1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to you and yours, and welcome 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Bark Tank presented by sugar Dale. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Not in the home office today, in the actual office 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: office today the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Borea for Christmas. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Here after the Browns tough loss to the Bills in 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Week sixteen, twenty three to twenty hi, it's Andrews Ciciliano 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: coming up. Max Starks, the former offensive lineman and pro 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: bowler for the Pittsburgh Steelers who does their radio, also 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: does ESPN games and man of many seasons. Max Starks 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: will join us. I promised Max I would not wear 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: a blue wig and yell at him. He will break 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: down what the Browns have in store for them as 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett goes for the sack record coming up in 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: week seventeen of the Browns obviously trying to ruin the 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Steelers Christmas at Huntington Bank Field. There's a lot to 16 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: break down from the Browns loss to the Bills. I 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: really want to start though with Quincheon, because honestly, my 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: heart broke for the young man, as did Nathan's when 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: we saw it happen. It happened right in front of 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: us where second quarter ball from Shador in the flat, 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: he got hit immediately by Matt Mulano. Ball was on 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the ground, they picked it up. It was blown dead 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: as it should have. But touchdown or run back, that 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: wasn't the story. The story was Quinshawn's leg went in 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: a direction it should not have gone, and you saw 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: it immediately and you just felt sick. You just felt 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: sick for the young man. His season is over, He's 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: going to have surgery. It's a broken leg in a 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: dislocated ankle, and quin Shawn is going to be on 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: the end and he will be back better than ever, 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: no doubt next season. I could bore you with stats 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: eight hundred and five yards. I really did think he 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: was going to get to a thousand and passed Nick 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Chubb's record for the most rushing yards by a Brown's 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: rookie that was nine to ninety six. I had no 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: doubt he was going to pass William Green in eight 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: eighty seven Jim Brown Trent richardson Nick Chubb with the 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: ones that he was trying to jump. As it stands, 39 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: he ends with the fifth best rookie rushing total in 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Brown's history. Stats don't tell the story though you knew 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: he was going to get yards. The story of Quinchewn 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: Judkins is the energy, the outlook, the juice that he 43 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: brought to not only the running back room of the 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: offense as a whole. He is an energy giver, not 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: a taker. And you need more of those guys. You 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: see it. You saw it in the Titans game when 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: he got caught from behind inside the five. You thought 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: he was gone on that screen pass. And after he 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: got caught from behind at the two yard line that 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: was right in front of the dog pound. He got 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: right up in the face of the dog pound and 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: he was yappin' and he was excited, and he brought 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: energy to not only the dog pound, but the entire 54 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: building and the entire offense. That's the Quincheon that this 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: building has come to love, and that I know you 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: listening and watching and rooting for the Brown have as well. 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: So Quinchat on the bend he'll be okay. Can't wait 58 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: to see what he does in year number two. All right, 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: you want to go through the rest of the rookie class, 60 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: let's do it. Harold Fannin has seventy reception seventy seven zero. 61 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: That is a new Browns record for rookies. He is 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: the team's leading receiver and coming into the game, the 63 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Browns had twenty five hundred snaps twenty five hundred from rookies, 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: which led the NFL. The Browns are also going to 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: become the first team since the nineteen sixty eight Buffalo 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Bills to have a rookie lead them in passing yards, 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: in receiving and receptions, and in rushing yards. That is 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: absurd and throwing Carson Swessinger. Carson Swessinger is going to 69 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: lead him in tackles. Let's look at his numbers yesterday. 70 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Carson Swessinger twelve tackles, his seventh game with double digit 71 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: tackles and his sixth consecutive. That stretch of six consecutive 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: games with at least ten tackles is the longest by 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: any one of the NFL this year. Not rookie, not rookie, 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: any defensive player in the NFL this year. I'm going 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: to pound the table. He should be an All Pro 76 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: and back to Fannin, he not only caught a touchdown, 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: he ran for a touchdown as well. I said Mack 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: in July and August that the story of the season, 79 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: and you certainly hoped it would be more than three 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: wins would be told through the eyes of the rookies, 81 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: and they've all been great. As for the quarterback, I 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: thought she Door Sanders played reasonably well. I say reasonably 83 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: because there's always room for growth. He made a lot 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: of plays, he was efficient, They moved up and down 85 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: the field, They stayed out of third downs, especially the 86 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: first couple of possessions that touchdown to fan in great 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: play design. Did it look like something that forty nine 88 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Ers ran with Kyle Yuschek a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: it did. Who cares? It worked? It was a touchdown. 90 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: And then Fannin as well with the rushing touchdown. Is 91 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: the upback there with Aiden Huntington also in the backfield. 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: You gotta love that he's not only local, he's great. 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: And Harold Fannon is a huge building block. And Carson 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Swestner obviously said what I said. Okay, back to Shador, 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good. There a lot of good. 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: What Nathan and I pointed out in the broadcast during 97 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: the game, he's had trouble getting balls tipped at the 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: line a few times. One of them led to an interception. 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: Just about getting arm a little bit higher, you know, 100 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: talk to Andy quarterback. I was trying to get something 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: off the top shelf. Sometimes you always got to remember 102 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: that they have guys that follow the eyes, and they 103 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: have guys that get their hands up around some Shelby Harris. 104 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: You know what. The Bills have a six to seven 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: day on Walker. Maybe I'll post the photo Gay behind 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: the camera by the way, doing the six to seventh 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: thing in mobile at the Senior Bowl last year when 108 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: we were all down there, I interviewed down Walker and 109 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: there is a photo of me and the six seven 110 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: day on Walker's side by side. He's a very very 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: soft spoken young man, but the picture tells a thousand words. 112 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to say it. He's tall, I'm not. 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll post that. Maybe that'll be your your your 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: stocking stuffer back to shore. Sure played well, he truly 115 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: did the end. You know, I thought maybe hunting a 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: little downfield rather than taking the check downs. The rush 117 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: got after him and he lives to see another day. 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: But you're certainly seeing progress and steps and movement forward 119 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: every day. That's all you want, all you want, he 120 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: said during the week. I need to find the easy completions. 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: I need to find the short the layups. Basically, he 122 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: did that. He did that, and so hats off to him. 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Thought he was good on the podium afterwards as well. 124 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: Your quarterback is not going to go No, I disagree 125 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: with the decision to go forward on fourth down. 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: Right. 127 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Show me a quarterback that ever says no, I don't 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: want the ball. I no, I don't want it. No punt, 129 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Let's punt. I've never met one ever and never will, 130 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: by the way, because they don't exist. If your quarterback 131 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: is the guy that says no, I think we should 132 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: I think we should punt. I think we should let's punt, 133 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: then he shouldn't be your quarterback. So if you could 134 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: find that guy, go ahead, send him my way. Shardor 135 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: continues to grow and he gets a couple of more opportunities, 136 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: now against the Steelers and then against the Bengals week eighteen, 137 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: down in Cincinnati, and finally Miles Garrett. I really thought 138 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: he was gonna get it. I wanted him to get 139 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: it for a number of reasons. Let's get it over 140 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: with number one, and Miles is the best, and let's 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: sack Josh Alleny at sack Josh once in twenty twenty two, 142 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: when the Browns had played the Bills in that weird 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: Bills home game in Detroit. Buffalo came out as they 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: had come out as other teams have come out recently 145 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: as well, with one intention, and that is prevent Miles 146 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: from getting to Josh Allen. They didn't have to throw 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: the ball in the first half because they were running 148 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: right through the Browns with James Cook coming ground. Didn't 149 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: have to throw it. When James could getting one hundred 150 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: yards in the first half, you don't have to throw 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: the football, not necessary at all. And when they were 152 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: throwing the football, they were moving the pocket away from Miles. 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: Every single snap when they were running football, they put 154 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: a tight end on that side and usually he was 155 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: lining up on the right against the left tackle Dan Dawkins. 156 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: They would put at least one tight end, sometimes two, 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and they were on encounters and cutbacks to the weak side. 158 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: So they were running away from him every single time. 159 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: And when they had to throw, like I said, ran 160 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: away from him, moved the pocket every single time. There 161 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: were no straight dropbacks, I mean at least not the 162 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: first half and the second half of the game got 163 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: a little more interesting. Miles had some opportunities. Josh Allen 164 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: got the ball away. The one that Miles did get 165 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: it was exactly like Chicago, in which we're like, wait 166 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: a minute, who gets the sack? I know, I an 167 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: eagle on TV, said Miles Garrett, because Ian's awesome. But 168 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't Miles sack at first. Clearly Mason Graham got 169 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: there first, and Nathan and I are like, we don't know. 170 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: And much like Chicago, the official NFL scoring system I 171 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: told you about that last week did not post to 172 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: had the sack. It didn't for a while in this game. 173 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: It didn't change it until the third quarter. The third quarter, 174 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: like a half hour later. And then mac Robinson on 175 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: the ones and twos with an odd Christmas jacket earlier 176 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: in the afternoon said, pointed to the TV, it says 177 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: twenty two. And then all of a sudden, we get 178 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: the note from Brown's pr in the press box. Yep, 179 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: they've changed it. They gave him a half sack. I 180 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: wanted him to do it in fifteen games because TJ. 181 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: Watt did it in fifteen games. But here's a message 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: to any stealer fan in your life. Potentially, maybe you 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: guys have to break bread over the holidays. It happens, 184 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: I know, deal with it the best you can. If they say, 185 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: well TJ. Watt did in fifteen and Miles did it 186 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: in sixteen, assuming he gets it in sixteen, just remind 187 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: them and you can go to my Twitter page at 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: ANDREWS Ciciliano shameless plug. I took the research from Aaron Schatz, 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: who invented DVA, one of the kings of analytics. Miles 190 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Garrett had nearly two hundred fewer pass rush snaps than TJ. 191 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: Watt two hundred one eighty three to be specific, at 192 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: about one hundred and thirty fewer than TV star Michael Strahan. 193 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that does matter. It truly doesnt matter. 194 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: By the way, TJ. Great job doing that in fifteen. 195 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: Truly he got his sack twenty two point five in 196 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: Week eighteen in the second quarter when he did it 197 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: a few years ago. However, however, it was game fifteen 198 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: for TJ. 199 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: All right. 200 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: Speaking of the Steelers, when last I saw this week's 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: guest in the bark tank, we were limping through the 202 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: bowels of Soldier Field, Chicago, and neither of us could 203 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: feel our feet. The Browns had just lost to the 204 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Bears in week fifteen and Max Starks was there calling 205 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: the game for ESPN Radio. And I look at Max 206 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: and I'm going, dude, is that like a football injury? 207 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: Is that why you're limping? You never know? Respectful? And 208 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I said, or was that because your feet? Like my 209 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: feet are so cold and I don't have any feeling 210 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: in them that I can't walk? And Max said, it's 211 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: the cold, Max, how are your feet? 212 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: My feet are good now, Andrew and yeah, we had 213 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: to suffer through that. They advertised that there were little 214 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: heaters below the desk, but there was obviously a fallacy completely. 215 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: And that garage door opening that oh my god, that 216 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: seemed to have just trapped nothing but wind and that 217 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: four degree weather was just. 218 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: It was brutal. That was a brutal day in Chicago. 219 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, if anybody has a storage unit, or if like 220 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: you've been walking on the street in New York and 221 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: the bodegas you see with like the garage doors, you know, 222 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: or in front of the you know what I'm saying, 223 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: on the streets in New York, any major city, those 224 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: steel garage doors that they pulled down when they close 225 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: up shop and go home for the day. That's what 226 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: we had as the window down to the field in 227 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: these broadcast booths. And it's not like a window. It 228 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: was just a door and they had to open the 229 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: garage door. It was cold. It was like negative fifteen 230 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: at the wind. It's okay. We love our jobs. We 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: go to football games. We're not complaining. I'm happy to 232 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm happy to hear that your feed are okay. You 233 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: were indoors this past week for the Steelers and the Lions. 234 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: There was a little bit going on in that game. 235 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Let's work backwards. Let's start at the very end. Max. 236 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, I am a Browns fan, not a Steelers fan. 237 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know about the way that Carl Scheffer's made 238 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: the announcement, but I do think it was offensive past 239 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: interference there on Amanas Saint Brown. 240 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree it was. 241 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: There was a clear push off when he came on 242 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: the comeback route. He went pushed Jalen Ramsey back, then 243 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: came back towards a football, then he was stopped short. 244 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: The flag was thrown immediately before the lateral happened. So 245 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: therefore the OPI had happened before the touchdown was finish 246 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: the sequence or whatever however you want to do it, 247 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: because he did complete the toss to Jared Goff, and 248 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: Jared Goff did get into the end zone for the score. 249 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: But you're right, the way that it was explained was 250 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: a little bit choppy and muddled, and they spent a 251 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: while discussing how that was going to I guess how 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: the mechanics of that worked. And so he should not 253 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: have said that the touchdown is good at the beginning, right, 254 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: He should have said that, you know, off the touchdown 255 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't doesn't, doesn't, doesn't happen. 256 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: Asports said on Good Morning Football Today, a lead with 257 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: the news, lead with the news, right, games over, games over. 258 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: Then you want to work backwards. That's fine, but to 259 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: go it is a touchdown, but probably not the way 260 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: to do it, especially when you're talking Alliance fans. Now, 261 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: a couple of seconds before that, the Isaac teslaw PI. Look, 262 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: it's a pick play. Every team runs those pick plays. 263 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they needed to throw that flag. But 264 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: on the coaching point, Max, you know this, you tell 265 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: the rookie receiver or any receiver, but especially the rookie, dude, 266 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: make yourself available to the quarterback. All you gotta do 267 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: is turn your shoulders a little bit, look back at 268 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: your QB, give some kind of indication that you're expecting 269 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: a pass. If you do that, they're not gonna throw 270 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: the flag. 271 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Correct. 272 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: And what was funny was they had ran a number. 273 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: They ran a couple of those in the game earlier. 274 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: The Steelers actually went to the referees complained about to slaw, 275 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: specifically running the pick and not looking at the football, 276 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: and so they kind of let the other ones go. Now, 277 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: granted they called Darneld Washington went on us into Darnold Washington. 278 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: That one I felt like was because just because DJ 279 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: Reid fell down because he ran into a brick wall, 280 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: which was Darnell Washington. 281 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: A lot of guys have fallen running into Darnell Washington. 282 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: They just assumed it was a big guy. 283 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: It's almost like the Shack rule, right, you know, if 284 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: you're if you're running through and Shack's running through, you 285 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: run into him, you figure it has to be a 286 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: blocking file on Shack type of deal. I felt like 287 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: that's what that was for Darnel Washington. And in that moment, 288 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. The coaching point that people are like, oh, 289 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: that wasn't that wasn't a That wasn't a pick. I 290 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: was like, yes, if you don't pretend like you're going 291 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: to catch a pass, it is called a pick, not 292 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: a rub, because right, rub is the legal word. Pick 293 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: is the bad word. And so yeah, that becomes a 294 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: pick when you don't look at the football. Also, and 295 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: I had to learn as a jumbo tight end when 296 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: I played, and we ran a couple of routes with 297 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: with Hines. 298 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: When I was in the formation. 299 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: Or in the route itself, you have to look like 300 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: you're going to catch a pass and just kind of 301 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: body block a guy. 302 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: So we're also the right. So that's why they threw 303 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: that flag in that instance. 304 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Talking to Max Starks here, the former Steeler offensive lineman, 305 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion out does a great job in their 306 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: broadcast booth up there with Rob King and does college 307 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: football games. It does other ESPN Radio NFL games other 308 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: than the Steelers. Maximin last we saw you guys, it 309 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: was Week six, Browns to just come back from London 310 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: jet lag bus trip. I mean, it was a whole thing, 311 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: and the Steelers were running a lot of you know, 312 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: six O linemen and Darnell Washington and Essen's it's seven 313 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: guys out there, let's run the football. How different, if 314 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: at all, is this offense now schematically from the one 315 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: we saw Week six. 316 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've gotten more efficient with it. 317 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: We still run with Spencer Anderson our extra O lineman, 318 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: we still use Darnell Washington. We still deploy those guys 319 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: in a lot of different ways. And in the Lions game, 320 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: I think that's probably one of our most effective running 321 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: games last week, and ran for two hundred and thirty yards. 322 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: We popped two big forty five yard runs with Jalen 323 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: Warren in that game for touchdowns, and the run game 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: was running very efficiently from that aspect. But I think 325 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: what has progressed off of that is we do have 326 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: a more sophisticated passing game off of that, and you 327 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: starting to really see the offense start to kind of gel. 328 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: When you saw it, it was still kind of new. 329 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 2: We had just started doing it. 330 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: I believe in that Minnesota game before the bye, before 331 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: we saw you guys, when we were in Ireland and 332 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 3: we still hadn't figured out the mechanics, and I think 333 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: it was still kind of wonky now because we ran it, 334 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: because we've gotten comfortable with. 335 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: It, everybody kind of knows what their roles are. 336 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: It's now more fluid, and you see a lot more 337 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL kind of using. 338 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: That jumbo style package. 339 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: I mean, the Chargers use it with Scott Matt Locke, 340 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: Baltimore uses it with Patrick Riccard. Even though they want 341 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 3: to try and make him a fullback because they gave 342 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: him a smaller number, He's still an offensive lineman. He's 343 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: still if you did not have him in that role, 344 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: he would be in a three point stance, like he's 345 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: two cheeseburgers over a two point stance, you know what 346 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I think that's where this league has 347 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: kind of shifted in that respect. 348 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Scott matlock in La is truly a defensive tackle. 349 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: He was a defensive tackle, played in the college All 350 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: Star Game that I called at the Rose Ball a 351 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: couple of years ago as a defensive tackle from Boise, 352 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: and then he started playing both ways there with the Chargers. 353 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: The thing with the offense, though that has changed the 354 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: last few weeks, is their ability to hit strikes down field. Really, 355 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: you didn't see that much. You saw the slug o 356 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: to DK where he beat Tyson Campbell week six when 357 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: we were in Pittsburgh, but you saw get stagnant, Max. 358 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: You saw a lot of back shoulder stuff, ball getting 359 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: out quickly, not stretching the field. I mean they had 360 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: like one or none or how many ever passes that 361 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: were twenty or more air yards completed over like the 362 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: span of a month. You get the fire Tomlin stuff going, 363 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden three weeks ago, something changed, Max. 364 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: What changed? 365 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 2: I think the guys finally decided who they wanted to be. 366 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: And I think that's always you always wonder what that 367 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 3: kind of you know, cliche has come to Jesus moment, 368 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 3: but really the reality comes to accountability moment right where 369 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: you have that meeting, you have that closed door session 370 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: with your unit, with your side of. 371 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: The ball, or with the team in general. 372 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: I think the guys just finally just had enough and said, Hey, 373 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: if you're not going to do your job, you don't 374 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: need to be in here, right, you know, trying to 375 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: get on the moving train. 376 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: If you don't want to be on the train, get 377 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: off the train. 378 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: If you want to get on it, you've got to 379 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: do the extra one of the things I thought that 380 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: was very telling after that Buffalo game. I don't know 381 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: if you remember, Aaron Rodgers came in the postgame press conference. 382 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: It was like, hey, if we have film session, you 383 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 3: need to be at the film session. Some guys are 384 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: not at the film session. Well, I think guys have 385 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: now showed up to the film session. I think that's 386 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 3: why you're seeing more deep strikes. That's why I think 387 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: you're seeing the middle of the field kind of be 388 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: tested a lot more with the route concepts, some of 389 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: the quick game that Aaron likes to run. And defensively, 390 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, they just said who's tired of getting run on? 391 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 3: Who's tired of being an embarrassing defense? And even without TJ. 392 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: Watt the last couple of weeks, the run defense has 393 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: been awesome. I mean, you're talking about holding down devon 394 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: a chain to an insignificant amount of yards. Considered that 395 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: the Miami at the time was averaging one hundred and 396 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 3: ninety two yards a game rushing in that four win 397 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: streak span. And then you go and take on the 398 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: number one offense in the entire NFL in Detroit and 399 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: you held them to fifteen total rushing yards. 400 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: That's absurd. 401 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 3: Those two, that's an absurd number against Jamier Gibbs, arguably 402 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: what top three running back in this league. So they've 403 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 3: definitely taken it upon themselves to take pride in their 404 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: work and it's showing in the last three weeks. 405 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to Aaron and Miles here. So 406 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: when the Browns were their Week six, they didn't get 407 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. That game was wonky. Not blaming it 408 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: on jet lag, but Dylan Gabriel and the tackles are 409 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and the Steelers brought the house. Let's flush that 410 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: one out. Much different situation now, should ors the quarterback, 411 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: but Miles is now gun in for that twenty two 412 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: point five. He is half a sack away from the 413 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: twenty two point five the record the tj and that 414 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan held. I don't know if you've watched the 415 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: tape yet for the Browns and the Bills, but they 416 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: had a tight end over Miles every single time they 417 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: gashed them on the ground in the first half. They 418 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: didn't have to throw the ball in the first half 419 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: at all, so there were no sack opportunities. But every 420 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: time Josh Allen did throw the ball, they moved the 421 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: pocket to the right. Everything was a rollout away from 422 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. There were times as well in the run 423 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: game where they would put two tight ends over Garrett. 424 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: They would go twelve personnel and then they would run 425 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: counters or cutbacks or just weak side runs away from Miles. 426 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: Nothing was adam whatsoever. Miles Garrett has never sacked Aaron Rodgers. 427 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: Max He has spoken openly with a smile on his 428 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: face about how badly he would like to sack Aaron Rodgers. 429 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: What do the Steelers do this week so that Aaron 430 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: doesn't get himself in that highlight video? 431 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: I think one of the things that they're gonna do 432 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 3: and so he doesn't have his other former Green Bay 433 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: Packer moment with a record being saite like Barvid straight 434 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 3: In is you have you have to do exactly what 435 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: you said you've got. You've got to be able to 436 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: run a lot of a lot of successful run plays. 437 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Limit the opportunities for third and longs where we would 438 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 3: normally pass, and make sure that you're in the third, 439 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: the medium third, the short range, so you have everything 440 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: available to you and it's going to be chip blocks 441 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: it's going to be additional lineman. I mean, we're gonna 442 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: treat Miles Garrett just like we treat TJ Watt, right, 443 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: and what every other team treats TJ. You've got to 444 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 3: have multiple guys affecting him, and you have to funnel 445 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 3: his pass lane and you know, and we have, let's 446 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: face it, we have Dylan Cook our fourth string left 447 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: tackle at left tackle. Nice play great the last last 448 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: two weeks, and he's going to give some good players. 449 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 3: But he still gave up a sack to Aiden Hutchinson 450 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: last week. He didn't give Bradley Chubb anything. But that's 451 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: that's the risk you're running against because let's face it, 452 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett is a different breed, and Miles Garrett is 453 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: a power is a power rusher that has relentless effort 454 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: and relentless energy. So you don't want to put a 455 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: guy in there, and essentially it becomes a bench press contest. 456 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: That's like you're going to lose against Miles Garrett. So 457 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: you're gonna need to have Darnel Washington chipping or blocking 458 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 3: along with Dylan Cook. 459 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna need Jalen Warren, Kenneth Gainwell running. 460 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: Chips when it is open side week side and Miles 461 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: gets in that cock four point stance, You're going to 462 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 3: need to do something to take something off of him 463 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: then prevent that. And I don't think we necessarily are 464 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 3: gonna have to roll away from him and use moving pocket. 465 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: But the quick game and. 466 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: Multiple bodies what's going to be key to stopping him 467 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: and to preventing him from taking that record in Ackerscher Stadium. 468 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: And Aaron doesn't want to get hit, not that any 469 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: quarterback wants to get hit, please don't get me wrong, 470 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: But there is a moment in your game on Sunday 471 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: where late in the game he threw it away rather 472 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: than taking a sack and letting the clock run, He's 473 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: getting rid of that ball. And part of that is age. 474 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: Part of that is being being wise and having great 475 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: pocket awareness. But I don't know that I've ever seen 476 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback that's like, no, you're not going to sack me. 477 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I will throw it at the feet 478 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: of an old lineman if it means avoiding getting sacked. 479 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well you know when you when you're forty 480 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: two years old and you see a lot of sacks, 481 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: your brittle you know, and he's already he's already battled 482 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: through a wrist injury that he did. He missed zero 483 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: time for you know, he knows what his mortality is. 484 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: He understood what that. 485 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: First four plays of his New York Jets career look like. 486 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: And right now he's got an opportunity to do something 487 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 3: special this season with the Steelers. So he's not risking 488 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: any mortal harm. And that's what it would be if 489 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett gets damn, it is mortal harm. 490 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're gonna get rid of the football. 491 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: And that's what's also allowed him to play every game 492 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 3: this season. He has not missed any significant time, you know, 493 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: in the season. Yes, Mason Rudolph's gone in and had 494 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 3: you know, some of the end time games. But the 495 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: guy started every game this season and that's a feat 496 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: for somebody forty plus. 497 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: That doesn't happen that often. So he wants to keep 498 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: that intact. 499 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, and when he did get hurt, it was on 500 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: a sack, as he said, he got blindsided by Joey 501 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Bosa there and took the ball away and he got hurt. 502 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: And he has been able to battle back because at 503 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: that time against the bills. As you said, he walked 504 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: into the podium, walked up to the podium afterwards, and 505 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people thought it was over, 506 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: like he's hurt, this team is losing. They were channing 507 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: what they were channing, they were booing renegade, and it 508 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: was over. Clearly it is not over, and we're set 509 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: to meet again week seventeen, Max, And they got a 510 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: lot of travel here. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you 511 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: and the family. Be safe, safe travels and cannot wait 512 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: to see you week seventeen in Cleveland. 513 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: My friend in a warmer booth too. 514 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: Hey, we keep our windows open, but our heat works. 515 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: It was not warm yesterday against the bills, but our 516 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: heat worked. It's a much much healthier work environment. My friend. 517 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely happy, Happy holidays, Andrew. 518 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: Thank you too, the great Max Starks everybody. And if 519 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: you're wondering, Andrew, why didn't you ask about number four 520 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: and the dude at the blue wig, Because we're recording 521 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: this on Monday afternoon and at this hour looking am 522 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: I watch. We have no decision or any anything from 523 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: the League office in regards to discipline or any kind 524 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: of announcement as to that incident. We all agree in 525 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: Max and I talked about it off the air. I'm 526 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: not talking out of school here, that it was unfortunate. 527 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't put your hands on fans. 528 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: And for anyone saying, oh, they shoed them out from 529 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: New York, yeah, I mean, I understand your argument, but 530 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: there was no flag on the play. If there was 531 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a flag on the play and there was an illegal 532 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: hid and there's a fifteen yard penalty, has the league 533 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: ever gotten in your ear and gone like like, okay, 534 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: that's an inject that's an injectable offense. Yeah, that's a 535 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: different conversation. This is this gray area here, and that 536 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen now that it had been a 537 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: far more violent incident, right and there are multiple angles 538 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: that's actually what happened. Not defending it at all. Then 539 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: maybe then the league gets involved, and maybe the authorities 540 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: getting involved at that point. But either way, let's do 541 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: what sizzling descent of Bi Sugar deal in which we 542 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: go around the APC North. This is a division game 543 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: this week, so we just checked the box on the Steelers. 544 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: As for the Ravens, they no longer control their destiny 545 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to the postseason, and I did that 546 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: use the phrase control their destiny just to get it 547 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: out there, to set up the fact that I hate 548 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: that phrase and it doesn't make sense. Destiny, by definition, 549 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: is predetermined, fate is predetermined. You cannot control your own destiny. 550 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: By definition, it is uncontrollable. It has already decided. That said, 551 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: the Ravens did control their destination, and their destination if 552 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: they had won all three games, would have been to 553 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: stay at home as division champion and host a playoff 554 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: game Wildcard Weekend. They no longer control their own destination 555 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: because they lost on Sunday Night, a game in which 556 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson took a need to the back late in 557 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: the second quarter and three times Brown's preseason captain Snoop 558 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Huntley had to finish the game. The Ravens lost that 559 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: game to the Patriots. Patriots are in the postseason and 560 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: now the Ravens need to win out and the Steelers 561 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: need to lose a game like to the Browns potentially 562 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Week seventeen. So, in his nineteenth season with the Ravens, 563 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh has his team now under five hundred and 564 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: having to answer questions both Sunday night and Monday about 565 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: why it was Keaton Mitchell starting that final drive for 566 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens when they turned the ball over and not 567 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Derek Henry on the field, Zay Flowers with the fumble, 568 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: calevon chas On, who we saw up in New England 569 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: when the Brons lost up there to the Patriots in Foxborough, 570 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: playing well, he was the one who forced the fumble. 571 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: As for the Bengals, good to see t Higgins on 572 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: a personal level okay, and back on the field. T 573 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Higgins had flown midweek to Pittsburgh last week to get 574 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: checked out and get a second opinion on his most 575 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: recent concussion. Imagine that if you could, again on a 576 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: human level, flying somewhere to see a doctor to tell 577 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: you whether or not it's okay to play football, or 578 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: whether or not you're going to suffer a permanent brain injury, 579 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: that has to be disconcerting for anyone, especially this time 580 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: but the year, especially when it's your livelihood. He was 581 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: good to go. The Bengals won, and they got a 582 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: big win over the Dolphins, who have now lost consecutive 583 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: games to AFC North teams. On Monday night to the 584 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: Steelers in Pittsburgh and then on the short week back 585 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: at home to the Bengals, Joe Burrow looked like the 586 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: old Joe Burrow and at least for now things sing 587 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: normal in since that is the rest of the AFC 588 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: North what Cizlin presented by Sugardale the division that will 589 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: this year put only one team in the postseason. It 590 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: was not too long ago that we were saying this 591 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: is the best division of football. Three teams could get 592 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: in and that was something that happened, not any more. 593 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: On a final note, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. It was 594 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: the final night of Hanukah Sunday night. If Honkkah is 595 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: the holiday you celebrate, hope the final night was a 596 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: fantastic night for you and yours and that everyone has 597 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a great holiday week, Christmas and anything you are celebrating 598 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: with family. Be nice to each other. As I said 599 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the broadcast on Sunday, it's that 600 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: time of the year to be thankful, be grateful, spend 601 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: it with your family, give everybody a nice hug, and 602 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: look forward to what hopefully is a great, great twenty 603 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: twenty six. The people to thank here in the Browns 604 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: building do not change, especially our producer who is right 605 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: now standing on the other side of this camera inside 606 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: the Cross Country Morgan Campus. That is the great Gabe Clore. 607 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: You should be nice to him as well. When you 608 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: watch CBD and you see him in the background or 609 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: you hear him sometimes, you know, get on the microphone 610 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: and add to that show. It needs more voices. It 611 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: needs people like the Great cheap Man. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas. 612 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm andrews cciliano. We will see you back at Huntington 613 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 1: bank Field on Sunday when Miles Garrett gets the record 614 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: and the Browns beat Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers.