1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Ashley and I are back and 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: we are ecstatic for this podcast. This is a special podcast. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't plan on putting a podcast out today, but 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation is blowing up. It's all over the news. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Everything's crazy. I have people like my grandma, my aunt, 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: my mother, friends on the street knowing what in the 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: world is going on with the Bachelor. There's got to 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: be something in that Bachelor water because everybody's in the news. 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: The one person that is also in the news of 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: my coast actually Ike and Eddie. Ashley. Your parents, Yes, 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: the parents unite for the first time. How was it. 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to call that breaking news, but 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: it was very important news for happening for Jared and myself. Um, 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: and it went so well. It was crazy. When they 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: first met, well, we always knew that they were going 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: to get along splendidly, but from the first dinner I 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: could just see it in my parents eyes and his 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: parents eyes that they just loved each other. My mom 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: like almost cried saying goodbye to his mom today. It 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: was adorable. Um, and we had four five straight family 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: dinners together. Not one awkward silence, so much talking and 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: they connected so well. It was amazing. Were you worried 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: at all going into this about like kind of the 25 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: dynamic or the awkward silence? And I mean, this is 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: that's a big step, a huge step. I wish for 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: entertainment sake that I could say that we were anxious 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: about it, but we weren't at all. They have very 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: we were raised in very similar families, just like very nurturing, 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: fun loving, warm, funny parents, and they just bonded really well. 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: Can we get one really good story at first? Off, 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: how did Lauren, your sister handle this whole thing? Uh? 33 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Which did she handle it? Well? We had her boyfriend 34 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: came because her sister, my sister's birthday is today. Uh 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: so she wanted to have her boyfriend of course on 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: the cruise, and because she would have been legit the 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: ninth wheel without him, of course he came. Because then 38 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: we also had Jared's sister, Shannon and her now husband. 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: They got married last week on the cruise and so 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: there were ten ten people, five couples. Lauren had met 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Jared's parents before and she neither are going to get 42 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: along well, she um she had a great time. She's 43 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: very comfortable with his parents too, which is really nice 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: because Lawrence basically my find me swin and always with me. 45 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Is is this the boyfriend that Lauren has that wear sunglasses? 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Yessses up a lot this time. No way, it was great. 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: It was such a good man. Yeah, good for him. Well, Astley, 48 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm ecstatic for you. I know that even though you 49 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: say you're not anxious, I I believe you. But that 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: is a big step in a relationship. And uh and 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: I feel like from here on out, I mean, what 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: other large kind of I guess benchmarks do you need 53 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: to get passed and up into the wedding day? Um, 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: when you do officially book the wedding, which I think 55 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: was probably going to be doing this week. My dad 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't stuff without him. We 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: have to just spend it. The check and that we 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: should have the venue locked down in an official day. Um. 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: The other nice thing about your parents getting along is 60 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: we could actually do holidays jointly, you know which My 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: parents can come up to an island for Christmas and 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: they can come down to Virginia for Thanksgiving. That's really 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: nice because a lot of people have to choose which 64 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: family to go to. But that was feeling that my 65 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: family is going to actually want to hang out with 66 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: the hay Bends more. Uh, this is just a love 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: story that keeps on giving. 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There was yeah grumbling for a 112 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: couple of months now, but now it is confirmed. And 113 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: Joe is now on Dancing with the Stars and his 114 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: lady Kendall. Is he hard to talk about both things? 115 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Let's get Kendall on the line. Hello, Hello, Kendall, Hello there, 116 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: how are you loving? Good? Evens on the line as well, 117 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: and we just want to on your love story. Thank 118 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: you so much? Story actually, but you say what long story? 119 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: It is a very crazy one. The crazy ones turn 120 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: out the best in a long run, I think. So 121 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: you can officially like challenge yourselves and almost go through 122 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years of experience within a couple months. 123 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: So it's been fun. It seems like you and Joe 124 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: have definitely done that. Now he's living in l A. Yeah, 125 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: it's great for you. Are you trying to help him 126 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: along with his dancing skill so he gets to stay 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: in l A as much as possible? Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely. 128 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: He's it's really cute because he's actually like putting so 129 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: much of himself into it, which I didn't expect because 130 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: he's this guy is literally never danced before. I can 131 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: barely get him to dance, and so now that he 132 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: found out he was drinking at the starts, he's completely 133 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: its embracing it, which is so awesome. And so yeah, 134 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I practiced some of this that worked with him. It's 135 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: it's your love story, I mean, just so everybody knows 136 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: out there, Joe the Grocer or Joe kindled guy uh 137 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: from Bachelor period. I was announced to be on Dance 138 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: with the Stars, which is a huge deal considering a 139 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: guy that gets sent home night one. Still shocking. I 140 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: don't know how that happens, um but great for Kendall 141 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: gets announced to be on Dance with the Stars, which 142 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: is a big deal. We also this year's cast on 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Dance of the Stars is Alexis wren of On A Lynch, 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Nicky Glazer, John Schneider, Mary lou Rhette, and DeMarcus where 145 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Bobby Bones, Danielle I'stead Wampablo the Passy, Joe the Grocer, Tannascy, 146 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: Nancy McKeon, Millow, Milo Mannheim, geez, I'm not good anyways. 147 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: Um Kendall, I'm so intrigued by your love story. I 148 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: found myself and I know you as a person a 149 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: little bit so frustrated with you, uh relating with you 150 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: at times. You took us through a roller coaster ride 151 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: and and America reacted to it. Okay, So we got 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: to see that play out. What happened post show that 153 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: made you say, yeah, Joe, you are my guy. I 154 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: think the crazy thing is you you go on paradise 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: if only a couple of weeks, so you don't really 156 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: know someone fully. And so after Chicago when we met up, um, 157 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: we weren't really official until the next couple of times 158 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: that we had bet each other. So he had flown 159 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: to l a Um and he came for a ben 160 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: tell all and we had hung out at that point. 161 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: And I think it was when I was driving him home. 162 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: While driving him to the airport, that really cheesy song 163 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: came on about not wanting someone to leave. I remember 164 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: crying in the car and he was comforting me, and 165 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: they're just weird. I remember thinking that he actually extended 166 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: his trips. I remember thinking that this might be the 167 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: last time, can actually be together. So it's just really sad, 168 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: and I think there was something about saying goodbye that 169 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: made us really not want to but actually really want 170 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: to work on it. And so, um, I think he 171 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: called me when I was He called me a couple 172 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: of days later and he but you know, we can't 173 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: not be together. It each try and because it distant 174 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: is something that really scared us. And so you know, 175 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: I was like a percent in and I think we 176 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: just decided to be a hunder and since then, So 177 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: my question is when you guys were like just when 178 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you kind of broke up with him in the finale week, 179 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: was it just because then the word engagement was thrown 180 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: around because I think that you're ready to like maybe 181 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: be boyfriend girlfriend with him, but you definitely didn't want 182 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: him to propose. And I think that's completely understandable and 183 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: very very normal. Yeah, then you may have not looked 184 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: the greatest on the show, but mainly this isn't that moment. 185 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: But mainly it's because you were freaked out by engagement, right, Um, 186 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: it's definitely the engagement part. I think I was also 187 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: freaked out trying to figure out if the relationship can 188 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: actually work into the real world because we see off 189 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: the side of the country and both of us are 190 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: very invested in our friends and family and work and 191 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: so um, I've never had a long disis relationship, so 192 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: really freaked me out, Like I had absolutely no idea 193 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: how I would be able to do that, and UM, 194 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he did either. We're thinking maybe l 195 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: a UM, and I just allowed the doubt to kind 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: of get in my head. I mean, as you guys know, 197 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: like grow so many days you're not you don't hang 198 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: out with a person at all. So that night I 199 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: went to bed with a lot of fears, all the 200 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: questions that I didn't really have answers to, and then 201 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: the entire next day I just allowed those to kind 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: of infest my mind, and by the time night hit, 203 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: I just was kind of a feeling like I made 204 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: up my mind and had made the right decision. And 205 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: I think as soon as I made that decision and 206 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: talked to him about it, I instantly regretted it. And 207 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: it was almost as if you don't know how to 208 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: go back once he's committed to something, so honestly, honestly, 209 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: I think from somebody who's been in paradise and knows 210 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: exactly the way it works. Like you mentioned, you don't 211 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: get to see that person during the day. You literally 212 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: go um like sundown to sundown without seeing them, and 213 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot different. And when I was watching it, 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I know what she's looking like on TV, 215 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: but I also know what she's springing out about and 216 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: think this is how I am someone that own things everything. 217 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: So when it came to that point, I definitely mi 218 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: mind is my worst enemy, and so I allowed it 219 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: to kind of take over, which was something that I 220 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: shouldn't have done. Kindle, I'm just like a lot of 221 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: the country. I really loved your love story with Joe 222 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: because I felt like it was it was real, like 223 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: you could just see two people who are trying to 224 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: be authentic, who are trying to be honest, who are 225 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: trying to make this weird like months of Paradise work. Uh. 226 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: But yet also I kind of and and this is 227 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: what I could have been wrong. And I'm just a 228 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: fan of you, so I don't really know what I 229 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: just you know, watch I felt like it was so 230 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: serious to you that you didn't want the kind of 231 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: aura or whatever the expectations of Paradise to affect some 232 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: think that could be really great, and so I respected 233 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of you pulling back, not for the 234 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: breakup piece of it, but just because, like you said, 235 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: this could be something really special. And my question for 236 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: you now is now, do you guys off the show 237 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: you've met back up again? Do you believe this could 238 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: be something very special? Oh? Definitely, definitely. It's so crazy 239 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: how well I feel like are relation to exercited because 240 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: of Paradise, but apparently keep using knowing each other pretty well. 241 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: But it was afterwards that complete like leaps the bound 242 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, so I think it's actually exercising in the 243 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: real world. Is being able to be him in his 244 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: element in Chicago and be in my element in Los Angeles. 245 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing that I really needed in order to 246 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: take the risks to be like this kind of relationship 247 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: is definitely worth it. I didn't want to be in 248 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Laila Land with the whole seeing each other every day 249 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: in Paradise on the beach, you know, with like Saty 250 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: food and Margarita's, Like I think that was I didn't 251 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: want to be stuck in that world. I let's test 252 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: it out. The don't want you know, it's interesting, could 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: didn't offend you. Go no, no asked, please, I am. 254 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: I think all my questions about the relationship are answered. 255 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: I I was a little frustrated with your kindle. You 256 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: didn't come off bad. You know. Actually I both think 257 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: that last moment was not your best moment, but it was. 258 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: It was real. It tore you up a bit. I 259 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: just wanted to know because I haven't been on paradise 260 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: and and I want to see you and Joe do well, 261 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: uh you know whatever that means, um, and so I 262 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: just want to know kind of what led to this 263 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: moment now where you're looking at him again and saying, hey, 264 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you're my person. I think that's awesome. So, um, actually 265 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: take it away. I was gonna say that sometimes the 266 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: bachelor bubble is the best point of your relationship, and 267 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: then some sometimes people are even stronger outside it, and 268 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: those are the amazing relationships, not really, you know, obviously 269 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: are successful. So it sounds like you and Joe are 270 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: on the right track actually by flourishing the real world. Anyway, 271 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: I want to move on from that and talk about 272 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: how your friend Becca m is now pregnant. I know, 273 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I found out. I literally found out 274 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: right before I went on Paradise, and I didn't know. 275 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: She just told me she was pregnant, and I didn't 276 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: know if she was gonna keep it or what was 277 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: going to happen. And then I went to through through 278 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: the entire season of Paradise and then came back and 279 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: she told me that she was keeping the baby, and 280 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: I was just so excited for her because it's you know, 281 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: she's just such a nurturing, a nurturing spirit, and she 282 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: put so much of love and thought into everything that 283 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: she does. So I'm just excited to see I don't know, 284 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: her engraced in like taking care of a baby. I 285 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: think there was gonna be a great parents. Is this 286 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: the boyfriend that she's had since February Marching? Yes, yeah 287 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: he is. He's so great. And was she going to 288 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: um not keep Paradise because she was in a committed 289 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: relationship before she found out to your pregnant. Um? Yeah, 290 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: so that was because of the reason. I'm I think 291 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of other reasons why she decided that 292 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: to do Paradise, but that was definitely one of the 293 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: main reasons because she had recently met Graceton and although 294 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the relationship was very new, it was growing, and they 295 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: feel like that was something that she wanted to experience 296 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: and not throw it away just to you know, go 297 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: on a show. And I also feel like she wanted 298 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: to kind of separate herself from the bachelor world as well. 299 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: Do you think I mean going into this however it 300 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: worked out? Um, is this something that she celebrated right away? 301 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Did the scare or is this like the next good 302 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: best step for for Rebecca and her grace? And I 303 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah, I can imagine. I mean I 304 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: can imagine it's terrifying, you know, going into a whole 305 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: new life because your life takes such a one a 306 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: d after having a child that you go from being 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: you know selfisher focusing on yourself to putting everything you 308 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: have into a child. So I definitely think it's like 309 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: an amazing step for them because they're already just such 310 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: a funny couple and they have a lot of the 311 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: same They have a lot of differences, but they have 312 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities and I think that's where that's 313 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: going to shine with, you know, having a child. So 314 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited. Is the little family, you know, Grayson was 315 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: like opening up a rock gym They're like they're kind 316 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: of like a tipster, you know, cute couple. I love it. 317 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: I I don't know, this is so cool. This whole week, 318 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Kendall has been I mean, as you probably realate, is 319 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: like I been insane when it comes to Bachelor news 320 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: and and and you know, Joe obviously getting announced on 321 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: the Dance with the Stars is a big deal. I'm 322 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: sure you're gonna be sitting in the audience clapping him on. 323 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: And then the second news, Um, you know, some of 324 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the news was celebrated or some of the news was 325 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: worthy of celebration. Some you know, beg us to ask 326 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: more questions, but we are ecstatic. Rebecca, Uh, this is 327 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: a really really cool thing. And uh and it feels 328 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: like she has a lot of support out there from 329 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: all the ladies on your season. Have you all stayed 330 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: pretty close? Yeah? Yeah, It's crazy how we've all been 331 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: able to, you know, be very close. I mean, I 332 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: know that's sanon. Becca and I live in Los Angeles, 333 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: so easy for us to you know, see each other 334 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: all the time. And we're planning because you know, baby 335 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: shower right now. But I'm also um trying to keep 336 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: in touch with everybody else that's you know, all around 337 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the country, like I just um went to see Jackline 338 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: and New York and so, um yeah, it's an amazing 339 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: group of people and we've all been through similar things, 340 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: so we find so much comfort in handling, you know, 341 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: the ups and downs of everything that this experience is. 342 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: And my last question, Kendall is how is Tia dealing 343 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: with um Colvin be the next Bachelor? Oh? It is great. 344 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: I mean, she's very supportive. I think that they decided to. 345 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, of course they're like finally on the same page, 346 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: which is amazing. And I think that, um, they have 347 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot of care and love for each other and 348 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: it's not romantic, but I think it's very much like 349 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: a very strong friendship. So um yeah, she's been nothing 350 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: but supportive from it. I I wonder if watching him though, 351 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: it is gonna be hard or can we can? Can 352 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: we confirmed that Tia has not gone on Colton season 353 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: not that I know, I'm not that I know of, 354 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: but I mean I cannot give be extremely difficult to watch. 355 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: You know, your ex boyfriends kis seeing other people. I 356 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: know that, you know. My excellence of the contacted me 357 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: has been like you know, it's weird watching you to 358 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Even if you do, you just have a 359 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: friendship with them. So I don't know, maybe you should 360 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: watch it, maybe not, but yeah, what a crazy, crazy 361 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: world we all live in. Hey, uh, Kendall, thanks for 362 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: joining us. Say it's awesome. Congratulations to Joe. Please pass 363 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: on the good word to him. Uh, nice little hugs 364 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: from the Almost Famous podcast. We'll be excited to uh 365 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: watch you and the audience cheering him on and kindle. 366 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: They're great keeping you and we look forward to talking 367 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: to soon a you t Thanks bye bye. Actually, dancing 368 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: is a terrific workout. Um. I have a feeling that 369 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: the grocery is gonna get even better looking and in 370 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: better shape post Dance with the Stars. Uh. You know 371 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, but I used to not 372 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: being the best to shape. I still don't consider myself 373 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: in the best to shape, but I'm in good shape. 374 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: I work out a lot. But one of the ways 375 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: I got back into shape and I continue to stay 376 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: in shape. And I mean this is beach Body. Uh. 377 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: It's funny when beach Body came to the podcast and 378 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, we love your podcast. We want to 379 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: like sponsor your podcast. I said, I'm a big fan 380 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: of you all. 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You still look good at I saw all 406 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: these videos on Instagram of you trying to do I 407 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: don't know what it was like, put your pull your 408 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: shorts off or something, and you're you and your sister 409 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: are moving hearing butt sizes or something something like super great. 410 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, Beachbody also gives you nutrition help. Success doesn't 411 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: just happen in the gym, So beach Body on the 412 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: Man has tools to help make eat right easier. There 413 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: are dozens of easy to follow meal planes and hundreds 414 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: of delicious recipes. Work out on your schedule. 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I'm like, what's the compliment and what's not? 431 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: But you and your sister both are doing these videos 432 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: where like you're trying to get your shorts off. Are 433 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you saying like, hey, like my booty is too big, 434 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: like this is a good thing? Or is like are 435 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: you joking? What's what's happening here? I just was truly 436 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: showing a big butt struggle. Okay, that's a struggle. That's 437 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: the real thing. My waist is small enough for my 438 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: shorts to handle, but my butt is not. Okay with 439 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: the waste situation on my shorts, like if that makes 440 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: any sense. But that's a girl issue. It's like, and 441 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: it's probably a good issue to have the small waist 442 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: and a big booty. I mean, actually, I do a 443 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: lot of squads. What if it's an issue I have. 444 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: I Yeah, I think I've got. I think I've got. 445 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm working on on my my fitness, so I've been 446 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of beach body. I do 447 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: a lot of squats in there. Um. Sometimes when I 448 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: stand in front of the mirror before I get in 449 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: the shower, I flex real hard and I feel like 450 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. 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Yeah, 487 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: it's it's wild that Disney movies can spark such an interest. 488 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: And and during that segment, we brought up somebody that 489 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: I met in Iowa at a Zack Johnson. Uh, Zack 490 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: Johnson Foundation golf tournament. Uh, he's a good Ira boy. 491 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: He has a lot of cool stuff going on right now. 492 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: He's coming on the podcast. One of Ashley's favorites, one 493 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: of my favorites, Riley Smith. Riley, are you out there? Ah? 494 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: What's up y'all? Hi? It's been three years since I 495 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: saw you backstage to the I Heart Festival and I 496 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that from Motocross and I think he 497 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: may be forming with me. Yeah, I mean that's just 498 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: how I say hello. But you should have told me 499 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: that you that you knew me. Well, I don't know 500 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: what it doesn't say motocross. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't stop 501 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: anybody else. I was gonna say, I mean, Riley, how 502 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: does that feel? I mean, you've done a ton uh 503 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: since Motocross. But it's funny because we did this whole 504 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: segment on Disney movies on this podcast from way back 505 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: in the day, and we had probably the best response 506 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: we've ever had on this podcast. I mean we have 507 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, like hundreds of thousands of listens every week, 508 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: and I felt like we've got hundreds of thousands of 509 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: responses on favorite Disney movies. Your name was brought up 510 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: over and over against it. For all the work that 511 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: you've done today, this generation still remembers you for motocross. 512 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: How how is that? It's funny if anybody that knows 513 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: me kind of makes makes fun of it. Uh, tolling 514 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: in too, because you're right, like, I think I've been 515 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: doing this twenty years and almost like eighty projects or 516 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: something like that, and uh, I mean literally every single 517 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: day someone stops me and says motocross, And uh. I 518 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: would say, if if I had never worked again, I 519 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: would probably be really bitter. But because you know, life 520 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: went on and I kept working. It's it's it's cool. 521 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't mind it at all. I actually embrace it, 522 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: um because when you start, when you start acting, I 523 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: guess you would be, you know, ecstatic if you could 524 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: have a movie that touched the generation and left the 525 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: left the handprint on an entire generation. We didn't expect 526 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: that when we made the movie, but I don't think 527 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even though I never I've never watched Disney before. 528 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what it was. I was just 529 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: happy to get a job and then uh, and then 530 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: one day it came out and at that time, like 531 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't even go out in public. It was nuts. 532 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, boy band status and uh 533 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: and so it was crazy. But but now it's like 534 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: it's sweet. Like when people talk about it, like I'll 535 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: talk back about it and uh, embrace it. It's I 536 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: think it's fine. Well, I mean, you're gonna be known 537 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: that your icon that came out of my mouth. But 538 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: like when it comes to heart throbs, you're one of 539 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: the like early two thousand heart throbs, and I mean 540 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: that's not a bad reputation to have. I guess not. 541 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, now my goal is to just 542 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: find something in the coming years that replaces that you 543 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: know that people will talk about for another twenty years. Um. 544 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: So that's that's what drives you. I guess what are 545 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: you working on now that, uh, that you think could 546 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: be have that potential? Or I know, when when we 547 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: were in Highway together it's Zach Johnson Foundation Doc tournament, 548 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: everybody was talking about some of these new projects that 549 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: you had coming up. Is there anything that you want 550 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: to share with our listeners that you're super excited about. Oh? Man, well, 551 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: you never know what it's going to be, that's the thing. 552 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: And so I don't ever go into taking a job 553 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: because it's you know, social status potential or I mean, 554 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: I always try to take a job for the script. 555 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Then hopefully that translates and then maybe that will connect 556 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: and resonate and maybe that'll be the next motocross. But 557 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: now I don't know. Right now, in Chicago, I'm really 558 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: excited about this new show I just started called Proven Innocent. 559 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's the new show. It's gonna be on 560 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: Fox coming in January. We um just started shooting it. 561 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: Where I'm on my way to work right now, actually 562 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: in the car. We're going to uh somewhere in the Burbs. 563 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: But UM, but we're filming now. We're on the second 564 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: episode and it's cool. It's Kelsey Grammer. UM, a really 565 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: great actress named Rochelle Lefer plays my sister and uh, 566 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: it's about a group of people who defend wrongfully convicted people. UM, 567 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: my sister and I on the show. We're wrongfully confused, 568 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: convey to a murder and spent ten years in prison 569 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: and then released and so now we're kind of fighting 570 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: the good fight for other people like us. And I 571 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: think it's a really hot topic right now. Like I 572 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: love all the datelines and the Polizon's and the podcast, 573 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: so I'm like addicted to that kind of stuff, so 574 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: that my biggest fear in life is being literally somebody 575 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: knocked on the door and arresting me for something I 576 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: didn't do. And so when the script came along and 577 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: it was to play that exact guy, like, I passed 578 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: on everything else to take this job. So excited about it. 579 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: Hopefully this will take off, but I just keep doing 580 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: them until until one does, until one becomes the next motocross. 581 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: That sounds like an amazing show, though, I'm definitely going 582 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: to watch in Uman you and UM for all the 583 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: girls who do, and we'll always think of you as 584 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: their hearts drops from the early two thousands. Are you 585 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: still sing off? I am? I am currently still single. 586 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: I guess it's you know, it's always complicated, but I am. 587 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: Uh oh, it's always complicated. So you should probably go 588 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: over to the help I Second Dating podcast and do 589 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: a little segment with them as well. Okay, all right, um, 590 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's so funny that I've also had met 591 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: both of you guys at different times and then you 592 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: had this podcast. I had a friend from New York 593 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: that I hadn't talked to forever and she hit me 594 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: up on text. I was like, I'm not even sure 595 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: this is still your number, but Ben and Ashley are 596 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: talking about you on their podcast and it's really cute 597 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, no way. So that's why I TechEd, 598 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like we need to 599 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: talk to Yeah. It's uh dude, I'm so happy you did. 600 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: It's it's hilaric. You've been awesome for anybody out there listening. Um, 601 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, we get to do this event in Iowa 602 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: every year for a buddy of ours who plays on 603 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: the on the tour and uh Zack. Every year when 604 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I show up. He always mentioned that Riley's there. He goes, hey, 605 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: Riley dropped everything he was doing. He took off work 606 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: and he came out to Iowa, which is where you're from. Uh, 607 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: before Zack in this foundation to support education, um in 608 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: the secret areas. So man, you're you're a great dude. 609 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: And and before we send you off here, I want 610 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: to know your twenty two or twenty three when motocross 611 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: came out? Correct? Yeah? I think? So what is it like? 612 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, because what we like to do on this 613 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: podcast is kind of, uh, break down the barriers and 614 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: make people feel related or at least relate a little 615 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: bit to the people that they love and the people 616 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: that that they feel. Our celebrities, what was it like 617 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: for you as a twenty two or twenty three year 618 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: old person to be considered America's heart throb? And how 619 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: does that impact your life today? Wow? Good question. Um. 620 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: I guess sometimes when it's happening, you don't even it. 621 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't register. It's not it doesn't feel real and 622 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: it it shouldn't feel real for a lot of people 623 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: in that situation and for me, Uh, we didn't expect it. 624 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: And then the movie came out and then literally it 625 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: happens overnight, and I remember being that young. Just me personally, 626 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: the way I deal with it is I kind of 627 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: run and hide. Um. It actually almost makes me sad 628 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: because it's so overwhelming. When you don't under it doesn't register. 629 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: It's not it shouldn't be, it shouldn't feel real. And 630 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: I think when it finally does, then things really changed. 631 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: So um, you know, I don't know. I mean, I 632 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: just try to always keep everything in perspective. Being from Iowa, 633 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: having a good family that reminds you of how big 634 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: a dork you are. UM, it kind of keeps everything real. Um. 635 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: But you know, in one way, I'm glad that it happened. 636 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: And then I got through it and came out the 637 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: other side. And and if you can, I think you 638 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: see a lot of difference with the way people handle 639 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: it over the years, and some people that breaks them 640 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: and some people it's just a part of a small 641 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: part of who they were who they are. UM. And 642 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: I think that comes from your friends and your family 643 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: grounding you. And if you've got people in your life 644 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: that tell you how it is and are honest with you, Uh, 645 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: you can use that kind of influence for good. But 646 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: if you have a lot of yes men people in 647 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: your life that just tell what you want to hear, 648 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: it can very easily spiral a lot of control. So 649 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's a double edged sword, but it can 650 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: definitely having an influence. Uh can be a positive thing. 651 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: And I love when I see people use it for good. Well, 652 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: we will make that we passed this message along to Colton. 653 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, Colton is the next bachelor. He Uh 654 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: he needs this message. Uh. He's he's a good dude. 655 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna do great. Uh he is, and he has 656 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: a big heart. I just saw actually on Instagram the 657 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: day he posted about some puppies. Again, I mean, he 658 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: loves his puppies and he loves his people, So what 659 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: else could you ask for? Well, and Ben, I gotta 660 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: tell you, you've got a lot of fans in my 661 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: my network of friends and family. Everybody loves you and 662 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: loves you and listen to your shows and and uh 663 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: like when we golf together, everybody was freaking out that 664 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: I knew you. I'm like, yeah, he's a buddy of mine. 665 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: So if you'll do me a big favor and embarrass 666 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. But you just say happy 667 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: thirty two, Jen, she's your future X wife. You just 668 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: don't know it yet. Oh man, I would love to jin. 669 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: You're beautiful, you're sophisticated. You you walk and talk with grace. Uh. 670 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Happy thirtieth birthday to you from Riley, Ashley and myself, 671 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: but especially me. I look forward to many years spending together. 672 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ben. That's why you're a good one man. 673 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm so glad we got to catch up. Yeah, dude, 674 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: you two keep doing you and congratulations on all the 675 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: recent success. Keep it up. And for anybody out there listening, 676 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: make sure you check out Riley's new show coming up 677 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 1: when Riley It's gonna be on in January on Fox 678 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: Proven Innocent, Perfect, Good, all right, we'll be walking hey, 679 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: y'all keep it up. I'm gonna be listening to you. 680 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: Thanks man. Yeah. Uh. Actually he's a good one man 681 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: or woman. Sorry, he's a good one. Um. It's crazy 682 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: to think, even today, how much those Disney movies really 683 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: will affect our generation. 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But then every once in 744 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: a while you kind of have these relationships that defy reality, 745 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: like your relationship with Jared, and you're like, this is 746 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: so real. The show has brought these two people together 747 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: and there in love, and I thought that, really you 748 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: and I talked about it. I thought that happened for 749 00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: Jordan and Jenna. Week the news came out, I was like, 750 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: these people are actually going to make it in the 751 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: long haul. And now we hear that Jenna has basically 752 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: been cheating on Jordan's since he got together, didn't they 753 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: left Paradise and maybe it was all like this weird 754 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: plan from the very beginning for her, No, just find 755 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: somebody right, right. So we have to give credit to 756 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Reality Seves because he really did break this case, and 757 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: it was it was quite something because what happened was 758 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: this man who I guess Jenna had been seeing her 759 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: talking to, was sending Reality Steves these messages that he 760 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: was getting from Jenna, saying things along the lines of 761 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't even like Jordan as a person, this is 762 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: all for business. I don't love him, I don't like 763 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't even like him, or something along the line 764 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: to that, and she said that I love you. She 765 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: referred to the to the other man, she said, I 766 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: love you. And then on Reality Steves ended up tweeting 767 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: out the night before he announced all this drama that 768 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: he was going to have a lot of dirt on 769 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: someone to come out the next day. And then when 770 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Jenna saw those tweets that he had dirt on someone, 771 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: she immediately assumed that it was him or that it 772 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: was hers that he had dirt on. And then she 773 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: ends up calling Jordan's in like a panic mode, saying 774 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: that she thinks that reality Steve has dirt on her. 775 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: So that makes everything. See, you know, she was immediately 776 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: expecting that it was a dirt on her. Obviously she 777 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: did it. You know, there's no backpeddling after that, and 778 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: she did. Then I think that she called Jordan's and 779 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: then she called him back and they had two conversations 780 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: about how worried she was about the breaking news that 781 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: was going to be announced. And then the next day 782 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 1: when it was released, Jenna didn't come groveling back to 783 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: Jordan's and saying and denying anything or even like really apologizing. 784 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: She just was like just she just it was just 785 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: what it was. She didn't start denying anything for like 786 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: twenty four hours afterwards. And this, of course, you know 787 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: the way that she acted, and of course the way 788 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: she acted that whole twenty four hours span make shortan 789 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: believe that all of this is true. It's absolutely still 790 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: crazy me. The stuff that reality Steves can pull off, 791 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't know how he does it. 792 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to know how he 793 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: does it. Um, but this situation I just angered me 794 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: because it's so it's very manipulative. You're messing with somebody's emotions, 795 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: You're playing with somebody's heart. I mean, Jordan's kind of 796 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: had this, you know character during Beckat season that we 797 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: loved to hate and we love to laugh at. And 798 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: then we also got to see and kind of come 799 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: into one of being one of America's favorite characters on 800 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradise because look like and it felt like Jenna 801 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: kind of had not broken him but tame the beast 802 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: and that he was his best self because of her. 803 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: And then this curt it out and I can't imagine 804 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: where he's feeling. Um, he's obviously devastating and heartbroken. He's 805 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: he's totally blindsided and completely betrayed. I mean, how is 806 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: he ever going to be able to trust anyone again? 807 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: After this? He gets engaged, it's totally head over heels 808 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: and love love at first sight with this woman and 809 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 1: then she's been cheating on him or it's like not 810 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: even just cheating, it's just it's a lie. It's like 811 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: lying to the utmost degree for the past three months. 812 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't like this and it is it's it's insane 813 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: and it's not okay. And that's the thing is, like 814 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: we can gloss over this and anybody out there listening 815 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: can be like, oh, this is just reality television. Oh yeah, 816 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,399 Speaker 1: you expect this kind of stuff. No, Like Jordan really 817 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: cared about Jenna, like he loves this woman and so 818 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: love and love and so put yourself in his shoes, 819 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,359 Speaker 1: say you fall in love with somebody. Take the TV 820 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,320 Speaker 1: piece out of this, right. I mean, we've had couple 821 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: get married from this show. Like, he's in love with 822 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: this woman. He thinks he's engaged, he's telling his friends 823 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: and family, he's excited, he's posting on the social media, 824 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: and then before you know it, he realizes it was 825 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: all in act. It's crushing. It would be brutal. And 826 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: somebody that can kind of help, I guess, talk him 827 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 1: through this and get him back on track is somebody 828 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: that we appreciate. It's l from men. L create an 829 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: app called men who helps people get through breakups? L 830 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: Are you out there? Hello? Hello, l if, I'm in Ben. Hey. 831 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: We were just talking about how Jordan's is recovering from 832 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: not just a breakup, but a really traumatic betrayal. Are 833 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: you familiar with the story? Oh, I'm opening to elier 834 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: with it. Yes, So you recommend him taking the first 835 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: step to recover from his heartbreak, Well, I think, you know, 836 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: I see so many breakup stories through men, and I 837 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: have to say, I feel like this one has the 838 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: most layers because I think, like you said, the first 839 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: one is the breach of trust, and then the second 840 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: layer is if the texts are true, which um, you 841 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: know I'm very guysally talked about. Yeah. Um. Then she 842 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: was saying that the feelings for him aren't real, So 843 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: that's like the second layer of heart break. And then 844 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: the third layer of this is all playing out on TV. 845 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,479 Speaker 1: So I really feel for him, um, because I feel 846 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: like normally are dealing with one or two of those things, 847 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: not all three of those things at once. Um. I 848 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: think the I think one of the biggest things that 849 00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: he will probably deal with and the struggle with once 850 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: he's sort of over the shock of it all is 851 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: the fact that he had made so many future plans 852 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: with her, And I think that's one of the hardest 853 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: parts of this type of heartbreak is that you have 854 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: made a lot of plans together, Like they they were engaged, 855 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: they were planning to have kids, they had asked Chris 856 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: to appreciates a wedding. So so I really do think 857 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: part of the morning process for him is going to 858 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,760 Speaker 1: be um really focusing on letting go of those future plans. 859 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: It's almost like morning this future that you're you're no 860 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: longer going to have. And I feel like that's going 861 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: to be a really important step for him to take 862 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: in order to make space for something new and for 863 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: someone new in his life. So, l you have a 864 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: service called mend. I know you've talked about this on 865 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 1: Jared's podcast Help Us Like a Dating a few times, 866 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: But your service it's supposed to help people step by 867 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: step get over their breakup. And I've always frowned whenever 868 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm going through Maybe I haven't had too many breakups, 869 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: but like, but a breakup of whatever means to a 870 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: breakup of sorts, I always find it's the death of 871 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: the day dreams that is the most hurtful. Thing exactly. Yeah, 872 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: and I think you know, they took it even a 873 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: step further right, Like a lot of times, I mean, 874 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: just from personal experience, sometimes you're not even sharing those 875 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: plans that you're making with someone, right, Like you're just 876 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: thinking about all those things that you want to do. 877 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: And even then it's really heartbreaking. But the fact that 878 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: they actually made all of these plans, not just the 879 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: two of them together, but the fact that they made 880 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: all of these plans in public, you know, and everybody, 881 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: like the whole world knows about all these plans, and 882 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: and and now they have to uh, well, now he 883 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: has to move forward and try to let go of that. 884 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: I do think that that is going to be one 885 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: of the hardest parts once he gets over sort of 886 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: the shock of it, and just the sort of the 887 00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: shock that what he thought she was feeling, you know, 888 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: she wasn't feeling if the texts are true. You know, 889 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't know how you recover. I don't know how 890 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: you recover from that. I really don't. And it is 891 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: to tell us as the expert here, can you recover 892 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: from that? And what does it look like? Yeah, you 893 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: absolutely can recover from that. And I think that's That's 894 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: one of the really beautiful things that I've witnessed through, 895 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, the thousands and thousands and thousands of breakups 896 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: that we witness with men, is that the human heart 897 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: is so resilient. And I really do think that our 898 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: core we are built to be resilient and to deal 899 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: with struggles and challenges. And yes, this is a really 900 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: hard one for all the reasons we talked about. I 901 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: think there are so many layers of it, um, but 902 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: you can recover. And I think the first step UM 903 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: with any breakup, but especially this one, is you really 904 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: have to take care of your physical body because when 905 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: you're going through a breakup, there's so many physiological changes 906 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: and neuro local changes. You actually start to feel like 907 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: you're going through withdrawal. And a lot of people actually 908 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: get sick like I don't know if you guys have 909 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: ever experienced that. You get you catch like a cold 910 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: or something after he goes through a breakup, and it's 911 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: because your body is you know, experiencing UM. Your immune 912 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: system actually gets to dressed. So you really have to 913 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: take care of your body. UM. Focusing on sleep if 914 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: you can't sleep, UM, you know, getting exercise so that 915 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: you're getting endorphins being around people, so that you're getting 916 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: feel good hormones. UM. It's really like the basics in 917 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: the beginning. It's like triage UM in the early days. 918 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: And I think that that's probably where Jordan is UM 919 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: as soon as he's sort of I imagine right now 920 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: he's more in the shock phase because it's passed, but 921 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: pretty soon he will hit that phase where he starts 922 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: to really feel it physically. You know, when I did 923 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,240 Speaker 1: go through one of the most traumatic breakup is things 924 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: of my life. I actually lost over ten pounds in 925 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: two months, and it was about six months before I 926 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: went on The Bachelor, So I actually try on And 927 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned this on my my Instagram this week that 928 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: I tried on address that I wore on The Bachelor 929 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: when I was thirteen pounds lighter and I was that 930 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: much lighter than I am now because of a breakup. Yeah. Yeah, 931 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: it affects. I mean, it affects everything. Like I think 932 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: that's the really interesting part about breakups that you don't 933 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: necessarily know. Um, you experienced it, but you don't necessarily 934 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: know everything that's happening underneath the surface. And I mean 935 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: your immune system gets suppressed. Um, your heartbeat can actually change. 936 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 1: So they've actually studied what you know, what people's heartbeats 937 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,320 Speaker 1: sound like after a break up. You can actually see it. 938 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: And um, you know when you're looking at a heartbeat 939 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: and um, you know your hormone levels are way out 940 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: of whack. Um. I mean really like it's a I 941 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: really think that you should get heartbreak days, just like 942 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: you get six days at work, because it is that 943 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: that's a difficult thing. And um, and you know that's 944 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: why I think it's so important once someone's going through that, 945 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,320 Speaker 1: that you're not just dismissive of it and you know, 946 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: telling them I will just get over it. You know, 947 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: who wasn't that great anyway or she was lame anyway. Like, 948 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 1: it really is such a physical thing that you're going through, 949 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: especially in the beginning. So how do people find up 950 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: for your services? 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And that way we can sort of 959 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: personalize your men's programs because every heartbreak is is unique. 960 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: Although I'll say we do not have we have breakup 961 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: reasons that sort of teh Jordan's breakup leason like infidelity. Um, 962 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: but this one is this is like a complicated we 963 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: need like another box for this one. France, Well, thank you, 964 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: l we we hope that he listens to your stuff 965 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 1: on then I'll let him know about it and he's 966 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: then yes, and until the next time we have a 967 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,439 Speaker 1: heartbroken back to with a dest it on our hands, 968 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you them. Yeah, thank you so much, guys, 969 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: thank you. By hey. Actually, we have one last person's 970 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: opinion on the Jordan's situation, somebody that I I think 971 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 1: we'll have maybe not a unique opinion on it, but 972 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear his thoughts. We have one of 973 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: our most consistent guests. I don't know if he has 974 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: anything to do with his life other than come on 975 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast. Um, we have David the Chicken Online. Now, David, 976 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 1: you out there, David David, Are you David David? What 977 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: did I do. What's up? Guys? Are you sad? Am? 978 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: I sad Jordan's I feel terrible for them? He was 979 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: your Now you have sympathy, absolutely, I'm first with the guy. Yeah, 980 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: but you said them, Who side are you on here? 981 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like we've just talked to a 982 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: couple of people. We've got a little bit of insight 983 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: into what happened. It sounds like jin had a boyfriend. 984 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: She's sitting this boyfriend's text. This whole Jordan relationship was 985 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: for business and profit. Um, are you sad for him? 986 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: Are you bad for them? Or how are you feeling? 987 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 1: Like Ashley said, David, you must be sad. I'm definitely sad. 988 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm sad for the relationship. I'm sad for Jordan's. Um, 989 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: I feel bad. You know, I feel bad. He put 990 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: himself out there like that, and you know it was 991 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: obviously certain was in love. And the fact that Jenna 992 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: was just using it for business and had something going 993 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: on on the side. I can't even imagine that. I 994 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: feel so bad for the guy. It crushes you. David. 995 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 1: Here's uh, We're not gonna keep you long. We know 996 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,840 Speaker 1: that you've got a busy life and We've got to 997 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: keep using you for the almost famous, famous podcast and tea. 998 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: If you could describe Jordan's in one word right now, 999 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: what would it be. Would you say, if you're Jordan 1000 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: you're sitting interview, would you say a model? David, That's ridiculous. 1001 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: He would not describe himself as a model right now. 1002 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: He's heartbroken, devastated, devastated. I am a devastated guy, he 1003 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 1: would say, I am a man. Do you guys know 1004 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,720 Speaker 1: what the best revenge would be him getting this huge 1005 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: modeling gig. You know, like she should be on the 1006 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: cover of you to now and do you really really 1007 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: show her? I agree? Actually, I think that's awesome. What 1008 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: if he had like and what if the cover was uh, 1009 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: what if the cover of the g Q was like, uh, 1010 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: breaking but not broken? Oh? I like the good that's 1011 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: a Zola and our cover right there. I love it. Um, David, 1012 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: you're the best. We're happy to hear you and Jordan 1013 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: your friends again. Um. We're also happy to hear it's 1014 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: life good for you? How school? Everything's good? Everything's great, 1015 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: ut and learning a lot and uh having fun down 1016 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: here everything. David, be a good boy, Okay, don't be 1017 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: going to get yourself into some trouble. I can't promise that, 1018 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: but um, you guys are always going whenever you want 1019 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 1: to come visit. Sounds good, buddy, Hey, thanks for coming on. 1020 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: All right, good to talk to you guys. Okay, all right, 1021 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys. You know what we We still 1022 00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 1: didn't cover one breaking news story. It's one that our 1023 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: whole family talked about on the cruise the day had happened. 1024 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: Our parents were like, did you hear about Amanda? Did 1025 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 1: you hear about Amanda? Everybody was asking Jared and I 1026 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: have we heard about Amanda and Amanda's arrest in Las 1027 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: Vegas last weekend. It's a very unfortunate situation, something you 1028 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: definitely want to don't want to hear. Um happened to 1029 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: a friend. But you know why, it seems to be 1030 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: a bigger headline than the real story behind it is. 1031 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,919 Speaker 1: It seems like it really wasn't that big of a deal. 1032 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: It may have been a little push. I really want 1033 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: to get into, you know, the police details of it, 1034 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: all the security details. But we do have a statement 1035 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: from Amanda m So we'll read through that. But first, Ben, 1036 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: do you have any thoughts on Amanda's arrest. Yeah. I mean, 1037 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: anytime there's a mug shot, it becomes a story that's 1038 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: that's just not good for anybody. Nobody wants a mug 1039 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: shot go to bad that. This is not a good look. 1040 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 1: I've never seen name bugshot other than that one dude 1041 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 1: who like became viral with his mug shot. There is 1042 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: a good beauty but beautyful man. Yeah, the beautiful man. So, UM, 1043 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: here's the one thing I'll take away from this. Amanda 1044 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: is a friend. I don't know the details of this. 1045 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: I can't speak on the details of this. I literally 1046 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: have done no research. I know uh that that there 1047 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: is a group of people there. I know some people 1048 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: from The Bachelor were also with her. Um. I have 1049 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,920 Speaker 1: literally dug in and I have not dug it at 1050 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: all on this, and I feel weird even talking about it. 1051 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: We will read your statement. But here's the one thing 1052 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: will take away, and I'm sure a man it would 1053 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: say the same thing. It's just not good to push 1054 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 1: anybody anyways, especially you know your partner. Um. And so 1055 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 1: that's one lesson learned here. Um. You know, if all 1056 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: else uh is is still up to investigation. We do 1057 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: know Amanda did push Bobby hard soft whatever? We don't know, 1058 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: but it's just probably not the right decision. It's not 1059 00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: a good thing. It's not And as you're you're right. Um, 1060 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: the thing is the story may be small, but the 1061 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: mug shot will last forever. And that's the practic farm 1062 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: about it. It really is. Yeah, So I mean with 1063 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: with that, that's a good lesson learned. Don't shove your partner, 1064 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: don't shove anybody. It's gonna get you into trouble. It's 1065 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: not a good look. And so that's the takeaway I 1066 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: can take from reading the headlines and reading the statement. Um, actually, 1067 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: because you sound more like Amanda than I do you 1068 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 1: want to read the statement? Sure, yeah, I think it's 1069 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: an Amanda's publicist. But here we go. Amanda is embarrassed 1070 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: and a shame this happened and sincerely apologizes to hotel 1071 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 1: security and the Las Vegas Police Department. Amanda is a gentle, 1072 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: respectful person who has never gotten physical with anyone under 1073 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 1: any circumstance. That evening, she had a few drinks at 1074 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: a bachelorette party, and when the hotel security asked her 1075 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: and Bobby, her boyfriend, to quiet down, she got a 1076 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: bit ramsunctious, Amanda gave Bobby what she thought was a 1077 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: playful shoved. Hotel security did their job and reported the 1078 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: incident to police, who interns in their jobs. Despite Bobby 1079 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: explaining that this was not an ill intended shove, the 1080 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: police still had to do their job, which Amanda completely 1081 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:17,439 Speaker 1: respect and understand. And I I think that's a lovely sament. Yeah, 1082 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: good job. I mean, I don't know, we'll see how 1083 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: plays out. I'm sure it's still under investigation. I'm sure 1084 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: we're hearing more about it in the future. But until then, um, 1085 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: that's all we know and and and that's all we 1086 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: really can speak on. So, yeah, a huge week for 1087 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor news. That's why we had to come with a 1088 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,880 Speaker 1: special podcast. That's why I actually had to had to 1089 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: cut her trip short and sit in an airport and 1090 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: call into the podcast because it's such a big deal 1091 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: with all this news, we had to get a podcast 1092 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: out to you. We would do we want to be 1093 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: doing our jobs unless we did so. Thanks for listening 1094 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: to the special podcast. Also, thank you the beast Body 1095 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: on the Man get a special free trial membership when 1096 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 1: you text Almost Famous. 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