1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by Marketing and 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashaan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In in case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: we go, Miss Lawrence. She's out of Utah, but she's 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: making a big impact with HPCU and Utah. Can you 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: believe it? In Utah HPCU impact. What we're doing a 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: big old money Making Conversation Masterclass HPCUS taking over the world. 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the money Making Conversations Minute 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration. 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: This week, I sat down with director executive stain head 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: writer of the hit series First Killed on Netflix, Felicia Henderson. 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: She explains how being an open minded in the writing 19 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: room can lead to a well balanced project. You know, 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that the writer's room should have 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: the experience that you're depicting on the screen. I also 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure there wasn't just one queer person 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: in the room, right who everybody was looking at going 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: and now we turn to you as the queer expert, 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: right because you know, it's like, like all experiences, there's 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: no such thing as a monolithic experience or whatever it 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: is that you are. It was important, you know, for 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: all the experiences that I thought we were going to 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: be depicting, right right. If you want to listen to 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: this full interview with Felicia Henderson, it's available on Mondaymaking 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: conversations dot com. You know, I'm gonna tell everybody, you know, 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: because I get a lot of people when we shine. 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: You know that more HBCUs out there. Hey, you come 34 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: on my show. Anybody who graduates from HPC, you can 35 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: come on my show. My show is open to everybody. 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the word out about how great 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: academic opportunity and how great the academic opportunities are being 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: made at HBCUs. And this is one of these shows 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: I've dedicated specifically the conversation of HBCUs. Like I tell everybody, 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I didn't go to an HPCU. I went to a PWI, 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: which is predominantly white institution of what they call a 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: p WI. And it was the university he used to, 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: which is now ranked number one and in basketball. Hopefully 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: they win the Big March Madness this year. But my 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: next guest, she is also an HBCU graduate, but she's 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: doing it big in the state of Utah. Samon Lawrence. 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: She's the program manager at the University of Utah's HPCU 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Impact Program. Now, she's originally from Charlotte, North Carolina, where 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: she attended college in DC at Howard University where she 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: received her Bachelor of Arts and Strategic Legal and Management Communications, 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: So you know she can talk. HBCU Impact is a 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: summer internship program that allow students at HBCUs to connect 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: with companies in Utah. This will give companies access to 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: more diverse talent with the hopes of them having full 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: time employment opportunities at their company. The companies paid for 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the students flights listen to them. The companies pay for 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: the students flights House and the salary over the summer. 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: In return, the University of Utah will provide access to 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: HBCU students, housing, the campus, community connections, and weakly activities 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: such as professional development and community service. Impact is an 61 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: acronym for internship mentorship, professional development, academic achievement, and community service, 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: as well as talent. Enrichmond, please welcome to Money Making 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Conversations masterclass. She's straight out of Utah by way of 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Some own Lawrence. Hey you knowing it's Lawrence. 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm great, Thank you so much for having you today. Well, 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: you know it's HBCU day for me today. Now I'm 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: doing HBCU Conversations now. Now you and you taught you're tall, 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: You're tak you taw. I've been to Utah. I'm just 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: telling everybody I've been in Utah. I should just stand up, 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: come up, comedy. And I went to Utah one time, 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: and I would tell you that town closed down and 72 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: every time it's Salt Lake City you talk. Let me 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: just tell you, not just the old state. I went 74 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: to Salt Lake City, you talk, beautiful city, beautiful. I 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: love snow people, but I can't ski though. I just 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: love snow. I just loved the picturesque and the look 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: of snow. One of my favorite states is Colorado, and 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: so when I went there, all activities basically ceased for 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: me socially. At ten am. Now that's a whole time ago. 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Now is it still hot and popping? Is it popping 81 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: after ten o'clock at Salt Lake City today? Um? On 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: the weekends sometimes coming from DC where I could get 83 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: tacos at two am, and now I have to eat 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: my food by nine. I I love it. I love it. 85 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this program HBCU Impact, because I 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, when I was in college. I remember, I'm 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, and I went there down to Louisiana 88 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: and I met with this company and they had they 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: kind of had a program like this, you know, and 90 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: when they were trying to get diversity, they were trying 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: to bring in more people of color into the company. 92 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: And I worked off shore. I worked eighty five miles 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: out in the Gulf. I would do that for two 94 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: weeks or two weeks off and I was doing engineering work. Now, 95 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: this program here is in at tied to the University 96 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: of you talk. Can you tell us a little bit 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: about the University of you talk before we get started. 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So University Ties is located right on the 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: hill in Salt Lake City. It's an R one institution 100 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: and it's just slowly growing to this great economic development 101 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: and this is a unique partnership with an R one 102 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: institution reaching out these HBCUs and developing these partnerships. Now 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: when you now you you are a person who was 104 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: a part of this program. You participated two years before, 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: so you're not a person just over the program, the 106 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: program manager. You are a person who was I guess 107 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: benefited in the program. Correct. Yeah, So I went through 108 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the program twice and then at the end of my 109 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: second term, Day offered me the job to manage the program. 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: So I've been doing that since twenty twenty one. Okay, 111 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: so how did you how did they how did you 112 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: find out about the program? So in twenty twenty one, 113 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: this is when the program was starting, and I had 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: an internship class that I had to take and Thorough Site, 115 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: which was one of the first companies to come participate 116 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: in the program. They ran my class and you were 117 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: talking about this new opportunity. It's like, Yeah, the University 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: of Utah is trying to get more diversity out here. 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: We are going to pay for your flights, we're gonna 120 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: pay for your housing, we'll pay you a salary, And 121 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: I like, this sounds amazing. Why would I not want 122 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: to take this opportunity to try something new and expand 123 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: my horizons. Even if I just find out that I 124 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: hated Utah, at least I get to check, you know, 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: another state off my list. So I was very excited 126 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: to try this out. And then the pandemic happened and 127 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even get to go to Utah twenty yes, 128 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty one they opened it back up. 129 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: I still was able to get tue my internship virtually, 130 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: but in twenty twenty one was the first year that 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: we're able to go out there. So my cohort the 132 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: sixteen of US and now sixteen sixteen from the one 133 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: HBCU or attendant of various HBCUs around the country. In 134 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, there was only one HPCU involved, which 135 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: was Howard University. But since then we've expanded to work 136 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: with other HBCUs like Morgan State, uh Morehouse, Tuskegee, FAMU, 137 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina, ant So we're gradually expanding, but that first 138 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: two years were only Howard student. Okay. Yeah, so basically 139 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: you were kind of like the ambassadors to the brain 140 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: to see if the program worked, the value of the program, 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: so you set you set the tone for the success 142 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: of the program. Correct, Yes, And you know, even though 143 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: it was new, I still had obviously had a great 144 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: impact on me where I thought, how can I get 145 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: other students to get involved with this, because be kind 146 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: of scary to want to go to Utah. I have 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: no family out here. I just with the U talk 148 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: for two months during the summer for my internship and 149 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: they say, if AU just come move out here in 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: two weeks, I like, really, okay, let's back to let's 151 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: back this up there. You know, I read your bio. 152 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, Charlotte, North Carolina went to Howard University, Salt 153 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah. Yeah. You know, you know, first of all, 154 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: I think about the food. I think about let's let's 155 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: go and kill the stereotypes. Now black people, black black people. 156 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta wonder where the black people at 157 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, Utah. Okay. And so so I 158 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: know I saw you your Bachelors of Art and Strategic 159 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Legal and management communication. Okay, so what did the world 160 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: adventure adventure you know, come up into this into your background? 161 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: Who did you talk to? You talk to your parents, 162 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,239 Speaker 1: you talk to your classmates? Did you talk to anybody? 163 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: They went, girl, have you lost your mind? Why are 164 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: you going there? Because I gotta get that side of 165 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: the story because you usually leaning all that. I leading 166 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: all this little extra stuff out. Talk about that that 167 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: before you got on the plane to go to Salt Lake. 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Say that Utah for the first time. Yes, that wasn't experienced. Everybody, 169 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: They're like, small, why are you going to Utah? Western Utah? 170 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. People are trying to 171 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: tell me different. I didn't research anything about it. I 172 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: wanted to be completely surprised. I didn't want to have 173 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: any biases against it, and I just wanted to just 174 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: soak in the whole experience to see what I can 175 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: get out of Utah and what it would teach me 176 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: about myself. And so I just I thought, I was like, yeah, 177 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to us out there, like what so again, 178 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just go there for the summer. My move 179 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: there like that is crazy. But every since then, I've 180 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: had family who would come out here and my cousin, 181 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: my dad, my mom, like, wow, Utah such an amazing place, 182 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: a hidden gem that you wouldn't have been thought of. 183 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: The quality of life that you have here U people 184 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: is always the first thing I get asked about where 185 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: we have so soon Where are the black people and 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: so like, said to Utah, they are everywhere. We have 187 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: them in Agsen, Late and just around. It's not in 188 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: a dense community, but they're kind of spread out around Utah. 189 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: But it's once to me one person, you get to 190 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: meet everybody in the community. It's a very tight knit community. 191 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: So there's a group chat that we have. And when 192 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: I first came here about a year and a half ago, 193 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: there were four hundred people in there. Now there's six 194 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: hundred people in there. So it's just continues to grow. 195 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: They're always have their different hands in the community, like oh, 196 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: wants to go to the movies, Oh, we have this 197 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: panel going on, We're gonna have this party, to the 198 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: hostess off together, their June teams here, all the festivities 199 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: that are happy involved. As a legislators said to Utah, alright, alright, 200 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: that yes, you guys, not what you think it is. Okay, okay, now, 201 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: but there are two Utahs. There is a summer Utah 202 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and then there's a winter Utah. Okay, see see the 203 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: beauty of you. You were just doing internships, doing the summer, 204 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: doing the summer. Did I tell you, hey, did you 205 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: want to start working here? Now? Had you experienced the 206 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: winter Utah at that point? No? I have not. When 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: I was about to move, I love I love the mountains. 208 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: I can have this the beautiful view. And then I 209 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, it never rains here, and I 210 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: was like, great, it rained the first two weeks I 211 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: was there. After I moved there, I said, now, why 212 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: did y'a lave seeing you like that? Um? Better? Why 213 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: show wiper blaze? But this last year wasn't as um 214 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: It is snow as much in this year. It has 215 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: been snowing every single day. I think he just snowed 216 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: this morning. Actually now the sun's out, so uh, that's definitely. 217 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: But there's no humidity here, so that makes it different 218 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: from the East coast. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely chilling. I think 219 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: it's a bit more variable. Yeah, absolutely. I'm talking to 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the program manager at the University of Utah's HPCU Impact Program. 221 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: This program allows students during the summer where their companies 222 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: will pay for the students flights, houses and salary over 223 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: the summer and return the University of Utah will provide 224 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: access to HBCUs students. That's that's what you're doing. They're 225 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: trying to get students to come there, lived there, and 226 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: possibly work there to create a more diverse and much 227 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: more I guess you know you learned by people you meet. 228 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: You in stereotypes, stereotypes, and even in this interview, we're 229 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: laughing a lot, but we also end in stereotypes. Interviewing 230 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: some own lawrencies. The program manager for the HPCU Impact Program. 231 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: At the top of the show, I gave out some 232 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: information about the success what I call Black excellence at HBCUs. 233 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give it out again, just in case 234 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: you weren't there at the top of the show. Eight 235 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: percent of the black judges in America graduate from HBCUs, 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the black doctors graduate from HBCUs, cent 237 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: of the black lawyers graduate from HBCUs, forty percent of 238 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: the black engineers graduate from HBCUs, forty percent of the 239 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: black members of Congress graduate from HBCUs, fifty percent of 240 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: the black public school teachers graduate from HBCUs, twenty five 241 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: percent of the black stem professionals graduated from HBCUs, seventy 242 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: five percent of the black veterinarians graduated from HBCUs, seventy 243 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: percent of the Black dentists graduate from HBCUs. Reasons, I 244 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: say that with your program, HBCU impact, HBCUs deliver, and 245 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: they deliver academic success. So this program that they've set 246 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: up at the University of Utah really is vis basically 247 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: inviting the best of the best academically into the city 248 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of the state of Utah in Salt Lake City. Correct, Yes, 249 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: you're such a great talker, and they need you go yes. Yes, 250 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: usually like followed up with the robust tones of encouragement. 251 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: And this is what I got out of this is 252 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: very close to your Angela Davis moment I gave you 253 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: and you just said yes. But that's all right, that's 254 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: all right now, I digress. The program started in twenty twenty. 255 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: You've been a product of the program. Now, the program 256 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: this is unique because as far as a PWI, which 257 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: is a predominant white institution, this is one of the 258 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: first that's ever been created for HBCUs. Correct, Yes, this 259 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: is correct. On campus, we're working out reaching out to 260 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: different our two institutions, and hopefully we can develop faculty 261 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: exchanges as well, so not only focusing our students, and 262 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: we offer fifty percent off grad school if the students 263 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: participate in this program and then come back at the 264 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: U for any graduate degree. So it's very impactful and 265 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: just something new that I don't think we see a 266 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of this at these higher education institutes. Well, you know, 267 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: it's unique because of the fact that we all know 268 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: that if you don't know that the predominant amount it's 269 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: like one hundred and seven HBCUs, The predominant amount of 270 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: HBCUs are located in the southeastern part of the country. 271 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: And that's not by accident because of discriminatory practices not 272 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: allowed blacks higher education in eighteen sixty five. Basically when 273 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: HBCUs were founded, they were founding based as a trade school, 274 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: based on trade school, and then all of a sudden 275 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: it led or then you had W. B. Du Bois, 276 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: and then you had BOOKTI Washington. BOOKATI Washington emphasized trade 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: school training. W E. B. Du Bois emphasized academic He 278 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: wanted doctors. He wanted lawyers, you wanted engineers. And so 279 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: that's really how HBCUs, the core, the HBCUs drive that 280 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: we see today, came out of that. Then if we 281 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: all know the background of a Bookati Washington was Tuskegee University. 282 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Now when you talk about it, so when you talk 283 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: about this program, that's what makes it even more unique 284 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: because you know, Utah is Utah, it's not near an HBCU, 285 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: it's in the part of the company country that is 286 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: predominantly white. But also so I wouldn't see this program 287 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: being tied to I wouldn't see like the University of 288 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Alabama or the University of Georgia doing this because HBCUs 289 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: are right around the corner from there. But it's but 290 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: it's a blessing to me that the University of Utah 291 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: sees value in this type of HBCU partnership because it 292 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: gives not only a new experience for you, but you 293 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: get to share a part of life that I wouldn't 294 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: ever have known about it. When I found out about 295 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: this opportunity, I immediately wanted you to my show to 296 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: talk about it. Continue Wow, thank you. So yes, this 297 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: is such a unique program for the Salt Lake Citio 298 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: if people don't know about it based like number two 299 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: fashion and throwing city for business and the number one 300 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: for financial institutions. So bringing having me see that step 301 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: out of their comfort zone say oh, you know, I 302 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: want to work at Google, I want to work at Apple. 303 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: But there's just so many other career paths and like 304 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: tech companies, financial banking companies, or even just healthcare companies 305 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City that you wouldn't think about. We 306 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: have an area called Silicon Slops, which is just kind 307 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: of trying to replicate Silicon Valley in California, where we 308 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: have all these tech cups, like Adobe is located here. 309 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: We's and something you wouldn't thin about because you're like, 310 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: oh it's Utah. There's nothing out here for me. But 311 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: just having access to that and being able to know, oh, 312 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: I can go here. A lot of students don't think 313 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: that they can do something because they don't see themselves, 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: they don't see people like them in those situations. They're like, oh, 315 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go to Utah because I don't see my 316 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: health here. But once you find out what the type 317 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: of opportunities that they have, I think it's just a 318 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: great opportunity for them come out here. And why wouldn't 319 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: you want to go where internships offer you free flights, 320 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: paying for your housing, You get to go on fun 321 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: activities I take in the southern Utah, get your head shots, 322 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: work on networking skills in this type community where usually 323 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: students are out here and you get an internship in 324 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: another state and you have to find housing, or you 325 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: have to pay for other things, or you have to 326 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: figure out what to do on the weekends. But I 327 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: create all that curriculum and I'm sitting here with these 328 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: students like, hey, I understand where you're coming from. You know, 329 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: I went to an HBCU, I went through this program, 330 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: and now I live in Salt Lake City. So anything 331 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: you need help navigating, I can be that for you. 332 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: Give the list of black Pages. Here's the barber shops, 333 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: here's the nail shop, here's some good food places to eat. 334 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: As you mentioned earlier, you know we have those hidden gyms, 335 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: but you need to reach out to that community and 336 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: have them engaged so that they're able to see what 337 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: resources are out there for them. Awesome. Here's the thing 338 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: about it. When I when I listened to you talk 339 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: or you know, the reason you're on my show today 340 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: money Making Conversation Magic Class, because people don't know it's 341 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: about promoting, it's about getting the word out about Yeah, 342 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: because I always tell my story about working off shore 343 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: and people look at me. Really, how did you find 344 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: that out? I just happen to walk into you know, 345 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: career training at the University of Houston, and h happen 346 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: to see it on board on the board, and I 347 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: called a number and I had to go to like 348 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: three different interviews in the state of Louisiana. And while 349 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: I was eighty five miles out of the Gulf with 350 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: a story that I would also you know, the beauty 351 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: of even if you didn't work there and you came back, 352 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: but the experience that you have of being in Salt 353 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Lake City turn into sold Like city would have been 354 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: the ultimate blessing anyway. Correct, Oh, yes, definitely, just because 355 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: when you expand your horizons to go out to different 356 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: places where you don't see people like you and get 357 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: out your comfort zone, it allows you to broaden your 358 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: conversation topics. It allows you to speak with people that 359 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't necessarily think you have any being in common 360 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: with but now you have this unique experience if you 361 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: want to know, oh, how did you get here? What 362 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: did you learn from there? Oh you're not afraid to 363 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: be an uncomfortable situations like let's talk more about you 364 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: know what can I do for you? Or and how 365 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: can you help me? So I think something very impactful 366 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: about that. Now, now I've read a lot bio. Say 367 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: the bio, not the little bio, the bio. Now you 368 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: have a CU alarm. Yes, So Rodnie Cohen, we started 369 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: this program in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. Realize there 370 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: are other HBCU programs on campus. They're about seven other 371 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: programs that work with students as well, like past make 372 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: Your programs, a radiation safety programs, and cancer research programs 373 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: as well on campus back heater to HBCUs students. And 374 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: we needed somebody to help manage all the decent programs. 375 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: So Rodney Cohen has joined us and he has been 376 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: instrumental to engaging with all of these different universities and 377 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: developing out more of these partnerships. Now you had the 378 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: NBA All Star Game was there and recently and I 379 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: know they do a lot. I think they're doing an 380 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: HBCU game there at every HBCU an NBA All Star event. 381 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: I know that Chris Paul is a number one ambassador 382 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: for HBCUs and promoting the value of HBCUs. I think 383 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: he recently got his degree from an HBCU. That's Chris Paul, 384 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: NBA All Star, future Hall of Fame, future Hall of 385 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: Famer who now plays for the Phoenix Suns. Did you 386 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: guys benefit from any exposure of the NBA All Star 387 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Weekend when it was hosted in Saltleax City the HPCU impact. Yes, 388 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: So the university actually hosted a number of events on campus. 389 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: We hosted the HBCU Classic versus Southern and Grambling and 390 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: also hosted the g League game. And the university a 391 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: couple weeks before that came to us and say, we 392 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: heard about your program, how can you help support you 393 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: and help build up these black communities, And they give 394 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: us a gift U fifty thousand dollars, which has been 395 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: exciting news for here to hear that the NBA, since 396 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: one of our partners is used high jazz and they 397 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: have this to spread out in the community where it 398 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: reaches up to those levels where like we see what 399 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: you're doing we support these students in this community. How 400 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: can we help you? And so that was that's interesting. 401 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: You say you received a gift from fifty thousand dollars 402 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: donation to the HBCU Impact Program at the University of Utah. 403 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: What does one do with fifty thousand dollars donation? What 404 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: do you do? How does that benefit your program? So 405 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: we were true during the school year, we go to 406 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: these hbcs on campus and say maybe you want these galleries, 407 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: resumes or help start travel, help for the professor development 408 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: workshops that we try to pay for welcome packages that 409 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: we have with the students, and I host a number 410 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: of community events to get the black community introduced to 411 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: the students so that they can develop these or any 412 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: meatorships relationships, and so it just helps fund having these 413 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: farewell welcome events to take them out to MoIB to 414 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: experience the different what suga Utah is like, which is 415 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: more red rocks, which you would think Salt Lake is like. 416 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: Food just goes towards that development. And we actually shared 417 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: donation with the Black Cultural Censor on campus where they're 418 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: creating new program Generation Next and they're trying to work 419 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: with their black students who are locally and take them 420 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: through these professional development workshops throughout the year and then 421 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: engage with our students over the summer. But they worked 422 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: with them as well. As we close out the interview, 423 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: how can we get in touch with you? Tell us 424 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: more about any social media handles or any website so 425 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: they can visit to find out more about the HBCU 426 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: Impact Program at the University of Utah. Yeah, so if 427 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: you go to Diversity dot Utah dot edu and then 428 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: type in HBCU Partnerships in the search part, it will 429 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: take you to all of the different partnerships that we 430 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: have on campus, and the first one will be HBCU Impact. 431 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna thank you for taking the time to come 432 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: on money Making Comes, says Mastercla. You enjoy, I enjoy 433 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: your energy. 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