thought 147 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: this was a brilliant masterpiece and it might even change 148 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, there's an audacity to to Edward movies 149 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, so so we'll get to win into 150 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: that into bed but but yeah, there's nothing quite like 151 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: an Edward film. Also, tying into the cast, which we 152 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: will discuss more in a minute, I think it's important 153 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: to say this is sort of a a bizarro ensemble movie. Like, 154 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: despite the fact that this is a very low budget movie, 155 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: the cast includes a surprising bill of strange but familiar 156 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: faces or what would have been strange but familiar faces 157 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: at the time. You've got Bella Legosi, the legend himself, 158 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: but also Tore Johnson van Hira, the amazing Criswell. It's 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: really kind of unusual when you when you stop to 160 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: appreciate how many sort of names ended up in this thing, 161 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: at least names that would have resonated on television in 162 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: l A at the time. Yeah, and and and beyond 163 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: that to some extent, and and who might not necessarily 164 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: be known for acting but who make a very striking 165 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: screen presence. I mean our Vampira and Tore Johnson actors, 166 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: not really, but I mean when they're on screen, it 167 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: looks great. They They're both individuals who had totally nailed 168 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: what they were doing outside of film and in this 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: movie though, those skill sets are able to to work 170 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: well on film in kind of an acting space, but 171 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I would not say they are acting right. Um. What 172 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: one last thing I want to say is that it's 173 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: in a category of a category that doesn't exist as 174 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: much as it used to, uh, and that is the 175 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: thoroughly technically incompetent film. Maybe we don't appreciate this distinction enough, 176 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: but here's my take. I'd be interested to hear from 177 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: people who actually work in the film industry to maybe 178 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: agree or disagree with this. But my feeling is that 179 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: in decades past, bad movies were packed with way, way 180 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: more technical mistakes than bad movies of today. So you 181 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: have everything from you know, continuity failures between shots, obviously 182 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: phony sets. You might see a crew member who wasn't 183 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 1: supposed to be in the shot standing in the background. 184 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: You know, you see the boom mic decinct audio stuff 185 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: like that. But now the film industry has become much 186 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: more professionalized, and I think there are so many people 187 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: working in the film industry now who know how to 188 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: execute the technical aspects of a film properly. They're good 189 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: at their jobs. There are enough of those people that 190 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: even bad movies today are rarely full of actual technical 191 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: and competence. Even the bad movies of the twenty one 192 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: century are made with a pretty high baseline of technical professionalism. 193 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: And instead now I would say when a movie is 194 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: bad today, I would argue it's almost always bad because 195 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: of the creative elements rather than the technical ones. So, 196 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: for example, in my personal opinion, hands down the most 197 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: common problem for bad movies made this year is going 198 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: to be a bad script, followed by other creative failures, 199 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, failure of like a cinematographer to establish an 200 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: interesting or pleasing visual style. But this will rarely extend 201 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: to like mismatching day night, continuity between shots right right 202 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: or or or one that is also frequently used by 203 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Edwood jarring use of stock footage. It's like not even 204 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: of apparently the same film grain or whatever right right, 205 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: different film grain, different era, sometimes different continent. It looks 206 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: like there's a really good one. In the other movie 207 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: were thing about doing um Bride and the Monster where 208 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: a character like looks at a tree and then we 209 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: cut two grainy stock footage of a snake and then 210 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: she screams and faints. It's really it's wonderful. So, I mean, 211 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: for the most part that's the pitch, but for just 212 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: to throw out an elevator pitch, I'll use one from 213 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: that is from the trailer that we're about to listen to, 214 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: and that is a terrifying revelation of things to come. Uh. 215 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: We cannot overlook the fact that this is this is 216 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: a movie that is not just about something that could happen. 217 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: This is not a speculative work. This is about things 218 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: that that have happened, are happening, or definitely will happen 219 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: in near future. Yeah, all right, well, let's go ahead 220 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: and listen to this trailer in full because on its own, 221 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: like if this were a lost film and all we 222 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: had was the trailer, we would still have a masterpiece 223 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: on our hands. It is safe to state that the 224 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: grandchildren of some of the people in this dinner will 225 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: not be on Earth. They come from the bowels of Hell, 226 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: a transformed race of Walking Dead zombies guided by a 227 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: master plan for complete domination of the Earth. Plan nine 228 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: from Outer Space m H starring the most brightmarished past 229 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: ever Fella Legosi, the seductive Vampira, and poor Johnson as 230 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: the Walking Dead. Turn off your electro gun, stop it dead, 231 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: you get it? Cheery Bullets bounce off their bodies, Rockets, missiles, 232 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: Jets cannot stop their death ships. What earthly power can 233 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: stop this terror? What a glimpse of things to come? 234 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: See this blast of screen suspense, or it could be 235 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: happening right now? Alright, I absolutely love that it is 236 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: safe to state that the grandchildren of some of the 237 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: people in this theater will not be born on Earth. 238 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: Can you prove the trailer wrong? I don't think you can. 239 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: You don't even know who was in that theater. All right, well, 240 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: let's let's get into the people a bit more. Um. 241 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: Of course, we're gonna start at the top. We're gonna 242 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: start with Edwood or as as he is credited on 243 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: the film, Edward D. Wood Jr. He is the director, 244 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: He is the writer, he is the producer, he is 245 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: the film editor, and he also has a cameo in 246 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: the picture. You know, I realized that a lot of 247 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: my thoughts about the life of Edward actually are not 248 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: like researched for accuracy, but a lot of them come 249 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: from the nineties Tim Burton movie ed Wood, which I 250 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 1: think is it's probably my favorite biography movie. It's it's fantastic. 251 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how true it is to the reality 252 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: of the events it depicts, but uh, it's it's incredibly 253 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: fun and it has a standout performance by Martin Landau 254 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: as Bill Leegosi. Yeah. Yeah, ed Wood. Uh also pretty 255 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: pretty crazy because you know, we've talked about how already 256 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: about how Adwood Edward was a Hollywood outsider, and yet 257 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: through Tim Burton's picture, uh, it becomes an Academy Award 258 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: winning property, like Martin Landau's Bella Leghostie role wins an 259 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: Academy Award. Also, Rick Baker's Makeup wins an Academy Award 260 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: for that picture, and so it's kind of like the 261 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Hollywood establishment finally has to enshrine woods legacy, which is 262 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. But okay, putting the movie that movie aside, 263 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you describe what Edwood was? Yeah? Again, 264 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: it's difficult to sum up. Um you know, it's just 265 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: a low budget legend, counterculture icon overconfident, amateur outsider artists. 266 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think about that. I compare him to someone 267 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: like a Howard Finster in my mind, you know, someone 268 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: who who doesn't have the training that that other individuals 269 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: working in the field have, but they have that that 270 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: there's something going on. This is spark that still manages 271 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: to force its way into the medium inspiration in the 272 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: classic sense, like as in literally meaning divine guidance. I 273 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: when I was looking around for some additional biographical information 274 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: on him, one of the mistakes I made was thinking, well, 275 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: I'll look up to see what the oh bits of 276 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: the day said. And that's one of the things about 277 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: his life is that there weren't really any major oh 278 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: bits about him when he died because he had drifted 279 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: into such obscurity. But I was looking at a review 280 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: that Roger Ebert, the late Rogeriebert wrote for Tim Burton's 281 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: ed Wood movie, and he included, like I thought, what 282 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: was a nice summary of who and what Edwood was? Quote, 283 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Edward D. Wood Jr. Must have been the Will Rogers 284 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: of filmmaking. He never directed a shot he didn't like it. 285 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: Takes a special weird genius to be voted the worst 286 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: director of all time, a title that would has earned 287 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: by acclamation. He was so in love with every frame, 288 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: of every scene of every film he shot that he 289 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: was blind to hilarious blenders, stumbling in aptitude, and acting 290 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: so bad that it achieved a kind of grandeur. But 291 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: badness alone would not have been enough to make him 292 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: a legend. It was his love of film sneaking through 293 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: that pushes him over the top. You know, I think 294 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: this is a phrase I recall from Roger eberta I 295 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: don't remember the origin of it, but it was Roger 296 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Ebert talking about some bad movie that he said was 297 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: not just bad, but was awesomely bad. And I think 298 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: that is a good descriptor to apply to the Edwood 299 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: movies I've seen. There. They transcended normal badness. They even 300 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: transcend the normal way that you you appreciate bad movies 301 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: at an ironic level. They become in some genuine sense 302 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: and all inspiring spectacle. It's like, it's, uh, you are 303 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: observing a work of sheer will. It's oh, I guess, uh, 304 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, to to quote the title of another podcast, 305 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: you wonder how did this get made? Like, how was 306 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: this pushed through to completion? Yeah, and it's a it's 307 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: it's a rare enough thing just historically, but it's certainly 308 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: rare now. You don't you don't really find examples of 309 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: this as much as one might like, and I feel 310 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: like we're kind of starved for it at times. There 311 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: have been films that have come out in recent years 312 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: where I think people were expecting awesome badness, and unfortunately 313 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: the cases you end up with something that's just bad 314 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: in the n the lackluster, luke warm since of the 315 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: word Plan nine has such a kind of relentless, ludicrous 316 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: unbelievability while you're watching it. That rob before we started recording, 317 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: we were talking off Mike uh about how when you're 318 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: explaining this movie, you want to like quote the weird dialogue, 319 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: but then you can't really end up doing that because 320 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: you end up wanting to quote the entire script. Like 321 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: every scene is just filled with exchanges that that that 322 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: clang and and sound wrong in the most awesomely weird way, 323 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: and and then it never stops. You think like, oh, 324 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: I gotta make a note of that one, But then 325 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: the next one is exactly like it. Yeah, it is relentless. 326 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: It is stupefying. Uh so. So briefly on the bio 327 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: of of Edwood. Here he lived, he was a film 328 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: enthusiast as a child, he had a Kodak centis special. 329 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: He was an usher at a cinema at one point, 330 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: he served in the Marines. He moved to Hollywood to 331 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: pursue his cinematic dreams. He would become a legend, true enough, 332 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: but like we we said, his his star would rise 333 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: after his death in seventy eight. Um, the end of 334 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: his life was one of obscurity. But then you had 335 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: stuff like eight twos that came from Hollywood come out, 336 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: which again featured in edwood tribute section. You had a 337 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: growing cult following of for films of this nature, including 338 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: for instance, Michael Weldon's Psychatronic Film Guide, which started up 339 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: as a magazine in nineteen seventy nine. You know, the 340 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: year after after his death, documentaries would follow film festivals, 341 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: and then by the time you get ninety four's ed 342 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: Wood the Picture by Tim Burton, like the legacy is assured, 343 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: like it's cemented. And again the Hollywood establishment itself kind 344 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: of has to enshrine Wood's legacy. Towards the end of 345 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: his life, Wood's output descended sharply into erotic and adult territory. 346 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: This would be in the seventies, but he's working the fifties. 347 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: Gave us a string of just numerably weird films, including 348 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: the semi autographical fifty three film Glenn or Glinda and 349 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: which would himself plays the titular lead character Uh. He 350 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: also gave us Bride of the Monster in fifty five, 351 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: The Violent Years and fifty six, The Bride and the 352 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Beast in fifty eight, Nine of the Ghouls and fifty nine, 353 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: and The Sinister Urge in nineteen six. I would say 354 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: he's most remembered I think for for Glenn or Glinda 355 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and the two big Bella leego see Monster movies, which 356 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: were Bride of the Monster and and Plan nine for 357 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Outer Space Bride of the Monster. We may have to 358 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: come back and also do on the show UH in 359 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: the future, because it has more Bella leegosie than Plan 360 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: nine does. In fact, Plan nine has almost no bell 361 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: allegotee at all, and that's one of the real core 362 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: paradoxes of Plan nine. I would say that this movie 363 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: seems in a way to be kind of built around 364 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Bella Llegosie. It might be in modern to use a 365 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: modern expression called a Legosie vehicle. And yet Bella Leegosi 366 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: is almost entire really missing from the movie. He actually 367 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: appears in literally just a couple of shots. Legosi I 368 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: think died before most of the movie was filmed, so 369 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: in most scenes that feature his character, he's played by 370 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: a body double holding a cape over his face. Um, 371 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: And even including the shots with the body double, Legosi's 372 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: character is not really central. He's just one of a 373 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: number of zombies. Yeah. And it's just such a wood 374 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: move right to not let this stand in the way 375 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: of not I not I not only completing the film, 376 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: but also like not reshooting anything they already had. Like 377 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: we already have Bella in in one scene, two scenes, 378 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Why why reshoot any of that. Let's just keep going 379 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: and we'll just have the cape over the face. It 380 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: looks perfect, no reason, no notes, no reason to change anything. 381 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: It does not look perfect at all. The guy that 382 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: got to replace Bella Leghostie kind of looks like Jared Leto. 383 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: He's just like creeping around with slicked back hair and 384 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: the cape over his like he's you know, his faces 385 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: in the crook of his arm with the cape. There 386 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: no explanation of why he's walking like that. Uh. There 387 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: are some scenes where I'm not even sure it looks 388 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: like it was shot for the movie. There there's like 389 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: one of just Bella kind of standing around. It's hard 390 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: to tell because again there's such such a jarring difference 391 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: between one scene in the next, and and yeah, at 392 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: times it looks like like he's just standing there. So yeah, 393 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: I agree, it's it's a weird paradox of plan nine 394 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: and almost That's one of the reasons I'm not even 395 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna go into Bella Llegosi uh too much here because 396 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: this is it's not really a Bella Llegosie film because 397 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: he's in it so briefly. It's still an important part 398 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: of his legacy. It's his final film, but um, but 399 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: still here here the basics Bella Legosi in this place, 400 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: the old Man slashed, the dead man slash the ghoul Man. 401 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: Like several characters in this they're called different things. He 402 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: lived eighteen eighty two through nineteen fifty six, and uh, yeah, 403 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: he's a titan of classic horror. At the star of 404 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: Dracula Befo is the black Cat and um, yeah, we'll 405 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: have to come back to him in a in another 406 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: episode of Weird House Cinema when we can really talk 407 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: about Bella Leghostie as a performer more because again barely 408 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: performs in this at always barely in this movie. But 409 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: he was one of the greats. I love Bella, yeah, 410 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: but but you know who performs in this movie without acting? 411 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: I would say it performs almost entirely with this uh, 412 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: with this kind of uh statue like Grimace is toward Johnson, 413 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: Uh toward Johnson is so good in this playing he 414 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: has basically a dual role here. He gets to play 415 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: a human by the name of Inspector Clay, a policeman. 416 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: Uh he gets so he gets kind of like a 417 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: straight acting part. But then he also plays the main 418 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: undead character, who is sometimes called the Big One or 419 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: sometimes called the Giant um and it's it's a it's 420 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: a great physical performance. So towards Johnson lived and apparently 421 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: there's some disagree once on exactly when he was born, 422 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: either nineteen o two or nineteen oh three. Seems this 423 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: seemed to be the prime candidates here. Died in seventy one. 424 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: He was born Carl Eric tor Johansson and uh yeah 425 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: is a is a Swedish born professional wrestler, slash strongman, 426 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: slash actor um and uh quite an interesting character he was. 427 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: He was known in professional wrestling circles of the day 428 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: as Super Swedish Angel and uh and he was Swedish. 429 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: But the reason he was an angel, it wasn't angel, 430 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: but the angel thing is interesting. So he's Super Swedish 431 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: Angel because there was already a Swedish Angel wrestling. So 432 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: you can't have two Swedish angels. You gotta mix it up. 433 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to be like son of the Swedish Angel 434 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: or Swedish Angel too or Super Swedish Angel. There you go. 435 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: And then that's a gimmick. Um, but this whole angel thing, 436 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: but in both cases they're tweaking a gimmick that was 437 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: established by the French angel Maurice Tillott, who was more 438 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: three and died in nineteen fifty four, who was um 439 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: like a big, Brutish strong man with a very interesting look, 440 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: very much you know, a giant uh wrestler of the 441 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: day WHOA yeah, I found an image comparing him to 442 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: Shrek Um, yeah, I've heard that that Shrek, the character 443 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: Shrek was actually patterned after um, after Maurice Tillott. So 444 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Now it's hard to find footage of Tour 445 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: Johnson wrestling, or at least it was hard for me 446 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: to find any, but we did find some British footage 447 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: of Tour wrestling some guy. Um. I'll have to include 448 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: a link for this on the blog post for this 449 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: episode at Samuta music dot com. But it's it's it's weird. 450 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean, on one hand, it's not Monster Tour. 451 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: I mean, is a big guy, and you get to 452 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: see him moving around, applying headlocks and doing some matt wrestling, 453 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: but he's not like a he's not in monster mode. 454 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: He's not toward Johnson wrestling the way a modern wrestling 455 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: fan might expect towards Johnson to wrestle. Yeah. So is 456 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: this the clip you shared with me that has the 457 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: British narrator on it? Oh? Yeah, just totally trashing the 458 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: whole enterprise. Oh so yeah, so the narrator is like, 459 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: well this professional wrestling, you know, it isn't very serious, 460 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: is it? That is somewhat funny? Yeah, it just really 461 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: rips into it, and then there's all this other weird stuff, 462 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: like the ref is either shirtless at one point or 463 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: the ref has like a very like small undershirt on. 464 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: It was weird. I'm just used to seeing a reff 465 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: in ref's clothing. The ref can't be shirtless. That's weird, right, Well, 466 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's aren't there some cases and like the I 467 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: don't know whatever it's called, the w W or wherever where, 468 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: Like a heel will attack the reff. Maybe the reff 469 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: has to be dressed like a wrestler in case the 470 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: he'll attacks. I don't know, uh, And I don't know 471 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: a lot about this this period of of pro wrestling, though, 472 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: though I have read that it is. It is rare 473 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: to have footage from some of these these earlier eras 474 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: because for one thing, a lot of it wasn't taped, 475 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: and then if it was recorded, those recordings weren't necessarily preserved. 476 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, you're essentially taped over, uh, and they 477 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: would be lost to history. According to cage match dot Com, 478 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Toward Johnson's earliest match was y three and his last 479 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: match was ninety five. The records on this website, I 480 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: don't think are always complete, especially when dealing with older 481 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: stuff like this. But still it seems like a respectable 482 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: era in which to have have applied his trade. And 483 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: he was indeed a big boy build at six three 484 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: forty pounds, he he is massive, and you can see 485 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: why people wanted to put him in monster movies. This 486 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: is not the only one he's uh, He's in a 487 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: number one. Another one that sticks in my mind is 488 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: the Beast of Yucca Flats, where Toward Johnson plays I 489 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: think he uh so, that is, if I'm not wrong, 490 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: a Coleman Francis movie, the same guy who made Red Zone, Cuba, 491 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: which was famously parodied on Mystery Science Theater. Beast of 492 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: Yucca Flats I mainly remember for two things, having a 493 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: really just over the top narrator who you know, every 494 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: time you'd see a character, he would just say something like, 495 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, John Johnson, caught in the wheels of progress. Uh. 496 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: In fact, it's almost kind of similar to Criswell's narration 497 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: in Plan nine. We'll get to Criswell in a second. 498 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: But um, the other thing I remember about Beast of 499 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Bucca Flats is they barely put tour in any makeup 500 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: to make him the Monster. He plays like a Soviet 501 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: scientist who defects to the United States, walks onto a 502 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: nuclear testing range. They blow up a bomb and that 503 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: turns him into a radioactive monster. But they just sort 504 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: of like put some oatmeal on his face, I think, 505 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: and then he's otherwise he's just tour. Yeah, I mean 506 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: tour was a walking special effect. I mean the physicality, 507 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: the grimace, that was all you needed. So yeah, but 508 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: Basta Jucca flats. That's that's a fun one. I think MST. 509 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Three K did that one as well. Um, he was 510 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: in such films as nineteen fifties Appen and Costello in 511 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: The Foreign Legion, Bob Hopes, the Lemon Dropped Kid in 512 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: fifty one ed Woods, Bride of the Monster, and Night 513 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: of the Ghouls. But in terms of earlier in his career, uh, 514 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: he he started off doing uncredited strongman type bit parts 515 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: in films back to the mid nineteen thirties, and by 516 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: forty nine he was showing up still uncredited in films 517 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: like Ernest b Showed Sacks Mighty Joe Young. Uh. There's 518 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: a scene in that movie where a number of strong 519 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: men are are are playing tug of war with the 520 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: giant ape and uh, and it's it's kind it's not 521 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: a kind of interesting. I didn't work on I being 522 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: all of these guys. But one of them was the 523 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: famous Italian boxer turned professional wrestler Primo Carnera, who is 524 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: a really big guy six six and was you know, 525 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: very much a legendary figure in boxing of that day. Oh, 526 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't know him. Is is he the last guy 527 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: on the tug on the tub rope here? Yeah? I 528 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: found the still he's the last guy. So he's the 529 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: most enormous and he's like this big, you know, handsome, 530 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: well built Italian gentleman. And I'm not sure exactly. I 531 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: think I think I've pinpointed the individual who's Tore Johnson 532 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: in this, and I think toward Johnson has hair. I 533 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: read somewhere that tor actually had like a full head 534 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: of blonde hair, but he kept it shaved because that 535 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: was the look, you know, that was the look he 536 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: was going for. I can see that. I think he's 537 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: the first guy in the picture you have for me here. 538 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: But this other guy looks like he would definitely be 539 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: cast as Goliath in a bunch of nineteen fifties Italian 540 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: Bible movies. I think he did some sword and sandals work. 541 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: I didn't go go too far into the primo filmography, 542 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: but he was. He was a celebrity of the day 543 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: and uh and may have had some mob ties apparently, 544 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: but but yeah, he was. He was in a number 545 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: of motion pictures himself. But going back to the picture 546 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: on your shelf, Joe, we we we can't just talk 547 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: about Tore Johnson here. We also have to talk about Vampira. 548 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: So Vampira has no lines in this movie, and yet 549 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: I think she is the best actor in it. She 550 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: she well, maybe a tie between her and Tour they 551 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: both need uh. The Tour has lines before he gets killed. 552 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Both of them spend a number of shots just sort 553 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: of menacing the camera, and they're great in it. Vampira 554 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: is wonderful as like making the creepy face and just 555 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: like flexing her nails. Yes, yes, she has the basically 556 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: has this um Morticia Adams kind of look going on 557 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: what essentially has become an iconic Gothic female vamp look. Right, 558 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: she has the long nails and then she also has 559 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: this um very painful looking corset on that makes her, 560 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, have this kind of almost skeletal appearance. You know, 561 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: she's very made up and she's she's hamming it up 562 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: big time as well. Uh you know, she's really twisting 563 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: her face in a way that she's coming off like 564 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: like the undead. Now something I've always wondered. I don't 565 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: know if you know the answer to this. Vampire. We 566 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: we've recently on the show been talking about these horror 567 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: movie hosts, the people who would you know, host a 568 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: TV program where they would show a horror movie and 569 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: then they would interrupt it to do commercial breaks and 570 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: make jokes about the movie. That was Vampira's gig way 571 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 1: back in the fifties. And so I wonder was she 572 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: the first one or were there other people who did 573 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: this before her. Everything I've read seems to indicate that 574 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: she was the first. She's the matriarch of the entire enterprise. 575 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else was doing it before her. 576 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: Uh So it's as an interesting story. So Vampire is 577 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: the persona of Malia Nermi, who lived ninety two through 578 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. And it didn't even have a 579 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: long run. It only ran fifty four throughft but but 580 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: it resonated with with folks, especially apparently in the in 581 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: the l A area. I believe that's where it was 582 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: primarily airing. That's where it was based out of. And 583 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: she also did appearances on some other shows, uh, popping 584 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: up you know, and pretty much always in the persona 585 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: of Empira. So yeah, she was this goffy queen, super narrow, corseted, waste, 586 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: long fingernails, often with a cocktail and some sort of 587 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: in the set, you know, behind her would be something 588 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: atmospheric and goffy, maybe a little um dry ice smoke 589 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: going on, you know. Uh So for the most part, yeah, 590 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: she's always showing up in her persona of Empire. But 591 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: she also pops up as a hag and a sorceress 592 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: in Burt I. Gordon's nineteen sixty two fantasy film The 593 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: Magic Sword, which started Basil Rathbone, Estelle Wynnwood, and Gary Lockwood. 594 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: That is, at least for me, a much below of 595 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: MST three K episode as well. I never seen it. 596 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh it's good. Um Yeah, Croty Robot falls in love 597 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: with Estelle Winwood and has a whole song about how 598 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: much he loves this stell and then the movie itself 599 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun. It's you know, it's Sword 600 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: and Sorcery from Birdeye Gordon. Oh, I bet the effects 601 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: are just perfect. Um. But you know, so, Vampiro was 602 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: not the only l A Area TV celebrity to appear 603 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: in Plan nine from Outer Space. The other one, the 604 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: other main one, is Chriswell, who planed nine definitely would 605 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: not be the same without Chriswell. Chriswell is the narrator 606 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: in this movie. Criswell was the name of Jared Charles 607 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: Criswell King, also known as the Amazing Chriswell, who was 608 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: an eccentric celebrity psychic who is probably best known for 609 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: making predictions about the future on late night TV shows 610 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties. Yeah, yeah, he was. He 611 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: was a psychic for Maywell and was a friend of 612 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: may West's and at one point he was also Vampire's roommate. 613 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: So you do get the sense that like it was 614 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: like a network of of l A weirdos, really, and 615 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: I think that's something that that Tim Burton captured rather 616 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: well in his film, the idea that like these were 617 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: these were the outsiders and they were brought together, uh 618 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: in this strange enterprise. So when we were getting ready 619 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: to do this episode, I got really into doing, uh 620 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: to to reading about the predictions made by Chris Well. 621 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: So that was what he was famous for. He'd come 622 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: on TV and say, you know, I'm a psychic, so 623 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: I predict that. Allegedly, he correctly predicted that John F. 624 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: Kennedy would not run for re election because of some 625 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: tragic event in November nineteen sixty three. Uh, that is 626 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: at least what I've seen claimed on his website. I 627 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if that's actually what he said, 628 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: but that's what it says. That's what it claims retroactively. 629 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: But he made all kinds of other predictions that definitely 630 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: did not come true. So there's a there's a website 631 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: called Criswell predicts dot com where you can read a 632 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: bunch of these exerpted from his books, or at least 633 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: from one book of his. I don't even know where 634 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: to start with these. There there are a lot of 635 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: predictions about like Earth being destroyed. So to read one 636 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: passage quote, can our whirling, turning, churning Earth last out 637 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: the night? Our geologists tell us that the danger to 638 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: Mother Earth lies not in the uncharted vast of outer space, 639 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: but from inner Earth. Here is what will more than 640 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: likely happen. According to geologists, small tidal waves will play 641 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: havoc for no reason at all. The surface of the 642 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: Earth will bulge ever so slightly, and highways will slightly buckle. 643 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: Foundations will tip, and floors will slant. When you pour 644 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee or a glass of water, the 645 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: rim will not level. Telephone, coin boxes and vending machines 646 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: will refuse to work. Delicate instruments will go haywire elevators 647 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: will go out of whack, jukeboxes will be mute, radio 648 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: and TV will fail. All electric power, gas and water 649 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: service will cease. And then will come the time when 650 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: garbage cans roll across the street for no apparent reason. 651 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: Then and only then will you realize the advanced corrosion 652 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: spelling the end of our earth. The seas will fill 653 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: up quickly with a gooey mass of inner earth rubble. 654 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: Our streets and city lots, farms and deserts will bubble 655 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: up like a festered oil and marking the complete collapse. 656 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: Has this happened before, more than likely, and it will 657 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: happen again in your incredible future. Uh He also predicted 658 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: the assassination of Fidel Castro in nineteen seventy. Uh. He 659 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: predicted that there will be an outbreak of men becoming 660 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: cannibals in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in uh December nineteen eighty and 661 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: he predicts the world will end on August eighteenth nine 662 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: in a sequence of events including a jet black rain bow, 663 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 1: a huge snake in circling the world, and feeding upon 664 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: the oxygen which we need to exist. Um. Well, oh wait, 665 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: actually sorry, I apologize. The huge snake in circling the 666 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: world is a metaphor he's using. Okay, al right, the 667 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: black a metaphor for the black rainbow that's caused by 668 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: a mysterious force. So it's a black rainbow, but it's 669 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: like a snake eating all of our oxygen. But the 670 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: black rainbow is not a metaphor, it's an actual black rainbow. 671 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: I think so. Uh. Also, several of his predictions are 672 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: about some kind of mass sexual behavior phenomenon, such as 673 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: one he predicts where clouds of afrodisacs substances will take 674 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: over the country in the year's nineteen eighty nine, causing 675 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: people to marry cats and stuff. Okay, well, this reminds 676 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: me one of the things I read about Chris Well 677 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: is that he worked with Edward to figure out exactly 678 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: what he was gonna say on this film because there 679 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: were certain words that Chris Well could not really get 680 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: out all that easily kind of a speech impediment kind 681 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: of a situation, and so they kind of like figured 682 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: out how to like figured out what he could say, 683 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 1: so you know, work it to his his favor here. 684 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: Uh And ultimately I feel like with Tore Johnson with 685 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: a Vampiro, with Chris Well, like these are all examples 686 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: of someone who they'd already figured out their gimmick outside 687 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: of film, and then they're brought into the film world 688 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: and they're just they're continuing to do their thing on 689 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 1: their terms, and that's why they're they're probably the most 690 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: impressive figures in this picture. Yeah, Uh, there is, there's. 691 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: Tour doesn't really do any wrestling in the movie, except 692 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: there's one moment where he gets a really nice wrestling 693 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: slap down on a cop. He like smacks him on 694 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: the shoulders, you know the part I'm talking about. Yeah, Yeah, 695 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: he does kind of it almost looks like a like 696 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: a double chop, Yeah, situation, almost like a Mongolian chop. 697 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: Or something. But uh, but but the other individual just 698 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: completely collapses if it just instantaneously broke all of the 699 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: bones in their body. All right, Well, onto the rest 700 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: of the cast. Some of these are humans, some of 701 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: these are aliens or celestials, but the first is definitely 702 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: a human man. This is the character Jeff Trent, played 703 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: by Gregory Walcott, who lived through two thousand and fifteen. 704 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: He has our square jaws six four punch first hero. 705 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: This is the lug hero of this monster movie. Yeah, 706 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: and it's interesting because he's also He was also more 707 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: of an established actor than many of the folks in 708 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 1: Plan nine, which isn't saying much obviously, but he'd already 709 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: been in a string of movies and TV shows at 710 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: this point. He mainly went on to do a lot 711 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: of TV after this, but also popped back up on 712 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: the big screen in a trio of Clint Eastwood movies 713 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, The Eiger Sanction, 714 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: which I remember is being a pretty fun mountain climbing 715 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: thriller every which way, but Lose, which which some would 716 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: say is a Grade eight movie, and then N's House 717 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: to the second Story. He even has a cameo in 718 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,840 Speaker 1: in in Burton's Edward movie, plays like a potential backer 719 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: for one of the pictures. I don't want to be 720 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: too unkind, but Gregory Walcott this is no John Agar. 721 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you've, you know, in fifties sci fi movies, 722 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: You've got your lugs and then you've got your lugs, 723 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: and Walcott is the latter. The best comparison I could 724 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: think of. I don't think I've ever put this together before, 725 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: but on this viewing, I realized that this is what 726 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: you get if you made an alien invasion movie where 727 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: the dashing hero was Putty from Seinfeld. Yeah, I know 728 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: what you mean. His voice. He's got a deep voice, 729 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: but it's almost a little too deep, like he's almost 730 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: leaning into lurch territory. Uh. And again he's he's he's 731 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: already six four, Like he's a very tall guy. I mean, 732 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: we're getting I guess he's taller than than tour Really 733 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: at this point, he's getting up in there into into 734 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: primo territory. And that's that's awfully tall for your for 735 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: your heroes. You're how to pull some apple boxes on 736 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: stat at this point. Yeah, So, actually, you know what 737 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: I think to go even better. I would say he's 738 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: a combination of Putty from Seinfeld and Jack Palance. Oh 739 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: that's good, yeah, yeah, but but without without the the uh, 740 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: the overpowering charisma of either. Oh of course, I didn't 741 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: mean he has the charisma of Jack Palance. He does 742 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: not have that sneer. No, he's He's actually quite appropriate 743 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: though for the role he plays, which is he he 744 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: seems to be playing a man who's supposed to represent 745 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: the stupidity of Earthlings, because the Aliens are like, you know, 746 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: you're going to destroy yourselves by creating weapons that will 747 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: annihilate the entire universe, And he's like, but wouldn't these 748 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: weapons make us stronger? Uh? And he also, I hope 749 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: you'll notice in the later scenes where the aliens are 750 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: calling Earthling stupid, he's the only Earthling who gets offended, 751 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: and I think that tells us something. Alright. So he 752 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: plays Jeff Trent, human man. But then we also have 753 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: the actor Paula Trent, a human woman. Uh. This is 754 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: his wife played by Mona McKinnon, who lived through Tennessee 755 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,720 Speaker 1: born actor who acted in just a handful of movies 756 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: during the nineteen fifties, including Nisa of the Lost Women, 757 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: Jail Bait, Teenage Thunder, and Night of the Ghoules. She 758 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: has some line deliveries in this movie that will leave 759 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: you reeling. Yes, I mean it's you can't blame her 760 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: too much because she's she's using the lines that were 761 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: given to her by ed Wood, but oh, it's it's 762 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: it's beautiful to be held. There's a scene where Jeff 763 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: Trent is, you know, her husband, He's going off to 764 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: fly an airplane and she's like, I wish you'd go 765 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: stay at your mother's house because of all these zombies 766 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: that have been wandering around. And she's like, oh, don't 767 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: worry about things, and he's like, okay, well be careful. 768 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: And then the line she says is, I'm afraid I'm 769 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: getting wrong. I think it's something almost exactly like this. 770 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: The flying saucers are up there, the cemeteries out there, 771 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: but I'll be in there. Yes, Oh my god, Like really, 772 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: she did a great job with what she was given there, 773 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: like what are you? How are you supposed to deliver that? 774 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: And and then there there's so much other weird stuff 775 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: that she's given, Like there's this whole bit where she's 776 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: talking about how with um with lug head away with 777 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: with Jeff away that she's got a pillow that she's 778 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna hold at night, and he's acting a little jealous 779 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: of the pillow, and there's like some at least mild 780 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: pillow eroticism wrapped up in the whole scene, and it's 781 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: just so weird, alright. So so that's that's McKinnon playing Paula, 782 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: a human woman. But our next character is Aros, a 783 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: celestial an alien, which, of course, especially in the film 784 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: like this just looks like a human being accept in 785 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,919 Speaker 1: a funny costume. And this character is played by all 786 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: the brilliant Dudley man Love who live through a California 787 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: radio announcer with a voice of just solid gold and 788 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: also sometimes actor exact opposite end of the spectrum. So 789 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: whereas with Jeff and Paula, both of them have these 790 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 1: line deliveries that just clang and clunk and like roll 791 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 1: tumble down the stairs, this guy says every single line, 792 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: no matter how banal, with like like he's giving a 793 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: sort of political announcement, yeah, or the Hindenberg is crashing, 794 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: but he's just he's that that that's the level of 795 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: his Delivery. Yeah, he was not an actor, to be fair, 796 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 1: sometimes an actor, but this was his first picture. He 797 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: went on to act in nineteen sixty two is the 798 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: Creation of the Humanoids. And he had some roles, uh 799 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: that would pop up here and there on TV shows 800 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: like even Alfred Hitchcock Presents and Dragnet. But this, uh, 801 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: this is his memorable performance. He's just he's a light 802 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: anytime he's on screen, but he's usually not alone on screen. 803 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: There there are two aliens who pilot the main flying 804 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: saucer in the movie, and the other one is Tanna, 805 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: played by Joanna Lee. I lived one through two thousand 806 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: and three, and as an actor, she was mostly active 807 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, including a role in The Brain 808 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: Eaters from fifty eight, but she more extensively had an 809 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: impact as a producer, a writer, and a director. She 810 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: wrote for a slew of TV comedies, including, just to 811 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: name a few of them, The Jetsons, My Three Sons, 812 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: Johnny Quest, Bewitched, The flint Stones, Gilligan's Island, The Brady Bunch, 813 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: The Waltons, and then later on Dynasty. Uh So, like 814 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: that alone is pretty impressive, but she also produced and 815 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: directed episodes of CBS School Break Special and ABC After 816 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: School Specials. So seems to seem to me like a 817 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: pretty solid career. Yeah, yeah, broke mainstream YEP. Now, before 818 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: we get to the next celestial, we want to get 819 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: back into the human world for a second, and mentioned 820 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: that we have this patrolman. Patrolman Kelton played by Paul Marco. 821 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: Paul Marco lived through two thousand and six. He was 822 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 1: a three time would actor. He also appears in Bride 823 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 1: of the Monster and Night of the Ghoules classic Bumbling 824 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: Cop performance. I was trying to find where to insert 825 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: this in our outline, and I feel like maybe the 826 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: best places here. So I came across a record that 827 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: I just have to get a copy of. It is 828 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: let's see what is it called. It came out in 829 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: nineteen five or ninety six, I think, and it's called 830 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: Uncle Dale presents Paul Marco as Kelton the Cop and 831 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: Chris Well Uh, and they're performing two different songs. So 832 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: it's like a single record with a one song on 833 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 1: each side, and one is performed by Paul Marco singing 834 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: a song called Home on the Strange, which is like 835 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: a sort of monologue song about a bunch of horror 836 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: stuff happening. And then the other side is Chris Well 837 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: doing a song that I have to say Chris Well 838 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: sounds like he's real phoning it in. It's called someone 839 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: Walked Over My Grave and it's just piano playing and 840 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 1: he's going sub one while walked over my Grave. I 841 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: think I've heard this in a weird mix at some 842 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: point as well. But the Paul Marco song is is better. 843 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's worth a listen. You should look 844 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: it up Home on the Strange. Alright, Well, I'll make 845 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 1: sure that I did listen to Someone Walk Over My Grave, 846 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 1: but I'll listen to Home on the Strange as well, 847 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: and I'll put both of these on the page for 848 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: this episode at Samuda music dot Com. All right, now, 849 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: back into the celestial realm. We have the Ruler a 850 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: celestial played by John Breckenridge, who lived fourteen through a 851 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,919 Speaker 1: very fun screen presence in this film, a very very 852 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: sassy performance. Um, but this is a guy who's just 853 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: was a complete non actor making a one time appearance 854 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: in film. He just happened to be a house guest 855 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: of Paul Marco at the time. He's well he's got 856 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: wonderful screen presence. Yeah, he does, because he he has 857 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: he has, he has his performance, his his his performances 858 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: such that I feel like some of his lines are 859 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: legitimately creepy, like he's the he's the the actor who 860 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: gets to deliver the line. Plan nine deals with the 861 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: resurrection of the dead and so forth. So it's a 862 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: it's a fun, fun little role. But but yeah, he's 863 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: not an actor at all. And just kind of I 864 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: guess convinced UH to show up and do this. He 865 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: was French born, the great great great grandson of U. S. 866 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: Attorney General John Breckenridge, born into a wealthy family, and 867 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 1: also the great grandson of Wells Fargo Bank founder Lloyd Tavis, 868 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: heir to the dynasty. All Right, and finally, I want 869 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,479 Speaker 1: to just I want to have a note here about 870 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: the music though, because as with Tarantula, we're knee deep 871 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: in fifty stock music here. But I will say, in 872 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 1: a movie that is so well known for it's an aptitude, uh, 873 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: and it's in its amateur style and the clunkiness of 874 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: pieces coming together, this is a film in which we 875 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: pieces of music from multiple sources compiled by one Gordon Zaler, 876 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: and I feel like some of these are just really 877 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 1: great pieces of music. You know, they're that classic kind 878 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: of horns, blaring monsters, attacking music from the from the day. 879 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,280 Speaker 1: And when you're watching the film, you may be noticing 880 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: all these other things that don't feel right and are 881 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: coming off weird and amateurish, but the music isn't one 882 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: of them. The music sounds really solid. So I have 883 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 1: to give Gordon credit for for bringing in these pieces, 884 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: assembling them in such a way that they're able to 885 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: back the film up and make you and you may 886 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 1: be second guessing everything else, but you're not really second 887 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: guessing the music for the most part. Yeah, I cannot 888 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: hear those horns without thinking of of Tore Johnson's gaping mouth, 889 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: like they're the sounds are coming out of his mouth. Now. 890 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: I think we face a different kind of challenge when 891 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: breaking down the plot of this movie than we normally do, 892 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: which is that there is way too much of a 893 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: temptation to minutely describe and quote every single scene, which 894 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: we're going to try not to do. But this movie, 895 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 1: like the weirdness and the double take inducing stuff that's happening, 896 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: is just NonStop yeah, it is. It is relentless this film, 897 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: and you definitely should see it. It's one of these. 898 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: It's it's rare to find anyone who is not amused 899 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: by it. Uh, this is this is one that I 900 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: would I would recommend to everyone out there, and it's 901 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: one that that that holds up to repeat viewing. I've 902 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 1: seen this a few different times. I've I've seen I 903 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 1: think I saw riff tracks presentation of it many many 904 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 1: years ago, and and that's fine, or riff tracks can 905 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: it can be a lot of fun. But this is 906 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: a film that doesn't even need the riffing like it is. 907 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: It It's energy is such that that you will do 908 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: the riffing. You know that the riffing occurs in your 909 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: own head. It's brilliant. But one thing we do have 910 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: to talk about is the introduction, because the movie begins. 911 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: This is a fictional movie that begets with a Criswell 912 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: predicts segment like the amazing Criswell did on TV. And 913 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: uh he so it. You know, the lights come up 914 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: on Criswell and he goes into a monologue that is 915 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: so indescribably weird, like the rambling, nonsensical nature of it 916 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: actually reminds me of you know, when you're in high 917 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 1: school and people have to do class presentations and sometimes 918 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: there's a kid in the class who hasn't done any 919 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: of the homework or any preparation, but they're also kind 920 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 1: of good at talking, and they just start saying words. Yeah, yeah, 921 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: I think that's that's totally fair. And really it seems 922 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: like it would line up well with with Chris with 923 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: with with Criswell's career here where he's essentially saying nothing, 924 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: but the delivery is good enough that it sounds profound. 925 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: I can't, I can't do the Criswell voice. It is 926 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: famously the adjective I think is stentorian. You know, it's greetings, 927 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: my friend. Uh, And so he begins by saying, greetings, 928 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,920 Speaker 1: my friend. We are all interested in the future, for 929 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: that is where you and I are going to spend 930 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. And remember, my friend, future 931 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: events such as these will affect you in the future. 932 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 1: You with it so far, okay, future events will affect 933 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: even you in the future. Um. You are interested in 934 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: the unknown, the mysterious, the unexplainable. That is why you 935 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: are here. And now, for the first time, we are 936 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: bringing you the full story of what happened on that 937 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence based 938 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 1: only on the secret testimony of the miserable souls who 939 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: survived this terrifying ordeal, the incidents, the places. My friend, 940 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 1: we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us 941 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,760 Speaker 1: punish the guilty, let us reward the innocent. My friend, 942 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: can your heart stand the shocking facts about Grave Robbers 943 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: from Outer Space? I absolutely love it, and it's it's 944 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 1: so ridiculous, and yet at the same time, one thing 945 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking about is that if you compare this 946 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 1: opening narration to the John Leriquette opening narration on the 947 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, they have a lot that lines 948 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 1: up with each other, like they're both presented uh to 949 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: varying degrees of believability um as a statement of that 950 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: what you were about to see is real, this really happened, 951 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: this is really important. And then both examples say the 952 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: name of the picture at the very end, uh the 953 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And even though Plan nine from Outer 954 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: Space was the final title for this picture, Grave Robbers 955 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: from Outer Space was was like an alternate title or 956 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: working title or something to that effect. Yeah, I don't 957 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: know if this is historically true, but in the movie Edwood, 958 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: they explained the reason for the change of name was 959 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: that the film was at least partially financed by a 960 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: Baptist church in the Los Angeles area, and they found 961 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: the idea of grave robbing sacrilegious. Uh, it should be 962 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: noted graves aren't really robbed. I mean they're self robbing 963 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: by courses. So it's but but really nitpicking at this point, 964 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 1: there's so many other glaring errors. Well no, wait, actually 965 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: to that point, there is an absolutely unbelievable scene that 966 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: goes on for minutes of cops talking about standing over 967 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: a grave, of talking about whether or not they can 968 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: go down into the grave to look at it. Right. 969 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: It goes on forever, and they're they're talking about do 970 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 1: we have jurisdiction to go in there? But also it's 971 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: like can we physically do it? Can all in here? 972 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 1: And then one guy goes in and he's like, I 973 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 1: can't read anything. It's like you're in an open grave 974 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: and I think it's supposed to be night, and so 975 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: they're like, well, we better get him a flashlight. And 976 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 1: we mentioned that we have DeMarco playing a bumbling cop, 977 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 1: but like all the cops are bumbling, and they're so 978 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: blum bumbling, Like this seems to be a picture in 979 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 1: which the only understanding of law enforcement was based entirely 980 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: on Laurel and Hardy movies. It's it's incredible, but I mean, 981 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: there's so many levels of the Criswell monologue. So yes, 982 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: it is like the Texas Chainsaw. It's like insisting this 983 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: is real even though the events don't don't even have 984 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: internal consistency, but also saying, what what is the relationship 985 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 1: to time here? It seems to establish that that causality 986 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: is still in effect. Future events will only affect you 987 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: in the future, which I guess is good, Like it's 988 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: good to know there are some rules still in place 989 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: here for this motion picture. But he's also saying that 990 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: the events he's talking about are are happening in the future, 991 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: but also have already happened. Okay, well yeah, now that 992 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: just twists me all up. Okay, So we go from 993 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: Criswell to Boom Thundercrack credits etchings on a tombstone. You 994 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: see tour Johnson Just a little note. I remember thinking 995 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: even back the first time I saw it, Wardrobe on. 996 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: This movie is by someone named Dick Cheney. I think 997 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: it's not the same one. I missed that. But then 998 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: so the credits finish, and then one of the funniest 999 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: things is that it cuts to a funeral and then 1000 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: Criswell is still going. You think you're done with him, 1001 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: but he just comes back in. You're watching people in 1002 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: a graveyard, and he's all of us on earth know 1003 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: that there is a time to live and a time 1004 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: to die. And uh, we see Bella Lego, see the 1005 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: real Bella Lego. See in this sense, he's crying into 1006 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: a handkerchief at a grave side and some guys reading 1007 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: a Bible and there are two grave diggers nearby who 1008 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: look like they belong in a commercial for baked beans, 1009 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 1: and uh. And the Criswell monologue just goes and goes 1010 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: and goes. You know, he's talking about like the nature 1011 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: of death. He says, when death the proud brother comes 1012 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: suddenly without warning. Um, and he says, oh. But he 1013 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: also gets very poetic. He's talking about like the sundown. 1014 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,720 Speaker 1: You remember, the sundown, last sundown of the day, and 1015 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: yet also the sundown of the old man's heart. And 1016 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: you're just like you can just a mad j Edwood 1017 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: writing this and or Cruswell riding with him, and they're 1018 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, this is so good. It's so good. 1019 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: So here's where things begin. Bella Lego sees at a 1020 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: funeral for his wife. Uh, it doesn't show us this, 1021 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: but we find out later his his wife was Vampira, 1022 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: and uh, then the grave diggers start tossing dirt on 1023 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: the coffin, and then we cut to an airplane, and 1024 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,439 Speaker 1: then we cut inside the airplane and wow, wow this set. Yeah, 1025 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: it's it's a ludicrous set. Um really just so so 1026 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: obviously a set, like like Muppet Show level of set. 1027 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,920 Speaker 1: It's just a room with an open door and a 1028 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: shower curtain and I guess that's supposed to go back 1029 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: into out of the cockpit. And then on the wall 1030 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: there's a clipboard and what is this circular thing is 1031 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be a thermometer or something. I guess 1032 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be some sort of gauge, but it's 1033 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: clearly just some sort of um a circular slidey reference 1034 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: tool that's just been pinned to the wall. But they're 1035 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: so they're like looking out the window and saying yep, 1036 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: that's the old San Fernando Valley right there, right where 1037 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. And then suddenly, zoom, you got 1038 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: a flying saucer goes by out the window and it 1039 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: they're showing it off to the flight attendant and uh 1040 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: and it kind of rocks the plane and they're like, wow, 1041 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: that was nothing from this world. And the pilot here 1042 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,439 Speaker 1: is Gregory Walcott. That's uh, Jeff Trent, our our hero, 1043 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: and he's immediately very concerned that the passengers not find 1044 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,080 Speaker 1: out about the flying saucer. But the flying saucer goes 1045 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: by and then it lands at the cemetery from earlier, 1046 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and the grave diggers here something. This is a dialogue 1047 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: exchange that must be quoted. Uh so the grave diggers say, 1048 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: you hear anything I thought I did? Don't like here 1049 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: in noises, especially when there ain't supposed to be any Yeah, 1050 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: kind of spooky, like maybe we're getting old. Well, whatever 1051 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: it is, it's gone now that's the best thing for 1052 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: us to gone. Yeah, let's go. It's just And then 1053 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: here comes vampire. She shows up, comes lurching out of 1054 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 1: the darkness, and the myths looking just you know, completely 1055 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: put together, very much. Has this this gothic queen look down, 1056 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 1: um and uh yeah, we're we're off to the races 1057 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: here with the dad rising from the grave. Absolutely flagrant 1058 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: inter cutting between night shots and day shots in this sequence, 1059 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: continuity does not even seem to be attempted. And so 1060 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Vampira walks up on them, and I was, she kills them, 1061 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: But how are you imagining she kills the grave diggers? 1062 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: What she does is she kind of stands in a 1063 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: pose like an idle video game character, like a t pose, 1064 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: and then suddenly raises her hands up while standing behind 1065 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 1: a shrub, and then the grave digger scream and die. Yeah. 1066 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I think it's later in the picture we do have 1067 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: some police comparing bodies to aunt wild animal kills. So 1068 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 1: I guess she's supposed to have used those really long 1069 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: nails of hers. I guess, so, yeah, the nails seem significant. 1070 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: But then after that we get the famous shot immortalized 1071 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: in Tim Burton's Would of Bella Go See, coming out 1072 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,919 Speaker 1: of a little house and standing in his front yard 1073 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: and stopping to smell a rose, apparently in grief. Meanwhile, 1074 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Chriswell is narrating, you know, Chris Well is just going 1075 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: on about how the house that they when which they 1076 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: shared their love, became a tomb. And then Bella wanders 1077 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: just out of frame, and then there is an immediate 1078 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: sound cue. He's the second he steps out of out 1079 01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: of picture. Tire screech, scream, crash, sirens. Though I would 1080 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: like to stress obviously we're supposed to believe that Bella 1081 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: was crushed by a runaway truck or something right after 1082 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,280 Speaker 1: he left the shot, but actually you can see his 1083 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: shadow still falling on the grass, not moving, So he's 1084 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: just stepped out of you, is standing there casting a shadow. 1085 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Rob I did a picture for you to look at. 1086 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,160 Speaker 1: You can see the shadow on the bottom left and 1087 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 1: then the screech and and the scream. Brilliant Again, Edward 1088 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: was not going to let the death of a central 1089 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: character stand in the way of not only continuing production, 1090 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: but also not redoing a single thing that he'd already shot. Right, 1091 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: So we go straight onto the funeral and then we 1092 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: see people coming out of what they call a cript 1093 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: but it's just like it looks like a cardboard box. 1094 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: And oh, it is such a clown car situation. Many 1095 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 1: people coming out of this tiny box. We have this 1096 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: tiny's and you know, if you've ever been in a crip, 1097 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this is a movie cript This 1098 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: is like like a Santo and the Tomb of Dracula 1099 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: crypt where I guess there's supposed to be a lot 1100 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: going on in there, but we don't see that on screen. 1101 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 1: It looks like a tiny little phone booth made out 1102 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: of cardboard that's been sprayed gray to look kind of 1103 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: like granite. And is this the scene where they also 1104 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: they go ahead and established well, due to their customs, 1105 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: um the the the old man's wife was buried in 1106 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: the ground, and he was buried inside of a tomb 1107 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: inside of this mausoleum type situation, which I love because 1108 01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: it's clearly a situation where there is they at least realized, oh, yeah, 1109 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: well we have her. Why would we Why would she 1110 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 1: be buried there and he buried here? Should we reshoot anything, No, 1111 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: We'll just to have a have a line or two 1112 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 1: that establishes that there is a reason for this. It's cultural. 1113 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it, but it makes sense. Yeah, it's 1114 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: the mourners who climb out of the box, and then 1115 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: the lady goes first his wife, then he and then 1116 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: her husband goes tragic, uh, and that, Yeah, they have 1117 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,160 Speaker 1: the conversation about how it's due to due to an 1118 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: old family superstition that she had to be in the 1119 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: ground and he had to be in a crypt. But 1120 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think it's literally because they just 1121 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: already shot some of the shots and then they're like, oh, 1122 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: we gotta cover for that. I just had so many 1123 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: questions about this custom, like why, I mean, it's it's 1124 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 1: it's you know, it sounds kind of sexist obviously, but 1125 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: like what possible reason would there be, Like well, like, oh, 1126 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,440 Speaker 1: you can't bury the men and the women in the 1127 01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: same soil. I need the soil. That's where you bury women, 1128 01:04:53,160 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 1: then you bury in them. It's just ridiculous. But we're 1129 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: about to get to the police because some mourners they 1130 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: get spooked seeing bodies of the grave diggers and they 1131 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: freak out and the police arrive and oh man, this 1132 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: is when we first meet Tore Johnson. Before he's a zombie. 1133 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: He's a human. He's in fact a police inspector. Yes, uh, 1134 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: And there's yeah, there's some great dialogue here from him. 1135 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: This is a scene where the dialogue like it would 1136 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,840 Speaker 1: have been funny even if it had been delivered. Well, 1137 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: but it's Tore Johnson saying it. So you know here 1138 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: there's one part, I think the very first thing he 1139 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: says when he gets there, he's like, melcle Examiner been 1140 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: here yet? So it's the Melcle Examiner. And um, there's 1141 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: one part where he's like, I'm gonna go walk off 1142 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: in the dark and they're like, be careful, it's dark. 1143 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: And then he's just like, I'll be big boy now, Johnny. 1144 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah toward Johnson. Yeah, clearly not a not not an 1145 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: actor in this sense, is a physical presence. But it's 1146 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: kind of cute though, because you get kind of maybe 1147 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: a sense of the real tour Johnson in this shot, 1148 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, because he was supposedly like just kind of 1149 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: a big teddy bear. They didn't say much, but it 1150 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: was kind of a nice guy to be around. Yeah. Um, 1151 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: so he goes wandering off into the darkness and the 1152 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: mist and then we, uh, we finally we meet Paula Trnt. 1153 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: So Jeff Trent is back home now and he's hanging 1154 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 1: out on his porch with a bunch of wicker furniture, 1155 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 1: having a drink with his wife Paula, and uh, they're 1156 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: commenting on how you remember Jeff Trent was the pilot 1157 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 1: from the plane, and so they're married. They apparently live 1158 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: in a house inside the cemetery as best I can tell. Um, 1159 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: like they talked about that fact, and uh they are 1160 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: no tour Johnson's. But this couple has really weird energy 1161 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: and some of the clunkiest dialogue in movie history. Uh 1162 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: it's again, it's hard to explain without just watching the movie, 1163 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, Like Paula says to him, I don't think 1164 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: I've ever seen you in this mood before, and he says, 1165 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I guess it's because I've never been in this mood before. 1166 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: And uh, Putty here explains that he's in this unfamiliar 1167 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 1: mood because he saw a flying saucer on his flight 1168 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: this morning, and she goes, you mean the kind from 1169 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 1: up to the from up there, and he goes, yeah, 1170 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 1: or it's counterpart. I didn't know what that meant this 1171 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: whole sequence. One of the things I love about it 1172 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: is that Wood is trying to create what is essentially 1173 01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: a realistic scene with with with this whole speculati the 1174 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: pick aspect to it, where it's a wife asking her husband, like, 1175 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: what's bothering you there's something bothering you, and he is 1176 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 1: having to admit that it's something that I don't even feel, 1177 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: but that comfortable talking about. And so this has tons 1178 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: of real world parallels obviously, and it's one of these 1179 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 1: great moments where it's like the writer director, uh, you know, 1180 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 1: filmmakers almost like aliens, trying to figure out how how 1181 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: normal humans interact with each other. And well he yeah, 1182 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 1: so it's trying to show that is the dynamic I 1183 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,880 Speaker 1: think it's going for, But instead it just turns into 1184 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: Gregory Walcott having this rant about about a cover up. 1185 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, big army brass grabbed us and 1186 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: made us swear to secrecy about the whole thing. And 1187 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,839 Speaker 1: then he's just on the subject of big army brass 1188 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 1: like he he mentions it several more times. He's really upset. 1189 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: He's like, people keep seeing these saucers, but but I 1190 01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 1: can't say a word. I'm muzzled by army brass. Oh 1191 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,840 Speaker 1: and then right then the uh flying saucers zooms over 1192 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: them and knocks over all the wicker furniture. Uh. So 1193 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 1: then we get a scene where Tore Johnson is attacked 1194 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: by Bella not Bella Legosie by the Bell Legosie body 1195 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: double and by Vampira, And I just wondered why. So 1196 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be investigating the graveyard for clues, but 1197 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: he's just walking around with his gun pointed in front 1198 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 1: of him. Yeah. Yeah, really, this one, this is just 1199 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,600 Speaker 1: a small thing when it comes to the depiction of 1200 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: firearms by law enforcement in this picture. Uh yeah, there's nobody. 1201 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: Clearly nobody had ever been around a gun before or 1202 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: had any idea about what gun safety was or what 1203 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,840 Speaker 1: it might look like on the screen. Uh, it's it's 1204 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: so ridiculous. Well, so, yeah, tour gets killed by the zombies. 1205 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,599 Speaker 1: And then the other main cop who we follow after 1206 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: this is the police lieutenant I don't even remember his name, 1207 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: the police lieutenant who just uses his gun as like 1208 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: a like a pointer stick. So he whenever he's talking 1209 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: about something or about someone, he points their gun the 1210 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,600 Speaker 1: gun at them. He also scratches his own head with 1211 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: the barrel of the gun and like holds it with 1212 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: the barrel pointed into his own chest. Yeah, if he 1213 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: had picked his nose with the barrel of the gun, 1214 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: it would not have been any more outrageous than everything 1215 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: else he does with it. But so they're walking around 1216 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 1: they find they find Towards Johnson dead and they observed. 1217 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 1: They said, Inspector Clay is dead, murdered and somebody's responsible. 1218 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: So we get a funeral for Inspector Clay and it 1219 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 1: seems vampires attending the funeral. She's just standing there watching. Uh. 1220 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 1: And then we got two people seeing flying saucers over 1221 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 1: Hollywood Boulevard, like there's like a car going by in 1222 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: a part where like three people suddenly point out the 1223 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: windows at the saucer, all in unison. Um. Uh. And 1224 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: meanwhile we're getting Criswell monologues over this where Chris wells like, 1225 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 1: there comes a time and each man's life when he 1226 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 1: can't believe his own eyes. And uh. They here's where 1227 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 1: they decided got to pad this movie out. We got 1228 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 1: some stock military stock footage, so they show planes flying, 1229 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 1: rockets launching, just military hardware doing stuff. Yeah. Yeah, there's 1230 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: all these shots of one Colonel Edwards just standing there 1231 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 1: basically a blank background, staring up supposedly the sky would 1232 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,560 Speaker 1: have been poculars and just ordering all the rockets to 1233 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: be fired at these three UFOs. He doesn't even seem 1234 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,120 Speaker 1: to care what continent. These rockets are on, so we 1235 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: just got all the stock footage of rockets firing. What 1236 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: is the deal with the secrecy about the UFOs? This 1237 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: is completely inconsistent in the movie. So part of the 1238 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: movie they're saying Army Brass won't let anybody know that 1239 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 1: UFOs exist. But then also we here we cut to 1240 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 1: Colonel Edwards and he's talking to just some soldier and 1241 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: they're talking about the flying saucers and the soldier is like, hey, 1242 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 1: what's the deal with these flying saucers, And the colonels like, well, uh, 1243 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,679 Speaker 1: they attacked us. They he says, they attacked the town. 1244 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: A small town, I'll admit it, but nevertheless a town 1245 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:46,919 Speaker 1: of people across the line. And he reveals Edwards reveals 1246 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: the big Army Brass is covering up the alien menace. 1247 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: You know. He says, take any earthquake, any fire, any 1248 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 1: natural disaster. You think that's natural disasters, you know what, 1249 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,040 Speaker 1: it's probably actually aliens. Yeah, if you drop aliens in 1250 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: the middle of this and everything makes sense. But I 1251 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 1: think it's time to meet some aliens. So let's go 1252 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,520 Speaker 1: to the mothership in orbit around the Earth. A mothership 1253 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: which really just looks like a breast or a nipple. 1254 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very glaring. But so we meet 1255 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 1: the aliens and these uh they do a salute where 1256 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 1: they like cross their arms on their chest, and that's 1257 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 1: very funny. Kangan Kodos do the same salute when they're 1258 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 1: on The Simpsons. But the Alien boss is played by 1259 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 1: Bunny Breckenridge, and here you he's wearing a medieval times 1260 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: tunic with a like a sigil of an ax on it. 1261 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: And then we see the underlings Arrow Syntana and they're 1262 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 1: wearing their satin tunics and they have this bizarre conversation 1263 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: where they're talking about what plans they are going to 1264 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,479 Speaker 1: enact on Earth. Breckenridge says, oh, what plan will you 1265 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: follow now? And Arrow says, well, you know, we tried 1266 01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,600 Speaker 1: to contact Earth leaders, but they reject our existence. You 1267 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 1: just can't talk to these Earth humans. Their soul is 1268 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 1: too controlled, that's what he says. I don't know what 1269 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: that means. But here they say it's time to go 1270 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 1: with Plan nine. So what's Plan nine going to be? 1271 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 1: He says, oh, yes, Plan nine deals with the resurrection 1272 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: of the dead. Long distance electrodes shot into the pinnial 1273 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: and pituitary glands of recent dead. Okay, I guess that 1274 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,720 Speaker 1: would explain the zombies we've seen. But what what we're 1275 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 1: Plans one through eight? I was thinking about this, so 1276 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: I guess Plan one was evidently just buzz major cities 1277 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 1: with UFOs and just kind of like freak people out 1278 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I'm guessing that plans too. Through 1279 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,000 Speaker 1: eight we're just kind of the stock plots of any 1280 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: other nineteen fifties film, you know. So it's like Plan 1281 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: two's giant animals attack, Plan three animals attack, Yeah, giants, scorpions, 1282 01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: probably throw some robots and monsters in there. Maybe they 1283 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: get up to something like superviruses and space religion eventually, 1284 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 1: but by the time you get to Plan nine, it's 1285 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 1: the resurrection of the Dead. Well, it's it's a great plan, 1286 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 1: and Dudley man Love really sells it. He's like, we 1287 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 1: have risen too so far, we shall be just as 1288 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 1: successful on more. I do actually buy into Plan nine 1289 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,679 Speaker 1: a bit when this scene in Others where they discussed 1290 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: that the aliens are discussing it because it's kind of 1291 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: like they won't see this coming. This is going to 1292 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 1: freak them out, like there's a there's a sense of 1293 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 1: psychological warfare to it that sounds sensible, like if if 1294 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 1: aliens had the ability to do this and they wanted 1295 01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 1: to mess with us, Yeah, make make our dead come 1296 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 1: back to life. Now, maybe resurrect more than three of them. 1297 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. They had to scale 1298 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: up from somewhere right. Well, So they explained that the 1299 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 1: purpose of Plan nine is to make the humans acknowledge 1300 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: their existence. They say, like, they won't accept that we exist. Uh, 1301 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, they just shoot at us when we come 1302 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 1: down there, and then they believe that we're not real. 1303 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 1: So we have to make them accept our existence by 1304 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 1: raising the dead. I don't know why that would be 1305 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: more effective than the flying saucers. Yeah, I don't have 1306 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 1: an answer to that, but I like, I like, if 1307 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: I lean into it and I think about it, I 1308 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,719 Speaker 1: can think of it as kind of a psychological attack 1309 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,879 Speaker 1: as a way of of causing um panic among the humans, 1310 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: like more panic than just the UFOs. The UFOs are 1311 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 1: up there, but the dead are down here. There's a 1312 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 1: great scene Aero Syntanna like walk out of the room 1313 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: that they leave Breckinridge behind and uh arrows says, you know, 1314 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing the earth people who can think 1315 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:37,799 Speaker 1: are so frightened by those who cannot. The dead. Yes, anyway, 1316 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: they go back to Earth. We get another porch dialogue 1317 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: scene between Paula and Jeff. You know, they're he's leaving. 1318 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 1: This is the scene with the whole like the saucers 1319 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: are up there and the cemeteries out there, but I'll 1320 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 1: be locked up in there and um oh man. This 1321 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: is also the scene where they have the pillow conversation. 1322 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 1: She's like, when you're gone, I need your pillow here 1323 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 1: because I can touch your pillow and and he he 1324 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: seems kind of weirded out by it, you know. He 1325 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 1: he leaves being like, well, I love you, darling, but 1326 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,640 Speaker 1: you're off your rocker. And then he gets back in 1327 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: the airplane and leaves. It's awesome. Uh so what we 1328 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: get a bunch of other shenanigans with Jeff on the 1329 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: plane and the co pilot and the stewardess talking about 1330 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 1: going to Albuquerque and trying to party there. I don't 1331 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 1: even will skip over all that. So we get belle 1332 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 1: Lego see in some actual shots where it's really him, 1333 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: but then other shots where it's the body double showing 1334 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:39,200 Speaker 1: back up and essentially like creeping into the Trent house. Oh. 1335 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: I love this scene because he's creeping around and then 1336 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: he's like coming up to the door and sort of 1337 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 1: jiggling it a little bit. But no, no, no, he 1338 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 1: rings the doorbell and then he comes inside like he's 1339 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: just not cut out for this, uh, this breaking and 1340 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: entering thing. Yeah, So Paul is in bed and then 1341 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,480 Speaker 1: the old man walks into her bed room. She screams, 1342 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: and then she just runs past him out the door. 1343 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 1: He's very slow moving. Uh it makes me think of 1344 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: Night of the Living Dead. Actually, you know, like are 1345 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,760 Speaker 1: these creatures slow moving? Oh? Yeah, they're dead. They're all 1346 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 1: missed up. I think that applies to Bella in this. 1347 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 1: And so she just runs past him and then runs 1348 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 1: out into the cemetery. We get a great shot of 1349 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 1: Tour Johnson rising from the grave and it does look 1350 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: pretty creepy. I remember seeing this as a kid and 1351 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 1: finding it pretty creepy, pretty disturbing, because yeah, we've got 1352 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 1: the blaring horn music tour is just touring it up 1353 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,600 Speaker 1: to eleven here. It looks really good. We get a 1354 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 1: bunch of chasing around in the cemetery. The zombies are 1355 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: chasing Paula, cutting randomly back and forth between nighttime and daytime. 1356 01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 1: And then eventually a random cowboy hat man in a 1357 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,639 Speaker 1: in a convertible rescues Paula. She like faints by the road. 1358 01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: He picks her up, puts her in the car, and 1359 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: drives away. For some reason, he knows who she is. 1360 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever met this character, but for oh, 1361 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 1: but next we get a scene where okay, so Aero Santana, 1362 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 1: the aliens now they're landing in the cemetery and they're 1363 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna check out their monsters because they're gonna take them 1364 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,760 Speaker 1: up to show Breckon Ridge up in the mother ship. 1365 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: And there's a great scene where like toward Johnson and 1366 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 1: Vampire are trying to kill them, Like they walk in 1367 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: the door and they're like reaching for them, and and 1368 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 1: Arrows has to be like turn off the electrodes quickly. 1369 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 1: They can't tell us from anyone else. And this is 1370 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: not the only time they lose control of the zombies. 1371 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 1: The zombies are frequently just attacking the aliens themselves. Yeah, 1372 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 1: this and you know this scene, I feel like man 1373 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 1: Love is able to really sell the threat, Like I 1374 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 1: buy into the fact that he's panicking, like he's he's 1375 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 1: losing it. He's a he's at crashing Hindenburgh level when 1376 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 1: it comes to his fear over the big one, the 1377 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,639 Speaker 1: giant toward Johnson, Uh, coming after his throat, and then 1378 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,479 Speaker 1: afterwards he's he's still had a breath and he's like 1379 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 1: that that was too close. Yes. Uh. And then there's 1380 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: also a scene in here where the cops are bumbling 1381 01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,679 Speaker 1: around in the graveyard. This is the one we mentioned 1382 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,759 Speaker 1: earlier where they spend a long time talking about whether 1383 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: they can climb down into an open grave or not. Uh. 1384 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,519 Speaker 1: And eventually one of them does get in there. I 1385 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 1: think it's Paul Marco and he goes it's Inspector Clay's grave, 1386 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 1: but he ain't in it. Uh. There's a oh. So 1387 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: we go to a totally different scene when in Washington, 1388 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 1: d C. Where it's time for more big army brass 1389 01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and this scene was also dumbfounding. So there's like a 1390 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 1: big commander and he gets Colonel Edwards, the guy who 1391 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: we met earlier in there and he's like, oh, you know, 1392 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 1: so you've been in charge of fighting off all these 1393 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 1: flying saucer attacks, but do you really believe there are 1394 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: such things as flying saucers? And Colonel Edwards says, yes, 1395 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I do, And then the boss is like, you can't 1396 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,600 Speaker 1: say you believe in them. You'll be court martialed for 1397 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: believing in flying saucers. And then Colonel Edwards does some 1398 01:19:56,240 --> 01:20:00,200 Speaker 1: real like logic twisting on him. He's like, how could 1399 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 1: I defend the Earth against flying saucers if I didn't 1400 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,680 Speaker 1: believe in what I saw and shot at. It's like, 1401 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Mike drop, you can't. You can't beat that. It's the 1402 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,840 Speaker 1: patriotism shining through, but I don't even understand. So his 1403 01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,880 Speaker 1: boss was trying to get him to say, well, you 1404 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 1: have to fight off the flying saucers, but you also 1405 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 1: can't tell me you believe in them. Anyway, This scene 1406 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 1: leads into a long aeros monologue where they're like, hey, 1407 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 1: we have a language computer that allows us to decode 1408 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 1: messages from the aliens, and so let's listen to Arrows 1409 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 1: talk for ten minutes. Uh So it's a very He's 1410 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 1: giving this whole conversation monologue about how do you still 1411 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: believe it impossible we exist? You didn't actually think you 1412 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: were the only inhabited planet. You are stupid. Yeah, it's 1413 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: very smug, and it's all about just dissing on humanity. 1414 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Uh something he does quite a bit. First of all, 1415 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,439 Speaker 1: you're the worst. Secondly, you're the worst, and and then 1416 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,639 Speaker 1: the third important fact here is you're on the verge 1417 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:03,639 Speaker 1: of just destroying being tire universe. So late fifties Earth 1418 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: technology is on the verge of of creating a catastrophe 1419 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,960 Speaker 1: that will destroy the known universe. And you might think, well, 1420 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: they're not going to explain this, right they have, Well, 1421 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: but they will. They will explain it, and it is dumbfounding. Yeah. Yeah, 1422 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: we get some technical details on this, but he's like, 1423 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: you're about to do it. Your juvenile, stupid minds are 1424 01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 1: are creating too many explosives and you're going to blow 1425 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:35,240 Speaker 1: up the universe. Uh and uh oh. And then later, um, 1426 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,599 Speaker 1: let's see we get a we get a big army 1427 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 1: brass scene where it's Colonel Edwards and his boss again, 1428 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,920 Speaker 1: and Colonel Edwards is like, oh, his I think his 1429 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 1: boss says to them these flying saucers they're attacking the Earth, 1430 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 1: and Colonel Edwards says yes, and then he says, you 1431 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:55,679 Speaker 1: think they mean business? So uh, so he sends Colonel 1432 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 1: Edwards to Los Angeles to the cemetery to investigate the 1433 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: zombies and the saucer attacks there, and then we get 1434 01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 1: the scene where where Breckinridge choose out Arrows and they 1435 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: do the demonstration of Tour Johnson where he is like 1436 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 1: choking Arrows again. They're constantly losing control of him, um 1437 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: and uh, and this demonstration scene is a lot of fun. Yeah. 1438 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 1: He also gets some of his ships taken away, right, uh, 1439 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,120 Speaker 1: like you don't need all all three UFOs now you're 1440 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 1: down to one. Yeah. Yeah. Arrows gets chewed out big time, 1441 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: like it's a real dressing down by his boss. Um, 1442 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,080 Speaker 1: but he is impressed by Tour when he sees him. 1443 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,559 Speaker 1: He goes, yes, he's a fine specimen. Are they all 1444 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,839 Speaker 1: this powerful on planet Earth? He literally says, well, actually 1445 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 1: the other two are a woman and an old man. 1446 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,599 Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, all right, but they're like, oh, 1447 01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I know a good idea with the old man, so 1448 01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 1: he has the The boss has the idea, what if 1449 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,719 Speaker 1: you take Bella Legosi and you make him He literally 1450 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 1: explains that they should do all this, you should make 1451 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:03,439 Speaker 1: him walk into somebody's house. And then instantly decompose in 1452 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,839 Speaker 1: front of them and that will convince them that aliens exist. 1453 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 1: That'll do it. Yes, that has to work. Uh. So 1454 01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,720 Speaker 1: here we get the big army brass shows up at 1455 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the Trent's house. So it's another porch scene. They're hanging 1456 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 1: out in the wicker furniture and Colonel Edwards walks in 1457 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, uh, hello, how are you doing? And uh, 1458 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 1: Bella Legosie walks up on them while they're on the 1459 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,560 Speaker 1: porch and they shoot at him to no avail. But 1460 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 1: then suddenly a ray is emitted from the spaceship at 1461 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,639 Speaker 1: Bella lagos See and he just instantly turns into a skeleton. 1462 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 1: So turbo rot. Yeah, and it's one of those great 1463 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,679 Speaker 1: scenes where he just turns into a like a high 1464 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 1: school science classroom skeleton. Yeah, it's it's beautiful and in 1465 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,800 Speaker 1: a way, Plan nine kind of works because that makes 1466 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,439 Speaker 1: everybody be like, wow, I guess we better go and investigate. 1467 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: I assume everybody else at this meeting already did believe 1468 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 1: in aliens. Maybe not the police lieutenant, but Edwards did 1469 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 1: and Jeff Trent did. Yeah, and now they really I 1470 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 1: mean it kind of backfires on him because they're like, well, 1471 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 1: I guess we gotta do something about this. Now, let's 1472 01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 1: go arrest those aliens. Yeah, the police lieutenants like, we 1473 01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen the last of those weirdies. So um, they 1474 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 1: wander into the graveyard to investigate. They leave Paula in 1475 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the car uh, and the aliens. Meanwhile, we see Aero 1476 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,640 Speaker 1: Santana talking about how their ship is about to be 1477 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: discovered and they can't allow that. So, like the purpose 1478 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 1: of creating the zombies is to get the Earth Links 1479 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,840 Speaker 1: to accept the existence of aliens, but they also can't 1480 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 1: allow the humans to see them or know about them. Yeah, 1481 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,120 Speaker 1: So they leave Paula in the car, but then Tour 1482 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 1: attacks the car. He knocks down paul Marco by slapping 1483 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,000 Speaker 1: him on the shoulders. I think this is what you 1484 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,439 Speaker 1: called the double chop. Uh. And then he grabs Paula 1485 01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,200 Speaker 1: and carries her to the ship. So we do get 1486 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,639 Speaker 1: the classic scene that's on the poster of Tore Johnson 1487 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 1: carrying Paula unconscious. Yeah. Like we said on the show before, 1488 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,920 Speaker 1: this is an iconic image of the classic monster, the 1489 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,040 Speaker 1: monster carrying the unconscious woman. Yeah, And of course Edward 1490 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 1: does not shy away from creating this tableau for us. 1491 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 1: So when Bride of the Monster on the poster, it 1492 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 1: shows bell Lego see carrying the lady, and he does 1493 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: not do that in the movie. I think Tore Johnson 1494 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: does in that one as well. Well, if you need 1495 01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 1: somebody to carry another body around, I mean towards your 1496 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,920 Speaker 1: man like, that's what he's been doing. That's that he 1497 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 1: has a career based on carrying very large humans around 1498 01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 1: and uh and uh, and and also being carried himself 1499 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,680 Speaker 1: to a certain extent. So he can probably help you 1500 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,439 Speaker 1: out if you did need a scene where somebody's carrying 1501 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 1: an unconscious tour around. So three lugs go into the spaceship. 1502 01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 1: You got, you got Jeff Trent, You've got the police 1503 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,960 Speaker 1: inspector or, the police lieutenant and Colonel Edwards, and they 1504 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 1: all have revolvers and they go into the spaceship and 1505 01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,639 Speaker 1: point them at the aliens um. And then we get 1506 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:03,719 Speaker 1: some villain monologue where Arrows he winds a lot about 1507 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: how human governments refused to accept their existence um, and 1508 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,360 Speaker 1: he says uh, and it's like why And they ask, well, 1509 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,639 Speaker 1: why do you care so much about governments of Earth 1510 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,639 Speaker 1: accepting you? And he says, because of death, because all 1511 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:23,479 Speaker 1: you of Earth are idiots. And then he goes into this, uh, 1512 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:30,480 Speaker 1: this crazy series of monologues about how the Earthlings are 1513 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 1: building a bigger, bigger, and bigger bombs. He says, first 1514 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,600 Speaker 1: was your firecracker, a harmless explosive, Then your hand grenade. 1515 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,040 Speaker 1: You began to kill your own people a few at 1516 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 1: a time, Then the bomb, then a larger bomb, many 1517 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,639 Speaker 1: people are killed at one time. Then your scientists stumbled 1518 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 1: upon the atom bomb, split the atom, then the hydrogen bomb, 1519 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 1: where you actually explode the air itself. Now you can 1520 01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,599 Speaker 1: arrange the total destruction of the entire universe served by 1521 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 1: our son. The only explosion left is the solar night uh. 1522 01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,080 Speaker 1: And this, he explains, is a bomb that will explode 1523 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,280 Speaker 1: the sunlight itself. And of course Jeff Trent likes that idea. 1524 01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 1: He's like, well, if we had that, we'd then we'd 1525 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,080 Speaker 1: be an even stronger nation than we are now. And 1526 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,600 Speaker 1: this is where Aeros responds with the most maybe the 1527 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 1: most famous line of the movie. He says, stronger you 1528 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:31,679 Speaker 1: see you see your stupid minds, stupid, stupid, and Jeff, 1529 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, he gets offended when Earthlings are called stupid. 1530 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 1: He says, that's enough out of you, and he slugs it. 1531 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 1: It's a it's a great moment in an interplanetary um 1532 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 1: communication here. Yuh, everyone is really terrible at it. We 1533 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:54,040 Speaker 1: get a long explanation of how the solar night bomb 1534 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 1: works using metaphors of a can of gasoline. I'm not 1535 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,559 Speaker 1: going to try to reproduce all of that, but they 1536 01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,719 Speaker 1: say it's actually that it's a bomb that will allow 1537 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 1: you to blow up sunlight, and it will blow up 1538 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,800 Speaker 1: the sun and then it will blow up everything that 1539 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,479 Speaker 1: the sunlight has ever touched. Yeah, like you split a 1540 01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,040 Speaker 1: photon and it's going to cause like a photon splitting 1541 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,400 Speaker 1: chain reaction where it's going to follow a beam of 1542 01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 1: light back to its source, which is the Sun, but 1543 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 1: also travel out on the starlight from the Sun, and 1544 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,120 Speaker 1: I guess reach anywhere that the light of our sun reaches. 1545 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,599 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, well, okay, if this, if I 1546 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,479 Speaker 1: and I am being generous here, if this were going 1547 01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,679 Speaker 1: to happen, that would still take a very long time. 1548 01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,479 Speaker 1: Like it's not going to be an instantaneous destroy the 1549 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:44,840 Speaker 1: universe situation. Uh, people with better astrophysics knowledge, please correct me, 1550 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: because I haven't researched this. But my my gut understanding 1551 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,519 Speaker 1: of this, I think is that that would mean the 1552 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:52,559 Speaker 1: it would take a long time, but it would mean 1553 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 1: the eventual destruction of our entire local galaxy. But I 1554 01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:59,880 Speaker 1: would also think that at this point, other galaxies are 1555 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 1: moving away from us at such a rate that it 1556 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,400 Speaker 1: would actually never catch up to them. So I think 1557 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,040 Speaker 1: other galaxies might be Okay, Well, maybe if we're to 1558 01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 1: take everything that Aros says here is truth, like maybe 1559 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe other cultures have developed this technology and have used it, 1560 01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 1: and so you have you have whole pockets of the 1561 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,120 Speaker 1: universe that have been wiped out by it, and so 1562 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 1: they just want don't want to see large chunks of 1563 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: the universe continue to go this route. But I suspect 1564 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,720 Speaker 1: that we would actually never be able to know that 1565 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 1: something like this was happening, because if the destruction is 1566 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 1: traveling at the speed of light, you would have no 1567 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 1: forewarning of it, right Like, you wouldn't be by the 1568 01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,040 Speaker 1: time you saw it it would arrive at you. Yeah, yeah, 1569 01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know. They're they're very advanced, these celestials, 1570 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 1: so they have they have tools. We don't have resources, 1571 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 1: we don't have um again, one wonders what would have 1572 01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,560 Speaker 1: happened if they had a little more tact in approaching 1573 01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 1: this instead of just showing up, insulting us, buzzing our city. 1574 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,559 Speaker 1: He's been raising are dead? Come on, we're a sensitive people. 1575 01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:08,040 Speaker 1: Well anyway, so they have a big fight, big fist fight, 1576 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,560 Speaker 1: uh Jeff Trand is like punching arrows, and they slam 1577 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,799 Speaker 1: and they they like they're smashing the equipment on the table. 1578 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: The ship is on fire, and eventually the humans get 1579 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 1: out of it. They're all right, and the aliens try 1580 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 1: to take off in their flying saucer but it's on 1581 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,840 Speaker 1: fire and then it explodes. And I found this to 1582 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 1: be kind of a like a hauntingly nice scene. I mean, yes, 1583 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,040 Speaker 1: the UFOs effects in this film are what they are, 1584 01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:38,080 Speaker 1: but the scene of the flying saucer on fire over 1585 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 1: the over the Hollywood lights at night and then it explodes, 1586 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something kind of poignant about it. 1587 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 1: Can you guess how the movie ends? It's all monologue, 1588 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,599 Speaker 1: go back to Chriswell. He's gonna tie it all up 1589 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,479 Speaker 1: in a neat little bow. He's gonna make sense of 1590 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,640 Speaker 1: all this. Um So, Chriswell says, my friend, you have 1591 01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: seen this incident based on sworn testimony. Uh no, I 1592 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: can't do the voice the whole time, he says, can 1593 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,800 Speaker 1: you prove it didn't happen. Perhaps on your way home, 1594 01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: someone will pass you in the dark and you will 1595 01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,839 Speaker 1: never know it, for they will be from outer space. 1596 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 1: Many scientists believe that another world is watching us at 1597 01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 1: this moment. We once laughed at the horseless carriage, the aeroplane, 1598 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:28,800 Speaker 1: the telephone, the electric light, vitamins, radio, and even television, 1599 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 1: and now some of us laugh at outer space. God 1600 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:37,439 Speaker 1: help us in the future the end. I love it. Yeah, 1601 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,720 Speaker 1: prove that it didn't happen. The burden of proof is 1602 01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 1: on you, audience. Yes, yes, disprove or except oh yeah. 1603 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,439 Speaker 1: There's just there's there's so much to love in this picture. 1604 01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Like even if you took out everything we mentioned, there's 1605 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:55,320 Speaker 1: still like three more bad movies worth of stuff here, 1606 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:58,559 Speaker 1: you know, three more psychatronic films worth of of like 1607 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 1: strange line deliver ease and weird ideas and and jarring 1608 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,559 Speaker 1: use of footage. It's just it's a gold mine. This 1609 01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,639 Speaker 1: picture one of the best of the best of all time. 1610 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Uh I love Plan nine. Yeah, and it's you know, 1611 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. But at the same time you have these 1612 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,200 Speaker 1: scenes that these kind of like very dry looking exterior 1613 01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,240 Speaker 1: shots in um in in in los in the Los 1614 01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:26,599 Speaker 1: Angeles area, you know, tombstones and uh in in these 1615 01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,519 Speaker 1: you know, these very scraggly looking plants and trees. I 1616 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 1: don't know, there's there's there is some authenticity sprinkled in 1617 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 1: there as well that kind of gives you a little 1618 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,320 Speaker 1: peek into the world out of which it emerged. You know, 1619 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,880 Speaker 1: one last question, do you think Edward when he wrote 1620 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:47,040 Speaker 1: this sympathized with the aeros monologue about our stupid earth minds? 1621 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,639 Speaker 1: Was he expressing his point of view or was Arrows 1622 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be the bad guy representing an incorrect point 1623 01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,560 Speaker 1: of view. I feel like he had to be sympathetic 1624 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,600 Speaker 1: to this cause, I mean, it's given so much monologue 1625 01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,960 Speaker 1: time in the picture, and there's this, and then of 1626 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,240 Speaker 1: course we have the Chriswell stuff that is treating the 1627 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 1: film like prophecy. So yeah, he had to be. There 1628 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 1: is this kind of cautionary tale that seems to be 1629 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,559 Speaker 1: present no matter how you know, poorly it's ultimately presented, 1630 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:20,599 Speaker 1: or how whackadoodle the the speculative science is that's wrapped 1631 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 1: up in it. Um. But yeah, and and also I 1632 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,280 Speaker 1: guess to be fair, this is also an idea that 1633 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,360 Speaker 1: we see just spread out across science fiction in general. 1634 01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,400 Speaker 1: That's something maybe watching us and Something may have an 1635 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,880 Speaker 1: outsider perspective on where we are as a culture, and 1636 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,160 Speaker 1: it may realize the the the errors of our way, 1637 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 1: the dangers that we're bound to encounter, and that we're 1638 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:45,400 Speaker 1: kind of looking to UFOs as kind of a a 1639 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:49,920 Speaker 1: divine entity or or or conversely an infernal entity that 1640 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 1: will either help us and help us choose the right 1641 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:58,000 Speaker 1: direction or judge us for the direction we've chosen thus far. Yeah, 1642 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 1: I think I can get down with that. Another last 1643 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:02,360 Speaker 1: thing I will have to say this time is that 1644 01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 1: I really think you can't overstate the importance of the 1645 01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:11,599 Speaker 1: Criswell framing in establishing the self important tone of the movie. 1646 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,040 Speaker 1: Uh that like that, like the movie thinks that it 1647 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:19,639 Speaker 1: is powerful and perhaps world changing. It's like I'm trying toine, 1648 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 1: like imagine if um the room started and ended with 1649 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: monologues about how this movie will change the world, and 1650 01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:35,400 Speaker 1: the monologues are from like the Long Island Medium. Yeah, Yeah, 1651 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,479 Speaker 1: there's a self importance to the picture. It feels like 1652 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,720 Speaker 1: it's tapping into the now that it's you know, it's like, 1653 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 1: this is stuff that's happening, and people are talking about UFOs. 1654 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,960 Speaker 1: There's something going on. Um. You know, we we have 1655 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 1: issues with UH, with where we are as a people. 1656 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 1: We have concerns about the future and about the state 1657 01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 1: of technology, and so this this film is like, Yeah, 1658 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 1: we're really tapping into all that. We have something to say. 1659 01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 1: Get Deadly Man Love on the phone. We're gonna cast 1660 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,519 Speaker 1: him in this picture. Okay, I think that's We've got 1661 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:09,880 Speaker 1: to We've got to end. Yeah, there's so much here 1662 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,680 Speaker 1: and and we'd love to hear from everyone out there. 1663 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 1: Everyone who has loved Plan nine from Outer Space in 1664 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 1: the past, and perhaps you haven't seen it before, like 1665 01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,000 Speaker 1: now is the time, and maybe you're inspired by our 1666 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,000 Speaker 1: thoughts here. We would love to hear your thoughts on 1667 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 1: it as well. Perhaps there's some particular UH moment or 1668 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,360 Speaker 1: line in the picture that really UH is close to 1669 01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:33,240 Speaker 1: your heart that we didn't mention right in. We'd love 1670 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,680 Speaker 1: to hear from you, and we'll discuss this UH in 1671 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,519 Speaker 1: a future episode of Listener Mail. Oh and I should 1672 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,160 Speaker 1: point out when it comes to where to find Plan 1673 01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:42,920 Speaker 1: nine from outer space. Luckily, you can find it a 1674 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,639 Speaker 1: lot of places these days, the various DVD and perhaps 1675 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 1: even Blu ray releases that are available. I know that 1676 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,640 Speaker 1: there was a recent colorization of the picture, but I 1677 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,400 Speaker 1: rewatched it in black and white. I feel like it 1678 01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,519 Speaker 1: needs to be in black and white. But but hey, 1679 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 1: if if colorization is what gets you there, then fair enough, 1680 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:04,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and do it. Now. I'm a purist about this. 1681 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 1: Don't meddle with Plan nine. Yeah, I mean there's something 1682 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,040 Speaker 1: about those gothic of scenes in the cemetery, right, I 1683 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 1: mean those those have to be in in black and white. 1684 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean I assume Vampira and Tour we're in black 1685 01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:20,120 Speaker 1: and white in real life. I can't imagine them as 1686 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:23,040 Speaker 1: flesh and blood color uh entities. It's certainly not in 1687 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,080 Speaker 1: this picture, alright. As always, you can check out other 1688 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 1: episodes of Weird House Cinema in the Stuff to Blow 1689 01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,679 Speaker 1: Your Mind podcast feed every Friday. We're primarily a science podcast, 1690 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 1: but Fridays are our time to set aside most serious 1691 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,280 Speaker 1: concerns and just talk about a weird film. Again. I'll 1692 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,960 Speaker 1: post some of the various multimedia uh tie ins that 1693 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,559 Speaker 1: we discussed here on the blog post for this episode 1694 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 1: at SMUTA music dot com. Also, if you were on Letterbox, 1695 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,760 Speaker 1: and I recommend you get on there because it's a 1696 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,920 Speaker 1: lot of fun. If you're a film fan, we are 1697 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,799 Speaker 1: on letterbox as well. Our user name is weird House, 1698 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:55,760 Speaker 1: so you can follow us there. You can also pull 1699 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,320 Speaker 1: up a cool list that has all of the movies 1700 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,439 Speaker 1: that we've watched in order. You can you can do 1701 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 1: things like divide them up and look at them by 1702 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,240 Speaker 1: genre and decade and so forth, and you can often 1703 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,880 Speaker 1: get a little peek ahead and see what we're discussing next. 1704 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 1: Huge things. As always to our excellent audio producer Seth 1705 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,920 Speaker 1: Nicholas Johnson. 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