1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Robert here. The episode you are about to 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: listen to is me and Scherene lani Yunis and Sophie, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: our producer extraordinaire, going through some of Andrew Tate's writings, 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: particularly a book of his Collected Wisdom and some of 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: these weird kung fu stories that he's written. It's all 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: fucked up and terrible. We recorded this when he was 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: still incarcerated in solitary confinement. He has now been released 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: to house arrest. So in the episode, whenever we talk 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: about him being in a Romanian jail, just replace that 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: with the phrase house arrest in your head and it'll 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: be like we edited it ourselves. Welcome to the Manosphere 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: Man Cast with Chunt Grunt Punch. We're here today to 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: talk about all of my tips and tricks for picking 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: up high value ladies. First off, though, I want to 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: introduce my guests for today, my co hosts on the 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: Man Cast, Scherene lani Unis and Sophie Lichterman. How are 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: y'all doing? 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Robert, you won't ever do that in our presence again? 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: Are you ready for the man Cast? 20 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: Doing it for the for the pod? You know? I 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: understand why he chose. I understand. It doesn't mean I 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: like it, but I understand it. 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: It's it's called maybe we should have called it the 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: grunt Cast. But yeah, I think it's a good idea. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: I think this is what we should pivot to doing, Sophie, 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: because it is apparently the easiest way to make money 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: in the world. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: You repulsed me, and I did not enjoy that, Sophie. 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: All we gotta do. We got to fuck up the 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: heads of like ten or fifteen million, like teenage boys, 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: and then we retire. 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Or easy or you get the easy or you could 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: throw it into jail in Romina. 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Well we won't. We won't go to Romania, Sophie. I mean, 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: come on, I Andrew Tate. 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: Why not? 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: Well, well, it's a great place to go if you 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: are not operating a massive sex trafficking ring and bragging 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: that the Romanian government won't arrest you. 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't. You should avoid Romania. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: If that's the case, You should avoid most places. If 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: that's the case. This is a book episode. You all 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: know what a book episode is, uh, Scharene. We've been 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: we've been struggling to find a new book for our 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: book episodes for a while now, and I think I 46 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: may have landed on it. 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: We're actually going to be covering two books today and 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: both of them are written by friend of the Pod, 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Taate. 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: Friend of the Pod. I was on here for Stephen 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: Sigal's book, right. 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: You were on here for Steven Sagal's terrible, terrible book. 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: Wrote all that fucking cover. The cover, I just remember 55 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: the cover. 56 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: The cover was was a choice. 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: This book has a better cover, not a good cover, 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: but a but a better cover. Is like, well, the 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: first book we're talking about by Andrew Tait is his 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: Tales of Woodawn, which is is Wudon is like a 61 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: mountain in China and the kind of two big schools 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: of Chinese martial arts, like one of them is named 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: after Wudon because I guess it's just kind of like 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: where it originated. But Andrew Tait, despite being kind of 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a you know, mediocre kickboxer, is is very married to 66 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: the idea of being like a like a monastic warrior thing, 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: which which is, yeah, go to I want you to 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: go to the Cobra Tate. That's his website's name, Tails 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: of bud On page to take a look at this thing. 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: When I say it's a better cover than the Stephen 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Sigal book, that's that's not praise. So it opens up. 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: With just like a gift of him, basically like smoking 73 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: a cigar. It's like a fucking. 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Parody of what much everything he does is. So it's 75 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: there's like a drawing of him that it's weird because 76 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: the the art style is like a mix of kind 77 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: of vaguely competent sort of Asian landscapes, but then the 78 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: illustrations of like Andrew Tate as a as a fucking 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: kung fu master. It almost looks like a political cartoon 80 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: of him. Like it's it's weird. It's it's a strange 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: mix of styles. But it does beat the Shadow Wold's book. 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I'll give it that, I guess, Yeah, that's the one. 83 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 3: The one good thing I guess is that it beats 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: the worst cover of all time. 85 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Now, to get this book, you have two 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: options sharene one is that you sign up for Andrew 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: Tate's mailing list and every week he'll send you a 88 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: new story from it, which fuck that, absolutely not. The 89 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 1: other is that you pay five dollars for the book, 90 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: which also fuck that. 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: Dollars too much. Yeah. 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. The third is that you scroll through I lied, 93 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: there's three. You scroll through the tales of wudon twitter page, 94 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: and apparently you get to the stories. Look, they're they're 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: boring as shit, But I am going to read one 96 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: of them for you because it's it's funny and it 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: will serve as a good introduction to andrew second book, 98 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: which we're also going to cover. 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: Just just before I exit out of this website. 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: Click X, you're gonna need to burn your laptop. 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've never been on this before, but like, do 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: you know how like some websites have like a live 103 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: chat for help option, So for this one, it pops 104 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: up immediately, like it's just on the front page, and 105 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: it says, this not just a live chat bot. This 106 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: is your chance to get personal attention from Tate's personally 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: trained special forces. 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: My god, what are they going to under walk around 109 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: alone in a jail cell. 110 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: His says, this is your chance to change your life. 111 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: Begin a conversation below, and follow the next steps. 112 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little cult he's got going online. I've 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: continued following his journey after his arrest, and like, just 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: f yi, he has like friends on the outside that 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: he sends tweets to, and they've gone from like I'm 116 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: innocent and you know, will be vindicated to talking about 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: his like jail cell workout routine and all sorts of 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: like uh. He most recently he bragged about defeating a 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: ghost in hand to hand combat. So it's it's he's 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: he's doing well, is what I'm saying. I would normally 121 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: say I wouldn't wish solitary confinement on anybody, but I 122 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: didn't know solitary confinement could be this funny. So now 123 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: like I'm morally compromised, but it is very. 124 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: Funny that on anybody. You're the for this. There are 125 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: so many shitty people. All of you should be in 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: a pit somewhere. 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair. 128 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: I have no sympathy for the I have. 129 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I have an alternate standpoint, but that's gonna. I promised, 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Sophie my New Year's resolution was not to talk about 131 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: killing people on this podcast more than one, sup quarter? Yeah, 132 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: more than one. 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: You've already wild and Q one. But okay, I know, Sophie. 134 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: You know life is a journey, okay, and some times, 135 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: you know, you. Rather than getting obsessed with your failures, 136 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: you should just celebrate the attempt. 137 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: I thought life was a highway. 138 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Well that's also that's also what life is and life 139 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: is for Andrew Tait. Life is a five thousand year 140 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: long process. Because this the introduction to his book Tales 141 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: of wood On begins in a previous life, I lived 142 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: five thousand human years atop Woodon Mountain. I remember every 143 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: lived second. 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ a big riot here. 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Life is competition. Competition is violence. In many modern forms 146 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: of competition, we have attempted to water down the violent 147 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: aspects to replicate violence in the most sanitized way. We 148 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: have full grown men growing as large and strong as 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: possible to put a ball in a net, as opposed 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: to hurting each other. It's funny that he focuses on basketball, 151 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: because football is still about men hurting each other to 152 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: the point that they destroy their brains. 153 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: It's the most dangerous sport, isn't it isn't it? 154 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, also mma, which is his sport? Like both like, yeah, 155 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: not really sanitized, but the sentiment is the same. It's 156 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: a group of men at war with each with another, 157 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: with one team being victors and the other being losers, 158 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: the largest, strongest, most beautiful tree violently crushing the surrounding saplings, 159 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: and the quest for resource. He just says resource. Every 160 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: time I see beauty, I see struggle, the struggle required 161 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: to create it. When I see myself, I know the 162 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: struggle lived to become who I am. To live as 163 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: I do, the more sophisticated my understanding of the universe's 164 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: constant state of war, the happier, more content and peaceful 165 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: I feel. You are meant to struggle. You are here 166 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: to suffer. If you do neither of these things, you 167 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: are either dead or invisible. If you want people to 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: care who you are, become familiar with pain. If you 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: do not struggle to become an exceptional man, you are 170 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: a nobody, and every female will prove to you you 171 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: may as well not exist. 172 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: The female is like the worst of the worst words 173 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: to use to describe people with volvos like. 174 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: I just it's one of the easiest ways, though, to 175 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: determine whether or not someone is like a piece of shit. 176 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: If yeah, that is, if they if they use it 177 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: in that way. 178 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: That was that was That was a long sentence you 179 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 3: just read. 180 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: It's like it's laid out as almost as if it's 181 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: a zin Cohen But it's it's not. It's just like 182 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: dog shit, uh fucking fight club ass level philosophy, but 183 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: without like the knowledge that fight club is a satire 184 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: of this kind of philosophy. Right, Yeah, they're not. 185 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: He's not evolved enough to understand that it's not that serious. 186 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: It's also very funny that he's life like, life is struggle. 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, I am like the strong oak that has 188 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: choked out the saplings beautiful at and I do this 189 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: so that girls will like me. Yeah, that is the 190 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: most pathetic. It's so sad. 191 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: How does how does he get away with being so pathetic? 192 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: And because just big fucking dork dorks are great, but 193 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: there's a certain kind of dork that he is that 194 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: is fucking pathetic. 195 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Well, it's because he's he reaching out to like thirteen 196 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: year old boys, yeah, who who are raised on like 197 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: a mix of like comic books and video games and anime. 198 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: And you know, there's nothing wrong with any of those things, 199 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: but when those form your entire like level of familiarity 200 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: with the world, it's easy for a guy like Andrew 201 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: to come in here with a story that sounds like 202 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: the opening for like a nineteen nineties fighting game, and 203 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: you know they're crazy dry in a little bit, yeah, 204 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: let's continue with the tales of Wudon for a little 205 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: bit longer. Evolution requires pain, while others complain that they 206 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: do not feel happy enough. I'm happy, I'm struggling. I 207 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be happy. I want to be great. 208 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: This is the beauty of life. As a man all caps, 209 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: we are born valueless. You're either all caps man. You 210 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: either build yourself into a king or you fail. A 211 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: top Wudan, I told priest Master Yan Hue, how at 212 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: peace I felt amongst the trees. I could feel life 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: all around me, sitting at the foot of the largest tree. 214 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: I asked him, when life is so beautiful, why do 215 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: we fight? His reply was simple, do you think the 216 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: largest tree you sit beneath grew so tall amongst many 217 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: if it didn't fight in a previous life? I lived 218 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: five thousand years atop wood on mountain. I remember every 219 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: lived second now. I wanted to highlight this story because 220 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: it's an example of like the perfect flaws in this 221 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: style of thinking, Like how it's not just like silly 222 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: on its face, but actually if you attempt to engage 223 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: with it scientifically, and he is trying to make a 224 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: scientific argument here. It's also a perfectly wrong understanding of 225 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: forest ecology in biology. Obviously, there's a lot of competition 226 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: in nature, a lot of competition among trees and plants. 227 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: There's also a huge amount of cooperation. One of the 228 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: I believe it's Acacia trees in a chunk of Africa, Like, 229 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: when they start being fed on by herbivores, the trees 230 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: will start to release like a pheromone essentially that will 231 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: warn the other trees that they're being fed on, so 232 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: that they can start production of a tannin that's poisonous 233 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: to the animals. And so like the trees communicate as 234 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: a grove to work together to protect themselves, and likewise, 235 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: the animals have evolved over time to only eat little 236 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: bits of the trees at a time before it starts 237 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: to get poisonous. There's this thing actually anyway, it's that. 238 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: Tree must be so good to still to still risk 239 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: eating a little bit. 240 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: It must it's got to be delicious. Yeah, what if 241 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: you were like, all right, you can eat some cheetos, 242 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: but after forty five seconds there's cyanide in them. The 243 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: bag of Cheetos will defend itself exactly. 244 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: I think. I do think that Andrew Tate thinks he's 245 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: like a philosopher or like it makes you wonder how 246 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: philosophers become philosophers, because like I think he's in his 247 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: mind he's saying something really profound, right. 248 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the truth is that like a lot 249 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: of philosophers are guys like Andrew Tate, and that they 250 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: were just assholes who said stupid shit, and a lot 251 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: of people listen to them. You know, for every Diogenes, 252 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: there's uh, there's a kant immanual kant So I wanted 253 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: to highlight a little more about how wrong this fucking 254 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: attitude towards trees is. I don't know why, but there's 255 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: a there's an article on americanforest dot org that I 256 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: read years ago that I started thinking about as soon 257 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: as this came up, because it's one of like the 258 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: saddest stories I've ever read. The article title is almost 259 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: impossibly bleak. It's titled The Trees That Miss the Mammoths, 260 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: and it's about the osage orange tree, which I believe 261 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: is what we call bodark, what we white folks call 262 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: bodark in the South. But it's and it's one of 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: the hardest trees on earth, and you can grow it 264 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: into like fence posts and stuff like. It's that that's 265 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: what they used to do with it, is they used 266 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: to like seed it specifically so that they could like 267 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: make fences and stuff out of it. It's also Indigenous 268 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: Americans used it to make bows because it's a really 269 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: good tree for making bows from. But one of the 270 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: weird things about it is that it's incredibly naturally it's 271 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: incredibly geographically isolated. It doesn't grow out of this tiny 272 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: area in like Oklahoma and Texas, and it has these 273 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: these massive, green, fleshy fruits. They're they're these huge green fruits. 274 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: We used to call them horse apples because they were 275 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: all over all over the farrow horse apples. Yeah, I 276 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: would huck them at cows I was six. Look, you 277 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: can't judge me for it, but yeah, they were. There 278 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: are these that we call them horse apples, and you 279 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: can't eat them right. They're inedible for basically everybody because 280 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: the seeds are so hard. I think there's a couple 281 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: of animals that did not naturally eat them. But but 282 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: we'll eat them now once we've put. 283 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: Them together, I'm looking at them now. 284 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're wild, they're massive, they're massive and fruits and 285 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: nothing eats them really anymore, and they don't spread naturally. 286 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: They're so heavy that like they don't get spread wild 287 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: widely around, like birds don't eat them and poop the 288 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: seeds out. Well, they barely are. Mostly the reason why 289 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: they're still alive is that we have like intentionally bred 290 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: them because we wanted the wood. But yeah, so tree 291 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: nerds have been trying to figure out, like, what the 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: fuck is up with this stuff? Why would a tree 293 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: evolve to have fruit that's so hard and so heavy 294 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: and doesn't spread like that seems like a bad evolutionary idea. 295 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: And the understanding they've come to is that it's because, oh, well, 296 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: the trees co evolved with mammoths and giant sloths and 297 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: that's what would eat their fruit and would spread their seeds. 298 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: And when all of the giant sloths and mammoths were 299 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: hunted to extinction, there was nothing to spread the tree 300 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: seeds anymore, so they stopped spreading around. And it's it's 301 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: evidence that as much as competition is a part of nature, 302 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: so is collaboration and interdependency, you know, because it's not 303 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: like the mammoth isn't saying I'm going to spread these seeds, 304 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: and the tree isn't saying I'm going to feed these 305 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: mammoths in exchange for them spreading my seeds. But that's 306 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the way it works out. They were both dependent on 307 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: each other. And now that this this these species that 308 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: they used to depend on, it is gone. The august 309 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: osage tree, despite how hard and tough and strong, and 310 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: it's an incredibly strong plant, it's it can't breed on 311 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: its own. Why because it proves wrong. I think, because 312 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: he's wrong about trees, Sophie tree. 313 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: The tree is just missing its buddies, and it's missing 314 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: them for centuries. That's really sad. 315 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: It was. I thought we were on a different show 316 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: for a second or one. I'm like, we're doing something 317 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: that I feel like would be very good. Happen here 318 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: to explain tree facts. No, No, it's a juckery, Robert. 319 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: Where the fucker the fuckery is He's lying about trees 320 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: to children, and children are going to grow up not 321 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: knowing about the giant sloth and the osage orange tree. 322 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: And that makes me angry. 323 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: Okay, justified, he is wrong him. 324 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, But Sophie, I hear what you're saying. You 325 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: want more Andrew Tait fuckery, and I'm going to give 326 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: you slightly more than you bargained for here, because I 327 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: in trying to find copies of the Way of Wudan, 328 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I found the saddest post that I have ever seen 329 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: on Reddit. It is it is heartbreaking. This is from 330 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: the Cobra Tate subreddit, which is listed as the only 331 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: official community of Andrew Cobra Tate. It's only got three 332 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: point seven thousand members too, which is not a anyway. 333 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: The post is titled the Way of Wodan and it's 334 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: written by a user named Alfred Ceipher about nine months ago. 335 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: And I'm going to read this. Just hold onto your 336 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: hearts because this is going to break them. 337 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: Sure, and I'll hold your heart. You hold my plase, 338 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah you go, There you go. 339 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: May I perhaps should have said, hold on to your 340 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: gag reflex, but here we go. It may sound like 341 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: a fairy tale, but this story couldn't be more realistic. 342 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: What I'm about to share is the story of how 343 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: my trajectory and life changed literally overnight. How I found 344 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: my path to wudan not gonna lie. I was a 345 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: brutal loser, and I'm being modest about how I'm describing it. 346 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: I was way worse, already dead. If I might add, 347 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: I had no friends. The people in my life were 348 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: shitty and put me down every single chance they got. 349 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: I was alone, depressed, and lazy, not to mention stupid. 350 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: The worst part of it was I knew all these 351 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: things deep down. I knew who I truly was, and 352 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: my mind made it clear to me every single day. 353 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: A sore loser, nobody wanted me. I hid myself at 354 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: home just to cope with the pain. It got worse. 355 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: It got to a point where I lost all hope. 356 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: I had no hope anymore, and I lost every battle 357 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: before they even began. The way I got to know 358 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: Tate was just as miraculous, If I might say, there 359 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of success gurus and motivational speakers out there, 360 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: But the first time I saw and Andrew tate clip, 361 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: something immediately clicked. I don't know what it is. I 362 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: got drawn to him instantly. The cobra had snapped its victim. 363 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know that one hurts. That hurt 364 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: to read from that. From that first clip, I immediately 365 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: searched him on YouTube, and surprise, surprise, he had his 366 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. I watched each video down to the 367 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: last bit. His speeches just stripped me of ballbne that 368 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: it's horrible, So that's so horrible. His speeches just stripped 369 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: me of all the victim coat mentality. Until I saw 370 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: myself in my true form again, before I swore never 371 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: to reveal again. I was there, all of my losses 372 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: flooding my mind, teasing me of how much a loser 373 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: I still was and still am. It was ruthless, but 374 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: Taint went ahead and said this one thing, one thing 375 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: that makes the difference. He said, but you can have everything, 376 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: everything you've ever wanted. It's a matter of how bad 377 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: do you want it. And from that moment it was 378 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: my first time to see the light. And then he 379 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: added this, I will show you the way, will you listen? 380 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: That got me started on my path. I borrowed the 381 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: cash in an ATM to pay for Hustler's University. I 382 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: really wanted it, I really really wanted it, and I enrolled. 383 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Don't even get me started on Hustler's University. The content, 384 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: the professors, the students, and the mindset change that hit 385 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: you as astronomical. I would literally go broke just to 386 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: remain in Hustler's University. It's more than just what you 387 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: see every day. You get to see sixty thousand brothers 388 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: hustle and grind with one aim money. 389 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: Okay, this is written by Andrew Tait. He made it 390 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: a count he it reminds himself. 391 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: It might be, but he's got a lot of like, god, wait, 392 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: this is so and everybody's half of these responses are 393 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: making fun of him. 394 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like the people that like actually worship him. 395 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: It's just like it's culty. No, it's for sure culty. 396 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: But it's also just like it's sad. It's sad in 397 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: a way. Yeah. And there's so and there's still so 398 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: many Yeah, because they want. 399 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: To connect with someone so so deeply and so badly. 400 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: It's just like they missed the opportunity to connect with 401 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: someone that's actually like worth their time and so yeah, 402 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's someone that would help them actually 403 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 3: improve as a human being. 404 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's this idea that like, and again, I 405 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: think this goes back to what's incredible. One of the 406 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: things that's incredibly toxic about what Tate is trying to 407 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: push here, this idea that like everything is competition. The 408 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: only real way to like prove your mastery is by 409 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: either acquiring women or by acquiring money, and you're you're 410 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: fighting with everybody except for these people you to hang 411 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: out with, right, Like that is a recipe. I don't 412 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: mean this. I'm not trying to like say this lightly. 413 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: That's a recipe for suicide. Like that is the end 414 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: result of thinking that way. You either get out of 415 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: that thoughts or like, because it's deeply, profoundly toxic. 416 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: To capitalize on that is so so monstrous, you know 417 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: what I mean, To capitalize on that feeling of like 418 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: isolating people and being like this has the potential to 419 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: to destroy people. I feel like that is so so evil. 420 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: It's it's very evil. It's very like America too, right, 421 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: because this is I was just I was watching a 422 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: documentary last night about it was like a YouTube documentary 423 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: about Tony Robbins and Robin's is was it? At one 424 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: point kind of the more mass media acceptable version of 425 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: Andrew tait I. At this point, Tates might be a 426 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: bigger name, but they both have a lot in common, 427 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: including this, Like one of things Robins would do is like, 428 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: you know, attack women who came on and talked about 429 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: like the fact that they were suicidalists. Like he would 430 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: always accuse him of like using suicide as a weapon 431 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: against the man they were in a relationship with, Whereas 432 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: if like a man came on and expressed suicidal thoughts, 433 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: he would he would show this kind of like sympathy 434 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: towards them and stuff like there's these weird there's these 435 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: weird trends that are like ever present across these these grifters. 436 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: And like, ultimately the big thing that like the guys 437 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: like Tate and Robins are pushing is this idea of 438 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: like masculine mastery and female submission being kind of the 439 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: cornerstone of happiness. 440 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: Uh. 441 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: And I it's it's deeply like it. One of the 442 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: things that it does that I think is so heartbreaking 443 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: is it kind of like removes the possibility for identification 444 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: with other human beings on any kind of meaningful emotional level, 445 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: which is, as a cult leader, by the way, what 446 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: you want you don't want members of your cult to 447 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: be able to connect emotionally with anybody else. Right in 448 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: an independent of you, because that's how you make your money. 449 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: Is there is their fundamental brokenness, and that's kind of 450 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: how a huge amount of the American economy works, right, 451 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: Like it's all grifts and cons all the way down. 452 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Tate is just better at it than most people. 453 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: Right, I mean fundamental brokenness. That was the whole That 454 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: was good, good poetry that you just said right there. Yeah, 455 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: it's heartbreaking because you're right, it's uh. 456 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Damn speaking of heartbreaking. Oh well, yes, yes, we're going 457 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: to move on to Andrew Tate's twenty twenty two book. 458 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: But I thought that was your segue to to what 459 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: do you do? 460 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but first, but first check out these Andrew Tait 461 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: approved products. 462 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: No, no, no, oh should. 463 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: I not do that, Sovie. I'm just trying to make 464 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: us some money here. 465 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: You should absolutely not do that, especially especially if it's 466 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: those baked in ones. We have to do soon. 467 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's okay. Eventually he'll get out of prison 468 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: and then then we can. Then we can, Yeah, we 469 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: can collab, we can finally do a podcast together. No, 470 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: here's ads Ah, we're back. So the book that we're 471 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: going to be reading for the rest of our episode 472 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: today is called The Tate Bible. It was published in 473 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two and was written by Andrew Tait and 474 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: someone named G. Slim. 475 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 3: Who the fuck is Slim? 476 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. There was a gangster rapper named G. 477 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Slim with two ms from New Orleans, but he died 478 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: in October of nineteen ninety six when he was shot 479 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: by several people. So I don't think it's this G Slim. 480 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely to be the G. Slim who 481 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: died in nineteen ninety six. 482 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: Oh, this, LIKEE came out very like some of Yeah, 483 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: this came out last year. 484 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So I think it's unlikely. And 485 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: the only other G. Slim searches that I'm getting immediately 486 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: on my search engine are for vaporizers. So he either 487 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: wrote this with a dead man or a vape, which 488 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: actually really fits for Andrew Tape to be entirely honest. 489 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh I no, I got an email for. 490 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: I did the mistake of skimming through some Amazon reviews 491 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: and now I want to die. 492 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what are you seeing? What's what's making you 493 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: feel so bad? 494 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: Most of them are five stars. 495 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. So we're reading a good one. 496 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. The ones that are three stars are even 497 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: about the book being bad. But this is what a 498 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: three star one sounds like. The book. I love the book. 499 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: I love but when Amazon shipped it, they threw it 500 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: in a box with the other items I got and 501 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: it got bent up really bad. That irritates me. 502 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, I hope he has learned how 503 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: to anyway, So I did not ask it for their boyfriend. No, listen, folks, 504 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now. I did not pay 505 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: for this. I found a free pdf posted online. The 506 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: pdf is watermarked from a Telegram channel called get Seduction Bible. 507 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is authorized or if this 508 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: is illegal, and I don't really care because I'm number one. 509 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we're covered by failures used to here 510 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: and number two Andrew Tatus in a Romanian prison, so 511 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: I think his legal hands are tied at the moment 512 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: either way. It opens after the you know, the chapter 513 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: listing and stuff. It opens with I'm so sorry, Scharen, 514 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: I actually brace yourself here, dear friend. 515 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: You still have my heart always, Yes, it is left 516 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: of it. 517 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: It opens with the Tate's prayer. 518 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, it is person to get away 519 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: with him. 520 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I can never tell quite with this guy how much 521 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: of it is supposed to be a joke, because there's 522 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: two questions, right, what of it does he mean as 523 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: a joke and what is like just narcissistic delusion? And 524 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: then the other question is like, what of it do 525 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: his that is a joke is realized by his fans 526 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: to be a joke, And it's impossible to tell. So 527 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the Tates prayer for you should read 528 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: because I know you need more religion in your life. Yeah, 529 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: so our Tate who aren't in Bucharest. He's sure is 530 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: because he's in prison there Andrew b thy name, thy 531 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: Kingdom come through Camon fun Oh online, Oh man, oh god, 532 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh that really that. I felt like my bile kurdle 533 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: in my guts. 534 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 3: I feel like you cursed everyone. 535 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: I know this. I feel like I feel like I'm 536 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: what's your name in the Mummy movie? Reading from the 537 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: Book of the Dead, I'm unleash a terrible curse. Started 538 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: to read and I hear the wind whistling through the 539 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: howl of demons, barely contained. But then I continue reading. 540 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: My Kingdom come through cam and fun online as it 541 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: is on the blockchain. Give us this day our daily vodka, 542 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: and forgive those the ship munchers for their trespasses against us. 543 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Lead us to women for temptation, and deliver us unto 544 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: our dominoes. For his is the Lambeau, the McLaren and 545 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Ferrari forever with Tristan. That's his brother. A men, Wow, 546 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: A bunch of breads. Wow, wow, Oh my god, I 547 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: have to. I have to, Sophie, let me screen share. 548 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: You need to see the photo that comes right after 549 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: the Tates prayer. 550 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: Do I do? 551 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 3: I do I have? 552 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 553 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: No, this is this is necessary. I'm afraid this is 554 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: like morally please here we go. 555 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 556 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's it's a I'm guessing what used to 557 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: be like a drawing of Jesus surrounded by five young 558 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: women who look suspiciously Mormon, but Andrew Tate's face has 559 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: been photo shopowing to. 560 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: Fact check you, there are only four women in that 561 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: photo for. 562 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: Women, Sorry, concerned, I do you. They each have a 563 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: different hair color, which is just fun. 564 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: The flower in his hand is also. 565 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: Uh maybe yes, there's a zoom button at the top. 566 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Middle middle Sovie, Sylvie, thank you. Yeah. 567 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: And he has sunglasses on always, of. 568 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: Course, yeah, he's always got his sunglasses on. 569 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: This is so what are they holding roses? Yeah? 570 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: Those look like roses. 571 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: And like chalices. 572 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't say chalices at any rate. So obsessed, 573 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's very, very unsettling how this book came 574 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: to be Disclaimer. During the first COVID lockdown in the UK, 575 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: I was sat around scrolling through Twitter. I had never 576 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: seen nor heard of Andrew Tate before, but someone I 577 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: follow must have reach tweeted him. I remember reading the 578 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: tweet and laughing at it. So I went to his 579 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: of wu DN Twitter profile and had to look through 580 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: the posts. It was incredible. Who the fuck was this guy? 581 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: Was he for real or was it a parody account? 582 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: For the next hour, I did nothing but scroll through 583 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: his tweets. Jesus, and these weren't just singular tweets like 584 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: your average person posts, but long threads that I got 585 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: lost in. They flew from subject to subject, dropping controversy, humor, 586 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: and pearls of wisdom alike. I won't lie to you. 587 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: I genuinely still thought it was a parody account. I 588 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: couldn't believe anyone actually thought like this. Surely it was 589 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: a wind up. 590 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 3: Wait, what are you reading from now? 591 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: This is the intro to the book. Yeah, and so 592 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: I closed Twitter and went about my day. But the 593 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: thing was, I couldn't stop thinking about it. At the 594 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: back of my mind or realization had started. I thought 595 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: that actually this guy was the real deal. It wasn't 596 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: a joke, it wasn't some prankster trolling everyone. So the 597 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: next day I found his YouTube channel and fell down 598 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: the biggest fucking rabbit hole in existence. Tate Speech, the 599 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Hateful Tates, the war Room, Tate Confidential, God damn it. 600 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: Over the next few months, during lockdown, I would dip 601 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: in and out of all this content, and on this 602 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: joy of discovery, I noticed one thing kept popping up 603 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: into comments. Tate, you should write a book. Several times 604 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: I saw this, and when he bought it to reply, 605 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: Andrew would scornfully say the same thing. I ain't got 606 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: time to write a book. I'm too busy driving a 607 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: McLaren through the Alps. You can't argue with that. He's 608 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: not doing that no more. He's not doing that no more. 609 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 610 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. I find it compelling that 611 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: like at least valuable data that like this weirdo who 612 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: wrote g Slim, who wrote the Tate Bible with Andrew, 613 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: fell into this rabbit hole during the pandemic when he 614 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: was alone at home. Like we know intellectually, that's how 615 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this, the stuff that's metastasized now started. 616 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: But it's it's at least useful to get another fucking 617 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: piece of of date of data on that I'm going 618 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: to continue. I decided right then and there that I 619 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: was going to write the book. I needed to be 620 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: in this man's life, Jesus Christ. I needed to be 621 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: in the war room. I needed to change my life. 622 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I needed a fucking all caps lambeaux exclamation point, exclamation point, 623 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: exclamation point. Let's do it also in all caps with 624 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: three exclamation points. And then in the next days nothing, 625 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: that little doubting voice that tells you you'll never be 626 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: able to do it appears in your head. It took 627 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: me weeks of questioning myself to even get started, and 628 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: even then I stopped halfway through and thought long and 629 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: hard about whether I should continue. But am I going 630 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: to be a loser? Am I going to fail to 631 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: follow through? After all, what's the worst that can happen? 632 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,959 Speaker 1: He might tell me to fuck off, and I realize 633 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: I've wasted my time. But I can handle that. What 634 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: I can't handle is always thinking what might have happened 635 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: if I'd finished and it all works out. What if 636 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: a year later someone else does it and it's a 637 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: huge success. Good news? It was not. Yeah, So I 638 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: decided I would complete the book in total secrecy and 639 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: then get a physical paperback printed to gift to him. This, 640 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: I hoped would get the Seal of approval. Oh my god. 641 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: So this guy just watches all of Andrew's videos over 642 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: and over again and transcribes them. These are transcriptions of 643 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Tait videos. 644 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: Listen. The thing is, I don't believe anything this book says, 645 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, I don't really think. 646 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: G Slim. 647 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: No, I don't fucking trust G Slim. 648 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: Wow, Charen, that's pretty offensive. G Slim died in a 649 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: gunfight in nineteen ninety six for you, and then came 650 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: back to write this book and back that's what I assume. 651 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: This is like, so insufferable. Continue, Oh man, how many 652 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: pages is this book? 653 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: Uh? 654 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot Charene. It's a lot. There's no 655 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: page Oh wait, no, there are page numbers. Let me 656 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: scroll down and see if I can answer that for you. 657 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: Too many, too many pages. You're completely correct. 658 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Okay, only some of the pages have page numbers, but 659 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: there's at least two hundred and eighty three of them. 660 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: That's that's a lot of fucking. 661 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: That's way too many pages. 662 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: That's way too many. That's way too many. 663 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: That is like a heartbreaking number of pages. First off, 664 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, and it's it's going to 665 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: sound mean, but this man is already dead inside g 666 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: Slim like he's he's he's passed on years ago in 667 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: his soul, like there's nothing left but a whisper and 668 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: a ghost and the knowledge that he's fucking wrote a 669 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: book about Andrew Tait that is by Andrew Tait, that 670 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Tait never saw. 671 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you think that's me that I don't think 672 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: this person exists. So we have two deposing views here. 673 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: Oh you don't think G Slim is real? 674 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: I don't think this is Like, I just I can't 675 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 3: trust anything that Andrew Tate is involved with. I really don't. 676 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 3: It all sounds like someone's own fantasy of like being famous. 677 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: That's I mean, he is famous. Unfortunately, a lot of 678 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: it was like he didn't have nearly as much money 679 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: as he pretended to. Like he like one of the 680 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: funny things about Andrew. So he's got this, He's got 681 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: his big hustler's university, which is the place you pay 682 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: like fifty bucks a month for, and then he's got 683 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: the war Room, which you pay five thousand dollars to 684 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: be a member of, and it gets you into all 685 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: these discord chats with his you know, he framed it 686 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: as like this is the most powerful secret society on earth. 687 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: I've got men in every government and like people who 688 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: will show up in any country if I need them. 689 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: I can solve any problem with this. Like if you 690 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: fuck with me, you know this powerful Candra, he gets arrested, 691 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 1: nobody does shit right because it was all a bunch 692 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: of marks who paid five grand to be in a 693 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: discord chat with Andrew Tate. So to that extent, like, yes, 694 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: it is all lies and smoke and mirrors. 695 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: I think when I just realized the difference, Okay, this 696 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: is where this is the landing point. Yeah, go on, 697 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 3: you believe it because you understand that people like this 698 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: exist in the world, and I'm just in denial, you 699 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'm in denial that someone could 700 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: actually do this. 701 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in the manosphere, you know, 702 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: following since years before Andrew Tate, following, you know, reading 703 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: blogs like we Hunted the Mammoth and just like going 704 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: in myself and reading conversations. And I think the most 705 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: durable lesson I've learned is that if something sounds like 706 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: the most depressing, sad thing that could ever possibly exist 707 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: in you're one wondering if it's real. Yes, it is. So. 708 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: I do believe that a guy spent his pandemic rewatching 709 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: Andrew Tait videos, then wrote a book and asked Andrew 710 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: for his approval to sell it and give Andrew the money. 711 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: I do believe that occur. 712 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you've kind of convinced me right now too, 713 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: because I people like that definitely exist. Unfortunately, yes, despite 714 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: my own wishes. 715 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: It's all heartbreaking, but we should probably just soldier through 716 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: to the first chapter of Tate's Wisdom, The Truth About 717 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: Your Ego. We're going to be talking about ego and 718 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: why it's super important that you have an ego. In fact, 719 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: the biggest worms I've met in my life are people 720 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: who don't have egos. If you don't have an ego, 721 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: you don't care about how you're perceived. And there's not 722 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: only how you're perceived by others, but you also don't 723 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: care about how you perceive yourself. If you're going to 724 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: become morbidly obese, you don't have an ego. You can't 725 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: have an ego and become a morbidly obese person. Now, 726 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people get confused because they're 727 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: two types of egos. You've got people who have egos 728 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: that don't deserve iteople who have egos who have earned 729 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: it and justified it. That's okay, I mean, for one thing, 730 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: like he's transposing like the actual like psychological concept of 731 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: an ego with just thinking you're hot shit right, Like 732 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: that's clearly what it means. But also just like I 733 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: don't know if if you're actually because Andrew talks a 734 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: lot about like aestheticism, and you know, these kind of 735 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: like stoic virtues, and hearkens back to these Greek philosophers 736 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: and these kind of Chinese philosophers. All of them would 737 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: have said the same thing about ego, which is that 738 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: like you have to conquer, you're like, like, caring about 739 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: what other people think is not a path towards power. 740 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: It's maybe a path that gets you arrested by the 741 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: Romanian authorities because your ego made you brag about your 742 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: criminal sex trafficking operation. That's what I might say. So, yeah, 743 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: that's funny. All right, So this, this whole rant is 744 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: about his concept of ego. Let's go down to the 745 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: next section. It's titled It's. 746 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: So funny when people misunderstand what that word means. Entirely though, 747 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 3: I think that's so funny. 748 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's also just like people have egos about 749 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: different things. There are people who don't care about their 750 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: physical appearance but care deeply about how they are perceived mentally, 751 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 1: or about you know, how people like their music or whatever. 752 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: Like that's not anyway. All of this is silly. Everything 753 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: he says is silly. Here's his next chapter. Do girls 754 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: Love Money? A lot of people say girls love money, 755 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: and that's not entirely true. They think that if you 756 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: have money, you're gonna get girls, but it's incorrect. I 757 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: know loads of very rich men who don't have girls, 758 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: And I know loads of old, fat, ugly rich guys 759 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: who are desperately trying to throw money at girls, and 760 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: these girls won't fuck them because they don't really care 761 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: about money. Girls like the trappings of money without seeing 762 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: the actual money. A girl doesn't want you to sit 763 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: there and say you earn this much, that you have this. 764 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. What they want is a 765 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 1: black Mercedes to pick them up from their house and 766 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: take them to the restaurant. Now, this is funny, Sharene, 767 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: because we know from information it's come out since his 768 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: arrest that one of Andrew's hobbies was to find girls 769 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: in Romania, like children, like high school girls on Instagram, 770 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: and they repeatedly hit on them and offer to pick 771 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: them up in his black Mercedes. And we have like 772 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: they nearly always said like no, you're a creep and 773 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: a weirdo. He just did it so often that he 774 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: would find, you know, a few people to victimize like that. 775 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: That was his actual flirtation strategy. Good stuff, good stuff. 776 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: Just trying to just probability wise, trying to hack the system, 777 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 3: just like if I do the times. 778 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what all these guys do, right, Like it's 779 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: all about if you I mean, yeah, if you are, like, 780 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: there's so many people in the world that if you 781 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: just constantly hit on every woman that you see, someone 782 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: will want to pick up what you're putting down, right, 783 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: And they they kind of take that very basic fact 784 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: and then and the fact that they're also like mentally 785 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: abusing children in a lot of cases who don't have 786 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: as much judgment or even the kind of like formalized 787 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: ideas of what they like as. 788 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: People, even like their entire brain function or. 789 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: Whatever, exactly exactly, and they transposed that to their fans 790 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: as like these are the hacks for getting women, and 791 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: it's like, well, no, you're just being like a weird, 792 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: sad creep and ninety nine percent of the people you 793 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: talk to think you're gross, And then you're conning a 794 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: bunch of dumb young men into believing that, like this 795 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: is the trick to being James Bond, Right, Yeah. 796 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 3: Anyway, Like I feel like I don't know, I forget 797 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 3: what his name is because it's irrelevant and stupid. But 798 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 3: when I was in high school, there was like a 799 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: pick up artist that was like the same kind of 800 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: vibe that Andertait is, but like he was like he 801 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: like introduced the word like nagging, you. 802 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 1: Know what I mean, like that, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so. 803 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 3: That is and he was also bald. I'm pretty sure. Uh, 804 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 3: but I don't know what's what that's about. Not bad 805 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 3: by choice, I guess, yeah, but uh it's interesting to think, 806 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: like would would that have happened if the internet was 807 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 3: like it is now? Or do people like this just 808 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 3: like this? Does there always have to be someone that 809 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 3: these like vulnerable young people are subject to, Like it, 810 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 3: it's really because they're not new ideas, they're just like 811 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 3: recycled and said in different ways. 812 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: No, they're not new, and this kind of guy isn't new, right, Like, 813 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: if you even want to go back to the turn 814 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: of the last century, a lot of the early kind 815 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: of people who guys like Gabrielle d Nunzio, who like 816 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: became fascists and led to the early stages of that movement, 817 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: were like masculinity influencers, right there was and it was 818 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: because you had this, you know, you know, there's not 819 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot of room for purchase for these guys in 820 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: an era in which like most men are working in 821 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: like a farm or something, or like even in a factory. 822 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: But once you start getting like a lot of white 823 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: collar jobs where people are like sitting down and filing 824 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: paperwork all day, it's easy to number one that's not 825 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: often very rewarding work, and it's easy to convince a 826 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: chunk of the people doing that job that like, oh, 827 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: in the past, you would have been a viking, and 828 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: you know, you would have had a beautiful woman on 829 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: your arm and lots of booty, and you know you'd 830 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: be fighting all the time and getting this anger that's 831 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: deep inside you out. And I think for at least 832 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty years or so, it's been 833 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: a pretty profitable thing to mine that vein of insecurity 834 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: that a chunk of the male population, particularly in the 835 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: middle class, is going to have. TAIT is kind of 836 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: an evolved form of. 837 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 3: That, but yeah, totally. I mean hand in hand in 838 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: that unfortunately, is always like objectifying and women and like 839 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 3: not even just not even just objectifying like sexually, but 840 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: like making them objects. 841 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well, because for one thing, like if the 842 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: primary lever that you're pulling is the insecurity of your audience, 843 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: nothing makes the kind of men who are vulnerable to 844 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: TATE insecure, Like the idea that a woman they're into 845 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: has like a life and the freedom of her own 846 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: to like not want to hang out with you if 847 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: you're being like a weird, gross creep, and people that. 848 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 3: Like what there was a there was a shooter, like 849 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 3: a mass shooter that had that mentality of like these 850 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: these girls rejected him, and so he got. 851 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: You Elliott, Yeah from Santa Bora. 852 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yes, but like he was someone that thought 853 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 3: all those things and had access to a firearm and 854 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 3: the desire to do that, like imagine, it's just it's 855 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: just a recipe for disaster, like it's you mentioned, it's 856 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 3: like a recipe for suicide. It's like that. And also 857 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 3: just like general like death. 858 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's it's all death cults all 859 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: the way down. But you know what's not a death cult? 860 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: Charine Blue Apron. That's right, Blue Apron is not a 861 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: death cult. That's the one guarantee Blue Apron makes. Uh. 862 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: They are no longer a death cult. Currently not a 863 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: death cult. Blue Apron. Oh we're back boy. I love 864 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: those Blue Apron ads. They're certainly not a death cult. 865 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 2: Please please, please, don't thank you. 866 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: That's the end of that. 867 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 2: What Please don't be serious. Please don't message us. 868 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you saying they are a death cult, Sophie, 869 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to tell people that they're not. 870 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 2: Saying please, please please. 871 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 3: Okay, this is the most positive things I've heard, Robert saying, yeah, 872 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: Blue Apron. 873 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I've turned I've turned the corner. Yeah yeah, yeah. 874 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: Let's continue with our tap bible if we must. Let 875 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: me tell you something about having a Lamborghini. It's two 876 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to buy, ten thousand dollars a year 877 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: to service, eleven thousand dollars a year in insurance. Forget 878 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: that I've replaced the windscreen twice this year from stone Chips, 879 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: which is another ten thousand dollars. Forget the miscellaneous costs. 880 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: It's about three to four hundred thousand dollars I spent 881 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: so far on a car that has no guarantee of 882 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: getting girls. But what does it do is if I 883 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: pull up outside of a nightclub or a high school 884 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: in my Lamborghini, then girls. He doesn't say that, but 885 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: that's what he does. Then girls look at me and think, well, 886 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't see that kind of car very often. That's interesting. 887 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: Who is he how does he afford a Lamborghini. If 888 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: I continue to talk to a girl, I have about 889 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty seconds to say something interesting and continue 890 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: to be an interesting person, Otherwise I'm going to lose her. 891 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: What it does is it facilitates an opener. It gets 892 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: a tiny bit of interest, but it's still my job 893 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: to finish the interest off. If I'm a boring content. 894 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 1: She asks, how did you get a Lambeau? And I 895 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: sit there and go, well, the Lamborghini has a V 896 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 1: ten five point two liter engine. She doesn't give a 897 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: fuck about the fucking engine in the car. If a 898 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,919 Speaker 1: girl sees your Lamborghini, it gives you an opener. It's 899 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: interesting because it's all about like, it's not about actually 900 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: being an interesting person or like being appealing. It's about 901 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: having these devices that make you look interesting, which is 902 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: always the uh oh boy, oh boy. 903 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 3: No, you don't have to get a personality or be 904 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 3: nice or anything. You should have to have objects to 905 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 3: distract people with. 906 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, then there's this baffling line. Let me tell you 907 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: if what you get if you buy a Lamborghini. The 908 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: only people who genuinely adore you when you have a 909 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: Lamborghini are ten year old boys. They see a drive 910 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: past in their eyes light up and they start waving 911 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: their hands and they'll do anything to get in your car. 912 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 1: So unless you're a pedophile, there's no point in buying 913 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: a Lamborghini to get pussy. Now. What's interesting to me 914 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: about this is that like he's right about that, and 915 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 1: that he's saying a truth about his business, which is 916 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: that the only people who are impressed by a guy 917 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: bragging about his Lamborghini are our young children. Yeah, because 918 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: that's his audience, That's who he is trying to That's 919 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: why all these schools are trying to de radicalize kids 920 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 1: from Tate is because and he knows it. He knows that, 921 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: like the only thing that is the only people who 922 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: are impressed by my act are children and people with 923 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: the minds of children. 924 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: Just I mean interesting that sentence was also just like heartbreaking, 925 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 3: intense and not needed, but not surprising that it's in there. 926 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, oh my god, I think it's it's 927 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: sad that because because young people are so easily influenced. 928 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 3: But like I was still kind of like scrolling through 929 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 3: these reviews and one of these reviews is talking about 930 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 3: how this person sent it to their son and how 931 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 3: they like they for encouragement and in hopes of letting 932 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 3: helping out the fire under him. How Tate is standing 933 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: up against the matrix. How this is like a better 934 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 3: way to teach little girls and boys or whatever. But 935 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 3: like it's it's it's sad that it also has has 936 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 3: like seeped into the minds of like parrots, and like, 937 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 3: I don't, I just can't. I don't know. I'm kind 938 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 3: of rambling now because these reviews are like breaking my brain. 939 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I just think that's that's crazy. 940 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. The next thing is his fifty hips for being 941 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,879 Speaker 1: a Man, which, oh yeah, no, these are great. There's 942 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 1: all sorts of wild shit in here, including us reject 943 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: sex from a beautiful woman. The red pill dorks are 944 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: desperate for sex at my level. You refuse to let 945 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: a woman have you simply because she's beautiful. She has 946 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: to deserve a man like me. I reject stunning women 947 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: all the time. It's good for the soul. Okay, it's 948 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: it is. I gotta say there's something technically impressive about 949 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: turning the man influencer grift around from like I'm going 950 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: to teach you how to get girls every time to 951 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,839 Speaker 1: like I don't even need to have sex, right, That's 952 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: that's how That's how much of a stud I am 953 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: is I don't even fuck a lot of the time. 954 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: That is so. 955 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 3: Interesting because you're right, the other pickup artist person, I'm 956 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 3: thinking it was all about getting women. 957 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that. It is interesting, and I think 958 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: it's an evidence of kind of like why his grift 959 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: has been successful is that he's taking a spin on, 960 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that people have been doing for 961 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah. 962 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't have sex normally. That means I'm cool, 963 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like. 964 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: I always have sex. Yeah, it's my choice. Yeah, which, 965 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: like it's perfectly fine to not whant I have sex. 966 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,800 Speaker 1: It's just interesting to me that, like, his whole grift 967 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: is clearly about here's how you become rich and get babes, 968 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: and this is part of like how he sells it 969 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: to people. 970 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 3: I think it's because the majority of people, if you 971 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 3: have to choose between the two options, are they're not 972 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,280 Speaker 3: fucking all the time, but they want to be fucking 973 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 3: all the time, and or like they're not doing that 974 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 3: at all. So I think he's going with the majority, 975 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 3: being like, how can I have the most people relate 976 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 3: to this? I can tell them that them not fucking 977 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 3: is actually a power play. 978 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 2: You know. 979 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's most of this is really boring stuff, but 980 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: I got to read you. Number fifteen. 981 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 3: Do you okay? 982 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: You'll like this one? Get arrested a couple nights in jail. 983 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: It's good for you. I've accumulated about two weeks across 984 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 1: different incidences. I think that might just be the perfect amount. 985 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 3: That you think I've ever heard of my life. 986 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: Good news, Andrew, You're about to get a lot more 987 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: jail experience. 988 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: God. 989 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he did it so funny. He did it. 990 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 3: Following his own rules. He did this to himself, like 991 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 3: quite literally, but also just like the idea to write 992 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 3: that down in a book or he'd say that out 993 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 3: loud and get a transcribed or whatever the fuck this 994 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 3: book is. It's crazy like that is it is just 995 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, Wow, these episodes 996 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 3: really break my brain, and that's the goal broken, it feels, so. 997 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: That's that's always the goal here at Behind the Bastards. 998 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: Number twenty one. Get a loan and refuse to pay 999 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: it back. Sell her transfer your assets first, or do 1000 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: it just before you move country cash and slaves people. 1001 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: It's not fair. The banks are absolute criminals, and you 1002 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: need to get some small retribution. They'll simply print more 1003 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,240 Speaker 1: money fuck them. Which Like, I don't have a problem 1004 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 1: with stealing from the bank, but Andrew getting a loan 1005 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: and then just like not paying it back has consequences 1006 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: for people in many cases. Okay, that that's going to 1007 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: come back to bite your fans. I don't think that's 1008 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: what he does. I think he gets loans from maybe 1009 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: individual people and never pays them back. But I'm pretty 1010 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: sure anyway, whatever number twenty two become very good at stealing. 1011 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: I never ever order a coffee from Starbucks without stealing 1012 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 1: something from the front, right under the dickhead's nose. Never 1013 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 1: steal from small businesses, steal from the Okay, that one's fine, 1014 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, Yeah, that's okay, that's it. Look even 1015 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: a stopped clock is going to be right about shoplifting. Yeah, 1016 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: so okay, let's move past. 1017 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 3: But he's doing it to like like he he insulted 1018 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: the person that doesn't catch him. He's doing it to 1019 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 3: like be like I am I'm better than you. I 1020 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: can get away with this. Also, it's not just about 1021 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 3: giving it to the man or whatever. 1022 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, choose a book about a story that sounds interesting, 1023 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: a man who's traveling around Africa, or a man who 1024 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: decided to sail the Mediterranean, a professional boxer, whatever, Throw 1025 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: the fucking book away and go do it yourself. Living 1026 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: is better than reading good stuff. Maybe if you had 1027 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: read a couple of stories about I don't know, al Capone, 1028 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: maybe you you wouldn't have wound up in solitary confinement, 1029 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: going crazy fighting ghosts. Good stuff, good stuff. Uh, all right, well, 1030 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: let's let's move along. So it's just all shit like this, 1031 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,239 Speaker 1: all this, all this, lots of there's transcripts of him 1032 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 1: talking on podcasts. My god, what kind of sad people, 1033 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,320 Speaker 1: what kind of sad man turns this into a book? 1034 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 3: You can you can make a book too, I guess. 1035 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, somebody, somebody turn all of my great 1036 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: wisdom on my podcast appearances. Uh into a book. 1037 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 1038 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Uh. 1039 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 3: Anything can be a book. Anything can be a book. 1040 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, anything can be a book. So I've scrolled down 1041 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: to the bottom here and I was going to just 1042 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: read you the last page, but then I came across 1043 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: this A lot of men take all the frames I 1044 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: used in my webcam business and apply it to their marriage, 1045 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: and they say their marriage is never been better. It's 1046 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: amazing but unsurprising because women are women and men are men. 1047 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: But all in all, I genuinely want the best for everybody, 1048 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: and I look forward to speaking to a feminist. I 1049 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: hope I can deprogram her and she can get her 1050 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: ass married, have some kids, make her man at dinner, 1051 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: and finally become a good woman and stop talking shit. 1052 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: So I look forward to talking with a feminist and 1053 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: I'll fix her brain, no problem. 1054 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 2: I'll fix her brain. No wow. 1055 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 3: Also, if someoneist can do all those things, just like 1056 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 3: heads up, she can't get married and have fucking kids 1057 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 3: or whatever the shit? 1058 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, so I don't know. That's probably all 1059 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: of the Tate Bible we need to go through today. 1060 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you learned something, Charene. 1061 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I genuinely learned that I shouldn't 1062 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 3: be in denial of the things that freak me out 1063 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 3: and like I don't want to believe because people like 1064 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 3: this exist and it's better to be aware of them 1065 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 3: existing in the world versus not be aware of that 1066 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 3: and then I don't know. Yeah, it's a genuine lesson 1067 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 3: I've learned today. 1068 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: It's heartbreaking. But uh, people like this are real. Uh 1069 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: in some sense, you know, we can what is real? 1070 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: What is reality? 1071 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 3: The matrix? Did did it work? Did read his book worked? 1072 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: I think that we've all escaped the matrix in our 1073 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: own way today, and uh, and now we know I 1074 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: don't know what what what? What? What? What is escaping 1075 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: the matrix? If not getting paid to talk on a 1076 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: microphone in your underpants? Right, we've broken the matrix. And 1077 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,879 Speaker 1: if you send, if you send Sharena and I five 1078 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, we will put you in a discord chat 1079 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: with everyone else who paid us five thousand dollars, and 1080 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: we will pretend that we're going to show up in 1081 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: that discord chat and talk to you occasionally. 1082 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's tempting the way you say it in words. 1083 00:54:53,880 --> 00:55:01,959 Speaker 2: And now what's my cut? Yeah, Sophie U, I'm gonna 1084 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 2: need at least for wow Wow? Can I need manager? 1085 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Sure, Scharene, we might have to go to 1086 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: war here. 1087 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 3: I mean, this is all, it's all or nothing. We 1088 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 3: have double the charge ten thousand. 1089 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about Yeah, let's make a ten k. Let's 1090 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: make it ten. 1091 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 3: That'll be fine you. 1092 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: Wow, wow, Well well uh well well we're going to 1093 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: deal with all this offline. But everybody, if you mail 1094 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: five or ten thousand dollars to us, eventually we'll figure 1095 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: out how to split it up. I can promise you that, yes, yes, 1096 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, you gotta plug anything. 1097 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 3: I have a podcast as well. It's called Ethnically Ambiguous, 1098 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 3: if you guys want to check it out. I just 1099 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 3: made this little short film called how Can I Be 1100 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 3: Present When Photographs Exist? It's like this little it's just 1101 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 3: a it's a it's a window into my brain recently. 1102 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 3: If you guys have any curiosity about what that is, 1103 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 3: but I think that's it. You can follow me on 1104 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 3: social media if you want to. 1105 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 2: What are your handles? 1106 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 3: Oh right, Uh Instagram is Shiro Hero and uh Twitter 1107 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 3: is Shiro Hero sixty sixty six. I do want to 1108 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 3: point out because I know the word Shiro is like 1109 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 3: some people use it as like the female version of Hero. 1110 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 3: That is not That is not my name. It's a 1111 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 3: nickname that I have my whole life from my family. 1112 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: It's your name. 1113 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 3: And so I want everyone out there to know. That's 1114 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 3: not why I chose that name. It's my name. 1115 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: I hate the idea of using Shiro for Hero because 1116 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: Hero is not a gendered name. I know, like hero, 1117 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: the term hero does not apply masculine, imply masculine or feminine. 1118 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 3: I think it seems unnecessary sound that way. 1119 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, it's like when people like try 1120 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: to de gender the term folks by spelling it fols. 1121 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 1122 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: Folks does not imply gender exactly. Why are we doing Yes, 1123 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: it's fine as it is. Yeah, yeah, it's like yeah, 1124 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: adding an X to y'all, it's like, no, we're good. No, 1125 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,800 Speaker 1: one's good. No, No, I don't know one's done that. 1126 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: They will now, they will. Now, let's make that be 1127 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: an our fans thing. Yeah, all right, everybody go to hell. 1128 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: I love you, see you there. 1129 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: Behind the Bastards is a production of cool Zone Media. 1130 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: For more from cool Zone Media, visit our website Coolzonemedia 1131 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,479 Speaker 2: dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 1132 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.