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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Roger Burnley with US, renowned transformational coach, speaker, creator of

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Speaker 2: Your Last Development Program, which is a groundbreaking initiative that

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Speaker 2: blends personal development, self actualization, and spiritual ascension. With decades

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Speaker 2: of experience, Roger's mental, personal and spiritual healing journey led

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Speaker 2: him to create a unique program designed to help individuals

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Speaker 2: transform their lives while contributing to the elevation of global consciousness.

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Speaker 2: His book is called Overcoming Fear, a Guide to Freedom. Roger, Welcome,

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Speaker 2: How are you, my friend?

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Speaker 3: George. I'm doing great and it's so good to be

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Speaker 3: with you again.

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Speaker 2: It really is. I don't think our Ability Beyond Belief

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Speaker 2: show has popped up on the air yet, but you

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Speaker 2: did a great job for us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. No, it did come out.

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Speaker 2: It finally enough. Yeah, excellent, because when we got together

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Speaker 2: a couple more months.

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Speaker 3: Ago, it was in June. Yeah, it was in June.

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Speaker 2: Oh quickly, time flies? Huh, Yes, have you been.

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Speaker 3: I've been good? And more has more has unfolded since

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Speaker 3: our last thought and so I'm so glad I could

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Speaker 3: be here today. And the thing I was supposed to

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Speaker 3: tell you and everyone else is that you are still

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Speaker 3: the answer, meaning that what we're moving through now, that

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Speaker 3: every person alive is the answer to the change that

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Speaker 3: we're moving through, which was all the work that I

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Speaker 3: have been bringing to the world because it's been a

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Speaker 3: little uncomfortable for a lot of people, but it's also

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Speaker 3: been very purposeful because we're trying to create something a

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Speaker 3: little bit better. But to do that, we've got to

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Speaker 3: just like change the old verse, which is what's.

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Speaker 2: Happening absolutely, Roger, What got you on this path? What

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Speaker 2: started you?

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Speaker 3: It's when I when I first think about it, the

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Speaker 3: first thing. And it's interesting because today there's synchronicity that

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Speaker 3: happens in our lives and in the world. And today

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Speaker 3: I posted something that was my very first message that

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Speaker 3: I wrote because I started with automatic writing, and that

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Speaker 3: was on February nineteenth of nineteen eighty nine. That was

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Speaker 3: the first message that I wrote. Now, and when you

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Speaker 3: say what got me started, it was that I was

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Speaker 3: just lost. Actually, I was making a big career change

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Speaker 3: at that time and I heard about automatic writing. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't really didn't think I had any talent. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know if I was going to do it, but I said,

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Speaker 3: let me try it. I just needed something to give

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Speaker 3: me some direction. I had been meditating for a while

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Speaker 3: before that, I done many other things, but I said,

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Speaker 3: let me try this. I sat down for a few days,

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Speaker 3: nothing happened, and then one day information started coming through

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Speaker 3: at first because it was like something took over in

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Speaker 3: my hand just started writing. And this information that was

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Speaker 3: coming was not me because it was beyond what I knew,

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Speaker 3: and it surprised me. And because of that, I actually

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Speaker 3: kept it quiet. I didn't even tell people what I

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Speaker 3: was doing. I attempted to do that for many years,

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Speaker 3: or probably about twenty years. I mean some family and

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Speaker 3: receiving results from this work. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: I was still going through a lot of really difficult

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Speaker 3: this work was giving me the solutions that I could

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Speaker 2: Roger explain what automatic writing is.

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Speaker 3: It was we all have consciousness and people say, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't hear anything I don't really know. We all

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Speaker 3: have consciousness, and when we get quiet, we hear something.

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Speaker 3: And I tell people all the time, think about when

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Speaker 3: you were in school, for instance, and you were asked

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Speaker 3: had to go somewhere to get that information, and that

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Speaker 3: is your consciousness. But what I also believe is that

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Speaker 3: there's a higher consciousness of which were all a part

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Speaker 3: of that. When we can make that connection, we start

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Speaker 3: to get in touch with our authentic selves. And what

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Speaker 3: I know is that everyone has that, and every single

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Speaker 3: Our job is to make something better when we come

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Speaker 2: Have you always wanted to be a spiritual teacher?

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Speaker 3: No? I ran from the Georgia. I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: do that. Well, and I'll tell it. I for okay,

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Speaker 3: and I'll tell you the story. Because I started in

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Speaker 3: The first messages that were actually published came out in

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Speaker 3: And I had suffered through fear my entire life being

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Speaker 3: And that's just a bridge too far for a lot

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Speaker 3: that I received from February nineteenth. Because there is a

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Speaker 3: synchronicity that happens if we can imagine that our consciousness

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Speaker 3: but it's always no matter. As long as we're alive,

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Speaker 3: we're learning more and so. But the planet is doing

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Speaker 3: the same thing we as individuals. And then we have

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Speaker 3: Mark talked about it yesterday as well.

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Speaker 2: This guidance you received Roger back in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: I would sit down and write a specific question, Please

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Speaker 3: I heard very clearly, why are you asking the questions?

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Speaker 2: Pretty dramatic. Yeah, planetary ascension. What does that mean to you?

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Speaker 3: They're the same. They're all the same. And that's the

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Speaker 3: We're just moving to this global understanding, because what we've

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately it caused a little more division, but even that

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Speaker 3: was like, don't be afraid of what you're saying or

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Speaker 3: we're going through a very stressful time, we have to

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Speaker 2: Everybody at Gaya when we were taping Beyond Belief talked

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Speaker 3: It's the result of the process. Because I was not

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Speaker 3: know the restructurings from many people are calling it a

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Speaker 3: big shift or something like that. My guy said, no,

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Speaker 3: it's a restructural We don't want you to think anything

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Speaker 3: the other part of that, the reason they kept insisting

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Speaker 3: have been all those people. If we think of ourselves

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Speaker 3: as eternal spiritual beings, then we've had other lifetimes, or

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Speaker 3: we've done some terrible things and all that. So maybe

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Speaker 3: we should practice some forgiveness first on ourselves and then

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Speaker 3: that everyone's not going to do that, so it becomes

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Speaker 2: Roger, how important is being spiritual to the mix of

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Speaker 3: I think it's quite important, except the words get really

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Speaker 3: didn't talk about this for so long, George. If I

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Speaker 3: had been talking about maybe a traditional religion, that might

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Speaker 3: to believe that they have a purpose, that they had

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Speaker 2: Do people sometimes get bombarded by demonic forces?

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Speaker 3: They can and and but they can also change them.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anything. I think we have the ability

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Speaker 3: some our evolutionary paths or journey that we accept it

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Speaker 3: is how I like to think of it. To move through,

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think anyone's being punished for anything.

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Speaker 3: They accepted certain things to move through in this life,

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Speaker 3: to go that that's going to help them evolve on

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Speaker 3: Samantha last night was speaking something about that as well.

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Speaker 3: We come in and we have different life experiences, and

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Speaker 3: so when we can start to accept that a little

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Speaker 3: bit more, we let go of that judgment. Because we're

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Speaker 3: always talking about energy again, and the energy of love

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Speaker 3: is the highest form and it's the most so more

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Speaker 3: of us who can embody that not only do we heal,

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