1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: It's to show that she has the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and brand and expert Rashan McDonald. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: I will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: And in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs and entrepreneurs and industry decision 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: make because it's what he likes to do, it's what 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: my man, Rashaan McDonald money Making Conversations. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Here we go, Ms Lawrence. She's out of Utah, but 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: she's making a big impact with HPCU in Utah. Can 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: you believe it? In Utah HPCU impact. But we're doing 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: in a big old money Making Conversation master class. Hpcu's 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: taking over the world. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: You are now tuned into the money Making Conversations Minute 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: your daily minute of Inspiration. This week, I sat down 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: with director, executive head writer of the hit series First 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Killed on Netflix, Felicia Henderson. She explains how being open 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: minded in the writing room can lead to a well 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: balanced project. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 4: You know, I'm a big believer that the writer's room 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: should have the experience that you're depicting on the screen. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: I also wanted to make sure there wasn't just one 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 4: queer person in the room who everybody. 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 5: Was looking at. 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Going and now we turn to you as the queer expert, right, 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 4: because you know, it's like all experiences, there's no such 30 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: thing as a monolithic experience or whatever it is that 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 4: you are. It was important, you know, for all the 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: experiences that I thought we were going to be. 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Depicted right right, if we were to listen to this 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: full interview with Felicia Henderson, it's available on Money Making 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Conversations dot com. You know, I'm gonna tell everybody, you know, 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: because you know, I get a lot of people well 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: we shine, you know that more HBCUs out there. Hey, 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: you can come on my show. Anybody who graduates from HBC, 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: you can come on my show. My show is open 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 1: to everybody. I'm trying to get the word out about 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: how great academic opportunity I how great the academic opportunity 42 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: is are being made at HBCUs and this is one 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of these shows I've dedicated specifically the conversation of HBCUs. 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: Like I tell everybody, I didn't go to an HBCU. 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: I went to a PWI, which is predominantly white institution, 46 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: what they call a PWI, and it was the University Housto, 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: which is now ranked number one and in basketball. Hopefully 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: they win the Big March Madness this year. But my 49 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: next guest, she is also an HBCU graduate, but she's 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: doing it big in the state of Utah. Samon Lawrence. 51 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: She's the program manager at the University of Utah's HBCU 52 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: Impact Program. Now, she's originally from Charlotte, North Carolina, where 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: she attended college in DC at Howard University where she 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: received her Bachelor of Arts and Strategic Legal and Management Communications. 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: So you know she can talk. HBCU Impact is a 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: summer internship program that allows students at HBCUs to connect 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: with companies in Utah. This will give companies access to 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: more diverse talent with the hopes of them having full 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: time employment opportunities at their company. The companies paid for 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: the students' flights. Listen to the companies pay for the students' flights, 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: house and the salary over the summer. In return, the 62 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: University of Utah will provide access to HBCU students housing, 63 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: the campus, community connections, and weekly activities such as professional 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: development and community service. Impact is an acronym for internship mentorship, 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: professional development, academic achievement, and community service, as well as 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: talent enrichment. Please welcome to the Money Making Conversations master Class. 67 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: She's straight out of Utah by way of North Carolina. 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Simone Lawrence. How you doing is Lawrence? 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 5: I'm great, Thank you so much for having you today. 70 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know it's HBCU day for me today. Now 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing HBCU Conversations now. Now you and Utah, you 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: tak you talk Uta. I've been to Utah. I'm just 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: telling everybody I've been to the Utah. I should just 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: stand up, come up, comedy. And I went to Utah 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: one time, and I will tell you that town closed down. 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Salt Lake City, Utah. Let me 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: just tell you, not just the whole state. I went 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: to Salt Lake City, U Tah, beautiful city, beautiful. I 79 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: love snow people, but I can't ski though. I just 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: love snow. I just loved the picturesque did the look 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: of snow. One of my favorite states is Colorado, and 82 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: so but when I went there, all activity basically ceased 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: for me socially. At ten am. Now that's a long 84 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: time ago. Now is it still hot and popping? Is 85 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: it popping after ten o'clock at Salt Lake City today? 86 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 5: On the weekends, sometimes coming from DC where I could 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 5: get tacos at two am, and now I have to 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 5: eat my food by nine pm. I'm learning to suggest. 89 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So let's talk about 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: this program HPCU Impact, because I you know, when I 91 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: was in college. I remember, I'm from Houston, Texas, and 92 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I went down to Louisiana and I met with this 93 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: company and they had they kind of had a program 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: like this, you know, and and there they were trying 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: to get diversity. They were trying to bring in more 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: people of color into their company. And I worked off shore. 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: I worked eighty five miles out in the Gulf. I 98 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: would do that for two weeks on two weeks off 99 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: and I was doing engineering work. Now, this program here 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: is tied to the University of Utah. Can you tell 101 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: us a little bit about the University of Utah before 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: we get started. 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, So University tie is located right on the 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 5: hill in Salt Lake City. It's an R one institution 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 5: and it's just slowly growing to this great economic development. 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 5: And this is a unique partnership with an R one 107 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 5: institution reaching out to these HBCUs and developing these partnerships. 108 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Now when you now you you are a person who 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: was a part of this program. You participated two years before, 110 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: So you're not a person just over the program, the 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: program manager. You are a person who was I guess 112 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: benefited for the program. 113 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, So I went through the program twice and 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 5: then at the end of my second term, Day offered 115 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 5: me the job to manage the program. So I've been 116 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: doing that since twenty twenty one. 117 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so how did you how did they how did 118 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: you find out about the program? 119 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 5: So in twenty twenty one, this when the program was 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: starting and I had an internship class that I had 121 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 5: to take and thorough Site, which was one of the 122 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: first companies to come participate in the program. They ran 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: my class, you know, talking about this new opportunity, Like, yeah, 124 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 5: the University of Utah is trying to get more diversity 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: out here. We are going to pay for your flights, 126 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 5: we're going to pay for your housing, we'll pay you 127 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 5: a salary. And I was like, this sounds amazing. Why 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 5: would I not want to take this opportunity to try 129 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 5: something new and expand my horizons. Even if I just 130 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: find out that I hated Utah, at least I get 131 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 5: to check, you know, another state off my list. So 132 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: I was very excited to try this out. And then 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 5: the pandemic happened and I didn't even get to go 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 5: to Utah in twenty four Wow. So yes, And then 135 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty one they opened it back up. I 136 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 5: still was able to continue my internship virtually, but in 137 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one it was the first year that we were 138 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: able to go out there. So my cohort, there's sixteen 139 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 5: of us, and. 140 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Now you said sixteen sixteen from the one HBCU or 141 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: attendant of various HBCUs around the country. 142 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty one, there was only one HBCU involved, 143 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: which was Howard University. But since then we've expanded to 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 5: work with other HBCUs like Morgan State, More House, Tuskigee, FAMU, 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: North Carolina A and c. So we're gradually expanding, but 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: that first two years were only Howard students. 147 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So basically you were kind of like the ambassadors 148 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: to the brand to see if your program worked, the 149 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: value of the program, So you set the tone for 150 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: the success of the program. Correct. 151 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: Yes, And you know, even though it was new, I 152 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: still had obviously had a great impact on me where 153 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: I thought, how can I get other students to get 154 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: involved with this? Be kind of scary to want to 155 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 5: go to Utah. I have no family out here. I 156 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: just was in Utah for two months during the summer 157 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 5: for my internship and they said, uh, it's August, come 158 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: move out here in two weeks. 159 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, really, okay, listen back to listen back 160 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: to this up that you know I've read your bio. 161 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, Charlotte, North Carolina went to Howard University, Salt 162 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah. Yes, you know. You know, first of all, 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: I think about the food. I think about let's let's 164 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: go kill the stereotypes. Now black people, black black people. 165 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: I got I gotta wonder where the black people at 166 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, Utah. Okay, And so so I 167 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: know I saw you your Bachelors of Art and Strategic 168 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Legal and Management Communication. Okay, so what did the word 169 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: adventure adventure you know, come up into this into your background? 170 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Who did you talk to? You talk to your parents, 171 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: you talk to your classmates, did you talk to anybody? 172 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: They went, girl, have you lost your mind? Why are 173 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: you going there? Because I got to get that side 174 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: of the story because you usually know all that I 175 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: lead all this little extra stuff out. Talk about that 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: that before you got on the plane to go to 177 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah for the first time. 178 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 5: Yes, that was an experience. Everybody they're like them, why 179 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: are you going to Utah? We'stern Utah. I was like, 180 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 5: I don't know, and people are trying to tell me different. 181 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: I didn't research anything about it. I wanted to be 182 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 5: completely surprised. I didn't want to have any biases against it, 183 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: and I just wanted to just soak in the whole 184 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 5: experience and see what I can get out of Utah 185 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 5: and what it would teach me about myself. And so 186 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 5: I just I thought, I was like, yeah, I'm going 187 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: to Utah. 188 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: They're like what. 189 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 5: I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna just go there for 190 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 5: the summer. My move there like that is crazy. But 191 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: ever since then, I've had family who would come out 192 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: here and my cousin and my dad, my mom. Wow, 193 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 5: Utah is such an amazing place, a hidden gym that 194 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 5: you and ha even thought of the quality of life 195 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 5: that you have here. But people always the first thing 196 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 5: I get asked about. 197 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Where really have so Samo, where are the black people 198 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, Utah? 199 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: They are everywhere. We have them often lay in just around. 200 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: It's not in a dense community, but they're kind of 201 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 5: spread out around Utah. But if once you meet one person, 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: you get to meet everybody in the community. It's a 203 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: very tight knit community. So there's a group chat that 204 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 5: we have. And when I first came here about a 205 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 5: year and a half ago, there were four hundred people 206 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 5: in there, and now there's six hundred people in there. 207 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: So it's just continues to grow. Theyre always have their 208 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: different hands in the community, like oh, wants to go 209 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: to the movies. Oh, we have this panel going on. 210 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 5: We're going to have this party to host us all together. 211 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 5: They are June teams. Here are all the festivities that 212 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: are happy involved. 213 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: As the legislator as I got je teeth in Salt 214 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah. 215 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 5: All right, all right, yes, Utah is not what you. 216 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Think it is. Okay, okay, now, but there are two Utahs. 217 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: There is a summer Utah and then there's a winter Utah. Okay, 218 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: see see the beauty of you. You were just doing 219 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: internships doing the summer during the summer. Did they tell you, hey, 220 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: did you want to start working here? Now? Had you 221 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: experienced the winter Utah at that point? No? I have not. 222 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: When I was about to move, I loved I love 223 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 5: the mountains, I can have this the beautiful view. And 224 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 5: then I'm like, oh yeah, I never rained here, and 225 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 5: I was like, great, it rained the first two weeks 226 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 5: I was there. After I moved there, I said, now 227 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 5: why did y'all live? See you like that better? One 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 5: show Wiper Blaze. But this last year wasn't as it 229 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 5: is snow as much in this year it has been 230 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 5: snowing every single day. I think it just snowed this morning. 231 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 5: Actually now the sun's out, so uh that's definitely. But 232 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: there's no humidity here, so that makes it different from 233 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: the East coast. 234 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely absolutely phone killings. 235 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 5: I think it's a bit more bearable. 236 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm talking to the program manager at the 237 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: University of Utah's HPCU Impact Program. This program allows students 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: during the summer where their company was, will pay for 239 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: the students' flights, housing, and salary over the summer, and 240 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: return to the University of Utah, will provide access to 241 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: HPCU students. That's what they're doing. They're trying to get 242 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: students to come there, live there, and possibly work there 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: to create a the more diverse and much more I 244 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: guess you know you learn by people you meet. You 245 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: in stereotype, stereotypes, and then even in this interview, we 246 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: laughing a lot, but we also ending stereotypes. Interviewing Samon Lawrence. 247 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: He's the program manager for the HPCU Impact Program. At 248 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: the top of the show, I gave out some information 249 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: about the success what I call Black excellence at HBCUs. 250 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give it out again just in case 251 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: you weren't there at the top of the show. Eighty 252 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: percent of the black judges in America graduate from HBCUs, 253 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the black doctors graduate from HBCUs, fifty 254 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: percent of the black lawyers graduate from HBCUs, forty percent 255 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: of the black engineers graduate from HBCUs. Forty percent of 256 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: the Black members of Congress graduate from HBCUs, fifty percent 257 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: of the black public school teachers graduate from HBCUs, twenty 258 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: five percent of the black stem professionals graduate from HBCU, 259 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: Seventy five percent of the Black veterinarians graduate from HBCUs, 260 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: seventy percent of the Black dentists graduate from HBCU's reason 261 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I say that with your program, HBCU impact, HBCUs deliver, 262 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: and they deliver academic success. So this program that they've 263 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: set up at University Utah really is basically inviting the 264 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: best of the best academically into the city of the 265 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: state of Utah and saw like city correct, Yes, you're 266 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: such a great talker, and I need you go yes. Yes, 267 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: Usually like followed up with the robust tones of encouragement, 268 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: and this is what I got out of This is 269 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: very close to you, Angela Davis. Moment I gave you 270 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: and you just said yes. But that's all right, that's 271 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: all right. I digress. The program started in twenty twenty 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: and you've been a product of the program. Now, the 273 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: program this is unique because as far as a PWI, 274 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: which is a predominant white institution. This is one of 275 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: the first that's ever been created for HBCUs. 276 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, this is correct. On campus, we're working out 277 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: reaching out to different R two institutions and hopefully we 278 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: can develop faculty exchanges as well, so not only focusing 279 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: on students, and we offer fifty percent off grad school 280 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: if the students participate in this program and then come 281 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: back at the U for any graduate degree. So it's 282 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 5: very impactful and just something new that I don't think 283 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 5: you see a lot of this at these higher education institutions. 284 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's unique because of the fact that 285 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: we all know that if you don't know that the 286 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: predominant amount, just like one hundred and seven HBCUs, the 287 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: predominant amount of hbcs are located in the southeastern part 288 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: of the country, and that's not by accident, because of 289 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: discriminatory practices not allowed black higher education in eighteen sixty five. 290 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Basically when HBCUs were founded, they were founded based as 291 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: a trade school, based on trade school, and then all 292 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden it led or then you had WV. 293 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Du Bois and then you had Booker T. Washington, Boogerty 294 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Washington emphasized trade school training. W W. E. B. Du 295 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: Bois emphasized academic. He wanted doctors, he wanted lawyers, he 296 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: wanted engineers. And so that really how hbc used the 297 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: core for the HBCU's drive that we see today came 298 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: out of that. And if we all know, the background 299 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: of Booker T. Washington was Tuskegee University. Now when you 300 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: talk about so when you talk about this program, that's 301 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: what makes it even more unique because you know Utah 302 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: is Utah is not near an HBCU. It's in the 303 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: part of the company country that is predominantly white. But 304 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: also so I wouldn't see this program being tied to 305 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't see like the University of Alabama, the University 306 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: of Georgia doing this because HBCUs are right around the 307 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: corner from there. But it's a blessing to me that 308 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: the University of Utah sees value in this type of 309 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: HBCU partnership because it gives not only a new experience 310 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: for you, but you get to share a part of 311 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: life that I wouldn't never have known about it. And when 312 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I found out about this opportunity, I immediately wanted you 313 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: on my show to talk about it. 314 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: Continue, Wow, thank you. So yes, this is such a 315 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: unique program for the Salt Lake City a life. You 316 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: don't know about it, but it's like number two fast 317 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: and growing city for business and the number one for 318 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 5: financial institutions. So bringing having me see that step out 319 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 5: of their comfort zone say, oh, you know, I want 320 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: to work at Google, I want to work at Apple. 321 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 5: But there are just so many other career passing like 322 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: tech companies, financial banking companies, or even just healthcare companies 323 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 5: in Salt Lake City that you wouldn't think about. We 324 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: have an area called Silicon Slope, which is just kind 325 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: of trying to replicate Silicon Valley in California, where we 326 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: have all these tech cubs like Adobe is located here 327 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: Weed and that you wouldn't think about because you're like, oh, 328 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 5: it's Utah. There's nothing out here for me. But just 329 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: having access to that and being able to know, oh, 330 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: I can go here, a lot of students don't think 331 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: that they can do something because they don't see themselves, 332 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 5: they don't see people like them in those situations. They're like, oh, 333 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 5: I wouldn't go to Utah because I don't see my 334 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 5: health here. But once you find out what the type 335 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 5: of opportunities that they have. I think it's just a 336 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 5: great opportunity for them come out here. And why wouldn't 337 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 5: you want to go where internship is offering you free flights, 338 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 5: paying for your housing, you get to go on fun activities. 339 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 5: I take from the southern Utah, get your headshots, work 340 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 5: on networking skills in this type community where usually students 341 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 5: are out here and you get an internship in another 342 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 5: state and you have to find housing, or you have 343 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: to pay for other things, or you have to figure 344 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: out what to do on the weekends. But I create 345 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 5: all that curriculum and I'm sitting here with these students like, hey, 346 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 5: I understand where you're coming from. You know, I went 347 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 5: to an HBCU, I went through this program, and now 348 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 5: I live in Salt Lake City. So anything you need 349 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 5: help navigating, I can be that for you. Give the 350 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: list of black pages. Here's the barbershops, here's the nail shop. 351 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 5: Here are some good food places to eat. As you 352 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 5: mentioned earlier, you know we had those hidden gyms. But 353 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 5: you need to reach out to that community and have 354 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 5: them engaged that they're able to see what resources are 355 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 5: out there for them. 356 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: Awesome. Here's the thing about it. When I listened to 357 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: you talk, you know the reason you're on my show 358 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: today money making conversations massic classes because people don't know 359 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: it's about promoting, it's about getting the word out about 360 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: because I always tell my story about working off shore 361 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: and people look at me. Really, how did you find 362 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: that out? I just happened to walk into you know, 363 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: career training at the University of Houston, and happened to 364 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: see it on board on the board, and I called 365 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: a number, and I had to go to like three 366 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: different interviews in the state of Louisiana. And while I 367 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: was eighty five miles out in the golf with a 368 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: story that I would also you know, the beauty even 369 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: if you didn't work there and you came back, but 370 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: the experience that you have of being in Salt Lake 371 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: City turn in the salt like Citi would have been 372 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: the ultimate blessing anyway. 373 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: Correct, Oh, yes, definitely, just because when you expand your 374 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 5: horizons to go out to different places where you don't 375 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 5: see people like you and get out your comfort zone, 376 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 5: it allows you to broaden your conversation topics. It allows 377 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 5: you to speak with people that you wouldn't necessarily think 378 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 5: you having being in commun with but now you have 379 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: this unique experience. You want to know, Oh, how did 380 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: you get here? What did you learn from there? Oh 381 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 5: you're not graid to be in uncomfortable situations like let's 382 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 5: talk more about you know what can I do for you? 383 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 5: Or and how can you help me? So I think 384 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 5: something very impactful about that. 385 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: Now I've read the Little Bio. I just say the bio, 386 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: not the little Bio, the bio. Now you have a 387 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: CEU alon. 388 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: Yes, So Rodney Cohen, we started this program in twenty 389 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: twenty and twenty twenty one. You realize there are other 390 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 5: HBCU programs on campus. There are about seven other programs 391 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: that work with students as well, like past make Your 392 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 5: programs of radiation safety programs and cancer research programs as 393 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: well on campus back here to HBCU students. And we 394 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: needed somebody to help manage all these different programs. So 395 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: Rodney Cohen has joined us, and he has been instrumental 396 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: to engaging with all these different universities and developing out 397 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 5: more of these partnerships. 398 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: Now you had the NBA All Star Game was there 399 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: and recently and I know they do a lot. I 400 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: think they're doing an HBCU game there at every HBCU 401 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: NBA All Stary event. I know that Chris Paul is 402 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: a number one ambassador for HBCUs and promoting the value 403 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: of HBCUs. I think he recently got his degree from 404 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: an HBCU. That's Chris Paul, NBA All Star, future Hall 405 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: of Fame or future Hall of Famer who now plays 406 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Suns. Did you guys benefit from any 407 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: exposure of the NBA All Star Weekend when it was 408 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: hosted in Salt Lake City the HPCU impact. 409 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: Yes, So the university actually hosted a number of ths 410 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 5: on campus. We hosted the HBCU Classic versus Southern and 411 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: Grambling and also hosted the g League game. And the 412 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 5: university a couple weeks before that came to us and say, 413 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: we heard about your program. How can you help support 414 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: you and help build up these black communities, And they 415 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 5: give us a gift of fifty thousand dollars, which has 416 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: been exciting news to hear, just to hear that the NBA, 417 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: since one of our partners is Utah Jazz, and they 418 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 5: have this to spread out in the community where reaches 419 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 5: up to those levels. We're like, we see what you're doing. 420 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: We support these students in this community. How can we 421 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 5: help you? And so that was. 422 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: That's interesting. You said you received a gift from fifty 423 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars donation to the HBCU Impact Program at the 424 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: University of Utah. What does one do with fifty thousand 425 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: dollars donation? What do you do? How does that benefit 426 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: your program? 427 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 5: So we recruit during the school year, we go to 428 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 5: these HBC's on campus and say hey, we want these 429 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: galleries resumes. It helps start travel, it helps for the 430 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 5: professor's development workshops that we try to pay for welcome 431 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: passages that we have with the students, and I host 432 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: the number of community events to get the black community 433 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 5: introduced to the students so that they can develop these 434 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 5: or re worships relationships, and so it just helps fund 435 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 5: having these farewell welcome events to take them out to 436 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 5: MOIP to experience the different what southern Utah is like, 437 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 5: which is more red rocks and what you would think 438 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: Flick is like. So just goes towards that development. And 439 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: we actually shared donation with the Black Cultural Censor on 440 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: campus where they're creating new program Generation Next and they're 441 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 5: trying to work with they're black students who are locally 442 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 5: and take them through these professional development workshops throughout the 443 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 5: year and then engage with our students over the summer 444 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: so they work with them as well. 445 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Simon, as we close out the interview, how can we 446 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: get in touch with you? Tell us more about any 447 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: social media handles, any website so that they can visit 448 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: to find out more about the HBCU Impact Program at 449 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: the University of Utah. 450 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 5: Yes, so if you go to Diversity dot Utah dot 451 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 5: edu and then type in HBCU Partnerships in the search part, 452 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 5: it will take you to all of the different partnerships 453 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 5: that we have on campus and the first one will 454 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 5: be HBCU Impact. 455 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking your time to 456 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: come on Money Making Conversations Masterclus. You enjoy I enjoy 457 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: your energy. 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