Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Robert here. The episode you are about to
Speaker 1: listen to is me and Scherene lani Yunis and Sophie,
Speaker 1: our producer extraordinaire, going through some of Andrew Tate's writings,
Speaker 1: particularly a book of his Collected Wisdom and some of
Speaker 1: these weird kung fu stories that he's written. It's all
Speaker 1: fucked up and terrible. We recorded this when he was
Speaker 1: still incarcerated in solitary confinement. He has now been released
Speaker 1: to house arrest. So in the episode, whenever we talk
Speaker 1: about him being in a Romanian jail, just replace that
Speaker 1: with the phrase house arrest in your head and it'll
Speaker 1: be like we edited it ourselves. Welcome to the Manosphere
Speaker 1: Man Cast with Chunt Grunt Punch. We're here today to
Speaker 1: talk about all of my tips and tricks for picking
Speaker 1: up high value ladies. First off, though, I want to
Speaker 1: introduce my guests for today, my co hosts on the
Speaker 1: Man Cast, Scherene lani Unis and Sophie Lichterman. How are
Speaker 1: y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Robert, you won't ever do that in our presence again?
Speaker 1: Are you ready for the man Cast?
Speaker 3: Doing it for the for the pod? You know? I
Speaker 3: understand why he chose. I understand. It doesn't mean I
Speaker 3: like it, but I understand it.
Speaker 1: It's it's called maybe we should have called it the
Speaker 1: grunt Cast. But yeah, I think it's a good idea.
Speaker 1: I think this is what we should pivot to doing, Sophie,
Speaker 1: because it is apparently the easiest way to make money
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 2: You repulsed me, and I did not enjoy that, Sophie.
Speaker 1: All we gotta do. We got to fuck up the
Speaker 1: heads of like ten or fifteen million, like teenage boys,
Speaker 1: and then we retire.
Speaker 2: Or easy or you get the easy or you could
Speaker 2: throw it into jail in Romina.
Speaker 1: Well we won't. We won't go to Romania, Sophie. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, I Andrew Tate.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Well, well, it's a great place to go if you
Speaker 1: are not operating a massive sex trafficking ring and bragging
Speaker 1: that the Romanian government won't arrest you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't. You should avoid Romania.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, You should avoid most places. If
Speaker 1: that's the case. This is a book episode. You all
Speaker 1: know what a book episode is, uh, Scharene. We've been
Speaker 1: we've been struggling to find a new book for our
Speaker 1: book episodes for a while now, and I think I
Speaker 1: may have landed on it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: We're actually going to be covering two books today and
Speaker 1: both of them are written by friend of the Pod,
Speaker 1: Andrew Taate.
Speaker 3: Friend of the Pod. I was on here for Stephen
Speaker 3: Sigal's book, right.
Speaker 1: You were on here for Steven Sagal's terrible, terrible book.
Speaker 3: Wrote all that fucking cover. The cover, I just remember
Speaker 3: the cover.
Speaker 2: The cover was was a choice.
Speaker 1: This book has a better cover, not a good cover,
Speaker 1: but a but a better cover. Is like, well, the
Speaker 1: first book we're talking about by Andrew Tait is his
Speaker 1: Tales of Woodawn, which is is Wudon is like a
Speaker 1: mountain in China and the kind of two big schools
Speaker 1: of Chinese martial arts, like one of them is named
Speaker 1: after Wudon because I guess it's just kind of like
Speaker 1: where it originated. But Andrew Tait, despite being kind of
Speaker 1: a you know, mediocre kickboxer, is is very married to
Speaker 1: the idea of being like a like a monastic warrior thing,
Speaker 1: which which is, yeah, go to I want you to
Speaker 1: go to the Cobra Tate. That's his website's name, Tails
Speaker 1: of bud On page to take a look at this thing.
Speaker 1: When I say it's a better cover than the Stephen
Speaker 1: Sigal book, that's that's not praise. So it opens up.
Speaker 3: With just like a gift of him, basically like smoking
Speaker 3: a cigar. It's like a fucking.
Speaker 1: Parody of what much everything he does is. So it's
Speaker 1: there's like a drawing of him that it's weird because
Speaker 1: the the art style is like a mix of kind
Speaker 1: of vaguely competent sort of Asian landscapes, but then the
Speaker 1: illustrations of like Andrew Tate as a as a fucking
Speaker 1: kung fu master. It almost looks like a political cartoon
Speaker 1: of him. Like it's it's weird. It's it's a strange
Speaker 1: mix of styles. But it does beat the Shadow Wold's book.
Speaker 1: I'll give it that, I guess, Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 3: The one good thing I guess is that it beats
Speaker 3: the worst cover of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now, to get this book, you have two
Speaker 1: options sharene one is that you sign up for Andrew
Speaker 1: Tate's mailing list and every week he'll send you a
Speaker 1: new story from it, which fuck that, absolutely not. The
Speaker 1: other is that you pay five dollars for the book,
Speaker 1: which also fuck that.
Speaker 3: Dollars too much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The third is that you scroll through I lied,
Speaker 1: there's three. You scroll through the tales of wudon twitter page,
Speaker 1: and apparently you get to the stories. Look, they're they're
Speaker 1: boring as shit, But I am going to read one
Speaker 1: of them for you because it's it's funny and it
Speaker 1: will serve as a good introduction to andrew second book,
Speaker 1: which we're also going to cover.
Speaker 3: Just just before I exit out of this website.
Speaker 1: Click X, you're gonna need to burn your laptop.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've never been on this before, but like, do
Speaker 3: you know how like some websites have like a live
Speaker 3: chat for help option, So for this one, it pops
Speaker 3: up immediately, like it's just on the front page, and
Speaker 3: it says, this not just a live chat bot. This
Speaker 3: is your chance to get personal attention from Tate's personally
Speaker 3: trained special forces.
Speaker 1: My god, what are they going to under walk around
Speaker 1: alone in a jail cell.
Speaker 3: His says, this is your chance to change your life.
Speaker 3: Begin a conversation below, and follow the next steps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little cult he's got going online. I've
Speaker 1: continued following his journey after his arrest, and like, just
Speaker 1: f yi, he has like friends on the outside that
Speaker 1: he sends tweets to, and they've gone from like I'm
Speaker 1: innocent and you know, will be vindicated to talking about
Speaker 1: his like jail cell workout routine and all sorts of
Speaker 1: like uh. He most recently he bragged about defeating a
Speaker 1: ghost in hand to hand combat. So it's it's he's
Speaker 1: he's doing well, is what I'm saying. I would normally
Speaker 1: say I wouldn't wish solitary confinement on anybody, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know solitary confinement could be this funny. So now
Speaker 1: like I'm morally compromised, but it is very.
Speaker 3: Funny that on anybody. You're the for this. There are
Speaker 3: so many shitty people. All of you should be in
Speaker 3: a pit somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I have no sympathy for the I have.
Speaker 1: I have an alternate standpoint, but that's gonna. I promised,
Speaker 1: Sophie my New Year's resolution was not to talk about
Speaker 1: killing people on this podcast more than one, sup quarter? Yeah,
Speaker 1: more than one.
Speaker 2: You've already wild and Q one. But okay, I know, Sophie.
Speaker 1: You know life is a journey, okay, and some times,
Speaker 1: you know, you. Rather than getting obsessed with your failures,
Speaker 1: you should just celebrate the attempt.
Speaker 2: I thought life was a highway.
Speaker 1: Well that's also that's also what life is and life
Speaker 1: is for Andrew Tait. Life is a five thousand year
Speaker 1: long process. Because this the introduction to his book Tales
Speaker 1: of wood On begins in a previous life, I lived
Speaker 1: five thousand human years atop Woodon Mountain. I remember every
Speaker 1: lived second.
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ a big riot here.
Speaker 1: Life is competition. Competition is violence. In many modern forms
Speaker 1: of competition, we have attempted to water down the violent
Speaker 1: aspects to replicate violence in the most sanitized way. We
Speaker 1: have full grown men growing as large and strong as
Speaker 1: possible to put a ball in a net, as opposed
Speaker 1: to hurting each other. It's funny that he focuses on basketball,
Speaker 1: because football is still about men hurting each other to
Speaker 1: the point that they destroy their brains.
Speaker 3: It's the most dangerous sport, isn't it isn't it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, also mma, which is his sport? Like both like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not really sanitized, but the sentiment is the same. It's
Speaker 1: a group of men at war with each with another,
Speaker 1: with one team being victors and the other being losers,
Speaker 1: the largest, strongest, most beautiful tree violently crushing the surrounding saplings,
Speaker 1: and the quest for resource. He just says resource. Every
Speaker 1: time I see beauty, I see struggle, the struggle required
Speaker 1: to create it. When I see myself, I know the
Speaker 1: struggle lived to become who I am. To live as
Speaker 1: I do, the more sophisticated my understanding of the universe's
Speaker 1: constant state of war, the happier, more content and peaceful
Speaker 1: I feel. You are meant to struggle. You are here
Speaker 1: to suffer. If you do neither of these things, you
Speaker 1: are either dead or invisible. If you want people to
Speaker 1: care who you are, become familiar with pain. If you
Speaker 1: do not struggle to become an exceptional man, you are
Speaker 1: a nobody, and every female will prove to you you
Speaker 1: may as well not exist.
Speaker 3: The female is like the worst of the worst words
Speaker 3: to use to describe people with volvos like.
Speaker 1: I just it's one of the easiest ways, though, to
Speaker 1: determine whether or not someone is like a piece of shit.
Speaker 1: If yeah, that is, if they if they use it
Speaker 1: in that way.
Speaker 3: That was that was That was a long sentence you
Speaker 3: just read.
Speaker 1: It's like it's laid out as almost as if it's
Speaker 1: a zin Cohen But it's it's not. It's just like
Speaker 1: dog shit, uh fucking fight club ass level philosophy, but
Speaker 1: without like the knowledge that fight club is a satire
Speaker 1: of this kind of philosophy. Right, Yeah, they're not.
Speaker 3: He's not evolved enough to understand that it's not that serious.
Speaker 1: It's also very funny that he's life like, life is struggle.
Speaker 1: You know, I am like the strong oak that has
Speaker 1: choked out the saplings beautiful at and I do this
Speaker 1: so that girls will like me. Yeah, that is the
Speaker 1: most pathetic. It's so sad.
Speaker 3: How does how does he get away with being so pathetic?
Speaker 3: And because just big fucking dork dorks are great, but
Speaker 3: there's a certain kind of dork that he is that
Speaker 3: is fucking pathetic.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because he's he reaching out to like thirteen
Speaker 1: year old boys, yeah, who who are raised on like
Speaker 1: a mix of like comic books and video games and anime.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's nothing wrong with any of those things,
Speaker 1: but when those form your entire like level of familiarity
Speaker 1: with the world, it's easy for a guy like Andrew
Speaker 1: to come in here with a story that sounds like
Speaker 1: the opening for like a nineteen nineties fighting game, and
Speaker 1: you know they're crazy dry in a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's continue with the tales of Wudon for a little
Speaker 1: bit longer. Evolution requires pain, while others complain that they
Speaker 1: do not feel happy enough. I'm happy, I'm struggling. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be happy. I want to be great.
Speaker 1: This is the beauty of life. As a man all caps,
Speaker 1: we are born valueless. You're either all caps man. You
Speaker 1: either build yourself into a king or you fail. A
Speaker 1: top Wudan, I told priest Master Yan Hue, how at
Speaker 1: peace I felt amongst the trees. I could feel life
Speaker 1: all around me, sitting at the foot of the largest tree.
Speaker 1: I asked him, when life is so beautiful, why do
Speaker 1: we fight? His reply was simple, do you think the
Speaker 1: largest tree you sit beneath grew so tall amongst many
Speaker 1: if it didn't fight in a previous life? I lived
Speaker 1: five thousand years atop wood on mountain. I remember every
Speaker 1: lived second now. I wanted to highlight this story because
Speaker 1: it's an example of like the perfect flaws in this
Speaker 1: style of thinking, Like how it's not just like silly
Speaker 1: on its face, but actually if you attempt to engage
Speaker 1: with it scientifically, and he is trying to make a
Speaker 1: scientific argument here. It's also a perfectly wrong understanding of
Speaker 1: forest ecology in biology. Obviously, there's a lot of competition
Speaker 1: in nature, a lot of competition among trees and plants.
Speaker 1: There's also a huge amount of cooperation. One of the
Speaker 1: I believe it's Acacia trees in a chunk of Africa, Like,
Speaker 1: when they start being fed on by herbivores, the trees
Speaker 1: will start to release like a pheromone essentially that will
Speaker 1: warn the other trees that they're being fed on, so
Speaker 1: that they can start production of a tannin that's poisonous
Speaker 1: to the animals. And so like the trees communicate as
Speaker 1: a grove to work together to protect themselves, and likewise,
Speaker 1: the animals have evolved over time to only eat little
Speaker 1: bits of the trees at a time before it starts
Speaker 1: to get poisonous. There's this thing actually anyway, it's that.
Speaker 3: Tree must be so good to still to still risk
Speaker 3: eating a little bit.
Speaker 1: It must it's got to be delicious. Yeah, what if
Speaker 1: you were like, all right, you can eat some cheetos,
Speaker 1: but after forty five seconds there's cyanide in them. The
Speaker 1: bag of Cheetos will defend itself exactly.
Speaker 3: I think. I do think that Andrew Tate thinks he's
Speaker 3: like a philosopher or like it makes you wonder how
Speaker 3: philosophers become philosophers, because like I think he's in his
Speaker 3: mind he's saying something really profound, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the truth is that like a lot
Speaker 1: of philosophers are guys like Andrew Tate, and that they
Speaker 1: were just assholes who said stupid shit, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people listen to them. You know, for every Diogenes,
Speaker 1: there's uh, there's a kant immanual kant So I wanted
Speaker 1: to highlight a little more about how wrong this fucking
Speaker 1: attitude towards trees is. I don't know why, but there's
Speaker 1: a there's an article on americanforest dot org that I
Speaker 1: read years ago that I started thinking about as soon
Speaker 1: as this came up, because it's one of like the
Speaker 1: saddest stories I've ever read. The article title is almost
Speaker 1: impossibly bleak. It's titled The Trees That Miss the Mammoths,
Speaker 1: and it's about the osage orange tree, which I believe
Speaker 1: is what we call bodark, what we white folks call
Speaker 1: bodark in the South. But it's and it's one of
Speaker 1: the hardest trees on earth, and you can grow it
Speaker 1: into like fence posts and stuff like. It's that that's
Speaker 1: what they used to do with it, is they used
Speaker 1: to like seed it specifically so that they could like
Speaker 1: make fences and stuff out of it. It's also Indigenous
Speaker 1: Americans used it to make bows because it's a really
Speaker 1: good tree for making bows from. But one of the
Speaker 1: weird things about it is that it's incredibly naturally it's
Speaker 1: incredibly geographically isolated. It doesn't grow out of this tiny
Speaker 1: area in like Oklahoma and Texas, and it has these
Speaker 1: these massive, green, fleshy fruits. They're they're these huge green fruits.
Speaker 1: We used to call them horse apples because they were
Speaker 1: all over all over the farrow horse apples. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would huck them at cows I was six. Look, you
Speaker 1: can't judge me for it, but yeah, they were. There
Speaker 1: are these that we call them horse apples, and you
Speaker 1: can't eat them right. They're inedible for basically everybody because
Speaker 1: the seeds are so hard. I think there's a couple
Speaker 1: of animals that did not naturally eat them. But but
Speaker 1: we'll eat them now once we've put.
Speaker 3: Them together, I'm looking at them now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're wild, they're massive, they're massive and fruits and
Speaker 1: nothing eats them really anymore, and they don't spread naturally.
Speaker 1: They're so heavy that like they don't get spread wild
Speaker 1: widely around, like birds don't eat them and poop the
Speaker 1: seeds out. Well, they barely are. Mostly the reason why
Speaker 1: they're still alive is that we have like intentionally bred
Speaker 1: them because we wanted the wood. But yeah, so tree
Speaker 1: nerds have been trying to figure out, like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is up with this stuff? Why would a tree
Speaker 1: evolve to have fruit that's so hard and so heavy
Speaker 1: and doesn't spread like that seems like a bad evolutionary idea.
Speaker 1: And the understanding they've come to is that it's because, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the trees co evolved with mammoths and giant sloths and
Speaker 1: that's what would eat their fruit and would spread their seeds.
Speaker 1: And when all of the giant sloths and mammoths were
Speaker 1: hunted to extinction, there was nothing to spread the tree
Speaker 1: seeds anymore, so they stopped spreading around. And it's it's
Speaker 1: evidence that as much as competition is a part of nature,
Speaker 1: so is collaboration and interdependency, you know, because it's not
Speaker 1: like the mammoth isn't saying I'm going to spread these seeds,
Speaker 1: and the tree isn't saying I'm going to feed these
Speaker 1: mammoths in exchange for them spreading my seeds. But that's
Speaker 1: the way it works out. They were both dependent on
Speaker 1: each other. And now that this this these species that
Speaker 1: they used to depend on, it is gone. The august
Speaker 1: osage tree, despite how hard and tough and strong, and
Speaker 1: it's an incredibly strong plant, it's it can't breed on
Speaker 1: its own. Why because it proves wrong. I think, because
Speaker 1: he's wrong about trees, Sophie tree.
Speaker 3: The tree is just missing its buddies, and it's missing
Speaker 3: them for centuries. That's really sad.
Speaker 2: It was. I thought we were on a different show
Speaker 2: for a second or one. I'm like, we're doing something
Speaker 2: that I feel like would be very good. Happen here
Speaker 2: to explain tree facts. No, No, it's a juckery, Robert.
Speaker 1: Where the fucker the fuckery is He's lying about trees
Speaker 1: to children, and children are going to grow up not
Speaker 1: knowing about the giant sloth and the osage orange tree.
Speaker 1: And that makes me angry.
Speaker 2: Okay, justified, he is wrong him.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, But Sophie, I hear what you're saying. You
Speaker 1: want more Andrew Tait fuckery, and I'm going to give
Speaker 1: you slightly more than you bargained for here, because I
Speaker 1: in trying to find copies of the Way of Wudan,
Speaker 1: I found the saddest post that I have ever seen
Speaker 1: on Reddit. It is it is heartbreaking. This is from
Speaker 1: the Cobra Tate subreddit, which is listed as the only
Speaker 1: official community of Andrew Cobra Tate. It's only got three
Speaker 1: point seven thousand members too, which is not a anyway.
Speaker 1: The post is titled the Way of Wodan and it's
Speaker 1: written by a user named Alfred Ceipher about nine months ago.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to read this. Just hold onto your
Speaker 1: hearts because this is going to break them.
Speaker 2: Sure, and I'll hold your heart. You hold my plase,
Speaker 2: Yeah you go, There you go.
Speaker 1: May I perhaps should have said, hold on to your
Speaker 1: gag reflex, but here we go. It may sound like
Speaker 1: a fairy tale, but this story couldn't be more realistic.
Speaker 1: What I'm about to share is the story of how
Speaker 1: my trajectory and life changed literally overnight. How I found
Speaker 1: my path to wudan not gonna lie. I was a
Speaker 1: brutal loser, and I'm being modest about how I'm describing it.
Speaker 1: I was way worse, already dead. If I might add,
Speaker 1: I had no friends. The people in my life were
Speaker 1: shitty and put me down every single chance they got.
Speaker 1: I was alone, depressed, and lazy, not to mention stupid.
Speaker 1: The worst part of it was I knew all these
Speaker 1: things deep down. I knew who I truly was, and
Speaker 1: my mind made it clear to me every single day.
Speaker 1: A sore loser, nobody wanted me. I hid myself at
Speaker 1: home just to cope with the pain. It got worse.
Speaker 1: It got to a point where I lost all hope.
Speaker 1: I had no hope anymore, and I lost every battle
Speaker 1: before they even began. The way I got to know
Speaker 1: Tate was just as miraculous, If I might say, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of success gurus and motivational speakers out there,
Speaker 1: But the first time I saw and Andrew tate clip,
Speaker 1: something immediately clicked. I don't know what it is. I
Speaker 1: got drawn to him instantly. The cobra had snapped its victim.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know that one hurts. That hurt
Speaker 1: to read from that. From that first clip, I immediately
Speaker 1: searched him on YouTube, and surprise, surprise, he had his
Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. I watched each video down to the
Speaker 1: last bit. His speeches just stripped me of ballbne that
Speaker 1: it's horrible, So that's so horrible. His speeches just stripped
Speaker 1: me of all the victim coat mentality. Until I saw
Speaker 1: myself in my true form again, before I swore never
Speaker 1: to reveal again. I was there, all of my losses
Speaker 1: flooding my mind, teasing me of how much a loser
Speaker 1: I still was and still am. It was ruthless, but
Speaker 1: Taint went ahead and said this one thing, one thing
Speaker 1: that makes the difference. He said, but you can have everything,
Speaker 1: everything you've ever wanted. It's a matter of how bad
Speaker 1: do you want it. And from that moment it was
Speaker 1: my first time to see the light. And then he
Speaker 1: added this, I will show you the way, will you listen?
Speaker 1: That got me started on my path. I borrowed the
Speaker 1: cash in an ATM to pay for Hustler's University. I
Speaker 1: really wanted it, I really really wanted it, and I enrolled.
Speaker 1: Don't even get me started on Hustler's University. The content,
Speaker 1: the professors, the students, and the mindset change that hit
Speaker 1: you as astronomical. I would literally go broke just to
Speaker 1: remain in Hustler's University. It's more than just what you
Speaker 1: see every day. You get to see sixty thousand brothers
Speaker 1: hustle and grind with one aim money.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is written by Andrew Tait. He made it
Speaker 3: a count he it reminds himself.
Speaker 1: It might be, but he's got a lot of like, god, wait,
Speaker 1: this is so and everybody's half of these responses are
Speaker 1: making fun of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like the people that like actually worship him.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's culty. No, it's for sure culty.
Speaker 2: But it's also just like it's sad. It's sad in
Speaker 2: a way. Yeah. And there's so and there's still so
Speaker 2: many Yeah, because they want.
Speaker 3: To connect with someone so so deeply and so badly.
Speaker 3: It's just like they missed the opportunity to connect with
Speaker 3: someone that's actually like worth their time and so yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's someone that would help them actually
Speaker 3: improve as a human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's this idea that like, and again, I
Speaker 1: think this goes back to what's incredible. One of the
Speaker 1: things that's incredibly toxic about what Tate is trying to
Speaker 1: push here, this idea that like everything is competition. The
Speaker 1: only real way to like prove your mastery is by
Speaker 1: either acquiring women or by acquiring money, and you're you're
Speaker 1: fighting with everybody except for these people you to hang
Speaker 1: out with, right, Like that is a recipe. I don't
Speaker 1: mean this. I'm not trying to like say this lightly.
Speaker 1: That's a recipe for suicide. Like that is the end
Speaker 1: result of thinking that way. You either get out of
Speaker 1: that thoughts or like, because it's deeply, profoundly toxic.
Speaker 3: To capitalize on that is so so monstrous, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, To capitalize on that feeling of like
Speaker 3: isolating people and being like this has the potential to
Speaker 3: to destroy people. I feel like that is so so evil.
Speaker 1: It's it's very evil. It's very like America too, right,
Speaker 1: because this is I was just I was watching a
Speaker 1: documentary last night about it was like a YouTube documentary
Speaker 1: about Tony Robbins and Robin's is was it? At one
Speaker 1: point kind of the more mass media acceptable version of
Speaker 1: Andrew tait I. At this point, Tates might be a
Speaker 1: bigger name, but they both have a lot in common,
Speaker 1: including this, Like one of things Robins would do is like,
Speaker 1: you know, attack women who came on and talked about
Speaker 1: like the fact that they were suicidalists. Like he would
Speaker 1: always accuse him of like using suicide as a weapon
Speaker 1: against the man they were in a relationship with, Whereas
Speaker 1: if like a man came on and expressed suicidal thoughts,
Speaker 1: he would he would show this kind of like sympathy
Speaker 1: towards them and stuff like there's these weird there's these
Speaker 1: weird trends that are like ever present across these these grifters.
Speaker 1: And like, ultimately the big thing that like the guys
Speaker 1: like Tate and Robins are pushing is this idea of
Speaker 1: like masculine mastery and female submission being kind of the
Speaker 1: cornerstone of happiness.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I it's it's deeply like it. One of the
Speaker 1: things that it does that I think is so heartbreaking
Speaker 1: is it kind of like removes the possibility for identification
Speaker 1: with other human beings on any kind of meaningful emotional level,
Speaker 1: which is, as a cult leader, by the way, what
Speaker 1: you want you don't want members of your cult to
Speaker 1: be able to connect emotionally with anybody else. Right in
Speaker 1: an independent of you, because that's how you make your money.
Speaker 1: Is there is their fundamental brokenness, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: how a huge amount of the American economy works, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's all grifts and cons all the way down.
Speaker 1: Andrew Tate is just better at it than most people.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean fundamental brokenness. That was the whole That
Speaker 3: was good, good poetry that you just said right there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's heartbreaking because you're right, it's uh.
Speaker 1: Damn speaking of heartbreaking. Oh well, yes, yes, we're going
Speaker 1: to move on to Andrew Tate's twenty twenty two book.
Speaker 3: But I thought that was your segue to to what
Speaker 3: do you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but first, but first check out these Andrew Tait
Speaker 1: approved products.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, oh should.
Speaker 1: I not do that, Sovie. I'm just trying to make
Speaker 1: us some money here.
Speaker 2: You should absolutely not do that, especially especially if it's
Speaker 2: those baked in ones. We have to do soon.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's okay. Eventually he'll get out of prison
Speaker 1: and then then we can. Then we can, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can collab, we can finally do a podcast together. No,
Speaker 1: here's ads Ah, we're back. So the book that we're
Speaker 1: going to be reading for the rest of our episode
Speaker 1: today is called The Tate Bible. It was published in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and was written by Andrew Tait and
Speaker 1: someone named G. Slim.
Speaker 3: Who the fuck is Slim?
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was a gangster rapper named G.
Speaker 1: Slim with two ms from New Orleans, but he died
Speaker 1: in October of nineteen ninety six when he was shot
Speaker 1: by several people. So I don't think it's this G Slim.
Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely to be the G. Slim who
Speaker 1: died in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 3: Oh, this, LIKEE came out very like some of Yeah,
Speaker 3: this came out last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So I think it's unlikely. And
Speaker 1: the only other G. Slim searches that I'm getting immediately
Speaker 1: on my search engine are for vaporizers. So he either
Speaker 1: wrote this with a dead man or a vape, which
Speaker 1: actually really fits for Andrew Tape to be entirely honest.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh I no, I got an email for.
Speaker 3: I did the mistake of skimming through some Amazon reviews
Speaker 3: and now I want to die.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what are you seeing? What's what's making you
Speaker 1: feel so bad?
Speaker 3: Most of them are five stars.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. So we're reading a good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. The ones that are three stars are even
Speaker 3: about the book being bad. But this is what a
Speaker 3: three star one sounds like. The book. I love the book.
Speaker 3: I love but when Amazon shipped it, they threw it
Speaker 3: in a box with the other items I got and
Speaker 3: it got bent up really bad. That irritates me.
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, I hope he has learned how
Speaker 1: to anyway, So I did not ask it for their boyfriend. No, listen, folks,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. I did not pay
Speaker 1: for this. I found a free pdf posted online. The
Speaker 1: pdf is watermarked from a Telegram channel called get Seduction Bible.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is authorized or if this
Speaker 1: is illegal, and I don't really care because I'm number one.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're covered by failures used to here
Speaker 1: and number two Andrew Tatus in a Romanian prison, so
Speaker 1: I think his legal hands are tied at the moment
Speaker 1: either way. It opens after the you know, the chapter
Speaker 1: listing and stuff. It opens with I'm so sorry, Scharen,
Speaker 1: I actually brace yourself here, dear friend.
Speaker 3: You still have my heart always, Yes, it is left
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: It opens with the Tate's prayer.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, it is person to get away
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: I can never tell quite with this guy how much
Speaker 1: of it is supposed to be a joke, because there's
Speaker 1: two questions, right, what of it does he mean as
Speaker 1: a joke and what is like just narcissistic delusion? And
Speaker 1: then the other question is like, what of it do
Speaker 1: his that is a joke is realized by his fans
Speaker 1: to be a joke, And it's impossible to tell. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the Tates prayer for you should read
Speaker 1: because I know you need more religion in your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so our Tate who aren't in Bucharest. He's sure is
Speaker 1: because he's in prison there Andrew b thy name, thy
Speaker 1: Kingdom come through Camon fun Oh online, Oh man, oh god,
Speaker 1: Oh that really that. I felt like my bile kurdle
Speaker 1: in my guts.
Speaker 3: I feel like you cursed everyone.
Speaker 1: I know this. I feel like I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: what's your name in the Mummy movie? Reading from the
Speaker 1: Book of the Dead, I'm unleash a terrible curse. Started
Speaker 1: to read and I hear the wind whistling through the
Speaker 1: howl of demons, barely contained. But then I continue reading.
Speaker 1: My Kingdom come through cam and fun online as it
Speaker 1: is on the blockchain. Give us this day our daily vodka,
Speaker 1: and forgive those the ship munchers for their trespasses against us.
Speaker 1: Lead us to women for temptation, and deliver us unto
Speaker 1: our dominoes. For his is the Lambeau, the McLaren and
Speaker 1: Ferrari forever with Tristan. That's his brother. A men, Wow,
Speaker 1: A bunch of breads. Wow, wow, Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: have to. I have to, Sophie, let me screen share.
Speaker 1: You need to see the photo that comes right after
Speaker 1: the Tates prayer.
Speaker 2: Do I do?
Speaker 3: I do I have?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, this is this is necessary. I'm afraid this is
Speaker 1: like morally please here we go.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's a I'm guessing what used to
Speaker 1: be like a drawing of Jesus surrounded by five young
Speaker 1: women who look suspiciously Mormon, but Andrew Tate's face has
Speaker 1: been photo shopowing to.
Speaker 2: Fact check you, there are only four women in that
Speaker 2: photo for.
Speaker 3: Women, Sorry, concerned, I do you. They each have a
Speaker 3: different hair color, which is just fun.
Speaker 1: The flower in his hand is also.
Speaker 2: Uh maybe yes, there's a zoom button at the top.
Speaker 1: Middle middle Sovie, Sylvie, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he has sunglasses on always, of.
Speaker 1: Course, yeah, he's always got his sunglasses on.
Speaker 2: This is so what are they holding roses? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Those look like roses.
Speaker 2: And like chalices.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't say chalices at any rate. So obsessed,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very, very unsettling how this book came
Speaker 1: to be Disclaimer. During the first COVID lockdown in the UK,
Speaker 1: I was sat around scrolling through Twitter. I had never
Speaker 1: seen nor heard of Andrew Tate before, but someone I
Speaker 1: follow must have reach tweeted him. I remember reading the
Speaker 1: tweet and laughing at it. So I went to his
Speaker 1: of wu DN Twitter profile and had to look through
Speaker 1: the posts. It was incredible. Who the fuck was this guy?
Speaker 1: Was he for real or was it a parody account?
Speaker 1: For the next hour, I did nothing but scroll through
Speaker 1: his tweets. Jesus, and these weren't just singular tweets like
Speaker 1: your average person posts, but long threads that I got
Speaker 1: lost in. They flew from subject to subject, dropping controversy, humor,
Speaker 1: and pearls of wisdom alike. I won't lie to you.
Speaker 1: I genuinely still thought it was a parody account. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe anyone actually thought like this. Surely it was
Speaker 1: a wind up.
Speaker 3: Wait, what are you reading from now?
Speaker 1: This is the intro to the book. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: I closed Twitter and went about my day. But the
Speaker 1: thing was, I couldn't stop thinking about it. At the
Speaker 1: back of my mind or realization had started. I thought
Speaker 1: that actually this guy was the real deal. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a joke, it wasn't some prankster trolling everyone. So the
Speaker 1: next day I found his YouTube channel and fell down
Speaker 1: the biggest fucking rabbit hole in existence. Tate Speech, the
Speaker 1: Hateful Tates, the war Room, Tate Confidential, God damn it.
Speaker 1: Over the next few months, during lockdown, I would dip
Speaker 1: in and out of all this content, and on this
Speaker 1: joy of discovery, I noticed one thing kept popping up
Speaker 1: into comments. Tate, you should write a book. Several times
Speaker 1: I saw this, and when he bought it to reply,
Speaker 1: Andrew would scornfully say the same thing. I ain't got
Speaker 1: time to write a book. I'm too busy driving a
Speaker 1: McLaren through the Alps. You can't argue with that. He's
Speaker 1: not doing that no more. He's not doing that no more.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. I find it compelling that
Speaker 1: like at least valuable data that like this weirdo who
Speaker 1: wrote g Slim, who wrote the Tate Bible with Andrew,
Speaker 1: fell into this rabbit hole during the pandemic when he
Speaker 1: was alone at home. Like we know intellectually, that's how
Speaker 1: a lot of this, the stuff that's metastasized now started.
Speaker 1: But it's it's at least useful to get another fucking
Speaker 1: piece of of date of data on that I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue. I decided right then and there that I
Speaker 1: was going to write the book. I needed to be
Speaker 1: in this man's life, Jesus Christ. I needed to be
Speaker 1: in the war room. I needed to change my life.
Speaker 1: I needed a fucking all caps lambeaux exclamation point, exclamation point,
Speaker 1: exclamation point. Let's do it also in all caps with
Speaker 1: three exclamation points. And then in the next days nothing,
Speaker 1: that little doubting voice that tells you you'll never be
Speaker 1: able to do it appears in your head. It took
Speaker 1: me weeks of questioning myself to even get started, and
Speaker 1: even then I stopped halfway through and thought long and
Speaker 1: hard about whether I should continue. But am I going
Speaker 1: to be a loser? Am I going to fail to
Speaker 1: follow through? After all, what's the worst that can happen?
Speaker 1: He might tell me to fuck off, and I realize
Speaker 1: I've wasted my time. But I can handle that. What
Speaker 1: I can't handle is always thinking what might have happened
Speaker 1: if I'd finished and it all works out. What if
Speaker 1: a year later someone else does it and it's a
Speaker 1: huge success. Good news? It was not. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: decided I would complete the book in total secrecy and
Speaker 1: then get a physical paperback printed to gift to him. This,
Speaker 1: I hoped would get the Seal of approval. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So this guy just watches all of Andrew's videos over
Speaker 1: and over again and transcribes them. These are transcriptions of
Speaker 1: Andrew Tait videos.
Speaker 3: Listen. The thing is, I don't believe anything this book says,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, I don't really think.
Speaker 1: G Slim.
Speaker 3: No, I don't fucking trust G Slim.
Speaker 1: Wow, Charen, that's pretty offensive. G Slim died in a
Speaker 1: gunfight in nineteen ninety six for you, and then came
Speaker 1: back to write this book and back that's what I assume.
Speaker 2: This is like, so insufferable. Continue, Oh man, how many
Speaker 2: pages is this book?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot Charene. It's a lot. There's no
Speaker 1: page Oh wait, no, there are page numbers. Let me
Speaker 1: scroll down and see if I can answer that for you.
Speaker 3: Too many, too many pages. You're completely correct.
Speaker 1: Okay, only some of the pages have page numbers, but
Speaker 1: there's at least two hundred and eighty three of them.
Speaker 3: That's that's a lot of fucking.
Speaker 1: That's way too many pages.
Speaker 3: That's way too many. That's way too many.
Speaker 1: That is like a heartbreaking number of pages. First off,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, and it's it's going to
Speaker 1: sound mean, but this man is already dead inside g
Speaker 1: Slim like he's he's he's passed on years ago in
Speaker 1: his soul, like there's nothing left but a whisper and
Speaker 1: a ghost and the knowledge that he's fucking wrote a
Speaker 1: book about Andrew Tait that is by Andrew Tait, that
Speaker 1: Andrew Tait never saw.
Speaker 3: I mean, you think that's me that I don't think
Speaker 3: this person exists. So we have two deposing views here.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't think G Slim is real?
Speaker 3: I don't think this is Like, I just I can't
Speaker 3: trust anything that Andrew Tate is involved with. I really don't.
Speaker 3: It all sounds like someone's own fantasy of like being famous.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, he is famous. Unfortunately, a lot of
Speaker 1: it was like he didn't have nearly as much money
Speaker 1: as he pretended to. Like he like one of the
Speaker 1: funny things about Andrew. So he's got this, He's got
Speaker 1: his big hustler's university, which is the place you pay
Speaker 1: like fifty bucks a month for, and then he's got
Speaker 1: the war Room, which you pay five thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: be a member of, and it gets you into all
Speaker 1: these discord chats with his you know, he framed it
Speaker 1: as like this is the most powerful secret society on earth.
Speaker 1: I've got men in every government and like people who
Speaker 1: will show up in any country if I need them.
Speaker 1: I can solve any problem with this. Like if you
Speaker 1: fuck with me, you know this powerful Candra, he gets arrested,
Speaker 1: nobody does shit right because it was all a bunch
Speaker 1: of marks who paid five grand to be in a
Speaker 1: discord chat with Andrew Tate. So to that extent, like, yes,
Speaker 1: it is all lies and smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 3: I think when I just realized the difference, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is where this is the landing point. Yeah, go on,
Speaker 3: you believe it because you understand that people like this
Speaker 3: exist in the world, and I'm just in denial, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'm in denial that someone could
Speaker 3: actually do this.
Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in the manosphere, you know,
Speaker 1: following since years before Andrew Tate, following, you know, reading
Speaker 1: blogs like we Hunted the Mammoth and just like going
Speaker 1: in myself and reading conversations. And I think the most
Speaker 1: durable lesson I've learned is that if something sounds like
Speaker 1: the most depressing, sad thing that could ever possibly exist
Speaker 1: in you're one wondering if it's real. Yes, it is. So.
Speaker 1: I do believe that a guy spent his pandemic rewatching
Speaker 1: Andrew Tait videos, then wrote a book and asked Andrew
Speaker 1: for his approval to sell it and give Andrew the money.
Speaker 1: I do believe that occur.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've kind of convinced me right now too,
Speaker 3: because I people like that definitely exist. Unfortunately, yes, despite
Speaker 3: my own wishes.
Speaker 1: It's all heartbreaking, but we should probably just soldier through
Speaker 1: to the first chapter of Tate's Wisdom, The Truth About
Speaker 1: Your Ego. We're going to be talking about ego and
Speaker 1: why it's super important that you have an ego. In fact,
Speaker 1: the biggest worms I've met in my life are people
Speaker 1: who don't have egos. If you don't have an ego,
Speaker 1: you don't care about how you're perceived. And there's not
Speaker 1: only how you're perceived by others, but you also don't
Speaker 1: care about how you perceive yourself. If you're going to
Speaker 1: become morbidly obese, you don't have an ego. You can't
Speaker 1: have an ego and become a morbidly obese person. Now,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people get confused because they're
Speaker 1: two types of egos. You've got people who have egos
Speaker 1: that don't deserve iteople who have egos who have earned
Speaker 1: it and justified it. That's okay, I mean, for one thing,
Speaker 1: like he's transposing like the actual like psychological concept of
Speaker 1: an ego with just thinking you're hot shit right, Like
Speaker 1: that's clearly what it means. But also just like I
Speaker 1: don't know if if you're actually because Andrew talks a
Speaker 1: lot about like aestheticism, and you know, these kind of
Speaker 1: like stoic virtues, and hearkens back to these Greek philosophers
Speaker 1: and these kind of Chinese philosophers. All of them would
Speaker 1: have said the same thing about ego, which is that
Speaker 1: like you have to conquer, you're like, like, caring about
Speaker 1: what other people think is not a path towards power.
Speaker 1: It's maybe a path that gets you arrested by the
Speaker 1: Romanian authorities because your ego made you brag about your
Speaker 1: criminal sex trafficking operation. That's what I might say. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny. All right, So this, this whole rant is
Speaker 1: about his concept of ego. Let's go down to the
Speaker 1: next section. It's titled It's.
Speaker 3: So funny when people misunderstand what that word means. Entirely though,
Speaker 3: I think that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's also just like people have egos about
Speaker 1: different things. There are people who don't care about their
Speaker 1: physical appearance but care deeply about how they are perceived mentally,
Speaker 1: or about you know, how people like their music or whatever.
Speaker 1: Like that's not anyway. All of this is silly. Everything
Speaker 1: he says is silly. Here's his next chapter. Do girls
Speaker 1: Love Money? A lot of people say girls love money,
Speaker 1: and that's not entirely true. They think that if you
Speaker 1: have money, you're gonna get girls, but it's incorrect. I
Speaker 1: know loads of very rich men who don't have girls,
Speaker 1: And I know loads of old, fat, ugly rich guys
Speaker 1: who are desperately trying to throw money at girls, and
Speaker 1: these girls won't fuck them because they don't really care
Speaker 1: about money. Girls like the trappings of money without seeing
Speaker 1: the actual money. A girl doesn't want you to sit
Speaker 1: there and say you earn this much, that you have this.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. What they want is a
Speaker 1: black Mercedes to pick them up from their house and
Speaker 1: take them to the restaurant. Now, this is funny, Sharene,
Speaker 1: because we know from information it's come out since his
Speaker 1: arrest that one of Andrew's hobbies was to find girls
Speaker 1: in Romania, like children, like high school girls on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and they repeatedly hit on them and offer to pick
Speaker 1: them up in his black Mercedes. And we have like
Speaker 1: they nearly always said like no, you're a creep and
Speaker 1: a weirdo. He just did it so often that he
Speaker 1: would find, you know, a few people to victimize like that.
Speaker 1: That was his actual flirtation strategy. Good stuff, good stuff.
Speaker 3: Just trying to just probability wise, trying to hack the system,
Speaker 3: just like if I do the times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what all these guys do, right, Like it's
Speaker 1: all about if you I mean, yeah, if you are, like,
Speaker 1: there's so many people in the world that if you
Speaker 1: just constantly hit on every woman that you see, someone
Speaker 1: will want to pick up what you're putting down, right,
Speaker 1: And they they kind of take that very basic fact
Speaker 1: and then and the fact that they're also like mentally
Speaker 1: abusing children in a lot of cases who don't have
Speaker 1: as much judgment or even the kind of like formalized
Speaker 1: ideas of what they like as.
Speaker 3: People, even like their entire brain function or.
Speaker 1: Whatever, exactly exactly, and they transposed that to their fans
Speaker 1: as like these are the hacks for getting women, and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, no, you're just being like a weird,
Speaker 1: sad creep and ninety nine percent of the people you
Speaker 1: talk to think you're gross, And then you're conning a
Speaker 1: bunch of dumb young men into believing that, like this
Speaker 1: is the trick to being James Bond, Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Like I feel like I don't know, I forget
Speaker 3: what his name is because it's irrelevant and stupid. But
Speaker 3: when I was in high school, there was like a
Speaker 3: pick up artist that was like the same kind of
Speaker 3: vibe that Andertait is, but like he was like he
Speaker 3: like introduced the word like nagging, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, like that, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: That is and he was also bald. I'm pretty sure. Uh,
Speaker 3: but I don't know what's what that's about. Not bad
Speaker 3: by choice, I guess, yeah, but uh it's interesting to think,
Speaker 3: like would would that have happened if the internet was
Speaker 3: like it is now? Or do people like this just
Speaker 3: like this? Does there always have to be someone that
Speaker 3: these like vulnerable young people are subject to, Like it,
Speaker 3: it's really because they're not new ideas, they're just like
Speaker 3: recycled and said in different ways.
Speaker 1: No, they're not new, and this kind of guy isn't new, right, Like,
Speaker 1: if you even want to go back to the turn
Speaker 1: of the last century, a lot of the early kind
Speaker 1: of people who guys like Gabrielle d Nunzio, who like
Speaker 1: became fascists and led to the early stages of that movement,
Speaker 1: were like masculinity influencers, right there was and it was
Speaker 1: because you had this, you know, you know, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of room for purchase for these guys in
Speaker 1: an era in which like most men are working in
Speaker 1: like a farm or something, or like even in a factory.
Speaker 1: But once you start getting like a lot of white
Speaker 1: collar jobs where people are like sitting down and filing
Speaker 1: paperwork all day, it's easy to number one that's not
Speaker 1: often very rewarding work, and it's easy to convince a
Speaker 1: chunk of the people doing that job that like, oh,
Speaker 1: in the past, you would have been a viking, and
Speaker 1: you know, you would have had a beautiful woman on
Speaker 1: your arm and lots of booty, and you know you'd
Speaker 1: be fighting all the time and getting this anger that's
Speaker 1: deep inside you out. And I think for at least
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty years or so, it's been
Speaker 1: a pretty profitable thing to mine that vein of insecurity
Speaker 1: that a chunk of the male population, particularly in the
Speaker 1: middle class, is going to have. TAIT is kind of
Speaker 1: an evolved form of.
Speaker 3: That, but yeah, totally. I mean hand in hand in
Speaker 3: that unfortunately, is always like objectifying and women and like
Speaker 3: not even just not even just objectifying like sexually, but
Speaker 3: like making them objects.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, because for one thing, like if the
Speaker 1: primary lever that you're pulling is the insecurity of your audience,
Speaker 1: nothing makes the kind of men who are vulnerable to
Speaker 1: TATE insecure, Like the idea that a woman they're into
Speaker 1: has like a life and the freedom of her own
Speaker 1: to like not want to hang out with you if
Speaker 1: you're being like a weird, gross creep, and people that.
Speaker 3: Like what there was a there was a shooter, like
Speaker 3: a mass shooter that had that mentality of like these
Speaker 3: these girls rejected him, and so he got.
Speaker 2: You Elliott, Yeah from Santa Bora.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yes, but like he was someone that thought
Speaker 3: all those things and had access to a firearm and
Speaker 3: the desire to do that, like imagine, it's just it's
Speaker 3: just a recipe for disaster, like it's you mentioned, it's
Speaker 3: like a recipe for suicide. It's like that. And also
Speaker 3: just like general like death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's all death cults all
Speaker 1: the way down. But you know what's not a death cult?
Speaker 1: Charine Blue Apron. That's right, Blue Apron is not a
Speaker 1: death cult. That's the one guarantee Blue Apron makes. Uh.
Speaker 1: They are no longer a death cult. Currently not a
Speaker 1: death cult. Blue Apron. Oh we're back boy. I love
Speaker 1: those Blue Apron ads. They're certainly not a death cult.
Speaker 2: Please please, please, don't thank you.
Speaker 3: That's the end of that.
Speaker 2: What Please don't be serious. Please don't message us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you saying they are a death cult, Sophie,
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to tell people that they're not.
Speaker 2: Saying please, please please.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is the most positive things I've heard, Robert saying, yeah,
Speaker 3: Blue Apron.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I've turned I've turned the corner. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with our tap bible if we must. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something about having a Lamborghini. It's two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to buy, ten thousand dollars a year
Speaker 1: to service, eleven thousand dollars a year in insurance. Forget
Speaker 1: that I've replaced the windscreen twice this year from stone Chips,
Speaker 1: which is another ten thousand dollars. Forget the miscellaneous costs.
Speaker 1: It's about three to four hundred thousand dollars I spent
Speaker 1: so far on a car that has no guarantee of
Speaker 1: getting girls. But what does it do is if I
Speaker 1: pull up outside of a nightclub or a high school
Speaker 1: in my Lamborghini, then girls. He doesn't say that, but
Speaker 1: that's what he does. Then girls look at me and think, well,
Speaker 1: I don't see that kind of car very often. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Who is he how does he afford a Lamborghini. If
Speaker 1: I continue to talk to a girl, I have about
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty seconds to say something interesting and continue
Speaker 1: to be an interesting person, Otherwise I'm going to lose her.
Speaker 1: What it does is it facilitates an opener. It gets
Speaker 1: a tiny bit of interest, but it's still my job
Speaker 1: to finish the interest off. If I'm a boring content.
Speaker 1: She asks, how did you get a Lambeau? And I
Speaker 1: sit there and go, well, the Lamborghini has a V
Speaker 1: ten five point two liter engine. She doesn't give a
Speaker 1: fuck about the fucking engine in the car. If a
Speaker 1: girl sees your Lamborghini, it gives you an opener. It's
Speaker 1: interesting because it's all about like, it's not about actually
Speaker 1: being an interesting person or like being appealing. It's about
Speaker 1: having these devices that make you look interesting, which is
Speaker 1: always the uh oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 3: No, you don't have to get a personality or be
Speaker 3: nice or anything. You should have to have objects to
Speaker 3: distract people with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then there's this baffling line. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: if what you get if you buy a Lamborghini. The
Speaker 1: only people who genuinely adore you when you have a
Speaker 1: Lamborghini are ten year old boys. They see a drive
Speaker 1: past in their eyes light up and they start waving
Speaker 1: their hands and they'll do anything to get in your car.
Speaker 1: So unless you're a pedophile, there's no point in buying
Speaker 1: a Lamborghini to get pussy. Now. What's interesting to me
Speaker 1: about this is that like he's right about that, and
Speaker 1: that he's saying a truth about his business, which is
Speaker 1: that the only people who are impressed by a guy
Speaker 1: bragging about his Lamborghini are our young children. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's his audience, That's who he is trying to That's
Speaker 1: why all these schools are trying to de radicalize kids
Speaker 1: from Tate is because and he knows it. He knows that,
Speaker 1: like the only thing that is the only people who
Speaker 1: are impressed by my act are children and people with
Speaker 1: the minds of children.
Speaker 3: Just I mean interesting that sentence was also just like heartbreaking,
Speaker 3: intense and not needed, but not surprising that it's in there.
Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, oh my god, I think it's it's
Speaker 3: sad that because because young people are so easily influenced.
Speaker 3: But like I was still kind of like scrolling through
Speaker 3: these reviews and one of these reviews is talking about
Speaker 3: how this person sent it to their son and how
Speaker 3: they like they for encouragement and in hopes of letting
Speaker 3: helping out the fire under him. How Tate is standing
Speaker 3: up against the matrix. How this is like a better
Speaker 3: way to teach little girls and boys or whatever. But
Speaker 3: like it's it's it's sad that it also has has
Speaker 3: like seeped into the minds of like parrots, and like,
Speaker 3: I don't, I just can't. I don't know. I'm kind
Speaker 3: of rambling now because these reviews are like breaking my brain.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, I just think that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The next thing is his fifty hips for being
Speaker 1: a Man, which, oh yeah, no, these are great. There's
Speaker 1: all sorts of wild shit in here, including us reject
Speaker 1: sex from a beautiful woman. The red pill dorks are
Speaker 1: desperate for sex at my level. You refuse to let
Speaker 1: a woman have you simply because she's beautiful. She has
Speaker 1: to deserve a man like me. I reject stunning women
Speaker 1: all the time. It's good for the soul. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: it is. I gotta say there's something technically impressive about
Speaker 1: turning the man influencer grift around from like I'm going
Speaker 1: to teach you how to get girls every time to
Speaker 1: like I don't even need to have sex, right, That's
Speaker 1: that's how That's how much of a stud I am
Speaker 1: is I don't even fuck a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: That is so.
Speaker 3: Interesting because you're right, the other pickup artist person, I'm
Speaker 3: thinking it was all about getting women.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that. It is interesting, and I think
Speaker 1: it's an evidence of kind of like why his grift
Speaker 1: has been successful is that he's taking a spin on,
Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that people have been doing for
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't have sex normally. That means I'm cool,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: I always have sex. Yeah, it's my choice. Yeah, which,
Speaker 1: like it's perfectly fine to not whant I have sex.
Speaker 1: It's just interesting to me that, like, his whole grift
Speaker 1: is clearly about here's how you become rich and get babes,
Speaker 1: and this is part of like how he sells it
Speaker 1: to people.
Speaker 3: I think it's because the majority of people, if you
Speaker 3: have to choose between the two options, are they're not
Speaker 3: fucking all the time, but they want to be fucking
Speaker 3: all the time, and or like they're not doing that
Speaker 3: at all. So I think he's going with the majority,
Speaker 3: being like, how can I have the most people relate
Speaker 3: to this? I can tell them that them not fucking
Speaker 3: is actually a power play.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's most of this is really boring stuff, but
Speaker 1: I got to read you. Number fifteen.
Speaker 3: Do you okay?
Speaker 1: You'll like this one? Get arrested a couple nights in jail.
Speaker 1: It's good for you. I've accumulated about two weeks across
Speaker 1: different incidences. I think that might just be the perfect amount.
Speaker 3: That you think I've ever heard of my life.
Speaker 1: Good news, Andrew, You're about to get a lot more
Speaker 1: jail experience.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did it so funny. He did it.
Speaker 3: Following his own rules. He did this to himself, like
Speaker 3: quite literally, but also just like the idea to write
Speaker 3: that down in a book or he'd say that out
Speaker 3: loud and get a transcribed or whatever the fuck this
Speaker 3: book is. It's crazy like that is it is just
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, Wow, these episodes
Speaker 3: really break my brain, and that's the goal broken, it feels, so.
Speaker 1: That's that's always the goal here at Behind the Bastards.
Speaker 1: Number twenty one. Get a loan and refuse to pay
Speaker 1: it back. Sell her transfer your assets first, or do
Speaker 1: it just before you move country cash and slaves people.
Speaker 1: It's not fair. The banks are absolute criminals, and you
Speaker 1: need to get some small retribution. They'll simply print more
Speaker 1: money fuck them. Which Like, I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with stealing from the bank, but Andrew getting a loan
Speaker 1: and then just like not paying it back has consequences
Speaker 1: for people in many cases. Okay, that that's going to
Speaker 1: come back to bite your fans. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: what he does. I think he gets loans from maybe
Speaker 1: individual people and never pays them back. But I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure anyway, whatever number twenty two become very good at stealing.
Speaker 1: I never ever order a coffee from Starbucks without stealing
Speaker 1: something from the front, right under the dickhead's nose. Never
Speaker 1: steal from small businesses, steal from the Okay, that one's fine,
Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, Yeah, that's okay, that's it. Look even
Speaker 1: a stopped clock is going to be right about shoplifting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so okay, let's move past.
Speaker 3: But he's doing it to like like he he insulted
Speaker 3: the person that doesn't catch him. He's doing it to
Speaker 3: like be like I am I'm better than you. I
Speaker 3: can get away with this. Also, it's not just about
Speaker 3: giving it to the man or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, choose a book about a story that sounds interesting,
Speaker 1: a man who's traveling around Africa, or a man who
Speaker 1: decided to sail the Mediterranean, a professional boxer, whatever, Throw
Speaker 1: the fucking book away and go do it yourself. Living
Speaker 1: is better than reading good stuff. Maybe if you had
Speaker 1: read a couple of stories about I don't know, al Capone,
Speaker 1: maybe you you wouldn't have wound up in solitary confinement,
Speaker 1: going crazy fighting ghosts. Good stuff, good stuff. Uh, all right, well,
Speaker 1: let's let's move along. So it's just all shit like this,
Speaker 1: all this, all this, lots of there's transcripts of him
Speaker 1: talking on podcasts. My god, what kind of sad people,
Speaker 1: what kind of sad man turns this into a book?
Speaker 3: You can you can make a book too, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, somebody, somebody turn all of my great
Speaker 1: wisdom on my podcast appearances. Uh into a book.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Uh.
Speaker 3: Anything can be a book. Anything can be a book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything can be a book. So I've scrolled down
Speaker 1: to the bottom here and I was going to just
Speaker 1: read you the last page, but then I came across
Speaker 1: this A lot of men take all the frames I
Speaker 1: used in my webcam business and apply it to their marriage,
Speaker 1: and they say their marriage is never been better. It's
Speaker 1: amazing but unsurprising because women are women and men are men.
Speaker 1: But all in all, I genuinely want the best for everybody,
Speaker 1: and I look forward to speaking to a feminist. I
Speaker 1: hope I can deprogram her and she can get her
Speaker 1: ass married, have some kids, make her man at dinner,
Speaker 1: and finally become a good woman and stop talking shit.
Speaker 1: So I look forward to talking with a feminist and
Speaker 1: I'll fix her brain, no problem.
Speaker 2: I'll fix her brain. No wow.
Speaker 3: Also, if someoneist can do all those things, just like
Speaker 3: heads up, she can't get married and have fucking kids
Speaker 3: or whatever the shit?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, so I don't know. That's probably all
Speaker 1: of the Tate Bible we need to go through today.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you learned something, Charene.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I genuinely learned that I shouldn't
Speaker 3: be in denial of the things that freak me out
Speaker 3: and like I don't want to believe because people like
Speaker 3: this exist and it's better to be aware of them
Speaker 3: existing in the world versus not be aware of that
Speaker 3: and then I don't know. Yeah, it's a genuine lesson
Speaker 3: I've learned today.
Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. But uh, people like this are real. Uh
Speaker 1: in some sense, you know, we can what is real?
Speaker 1: What is reality?
Speaker 3: The matrix? Did did it work? Did read his book worked?
Speaker 1: I think that we've all escaped the matrix in our
Speaker 1: own way today, and uh, and now we know I
Speaker 1: don't know what what what? What? What? What is escaping
Speaker 1: the matrix? If not getting paid to talk on a
Speaker 1: microphone in your underpants? Right, we've broken the matrix. And
Speaker 1: if you send, if you send Sharena and I five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, we will put you in a discord chat
Speaker 1: with everyone else who paid us five thousand dollars, and
Speaker 1: we will pretend that we're going to show up in
Speaker 1: that discord chat and talk to you occasionally.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's tempting the way you say it in words.
Speaker 2: And now what's my cut? Yeah, Sophie U, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: need at least for wow Wow? Can I need manager?
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Sure, Scharene, we might have to go to
Speaker 1: war here.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is all, it's all or nothing. We
Speaker 3: have double the charge ten thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Yeah, let's make a ten k. Let's
Speaker 1: make it ten.
Speaker 3: That'll be fine you.
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Well well uh well well we're going to
Speaker 1: deal with all this offline. But everybody, if you mail
Speaker 1: five or ten thousand dollars to us, eventually we'll figure
Speaker 1: out how to split it up. I can promise you that, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, everybody, you gotta plug anything.
Speaker 3: I have a podcast as well. It's called Ethnically Ambiguous,
Speaker 3: if you guys want to check it out. I just
Speaker 3: made this little short film called how Can I Be
Speaker 3: Present When Photographs Exist? It's like this little it's just
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a window into my brain recently.
Speaker 3: If you guys have any curiosity about what that is,
Speaker 3: but I think that's it. You can follow me on
Speaker 3: social media if you want to.
Speaker 2: What are your handles?
Speaker 3: Oh right, Uh Instagram is Shiro Hero and uh Twitter
Speaker 3: is Shiro Hero sixty sixty six. I do want to
Speaker 3: point out because I know the word Shiro is like
Speaker 3: some people use it as like the female version of Hero.
Speaker 3: That is not That is not my name. It's a
Speaker 3: nickname that I have my whole life from my family.
Speaker 2: It's your name.
Speaker 3: And so I want everyone out there to know. That's
Speaker 3: not why I chose that name. It's my name.
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of using Shiro for Hero because
Speaker 1: Hero is not a gendered name. I know, like hero,
Speaker 1: the term hero does not apply masculine, imply masculine or feminine.
Speaker 3: I think it seems unnecessary sound that way.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, it's like when people like try
Speaker 1: to de gender the term folks by spelling it fols.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Folks does not imply gender exactly. Why are we doing Yes,
Speaker 1: it's fine as it is. Yeah, yeah, it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: adding an X to y'all, it's like, no, we're good. No,
Speaker 1: one's good. No, No, I don't know one's done that.
Speaker 1: They will now, they will. Now, let's make that be
Speaker 1: an our fans thing. Yeah, all right, everybody go to hell.
Speaker 1: I love you, see you there.
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