1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. Oh, summer has clothed the 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: earth in a cloak from the loom of the sun 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: and a mantle two of the sky's soft blue and 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 1: a belt where the rivers run. And now for the 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: kiss of the wind and the touch of the air 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: is soft hands, with the rest from strife and the 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: heat of life, with the freedom of lakes and lands. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Black Guy Toes podcast, your host 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: Rod ed Carrie. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 3: Are we're in the house on a Sunday morning. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 4: Yes, walking down Sunday morning. 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: That's right, walking Dad is back for the three of 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: us who still like the show I do. 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: I want to know who we are. 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 5: And we'll be recapping for those of you that out 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 5: there and go I won't you or we going? 18 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: We is all the way back. 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: I feel like we should all be charged up after 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: seeing the naugarea get off. 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: In black panther. 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Come on, she's gonna come back and now show her 23 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: swords skills, and I'll think we should all. 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: Celebrate that in unity tonight at nine pm. 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 5: This was her life before she went to Wakanda, you know, 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 5: because you know if she was to actually go back, 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 5: she would bring some of the advancements that they had. 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 4: They can do Zombis wouldn't stand the chain. 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: They could really use some vibranium and in Alexandria and 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: then uh. In addition to that, we have a very 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: special guest. Guys, hopefully you recognize your voice from the 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: end of the show. But this is her first time 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: on our show. But she's the co host of the 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: podcast with Sanndery with Marsha and Ray. I'm a big 35 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: fan and uh, it's Marsha Belski. 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 6: What's going on, Marshia, Hello, thank you so much for 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 6: having me. 38 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: Who's the one who's the person from Black Panther that's 39 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: also in Walking. 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: Dead Akoye, the one who was the general. She Yeah, 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: she playsche On in The Walking Dead and she has 42 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: this horrible like Drey lock Wig. 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: And Black Panther. She was just bald headed and kicking ass. 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the funniest part when she's wearing the wigs 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: and she's in the casino or whatever. 46 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: Just with me back and forth. 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 5: Yes, I put on a social media I said I 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 5: want my husband to love me like like her. Weik 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: fight for me and love me like that week that 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: we took a whole grown ass man out. 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: And now, Marsha, this is your first time on the show, 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: and no, we're very familiar with it work. I like 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: to kind of get the audience familiar. Yes, first of all, 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: how did you come up with massandry the podcast? And 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: then how did you get Ray as part of it? 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: So I have you ever heard of these podcasts people 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: called Keith and the Girl. 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we love them. 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: So they do. They do a podcast and they did 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: this like vip thing where they asked me to come 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: do just six episodes that their people could pay extra 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: and like downlim So when I did that, I decided 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: to call that massandry with Marcia because I've always sort 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: of wanted to call something massandry because you know, when 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: you're a feminist, no matter what you do, people are 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: gonna call you a missandris, which is the opposite for misogyny, which, 67 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: of course massandry isn't really a thing. I mean, it 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: could be a thing that doesn't hold like institutional power 69 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: and the way. 70 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 7: That misogyny does. 71 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, when you're a feminist, you 72 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: can just open your mouth and be like good morning, 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: and people are like, you hate men, you're a missandris like, 74 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: so I just wanted to call it that sort of like, well, 75 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: let me just call myself that so we can get 76 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: that out of the way, you know, and move on 77 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: to the next step. 78 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 7: Is kind of so my first guess, Yeah. 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's kind of funny because like 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: people do that with black shit whatever, Like this group 81 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: is a black supremacist group, and I'm like, what the fuck. 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: Does that mean? 83 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: Like we'd have to reverse like centuries of oppression to 84 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: even get to a point where you could be like, uh, 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: you know what the problem are these black people in power? Man? 86 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 7: That's really it's so true. 87 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's like they're leaders of every single country 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: in the world. You know. It's really scary. Yeah, the 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: black supremacy stuff too. It's like it would be more 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: funny if the US government didn't think that exact same way. 91 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Come on, they like they only watched like, you know, 92 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: quote unquote black supremacist groups, which are really mostly black 93 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: lives Matter teenagers, right, and then like look, there are 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: these actual literal white supremacy pocket cells that are like 95 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: springing up around the country and they're like. 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they call them like black identity extremists, and I'm like, like, 97 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: even in your way of like like trying to over 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: sell what they do, but I call them identity extremists. 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: Even that is way below like a white supremacist group. 100 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: Yes, like yeah, they're like yes, they're like you cling 101 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: to your black identity. 102 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 7: That's really scary. 103 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: And this other person's like I will kill everyone who's 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: not white, and they're like, oh, Tray, you're so funny. 105 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 106 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: I mean so, So then my first guests on that 107 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: Missantie with Marsha was Ray Saani and me and Ray 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: like you know, known each other and seen each other 109 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: at shows, and it was like every time we would talk, 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: we would get these really like sort of like long 111 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: deep conversations, and so I wanted her to be my 112 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: first guest, and so then I did like five more episodes. 113 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: They were all great, but the feedback we kept getting 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: was like that episode with you and Ray was really special. 115 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: You guys have really good chemistry. So then it was 116 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: kind of funny because we both basically they re released 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: our episode like almost a year after we did it, 118 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: and we both texted each other like at the same time, 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: like we should do a podcast, like you know, we 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: were like, yeah. 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 7: We should definitely do something. 122 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: So then we did, and you know, it's hard because 123 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: like we were bad about getting guests, Like we just 124 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: figured out how easy this skyping podcasting it. Like I 125 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: wish we had done that when she was just in 126 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: New York because then we could have done so much more, 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: Like it was always so hard coordinating it. So now 128 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: she's in LA working on The Good Place, and so 129 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: we skype podcast now. 130 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 7: But yeah, so that's how we started. 131 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I just like you know, asked her to be on 132 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: this show and then it worked out so great and 133 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: it was. 134 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 7: Like so fun because it's great. 135 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: It's funny because like when me and Ray record, like 136 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: when Ray comes over to my house, that's just like 137 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: what we do, except for that conversation goes on for 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: like four hours until I have to like kick her out, 139 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I gotta go to bed. Like so 140 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: it's nice that we get to record it because almost 141 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: sometimes when we're talking, I'm like, man, I wish I 142 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: could record this, and I think we've both don't realize 143 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: that what we're saying is so radical to certain people. 144 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: And then once we realized that we were Like I 145 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: remember like myself being sort of like isolated. I grew 146 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: up in Oklahoma and like my mom was a feminist 147 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: and I would like scream at her that she hated 148 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: men until I was like seventeen years old. Like people don't. 149 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 7: Understand like this has been. 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Like you know, I used to be very embarrassed by feminism, 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: and so I wanted I was like, this is cool, 152 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, we should put out there this sort of 153 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: like because people always give me this false compliment of like, well, 154 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I like you for a feminist, you know, and it's 155 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: like there are a lot of us Like this idea 156 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: you have a feminist is not real, you know. Right. 157 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, kind of fun too, just to poke fun 158 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: at these like men's rights guys with the massandry stuff 159 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: because they say the most horrific shit and then they 160 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: clutch their pearls like and come after us and they're like, 161 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: you're a sexist. 162 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 7: It's like, oh, do you hate sexism? 163 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Now? 164 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: That's weird because men are so like fragile. I guess 165 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: people are privileged in whatever the situation is, are very fragile, right, 166 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: So anyone who's kind of like advocating for any level 167 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: of like fairness or decency is immediately like a threat 168 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: and needs to be dealt with, and you're you're disturbing 169 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: the order of things. Keep in mind, it doesn't even 170 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: matter that you don't have any real power right now. 171 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: Like it's not like like it's not like we really 172 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: walked outside and there's a militia of women in the 173 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: woods just taking me in out one by one, you know, 174 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: like this just men. What happened to that dude last week? 175 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: Right? 176 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean a secret. I mean, that's not 177 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: a militia that everyone knows about yet. 178 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: But I'm. 179 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: You know, but like if men go missing or something, 180 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: we don't like, we don't immediately go like, oh, I 181 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: guarantee a woman killed him. But like if a woman 182 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: goes missing, everyone's first I was like, what dude fucking 183 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: did that? But there are men who are like spend 184 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: time saying that. 185 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: I was like when he was like trying to argue 186 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: that violence is not just proportionally men, and I was like, 187 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: when someone as you automatically know it's a man that 188 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: kills them, here, if it's a woman, that's that's the 189 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: like sort of exception to the rule. 190 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: Every episode of dateline is just like this nigga killed 191 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: this woman. 192 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: Every episode is the. 193 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: Same snapped, right, Well, Snap is a Snap is a 194 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: show that that resonates because it is so rare that 195 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: women kill men that we're like, oh my god, how 196 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: the fuck did this happen? 197 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm meaning. 198 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I like to glorify that and make it as though 199 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: it's actually equal. 200 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 7: Like one woman. 201 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: Kills a man and there's one hundred men that kill 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: a woman, know a thousand men that kill women. They'll 203 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: look at that one woman and be like, women murder 204 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: men too? 205 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 7: What? Yeh? 206 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: I just think all murder I don't think anyone should 207 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 2: ever murder anyone. 208 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: So I just think we should all agree there. Yes, 209 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: another thing. 210 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 7: I believe certain men should be murdered, so it's like 211 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 7: we agree to the c. 212 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: Another thing, I heard you on Dylan and showed. 213 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: The conversations with people who hate me who We met 214 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: him at Podcon. 215 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: He was a narrator, was he was a moderator of 216 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: our panel. Care he's really cool? 217 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah so he Uh but I listened to your 218 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: episode and oh my god. 219 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 7: Let's talk about it. 220 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: I haven't even been able to listen to it because 221 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: I think experiencing it was already a little overwhelming for me. Yeah, 222 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: irly ever listened to myself on podcasts. 223 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting because this dude sought you out 224 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: to tell you that you were a bigot because you 225 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: said that you said men are scum, which notoriously gets 226 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: everyone kicked off of Facebook, even even on a delay, 227 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: like I said it out of solidarity, and then like 228 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: a month later there was like, yo, ass gotta go. 229 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: I was like, for what, I didn't even do ship, 230 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: but I needed to break. 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 7: That's what happened to. 232 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: If you remember, like when Ray had that really awful 233 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: period where all of these like alt right, like super 234 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: right wing conservative trolls were mobilized against her because they 235 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: had photoshops some tweet where she was replying to some 236 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: guy who was baiting her and she goes, yep, I 237 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: hate white people, especially you, and then like they they 238 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: they cut out what he had been saying and passed 239 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: this around like thousands of people. So when they were 240 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: coming after her, they found a menar skum post from 241 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: like months ago and got her band and then this 242 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: is the whole thing. Then someone messaged her like these 243 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: awful things like you know, kill yourself and word and like, 244 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: and then Facebook didn't remove that stuff. Yea, well it 245 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: does like they removed her. 246 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: Their policies guys, Okay, they the standards in decency of Facebook, 247 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: they're not violated. 248 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: I have so two of the people actually reached out 249 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: from Facebook personally because I'm such an honery shit you know, 250 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: like I'm never gonna stop. I've collected like hundreds of 251 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: these screenshops. I'm just purely motivated from being pissed off. 252 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: So like they emailed me, I think in some ways 253 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: to see if they could talk to me to get 254 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: me to shut up. I realized they're paying me total 255 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: lip service. So now whenever they remove something totally audacious, 256 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: like they removed masculinity is toxic. After this latest shooting, 257 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: they banned somebody for posting that. So I messaged them 258 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: screenshots of shit that they removed that they shouldn't and 259 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: I just say, keep up the good work, period. So 260 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: like one of them's like the head of Community standards, 261 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: and a couple of times they've gotten back to me 262 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: like we'll look into it, you know. So now I 263 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: just kind of troll them a little bit and do 264 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: their job for them. 265 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 7: But so, yeah, so the men are scum. 266 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: It's frustrating too, because what the actual story is. I mean, like, 267 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I think you should be able to say men are trash, 268 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: like you know, that's an emotion that women are feeling. 269 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: They should be allowed to process that in this world. 270 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: And but for me, my specific thing was this girl 271 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: during the day like of me too, was like posted 272 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: this list like things that men can do better, and 273 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: it was so easy. It was like talk to your 274 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: creepy friends, you know, like very basic shit, and men 275 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: exploded at her like they like said the most awful shit. 276 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: And then this one guy was like, this is why 277 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to help women, and it's like, oh, 278 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna be the biggest help to our cause. 279 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Before that sirved. But like, so she posted a screenshot 280 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: of like two hundred photos of these men harassing her online, 281 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: and I commented, men are scum, Like you know, I 282 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: was like, obviously kind of sarcastic, and no man I 283 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: know would be offended by that. I'm sorry, Like, Rod, 284 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: are you offended by that? Like that seems crazy? Obviously 285 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about those men. 286 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: Well, even here's the thing even as a man. Though, 287 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: we know that men are gone because we exactly every 288 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: time something happens to a woman with that involves a man, 289 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: we just go why are you around a man, which 290 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: means we admit that men are scumb We don't ever 291 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: go like, men, I can't believe that man would do that. 292 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: That is so exactly we're like, what the fuck you 293 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: had that they. 294 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 7: Are allowed to call men's gum? 295 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Facebook technically doesn't allow it for anybody, but 296 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: in society, like, if a dad goes to his daughter, 297 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: men are trash, that's totally fine. If the daughter goes 298 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: to the dad, men are trash, the dad's like, how 299 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: did I raise such a sexist girl? 300 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: Like it's a trope that every time someone goes to 301 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: prome or dance or something, the dad takes the fucking 302 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: dude to society. He's like, listen, my daughter, I will 303 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: take your life. I will do whatever I have to 304 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: do take my daughter from you and your penis. 305 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: And but if that, but if that. 306 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: Girl came there dad and was like, Dad, I think 307 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: men are trash, he would be like, what the fuck 308 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: what about me? 309 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm a man, I raised you? What about your uncle? 310 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: He did. 311 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: It's like, but you can't have both because those dudes 312 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: are strangers to some other girl. 313 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: What the fuck right? 314 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: And what people fail to realize? 315 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 5: Everybody throughout their history, even the most wokest man today 316 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 5: did some trash ass shit to someone in his lifetime. 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 5: You might to rape them, you might not have beat them, 318 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: you might not be doing shit as foul, but you 319 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: did something fucked up. So nobody is into this rule because. 320 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: You have a whole society that is geared towards throwing 321 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: one gender away. So you have taken advantage that, whether 322 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: you want it to or not. It's just it's it's 323 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: impossible for It's like saying I'm a white person but 324 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: I've never had any white privilege like that. That's fucking impossible, 325 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: like like me, not other than Marcia and the white 326 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: people like you know, but not, but it's impossible, right, 327 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: you know, I. 328 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: Feel but I think, dudes, what well? 329 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: Privilege makes people feel attacked to even admit that exist. 330 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: That's the backlash against some of the lesser behavior too. 331 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: That's coming out with me too, is this sort of 332 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: like if men are if we're really going to talk 333 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: about all men, there are a lot of men who 334 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: are going to fight against that. So they're dying breath 335 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: because they don't want that societal check in. Because a 336 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of men are going to be in trouble because 337 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: they know they've abused their privilege, but they did it 338 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: thinking that they were protected in their public lives. Right, 339 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: So if that changes, if men actually become accountable for 340 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: their private behavior with women in their public reputation the 341 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: way that women always have been, then they're going to 342 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: be in trouble. Yeah, you know, And that's what men 343 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: are really fighting against when they're making up this me 344 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: too backlash that doesn't exist. And like and like you 345 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: were saying earlier, it would be one thing if any 346 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: of these guys are actually punished. Harvey Weinstein's not in 347 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: jail like they act like women actually have some sort 348 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: of institutional power. And even when we have so much 349 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: societal attention, we don't actually get to impose a lot 350 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: of true consequences. All we can do is try and 351 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: kick them out of their social circle. 352 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: And honestly, dog like, what the fuck is supposed to 353 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: happen when I find out you're grabbing pussies at work 354 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: and I'm supposed to wait for a fucking court of 355 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: law before I can fire you, because like that now 356 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm complicit if I am a workplace, you know, not 357 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: to mention. In ninety nine percent of these fucking cases, 358 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: every time someone loses a job, it's already been investigated 359 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: and the company didn't do shit, and then I got 360 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: embarrassed and then they had to move on it. Like 361 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: it's like, well, now that everyone knows, we know he 362 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: grabs whuzzies, I think we need to let him go. 363 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: And people are still like, that is so unfair to 364 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: that man. 365 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: I can't believe. Yeah, they would. 366 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Do people who are gonna sympathize with him, and I 367 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: think it's that what's hard is that I was thinking 368 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: about this the other day, about why white men just 369 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: really elicit that sympathy, even from people like us who 370 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: like try not to. Sometimes I find myself like the 371 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: first time I read Luisyk's statement to my great shame, 372 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: I was like. 373 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 7: I guess that's pretty good. 374 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: And then I was like rereading it and I was like, oh, 375 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: Jesus fucking Christ. You know, like my instinct, as much 376 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: as I fight it is still in some ways this 377 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: like apologist, even though like you know, I try really 378 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: hard not to be, and I'm not for the most part. 379 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: But I think it really goes back to how, like, 380 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, we all grow up relating to white male 381 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: characters on screen, right, and don't relate to us, And 382 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: I think that that directly plays into the sort of 383 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: empathy where we're used to seeing them as these complex 384 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: characters that should be allowed flaws, and they are not 385 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: used to seeing anyone else that way. 386 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 387 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 2: I find it interesting when I used to watch like 388 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: Breaking Bad or mad Man, uh if I were live 389 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: tweet it, because I would watch it way after everybody else. 390 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: But if I were live tweet it, like people would 391 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: get mad because I would be like, well, actually, I 392 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: think his wife kind of has a point. I mean, 393 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: this nigga just went from science teacher the drug dealer. 394 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: Why the fuck are y'all mad at her? And then 395 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: people like, well, she's such a bitch. I was like, 396 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: I'd be a bitch too if Kars playing fucking meth. 397 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 7: She's supposed to be the voice of reason. 398 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: She's like the Lisa Simpson thing where he goes where 399 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: they tried to use that as an insult recently, like 400 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: I always love Lisa Simpson growing up, and I remember 401 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: all the boys, including my brother. 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 7: Who's now a good man, was like, you know, would say. 403 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: Like Lisa is so annoying, and like I was always like, oh, 404 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: that's very clearly who I relate to the most, and 405 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm very clearly the one society sees us annoying. Right, 406 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: And then both Matt Gronning and the creator of Breaking 407 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: Bad publicly said numerous times you all need to stop 408 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: hitting this character. 409 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 7: She's not meant to be hated. You're supposed to hate him. 410 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: I think it's that people in America aren't smart enough 411 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: to actually understand the nuance of the anti hero. Ray 412 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: and I talked about the anti hero on our podcast 413 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: the other day, like the anti hero is not supposed 414 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: to be liked, and we've taken this thing in America 415 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: where now we actually do like and glorify the anti hero, 416 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: and then it like gives us Donald Trump, you know, 417 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: like he's the ultimate anti hero. 418 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we should be like like, I don't mind the 419 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: kind of like a comedic celebration of like, oh, remember 420 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: like Doc, you just fucked up shit or something like 421 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: I love like I get it, Like Magneto was right 422 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: and all this shit it's like, oh, that's so. 423 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, No I thought I thowt you treating about that? 424 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, But like Magneto also like buried the fucking ship 425 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 2: of like innocent sailors and shit, like he's like he 426 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: also is kind of fucked up. We don't need to 427 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: like follow them, but yes, I get the shirt. 428 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: I love it. It's hilarious. 429 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: But there is like this like seriousness to some of 430 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: the like relations with anti heroes where and especially white 431 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: male anti heroes, where you do get like a Tony soprano, 432 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: or you do get like you know, Breaking Bad or 433 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: mad Man. But then I remember like the response to Scandal, 434 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: which is essentially the same type of show, where it's 435 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: just a black woman that is doing a bunch of 436 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: shady shit every week and people are like, this bitch 437 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: is setting us back. 438 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: Also, what's wrong with this woman? 439 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: She needs to be Like it's like a complete different 440 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: moral compass that women have to navigate. 441 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: It is anything that you see on television and like 442 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: the creative realm where the role was written may have 443 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: been written for a. 444 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: Man and they'll put a woman in that role. 445 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 5: Don't change anything, don't change the work, don't change attitude anything, 446 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: just say, we're gonna put a one in this same 447 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 5: exact road. Make her an ass, make her bomb, make her, 448 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 5: you know, the person that everybody has to respect, regardless 449 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 5: of what's going on. You know, she ain't got a dick, 450 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 5: but we're gonna make her swing her dick around, you know, 451 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 5: and make everybody bow down to her. You know, we're 452 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 5: gonna make her come in the room, cuts everybody out, 453 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 5: and they're gonna go, yes, ma'am and leave the room 454 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: and keep a truck. And we're gonna have her come 455 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: in and demand to have the room like. We're gonna 456 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 5: give her the characteristics that we praise all men for 457 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: in some of our CEOs and your bosses and manager 458 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 5: just to show their ass. And it's always scholar is 459 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 5: a good boss. You know, that's the way you're supposed 460 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 5: to do it, you're supposed to treat. But for her, 461 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 5: you get these character ris but she's a bit well 462 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: you know, the character is actually writing for a man. 463 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: So that means you are you saying that that that 464 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: the men are bitches too? Are you saying that you 465 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: know what I mean? 466 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what you're saying. But because you actually 467 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 5: view it from a female's perspective, those things change and 468 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: something else I wanted to back up on something else. 469 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 4: Actually, that just me out. 470 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 5: Why is it that women are always divorced to reason, 471 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 5: and then when men are always divorced the reasons they 472 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 5: get put on the motherfucking pattist to where you like, bitch, 473 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 5: I've been saying this forever. 474 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: You put your dick in here and you got me. 475 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: This shit don't make no sense. 476 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: I mean, and you're. 477 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: Not mad at the man, don't get me wrong. 478 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 5: You're mad at the fact that society ignores you because 479 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 5: you've been saying this shit for mother something. 480 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: Ever, it's like in Black Panther, how people walked out 481 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: and they're like, I'm teens to Childa or I'm teaming 482 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: kill Mark, and I'm like, but it's team Nikia because 483 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: Nikia was Nikia had the whole idea for the movie, 484 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: and the rest of the movie is just everyone catching 485 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: up to Nikia like, oh, actually, that's actually kind of 486 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: like you know that thing. 487 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I love Black Panther for that, Whereas one of the 488 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: only movies I've ever seen where the women at no 489 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: part were just exploited by. 490 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 7: The men, like there's no except. 491 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: For when kill Monger is notably supposed to be treating 492 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: the older women like badly, but like there's no part 493 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: where it's so filmed through the mail gates that you're 494 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: just like fucking gag me, Like wonder Woman, I was like, 495 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: this is filmed by a woman, but there's still a 496 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: very strong malekiz. 497 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: It's wild because with Black Panther, I feel like, you know, 498 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: there's obviously still a patriarchal society, right because there's a 499 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: king and he's in charge. Although in that dream vision, 500 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 2: I swear I saw a woman three. 501 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 4: Times there were women in the background. 502 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: So there were women. So there ye women Black Panthers so. 503 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,959 Speaker 2: Correct, And I think now now I want like a 504 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: whole ass, like just right, like, give me the lineage 505 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: of all the Black Panthers. I want to see how 506 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: they ran. 507 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: Give me a comic book. They just get make. 508 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: Prequels and sequels like it's gonna be so. 509 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 7: I bet they'll make at least two or three movies, 510 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 7: don't you think. 511 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: I think so. 512 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: So maybe it's uh so I'm saying it's patriarchal, but 513 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: maybe it's we don't know. Maybe there are women that 514 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: have also been whatever. But My point isn't even that. 515 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: My point is this, The only difference is just that 516 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: the one dude was kind of like, I'm gonna listen 517 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: to and believe the women around me, and the other. 518 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: Dudes just like fuck that shit. That's the whole difference. 519 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Like it's such a simple like difference between the two, 520 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: but it made all the difference in the movie. And 521 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: that's something I've never seen in the movie before, Like 522 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: it's always kind of been like and then my girlfriend. 523 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: Got kidnapped, so I have to beat up the bad guy. 524 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Or exactly, like and it's so boring too. 525 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 7: It's like, just stop making movies like that. 526 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: It's tired. Well, and Karen, what you were saying, like 527 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: I was thinking about people said this kind of around 528 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: the Hillary Clinton election, which is that society does this thing. 529 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: And Patton Oswald did a bit about how in most 530 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: major movies they were directed by a man and edited 531 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: by a woman, and that is because there's this real 532 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: and it's still very strong that women are best when 533 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: they're not denying that we have these great skills at 534 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: this point, but women are the best when we lend 535 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: our skills to a man as opposed to use it 536 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: for our own power. So when a woman uses her 537 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: skills for her own power, people are like, I don't 538 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: know what it is. 539 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 7: She's just kind of a bit, you know. 540 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: And when a woman uses her skills mostly to lend 541 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: them for a man's purpose, people are like, she's so great. 542 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: You know, women are great women. 543 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: But you know, also, isn't that funny that like the 544 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: one area that we're like, we need a woman to 545 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 2: do this is when they tell dudes to shut up, like, 546 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: all right, cut this out, move this around, yes, ed, 547 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: edit this man's comments because obviously he is a man 548 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: and heed this movie. 549 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: But if you could just get a woman in. 550 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 7: You need to take from here to hear, could you 551 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 7: just like fix. 552 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: This and move this all right? 553 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 5: And and the thing is, and I think that a 554 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: lot of that stems down to how dare a woman 555 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 5: actually gets credit for her work, because I think some 556 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: people just don't like to give women praise. Some people 557 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: just don't like to give women credit. And that boils 558 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 5: down to a lot of shit. Like a woman's worth 559 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 5: is to a husband, a woman's worth is to a children. 560 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 4: A woman's worth is how she dedicated to her family. 561 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: A woman's worth is not at all. 562 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 5: Right, well, she made me clean my room, she made 563 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 5: me get this other ship. And then also I think 564 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: that for men, their worth is their career, Their worth 565 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 5: is their accomplishments. Their worth is they get to go 566 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: out and change the world. Women don't get to do that. 567 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: If women try to go out here, motherfucking change, well, 568 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 5: people lose their goddamn minds. 569 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: Right, it's you know, it's funny. I follow I follow 570 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 2: Lexi Alexander on Twitter. We follow each other. We tell 571 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: he like best friends. She listen to the show Guys anyway. 572 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: But I saw her talking about how like she's a 573 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: former kickboxing champion and like, oh, she gets the direct 574 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 2: action movies and stuff now action TV shows. But she's like, 575 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: you know, how many fucking like just nerdy ass dudes 576 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: have gotten to like have that job and they don't 577 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: have to like express any expertise, like they've never thrown 578 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: a plane. 579 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: It takes so long for people to trust a woman 580 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: with power and control. 581 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: It's really frustrating. 582 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: But that's why we get set up and people act 583 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: like we're greedy, and it's like, that's why it's been 584 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: really nice to just start this like matriarchy in my 585 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: mind where I'm like, oh, what if I just mostly 586 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: work with women so that I don't have to deal 587 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: with that bullshit, you know, like and it really changes 588 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: things because there is a certain point, even with good 589 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: men who aren't used to a female environment, where they're 590 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: just like subconsciously like they're like just gonna make you 591 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: wait a little longer. That was always my experiencing comedy. 592 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: These dudes who I knew I was funnier than, would 593 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: get taken on the road before me, because these guys 594 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: would like feel this need to nurture them and they're like, 595 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Marsha will be all right, She'll be good, you know. 596 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: And it's like I need your help too, you know, 597 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Like I need the same sort of mentorship, you know, 598 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: and I never got that, And I was funnier than 599 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: these dudes, so it's like, why don't you see me? 600 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Like that happened so much in comedy, where like you 601 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: go up and like you'll have a great set. The 602 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: dude after you is fine but not as funny as you, 603 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and the big headliner will march straight up to that 604 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: dude and be like, what's up, dude, blah blah blah, 605 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: how are you doing? And just be like, oh hey, 606 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: you like you know, like they don't even think about it. 607 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard you talk about and trust you, guys, 608 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to get back to the podcast, but I've 609 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: heard you talk about like being at like the bar 610 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 2: or whatever with the other comedians and having dudes kind 611 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: of like treat you like, oh, this must who this 612 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: lost woman must have gotten over here with the comedians. 613 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: Excuse me? Yes, you know why did I thank you? 614 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: Was somebody groupie or something and you just showed up? 615 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it doesn't happen in all scenes, Like, 616 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: it's definitely a different different places, but in the New 617 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: York scenes in like a lot of the clubs, like 618 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: and only certain of the clubs, like you know. And 619 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: also it was different when I was younger. This is 620 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: the thing that I mean, I'm not old, like you know, 621 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm twenty eight, but I started comedy when I was nineteen. 622 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: I was lying about being like twenty two until for 623 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: like three years. And then when I was like this 624 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: twenty one year old girl, it was a lot harder 625 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: to be taken seriously, even though I was still kind 626 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: of the way that I am then, you know, the 627 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: way that I am now then a little bit, and 628 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: it's just hard because yeah, people think you're a groupie 629 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: or you'll really think that an older male comedian is 630 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: like trying to help you comedy wise, and then it 631 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: turns out not to be that, and you're like, oh, 632 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: I guess that's my bad because I'm stupid, you know, like, 633 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: but he's helping twenty one year old dudes, and it's 634 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: just like not the same for you. And what happens 635 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: a lot like when I first moved to New York, 636 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: I would go to like these clubs because they tell 637 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: you to like hang out so you can meet people. 638 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, I want to meet people, 639 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: and like this one guy literally came. I was staying 640 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: next to four guys, two of them aren't even comedians. 641 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: He's like, are you a comic? Are you a comic? 642 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Or are you a comic? And then it goes up 643 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: to me like hey, how you do it? And just 644 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: walks off like yeah to everybody if they're a comic 645 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: except for me, and I was one of the only 646 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: people that was a comic there. I was like, all right, man, 647 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: you know they and you know, but that's got it 648 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: has gotten better. But also I don't know if that's 649 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: just because I've made my world, you know you, I 650 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: think you sort of gravitate towards play that are not 651 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: going they're gonna treat you with dignity. 652 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you want. 653 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: What's so funny to me is people box out people 654 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: from they're like the mainstream ship, right, But then when. 655 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: You create your own ship they get mad at that too. 656 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I remember, maybe it's two years ago, 657 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: but I remember, you know, I'm friends or lives comedians 658 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: on Facebook. But there was like a festival that was 659 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: like for women or and like there were so many 660 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: fucking men who were upset. 661 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: But it's like the same kind of men. They're like, 662 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: women aren't funny. 663 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: Or we'll create a lineup and we'll put one woman 664 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: on the whole fucking comedy lineup and we'll be like, wow, 665 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: we did such a great job today. We had a 666 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: funny woman on that. Or they'll be like that one 667 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: woman that I like, she's funny, but the rest of 668 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: women are funny. So then when women go and be like, oh, 669 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: we'll create our own ship, it's like Theese pitches, you 670 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: didn't give any men any spots or so it's like 671 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: it's so crazy. And even when it's something like that time, 672 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: whatever the marginalized group is, we'll still make a space for. 673 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 8: This. 674 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I still do. 675 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: That's the thing, and that's what I try and say 676 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: to some of my guy friends. So I like, I'm like, 677 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: I do resent you a little bit because you can 678 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: navigate both spaces and. 679 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 7: I I can't do that. 680 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: So you're getting both because I'm bringing you into mind, 681 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: but they're also still allowing you and theirs, you know. 682 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: So like, but it's hard to because like when you 683 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: do form something else because you've been boxed out somewhere else, 684 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: just like you said, like you can get harassed out 685 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: of a space or just ignored. They ignore your potential, 686 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: and then you start something that's successful and they're really 687 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: resentful and it turns into this, oh you're the real sexist. 688 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 7: Oh you you know, never book men on your show. 689 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: But now I'm at the point where, like I don't 690 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: get the show that I run called Stevie. We've like 691 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: only booked like one straight guy, I think, like, and 692 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: it's just like we didn't even do that on purpose. 693 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Like it's just like great, you know, because you just 694 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: reach a point where it's like because they do do 695 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: this argument where they act like it's so hard to 696 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: find one funny woman or like to be on their 697 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: show where they're like this one people, they run this 698 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: show and they had a female producer and she was like, 699 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: you need to book more women. 700 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 7: They're like, give us a list. 701 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Of forty women that we can book, like, go, I 702 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: would love to see this list, and she gives it 703 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: to them and they're like, we're not cooking an these women, 704 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: like they like truly have just convinced themselves that like 705 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: it actually is that women are coddled and not funny 706 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: and only get spots because suddenly there's this push to 707 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: put women in comedy where they don't belong and like 708 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: that's truly how they view things. So then when we 709 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: make a space that's separate from that, then not only 710 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: did they get mad, but like this one guy, they 711 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: did this like roast battle. They took like five white 712 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: guys and people on Twitter were like, why are you 713 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: taking five white guys? And this guy gets on this 714 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: podcast and goes to discriminate against white men. Is the 715 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: epitome of racism. It's like, wait, I'm sorry, but that's 716 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: you're not being intentionally funny, because that's hilarious, like the 717 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: funniest the dude's ever been. 718 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: For century have been oppressed, and it is time for 719 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: us to finally ease off of these white men and 720 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: give them some opportunity. 721 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: I think I think it should be like required for 722 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: schools to go to the African American History Museum because 723 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: it really lays out so clearly the way have you 724 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: guys been where they lay like, it lays out so clearly. 725 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: They set it up where it's a timeline. And I 726 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: had read about like the creation of whiteness and like 727 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: things like that, but they're really like, no, it's like 728 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: we have a tracked down to within fifty years when 729 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: whiteness was created as a legal term so that you 730 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: could own people. Like it's like it does like people 731 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: act like it just is not really anything that was 732 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: a decisive decision by humans and it really was like, 733 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, just the race structure. And so then it's 734 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: like really crazier, like this dude who all in the 735 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: conversations with people who hate me that we were talking about, 736 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: this dude was like, you know, they have this idea 737 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: that history has nothing to do with anything in our present, 738 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: and yet they get into a car every day and 739 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: look at their iPhone and you know, like it's just insane, 740 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: like they and then they'll celebrate American history and it's like, so, 741 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: which is it, you know, like this history of absolutely 742 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with our president, Like you really think 743 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: that women couldn't have jobs up until fifty years ago? 744 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: And it just affects nothing like they were if they were. 745 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 2: Crazy, if they were really so in the present like that, 746 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: then they wouldn't be bringing up shit like the Second 747 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: Amendment every time a school gets shot up, right, Like 748 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: whenever a school gets shot up, is like our founding 749 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: fathers said, I could have a rocket launcher and fuck 750 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 2: this shit. But if you're like, well, also those same 751 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: founding fathers believe they can own black people, They're like, 752 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: why are you bringing up old shit? 753 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't understand on today, like exactly. 754 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: What they do well, And what Ray always says is 755 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: that what's frustrating is that they don't even care about 756 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: that hypocrisy. They only us logical ones that are sitting 757 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: here spinning, and then they use that to control. 758 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 7: The terms of debate. 759 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: So they like basically, you know, just prevail in this 760 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: chaos where even if you look at the gun thing, 761 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: what's happening now we are talking about should teachers be armed, 762 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: as opposed to should we completely ban semi automatic weapons? 763 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: And talk about further gun control as well. So they 764 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: want to limit the conversation. They know that if we 765 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: can spend a lot of the time talking about should 766 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: teachers have guns with almost nobody wants, then you're not 767 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: spending some of that time. You know, we might get 768 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: semi automatic weapons banned. I'm hopeful for that, knock on wood, 769 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: because any fucking person in their right mind thinks that 770 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: semi automatic wife that weapons of war should not be 771 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: sold in a civilized society. I hope that we can 772 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: and will make progress back on that, But we also 773 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: want to talk about further gun control. You can die 774 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: from regular guns too, you know, not as quickly, but 775 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: it's still very you know, And so they know that 776 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: if we can talk about should a teacher have a pistol, 777 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: that we're not talking about should anyone have a pistol? 778 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: Well, you know, also you have like like I've already 779 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: seen like some of the news about it, because I 780 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 2: actually watched some of the news this week and it's 781 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 2: always like one is false objectivity, right, we have to 782 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: bring on to somebody who's like everyone should have a gun, gun, 783 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: should have a gun to fucking arm the teachers and 784 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 2: then they can kill the school shooting. No wait, give 785 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: the kids vest and then they can like survive like 786 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: it's fucking dependables. 787 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 3: Three third act. No wait, no, give the school tea. 788 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: Give the school shooters teaching jobs, and then they'll shoot 789 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: because they're the best account. It's like it's like you 790 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: bring on that net job and then you have the 791 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: fucking the reasonable person who's like and like the other 792 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: person on the fucking like side of the screen is 793 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: like my. 794 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: Daughter was killed in one of these school shootings. 795 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: It's like like they act like that's normal, like that's news. 796 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: Like that's false, Like we shouldn't even. 797 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: The false equivalences drive me crazy. The false dichotomy is 798 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: because that's what the news does. And that's why when 799 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: I did the men are scum thing, all of the 800 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: press that got picked up for it is like this 801 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: comedian likes to call men scum. It's like, oh my god, 802 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: like you know, and so but they like that where 803 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: they always have let's have a feminist and a guy who. 804 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 7: Doesn't think women should exist. 805 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: Let's have you know, h immigrant family that's terrified of 806 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: losing their entire life, and some guy that we met 807 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: at Walmart who thinks that I should support them. And 808 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: these are not real equivalent because we've had an erasure 809 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: of the expert and intellectuals and people who actually are 810 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: experts in these fields. And then you have because you 811 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: democratize Twitter, that's great, you know, and then it's like 812 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: you have on the news. You shouldn't have either have 813 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: two experts and then separately, two people who are on 814 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: Twitter debating these things. Don't have a guy who's famous 815 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter talking to a guy who studied this for 816 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: twenty five years and acts like they're the same thing. 817 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: That's that's a lot of the problem that's happening too, 818 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: especially because the right wing is the people who for 819 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: the most part, do not have the true experts, and 820 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: they paint them as equal things. And it's like, no, 821 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: this guy actually knows this ship. Because there is a 822 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: difference between facts and alternative facts. That's what's scary about 823 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: Dylan's podcast lies. They have their own facts and they 824 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: will never believe ours, you know, And it's just fucking crazy. 825 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 5: I'll turn to fact my lies. I wish people were 826 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 5: quit making that bullshit. I'll turn to facts, fuck you 827 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 5: and goddamn lies. But no, nobody want to come out 828 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 5: and say lies because when you say lies, that mean 829 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 5: you're not telling the truth. And so when you're not 830 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 5: telling the truth, people are quicker to dismiss you and 831 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 5: dismiss your opinion. And also me and Roger was listening 832 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 5: to that, and I'm not gonna lie me personally. I 833 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 5: give you kudos because the whole time we were listening, 834 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 5: I was just getting mad and I'm like, for me personally, 835 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 5: I'm not going. 836 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 4: To debate my humanity right. 837 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 5: And I feel like, Uh, it's one of those things 838 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 5: where I'm like, oh, you're talking. 839 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 4: To someone who just listening to him. 840 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, you're an idiot, you know, because 841 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 5: he asked him questions. 842 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: He was like, no, I haven't talked any women in 843 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 4: my family. Was like, motherfucker has a god damn me too. 844 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: Well, he's thinking you're to a point too, because well, 845 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize until after the podcast where he says, 846 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: they're like, where did you find Marcia? Yeah, he found 847 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: me on this guy's podcast. First of all, he found 848 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: me on a segment called Idiots of the Week, and 849 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: then like I'm the biggot, you know. And then I 850 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: didn't even realize at the time, but the guy whose 851 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: podcast he was listening to, I don't even remember his name, 852 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: but if I did, I'm not going to promote him. 853 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: But he's like known for he said racial slurs, he's misogynists, 854 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: Like he is this outwardly bigoted guy. So it's like 855 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: you're listening to him call me a biggot and truly convinced, 856 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: Like there are all these guys who like it's this 857 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: faux like pearl clutching like I said, where they'll message me, oh, 858 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 1: I hate sexistma geinst both genders, you punt like you know. 859 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: It's like, oh yo, it's so wild. 860 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: It's so wild because like that dude. 861 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 2: The thing, the thing that was infuriating about that dude 862 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: is he's one of those people that trod you while 863 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: keeping a calm voice. Right, so he's saying like super 864 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: inflammatory shit, but then it's also said with like the 865 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: tone of like matter of fact, like like the same 866 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 2: way he'd be like I'm gonna move my grass today. 867 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 3: Is how he's also being like and to me, I just. 868 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: Feel because we're the emotional ones, we don't actually have 869 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: any facts. We're all pure emotion, and white men are 870 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: these amazing objective creatures of course the default. 871 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 3: But I love that you went on. I know it 872 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 3: was I know you don't want to. 873 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: Listen to it again, and I know it's like hard, 874 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: especially in the moment, but you are super open and honest, 875 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 2: which I think kind of. 876 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 3: Sort of dissolves whatever the fuck points he's trying to make, 877 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 3: because you can kind of tell how. 878 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: All feminists are these banshees with me while he's baiting them. 879 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: He's he's taking the time to go into feminist forums 880 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: to get feminists to yell at him and wear the 881 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: crazy ones like this is the disconnect there. It was 882 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: such a learning lesson though, because you get trolled. I 883 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: get trolled, like anybody who's out there like this is 884 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: getting trolled. And if you're black, personal color, woman, gay, 885 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: it's just increased because they have those attacks. 886 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 5: You know. 887 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: That's the thing too, that's so annoying. It's like, give 888 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: me a word to call a white man that holds 889 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: the actual like they they ban men are the worst 890 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: and men are scum because there is no true hate 891 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: speech against white men. Like I bet they remove cracker 892 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: and stuff too, Like it's like. 893 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 3: Colonizes. Now, I'm just gonna catch. 894 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: If you use that video being the only white guy 895 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 1: at a black office desert black panther. 896 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 7: That video is so funny. It's literally like this. 897 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: They have this kid and they're like in a pitch. 898 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 6: Meeting and he's like they're like, okay, guys, black kiss 899 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 6: and he's like, I think we should. 900 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: They're like, okay, somebody, it's a good idea. You know, 901 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: let's do that. 902 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 2: When I go play when I go play basketball, you know, 903 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: it's like a good little collection of people. 904 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: It's black, white dudes, all these kind of shit. 905 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 8: Right. 906 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: But you know, lately every time I come in, like 907 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm greeting people in the African American twenty eighteen realty, 908 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: which is, of course, have you seen black pants yet? 909 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 2: And then they say, you know, most of them say yes. 910 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: If you say no, then we like accused you of 911 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 2: being a coon and shit, but in a humorous way, 912 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 2: not like. 913 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 6: Don't you you don't even have to pay anything, right. 914 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 3: Like straight up, I will buy you a ticket, dog, 915 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 3: Like if you tell me what you're going to You 916 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 3: was like, I can't afford it. 917 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 4: I got you done. 918 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 3: We will figure this out right fucking now. 919 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 2: But but nah, then we do we do the DAP, 920 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, kind of forever. But like you know, sometimes 921 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: there's white people there. And so my friend Chase was like, 922 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 2: like he knows everybody's stopping talking about Black Panther. 923 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 3: Everybody loves it. 924 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: So Chase goes, yeah, man, I saw Black Panthers suck, 925 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: and you know, obviously joking, and so all the black 926 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 2: dudes we all started barking at him like that, right, 927 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: and he hadn't even seen the movie, so like he 928 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 2: was just looking like, what the fuck is happening right now? 929 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 2: But I was like, I was like, that's what we 930 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: should do. Like we we have now had some duels 931 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 2: to fight back. We can call them colonizers. We can 932 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 2: bark at them you cannot Yeah, like we can hit 933 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: that dude with a you cannot talk, you know, like 934 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: just right with an African accent, you know, like I 935 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: love it. 936 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 3: So that's what we're its. 937 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: Way into Black Lives Matter protests on the streets, because 938 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: like you know, there's always like there's always like a 939 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: reframing of like songs and like stuff during the protests, 940 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: So like, I bet that will be Black Panther stuff. 941 00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: That would be so cool. 942 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 7: That's so funny. 943 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: Oka's gonna be walking down the street marking at the top. 944 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: My favorite part that is even before the mark and 945 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 2: when he just he he looks at Tod like what 946 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 2: the fuck is like this is a look on his face, 947 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: like why why is this lamp in my house talking? 948 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 3: You know, I. 949 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 7: Forget who was saying. I think it was shoot, was 950 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 7: it rock stand Gay? 951 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: It was somebody on Twitter saying how in Black Panther? 952 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: Like one of these subtle, not so subtle things like 953 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: if you're aware of it watching movies, like you know, 954 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 1: once I studied it in college, it's like really every 955 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: movie you see, And then of course you realize that 956 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 1: this is what every black person has grown up knowing, 957 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: is that when you look at movies and you're like, 958 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, in every single fucking movie, it literally 959 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: is always like one or two other you know. 960 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 7: And then what I was talking about the other day 961 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 7: is that if you. 962 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: Look at not only how well these movies have done 963 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: in this past year, and how well movies that represent 964 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: people do TV shows that represent people, you know, like 965 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: all of the shows like Scandal, things like that, they 966 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: do well financially, so for so you know, bullshit aside. 967 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: For years, Hollywood types made this market argument against representation, 968 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 1: and that market argument was always made up right, because. 969 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 7: There was always money to be had. 970 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: It's the same way that they don't market makeup to 971 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: black women. There's a huge market there, you know, there's 972 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: a humongous and black women who have gotten into the 973 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: makeup industry have proven that how much of a market 974 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: there is for that, But mainstream beauty actually ignores that 975 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: at their own financial perils. So it's like you are 976 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: actually protecting white supremacy and white centralism over your own 977 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: financial interests. So people, actually it's actually double fucked up, 978 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you're not just doing 979 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 1: it for a selfish capitalist reason. You're actually going against 980 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: your own capitalistic interests in the capitalistic company. 981 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 3: It's amazing, doesn't make sense. A lot of times. 982 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: People will do the work of white supremacy backwards, like 983 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: whether you're black or white or whatever, it's just we 984 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: start from the okay, assume white supremacy is right, and 985 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 2: then we'll do this math, and it's always like like 986 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: whatever conveniently fits, where it's like, well it probably doesn't 987 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: make money or else. Listen, guys, Netflix would have done it. 988 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: They would have given him that. 989 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 3: And you're like, I don't know. Netflix loses money on 990 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: a lot of shit. 991 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: They take risks, they just don't take a lot of 992 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 2: risk on black shit, Like, uh. 993 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 6: Well, well why would the black people in their companies too. 994 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 6: That's the thing is that if you have a representation 995 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 6: within your company, then the product that happens is going 996 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 6: to normally also be more representative as well, because you 997 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 6: have those voices. But Hollywood has protected its white interest 998 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 6: on the inside more than it's even done so on 999 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 6: the outside, which is what's really scary. 1000 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then who is it? Ira Madison was posting 1001 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,160 Speaker 1: about this one time where it's like because I hear 1002 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: this in comedy all the time, especially in like private 1003 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: white spaces, where it's like people will still say these 1004 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: things like why didn't get the job? You know, they're 1005 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: looking for a person of color. And it's like, okay, 1006 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: but if that's true, how come three percent of writing 1007 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: rooms are people of color If they're always looking for 1008 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: people of color? You know, it's just not true. They're 1009 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 1: telling you that because they don't want to just say 1010 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: you didn't earn this job. 1011 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: And that's if they're telling you that, you know what 1012 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: I mean, because like look at like like Sony says 1013 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 2: black black people don't tell well overseas. Then at the 1014 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: same time they made they put the Equalizer out and 1015 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 2: Gzel made all that fucking money and made the movie profitable, 1016 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 2: and it's really just an old ass Donzel go around 1017 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 2: fucking people up. 1018 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 3: There's not even another star in the movie. And then 1019 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 3: you have it like. 1020 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 2: Fenty Beauty comes along and Rihanna's like, well, I'll serve 1021 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 2: these black women and women of color makes all this 1022 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: fucking money. 1023 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I'm seeing ad for Hey, they 1024 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 3: believe dark women. Like it's like it's like. 1025 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: They have to create the competition, but the burden's completely 1026 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: on the people who are being ignored, who don't have 1027 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: the resources sometimes or it takes a long time to 1028 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: get the resources. So that's why we're in twenty eighteen 1029 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: and this is just happening. I mean, that's really crazy 1030 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: if you think about it, that this movement of like 1031 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: really pushing black entertainment, Black makeup. It's been there, but 1032 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: this real sort of mainstream push is so recent. 1033 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, like it's crazy. 1034 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 2: And it's wow because with makeup and shit too, it's 1035 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: already disrespected because it's a it's an industry for women female, 1036 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 2: so you already have that, but then it's like a 1037 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 2: billion dollar industry. 1038 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 3: It's not just like it's nothing to scoff at. 1039 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 4: No, it's not. 1040 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: And you still have people that. 1041 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: Were looking at it and going, yeah, but we should 1042 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 2: probably just make like one shade for all black women. 1043 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: And that's so crazy. 1044 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 5: And like even the terms, as I've got older, nude, 1045 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 5: when people say nude, nude is white women, nude is 1046 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 5: no unloke skin tone of nude. 1047 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so when you. 1048 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 5: Try to find nude makeup, when you try to find 1049 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 5: particularly those that do dance in ballerina, when you try 1050 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 5: to find nude tight, they always look on the fucking 1051 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 5: ashy And there's the reason why, because it's not designed 1052 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 5: for you. And then you have to go, hey, I'm 1053 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 5: gonna make suit to match our skin tone. You know 1054 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 5: that we're not out here dancing looking crazy. 1055 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 7: All right, Yeah, do. 1056 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,399 Speaker 1: You know what I just found out? Okay, well, I'll 1057 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: get back to you on the for the conversation that 1058 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: people hate me, What I was gonna say is that 1059 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: it taught me a lot about trolling because we all 1060 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: struggle with sort of how to react. They really do 1061 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: bait me sometimes even though I really try not to. 1062 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 7: And what I realized talking to. 1063 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: Him is that the goal of trolling one hundred percent 1064 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: of the time is to get a reaction. 1065 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 7: Correct always what they want. 1066 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: It's negative, positive, They don't care. All they want is 1067 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 1: to be able to screenshot things to their equally sad friends. 1068 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 1: That's literally what they live for. And so I just 1069 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: realized I was like all these people that I've just 1070 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: been wasting emotional energy on, like all they want is attention, 1071 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: and it's really sad. 1072 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 7: It's like because it is, It's true. 1073 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: It's like they feel like this attack on their privilege 1074 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: is like bigotry. So part of it is like them 1075 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: like you know, feeling bad for themselves and like this 1076 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,840 Speaker 1: is what they do since the world has left them behind, 1077 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 1: you know whatever. And but it did I did realize, 1078 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: and it was also nice as awful as he was, 1079 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: it did make me realize that as much as I 1080 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: hate these people like they are people, and I don't 1081 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 1: humanize them in the sense, but it's just sort of 1082 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: like I forget when I'm typing at somebody too that 1083 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: this is just a really sad person. Maybe an evil 1084 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: sad person, but just a really sad person, and I 1085 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: forget he's. 1086 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 7: More than just this troll. 1087 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: He lives the whole human life that's probably really fucking sad, 1088 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: you know. And it kind of gave me this weird 1089 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: piece which roles. I was like, what are things? 1090 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 2: What are things doing? The show and social media has 1091 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 2: kind of taught me it's like being the focal point 1092 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: of someone else's like shit is not something I can control, 1093 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So like there's a it's 1094 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 2: like I put out into the world what I put 1095 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: out into the world. I try to be positive, try 1096 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 2: to be nice and all that ship, but at some 1097 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 2: point they're gonna be people that become obsessed. They're gonna 1098 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: be people that are just playing out bad people. 1099 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 1: The other day. Yeah, people do that ship Like it's 1100 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: really weird. It's like, why are you so obsessed? It's 1101 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: very right, it's just so strange. 1102 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 2: So at some point I just kind of accepted and 1103 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm just like Okay, this is another this is happening, 1104 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 2: this is another thing. And like what I'll do is 1105 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 2: like I'll block the person or something, and they always 1106 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 2: have multiple accounts. 1107 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 4: Because they're doing weird correct. 1108 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 2: But one of the things that's funny is like even 1109 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 2: getting blocked to them is some level of like I 1110 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 2: got a respondment. Like they'll take a screenshot and be 1111 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 2: like I called him a piece of shit and he 1112 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: blocked me, And I'm like, okay, that's kind you like. 1113 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: Sitting there crying, and that's what they can tell their friends. 1114 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I really hurt him, and you know, 1115 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: our side does it too, Like I really don't like 1116 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: this people like retweeting Tommy Laren and all this stuff. 1117 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like Dana Loch, like she got in. All she 1118 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: wants is fame at any expense, fame and success. This 1119 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: is not a coincidence that these people are willing to 1120 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: insult dead children. I mean that is you have made 1121 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: a decision. You have sold your soul to the devil. 1122 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: There's not something you're gonna say where all of a 1123 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: sudden and culture realizes that she shouldn't be a piece 1124 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: of shit, So don't quote tweet her like, you know 1125 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, Screenshot it if you want to make 1126 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: fun of her, you know what I mean. But these 1127 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: views directly give them numbers that allow them, publishers that 1128 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: allow them airtime on the news. This is what they 1129 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: present to places like CNN, where they say, let me 1130 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: be the other side. Look, this has one hundred thousand interactions, 1131 00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: it's only been two minutes. Whatever, you know, create these 1132 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: hate celebrities on our own side. Almost. 1133 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point, except that that's more work 1134 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 3: for me. So I just retweeted and talk shit about them. 1135 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 3: But normally I just block. 1136 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 2: I have all these people blocked, which is so weird 1137 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 2: because like I have like Tommy Lauren block and Trump 1138 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: is blocked and shit. But then I'll see like my 1139 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,360 Speaker 2: timeline light up with just people like It'll cause like 1140 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: my timeline will show like them quote tweeting something I 1141 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 2: can't read and then their response like oh fuck you 1142 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 2: or whatever, and it just be over. 1143 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 5: No. 1144 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 2: So, like they definitely do get off on the wave 1145 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 2: of like responses. 1146 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 3: But there's also this part that. 1147 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 2: I debate about where I'm like, we're human, and we 1148 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 2: have to allow ourselves to be human because the natural 1149 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 2: response that most of us have is to be like oh, 1150 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 2: what the fuck like and that in social media spaces 1151 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 2: it kind of takes on that like. 1152 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: I got when I do have those reactions, Yeah, I 1153 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: feel kind of stupid when I get into it. And 1154 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: then I'm like, you know what, I'm human and they 1155 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: got me. 1156 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, like like I think none of us, yeah, none 1157 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 2: of us wants to be, but like it shouldn't. It 1158 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 2: shouldn't be a mark on me that I saw an 1159 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: article that was fucked up and went, oh my god, 1160 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 2: this is fucked up. 1161 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 3: It shouldn't make it shouldn't be like. 1162 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh my now I'm part of the problem. Like actually, 1163 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm not far the problem. I disagree with that. And 1164 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 2: sometimes when I see something, I want people to know 1165 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 2: why it's fucked up, so I'll be like, hey, look 1166 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 2: at this. 1167 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a nuanced there where it's like because then 1168 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 1: you can't just let people say you know, think about 1169 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: how long people just got to say racist and sexist 1170 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 1: things without being called out. So you have to sort 1171 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: of mobilize in this way too, where if someone posts 1172 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: a fucked up article on the New York Times, yeah, 1173 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about it. 1174 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 3: And I'm there's and none of us are. 1175 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to be so superhuman that I fucking 1176 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 2: don't have access to my emotions anymore. There's a level 1177 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 2: where I have to be able to like punch back 1178 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 2: a little bit, you know. Now. The way I do 1179 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 2: it typically is if somebody's trolling me, I will make 1180 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 2: jokes about them or something, and then I'll. 1181 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: So funny, Well that funny too, Like I love making 1182 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: jokes about Yes, Like some of the things people say 1183 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm blown away by. Like during this, one guy said 1184 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: about the crisis actors for the Florida the Florida kids, 1185 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, about how they think these kids are fucking actors. 1186 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: This guy literally thinks that, like they trained with George Soros. 1187 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: So I started quote reading him, making this like I 1188 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: went to George sos Academy for the Performing ausome you're 1189 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: reading for the Terified Teenager two hundred and forty nine. 1190 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 1: Kiss today you could. 1191 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 5: Come out and somebody asked a question, was like, have 1192 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 5: you seen high school plays? 1193 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 4: These are not actors, right, I just. 1194 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 2: Want to know exactly how did they get I don't 1195 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: understand the whole crisis active thing, and I'm sure that 1196 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 2: it's much deeper. Uh, the conspiracy than I know, like 1197 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure they must have some excuses for all the. 1198 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,720 Speaker 3: Shit, but like there's literally like a dude in Cussy 1199 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 3: to kill people. 1200 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 2: There's like seventeen dead children they're fucking like and shit 1201 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: are their family? 1202 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: President Trump retweeted at Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist the other 1203 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: day in like a new low, In like a new Low. 1204 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, well, he already was friends with Alex Jones, 1205 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: who is the Sandy Hook, and he's the one I 1206 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: started it almost, Like, I mean, that's that's one of 1207 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: the most disgusting things I can think of, Like how 1208 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: did you know a guy from Newtown? 1209 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 7: I mean that's right. 1210 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: That's so fucked up, Like how deep could that rabbit 1211 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 2: hole go to explain all that shit? 1212 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 3: Because like I don't want. 1213 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 2: It's like I don't want to know, but I kind 1214 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 2: of want to, like if Vox would write like a 1215 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 2: nice explainer on it or something, because I don't understand 1216 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 2: how the fuck they there's seventeen people who aren't here anymore. 1217 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 2: Were they always made up for seventeen? Like all these 1218 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: high schoolers were just made up for sixteen years. It 1219 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: just doesn't make the. 1220 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: Family right, No, I mean and some of these people 1221 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 1: all look at their things on Facebook because you know, 1222 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: they'll comment, and sometimes it's like a sickness. I'll like 1223 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: look at their page and just like who is this 1224 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: evil person? 1225 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 3: Right? 1226 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 7: And it's always just like some white. 1227 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 1: Lady with her dogs and her family who's posting conspiracy 1228 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: theorists about these children. And it's like, what is your wife? 1229 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: Like that's so fucking crazy. I blocked this fucking like 1230 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: my cousin married this guy who's just a nightmare and 1231 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: he comments on everyone of like my parents when they 1232 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: post about me, and it is this thing too where like, 1233 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, just for my own good, I'm like, I 1234 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: can't get into these crazies because he has his own 1235 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories. And I'm not going to debate you like 1236 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: we're two sides of the debate. We are not, Yeah, 1237 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, my dad grew 1238 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: up with this sort of old school like white liberal 1239 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: thinking of like always hear out a conservative and blah 1240 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: blah blah. And that really was for these sort of 1241 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: like private white male spaces where of course your interests 1242 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: are more aligned, you know, you can work it out 1243 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: more across the aisle because conservatives and liberals were not 1244 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: that different. But we're at a new thing now, you know, 1245 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: so it's getting harder to really I think we have 1246 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: to fight more because they're not they're not compromising with us. 1247 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: So why are Democrats still doing this whole? Well, maybe 1248 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: we can convince them, you know. It just feels like 1249 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: we have to get I wonder if that will be 1250 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen change, with all the young people coming in, 1251 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: more diverse people, more representation all around, that they will 1252 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: be younger politicians who understand, fuck it, we're not compromising, 1253 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: we're beating them. 1254 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lib I think there's a record number 1255 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 2: of women running for like the local kind of offices 1256 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 2: coming up. 1257 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 7: This Emily list is incredible. 1258 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1259 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm thinking I'm hoping hopeful that those women 1260 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 2: win a lot of these seats and that'll be kind 1261 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: of the ground change. 1262 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: The numbers are unprecedented, and these small. I mean Oklahoma 1263 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: had like three or four seats turned blue like that 1264 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: is crazy, because the thing is though, if Liberals show 1265 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: up to an election, we would win every single election. 1266 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: The numbers are just we just have more numbers. Period. 1267 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: It has always been about Albanizing the liberal vote. So 1268 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: it's like, if liberals showed up, we would literally sweep 1269 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: every single election in the country. That's just true. Besides 1270 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: things that have been so jerrymandered that that's not possible, right, 1271 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: you know. But the thing is about getting people to 1272 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: show up. I think liberals are motivated this election like 1273 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: we haven't seen in a long time. 1274 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 3: Me too. 1275 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 2: Even with the jerrymandering. The one thing they can't account 1276 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 2: for is everybody showing up to vote. Like even with 1277 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 2: that North Carolina like it's rick yeah, Like you still 1278 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: ended up getting uh, what's the dude used to be 1279 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 2: the governor, Karen that piece of ship he was a 1280 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,439 Speaker 2: mayor here, we still end up getting a Corey out 1281 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: like so even like even right, all right, So listen, guys, 1282 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 2: what you need to do is hit up a massandry 1283 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 2: with Marsha Ray on iTunes, the stitcher and all that 1284 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 2: stuff and check out her show. And you can also 1285 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 2: go to marshallbski dot com and go to her website. 1286 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 3: And you're also. 1287 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,439 Speaker 2: Doing live Handsmaid Handmaids Tell the musical March the Eighth. 1288 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Where are you doing, Yes, that is at the Bell 1289 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: House in I think it's Park slope is the area 1290 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be really fun. We wrote a parody musical 1291 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,919 Speaker 1: about Handmaid's Tale because we watched it. We're like, yeah, 1292 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: this is fun, but like, let's make it more campy, 1293 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, let's make it more musical. And so yeah, 1294 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: that's been really cool. 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I went and bought some 1327 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 2: of our own stuff because I was just like the 1328 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 2: selle was too. 1329 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 4: Good, just sale was too good, y'all. 1330 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,360 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I'm gonna get me the mug. 1331 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1332 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 4: We were going to continue to update and put new 1333 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 4: stuff out there. 1334 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's get into some news. Okay, guys, 1335 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot of news going on here. 1336 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 3: What is happening? Oh uh? Apparently Bernie Sanders. 1337 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 2: Has promoted a false story about reporting Russian trolls to 1338 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 2: the Hillary Clinton campaign. 1339 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 3: So Russia, did you read that? 1340 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1341 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Russia definitely did not want Hillary to win. 1342 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 3: Correct. 1343 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 2: But it didn't just start with like Trump like. They 1344 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 2: also promoted like Jill Stein. They also promoted Bernie. They 1345 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 2: also promoted just not voting at all. Right, Trump and 1346 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 2: Hillary are two sides of the saying coin that type 1347 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,320 Speaker 2: of shit. And you know, I don't think we'll find 1348 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people who will admit that they failed 1349 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 2: for that quote unquote. 1350 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 3: It must have had some effective. 1351 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Galvanized people into the street. I mean, they've gotten people 1352 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: to show up to protest, this is the thing. Unfortunately, 1353 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: it really did show how manipulable both sides are to 1354 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: this sort of divisiveness, like you know, getting riled up, 1355 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, that shit was crazy though, because Bernie said 1356 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 1: basically he said, my campaign sent Hillary the warning as 1357 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: soon as we got it, and then the guy who 1358 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: actually did get that information and send it to Hillary 1359 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 1: came out to the press and said I did not 1360 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 1: work for Bernie Sanders campaign. So like it did happen, 1361 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: but Bernie took credit for it, and the guy who 1362 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,919 Speaker 1: actually did warn Hillary's campaign because he found out through 1363 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Bernie's people. Was like, I did not work for your campaign. 1364 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 2: And he said that he could have called me if 1365 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 2: you wanted to. He may maybe he doesn't have my 1366 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 2: phone number. You also said, I'm gonna send him a 1367 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 2: bill for my back pay. Says Bernie's taking out a 1368 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 2: credit since I did this ship myself. 1369 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I charged one hundred dollars an hour. 1370 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 2: Sod you're taking credit. Yeah yeah, it's like, since you're 1371 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 2: taking credit for my work. Uh, there's a batter of 1372 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 2: my pay my salary. 1373 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Come on, did you accept PayPal then? 1374 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1375 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean the thing is with Bernie. I think there's 1376 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: real Russians. The Russians, besides just wanting Hillary to not 1377 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 1: get elected, also primarily want chaos. They want what's happening now, 1378 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: and they wanted chaos. And the primaries, this was a 1379 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 1: really divisive primary. I do think that was in part 1380 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: because of outside influences. Like there was a lot I 1381 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: saw the in person debates. It was contentious. I don't 1382 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: like Ray was saying, I don't think they created new people. 1383 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 1: I think they galvanized people who already existed, you know, 1384 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,680 Speaker 1: and they did it really well and they because Russia 1385 01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: does this across the world. This is the thing, like, 1386 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: if Trump weren't so ignorant protecting their interests, a real 1387 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: president would be explaining to the American people what they're 1388 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 1: known for, what they did. This is a real calculated 1389 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 1: thing that our intelligence agency knows exactly how they work 1390 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: because they've done it everywhere. They've done in all the 1391 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: small nations in the USSR, like they try and disrupt 1392 01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: their elections like this. 1393 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 2: The part, the part that weirds me out is that 1394 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,959 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who will say, well, yeah, 1395 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 2: those Trump voters, they got played. 1396 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 3: They're so stupid. 1397 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 2: But if I'm go, well, there's also a wing of 1398 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 2: people that are very liberal that got taken in too 1399 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 2: because Russia didn't give a fuck. They were trying to 1400 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 2: get as many people off topic as as possible. 1401 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 3: Then it's like no, no, no, no, no. 1402 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 2: Those feelings were genuine and original and had nothing to 1403 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 2: do with it. 1404 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,440 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, the Trump people feel that way too. 1405 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 2: That's why when they do these interviews now at their year, 1406 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 2: all those people are like, yeah, what's what I love Trump? 1407 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I want to do that I still. 1408 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 1: See that one woman they found on the news, so 1409 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 1: they're like, your group was controlled by Russians and she's like, 1410 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: that ain't true. Get the hell every sing was a 1411 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Trump supporter. It's like OK. 1412 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 3: And then with the Sanders like uh. 1413 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 2: They asked his campaign spokesperson Arianna Jones, why would Sanders 1414 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 2: repeater story that he did that he knew, he didn't 1415 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 2: know it's true and it turned out not to be. 1416 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 3: And she said that he's not a great. 1417 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 2: Fan of reporters who try to provoke controversy where none exists. 1418 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 2: She reiterated the point that the senator has made throughout 1419 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 2: the week that about how he campaigned hard for Clinton, 1420 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 2: and then Jones further defended sanders assertions by noting that 1421 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 2: MaTx is an MSNBC in an MSNBC interview on Thursday, 1422 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 2: said again that he'd been in touch with the Clinton campaign. 1423 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,840 Speaker 2: That claim, like his earlier one, was mistaken as because 1424 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 2: he reached out to I think it was a pack. 1425 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 3: It wasn't even that campaign directly. 1426 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 2: Ask why the senator relayed Matt's story without checking it. 1427 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Jones response, it sounds as if you're suggestion that we 1428 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,920 Speaker 2: should no longer trust a reporting of outlets like NBC 1429 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 2: and that the information they provide requires independent verification. She 1430 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 2: said that Sanders had referred to Max as being on 1431 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 2: his campaign because Bernard consenters are tens of thousands of 1432 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 2: people volunteered during twenty sixteen as part of his campaign, 1433 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 2: and then she eventually acknowledged that Sanders maybe misspoke and 1434 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 2: calling Matt's a member of his staff or and there's 1435 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: more than a thousand staff members over the course of 1436 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 2: the campaign. 1437 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: So Bernie is an interesting I mean, I talked to 1438 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: my mom about him because my parents are like Democrats 1439 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: in Ohio. My dad used to be the dean of 1440 01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: a law school, so he like knows a couple of 1441 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: these politician types. And like, Bernie's got a real anger problem, 1442 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think it can be ignored, you know, 1443 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 1: because he's very, very there's this thing where it's like, oh, 1444 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Bernie's the champion for women and stuff like that, but 1445 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 1: you're completely ignoring this sort of instinct that a lot 1446 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: of women had, that there's a toxic element, that there's 1447 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: a brattiness to him, that there's this sort of like 1448 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 1: I liked his ideas. I actually voted for Bernie in 1449 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: the primary, and it was hard for me to make 1450 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 1: that decision, and I ultimately think it's just because I 1451 01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: wanted to push the agenda more radically left. I assume 1452 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 1: that Hillary would win, and you know, wanted to push 1453 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 1: the agenda left, which is what it did successfully do 1454 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: in a way on certain issues. But Bernie is problematic 1455 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways because he's got this anger. 1456 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: He has a resentment towards media that he almost shares 1457 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 1: with Trump. Like when people say that Bernie and Trump 1458 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: are similar, it's a lot of the times not fair, 1459 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 1: but in certain issues, in terms of their radicalism, there's 1460 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: a reason why they're seen as similar. There's a reason 1461 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: why people like this sort of eccentric man in a 1462 01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 1: way that they're never going to accept a woman, you know, 1463 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: and like, So it's hard for me with him. His 1464 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: pro gun stuff bothers me. He does not have a 1465 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: good record. 1466 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:32,600 Speaker 8: You know. 1467 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 1: He claims it's because of hunting and Vermont is rural, 1468 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: and I hear that argument, But to me, it's just 1469 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that if you're a Democrat, you should you 1470 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: should be anti gun. 1471 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 2: He was running places, you know, he was running for 1472 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 2: president though you know what I mean, Like, you're not 1473 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:51,799 Speaker 2: running for president of Vermond. 1474 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 3: You're running for president of the United States, So like 1475 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 3: what like these these weapons are doing. 1476 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: Also, the people who do. 1477 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 7: The Bernie should have one thing. It's like, I'm Jewish. 1478 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 1: I do not think that they would have elected a 1479 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Jewish president. I'm sorry people act like that. 1480 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 7: That is not a thing we've very I mean, JFK. 1481 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: It was. It was very controversial that he was Catholic. 1482 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 1: Every president still has to claim allegiance to Christ. There 1483 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: has not been a single president, even Donald Trump, with 1484 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 1: this bullshit like there they have to be like, Christianity 1485 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 1: is still very important, especially being not like genetically Christian, 1486 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: does that make sense? Like being like born and culturally 1487 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Christian well been a factor. 1488 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 2: There's also the thing too, all the polls that people 1489 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 2: used to be like Bernie would have won are the 1490 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,680 Speaker 2: same polls that had Hillary winning. All that shit, Like 1491 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 2: it's it's like this weird logical fallacy where it's like 1492 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 2: he would have won. I'm like, but you're using the 1493 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 2: same post and says she would have won. How's it different, 1494 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 2: Like it's the same ship and it's not like if Bernie. 1495 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 2: If Bernie ran, Trump would have been like, well, now 1496 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm out of insults. I had a lot, I had 1497 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 2: all this shit prepared to talk about a woman, but 1498 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,160 Speaker 2: now it's Bernie. 1499 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 3: I'm just I guess I just gotta let him win 1500 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 3: the debate. 1501 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 1: Like I think he wouldn't have played up the red 1502 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 1: scare and said he wouldn't have subtly done stuff about 1503 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 1: the Jewish thing. I mean, people have clicked because his 1504 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: son in law is Jewish, that that within Judaism there 1505 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,559 Speaker 1: is like you know, I don't know, it's like even 1506 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 1: in New York. That's like there are these certain Jews 1507 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh God, Like anyway, I was gonna say, 1508 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,679 Speaker 1: so it really fucked up, but I was about to make. 1509 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 7: A very weird like Holocaust joke. I'm like, it's too early, 1510 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 7: but good before anyway, Yeah, it was. 1511 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:36,760 Speaker 3: It was wild though. 1512 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 2: It was like even with all that right because I 1513 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 2: do think he can't help certain privileges he has right 1514 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,680 Speaker 2: and as a man, you do get to be the 1515 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,400 Speaker 2: anger candidate. 1516 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 3: If that would have. 1517 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 2: Been like people always say Hillary is a robot, but 1518 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: she's kind of has to be because a woman. The 1519 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,560 Speaker 2: woman was up there truly expressing some fire and brimstone 1520 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 2: anger shit. We'd be like, what a bitch, I'm not 1521 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 2: voting for her. She's unstable. We can't give her the thing. 1522 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 2: Trump's entire campaign was just anger. 1523 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 3: That was it. 1524 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 2: Like he didn't have like there was like he was 1525 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 2: just anger, derision, mockery, you know all this shit, right, 1526 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Bernie does benefit from being able 1527 01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 2: to be the angry guy. He does benefit from, to me, 1528 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 2: some of the reason that people went from Bernie to 1529 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 2: Trump and shit like that. He gets to run as 1530 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 2: the outsider on the Democratic ticket, even though as soon 1531 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 2: as the race is over he's back to not being 1532 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:26,280 Speaker 2: a Democrat. 1533 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 3: Right, he gets to do stuff. 1534 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Like one excitement, no matter how dumb it is too, Like, 1535 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, they want anything that's a spectacle that way. 1536 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: That was in part some of Obama's successes that he 1537 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: could galvanize this sort of celebrity excitement. And unfortunately, I 1538 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: think that's what a president needs to be elected now 1539 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 1: and the other part for us to win again, we 1540 01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: got to find someone. 1541 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 3: Well what's wild is that one. 1542 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Hillary probably should have gotten that kind of excitement for 1543 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people, but she's been around so long 1544 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,160 Speaker 2: and attacked for so long that it's also twenty years 1545 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,799 Speaker 2: of people calling her ain't shit since she was first lady, 1546 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 2: so like, the excitement is definitely like muted. But Bernie's 1547 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 2: an old ass motherfucker too, so like it ain't like 1548 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 2: it ain't like he was some fresh, new exciting face. 1549 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 3: He was just the alternative to Hillary and people. 1550 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 2: And like I said, the last thing I'll say about 1551 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 2: him is policy wise, his delivery is similar to Trump, 1552 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 2: where he does get to say certain things and not 1553 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,720 Speaker 2: have to explain it as hard as like Hillary, who 1554 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,120 Speaker 2: is like a policy wonk and a person that does 1555 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 2: sit down and go like, hold up, what you guys 1556 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,839 Speaker 2: want is out here, here's what we're capable of getting, 1557 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,360 Speaker 2: and here's how you get it, and we can push 1558 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,679 Speaker 2: towards that other thing you want. So you want single 1559 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 2: pair of health care, let me tell you how we 1560 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 2: change Obamacare into single pair. 1561 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,600 Speaker 3: But Bernie can just come out and be like, we 1562 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 3: didn't get single. 1563 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,360 Speaker 2: Pair and y'all most fuckers know, y'all want it and 1564 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 2: that's it and people are like mm hmm and. 1565 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 7: Free college and Bernie yeah. 1566 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Like, one thing that my problem with Bernie that I 1567 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: realized after the primary reading more about him, is that 1568 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: he thinks that all social problems can be solved when 1569 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,440 Speaker 1: you solve class, right, And any person in the martialized 1570 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 1: group knows that that's not true, because you can be 1571 01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: the richest black person in the world and you're still 1572 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 1: going to face racism. So Bernie has this idea that 1573 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: if we just somehow actually make equal class, that racism 1574 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: and sexism and all this will just go away. And 1575 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 1: that's ignorant because he's not true. 1576 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 3: He thinks. 1577 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 2: He thinks that my economic politics are as identity politics, 1578 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 2: but white people's is just regular politics, and that's fucked 1579 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 2: up because he'll be like, well, look this, why are 1580 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,960 Speaker 2: we getting into identity politics by bringing up stuff like abortion? 1581 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 2: Abortion is financial, Having a child is a financial situation, 1582 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 2: you know. Healthcare is a financial situation for a woman. 1583 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,639 Speaker 2: Birth controls a financial situation for a woman. It's not 1584 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:55,600 Speaker 2: just some shit that I. 1585 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't trust a man not to betray me in 1586 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 1: the private room. That's why I said, even like Joe Biden, 1587 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 1: because it's like, I don't trust a male politician as 1588 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,720 Speaker 1: soon as he gets alone to be like, well, to 1589 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: get this other thing, I guess I don't mind selling 1590 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 1: women out, you know, because they're always gonna do that. 1591 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: That's why I want a woman. 1592 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 3: And it was so weird. 1593 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 7: I feel like, yeah, it's so. 1594 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,680 Speaker 2: Weird to see Hillary's like to see the purity politics 1595 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 2: pushed on Hillary. But then like Bernie was literally promoting 1596 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 2: people that were like, I'm anti choice, but I'm with 1597 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,719 Speaker 2: your economic policies, and people were like, well, that's fine. 1598 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 2: You have to understand you have to give up some things. 1599 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, the things you're giving up always look like me. 1600 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 2: They always look like like Karen and Marsha. It always 1601 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 2: looks like LGBTQ people. It always looks like someone is 1602 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 2: not a white person having to give up some shit. 1603 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 2: Like it's so it's so weird that politics. 1604 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Real America, real America is the working white man and 1605 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: not you know, the other people who actually built this country. 1606 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean it's interesting. 1607 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, Bernie is a tough topic because it's like 1608 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,640 Speaker 1: people get so riled up on both sides, and like, 1609 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, I've had some friends be really angry. But 1610 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 1: what I don't like is that why I don't understand 1611 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: why you can't be a fan of Bernie and then 1612 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: he can't also be criticized because I'm a fan of Hillary. 1613 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: But when she's criticized, I think a lot of that 1614 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 1: is fair. You know, some of it's not, but a 1615 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of it is like, yes, she has been an 1616 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: institutional centrist politician. There are things you can critique in that, and. 1617 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 4: You want to know, so wow. 1618 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 2: She has to address those criticisms because where they're treated 1619 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 2: as fair. So like unlike Bernie, sometimes he can just 1620 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,600 Speaker 2: be like, fuck you, I'm not talking about that. She 1621 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 2: has to be like, well, no, this is what happened 1622 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 2: with that, or I apologize for that, I was wrong 1623 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 2: for that. That's called accountability. But the one dude just 1624 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,680 Speaker 2: gets to be angry in the room and be like 1625 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 2: fuck that shit. But that's only enabled by his supporters. 1626 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 2: If his supporters weren't like, don't criticize this man, he 1627 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 2: could have been well. 1628 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,639 Speaker 7: He's denying his privilege. 1629 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 1: That's directly what it is, because Obama and Hillary both 1630 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,080 Speaker 1: have to do that. It's the expectation of perfection from 1631 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: the oppressed person have to be better than the oppressor. 1632 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,840 Speaker 2: He could have been such a better candidate if people 1633 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 2: would have just allowed for him to be criticized to 1634 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,599 Speaker 2: a point where he would improve. But I think his 1635 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 2: ego at the end of the day was like, fuck y'all. 1636 01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 2: If y'all not on my shit, then I'll just take 1637 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,679 Speaker 2: my ball and go home. As opposed to being like, well, look, 1638 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 2: I'm getting challenged by Black Lives Matter, let me let 1639 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 2: me learn on that, let me listen, and let me 1640 01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 2: evolve on that. I'm being challenged by people talk about 1641 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 2: gun control. Let me find a way to incorporate that 1642 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:32,839 Speaker 2: into my campaign. 1643 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:34,639 Speaker 3: But instead it's just like. 1644 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 1: Free do it, like a blip, people like do it. 1645 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: And it was always he always made it very clear 1646 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,839 Speaker 1: that he was annoyed that he had to Heah clearly 1647 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 1: has this anti media. 1648 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 7: How dare you ask me this? 1649 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 1: And that's what my mom told me, is that his 1650 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 1: private reputation is that he has an anger problem. He's 1651 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 1: very you know, even some of his physical behavior. If 1652 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 1: you watch some videos of him in congress, like there's 1653 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 1: that one video where he's like stalking behind this woman, 1654 01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing? You know, guys don't 1655 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: realize you know, that's why I don't trust an older 1656 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: guy like that. I'm sorry, no matter who you are, 1657 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 1: to actually truly have women's backs, like you know, and 1658 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,040 Speaker 1: if women want to support him, like that's really fine, 1659 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Like gri assigned him like Missbook that one time, being 1660 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,160 Speaker 1: like any girl who likes him is just trying to 1661 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: impress a guy or whatever, and she got fucking torn 1662 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 1: to shreds. And it's like, look, she comes from a 1663 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 1: generation where that's not a crazy thing to think, you know, 1664 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,240 Speaker 1: and it's still not. So it's like all of this stuff. 1665 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, they're the ones like it's not infighting. 1666 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,599 Speaker 1: We should be allowed to have these discussions and push 1667 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 1: each other one way or the next. But it becomes 1668 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 1: this whole either or And there are Hillary people who 1669 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 1: do it too. 1670 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 3: Of course, you know. 1671 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: It's like you should be able to critique both, you know. 1672 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 2: It's just it's weird because I think Hillary people have 1673 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 2: had twenty something years of supporting her and her working 1674 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 2: within those spaces to be prepared for the pushback, and 1675 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 2: it felt like a lot of Bernie supporters were not 1676 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,439 Speaker 2: prepared because he was kind of a flash in the pan. 1677 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:03,719 Speaker 3: Even with him being yeah, they're like he's not perfect, 1678 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 3: and like, uh, that's. 1679 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Not He also wrote like this weird rape fantasy when 1680 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 1: he was in college, he wrote this weird like thing 1681 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,720 Speaker 1: about women. 1682 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 7: Well and like I don't know. 1683 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: With Hillary, it still guts me sometimes. I still get 1684 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 1: really sick to my stomach thinking about how hard she 1685 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,759 Speaker 1: would have worked and that she doesn't get to because 1686 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,439 Speaker 1: first of all, we would have she would have been 1687 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: tough on Russia, but like beyond that, she just gets 1688 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: shit done. And it's like there would have been so 1689 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 1: much pushback. I mean, I think they would have started 1690 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,799 Speaker 1: trying to impeachure the second they took she took office, 1691 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,600 Speaker 1: So in some ways I think of that that we 1692 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: didn't have to go through because but the Republic control 1693 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 1: Congress and House. I mean, they would have made the 1694 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 1: election seem tame in terms of their attacks on her. 1695 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 1: And if you look at Fox News, they were preparing 1696 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,960 Speaker 1: for that. They were almost excited for that four more 1697 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 1: years of the way we trashed Obama and now we 1698 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 1: have so much more to work with because Hillary has 1699 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 1: been in public life for so much longer. And then 1700 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,880 Speaker 1: when they didn't get to do that, they were like, well, 1701 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,679 Speaker 1: let's just still use these stories anyway and keep attacking her. Yeah, 1702 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,680 Speaker 1: the ship is like they had to. 1703 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 2: The ship that kills me is just for me personally. 1704 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 2: I just think a lot of what she dealt with 1705 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 2: was simply because she was a woman. I still think 1706 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 2: she's the most qualified candidate we've ever had run for office, 1707 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:30,479 Speaker 2: ever had and I and especially seeing as Russia ship, 1708 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,799 Speaker 2: it really makes me angry that we kind of weren't 1709 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 2: allowed to say that for a full two years because 1710 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 2: there was gonna be like pushback to just being like, 1711 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,599 Speaker 2: oh no, I think she's much more qualified than everyone running. 1712 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 3: And it's like what. 1713 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 2: About super Predator or what about And I'm like that 1714 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,519 Speaker 2: was fucked up. And Bernie voted for the bill and like, 1715 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 2: like Joe Biden like was part of that. And you 1716 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 2: know when you come to like Anita, what about Joe. 1717 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: Biden and the Hill people are saying they want Joe 1718 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 1: Biden to run, It's like Joe Biden has his ship. 1719 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,719 Speaker 2: Right, I'm like, these are all choices that are quote 1720 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:11,640 Speaker 2: unquote not perfect, but understand they are all better than 1721 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 2: Trump and I and I still stand by what I said, 1722 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,639 Speaker 2: even with the harassment I got from like those Bernie 1723 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 2: campaign people, I still would have voted for Bernie over Trump. 1724 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 3: It's not even close. It's not even a question. 1725 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,680 Speaker 2: I wish everyone would have felt that way, because then 1726 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 2: we wouldn't have this motherfucker all right? 1727 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,639 Speaker 3: H Quincy Jones has apologized. Guys. He's uh. He said 1728 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 3: he was talking a little too much. 1729 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 5: I wouldn't apologize, but he said a couple of weeks ago. 1730 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 1: On something because he was loose slipped, I mean like 1731 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: he was really free. 1732 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 3: I love how women come up into his apology. Guys, 1733 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 3: here we go. A couple of weekends ago, my six daughters, 1734 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 3: who I'm beyond proud of, took me aside to do 1735 01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,760 Speaker 3: a surprise family intervention because of some stuffy things I've 1736 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 3: said in two recent interviews, and I've learned my lesson. 1737 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,679 Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'm so. 1738 01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 4: Grateful custom smooth out. 1739 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,839 Speaker 7: I just think they're like, what are you doing, grandpa? 1740 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 4: Right? What are you doing? 1741 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 2: Just like the movies, they needed women to edit a 1742 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 2: powerful man. I'm so grateful for my daughters because they 1743 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 2: aren't scared to stand up to their daddy. I'm an 1744 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 2: imperfect human and I'm not afraid to say it, and 1745 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry and I'm not afraid to say it. When 1746 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,639 Speaker 2: you've been fortunate enough to have lived such a long 1747 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,240 Speaker 2: and crazy life and you recently start stopped drinking three 1748 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 2: years ago, certain details about specific events which do not 1749 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 2: paint the full picture of my intentions nor experiences come 1750 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,679 Speaker 2: flooding back all at once, and even at eighty five. 1751 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 2: It's a parent that word vomit and bad mouthing is inexcusable. 1752 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 2: One of the hardest things about the situation is that 1753 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,760 Speaker 2: this bad mouthing has contradicted the very real messages I 1754 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,519 Speaker 2: tried to relay about racism and equality, equality, homophobia, poverty, 1755 01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 2: you name it. 1756 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:00,880 Speaker 3: And of course I don't want that. 1757 01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 2: I've already ready reached out to my friends privately, But 1758 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 2: when you live a public life, you have responsibility to 1759 01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 2: be an example. And since I do lead a public life, 1760 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 2: I wanted to make a public apology. I'm sorry to 1761 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 2: anyone who my words offended, and especially sorry to my 1762 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,080 Speaker 2: friends who are still here with me and to those 1763 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:18,639 Speaker 2: who aren't. 1764 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,560 Speaker 3: These friends are like blood family to me. 1765 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 2: To my dear family and friends, thank you for your grace, 1766 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling me. 1767 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,080 Speaker 3: Out when I've clearly made a mistake, many mistakes. 1768 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,600 Speaker 2: Even though sometimes it's difficult to receive criticism or discipline, 1769 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 2: especially publicly, I want you to know I hear you, 1770 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 2: I hear all of you, and I thank you so 1771 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 2: I encourage you to all please grow with me and 1772 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 2: keep on keeping all love an eighty five year old 1773 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 2: bow legged man who is still learning from his mistakes. 1774 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine having to explain to an 1775 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: eighty five year old that he went. 1776 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 7: Viral in a bad way? 1777 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:49,719 Speaker 3: Right? 1778 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: How would you know about that? If my dad went viral, 1779 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:54,639 Speaker 1: that would be my worst nightmare. 1780 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm just upset that, like we're not getting any more 1781 01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 2: of those interviews. 1782 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 3: Those are like, those are my favorite things of two 1783 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 3: weeks ago. 1784 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 2: His motherfucker telling everybody business and then changing the topic 1785 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,160 Speaker 2: when you ask a follow up question. 1786 01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,200 Speaker 5: That was so beautiful, right, because and the thing that 1787 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 5: was hilarious about it is that he could have went 1788 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 5: really old man and been like fucking. 1789 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,360 Speaker 2: Right, but he had six beautiful daughters that so he 1790 01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,760 Speaker 2: has willing to take him to the car. 1791 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:24,240 Speaker 9: Right. 1792 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 4: Somebody was like, Hey, this ain't going like you like 1793 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:27,599 Speaker 4: you think. 1794 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 2: You're like, you know, Martin Luther King used to beat 1795 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,080 Speaker 2: his wife. And then you're like, what the fuck Martin 1796 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 2: Luther King used to beat his wife? 1797 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:34,679 Speaker 3: You like Brazilian music? 1798 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: What? 1799 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 3: I guess? 1800 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, Well, what about this other thing? It's like, 1801 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,719 Speaker 2: I know who killed JF. That dude was so good. 1802 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:43,759 Speaker 7: It's funny. 1803 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: It just confirmed to me what I always thought, which 1804 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 1: is that every actor in the seventies was fucking like 1805 01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 1: Greek men. Yeah, like they were like all fucking each 1806 01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 1: other and this weird like male mentorship thing. 1807 01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 7: Like I knew it. I was like, I know all 1808 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 7: those Holly guys. 1809 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 1: Fuck. 1810 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I just want now, I just 1811 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,760 Speaker 2: really want to read his book. 1812 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 3: But now I feel like he's gonna redact a lot 1813 01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 3: of it or something. 1814 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:15,000 Speaker 2: And now, like I was, I was, yeah, I was 1815 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:15,679 Speaker 2: so interested. 1816 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,519 Speaker 3: He was gonna do like a documentary for Netflix. 1817 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,280 Speaker 2: And I was so interested because because like the other 1818 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 2: part that was interesting isn't even just like revealing secrets, 1819 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 2: but it's also him just being like, yo, youtuo album 1820 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 2: is whack right now, and I love I know, like 1821 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,639 Speaker 2: a brother, but this ship is trash. 1822 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,280 Speaker 3: They need to stop the Beatles. They was whack. 1823 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, Like, is that gonna 1824 01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,439 Speaker 2: be your documentary series on Netflix? You just calling people 1825 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 2: whack and being like nobody's good anymore, Like yes, I'll 1826 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 2: take two of those. But now we're not gonna get that. 1827 01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably they're probably like holding him back. 1828 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 1: He probably didn't even write that statement. And it's just 1829 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 1: like being tied to a chair right now, you know what? 1830 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,640 Speaker 4: See see this what happened? Women ruining everything? 1831 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 2: All his daughters, all his daughters are scholar from breaking 1832 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 2: bad now they're all scholar, right. 1833 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,639 Speaker 1: Skyler Jones? 1834 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 3: Uh, companies have cut companies have cut ties? 1835 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 7: Does that? Who did the intervention? 1836 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,080 Speaker 3: It was his six daughters that they did. 1837 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, six daughters. And are they all so light skin 1838 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:24,920 Speaker 1: mixed like that? 1839 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:25,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1840 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1841 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,000 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what Quincy was up. 1842 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,519 Speaker 4: To all shade, you know what I mean? 1843 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 3: If that's I don't know, I don't know. You know what, 1844 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1845 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:39,480 Speaker 1: Doesnt he mostly date white women? Is it not his reputation? 1846 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:40,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1847 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 2: He did talk about dating Ivanka, so I mean, if 1848 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 2: you if you would day, if you would date that 1849 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,400 Speaker 2: was in his interview. He said this, yeah, oh my god, 1850 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 2: if you would date Avanka, then you that's like you 1851 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 2: only funk with the high premium white women then, because 1852 01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 2: vodka is only available to us in class of men. 1853 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,040 Speaker 3: And even he was just and he said, can. 1854 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 1: You imagine what Ivanka Trump's brain is like I always 1855 01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:08,120 Speaker 1: try and think. 1856 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 7: I'm like, I feel like it's. 1857 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 3: Just like, yeah, I just I don't know. 1858 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 2: I feel like there's a certain luxury level of white 1859 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:21,360 Speaker 2: women that just exists out there in the world and 1860 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,760 Speaker 2: you get enough money and dudes can't help it. 1861 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,000 Speaker 3: Try like they just can't help it. So yes, it's 1862 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 3: like because that's why it's just. 1863 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,160 Speaker 2: Weird, because like they present those women the way they 1864 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 2: were present like a Bugatti, like, oh, this is my 1865 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 2: white woman. 1866 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 3: She came with the car. 1867 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that's mine too, and that's my damn. 1868 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,600 Speaker 1: It's so true. It's like it's like a hierarchy of objectification. 1869 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 1: Like they're like, you know, like men have this whole 1870 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 1: separate rewards system to being successful where they're like, I'm 1871 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,479 Speaker 1: going to get successful enough where I can mistreat women 1872 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,280 Speaker 1: way out of my leave. That's my goal, you know, 1873 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: and then like then yeah, it just works in always 1874 01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 1: just present them like objects. 1875 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:08,639 Speaker 2: It's so weird because it's like the same assembly line 1876 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,120 Speaker 2: model of white women. It's that's the only part that 1877 01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:12,559 Speaker 2: really bothers me and I know. 1878 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: Is not that Avanka is like out of his leg 1879 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,360 Speaker 1: That's what I I met men in general. 1880 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:18,960 Speaker 3: Whatever. 1881 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what Quincy's 1882 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 2: league is, to be honest, I don't know. But even then, 1883 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,800 Speaker 2: it's always like the same assembly line model. It's kind 1884 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,640 Speaker 2: of like Hugh Hefner would have the playmates and the 1885 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 2: whole thing is like Hugh Hefner mad living the dream 1886 01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,479 Speaker 2: he gets to have six with twenty seven girlfriends, And I'm. 1887 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 7: Like, it's the same test hare, How the fuck would 1888 01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:43,120 Speaker 7: you not that? What's crazy? 1889 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 1: I don't get why men are into that. I truly don't. Like, 1890 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,000 Speaker 1: it's truly weird to me. Like in Oklahoma, they have 1891 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 1: the most popular musical theater program is that OCU, and 1892 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,080 Speaker 1: you walk into the theater building and they have this 1893 01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 1: thing called the Wall of Beauties where it's every woman 1894 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 1: who's come from that program, who's gone into pageants, Miss 1895 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,160 Speaker 1: America and things like that. There's hundreds of them. They 1896 01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,720 Speaker 1: are all blonde. There's like two brunettes, and they're all 1897 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,559 Speaker 1: smiling the exact same way, and they all look exactly 1898 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,440 Speaker 1: the same. It's like they're literally manufactured. Like it's like insane. 1899 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,120 Speaker 1: It's like, uh, it's so crazy. 1900 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 2: Jay Z said in this one song where he was 1901 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 2: like put some colored girls in the MoMA because. 1902 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, you go in there, it's like. 1903 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 2: Supposed to be the echelon of beauty and it's just 1904 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 2: white women. 1905 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 3: Like what the fuck is this shit? 1906 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 1: He's like, true with have you ever heard of the 1907 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,679 Speaker 1: Gorilla Girls, this protest group. I think they are white, 1908 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 1: but they're like these anonymous women who basically make the 1909 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 1: point that in art where the artist is not even 1910 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,920 Speaker 1: seen in all of the major museums in New York, 1911 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,720 Speaker 1: the moment, the met even the the Whitney has been 1912 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 1: better because it's specifically set up that way. Ninety eight 1913 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,040 Speaker 1: percent of the artists are white men. And it's like 1914 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:56,000 Speaker 1: that's crazy, Like that's insane. It's like it's not representative 1915 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: of world art. 1916 01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 2: It's like in high school when you learn the classics 1917 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 2: and it's just a bunch of white people, You're like, 1918 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,960 Speaker 2: those are the only motherfuckers clas art. 1919 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,840 Speaker 1: History doesn't include Africa, India, Ancia, these places that are 1920 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of years of art or you know. 1921 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 5: When they do when you hear that they're touring right, 1922 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,720 Speaker 5: you know, like like and y'all made me think. 1923 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,479 Speaker 4: I never realized that you will hear them touring. 1924 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,800 Speaker 5: You'd be like, such, such a came over from Zimbabwe 1925 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 5: and it's gonna be going around to the museums here. 1926 01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,920 Speaker 5: You'll be like, oh, okay, but they'll never make it 1927 01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,600 Speaker 5: to the Echelina and they have classic art that we 1928 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 5: teach in the. 1929 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,679 Speaker 3: Schools and you can find it in your book. 1930 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 4: We don't have a permanent wind here. 1931 01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 3: Let me so, marshall. 1932 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 2: We have an hour and twenty minute limit and I 1933 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 2: have to go to the next segment and bring everyone 1934 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 2: right back on screen. It'll just take like a minute, 1935 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 2: so you'll get like a little pop up, give me 1936 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 2: one second, guys coming right back. But yeah, that, like 1937 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,479 Speaker 2: jay Z says, put some colored girls up in the 1938 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 2: Mama half. These brides ain't got nothing on Wallona from 1939 01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 2: from Good Times. It is like the make me bring 1940 01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:07,519 Speaker 2: Selma in it like just talking about other other beautiful women. Uh, 1941 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 2: let me get y'all back on screen. But it was like, yeah, 1942 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,200 Speaker 2: it's almost like, oh, this woman's of color. Well, then 1943 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 2: obviously she doesn't deserve to have her beauty worship. And 1944 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,320 Speaker 2: then we wonder why people have fucked up beauty ideals 1945 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 2: and why people think, oh, my hair is nappy or 1946 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,240 Speaker 2: yeah I'm too. 1947 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:25,599 Speaker 3: Fat or whatever, you know. 1948 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 2: And then when these men get this access to this shit, 1949 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 2: they always pick the same type of fucking like seventy 1950 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,320 Speaker 2: five pound models, like over and over and over again. 1951 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,920 Speaker 3: And then but if you were to go to these 1952 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:36,400 Speaker 3: guys and. 1953 01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:40,800 Speaker 2: Be like, so, do you feel like your you know, 1954 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 2: your preference is informed by society that put them into it, right, 1955 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 2: it's always like, no, that's complete coincidence. I only fuck 1956 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,280 Speaker 2: the same type of woman everybody else with money. 1957 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Fuck, well, that's not too because men are actually taught 1958 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 1: even to fight there because men know that if they bring, 1959 01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 1: for instance, a bigger woman like those type of men, 1960 01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: she doesn't have the same objectification value as a skinny blonde. 1961 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,080 Speaker 1: So even if that's his type, his family will see 1962 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,880 Speaker 1: him as a failure or couldn't get that type of woman, 1963 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 1: So he might date a woman he's not even attracted to. 1964 01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,920 Speaker 1: And as society says, it's better, and. 1965 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 2: It literally never works that way for women, like we 1966 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,439 Speaker 2: just do not like it's honestly amazing that we just 1967 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,080 Speaker 2: don't have more, like you know, like Kathleen Kennedy is 1968 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 2: the biggest execut at Disney right now, she's held all 1969 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 2: the Star Wars movies and like, like she's responsible for 1970 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,040 Speaker 2: billions of dollars and we should just like see her 1971 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,840 Speaker 2: at award shows with just some dude who's like hot 1972 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,519 Speaker 2: as fuck and he's like twenty one. It's like Jason Momoa, 1973 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 2: but he's not an actor or famous, so he's just 1974 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,479 Speaker 2: like just like, oh, that dude is fucking the shit 1975 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,400 Speaker 2: out of her, Like that is the entire purpose of Like, 1976 01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,000 Speaker 2: there's no way she respects him. There's no like they 1977 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,840 Speaker 2: probably don't talk about things and it. 1978 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 1: Shit, and we did even that out, then sure have objectification. 1979 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's like you know what, like if it 1980 01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,200 Speaker 1: actually did work both ways, no one would be mad 1981 01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 1: at a fifty year old dude dating at thirty year 1982 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,960 Speaker 1: old do whatever you want, like you know, but it doesn't. 1983 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Like Unfortunately, if you're directly using your privilege in order 1984 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:10,200 Speaker 1: to have an objectified woman be part of your value, 1985 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 1: then you're gonna get You're gonna be made to look like. 1986 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 2: Any Leonardo Dicaviro is infamous for dating the same like 1987 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:22,519 Speaker 2: nineteen year old Moral for album. Yeah, Like it's no 1988 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,800 Speaker 2: matter how old he is, it's just like, hey man, 1989 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,200 Speaker 2: he's sixty, he just you want to ask him for that, right, 1990 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:29,560 Speaker 2: And it's just like. 1991 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,880 Speaker 1: You as a man like that. Even George Clooney, it's 1992 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,640 Speaker 1: like he did that with women forever and then he 1993 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,280 Speaker 1: got to marry the best woman alive, like the all 1994 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,519 Speaker 1: Clooney Like, good for you, George, Like that's why I 1995 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 1: loved like Tina Fey and Amy Poehler being like and 1996 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: tonight like they're like, this woman blah blah blah listed 1997 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,240 Speaker 1: all of her accomplishments and they go and tonight we're 1998 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 1: honoring her husband. 1999 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always. 2000 01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,799 Speaker 1: Because you know, yeah, thinking her as the winner. 2001 01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,680 Speaker 7: It's like he's the winner, you know. 2002 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2003 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,800 Speaker 2: It's always funny too, because you know he just got 2004 01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,400 Speaker 2: to a certain age and was like and now I'm 2005 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 2: ready to have a conversation with a woman. 2006 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,719 Speaker 3: God everything, wait. 2007 01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,719 Speaker 7: Till they're fifty if they want, that's the whole. 2008 01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,960 Speaker 1: That's that's where the epitome of divide like really comes in, 2009 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,439 Speaker 1: that sort of natural divide of like if men could 2010 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,559 Speaker 1: look at women and be empathetic, Okay, you need to 2011 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,440 Speaker 1: have kids by thirty five, let me adjust my dating. 2012 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:20,040 Speaker 7: Patterns under you. 2013 01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,080 Speaker 1: But they're like, no, I can have a kid till 2014 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm fifty. So I'm in a date twenty year old 2015 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,600 Speaker 1: until I'm fifty. I have a good life. 2016 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:31,479 Speaker 2: My god, all right, let's get into it. Yeah, I 2017 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:32,960 Speaker 2: mean sure, yes, yes, a man. 2018 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 5: Something. 2019 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,639 Speaker 4: Oh I was gonna say, yeah. 2020 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 5: I guess if I was in the position I will 2021 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,200 Speaker 5: you talking about like Kathleen Kinny, I would. 2022 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:42,639 Speaker 4: Be like her. 2023 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 5: If I could affoid any any car, I would have 2024 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:47,599 Speaker 5: me a Honda Civic. 2025 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 4: I will also have me uh uh one. 2026 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 5: Of them fancy cars you can't pronounce alone with the 2027 01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,840 Speaker 5: Tesla phone in space, like I would have me a 2028 01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:01,479 Speaker 5: mini van, you know, answry b like why why am 2029 01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 5: I gonna drive outside and have the same vehicle every day? 2030 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 3: When I can afford We'll see. 2031 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,320 Speaker 2: What's interesting is like if you're a you're still thinking 2032 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,800 Speaker 2: like a woman, because a dude would just have seven 2033 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,600 Speaker 2: sports cards that were like the same color like that, 2034 01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 2: Like that's. 2035 01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:15,720 Speaker 3: What, that's what. 2036 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 2: That's the situa what Uefner does, Like Hugh Hefner, like 2037 01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,360 Speaker 2: Derek Jeters, all these dudes that getting known as being playboys, 2038 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,559 Speaker 2: they just date the same fucking chick over and over 2039 01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,160 Speaker 2: and then like that chick age is out you know, 2040 01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,040 Speaker 2: like she's now I'm twenty three, and he's like, oh God, 2041 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:31,880 Speaker 2: a blemish. 2042 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,920 Speaker 3: I gotta go back and find another eighteen year old over. 2043 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:38,519 Speaker 5: And I guess that's very different because like my I 2044 01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,240 Speaker 5: would change according to my hair color. You gotta match 2045 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,840 Speaker 5: my hair color whenever my color my hair today, that's 2046 01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:44,800 Speaker 5: what color I want my. 2047 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 1: Man to be. 2048 01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,680 Speaker 4: I'm just like, that's the shit I would be doing 2049 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:48,240 Speaker 4: that new shit. 2050 01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just surprised there's not like one woman, yeah, 2051 01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,439 Speaker 2: you know, like just one celebrity woman where we're like, oh, no, 2052 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,240 Speaker 2: she keep a bad bitch, you know what I mean, 2053 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,759 Speaker 2: Like all she do is take different like she's dating 2054 01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,559 Speaker 2: the latest dude to be in the you know, like 2055 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,679 Speaker 2: what like she's dating the latest NFL player or something 2056 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,920 Speaker 2: like that, And we're just like, yeah, all she does 2057 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,760 Speaker 2: is replace these dudes over and over, like in a 2058 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 2: weird way. You want to know what's fucked up in 2059 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 2: a weird way. 2060 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,360 Speaker 3: The Kardashian is the closest we got the women that just. 2061 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:19,640 Speaker 7: About to say that. 2062 01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:24,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's interesting with them, yeah, because 2063 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,880 Speaker 1: they like have that thing where they kind of do 2064 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,240 Speaker 1: do that, but at the same time, they're a little 2065 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 1: more angled towards me approval as opposed. 2066 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,720 Speaker 2: To you know what it is. It's the mom that's 2067 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,320 Speaker 2: the that's that's the one. She's the only one that 2068 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:40,640 Speaker 2: really be like, I'm never marrying this motherfucker. 2069 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:42,920 Speaker 3: He never gets my money. 2070 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 2: He's about twenty years younger than me, and I will 2071 01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 2: I will fuck him until I'm tired of him, and 2072 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,599 Speaker 2: then I will replace his ass with another one. 2073 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the only one. 2074 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,040 Speaker 2: The rest of them kind of still have some ship 2075 01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 2: in them where they're like, you know, uh, they get 2076 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 2: attached to these men with children and money and shit. 2077 01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,599 Speaker 3: But I can see, my god, that's guy. 2078 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,639 Speaker 1: I'm just like Jesus Christ, like throw him off a boat, 2079 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 1: like seriously, Like I can't. Like I'm like this poor 2080 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,360 Speaker 1: woman having to deal with him and have his kids, 2081 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,679 Speaker 1: Like I would kill myself, Like he's so I can't 2082 01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 1: deal with those braddy grown men like I just cannot. 2083 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,840 Speaker 1: It's so tiring to even watch. 2084 01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,200 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I feel like there are some. 2085 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,559 Speaker 1: Women like that's I think becoming a little you know, 2086 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,240 Speaker 1: it started with the Ashton Kutcher Demi Levado a little bit, 2087 01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, but that's so the exception to the rule still, 2088 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 1: whereas if you're a bachelor male celebrity, they assume you're 2089 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,880 Speaker 1: dating a twenty five year old, right, you know, right? 2090 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,559 Speaker 2: No, but yeah, I do think we're I do think 2091 01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,960 Speaker 2: we're due. Like we need it, We just need us 2092 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,640 Speaker 2: a woman, and I don't want it to be no 2093 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,759 Speaker 2: like real young woman either. I wanted to be like, 2094 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 2: like if Holly Berry suddenly just started dating the same 2095 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 2: twenty one year old dude forever, I would love that, 2096 01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 2: cause like, fucking yeah, you know what I mean, Like, well, 2097 01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,240 Speaker 2: who the fuck are we trying to impress? You're rich already, 2098 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:00,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 2099 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 3: Women got getting. 2100 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:04,920 Speaker 1: Women usually want an intellectual equal. That's why that doesn't happen. 2101 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 2: Right women, because women are better human beings because they'd 2102 01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 2: be they're forced to be. But I won't to see 2103 01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 2: somebody break the moat and be like, oh no, I'm 2104 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 2: shallow as fuck, you know what I mean. 2105 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,439 Speaker 7: There will be women like that, and I love it. 2106 01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 7: That's the thing. 2107 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,120 Speaker 1: It's like, people, man, I'm like, look, there are enough 2108 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 1: male apologists. I'm a female apologiz. I don't care. 2109 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,200 Speaker 7: I will defend Eileen Werno's I don't care. 2110 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:25,799 Speaker 2: I want to I want to see, like an interview 2111 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 2: with somebody's like, well what happened? You know, you were 2112 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,160 Speaker 2: at an award show with this guy last week, and 2113 01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 2: now there's this new guy. 2114 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:34,120 Speaker 3: Like, oh he got a little gut, got a little. 2115 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 7: Fast and yeah he turned twenty five. 2116 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,280 Speaker 1: I just wasn't any it anymore. 2117 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,599 Speaker 4: I've seen a pimple on his face and I wasn't 2118 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 4: here for it. 2119 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,559 Speaker 1: I actually foind a guy whose dick was a centimeter larger. 2120 01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys just anyway. 2121 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:57,439 Speaker 4: I looked down he had on open toes that had 2122 01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 4: to let him go. 2123 01:37:58,320 --> 01:37:59,679 Speaker 3: That would be such a great scandal. 2124 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,760 Speaker 4: I would be here for you. She'd be like his 2125 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:06,960 Speaker 4: but got a little flabby. 2126 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,000 Speaker 3: I'm tight. 2127 01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,440 Speaker 2: He had to go, right he said something on Instagram. 2128 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 2: Not a fan, So just moved on to the next. 2129 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,040 Speaker 1: Just was I couldn't be after that because they're. 2130 01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,519 Speaker 2: Like because there are dudes that are like Instagram fitness 2131 01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,360 Speaker 2: people and ship too, like like, you know, like an 2132 01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,760 Speaker 2: Instagram you can be an Instagram micro and like get 2133 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,599 Speaker 2: you know, there's famous guys who will go and trying 2134 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 2: to like there has to be some equivalent to like 2135 01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,679 Speaker 2: there's Instagram guys who are fitness people. 2136 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,760 Speaker 5: It's some underground somewhere that we just don't get the 2137 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,439 Speaker 5: play and like like like Oprah just see some dude 2138 01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,120 Speaker 5: on Instagram, is like, give me his contact info. 2139 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fly him out. I'm gonna fly him out 2140 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:55,680 Speaker 2: real quick. You right, Stanley, you knew what this was. 2141 01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,720 Speaker 1: Uhvin You guys haven't slept in the same bed for years. 2142 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 2: I think likes to watch, you know what I mean. 2143 01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,160 Speaker 2: He got that vibe like he likes to watch. 2144 01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:08,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, absolutely like Ricky Morning. 2145 01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably in this, I mean hopefully in this. 2146 01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 1: Imagine the disclosures that go into having a freeway with Oprah, 2147 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,720 Speaker 1: Like you have to like give her some of your 2148 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:19,479 Speaker 1: blood that she keeps in the violence. 2149 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:20,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 2150 01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,120 Speaker 1: She's like, if you're telling anyone about this, I can 2151 01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,840 Speaker 1: clone you and kill you right right. 2152 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,719 Speaker 2: I feel like when Oprah, I feel like, when Oprah's 2153 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,719 Speaker 2: done with you, she's like a very like the money's 2154 01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:31,840 Speaker 2: on the dresser type person. 2155 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 4: Come on, it's a business. Everything is a business transaction. 2156 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:35,439 Speaker 5: Doll. 2157 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:36,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I don't. 2158 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:37,559 Speaker 7: I know. 2159 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,559 Speaker 4: She was She was like, I just made your stock 2160 01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,639 Speaker 4: go up. Take that money. 2161 01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,559 Speaker 2: Least I think you walk out and then like y'all 2162 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,920 Speaker 2: greets you and gets your life back together, and then like, yeah, you. 2163 01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,599 Speaker 4: Have to go through a transition to get back. 2164 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 2: Into the real world. The gil Gail gets you to 2165 01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,320 Speaker 2: talk leaving down the elevator. 2166 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:57,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a three day process, like to tranquilize you. 2167 01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:02,280 Speaker 1: Up in her room demanding black shed with Oprah. 2168 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:06,719 Speaker 2: He calm, Yeah, it's basically like black Mirror, but for 2169 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:07,280 Speaker 2: having sex. 2170 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 5: And she has her own dating app, right, did nobody 2171 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,479 Speaker 5: get access to you don't even you don't sign up 2172 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:16,560 Speaker 5: for it, signs. 2173 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 4: You up all of a sudden, just shows up on 2174 01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:18,880 Speaker 4: your phone. 2175 01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 3: Just look on your phone. It's like, I've been selective. 2176 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:26,280 Speaker 3: What's the app? You can talk? 2177 01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 1: She like holograms herself into your living room. 2178 01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 4: We're talking. 2179 01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,760 Speaker 5: We're talking about Wakanda. She already on wakan. You picked 2180 01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 5: your phone up, somebody pops up. You have been chosen. 2181 01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 3: You gotta you, gotta take. 2182 01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,360 Speaker 1: You were talking earlier about black beauty too. Did you 2183 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,960 Speaker 1: see that lupieda interview on the Daily Show. We're talking 2184 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 1: about Also, that's what's really cool about afrofuturism, which I think, 2185 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 1: like you know, my friend does was like an afrofuture 2186 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,000 Speaker 1: is an afrofuturistic artist, and it was interesting because, like 2187 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:58,679 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, oh, that sounds so cool. 2188 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,200 Speaker 7: And then seeing Black Panther. 2189 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this is like a movement, like 2190 01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 1: this is going to be the future of art. It's 2191 01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,479 Speaker 1: like afro futures and this type of thing that people 2192 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen in a mainstream way. 2193 01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:10,679 Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's one of the reasons. 2194 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,439 Speaker 2: I really I know people go up and down on him, 2195 01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,040 Speaker 2: but I really fuck with The Daily Show under Trevor Noah. 2196 01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:18,879 Speaker 3: I recorded and watch it every day. 2197 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,120 Speaker 2: But it's also for interviews like that and moments like that, 2198 01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:26,040 Speaker 2: because like that interview there, because she's gonna play his 2199 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,920 Speaker 2: mom in the in the movie that's based off of 2200 01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 2: the book on his life, and so they were like 2201 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,880 Speaker 2: talking about that during the interview. And then also, you know, 2202 01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,160 Speaker 2: you're talking about afrocentrist, when you're talking about beauty standards, 2203 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,479 Speaker 2: you're talking about all this stuff, and it felt like 2204 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,080 Speaker 2: such a fresh interview that you wouldn't get to get 2205 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,720 Speaker 2: that anywhere. And you know, like I said, he'll have 2206 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,920 Speaker 2: his ups and downs. I do think you know, he's 2207 01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,760 Speaker 2: not from here, so which is how he got the job. 2208 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:56,680 Speaker 2: I think, right if that was like j just be like, 2209 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,040 Speaker 2: we're not talking to Tommy Laurence. So I don't even 2210 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 2: know even ask me that. 2211 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,679 Speaker 4: That would be. Why would you ask. 2212 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:05,240 Speaker 7: So much? 2213 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? But I love this like reimagining of like what 2214 01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,920 Speaker 1: sort of like African beauty could be outside of like 2215 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,679 Speaker 1: you know, I wonder like with the art that's coming 2216 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,160 Speaker 1: of this, because that's almost like why I tried to 2217 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,479 Speaker 1: do with the Massandriya, I just got so miserable. I'm like, 2218 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,720 Speaker 1: let me, at least in my imagination, live in a 2219 01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,800 Speaker 1: world without men. And now to see like, you know, 2220 01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 1: a whole black movement behind that, like is so cool 2221 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,960 Speaker 1: in that movie to be a spectator. 2222 01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,240 Speaker 2: And that in that movie hair is like his own character. 2223 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,559 Speaker 1: I love the red mud hair from those from that 2224 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 1: one tribe that there's like real where the people put 2225 01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:44,240 Speaker 1: the red dirt and the mud. Oh so beautiful. 2226 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 2: Oh all right, So here's the thing I was gonna 2227 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 2: say though, I do think that on the Oprah app 2228 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,000 Speaker 2: it would basically be like the Hunger Games. 2229 01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh for love people, yes. 2230 01:42:58,800 --> 01:42:59,759 Speaker 4: Oh for in the center. 2231 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,679 Speaker 2: Only one of y'all gonna get the fuck Oprah and all, y'all, 2232 01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,720 Speaker 2: everybody that don't win dies, and you. 2233 01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 5: Know what, and that gonna be traps. There's gonna be 2234 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,840 Speaker 5: some good traps. Some of the traps gonna have the 2235 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,719 Speaker 5: Kardashians pop up. Some of them gonna have cars. Women 2236 01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:13,479 Speaker 5: like she's. 2237 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,599 Speaker 2: Gonna I think you have to fight to the death. 2238 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 2: I think there's an i Q test. I think there's 2239 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,839 Speaker 2: a Redden test. I thing have to give a speech. 2240 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 2: I think there's I think you have to do a 2241 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:22,360 Speaker 2: lot of stuff physical. 2242 01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:28,479 Speaker 1: She doesn't do anything. She just sits there right right. 2243 01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 2: It's like you finally made it to Oprah's bed chamber, 2244 01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,320 Speaker 2: please her, and then that's it, and you. 2245 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:36,720 Speaker 5: Know what, And when you have sex with her, it's 2246 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,439 Speaker 5: probably other people around because they were like, oh what 2247 01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:38,800 Speaker 5: you not? 2248 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,040 Speaker 4: If you do anything, we're gonna kill you. 2249 01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,760 Speaker 2: On the spotsom Stedman is watching from behind a security 2250 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,080 Speaker 2: glass like in the police station. 2251 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:47,479 Speaker 10: And then. 2252 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,679 Speaker 2: And then then around the room there are different armed 2253 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:53,679 Speaker 2: people to make sure that you don't do anything. 2254 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,920 Speaker 4: Froggy, Yeah, they was talking about in the chat room. 2255 01:43:56,200 --> 01:44:00,000 Speaker 5: And then after you're done, you're gonna get her favorite 2256 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,759 Speaker 5: thing basket, like does she like everything? 2257 01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,559 Speaker 2: She gonna give it to you if if you if 2258 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,200 Speaker 2: you the new car, Yes, that's if you please her, 2259 01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,080 Speaker 2: though I feel like if you don't, then you just 2260 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:12,439 Speaker 2: die like a black widow killed. 2261 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 1: I only him nine times the way I've ever had 2262 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:17,280 Speaker 1: in my life. 2263 01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,240 Speaker 4: You're like, what is happening here? And then you know what. 2264 01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,920 Speaker 5: You go through, all the training you get, you get 2265 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,040 Speaker 5: the three days to decompress, and then exactly and you'll 2266 01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 5: never remember it. Something I think I sucked, Oprah, And 2267 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,800 Speaker 5: the second you say that, a little short circuit would 2268 01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:37,519 Speaker 5: go off in your brain and then you. 2269 01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 2: Right, that's if you did a good job. I think 2270 01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:40,840 Speaker 2: if you did a bad job, you just die. 2271 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:42,840 Speaker 4: Right at the kill. 2272 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:44,880 Speaker 7: Kill him on the spot. 2273 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,920 Speaker 3: Right, kill him, kill his family, kill everyone who ever 2274 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 3: knew him. He disappointed opera. All right, let's get into 2275 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:51,240 Speaker 3: our segment. 2276 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,000 Speaker 2: Other segment, guys, let's do a little bit of fucking 2277 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:54,639 Speaker 2: with black people. 2278 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,000 Speaker 3: We're just fucking with those black people. We're just fucking 2279 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:11,599 Speaker 3: with those blacks. We're just fucking with fucking with black people. 2280 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:12,800 Speaker 3: That's right, guys. 2281 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,599 Speaker 2: It's kind of play the game that we all hate 2282 01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,200 Speaker 2: to play. It's fucking with black people. 2283 01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:16,720 Speaker 3: The game. 2284 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,559 Speaker 2: We go all around the globe, we find different articles 2285 01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:20,240 Speaker 2: that make us feel fucked with them, we'll signe points 2286 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,559 Speaker 2: sports from zero twoe hundred innamals to twenty five. 2287 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:26,320 Speaker 3: Today's intestins everybody, Yes, everybody, let's see who's fucking with 2288 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:27,200 Speaker 3: us today, guys. 2289 01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 2: A proposed South Carolina law would find saggy pants wearers, 2290 01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,240 Speaker 2: or as they call them in South Carolina, niggers. 2291 01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 3: I know what you're doing. 2292 01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,879 Speaker 2: I know what you're doing South Carolina. Ye dogs, So 2293 01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,439 Speaker 2: saggy pants wears. Uh yeah, apparently this is still twenty 2294 01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 2: eighteen February twenty seconds. 2295 01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:51,320 Speaker 3: So this just happened. 2296 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,680 Speaker 2: A proposed law in South Carolina's looking to find a 2297 01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,000 Speaker 2: dish out community service to those who get caught with 2298 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:01,280 Speaker 2: their pants blow their waist and yes, yep, come on, 2299 01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,639 Speaker 2: community service guys. You guys know how it goes. Oh wait, 2300 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:06,760 Speaker 2: they gonna let me see. 2301 01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:11,560 Speaker 4: They might have proposed law in South Carolina. Part of 2302 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,080 Speaker 4: everything I imagine it's gonna be. 2303 01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:17,120 Speaker 3: I do. 2304 01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I do like the idea of getting people 2305 01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:26,719 Speaker 2: more involved in the community and having them do community service. 2306 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 3: But I don't like the way they're picking this because 2307 01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:30,280 Speaker 3: it's always some black shit, you. 2308 01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:32,559 Speaker 5: Know, right, And what about the butt crack plumbers. You know, 2309 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,720 Speaker 5: plumber's going to your house and they bend over. All 2310 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:35,920 Speaker 5: you see is the crack of the ass. 2311 01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 2: I think we should make people do community service that 2312 01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 2: have make America grade again. Hats why not you know, 2313 01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,879 Speaker 2: o dirty overalls? You know, high water pants? 2314 01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,680 Speaker 1: What's the sagging harm people? That's the thing if you're 2315 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 1: making laws, especially if you're a Republican who says that 2316 01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,280 Speaker 1: we should have the fewest amount of laws as possible, 2317 01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,200 Speaker 1: and every public safety law we have should really have 2318 01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:02,519 Speaker 1: a purpose. Who literally what could you even legally argue 2319 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,280 Speaker 1: is the problem with sagging? Right? 2320 01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 7: I mean it's not appropriate. 2321 01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,960 Speaker 1: Like, okay, so we're gonna pass so don't sag in church, 2322 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,800 Speaker 1: but you're gonna pass a law about it. 2323 01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:12,960 Speaker 7: Like that's insane. 2324 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:14,680 Speaker 3: It's just big government, right, and. 2325 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:18,080 Speaker 1: Especially respectability politics, Like that's crazy. 2326 01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it boils back to one of the things 2327 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,920 Speaker 5: you said before. This is a way to distract. 2328 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,400 Speaker 4: From the real ship that we ought to be talking 2329 01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:25,599 Speaker 4: about in passing law. 2330 01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,439 Speaker 2: Listen, guys, these people aren't sagging their pants. No more 2331 01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:29,919 Speaker 2: of these kids will get shot in schools. 2332 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:30,439 Speaker 3: And that's just a. 2333 01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:34,320 Speaker 2: Fact that all right, back to looking to find and alright, 2334 01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 2: why is this article not giving me audio? 2335 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:36,400 Speaker 8: All right? 2336 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,040 Speaker 3: Let me try this one more time. God damn it. 2337 01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:43,320 Speaker 2: Uh all right, it looks like it's working. 2338 01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:44,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2339 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,920 Speaker 2: Ship don't want to give me audio anyway. They mad 2340 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:48,120 Speaker 2: about these pants. 2341 01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:53,160 Speaker 3: I'll just read it. Although the offense would be non criminal. 2342 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,719 Speaker 5: Right or one hundred because yeah, you're just doing this 2343 01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,719 Speaker 5: this This is a way of extra revenue. Somebody got 2344 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,400 Speaker 5: the money slash some and somebody was like, well, how. 2345 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,599 Speaker 4: Can we get extra revenue? 2346 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 1: Yep, or stopping somebody even because if I stopped you 2347 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 1: because you're sagging, now I can search you. Now, I 2348 01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:13,439 Speaker 1: can plan right right and charge you. Shaywalking disproportionately effects 2349 01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:14,840 Speaker 1: like down below it. 2350 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,720 Speaker 2: And it's also weird because they still find you even 2351 01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:20,240 Speaker 2: though it's not criminal. You will be required to pay 2352 01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,519 Speaker 2: a twenty five dollars fine for the first offense, fifty 2353 01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:24,880 Speaker 2: for the second, and seventy five dollars or. 2354 01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:27,120 Speaker 3: Six hours community service or both for the third. 2355 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:31,639 Speaker 2: Thereafter the offenses, you know this is gonna disproportionately prepare 2356 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:32,639 Speaker 2: impact black people. 2357 01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:34,640 Speaker 3: You know where the police patrol for this are going 2358 01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:35,960 Speaker 3: to be black neighborhoods. 2359 01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 2: And it also gives another reason for the police to 2360 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,600 Speaker 2: have an interaction with a black person that's mine in 2361 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:45,640 Speaker 2: their fucking business, and that's dangerous in itself. You know, like, 2362 01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 2: I don't need you coming up to me like sir, surday, 2363 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,320 Speaker 2: you know what you did wrong? It's like walk into 2364 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:55,719 Speaker 2: my house like, nope, depends are below the required house 2365 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 2: Bill forty nine fifty seven. You got a sagging situation, 2366 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,559 Speaker 2: I'm calling in there. We got a guys, we got 2367 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,880 Speaker 2: a button fly one seventy five. You gotta pull over 2368 01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,040 Speaker 2: right now. Got a cold one seventy five. 2369 01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. 2370 01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 2: Uh, it's and then of course window Gilliard representative said 2371 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,040 Speaker 2: he co responds to bill. He said, the pants now 2372 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,040 Speaker 2: are being worn below the knees. If a female was 2373 01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,479 Speaker 2: to go around in the same fashion pants down by 2374 01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,880 Speaker 2: their ankles or below the waist, we would see that 2375 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,519 Speaker 2: as in decent exposure. Oh so he's just he's just 2376 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:33,360 Speaker 2: a feminist, guys, he's trying to make it even everybody. Right, Listen, 2377 01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,439 Speaker 2: I care about women today because it allows me to 2378 01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,240 Speaker 2: be racist now any other day. They gotta have them babies, okay, 2379 01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 2: if they no abortions always. 2380 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,639 Speaker 1: Been though, I mean that's pretty much the whole history 2381 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,120 Speaker 1: of the South. I care about women today, white women 2382 01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,120 Speaker 1: because it allows me to be racist, and then tomorrow 2383 01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit her right. 2384 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,200 Speaker 3: Uh zero t one hundred can. 2385 01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,200 Speaker 4: Oh, that's one hundred. 2386 01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,960 Speaker 3: That's one hundred can What about you, Marsha, Oh, I 2387 01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:58,320 Speaker 3: get it. 2388 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, one hundred. 2389 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,479 Speaker 3: You can still be fucked with. You don't have to 2390 01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:01,880 Speaker 3: be black. 2391 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,920 Speaker 2: And one hundred one hundred as well for me. Uh, 2392 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:09,400 Speaker 2: here's here's the other one. Michael Still. Guys may know him. 2393 01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:13,799 Speaker 3: As Oh God, he's the ex RNC head Michael Steele, 2394 01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:14,400 Speaker 3: black dude. 2395 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,559 Speaker 4: He didn't have that job, you know what. 2396 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,960 Speaker 2: You know what's funny, He had it until he couldn't 2397 01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,160 Speaker 2: until Obama getting elected fucked him all the way up 2398 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,320 Speaker 2: because he was like, they were happy to have their 2399 01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:28,360 Speaker 2: token black dude. 2400 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:29,200 Speaker 3: Wow. 2401 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,920 Speaker 2: But when they saw he was making zero in roads 2402 01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,600 Speaker 2: with black the black community for Republicans and more importantly, 2403 01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:41,240 Speaker 2: they resented Obama's blackness and he just kind of became 2404 01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,720 Speaker 2: their escape though, because they hated they were like, it's his. 2405 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,160 Speaker 1: Their whole argument too, because they say, oh, black people 2406 01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,599 Speaker 1: only like Obama because he's black. Okay, then why don't 2407 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,160 Speaker 1: your black conservatives do well because maybe black people have 2408 01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,280 Speaker 1: more depth than that. Like, I mean, that's the thing. 2409 01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,599 Speaker 1: They try and throw these shallow people out. You're like, oh, 2410 01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,160 Speaker 1: they'll black their vote for them because they think that. 2411 01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:00,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2412 01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm always like, why why did Herman Kane get zero 2413 01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:07,960 Speaker 2: of the votes? None of us like like Herman Kay's 2414 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 2: like wife probably didn't vote for him. What the fuck 2415 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,360 Speaker 2: are you talking about? Oh, black people are such cheap. No, 2416 01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,320 Speaker 2: we just vote on our issues. 2417 01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:15,799 Speaker 3: More than anybody. 2418 01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:21,639 Speaker 2: Funny, here's h So Michael still got into a heated 2419 01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 2: talk with Seapack executive match slap. 2420 01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:30,719 Speaker 3: That's nearly his name. Unfortunate, Matt slap. 2421 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,080 Speaker 4: Unfortunate that you know a kid. 2422 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:37,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, all right, so let me see if I 2423 01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:38,280 Speaker 3: can place on this audio. 2424 01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,600 Speaker 2: I don't know nine minutes. Man, y'all better hurry up 2425 01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:42,479 Speaker 2: and get to this ship. I don't know, you know, 2426 01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:43,679 Speaker 2: I just read the quotes. 2427 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't want to hear Michael spill 2428 01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:46,599 Speaker 3: talk that long. Anyway. 2429 01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:51,240 Speaker 2: A speaker at the Conservative conference slurred Michael Steele as 2430 01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 2: a black guy during the speech Friday night. The confrontation 2431 01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:58,200 Speaker 2: game was slap apologizing profusely to Still. That wasn't enough 2432 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,519 Speaker 2: for Still, who plump pump up Slap for the racism. 2433 01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 2: I'll displaying a sea pack after Slap called the comment unfortunate. 2434 01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 2: It was stupid, not unfortunate. Call it what it is, 2435 01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,280 Speaker 2: Still exclaimed. He exclaimed, Okay, now I do have to 2436 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,479 Speaker 2: play it audio. Hold one. 2437 01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,360 Speaker 9: I appreciate it we're even having this conversation, and I 2438 01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,120 Speaker 9: would have been here as sooner if I possibly could be. 2439 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,200 Speaker 9: And I want to address all your concerns, but I 2440 01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 9: just want to say all that matters to me and 2441 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:25,599 Speaker 9: all this is the friendships I have. 2442 01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:27,120 Speaker 8: They're important to me. 2443 01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 9: And we're gonna have some disagreements, oh yeah, and people 2444 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,880 Speaker 9: are going to say some things that are a little sharp, 2445 01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,400 Speaker 9: but I do You're not only my friend. 2446 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:35,920 Speaker 8: I love you and I have a lot of respect 2447 01:52:35,960 --> 01:52:36,160 Speaker 8: for you. 2448 01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,639 Speaker 9: And I know that you've had a not an easy 2449 01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,479 Speaker 9: path and politics, and you and I have been in 2450 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,680 Speaker 9: some of those back rooms in this very place, on 2451 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:46,720 Speaker 9: some of those paths, and I just wanted you to. 2452 01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,200 Speaker 8: Know that I appreciate that. Now. I appreciate that very much. 2453 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:49,519 Speaker 8: In it. 2454 01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,840 Speaker 2: First of all, before we get into it, that white 2455 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,000 Speaker 2: man started off apologetic as fuck. 2456 01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:55,400 Speaker 3: So I don't know what was. 2457 01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 2: Saying, but they clearly hit the third rail with Michael 2458 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,400 Speaker 2: Stale lap. 2459 01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:03,040 Speaker 1: And then the second guy talking was still. 2460 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:04,320 Speaker 3: No, still hasn't talked. 2461 01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, still just started got ready to start talking, and 2462 01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:09,120 Speaker 2: I posited on Michael Steele. 2463 01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,559 Speaker 1: But that first guy was the guy who said the thing. 2464 01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,599 Speaker 2: He was okay, so I don't think he said it, 2465 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:19,559 Speaker 2: but he is the executive. He's an executive at Sea Pack, 2466 01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:23,880 Speaker 2: which is a conservative whatever, and a speaker was the 2467 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,400 Speaker 2: one who said it about Michael Steele. That so he 2468 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:29,639 Speaker 2: So this dude came over to make it all good 2469 01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:30,679 Speaker 2: like Michael's baby. 2470 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,680 Speaker 3: I love you. You know we've been yeah cool, you 2471 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 3: know I. 2472 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:37,680 Speaker 4: Problems. 2473 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,559 Speaker 3: I know you about to be madisfucked because we have been. 2474 01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:45,120 Speaker 2: We've been avoiding this conversation for your whole life as 2475 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:46,280 Speaker 2: a Republican politician. 2476 01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,320 Speaker 3: We just do not refer to race when this comes 2477 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:48,679 Speaker 3: to you. 2478 01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,160 Speaker 2: And uh, I know you mad, you're here, right, we 2479 01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:53,880 Speaker 2: wait till you leave, or we do it in the 2480 01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:54,719 Speaker 2: back room. 2481 01:53:55,880 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 10: We're not just talking about this. My concern about what 2482 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 10: was said last night at the dinner was how it 2483 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,640 Speaker 10: reflects on this organization, which I've been apart for a 2484 01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,800 Speaker 10: long time. I've spoken at and have supported, but more 2485 01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:14,120 Speaker 10: broadly what it says about the party that we've both 2486 01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,760 Speaker 10: been active in and involved in, and that concerns me. 2487 01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 10: And I don't know what gave Ian, in his role 2488 01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:25,200 Speaker 10: as communications director, the comfort to think that he could 2489 01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,639 Speaker 10: go before this this body, and i'll put it direct, 2490 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:34,280 Speaker 10: disrespect you as it's as its chairman, disrespect the attendees. 2491 01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,280 Speaker 10: Did he somehow think that this was something are going 2492 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:41,400 Speaker 10: to be acceptable to say? And and that to me 2493 01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,839 Speaker 10: for is the frustration, because look, you and I, as 2494 01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,160 Speaker 10: you said, we've been in the Wars together. I've known 2495 01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,919 Speaker 10: Matt and his family from the very beginning. 2496 01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:51,880 Speaker 2: Doesn't just feel like this is building up to the 2497 01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,080 Speaker 2: biggest butt in no fucking world, like like like he's 2498 01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:55,680 Speaker 2: about to. 2499 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:59,200 Speaker 1: Just be like like, bye, it's not that bad. Wait, 2500 01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,720 Speaker 1: someone says speaker who said the thing was black too. 2501 01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 1: But I thought I saw a picture and the guy 2502 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:06,720 Speaker 1: was he looks like sort of like white or hispanic. 2503 01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't. He definitely wasn't the Patriots. I was 2504 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,880 Speaker 2: not of a black dude that that dude looked like, uh, 2505 01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,640 Speaker 2: like he's playing a keyboard too. Yeah, very long, Jesus 2506 01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:18,360 Speaker 2: hair like white. 2507 01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,960 Speaker 3: It's very weird interesting anyway. 2508 01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,520 Speaker 8: I mean, it ain't about any of that. 2509 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:28,080 Speaker 10: It's about how we as Republicans conservatives fighting the same 2510 01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:32,200 Speaker 10: good fight, as you know, disagreeing at times along the way, 2511 01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:38,360 Speaker 10: can get others in the party beyond this seemingly reliance 2512 01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,200 Speaker 10: to go there to put everything in a racial context 2513 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,480 Speaker 10: and to undermine the very efforts of leaders like yourself 2514 01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:51,040 Speaker 10: and myself, uh, in trying to expand expand this party 2515 01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,480 Speaker 10: and it's reaching the communities of color across the country. 2516 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,920 Speaker 9: Okay, so I guess I would say the first thing 2517 01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:01,280 Speaker 9: and on Candor, he and his colleague at work, and 2518 01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:08,360 Speaker 9: he's my friend, and I love it, and I'm not 2519 01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,920 Speaker 9: going to separate myself from Ian. I think he said 2520 01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:15,000 Speaker 9: some words that the worst people are political enemies could 2521 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:15,920 Speaker 9: take in the worst way. 2522 01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:17,680 Speaker 8: This is radio. 2523 01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,960 Speaker 9: Uh, you don't get to see Ian's skin color in 2524 01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,920 Speaker 9: this radio program. Ian is someone who also understands what 2525 01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:29,120 Speaker 9: it's like to be somebody who has racial challenges in 2526 01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:29,840 Speaker 9: the politics. 2527 01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:31,440 Speaker 8: Timed about by the way, then let me just keep 2528 01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:38,440 Speaker 8: rolling here. That being said, Michael shut Conservative Political Action. 2529 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,400 Speaker 9: Conference, everyone decides what lane they want to be in. Politically, 2530 01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:46,120 Speaker 9: you have been in a lane where you've been rather critical. 2531 01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,000 Speaker 9: Let's be honest. I watch you, I go on MSNBC, 2532 01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:51,920 Speaker 9: I watch you, you watch me. You have been rather 2533 01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:57,000 Speaker 9: critical of some of the more conservative aspects of the 2534 01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:59,200 Speaker 9: Trump phenomenon, and this Trump. 2535 01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:04,120 Speaker 2: You basically have to follow line with whatever Republicans is 2536 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,120 Speaker 2: doing right now. Right now, what they're doing is propping 2537 01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:11,040 Speaker 2: up and they're popping up an overt racist and if 2538 01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,120 Speaker 2: you want to be a part of their party, you 2539 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,160 Speaker 2: have to be You have to not criticize the overt 2540 01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:17,720 Speaker 2: racism of Trump. 2541 01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,840 Speaker 1: Almost directly saying you are not doing your part. Is 2542 01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:25,280 Speaker 1: our tokenized black guy, isn't he almost directly saying you're 2543 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be okay with it so that we show 2544 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:29,440 Speaker 1: that everyone who looks like you is okay with it 2545 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:30,680 Speaker 1: and you're not doing your part. 2546 01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,840 Speaker 2: This is them saying, get back in line. You're out 2547 01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,120 Speaker 2: of pocket. And that's why we talked about you as 2548 01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:40,080 Speaker 2: the black guy as opposed to Michael Steele, our colleague. 2549 01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:40,880 Speaker 3: We respect. 2550 01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:44,200 Speaker 2: Now you're just the black guy until you stop reminding 2551 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,560 Speaker 2: us that you're black by saying you don't like this racism. 2552 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:48,400 Speaker 3: We're promoting. It's amazing, and. 2553 01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:50,600 Speaker 1: It's like, where is my party? It's like, this was 2554 01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,360 Speaker 1: your party, right, this has been your party. I can't 2555 01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:58,000 Speaker 1: believe the Republicans are sexist. Oh what a surprise. I 2556 01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,960 Speaker 1: feel so bad for you, Megan. 2557 01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:04,560 Speaker 9: Kell like, but there's a lot of other things that 2558 01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:07,560 Speaker 9: you might spend time on this radio show talking about. 2559 01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,120 Speaker 8: And I think what Ian. 2560 01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,360 Speaker 9: Was getting to the heart of that was there are 2561 01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:14,920 Speaker 9: people who are critics of some of the things you 2562 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,720 Speaker 9: did as you were chairman, and that there could be 2563 01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,480 Speaker 9: truth to the fact that some people picked you as chairman, 2564 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,400 Speaker 9: because we constantly do this in Republican circles about hey, 2565 01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,360 Speaker 9: here's a new phase for the party, right, and he 2566 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,880 Speaker 9: thinks that that he feels that there are criticisms of 2567 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:32,960 Speaker 9: how you were chairman. 2568 01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:36,400 Speaker 8: Now, can you accept that that could be coming at. 2569 01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,120 Speaker 3: Keep in mind they're talking around it. 2570 01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 2: The criticism, the criticism to do has the same thing 2571 01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,120 Speaker 2: as we talked about earlier about like the comedy. That 2572 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,720 Speaker 2: criticism is you got the job because you're black and 2573 01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:48,879 Speaker 2: not because you're qualified. 2574 01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,280 Speaker 3: Are good? That's it? 2575 01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:53,040 Speaker 2: Now, Keep they're Republicans. They're supposed to be the anti this. 2576 01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,240 Speaker 2: We don't do that. That's what the Democrats do. You 2577 01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:56,800 Speaker 2: always got to And he's saying. 2578 01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,160 Speaker 1: We always do it, which is directly hypocritical to what 2579 01:58:59,200 --> 01:58:59,880 Speaker 1: they claim to. 2580 01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:02,720 Speaker 2: Be right, and they and it's like he's been sold 2581 01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:05,960 Speaker 2: this lie of we see you as an equal, we 2582 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,040 Speaker 2: see you as like we just see your values. 2583 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:09,360 Speaker 3: We don't see race over here. 2584 01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:09,920 Speaker 8: We don't. 2585 01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:13,240 Speaker 3: We don't get it too, identity politics. And then they 2586 01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,120 Speaker 3: turn around and go, well. 2587 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:18,640 Speaker 2: The success you achieved with us was specifically because you're black. 2588 01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:22,680 Speaker 2: We don't actually consider you exceptionally anyway. You never should 2589 01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,280 Speaker 2: have been headed to RNC. It's just because you're a 2590 01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:27,640 Speaker 2: black guy. How can both of those things exist at 2591 01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,200 Speaker 2: the same time. And he's telling them to yea, this. 2592 01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:32,800 Speaker 7: Is yeah, this is like how Ray always said. 2593 01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,680 Speaker 1: It's like, stop making me defend Malania Trump, Stop making 2594 01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:37,640 Speaker 1: me defend Ben Carson. It's like, I hate when this 2595 01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:40,520 Speaker 1: shit happens, because don't make me defend what actually is 2596 01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:44,240 Speaker 1: racist for somebody like Michael Steele, right, you know, it. 2597 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:47,400 Speaker 2: Would absolutely benefit and promote racism if it was in 2598 01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:49,640 Speaker 2: his Uh, he. 2599 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,240 Speaker 1: Sold out his entire community because he gets to be 2600 01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,760 Speaker 1: the special one. And then that is usurped and he's 2601 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:57,080 Speaker 1: treated just like everybody else, and now he wants to 2602 01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,240 Speaker 1: fall back on that same community he's portrayed. 2603 01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:01,960 Speaker 3: Right, it's so oh funny, man, let me play some more. 2604 02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:02,600 Speaker 8: This is. 2605 02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Oh hey, so look it's two white dudes, right, one 2606 02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:11,720 Speaker 2: of them is the host and the other one is 2607 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:12,440 Speaker 2: the guy he's talking to. 2608 02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 3: The host. 2609 02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,080 Speaker 2: Dude put his hand on Mike's shoulder, and Michael Steell 2610 02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:17,560 Speaker 2: was like, get your hand up. 2611 02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,760 Speaker 4: Off of me, right, Oh my god, cause he's mad. 2612 02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:22,480 Speaker 1: But I can't see Karen anymore. 2613 02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:24,840 Speaker 3: I'm coming back, coming back sometimes our computer. 2614 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, I just there were too many women on screen 2615 02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:29,800 Speaker 2: and I was getting very uncomfortable. 2616 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so he kicked me off as a lone male voice. 2617 02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:36,800 Speaker 2: But but yeah, Michael still brushed that dude's hand off 2618 02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:38,080 Speaker 2: of him, like, man, get your hand off. 2619 02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:39,440 Speaker 4: Of me, because what's going on? 2620 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,480 Speaker 3: Who put the flash on? When they took a picture 2621 02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:43,440 Speaker 3: of Michael still. 2622 02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:45,160 Speaker 4: Like what I'm not is your puppet out? No more? 2623 02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh this is so good. 2624 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:50,640 Speaker 8: You see off. 2625 02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry what you say we see let me. 2626 02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:54,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 2627 02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:56,960 Speaker 2: If it allows you to, I will try to share it, 2628 02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,240 Speaker 2: but you know, sometimes it slows down the video when 2629 02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:02,680 Speaker 2: I do this, so I will try to share it 2630 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:03,200 Speaker 2: real quick. 2631 02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:06,160 Speaker 3: And how do I make this bigger? 2632 02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:06,680 Speaker 8: All right? 2633 02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:11,120 Speaker 3: Can you'll see it yet? Oh yeah, okay, all right, 2634 02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:12,040 Speaker 3: let me fly some more. 2635 02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:13,800 Speaker 2: Let me actually go back so I can see the 2636 02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,760 Speaker 2: hand to this part. It's the little things that just. 2637 02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,400 Speaker 3: That make me like the guys. 2638 02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:22,760 Speaker 7: I mean right, this is the Republican to the. 2639 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,760 Speaker 9: Right, and I feel that there are criticisms of how 2640 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,600 Speaker 9: you were chairman. Now can you accept that that could be? 2641 02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,600 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this, no, no, no, no one on the 2642 02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:34,280 Speaker 8: sixth ballot? 2643 02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:37,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, how do you get pictures of your color passed off? 2644 02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:41,920 Speaker 8: All due respect? Come at me? What the hell is 2645 02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:43,800 Speaker 8: that my race have to do with any of that? 2646 02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,240 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, Come at me. Don't 2647 02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:48,080 Speaker 3: come at me. 2648 02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:48,320 Speaker 9: Bro. 2649 02:01:49,680 --> 02:01:52,840 Speaker 1: That guy has had like a white grandkids say come 2650 02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:54,760 Speaker 1: at me, and he's like, this is what the urban 2651 02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:55,520 Speaker 1: youth are saying. 2652 02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,320 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say this with Michael. 2653 02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Grandpa, like, don't player hate. 2654 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:06,560 Speaker 3: Holler at me, Michael, just holler at me right now. 2655 02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,000 Speaker 4: Holler at your boy. 2656 02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:15,440 Speaker 2: It's gonna sound so uncool. Sorry, it's a moment because 2657 02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:19,960 Speaker 2: I'm sharing it. Oh, come at me, all right? 2658 02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:24,160 Speaker 1: Buddy, come at me, Michael, all right, I can color 2659 02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:24,680 Speaker 1: my skin. 2660 02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:26,520 Speaker 8: You have to do with anything you just said. 2661 02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:30,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, I disagree with the direction this president is taking 2662 02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:33,680 Speaker 10: conservatism in this country because I call bs on a 2663 02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:36,880 Speaker 10: lot of it. When you can't stand the ground on Charlottesville, 2664 02:02:37,040 --> 02:02:39,640 Speaker 10: I'm gonna call it out. I have to be authentic 2665 02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:42,360 Speaker 10: and true to myself. You do, all right, So that 2666 02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,400 Speaker 10: has nothing to do with it. It's not just Charlotte. 2667 02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,280 Speaker 10: I remember, you've been a critic. I've been a critic 2668 02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:48,560 Speaker 10: on Polus and a lot of things. So you mean 2669 02:02:48,640 --> 02:02:50,880 Speaker 10: to tell me that as a black conservative, put in 2670 02:02:50,880 --> 02:02:53,080 Speaker 10: in that context. But let alone as a conservative, I 2671 02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:55,200 Speaker 10: can't be critical. As a president you can be. 2672 02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:57,640 Speaker 9: But as you know that, there are a lot of 2673 02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:00,920 Speaker 9: people I think take race out of it if you 2674 02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:04,440 Speaker 9: look at the criticism. But he injected raid. That was 2675 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,640 Speaker 9: the I I would agree with you. So again, those 2676 02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:10,040 Speaker 9: those words that tumbled out of his mouth I believed 2677 02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:11,360 Speaker 9: were unfortunate words. 2678 02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:13,320 Speaker 8: It was stupid. It's not unfortunate. 2679 02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:16,360 Speaker 9: Call it what it is, and he and all it 2680 02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,440 Speaker 9: is stupid to sit there and say that we elected 2681 02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:21,640 Speaker 9: a black man chairman of the party, and that was 2682 02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:22,160 Speaker 9: a mistake. 2683 02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:24,120 Speaker 10: But do you do you know how that sounds to 2684 02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:26,040 Speaker 10: the black community. I know, do you not if that 2685 02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:28,960 Speaker 10: sounds to Americans? And do you know how they didn't 2686 02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,800 Speaker 10: equate that level of stupidity to conservatism. 2687 02:03:32,160 --> 02:03:34,480 Speaker 8: That's that's the objection I have about the moment. I 2688 02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:37,839 Speaker 8: know what he called you. He called you, He felt terrible. 2689 02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,400 Speaker 8: I did him. 2690 02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:42,200 Speaker 9: That doesn't change it, but it's important for people to 2691 02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,800 Speaker 9: know that he realized that the words could come out 2692 02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:45,080 Speaker 9: in a. 2693 02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:47,600 Speaker 8: Way where it looks like and I said that. But 2694 02:03:47,680 --> 02:03:49,720 Speaker 8: don't take the worst out of what he said. You 2695 02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:52,160 Speaker 8: know him, I know, but this is where you need 2696 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:52,880 Speaker 8: to have some grace. 2697 02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:57,280 Speaker 2: Look at what is no he told him, don't take 2698 02:03:57,320 --> 02:03:58,280 Speaker 2: do wors always it? 2699 02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:02,880 Speaker 3: You tell him have some grace. Motherfucker. Y'all fucked up, 2700 02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:03,240 Speaker 3: not me. 2701 02:04:03,760 --> 02:04:06,040 Speaker 2: And he also told him, don't inject race into this 2702 02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,840 Speaker 2: after the dude said the only reason he was in. 2703 02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:11,160 Speaker 3: His position was because he was a black dude, Like, 2704 02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:13,000 Speaker 3: how can I take. 2705 02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:14,840 Speaker 1: It's like, it's your fault for being alive as a 2706 02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:17,320 Speaker 1: black guy. You inject race into it just by being 2707 02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:19,880 Speaker 1: alive as a black person, and I blame you for it? 2708 02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Is essentially what he's saying. 2709 02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,840 Speaker 2: And he spent so much of his career going on 2710 02:04:23,880 --> 02:04:27,280 Speaker 2: Bill Maher and avoiding the idea of Republicans having any 2711 02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:28,320 Speaker 2: racial problem. 2712 02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:31,360 Speaker 3: Like his thing was like, no, black people just don't 2713 02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:31,960 Speaker 3: know about us. 2714 02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm coming out with a mixtape and I'm gonna have 2715 02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:35,800 Speaker 2: some hippie and hop on it and. 2716 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,240 Speaker 3: Black people will like him. I'm gonna be cool, right 2717 02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:38,840 Speaker 3: like it was. 2718 02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:39,200 Speaker 8: It was. 2719 02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:41,560 Speaker 2: His whole thing was just like if black people understood 2720 02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:44,680 Speaker 2: conservatism and they knew that we wanted them here, they 2721 02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,720 Speaker 2: be here and they come to me, and these four 2722 02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:48,880 Speaker 2: fuckers was out. 2723 02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:50,880 Speaker 3: Here mad as shit, like why are you just not 2724 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,160 Speaker 3: telling us? Going on the The only. 2725 02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Way that could even be remotely true is if you 2726 02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:58,120 Speaker 1: had a conservative party. I mean, if it existed in 2727 02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:02,720 Speaker 1: a vacuum that's somehow used it's ideals to back black businesses, 2728 02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:07,080 Speaker 1: black capitalism, that would actually be an inclusive conservative party. 2729 02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:10,960 Speaker 1: It's not that conservative values are inherently anti black. 2730 02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:11,440 Speaker 6: You know. 2731 02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:15,040 Speaker 1: It's like, but then we're so far gone that you 2732 02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:19,200 Speaker 1: cannot separate. Well, you have to take it exist in vacuum. 2733 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:20,640 Speaker 3: You have to take race out of it. 2734 02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:25,240 Speaker 2: Okay, whatever it comes to, whenever it comes to us 2735 02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:29,080 Speaker 2: you know, like backing black people and promoting black businesses, 2736 02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:31,560 Speaker 2: and you gotta take race out of it. We just 2737 02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 2: promote businesses, Okay, most of them happen to be white, 2738 02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:37,440 Speaker 2: and black people are bad at business. 2739 02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, it's just the black people are bad at business. 2740 02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,120 Speaker 1: And that's actually not our fault is the Conservative Party. 2741 02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,160 Speaker 1: So if you could not inject race into it, that 2742 02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:45,720 Speaker 1: would be great. 2743 02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:48,360 Speaker 2: The only time, the only time they're successful is if 2744 02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, someone gives them a business just for being black. 2745 02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:52,040 Speaker 3: That's the only time. 2746 02:05:52,160 --> 02:05:54,480 Speaker 2: But I would never but I would hate for them 2747 02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:56,600 Speaker 2: to start racing to it as black people. 2748 02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:57,920 Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is so. 2749 02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Good, and they actually sustain and you better at their 2750 02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,360 Speaker 1: business year by year just because they are black. 2751 02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:07,320 Speaker 8: Right, you've not been very graceful. 2752 02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:09,800 Speaker 9: You've not been very graceful to the Republicans and the 2753 02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:12,080 Speaker 9: Conservatives in this one and in this room again for 2754 02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:13,600 Speaker 9: a very long period of time. 2755 02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:14,960 Speaker 8: You have here critics. 2756 02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,200 Speaker 11: That's ten years later, he was talking about why Michaels 2757 02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,440 Speaker 11: was elected chairman, elected chairman, what the. 2758 02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:23,160 Speaker 8: President Trump? 2759 02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:27,600 Speaker 9: All I will say is this, Michael Steele, I don't 2760 02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:29,960 Speaker 9: want to be on the show saying this. This is 2761 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:32,880 Speaker 9: not where I want to be this morning, but not everybody. 2762 02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:34,400 Speaker 9: You don't have universal praise. 2763 02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:40,440 Speaker 3: How you were chairman, it was okay, they're right. 2764 02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,800 Speaker 2: The logical fallacy is this, They're saying, you've been critical 2765 02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:47,920 Speaker 2: of Trump, so therefore you should be You should understand 2766 02:06:47,960 --> 02:06:50,200 Speaker 2: that people are going to be critical of you. The 2767 02:06:50,320 --> 02:06:54,280 Speaker 2: problem is they criticize him being elected to RC chairman. 2768 02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:57,960 Speaker 3: That shit happened in two way before Trump. 2769 02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:03,480 Speaker 2: Trump is new, so now you're retroactively litigating my like, uh, 2770 02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:04,640 Speaker 2: you ain't shit either. 2771 02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,160 Speaker 3: You only got your job because you're black, which also. 2772 02:07:07,080 --> 02:07:09,200 Speaker 2: Proves his point of the criticism of Trump that he 2773 02:07:09,320 --> 02:07:12,200 Speaker 2: is taking the party to a more race overt racist 2774 02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:15,680 Speaker 2: level than it was. Oh yeah, because that ten years ago, 2775 02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:19,720 Speaker 2: it would have been very taboo for anyone to directly 2776 02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:22,200 Speaker 2: come out and say this man got his job for 2777 02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,640 Speaker 2: because he's black. Republicans just use coded language or they 2778 02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,000 Speaker 2: don't say it right now because. 2779 02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:30,080 Speaker 1: It's what they want back. They want to be able 2780 02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:32,480 Speaker 1: to speak like that. And these guys keep finding that 2781 02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:35,920 Speaker 1: this magical umbrella that protects Trump does not protect us. 2782 02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:40,560 Speaker 3: Its Trump. Don'understand it. No black people ask I'm a rosa. 2783 02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:45,480 Speaker 9: And that we should before the best person, including a 2784 02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:47,520 Speaker 9: black man or black woman, to be the head of 2785 02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:47,920 Speaker 9: the R and C. 2786 02:07:48,120 --> 02:07:49,840 Speaker 8: I'm with you a thousand all right. 2787 02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:54,400 Speaker 10: So just put this in terms that I think everybody 2788 02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:59,160 Speaker 10: will understand that I've spent forty one years in this party. 2789 02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:04,960 Speaker 10: Forty one all right, I've taken crap you have no 2790 02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:10,920 Speaker 10: idea about, and I've carried this baggage. And for him 2791 02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:14,880 Speaker 10: to stand on that stage and denigrate my service to 2792 02:08:14,960 --> 02:08:17,040 Speaker 10: this party, and for you, as a friend to sit 2793 02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:19,200 Speaker 10: here and sit there and go, well, you've been critical 2794 02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:22,560 Speaker 10: of the party. There's only one word I can say, 2795 02:08:22,600 --> 02:08:23,960 Speaker 10: and I can't say it on this air. 2796 02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:32,760 Speaker 5: Say it, no, Oh God, around you colonize. 2797 02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:36,240 Speaker 3: He should have just barked at him. 2798 02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:38,600 Speaker 2: He should have just there's not enough black people to 2799 02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:41,560 Speaker 2: help him. He would have made better life choices. They 2800 02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:42,800 Speaker 2: could have barked them out of the room. 2801 02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:49,480 Speaker 8: Why can't because the reality? 2802 02:08:49,760 --> 02:08:52,040 Speaker 9: Did you hear what I have heard what you have 2803 02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:54,640 Speaker 9: to say, and it's not acceptable and is accept. 2804 02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:57,680 Speaker 10: I get that, but it's not about that. I know people, Look, 2805 02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:58,520 Speaker 10: what is this about that? 2806 02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:02,920 Speaker 2: I know you think if you think you mad, think 2807 02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:06,760 Speaker 2: that that's such trolling. He did the gaslighting thing where 2808 02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:08,440 Speaker 2: you're like, you take what someone's saying. 2809 02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:10,320 Speaker 1: You really think people are racist? 2810 02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:11,400 Speaker 7: You're so fucked up. 2811 02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,880 Speaker 1: Why didn't he just had a racist thing happened to him? 2812 02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:17,760 Speaker 2: So because this guy said you only got your job 2813 02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:22,000 Speaker 2: because you're black, you think he wants to kill you? 2814 02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Wow? You think he wants to eat your children? I don't. 2815 02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,400 Speaker 2: I think you're being a bit hyperbolic that that thing. 2816 02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:31,320 Speaker 2: You just never said that. I just made it seem 2817 02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:33,640 Speaker 2: like you were saying like he didn't even say anything 2818 02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:35,640 Speaker 2: about I know, y'all hate me because my skin color. 2819 02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:38,120 Speaker 2: He literally just went like, you know what the fuck? 2820 02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:41,920 Speaker 2: You know what word it was, and that motherfucker did 2821 02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:43,840 Speaker 2: not want to hear that that that word, you know 2822 02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:48,560 Speaker 2: what I mean? Oh my god, I think it was racist. 2823 02:09:48,640 --> 02:09:50,760 Speaker 2: I think it was like it was racist and that. 2824 02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:53,880 Speaker 2: And it's funny that racist you can't say the word. 2825 02:09:53,960 --> 02:09:56,720 Speaker 1: That's the curse word for them. 2826 02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,240 Speaker 2: It's the one that they always go the It's the 2827 02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:01,520 Speaker 2: one thing that they like I said about, like, you 2828 02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:04,120 Speaker 2: call people, right, you're gonna call me racist. 2829 02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:06,880 Speaker 3: That's like their inward, you know it is. 2830 02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,160 Speaker 1: They act like it's like the same thing as calling 2831 02:10:09,160 --> 02:10:11,879 Speaker 1: them the N word, because they've reversed that reverse racism 2832 02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:14,000 Speaker 1: even like that's facebook whole thing too. If you say 2833 02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,360 Speaker 1: white men are racist, that will get you banned. 2834 02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:18,680 Speaker 3: Yep, oh right, gods so good? 2835 02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:22,360 Speaker 8: All right, do you really think that? Did I think? 2836 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:25,600 Speaker 8: Do you think Ian hates you because you're skin thinks? 2837 02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,640 Speaker 8: I don't know what? Do you really think that plausible? 2838 02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:32,080 Speaker 10: All I can say is it's a reflection of what 2839 02:10:32,120 --> 02:10:35,160 Speaker 10: he was thinking at the time, all right, and so 2840 02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:41,040 Speaker 10: this but not thing that when people, how did I 2841 02:10:41,120 --> 02:10:42,360 Speaker 10: become the person you're now? 2842 02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:44,800 Speaker 8: That you know what problem? If I. 2843 02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:49,120 Speaker 3: If I'm just talking, you're just talking. 2844 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:52,400 Speaker 11: If Ian had one of them context of his speech 2845 02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:56,520 Speaker 11: to criticize the Michael Steele administration right as the chairman, 2846 02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:59,640 Speaker 11: all right, that's a whole different story. But when you 2847 02:10:59,680 --> 02:11:02,080 Speaker 11: still up there and you say we we only picked 2848 02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:03,960 Speaker 11: him because he was a black man, and boy that 2849 02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:07,640 Speaker 11: didn't work out, that was the problem and it's important 2850 02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:09,960 Speaker 11: that that be recognized. I mean, look, we had this 2851 02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:14,120 Speaker 11: conversation on your panel yesterday. Republicans don't seem to understand 2852 02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:15,720 Speaker 11: there's a lot of folks out there in a lot 2853 02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:16,800 Speaker 11: of communities that could. 2854 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:19,240 Speaker 8: Come your way. But when if I'm a member of 2855 02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,960 Speaker 8: the black community, and I heard what he said last night. 2856 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:23,800 Speaker 8: I agree with you. They hate me. I'm not going 2857 02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:25,120 Speaker 8: to go I agree, I. 2858 02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:27,160 Speaker 9: Agree, But I think Michael also knows that that's not 2859 02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:28,560 Speaker 9: where we that's not where our heart is. 2860 02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:29,400 Speaker 8: But that's what he said. 2861 02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:32,440 Speaker 1: Let me tell you that the heart, it's always about 2862 02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:35,280 Speaker 1: the heart and never the Our heart is not racist, 2863 02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:37,200 Speaker 1: even as we own slaves Loki. 2864 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:38,600 Speaker 3: He also did this other thing. 2865 02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:42,360 Speaker 2: When the white dude explained what Michael Steele had already said, 2866 02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:43,760 Speaker 2: he went, well, yeah, I hear. 2867 02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:44,720 Speaker 3: I agree with that. 2868 02:11:45,040 --> 02:11:48,240 Speaker 2: I understand that Michael Steele was just saying the same shit. 2869 02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:50,520 Speaker 2: Come on, it wasn't like Michael Steele. 2870 02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:53,800 Speaker 1: Someone just said, like, he's respectfully listening to this white 2871 02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:55,880 Speaker 1: guy tell him that what happened was racist, and now 2872 02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:58,839 Speaker 1: he accepts it. But with Michael still talking, he's like, Michael, 2873 02:11:58,920 --> 02:12:02,440 Speaker 1: how dare you? You're a asshole now because you're making 2874 02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Ian's life a living hell. 2875 02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:09,240 Speaker 2: Michael still just literally said this shit makes black the 2876 02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:11,480 Speaker 2: black community look at us like we're stupid. 2877 02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,600 Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna say the other word. 2878 02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:16,880 Speaker 2: The other dude comes in and says, when black people 2879 02:12:16,920 --> 02:12:19,760 Speaker 2: see this, it makes that community think we're racist. 2880 02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:21,760 Speaker 3: And Buddy was like, I hear you and I agree. 2881 02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:24,440 Speaker 7: What what that. 2882 02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:27,360 Speaker 3: Just happened within this fan of two minutes, Like he's 2883 02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:31,160 Speaker 3: what the fuck? Oh my god, it's so mad and we'll. 2884 02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:32,200 Speaker 7: Never see it in themselves. 2885 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,360 Speaker 1: It's the same thing in a boardroom, like black guy 2886 02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:37,360 Speaker 1: has an idea, a woman has an idea. They're just like, 2887 02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't like it, but I'm gonna do the same 2888 02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,520 Speaker 1: thing right now, Like they never. 2889 02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:45,480 Speaker 2: What if we did the thing that woman just said, 2890 02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,760 Speaker 2: you know what? And now that you say it, I 2891 02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:50,480 Speaker 2: think it's smart. 2892 02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:51,480 Speaker 7: And you the same way. 2893 02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Like it's like he's talking over him, and then as 2894 02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,480 Speaker 1: soon as the white guy on the web starts talking, 2895 02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:56,240 Speaker 1: he shuts up. 2896 02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 2897 02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,320 Speaker 2: He put his hand on that man and said, but 2898 02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:01,680 Speaker 2: do you think he hates you because of your skin? 2899 02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:06,080 Speaker 1: Guys, do you think do you think that's Michael Alsow? 2900 02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:09,560 Speaker 2: Michael Michael said the only thing that we that all 2901 02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:10,240 Speaker 2: black people. 2902 02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:11,960 Speaker 3: Can say in the situation. I don't know what the 2903 02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,320 Speaker 3: fuck that motherfucker thinks. Like how you gonna ask him? 2904 02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:16,120 Speaker 3: Don't ask me. 2905 02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't All I know is he says some racist 2906 02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:22,200 Speaker 2: ship last night. That's the most I know about this, dude, 2907 02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:24,040 Speaker 2: Stop tying me up in your bullshit. 2908 02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:28,920 Speaker 8: Why do you think? I'm here? 2909 02:13:29,560 --> 02:13:32,360 Speaker 10: And I appreciate you being here, but I don't want 2910 02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:36,600 Speaker 10: to leave this on the table without addressing it. I'm 2911 02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:39,320 Speaker 10: not sitting here again saying people can't criticize me for 2912 02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:41,480 Speaker 10: how I let the RNC. I get criticized for a 2913 02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:44,240 Speaker 10: lot of stuff. That's not what it's about. You criticized 2914 02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:47,760 Speaker 10: me because I'm black. That's a whole different conversation. You 2915 02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,160 Speaker 10: stand up on the stand, you stand up on the stage, 2916 02:13:50,200 --> 02:13:52,840 Speaker 10: and you go, well, we only did this because he's black. 2917 02:13:53,200 --> 02:13:55,240 Speaker 10: That's like saying to me only that's like saying to me, 2918 02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:55,720 Speaker 10: I only got in. 2919 02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:01,760 Speaker 8: Just say, remember, Michael, I still love you. 2920 02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:04,360 Speaker 3: I can't understand why you might not love me, but 2921 02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm one. 2922 02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I understand why you might not love me. 2923 02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:14,480 Speaker 3: Jump Also, like, why is the serve music always the wack? 2924 02:14:14,640 --> 02:14:14,680 Speaker 5: Is? 2925 02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:15,600 Speaker 4: Ain't it wack? 2926 02:14:15,680 --> 02:14:18,120 Speaker 3: Don't never have no beats? 2927 02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:20,520 Speaker 4: That song was so act Yeah, always on the ones 2928 02:14:20,560 --> 02:14:21,040 Speaker 4: and threes? 2929 02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:26,680 Speaker 3: Back for more racism in thirty seconds. 2930 02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:33,440 Speaker 5: Anyway, Carey that this one is hard. 2931 02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:36,400 Speaker 4: It's real. I'm gonna give it. 2932 02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:37,920 Speaker 1: A twenty five. 2933 02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:40,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna give it a twenty five yeah, because 2934 02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm not that fucked with, because maybe because I'm a 2935 02:14:45,080 --> 02:14:46,960 Speaker 5: Nigger and I could have told you black ass not 2936 02:14:47,160 --> 02:14:50,120 Speaker 5: not though go over there in the first place. And 2937 02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:53,200 Speaker 5: now you know, you have come to the light, which 2938 02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:56,480 Speaker 5: is cool, you are woke. But I'm not that fucked 2939 02:14:56,480 --> 02:14:59,120 Speaker 5: with because I already knew today was racist. He's not 2940 02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:00,800 Speaker 5: a surprise that he come to the light or he 2941 02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:02,120 Speaker 5: just came to the flash. 2942 02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:04,839 Speaker 4: I don't know the light, the flash. Something happened. 2943 02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:06,240 Speaker 3: I thought about you. 2944 02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the twenty five as well, because 2945 02:15:12,520 --> 02:15:15,320 Speaker 1: it is this sort of like, you know, you thought 2946 02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:17,920 Speaker 1: you could be the special one that they respect, and 2947 02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:20,920 Speaker 1: that it's actually how your fellow black people behave and 2948 02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:23,240 Speaker 1: you don't behave like them, and you were never gonna 2949 02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:26,760 Speaker 1: be disrespected like this. So it's like, you know, I 2950 02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:30,600 Speaker 1: it's good that within that he is like standing up 2951 02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:32,920 Speaker 1: for himself and it was a fucked up thing, But 2952 02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:34,320 Speaker 1: twenty five. 2953 02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:36,040 Speaker 3: Twenty five, I'm gonna give it zero. 2954 02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:39,840 Speaker 2: I have been waiting for this moment, ah for all 2955 02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:41,960 Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this moment for as long as 2956 02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:43,760 Speaker 2: he's been the chair. 2957 02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:47,200 Speaker 5: He's been saying some stuff and people haven't forgot about 2958 02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:48,120 Speaker 5: the bullshit that you been. 2959 02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:49,040 Speaker 4: That's when I used to. 2960 02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:52,360 Speaker 2: Back when I used to watch the RNC shit I've been, 2961 02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:54,600 Speaker 2: I was not RNC shit back when I used to 2962 02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:57,800 Speaker 2: watch Bill Maher and he was like the black conservative 2963 02:15:57,800 --> 02:15:59,800 Speaker 2: that got to go on there and he would always 2964 02:15:59,840 --> 02:16:03,160 Speaker 2: try to like he would basically gas like Black America, like, nah, 2965 02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:03,680 Speaker 2: it's just. 2966 02:16:03,560 --> 02:16:04,240 Speaker 3: These white people. 2967 02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:04,560 Speaker 8: Cool. 2968 02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:07,560 Speaker 2: You just gotta understand. And I'm like, I do understand. 2969 02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:10,080 Speaker 2: They're racists and they don't really like your black ass either. 2970 02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:14,240 Speaker 2: They just tolerating you until it's inconvenient. And now they've 2971 02:16:14,360 --> 02:16:18,280 Speaker 2: really yeah, they've gone to the fullest extent of like 2972 02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:21,480 Speaker 2: overt like we can now say how we really always 2973 02:16:21,480 --> 02:16:23,680 Speaker 2: felt about you. And I'm like, this is how I 2974 02:16:23,720 --> 02:16:26,080 Speaker 2: always knew they felt about you. And every black person 2975 02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:29,520 Speaker 2: that ever saw you talk knew this and I And 2976 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:32,360 Speaker 2: the part that makes me feel zero percent fuck with 2977 02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:35,480 Speaker 2: is that I feel like, give it a week and 2978 02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:38,480 Speaker 2: he'll be right back over there. Because he's made his 2979 02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:41,680 Speaker 2: living doing that shit for forty one years. He can't 2980 02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:44,680 Speaker 2: just erase his life's work and he can't just start 2981 02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:46,680 Speaker 2: like if he were to try to do something like 2982 02:16:47,440 --> 02:16:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm pro black now, and I don't. 2983 02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:50,560 Speaker 3: Like this racism over here. 2984 02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:52,840 Speaker 2: We would all laugh at him because it's like, dog, 2985 02:16:53,080 --> 02:16:55,080 Speaker 2: you're promoted that racism. 2986 02:16:55,120 --> 02:16:56,360 Speaker 3: You were part of that shit. 2987 02:16:56,920 --> 02:17:00,640 Speaker 2: So you can't make yourself right, You can't make a 2988 02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:03,680 Speaker 2: living over over to the other side. You gotta go 2989 02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:07,560 Speaker 2: back over there. That's your homeboys. So yeah, that major 2990 02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:09,400 Speaker 2: bed now, Lion, the chickens come home on the russe, 2991 02:17:09,440 --> 02:17:09,840 Speaker 2: all that shit. 2992 02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Zero, I don't feel with you. 2993 02:17:11,680 --> 02:17:13,600 Speaker 1: Gotta be the guy that every time you walk into 2994 02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the room now they stop whispering and they just stare 2995 02:17:15,800 --> 02:17:16,439 Speaker 1: at you. 2996 02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Yep, so good. All right, guys, Let's do some guests 2997 02:17:19,879 --> 02:17:21,280 Speaker 2: the race. Where's my guest? 2998 02:17:21,320 --> 02:17:24,840 Speaker 3: The race song? Here we go now, that is time 2999 02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:25,760 Speaker 3: for some guests. 3000 02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:29,720 Speaker 2: The Rays last right, It's guests the race time. 3001 02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:33,400 Speaker 3: Now, that is time for some guests. 3002 02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:37,320 Speaker 5: The Rays last right, This guest the race time. 3003 02:17:39,240 --> 02:17:40,960 Speaker 3: That's right, it's time for guess. 3004 02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:45,280 Speaker 2: The number one game show going across off podcast Land. 3005 02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:46,960 Speaker 2: We read the play news art Smallow on the glow 3006 02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:50,160 Speaker 2: and we are our contestants today. Marcia from Messandre and 3007 02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:53,880 Speaker 2: Marshall and Ray Podcast to guests, The Rays and Caring 3008 02:17:53,879 --> 02:17:56,840 Speaker 2: and the chat replay along and they are racist. All right, 3009 02:17:56,879 --> 02:18:00,960 Speaker 2: here we go, guys. Two people were arrest it and 3010 02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:03,720 Speaker 2: a chainsaw fight at an Akron home. 3011 02:18:04,640 --> 02:18:11,840 Speaker 4: Chainsaw a chainsaw Akron. Like the chainsaw? Oh like the 3012 02:18:11,920 --> 02:18:12,959 Speaker 4: chainsaw massacre? 3013 02:18:13,320 --> 02:18:18,040 Speaker 3: Yes, white, I guess you could say that seems mm hmm. 3014 02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:19,840 Speaker 3: I got I got the. 3015 02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:23,560 Speaker 2: I got the details. Now, I guess you could say 3016 02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:25,000 Speaker 2: this fight was off the chain. 3017 02:18:30,959 --> 02:18:32,000 Speaker 7: What if I just hang up? 3018 02:18:34,600 --> 02:18:39,800 Speaker 5: You know, No you turn around and say tyrone drinkers 3019 02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:40,800 Speaker 5: was walking around with. 3020 02:18:40,800 --> 02:18:43,360 Speaker 4: A chainsaw, you know, then I might change my mind. 3021 02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:45,920 Speaker 2: Two people were arrested and a man is recovering after 3022 02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:48,560 Speaker 2: a fight involving a chainsaw at a home and Akron 3023 02:18:48,760 --> 02:18:52,360 Speaker 2: officers responded to Beard the Street near Enman Street shortly 3024 02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:56,480 Speaker 2: after nine pm Tuesday for a fight with injuries. When 3025 02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:59,080 Speaker 2: they arrived, they found the fifty two year old victim 3026 02:18:59,080 --> 02:19:00,879 Speaker 2: on the couch in the living room covered in blood. 3027 02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:04,920 Speaker 2: The victim told police his former roommate, William Mitchell, and 3028 02:19:04,959 --> 02:19:09,640 Speaker 2: his roommate's girlfriend, Aliah Whitley wilely came over and started 3029 02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:11,039 Speaker 2: to argue about old money. 3030 02:19:11,440 --> 02:19:12,959 Speaker 3: According to the police. 3031 02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:15,480 Speaker 2: The victim and Mitchell began physically fighting and fell to 3032 02:19:15,520 --> 02:19:18,240 Speaker 2: the floor. Next to a chainsaw that was just sitting in. 3033 02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:18,680 Speaker 3: The living room. 3034 02:19:20,400 --> 02:19:22,560 Speaker 4: The chainsaw just mining his business. 3035 02:19:23,800 --> 02:19:25,440 Speaker 3: Is the kind of house where there's a chainsaw sitting 3036 02:19:25,440 --> 02:19:26,080 Speaker 3: in the living room. Okay. 3037 02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:29,119 Speaker 2: After a struggle, Mitchell picked up the saw and hit 3038 02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:31,800 Speaker 2: the victim with the chainsaw blades. The victim was cut 3039 02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:33,320 Speaker 2: on the hands and arms and tried to flee out 3040 02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:35,960 Speaker 2: the front door. He fell, so Mitchell and Wilely dragged 3041 02:19:36,040 --> 02:19:41,000 Speaker 2: him back into the house. Oh yeah, Akron police said. 3042 02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:43,200 Speaker 2: To fight continue, with Wiley hitting the victim in his 3043 02:19:43,280 --> 02:19:45,560 Speaker 2: back and legs with the saw. Finally, the victim broke 3044 02:19:45,600 --> 02:19:47,400 Speaker 2: free and ran next door for help, with Mitchell and 3045 02:19:47,440 --> 02:19:50,279 Speaker 2: Wilely fled to see before the officers arrived. The victim 3046 02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:53,199 Speaker 2: was taken to the Akron City Hospital with serious injuries 3047 02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:58,720 Speaker 2: with officer. While officers were there, the suspects came into 3048 02:19:58,760 --> 02:20:01,640 Speaker 2: the emergency room for a cut to Mitchell's hand. 3049 02:20:02,120 --> 02:20:04,840 Speaker 4: Oh so they went to the merger room too, right, and. 3050 02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:08,160 Speaker 2: Then Mitchell thirty two and Wiley twenty three were arrested. 3051 02:20:08,400 --> 02:20:11,000 Speaker 2: Tried to aggravate the burglary and colonius assault and take 3052 02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:11,879 Speaker 2: it to the county jail. 3053 02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:14,080 Speaker 4: I know that's it. The Merger's room and the chaos. 3054 02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:15,600 Speaker 4: That's the person who committed the grime. 3055 02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Guess the race of guess the race of William Mitchell 3056 02:20:18,760 --> 02:20:19,760 Speaker 2: and the Leah Wiley care. 3057 02:20:20,040 --> 02:20:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm going I'm changing my white to black? 3058 02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:23,320 Speaker 8: All right? 3059 02:20:23,400 --> 02:20:24,119 Speaker 3: What about you, mam? 3060 02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's all Rightlet's check the chat room 3061 02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:31,879 Speaker 2: and see what they believe. Chain of fools white only 3062 02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:34,400 Speaker 2: a good guy with a chain, sawt and stove, a 3063 02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:38,200 Speaker 2: bag guy with a chase, all right, the black Paul Bunyon. 3064 02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually this one, Berson says, Matthew White's that could 3065 02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:43,240 Speaker 1: also be it too. It could be some tweaker and 3066 02:20:43,240 --> 02:20:45,680 Speaker 1: meth had white people too, that's true. 3067 02:20:45,800 --> 02:20:47,640 Speaker 3: Stay your crazy ass away from me. 3068 02:20:47,760 --> 02:20:51,160 Speaker 2: White cut up their lebron jerseys after the decision. 3069 02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:53,520 Speaker 3: That's definitely why so white. He's mad. 3070 02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:55,560 Speaker 2: There are no white people in black panther. There are 3071 02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:56,960 Speaker 2: four white people in black panthers. 3072 02:20:56,959 --> 02:21:01,039 Speaker 3: I count it chains old money. 3073 02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:04,199 Speaker 2: Come on, buddy, negroes, don't do this ship white chainsaw 3074 02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:08,040 Speaker 2: of foods black. I feel like they're they're Matthew whites 3075 02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:09,360 Speaker 2: and brownie flannel white. 3076 02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:13,880 Speaker 3: The correct answer is, and Karen and Marshall, you got 3077 02:21:13,879 --> 02:21:14,800 Speaker 3: it right. They were black. 3078 02:21:18,080 --> 02:21:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 3079 02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:25,560 Speaker 2: Now, many people in the chat room missed it, and 3080 02:21:25,600 --> 02:21:39,280 Speaker 2: I have to play the boods for you guys. Yep, 3081 02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:41,920 Speaker 2: y'all's racism was off. I'll show you that picture. 3082 02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:45,400 Speaker 3: It's kind of dark. Let me see if I can 3083 02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:49,080 Speaker 3: make it bigger. What can I do? But they are 3084 02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:51,360 Speaker 3: both black though, Is it showing on the chat? Yeah? 3085 02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, they both Oh yeah, they're both black. 3086 02:21:53,720 --> 02:21:54,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 3087 02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Like she looks thrilled to have just. 3088 02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,720 Speaker 2: She like she's been waiting to change that dude her 3089 02:22:00,920 --> 02:22:07,040 Speaker 2: entire life, right, like, finally get there the part where 3090 02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:09,240 Speaker 2: they beat his ass and dragged him back in there though, 3091 02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:10,520 Speaker 2: so fucked up? 3092 02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:13,119 Speaker 3: Wow, Like, I don't want to ever make anyone that. 3093 02:22:13,160 --> 02:22:16,119 Speaker 4: Mad for me, even ain't getting bought all. 3094 02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:17,320 Speaker 3: Right, let's do another one, guys. 3095 02:22:18,400 --> 02:22:21,520 Speaker 2: A woman starts a massive fire after losing her home 3096 02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:22,680 Speaker 2: in a divorced settlement. 3097 02:22:23,120 --> 02:22:26,600 Speaker 5: Oh shit, mm hmmm, I can't have this home, okay, 3098 02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:28,800 Speaker 5: nobody had its. 3099 02:22:30,080 --> 02:22:32,920 Speaker 3: Get a half? Yeah, you get a half of uh 3100 02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:36,360 Speaker 3: you half the ashes come okay. 3101 02:22:36,959 --> 02:22:40,040 Speaker 2: Paulding County woman set fire to her house after losing 3102 02:22:40,080 --> 02:22:42,600 Speaker 2: it to her husband in a divorce around three twenty 3103 02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:47,320 Speaker 2: five am on Sunday. Adrian saturly set the home of 3104 02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:51,920 Speaker 2: blaze in the kitchen. The fire prompted a statewide investigation 3105 02:22:52,080 --> 02:22:56,680 Speaker 2: after the flame spread to nineteen other nearby homes, in 3106 02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:59,480 Speaker 2: which four were destroyed, two or less significantly damaged, and 3107 02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:01,279 Speaker 2: others in various degrees. 3108 02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:04,640 Speaker 3: Of heat and smoke damage. Good God, if you're gonna burn. 3109 02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:09,680 Speaker 2: The house, wow, Okay, burn everybody ship down. 3110 02:23:10,320 --> 02:23:11,920 Speaker 4: The whole motherfuckering neighborhood. 3111 02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:15,080 Speaker 3: She want to make sure her ship burned. Oh so yeah, 3112 02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:16,600 Speaker 3: the forty two. 3113 02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:20,920 Speaker 2: Year olds, uh took a stack of power mattresses into 3114 02:23:20,959 --> 02:23:24,680 Speaker 2: the kitchen and started the fire. Where do you find 3115 02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:28,120 Speaker 2: a stack of power mattresses that? I don't even know 3116 02:23:28,120 --> 02:23:28,600 Speaker 2: where you get that? 3117 02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:29,720 Speaker 7: Kyle mattresses? 3118 02:23:29,879 --> 02:23:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we they're already in the house on the floor. 3119 02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:35,400 Speaker 1: It's like if you have like a heroine house. 3120 02:23:35,600 --> 02:23:39,400 Speaker 2: Like yeah, and like why is why are your mattresses 3121 02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:40,160 Speaker 2: so flamble? 3122 02:23:40,560 --> 02:23:42,760 Speaker 3: All mattresses just flammable or just hers? 3123 02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they made a lot of I think mattresses are 3124 02:23:45,920 --> 02:23:46,879 Speaker 1: always pretty. 3125 02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:50,920 Speaker 4: Flammable cotton material and stuff. Oh and you know where 3126 02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:52,680 Speaker 4: she got them from? Fight Out? But in the game 3127 02:23:53,000 --> 02:23:55,520 Speaker 4: fight Out, the game, you know they have to have 3128 02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:56,080 Speaker 4: the junk. 3129 02:23:55,920 --> 02:24:03,360 Speaker 3: Yard oh, mattresses. Uh yeah, we believe she lit them all. 3130 02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:05,160 Speaker 3: We believe she lit them on fire. 3131 02:24:05,240 --> 02:24:07,199 Speaker 2: She put not only herself and her neighbors and first 3132 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:12,000 Speaker 2: responders in jeopardy. Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens estimated to act 3133 02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:14,080 Speaker 2: caused more than a million dollars in damages. 3134 02:24:14,200 --> 02:24:14,760 Speaker 4: Good God. 3135 02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:17,720 Speaker 2: After starting the fire, Saturday took her two cats, walked 3136 02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,840 Speaker 2: to a nearby walmart, called nine one one, and directed 3137 02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:25,640 Speaker 2: dispatchers to her neighborhood. She faces fourteen counts of first 3138 02:24:25,640 --> 02:24:28,039 Speaker 2: degree arson and three counds of aggravated animal cruelty. 3139 02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:31,080 Speaker 3: Two dogs and a cat died as a result of 3140 02:24:31,080 --> 02:24:31,440 Speaker 3: the fire. 3141 02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:33,800 Speaker 7: That really sad. 3142 02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:36,760 Speaker 1: At least no humans died, but that's still really sad. 3143 02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:39,320 Speaker 3: Those ones have been his cats and dogs. 3144 02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to try. 3145 02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:44,360 Speaker 1: She took her cat took Yeah, she's like five fraid 3146 02:24:44,480 --> 02:24:46,520 Speaker 1: or whatever fought. 3147 02:24:47,480 --> 02:24:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't care about y'all. 3148 02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:51,960 Speaker 2: Anyway, Saturday could receive up to twenty years in prison 3149 02:24:52,000 --> 02:24:52,720 Speaker 2: for each count. 3150 02:24:53,040 --> 02:25:01,160 Speaker 3: Guess the race caring of Adrian Saturday white with this one, 3151 02:25:01,240 --> 02:25:01,959 Speaker 3: all right, Marcia? 3152 02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:06,040 Speaker 1: If she's white with the animals and the she's like 3153 02:25:06,200 --> 02:25:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna get her cats out of there. 3154 02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:08,960 Speaker 7: I think she's probably white. 3155 02:25:09,040 --> 02:25:11,480 Speaker 2: Let's check the chatroom, steal what they believe stole the 3156 02:25:11,560 --> 02:25:14,039 Speaker 2: idea from Bernadette Angela Bassett. 3157 02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:16,600 Speaker 3: And waiting ext hell, like they steal everything white. She 3158 02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:17,640 Speaker 3: was waiting to extail. 3159 02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:19,720 Speaker 2: She was waiting next hell and not gonna cry no 3160 02:25:19,760 --> 02:25:23,800 Speaker 2: more black. Even their fire gentrifies the whole neighborhood white. 3161 02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:27,240 Speaker 2: She's not gonna cry white. The white left eye all 3162 02:25:27,560 --> 02:25:31,240 Speaker 2: save the cat's white. Just finished watching Waiting Extail and said, 3163 02:25:31,360 --> 02:25:33,360 Speaker 2: that's a great idea, white black women. 3164 02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:35,560 Speaker 3: Just take the house and move the family in. This 3165 02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:36,600 Speaker 3: is some white mess here. 3166 02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:39,279 Speaker 2: Let me help ruin your life to fifty three percent 3167 02:25:39,680 --> 02:25:42,240 Speaker 2: casts eagle white, two cats and a dog living inside 3168 02:25:42,280 --> 02:25:42,560 Speaker 2: the house. 3169 02:25:42,560 --> 02:25:42,800 Speaker 3: White. 3170 02:25:42,879 --> 02:25:47,119 Speaker 2: Colonizer was listening to TLC and was like, you know what, black, 3171 02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:49,840 Speaker 2: she's the only responsible for fifty three percent of that fire. 3172 02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:55,039 Speaker 2: So everybody went white except for one person who went black. 3173 02:25:55,680 --> 02:25:57,000 Speaker 4: As I saw it was. 3174 02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Like court says that, like to a black woman, they're 3175 02:25:59,840 --> 02:26:02,280 Speaker 1: like taking your house. She's like, oh well, I'm just 3176 02:26:02,280 --> 02:26:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna move ten people in really quick, So good luck 3177 02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:05,039 Speaker 1: with that. 3178 02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Water's right, bitch, what a correct answer is? Actually she 3179 02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:12,119 Speaker 2: was black all. 3180 02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:18,199 Speaker 4: You miss, I know recount. 3181 02:26:25,360 --> 02:26:29,240 Speaker 1: And one because still probably blame this on white culture's influence. 3182 02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:34,320 Speaker 3: I guess she was. She was like kill Marga with 3183 02:26:34,360 --> 02:26:35,200 Speaker 3: them flowers. 3184 02:26:35,520 --> 02:26:41,840 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she's she's very black, and so apparently black 3185 02:26:41,879 --> 02:26:43,000 Speaker 5: people love animals too. 3186 02:26:44,360 --> 02:26:46,840 Speaker 3: They love they love two out of five animals they love. 3187 02:26:46,879 --> 02:26:49,080 Speaker 4: Two out of five animals did not save all that. 3188 02:26:50,240 --> 02:26:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a white all animals would have been saying, 3189 02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:54,600 Speaker 2: one person, one person did get it right. 3190 02:26:54,720 --> 02:26:55,960 Speaker 3: Let me give them that class. 3191 02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:04,000 Speaker 2: You earned a golf clap, my friend, because I don't 3192 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:06,400 Speaker 2: know how to fuck you got that. 3193 02:27:05,360 --> 02:27:09,000 Speaker 3: I would have went white time. 3194 02:27:09,959 --> 02:27:10,080 Speaker 8: Uh. 3195 02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:13,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, she's she's like she fell on some rough times, guys. 3196 02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean burning down the house then left. 3197 02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:16,000 Speaker 5: I do that. 3198 02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:19,760 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, she burned out Andre Robson's house started from 3199 02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:20,080 Speaker 2: the tub. 3200 02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:22,360 Speaker 1: She was a pioneer woman. 3201 02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:23,000 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. 3202 02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:26,480 Speaker 3: And you know what, I also don't want no scrubs, 3203 02:27:27,120 --> 02:27:29,000 Speaker 3: none of them. Uh. 3204 02:27:29,560 --> 02:27:31,240 Speaker 4: In fact, you won't have nothing to scrub. 3205 02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:37,680 Speaker 2: You will be chasing some waterfalls. After the fire gets. 3206 02:27:37,480 --> 02:27:41,520 Speaker 1: A hold of your house, you find some waterfalls. 3207 02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm about to creep all of your house and burn. 3208 02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:46,600 Speaker 4: I just thought of. 3209 02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:49,080 Speaker 1: Come at me again and started laughing in my head 3210 02:27:49,879 --> 02:27:50,440 Speaker 1: come at me. 3211 02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:55,560 Speaker 2: You think you think she called the fire She called 3212 02:27:55,560 --> 02:27:57,920 Speaker 2: the fire department because it be a red light special. 3213 02:27:58,560 --> 02:28:02,520 Speaker 1: Ah right, all right, we'll talk to you guys later. 3214 02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:05,199 Speaker 3: Fine, we got so many more of these. 3215 02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:09,080 Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's go to the bonus round. All right, 3216 02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:22,680 Speaker 2: double up and the race, double up, all and the race. 3217 02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:25,840 Speaker 3: That's right, double the points, double race and a bonus round. 3218 02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:28,560 Speaker 2: I guess the race so far Caring and marsh are 3219 02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:33,160 Speaker 2: tide one in one, yes, but will they have a 3220 02:28:33,320 --> 02:28:36,280 Speaker 2: tie in the bonus round? Let's just see, all right, 3221 02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:39,440 Speaker 2: it's worth double the racism, double the points. 3222 02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:39,959 Speaker 3: Right. 3223 02:28:40,600 --> 02:28:43,280 Speaker 2: A man was arrested for setting booby traps on a 3224 02:28:43,360 --> 02:28:44,800 Speaker 2: local snowmobile trail. 3225 02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:48,120 Speaker 3: Oh a snow building. 3226 02:28:48,320 --> 02:28:51,560 Speaker 2: Snowmobiling is already a dangerous sport, but there could be 3227 02:28:51,640 --> 02:28:52,760 Speaker 2: someone out there trying to. 3228 02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:54,279 Speaker 3: Make your ride more hazardous. 3229 02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:58,600 Speaker 2: Snowmobile trails are maintained by clubs across the state that 3230 02:28:59,200 --> 02:29:02,240 Speaker 2: they'll removed in tree branches or other debris on the past, 3231 02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:05,160 Speaker 2: but normally they wouldn't think to have a lookout for 3232 02:29:05,360 --> 02:29:11,000 Speaker 2: booby traps as well. Mark Bone, Still, what a name 3233 02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:15,760 Speaker 2: has been? SNOWI yeah, he's been snowball It sounds like 3234 02:29:15,760 --> 02:29:16,680 Speaker 2: a porn name, doesn't. 3235 02:29:16,959 --> 02:29:19,680 Speaker 3: Yes, Mark Bone Still last names. 3236 02:29:19,440 --> 02:29:23,199 Speaker 1: Come from former professions. That's kind of creepy. Bone steal. 3237 02:29:24,320 --> 02:29:25,160 Speaker 1: He stole bones. 3238 02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:26,440 Speaker 7: His granddaddy stole bones. 3239 02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:29,560 Speaker 2: He worked in a steel factory. He worked in a 3240 02:29:29,600 --> 02:29:33,320 Speaker 2: steel factory, and he broke his bag. But yeah, he's 3241 02:29:33,360 --> 02:29:35,680 Speaker 2: a snowmobiler ever since he was about nine years old. 3242 02:29:35,680 --> 02:29:38,240 Speaker 2: But he still gets worried about potential hazards anytime he 3243 02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:39,160 Speaker 2: goes out for a ride. 3244 02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:41,400 Speaker 3: He's a club president of the Black River Raiders. 3245 02:29:41,680 --> 02:29:45,360 Speaker 2: Debris in trails, other snowmobil is not riding to the right, 3246 02:29:45,440 --> 02:29:48,160 Speaker 2: you know, excessive speed, Bone still said. But now he 3247 02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:52,280 Speaker 2: also thinks about booby traps. Though he's never come across one, 3248 02:29:52,320 --> 02:29:55,039 Speaker 2: he's heard of others who have be it. If they 3249 02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:57,840 Speaker 2: put on put it low enough where they can catch 3250 02:29:57,879 --> 02:30:00,600 Speaker 2: the skis the lower part of the snowmobile, or if 3251 02:30:00,640 --> 02:30:02,920 Speaker 2: they put it up high enough where they catch somebody 3252 02:30:02,920 --> 02:30:05,760 Speaker 2: in the chest of their head, you know, you could 3253 02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:07,600 Speaker 2: you could definitely die from it. 3254 02:30:07,920 --> 02:30:10,279 Speaker 7: Right In fact, in. 3255 02:30:10,160 --> 02:30:12,480 Speaker 3: Fact, Columbia County Sheriffs. 3256 02:30:13,480 --> 02:30:16,440 Speaker 2: Columbia County Sheriff's Office just arrested thirty one year old 3257 02:30:16,600 --> 02:30:20,680 Speaker 2: Jason Holly that's who's race or guessing for placing one 3258 02:30:20,680 --> 02:30:23,520 Speaker 2: of his neighbors placing a booby trap on one of his. 3259 02:30:23,400 --> 02:30:24,640 Speaker 3: Neighbors trails last week. 3260 02:30:25,400 --> 02:30:27,880 Speaker 2: The DA says he placed a pipe on the trail 3261 02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:32,240 Speaker 2: and strong a wire connecting two trees, one which he 3262 02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:35,480 Speaker 2: cuts so that if the snowmobiler came through, it'd fall 3263 02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:40,440 Speaker 2: on top of them. Oh so, not only were you 3264 02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:42,880 Speaker 2: going to run into the wire on the tree that 3265 02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:45,520 Speaker 2: would potentially knock you off the snowmobil and hurt you, 3266 02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:48,760 Speaker 2: then the tree would fall and fall on top of you, 3267 02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:51,279 Speaker 2: Holly allegedly. 3268 02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:54,360 Speaker 8: Rambo. 3269 02:30:55,200 --> 02:31:00,040 Speaker 2: Holly alleged told the deputy shriffs it's like when the 3270 02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:03,520 Speaker 2: Star Wars was at the Ewok planet and they and 3271 02:31:03,560 --> 02:31:05,480 Speaker 2: they didn't have all the weapons, so they just fucked up. 3272 02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:08,120 Speaker 3: The whole forest was making traps and shit. It's like 3273 02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:10,320 Speaker 3: that in real life. Anyway. 3274 02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:11,879 Speaker 4: Who solved this mystery? 3275 02:31:11,920 --> 02:31:16,840 Speaker 3: Scooby Doo in the gang, right, the DA said, uh. 3276 02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:20,760 Speaker 2: He allegedly told the Deputie sheriff he did this because 3277 02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:22,840 Speaker 2: he was angry about the noise and the traffic coming 3278 02:31:22,879 --> 02:31:26,280 Speaker 2: from the trail. Luckily someone discovered it before anyone got hurt. 3279 02:31:28,120 --> 02:31:31,959 Speaker 2: That's inexcusable on any level, said Tom Keeley. Snowmobile or 3280 02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Tom Keeley has never heard something like this before and 3281 02:31:35,320 --> 02:31:38,360 Speaker 2: doesn't feel it's too common. I think people are too 3282 02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:40,480 Speaker 2: lazy to wonder into the woods and the snow to 3283 02:31:40,520 --> 02:31:43,199 Speaker 2: do stuff like that. Either way, he says, you're out 3284 02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:44,960 Speaker 2: on the trails, you always want to keep your eyes 3285 02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:46,960 Speaker 2: and ears open. You always want to be aware of 3286 02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:49,400 Speaker 2: the trail, y'all. On the speed that you join your surroundings. 3287 02:31:49,640 --> 02:31:52,480 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to, because you never know 3288 02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:53,880 Speaker 2: what could come your way. 3289 02:31:54,280 --> 02:31:55,959 Speaker 3: You can't ride above your ability. 3290 02:31:56,000 --> 02:31:58,200 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of people out here that 3291 02:31:58,240 --> 02:32:01,360 Speaker 2: they they're superman too. You know, that's just not it, 3292 02:32:01,400 --> 02:32:03,480 Speaker 2: because anything can happen in split second. 3293 02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:05,200 Speaker 3: He's bone still said. 3294 02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:09,879 Speaker 2: Columbia County Sheriffs Office told news Ton ABC that the 3295 02:32:09,920 --> 02:32:14,199 Speaker 2: booby trap wasn't on a mark trail, but a smaller 3296 02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:19,040 Speaker 2: trail used by locals. Holly remains in Cussy for charges 3297 02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:23,560 Speaker 2: including reckless engagement, and he'll be back in court in March. 3298 02:32:23,800 --> 02:32:26,800 Speaker 2: So guess the race of Jason Holly kar This. 3299 02:32:26,720 --> 02:32:28,880 Speaker 4: Is very This is as white as that snow trill. 3300 02:32:29,240 --> 02:32:30,240 Speaker 3: All right, what about you? 3301 02:32:30,320 --> 02:32:33,480 Speaker 7: Marsha there's a bunch of signs. 3302 02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:37,160 Speaker 1: First of all, noise complaint. You know, I think he's 3303 02:32:37,200 --> 02:32:38,200 Speaker 1: probably a white person. 3304 02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:40,680 Speaker 2: M hmm, all right, let's check the chat room and 3305 02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:45,920 Speaker 2: see what they believe. White people crazy, white y'all motherfuckers are. 3306 02:32:47,360 --> 02:32:48,800 Speaker 3: Seriously, y'all are fucking crazy. 3307 02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,320 Speaker 2: Jim says, they ain't notice this entitled snowflake lyon traps 3308 02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:55,400 Speaker 2: because why we're white hurt white, But here we are 3309 02:32:55,560 --> 02:33:00,640 Speaker 2: white disappointed by Michael school, this is it by Michael 3310 02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:02,959 Speaker 2: Steele's RNC leadership and acted out. 3311 02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:04,520 Speaker 3: Well, we all know. 3312 02:33:04,480 --> 02:33:06,959 Speaker 2: Michael still only got that job because he's black. Guys, 3313 02:33:07,400 --> 02:33:10,560 Speaker 2: black people. Black people don't own snowmobiles, and there's class 3314 02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:11,320 Speaker 2: between either one. 3315 02:33:11,360 --> 02:33:12,480 Speaker 4: So it's all black. 3316 02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:14,879 Speaker 3: People don't own snowmobiles. White. 3317 02:33:15,400 --> 02:33:18,640 Speaker 2: How do you know his ancestors got those bones white? 3318 02:33:18,959 --> 02:33:22,680 Speaker 2: Kevin McAllister's white home on seventeen. 3319 02:33:22,920 --> 02:33:25,720 Speaker 3: Snowmobile automatically white, white. 3320 02:33:25,560 --> 02:33:28,119 Speaker 7: Domino. 3321 02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:33,080 Speaker 2: Serene winners sports Olympian white, extreme or Extreme Winter Sports 3322 02:33:33,080 --> 02:33:33,920 Speaker 2: Olympian white. 3323 02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:39,360 Speaker 3: And uh, the correct answer is he was a white man. 3324 02:33:40,280 --> 02:33:40,959 Speaker 3: What's my class? 3325 02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:42,960 Speaker 7: Of course? Thank god if it was. 3326 02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:51,959 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, you know, guys, I don't even have 3327 02:33:51,959 --> 02:33:53,560 Speaker 2: a picture of him. I just think he's white. 3328 02:33:54,080 --> 02:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's probably fair. Listen, we are mountain folk, 3329 02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:04,199 Speaker 1: as they say. 3330 02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:06,119 Speaker 4: It was like this sounds like. 3331 02:34:07,720 --> 02:34:10,640 Speaker 2: No black persons going into the snow of their own 3332 02:34:10,680 --> 02:34:14,160 Speaker 2: volition in the middle of nowhere. Timbuck t I'm good 3333 02:34:14,360 --> 02:34:19,120 Speaker 2: to kill some white people. Come on, man, right, Like 3334 02:34:19,160 --> 02:34:22,560 Speaker 2: we would just be like, don't go outside. Those nosy 3335 02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:25,200 Speaker 2: snowmobilers are back. That's all right. 3336 02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:26,800 Speaker 3: That would be the end of it, all right. 3337 02:34:26,920 --> 02:34:30,720 Speaker 2: Last thing, guys, we got to talk about sword ratchetness 3338 02:34:30,920 --> 02:34:31,880 Speaker 2: before we get out of here. 3339 02:34:31,879 --> 02:34:33,199 Speaker 3: It was my sore sound effect. 3340 02:34:44,440 --> 02:34:46,280 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's all right. 3341 02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:57,119 Speaker 3: We're almost all right, guys. Last story. 3342 02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:01,360 Speaker 2: A man is accused of attacking his girlfriend with a 3343 02:35:01,440 --> 02:35:04,959 Speaker 2: medieval sword while high on eight hits of. 3344 02:35:04,959 --> 02:35:07,280 Speaker 4: Acid eight hits. 3345 02:35:07,400 --> 02:35:10,040 Speaker 3: Good God, that's the race. 3346 02:35:10,640 --> 02:35:11,720 Speaker 4: Why you knew it? 3347 02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:16,360 Speaker 3: You knew it? A twenty year old man. He attacked 3348 02:35:16,360 --> 02:35:18,519 Speaker 3: her while he was He attacked. 3349 02:35:18,160 --> 02:35:20,360 Speaker 2: Her with a medieval sword while he was high on 3350 02:35:20,400 --> 02:35:21,720 Speaker 2: eight hits of assid eight hits. 3351 02:35:21,800 --> 02:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Dog, that's a lot, that's a lot. Uh. 3352 02:35:25,720 --> 02:35:27,879 Speaker 3: He's twenty years old. His name is Troy Steals. He 3353 02:35:27,959 --> 02:35:28,600 Speaker 3: was booked. 3354 02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:31,600 Speaker 2: Saturday on an aggravated second degree battery of a domestic 3355 02:35:31,640 --> 02:35:33,840 Speaker 2: partner in addition to the battery of a police officer. 3356 02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:36,560 Speaker 3: It seemingly began with a Netflix and. 3357 02:35:36,600 --> 02:35:38,959 Speaker 4: Chi introducing new clal nice. 3358 02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:40,440 Speaker 3: And music began. 3359 02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:45,560 Speaker 2: It began with a Netflix and chill gone really bad. 3360 02:35:45,959 --> 02:35:48,800 Speaker 2: His girlfriend told police they were watching Netflix while smoking 3361 02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:52,560 Speaker 2: weed on Saturday afternoon. At some point, Seals allegedly decided 3362 02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:54,000 Speaker 2: to escalate the activities. 3363 02:35:53,600 --> 02:35:56,720 Speaker 3: By consuming eight hits of acid. I wonder what the fuck. 3364 02:35:56,560 --> 02:35:56,840 Speaker 8: They were. 3365 02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:01,879 Speaker 3: And that's why marijuana's legal. Guys, who next thing? 3366 02:36:01,879 --> 02:36:02,120 Speaker 5: You know? 3367 02:36:02,160 --> 02:36:03,400 Speaker 3: You got acid and swords? 3368 02:36:03,480 --> 02:36:08,160 Speaker 4: Okay, just that same ship on Black Lightning. 3369 02:36:09,080 --> 02:36:12,600 Speaker 3: He must have been watching the Altar Car and wanted something. 3370 02:36:12,760 --> 02:36:15,120 Speaker 2: He's like, I need to watch this on ascid so 3371 02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:19,400 Speaker 2: I can trip balls. Oh what if he was just 3372 02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:22,880 Speaker 2: watching something. We were just watching something boring, you know 3373 02:36:22,920 --> 02:36:24,600 Speaker 2: what I mean. He's just like, this ship is trashed. 3374 02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:28,480 Speaker 2: Give me, give me eight hits an ascid and I 3375 02:36:28,560 --> 02:36:30,800 Speaker 2: finished this ship having. 3376 02:36:30,600 --> 02:36:34,679 Speaker 5: A concord Netflix and chill, and you was like, he's. 3377 02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:38,640 Speaker 1: Watching like uh Silver war by ken. 3378 02:36:38,440 --> 02:36:41,800 Speaker 6: Burns right, were chilling, and it was like. 3379 02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:44,760 Speaker 5: Let's take it up to it, not like no, we'll okay, 3380 02:36:44,840 --> 02:36:46,320 Speaker 5: let's let's bring let's bring this down. 3381 02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:47,640 Speaker 3: I want to be in the war. 3382 02:36:47,760 --> 02:36:50,640 Speaker 2: I want to I thought this was civil war with 3383 02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:54,280 Speaker 2: with marble and uh got in America and you know. 3384 02:36:54,280 --> 02:36:56,560 Speaker 4: He screamed out of the scatter the death blew high. 3385 02:36:56,600 --> 02:36:57,959 Speaker 4: She was like, what the fuck is happening? 3386 02:36:58,120 --> 02:37:00,680 Speaker 3: So he did ate his acid poo. 3387 02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:05,440 Speaker 2: Not long after ingesting LSD, the woman claim he began 3388 02:37:05,680 --> 02:37:08,560 Speaker 2: anti semitic and making white supremacy remarks. 3389 02:37:08,560 --> 02:37:11,920 Speaker 4: Oh and racist, Oh, acid and racism? 3390 02:37:12,480 --> 02:37:14,920 Speaker 3: How the fuck do you get? There? Is there a 3391 02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:16,480 Speaker 3: level of hot? I just haven't been. 3392 02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:20,039 Speaker 1: Your filter is gone. I've done acid because I'm white 3393 02:37:20,040 --> 02:37:25,560 Speaker 1: and I lived in Oregon, and they like all it 3394 02:37:25,680 --> 02:37:27,800 Speaker 1: is is like kind of truth serum in a way. 3395 02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:30,280 Speaker 1: So it's like they actually used to use LSD as 3396 02:37:30,280 --> 02:37:33,680 Speaker 1: like a torture device for like enemy soldiers or whatever 3397 02:37:34,000 --> 02:37:37,760 Speaker 1: to interrogate them. So if he's saying white supremacist things 3398 02:37:37,800 --> 02:37:40,240 Speaker 1: when he's on eight hits it acid, that means that 3399 02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:43,520 Speaker 1: he has been a secret white supremacist for probably a while. 3400 02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:45,600 Speaker 3: What a terrible way to find out. If yours girl, 3401 02:37:48,120 --> 02:37:48,840 Speaker 3: I guess. 3402 02:37:50,320 --> 02:37:53,160 Speaker 4: What she said? Racism and uh sex and stuff too. 3403 02:37:53,240 --> 02:37:57,800 Speaker 2: No, he said anti Semitic and white. 3404 02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:00,959 Speaker 1: There are a lot of Jewish people who are like, 3405 02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, Kushner works for Trump and like working for 3406 02:38:03,680 --> 02:38:06,760 Speaker 1: these white supremacists, thinking that Jews are considered white now 3407 02:38:07,040 --> 02:38:09,959 Speaker 1: and the very like literally the white supremacists in this 3408 02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:14,400 Speaker 1: country believe that Jews freed the slaves as a global 3409 02:38:14,480 --> 02:38:18,960 Speaker 1: conspiracy against white people. Like it's like really wrapped up. 3410 02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:23,320 Speaker 1: It's like, listen, they'll get your card too, like don't like, I. 3411 02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:27,680 Speaker 2: Mean, Michael Steele, wake up, come on up there, like 3412 02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:28,280 Speaker 2: Michael Steele. 3413 02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:31,880 Speaker 1: It's like fifty percent of Jews at this point, and 3414 02:38:31,959 --> 02:38:34,440 Speaker 1: it's just like so crazy, and it's mostly because of Israel. 3415 02:38:34,680 --> 02:38:36,600 Speaker 7: Right anyways, that's a whole separate podcast. 3416 02:38:38,480 --> 02:38:40,920 Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it, Reel. I just I 3417 02:38:41,000 --> 02:38:43,400 Speaker 2: just know enough to know that all my liberal friends. 3418 02:38:43,200 --> 02:38:46,000 Speaker 7: Say that anyway, the acid freak. 3419 02:38:47,640 --> 02:38:50,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, we're going to solve the Palestinian Israeli a conflict, 3420 02:38:50,959 --> 02:38:54,360 Speaker 2: right now, guys, Marcia, right now, go ahead and fix it, 3421 02:38:55,240 --> 02:38:55,640 Speaker 2: all right? 3422 02:38:56,040 --> 02:38:59,959 Speaker 4: Uh, I have both sides. 3423 02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:02,440 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite Ricking One of my favorite 3424 02:39:02,520 --> 02:39:07,800 Speaker 2: Ricked Morty jokes is that he got blackout drunk and 3425 02:39:08,240 --> 02:39:11,600 Speaker 2: he was testing the I forget the name of the group, 3426 02:39:11,600 --> 02:39:15,920 Speaker 2: but they're like the avengers of that world. And and 3427 02:39:15,959 --> 02:39:20,560 Speaker 2: he was like he was he was like, uh, there's 3428 02:39:20,600 --> 02:39:23,280 Speaker 2: one place and it's very and then and and this 3429 02:39:23,320 --> 02:39:25,440 Speaker 2: is the most important place in the in the galaxy. 3430 02:39:25,480 --> 02:39:29,240 Speaker 2: And Dad and then and then Morty because he's been 3431 02:39:29,240 --> 02:39:33,440 Speaker 2: around Rick's dysfunctional drunkness so much, he's like, it's Israel. 3432 02:39:33,560 --> 02:39:34,520 Speaker 3: And they're like, how'd you know? 3433 02:39:34,600 --> 02:39:36,960 Speaker 2: He's like, because you always get drunk and you start 3434 02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:39,520 Speaker 2: talking about it. And he was like, well, we don't 3435 02:39:39,560 --> 02:39:41,000 Speaker 2: know what kind of things I say. 3436 02:39:41,400 --> 02:39:41,880 Speaker 3: We don't know. 3437 02:39:41,920 --> 02:39:45,000 Speaker 2: I could be saying positive things. It doesn't have to 3438 02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:47,280 Speaker 2: be negative. It's like he got so insecure about it. 3439 02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:51,200 Speaker 2: And then and then like three like three episodes later, 3440 02:39:51,520 --> 02:40:00,360 Speaker 2: he saws the Israelian like conflicence. All right, anyway, yeah, 3441 02:40:00,440 --> 02:40:03,800 Speaker 2: soon it got physical. Seals allegedly began punching his girlfriend 3442 02:40:03,800 --> 02:40:04,280 Speaker 2: in the face. 3443 02:40:04,520 --> 02:40:05,879 Speaker 3: Oh as you do. 3444 02:40:06,040 --> 02:40:08,480 Speaker 5: Right, So, I mean, he didn't come out and say it, 3445 02:40:08,520 --> 02:40:12,680 Speaker 5: but I'm assuming if these two groups sexism was connected, 3446 02:40:12,800 --> 02:40:13,960 Speaker 5: he might have not said it. 3447 02:40:14,040 --> 02:40:16,520 Speaker 4: But if he's one of them, run run. 3448 02:40:17,920 --> 02:40:20,680 Speaker 1: There's no white supremacist who like treats his girlfriend. 3449 02:40:20,760 --> 02:40:21,000 Speaker 7: Well. 3450 02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:27,400 Speaker 2: No, my favorite, my favorite, my favorite part about this 3451 02:40:27,480 --> 02:40:29,720 Speaker 2: is if I called him trash, I'd be kicked off Facebook. 3452 02:40:30,120 --> 02:40:30,840 Speaker 4: Yes, you would be. 3453 02:40:32,240 --> 02:40:34,720 Speaker 1: Even if you just called him a white supremacist. If 3454 02:40:34,720 --> 02:40:37,480 Speaker 1: it says the guy said white supremacist stuff, then you said, wow, 3455 02:40:37,640 --> 02:40:40,920 Speaker 1: this white man is a white supremacist. That would get. 3456 02:40:41,240 --> 02:40:43,320 Speaker 5: Thirty days, sixty days, I don't know, keep going up 3457 02:40:43,360 --> 02:40:44,360 Speaker 5: every time you get kicked off. 3458 02:40:44,440 --> 02:40:46,560 Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, ESPN don't want me on TV. No, 3459 02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:47,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. 3460 02:40:47,440 --> 02:40:50,560 Speaker 2: According to the affid, Seals then allegedly attacked her with 3461 02:40:50,600 --> 02:40:53,720 Speaker 2: a medieval sword. She suffered contoosias to her limbs and 3462 02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:54,880 Speaker 2: a fractured forearm. 3463 02:40:55,280 --> 02:40:57,000 Speaker 4: Good God, what did he do? 3464 02:40:57,440 --> 02:40:59,680 Speaker 3: There was blood on the sword and all around the home. 3465 02:41:01,000 --> 02:41:03,200 Speaker 2: As police tried to arrest him, he allegedly ented in an 3466 02:41:03,200 --> 02:41:06,320 Speaker 2: officer's finger. He actively fought arrest. At the time of 3467 02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:09,840 Speaker 2: the arrest, Seals allegedly yelled that he is God. In addition, 3468 02:41:10,000 --> 02:41:11,800 Speaker 2: police say he yelled bright lights. 3469 02:41:13,520 --> 02:41:15,400 Speaker 1: So he has a sword and they don't shoot him. 3470 02:41:15,400 --> 02:41:17,240 Speaker 1: And I just watched that video of the guy with 3471 02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:21,280 Speaker 1: the knife being shot when he's like ten feet away 3472 02:41:21,280 --> 02:41:24,520 Speaker 1: from the officers. This guy legitimately cuts an officer with 3473 02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:28,000 Speaker 1: a sword, and he's on acid. So you know that 3474 02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:32,480 Speaker 1: he's behaving like an absolutely erratic, which is another excuse 3475 02:41:32,520 --> 02:41:33,520 Speaker 1: that they also use. 3476 02:41:34,120 --> 02:41:36,520 Speaker 2: Well, they knew he was on their side with the 3477 02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:39,600 Speaker 2: white supremacist stuff, so they were like, we can't do this. 3478 02:41:39,600 --> 02:41:41,440 Speaker 3: The one around this is Jeff. 3479 02:41:41,480 --> 02:41:43,400 Speaker 7: You guys, he's just having a bad knight. 3480 02:41:45,320 --> 02:41:46,440 Speaker 4: Kill all the Jews. 3481 02:41:46,480 --> 02:41:48,520 Speaker 3: They're like, okay, let's hear him out. Guys. 3482 02:41:49,080 --> 02:41:51,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Jeff, you guys. 3483 02:41:51,200 --> 02:41:53,400 Speaker 7: I told you not to do this this Saturday. 3484 02:41:53,080 --> 02:41:57,920 Speaker 2: Jefen Jeff, the acid party is next week. Did you 3485 02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:02,640 Speaker 2: just do all the acid for the party, Jeff yourself? Jesus, Oh, 3486 02:42:02,959 --> 02:42:05,200 Speaker 2: the white supremacis meeting party is going to be so 3487 02:42:05,320 --> 02:42:08,800 Speaker 2: bad today. When asked why he attacked his girlfriend, he 3488 02:42:08,840 --> 02:42:10,400 Speaker 2: told the police, I was trying to hit her in 3489 02:42:10,440 --> 02:42:15,680 Speaker 2: the head, which is not really an explanation. That's more 3490 02:42:15,720 --> 02:42:18,760 Speaker 2: about thank god she lives. 3491 02:42:18,879 --> 02:42:23,480 Speaker 4: I mean, right, we went from and chill to the extreme. 3492 02:42:25,160 --> 02:42:26,720 Speaker 7: You guys are always the red flag. 3493 02:42:26,840 --> 02:42:28,760 Speaker 1: If you see a man who collects swords and he's 3494 02:42:28,800 --> 02:42:31,959 Speaker 1: not like literally a historian or like a professional nerd, 3495 02:42:32,280 --> 02:42:35,760 Speaker 1: run for the fucking hills. Like I knew a sword 3496 02:42:35,760 --> 02:42:37,959 Speaker 1: guy and he was the weirdest. He had like the 3497 02:42:38,000 --> 02:42:40,480 Speaker 1: biggest Napoleon complex anyone I've ever met in my life. 3498 02:42:40,520 --> 02:42:42,599 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, he's gonna kill somebody. 3499 02:42:42,400 --> 02:42:44,000 Speaker 3: And we're not. 3500 02:42:44,360 --> 02:42:46,720 Speaker 2: We're never gonna get to gun control in this country 3501 02:42:46,760 --> 02:42:50,360 Speaker 2: if we don't start at sword control. Okay, we can't 3502 02:42:50,400 --> 02:42:54,000 Speaker 2: even get sword registration. You don't need a sword license. 3503 02:42:54,360 --> 02:42:54,400 Speaker 5: No. 3504 02:42:54,600 --> 02:42:57,280 Speaker 3: Yet, we think we can get the AR fifteen taking 3505 02:42:57,360 --> 02:42:57,680 Speaker 3: the back. 3506 02:42:57,800 --> 02:43:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, God, I don't know. And you know what, 3507 02:43:01,400 --> 02:43:04,000 Speaker 1: if we can't prevent all sword deaths, why should we 3508 02:43:04,040 --> 02:43:05,280 Speaker 1: even try to prevent one. 3509 02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:06,840 Speaker 2: You know what I can stop a good guy with 3510 02:43:06,920 --> 02:43:08,960 Speaker 2: a sword or a bad guy with the sore is 3511 02:43:09,440 --> 02:43:09,960 Speaker 2: them not having. 3512 02:43:11,320 --> 02:43:14,920 Speaker 3: No, just them not having they did not have, they 3513 02:43:14,959 --> 02:43:18,080 Speaker 3: would be stopped. Mania, thank you so. 3514 02:43:18,120 --> 02:43:21,199 Speaker 2: Much for hanging out with us. 3515 02:43:22,600 --> 02:43:26,160 Speaker 3: We love you, we appreciate us. 3516 02:43:26,280 --> 02:43:27,120 Speaker 1: I love you all. 3517 02:43:27,600 --> 02:43:29,200 Speaker 7: So I'm so glad we finally did this. 3518 02:43:29,600 --> 02:43:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we were like behind the scenes, we tried 3519 02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:33,200 Speaker 2: to do this last year. 3520 02:43:33,240 --> 02:43:36,440 Speaker 3: We had scheduling stuff come up. But so glad to 3521 02:43:36,480 --> 02:43:37,320 Speaker 3: be able to. 3522 02:43:36,959 --> 02:43:39,280 Speaker 1: To That morning, I was so panicked because I was 3523 02:43:39,320 --> 02:43:41,760 Speaker 1: awake and I'm like waiting and I didn't know you. 3524 02:43:41,879 --> 02:43:43,680 Speaker 1: So I was like, I should maybe should reach out 3525 02:43:43,680 --> 02:43:45,240 Speaker 1: to him, but I had like no way to contact you. 3526 02:43:45,280 --> 02:43:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't even think we were friends on Facebook at 3527 02:43:47,080 --> 02:43:50,080 Speaker 1: that point. So you're like tweeting and tagging me like 3528 02:43:50,200 --> 02:43:51,320 Speaker 1: live in two minutes. 3529 02:43:51,520 --> 02:43:55,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's all. I'm glad it worked out. Man, 3530 02:43:55,440 --> 02:43:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad you able to do this. And like I said, 3531 02:43:57,440 --> 02:43:59,320 Speaker 2: a big fan of Mas Saundry. I listened to every 3532 02:43:59,320 --> 02:44:02,880 Speaker 2: episode and guys are so funny. Yes, it's so smart 3533 02:44:03,080 --> 02:44:04,920 Speaker 2: and all the all the accolades. 3534 02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:05,200 Speaker 9: Man. 3535 02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:08,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, Ray and I we both said how we're 3536 02:44:08,879 --> 02:44:11,680 Speaker 1: both committing to this long distance relationship more than we 3537 02:44:11,760 --> 02:44:13,600 Speaker 1: would ever do so for a man. 3538 02:44:15,520 --> 02:44:18,480 Speaker 2: Because unlike man, what you do is important, okay, and 3539 02:44:18,520 --> 02:44:22,680 Speaker 2: we need it. Yeah, exactly, oh man, and y'all if 3540 02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:25,040 Speaker 2: you can take it. I would suggest people go listen 3541 02:44:25,080 --> 02:44:28,200 Speaker 2: to conversations with people hate me because it's just a. 3542 02:44:28,200 --> 02:44:30,000 Speaker 3: Cool, real good show episode. 3543 02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:33,720 Speaker 2: And I feel like Marsha's shut him down in like 3544 02:44:33,760 --> 02:44:38,040 Speaker 2: a very in the nicest, most honest, refreshing way, as 3545 02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:40,240 Speaker 2: opposed to like trying to pick a side. You handle 3546 02:44:40,320 --> 02:44:44,480 Speaker 2: that enjoint because he wanted he wanted to try to use. 3547 02:44:44,440 --> 02:44:46,120 Speaker 1: The humor like they want to make you upset. That's 3548 02:44:46,120 --> 02:44:48,039 Speaker 1: why I started doing this with Sandry stuff, so I'm like, 3549 02:44:48,080 --> 02:44:50,480 Speaker 1: instead of just getting mad every time these guys say this, 3550 02:44:50,600 --> 02:44:53,000 Speaker 1: what if I beat them with the joke, you know 3551 02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:55,039 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like this, one guy asked me to 3552 02:44:55,040 --> 02:44:56,600 Speaker 1: be on his podcast and I looked him up and 3553 02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:59,800 Speaker 1: he had this segment called rape or gnaw or It's 3554 02:44:59,840 --> 02:45:02,240 Speaker 1: like let's go through the me too stories and see 3555 02:45:02,280 --> 02:45:04,400 Speaker 1: is it rape or not? And I like sent him 3556 02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:06,240 Speaker 1: back and he was like, well, you should listen to 3557 02:45:06,240 --> 02:45:08,440 Speaker 1: the segment. And I looked at his page. He had 3558 02:45:08,560 --> 02:45:11,160 Speaker 1: zero reviews, and I sent him back. As much as 3559 02:45:11,200 --> 02:45:13,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear the nuances of rape or not, 3560 02:45:15,280 --> 02:45:18,320 Speaker 1: I actually prefer podcasts with listeners. So it's like, just 3561 02:45:18,360 --> 02:45:20,280 Speaker 1: beat them at their own game with the humor. Because 3562 02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:22,520 Speaker 1: then he responded like, oh, well you got me there, 3563 02:45:22,640 --> 02:45:24,000 Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, I'm smarter than. 3564 02:45:23,840 --> 02:45:26,520 Speaker 5: You, right, so right, And I went actually trying to 3565 02:45:26,640 --> 02:45:28,840 Speaker 5: research on people who just going to rand when he 3566 02:45:28,879 --> 02:45:29,560 Speaker 5: asked me on the. 3567 02:45:29,640 --> 02:45:33,879 Speaker 2: Show, and he was definitely trying to make you like 3568 02:45:34,120 --> 02:45:36,680 Speaker 2: the quote unquote angry feminists so he could be the 3569 02:45:37,040 --> 02:45:39,199 Speaker 2: so he could be like, I'm the real victim here. 3570 02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:41,600 Speaker 2: Look how they can't take me and you just totally 3571 02:45:41,600 --> 02:45:43,280 Speaker 2: shut that shit down. And I know you don't want 3572 02:45:43,280 --> 02:45:45,720 Speaker 2: to listen it again, but it was great, and I hope. 3573 02:45:45,640 --> 02:45:46,920 Speaker 7: I will eventually. I will. 3574 02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I started to and then as soon as he 3575 02:45:48,879 --> 02:45:50,440 Speaker 1: started talking, I clicked it off. 3576 02:45:51,000 --> 02:45:53,440 Speaker 3: He's so annoying. He's so annoying. 3577 02:45:54,000 --> 02:45:56,760 Speaker 1: He messaged me afterwards on Facebook and stuff too, Like 3578 02:45:56,840 --> 02:46:00,000 Speaker 1: he messaged me, we had this whole conversation that ended on. 3579 02:46:00,080 --> 02:46:01,959 Speaker 7: A nice note. He messages me. 3580 02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:04,160 Speaker 1: A week later, you were on twice in a row 3581 02:46:04,240 --> 02:46:07,320 Speaker 1: and it was that Idiots of the Week thing. I'm like, 3582 02:46:07,800 --> 02:46:09,920 Speaker 1: all right, bro, I'm like, well now, I just know 3583 02:46:09,959 --> 02:46:11,720 Speaker 1: you want attention, so I'm just gonna ignore it. 3584 02:46:13,480 --> 02:46:16,879 Speaker 2: And you're still listening to that show. Also, really, two 3585 02:46:16,920 --> 02:46:19,959 Speaker 2: in a row, there were no other idiots that show. 3586 02:46:20,560 --> 02:46:23,360 Speaker 2: That show's got to step it up. I'm sorry. 3587 02:46:22,560 --> 02:46:25,280 Speaker 1: I get flattered, Like all these trolls have gone to 3588 02:46:25,320 --> 02:46:28,680 Speaker 1: my YouTube videos to downfote them, but no one looks 3589 02:46:28,720 --> 02:46:31,800 Speaker 1: at the down votes, and they've given me thousands of views. 3590 02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all are stupid, Like they download our podcast 3591 02:46:34,879 --> 02:46:38,840 Speaker 1: to hate listen. I'm like, you're giving us advertising money potentially, 3592 02:46:38,959 --> 02:46:39,600 Speaker 1: like you are. 3593 02:46:41,120 --> 02:46:41,920 Speaker 3: That's so amazing. 3594 02:46:42,000 --> 02:46:45,360 Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm happy that I finally got. 3595 02:46:45,640 --> 02:46:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And don't forget to tell them about the Handmade 3596 02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:49,800 Speaker 2: Tell the musical coming up March eighth. 3597 02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:53,360 Speaker 1: Come yeah, come see Handmaids Telling Musical at the Bell 3598 02:46:53,400 --> 02:46:57,160 Speaker 1: House March eight. It's gonna be really, really incredible, all. 3599 02:46:57,160 --> 02:47:00,400 Speaker 2: Right, So thank you so much much for being We'll 3600 02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:03,000 Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. Thank you everybody for listening live and 3601 02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:06,600 Speaker 2: checking us out, and we appreciate you out until next time. 3602 02:47:06,680 --> 02:47:07,440 Speaker 3: I love you, I love you.