WEBVTT - Clay Talks With Marco Rubio 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.200 Welcome in Clay Travis Wins and Losses. We are back 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.360 up and running with some of our long form podcast 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.080 now that the Clay and Buck Show is is rolling. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.720 I'm not on the road for the entire fall, not 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.360 to complain, but fifteen or sixteen straight weekends in a 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.400 row and a college football venue, it's it's a lot 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.480 of days in a row to work. We bring in now, 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.160 Senator Marco Rubio. I know he is one of the 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.920 foremost fans of college and pro football, if I'm not 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:33.519 mistaken in the world of politics in general, Senator from Florida. Now, 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:37.680 actually start here because there's a fantastic article that one 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.440 of our writers, I believe, Armando Sugaro did an out 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.120 kick about your son and his high school football career. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.400 And I know you're a diehard Dolphins fan, so I 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.640 want to start here and just get your read on this. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.960 I am a diehard Tennessee Titans fan, and after the 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.560 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals in the playoffs, Senator, I'm 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.160 over forty years old and I could sleep that night 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.160 because I was so upset over the performance over the 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.400 three interceptions. I know you're a diehard Dolphins fan. What's 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.320 the worst loss that you can remember where you thought 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.520 to yourself, I'm way too old to care as much 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.319 as I do about something that I don't have any 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.800 direct impact on. Does that still get you in the gut? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.920 Sometimes Dolphins losses, do you remember one where you're like, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.600 oh my god, this is unbelievable. Well, you know, I 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.120 think what happens is like anything else, you build immunity 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.520 of these things, just like you build this immunity. So 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.120 I want to say it was after the four season 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.760 the Dolphins lost is very close playoff games to the 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.360 San Diego Chargers, which which I thought was probably the 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.720 last time that had a legitimate chance you had a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.040 team that could have made a run. I mean that 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:52.600 was the year. If you remember Marino Um toward his 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:57.480 achilles tendons for and they have this team, and this 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.200 team can win some games. I mean, you've got and 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.320 they lose a game on the road to San Diego. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.960 At least Pizza Tayanovitch misses this last second field goal. 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.120 You know they win that game. I think they win 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.400 the following week, uh and go to the to the 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.079 Super Bowl. I think the I really think I think 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.119 was Steelers who ended up going that year and um, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.400 but nonetheless, I UM, I can remember that vividly and 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:23.880 that really haunted me. That the following season, they just 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:28.079 got rocked by the Bills in the playoffs, and that 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.440 was the end of Don Shula's the tenure here with 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.800 the Dolphins. Was his last game. So that was a 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.280 bad one. And that was way back obviously, So I mean, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.800 I mean in the two thousands and the two thousand tens, um, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.960 they really haven't had any singular game like that. They 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.520 really haven't been I mean, they went to the playoffs 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.760 twice since the last time the Dolphins won a playoff 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.720 game was in two thousand, yeah, for two thousand seasons, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.160 so maybe two thousand and one, and they haven't won 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.080 a playoff games since then. It's been twenty three years 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.840 and they've been to the playoffs twice since then. I 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.200 can't recall a game. And and that's a sad thing 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.360 to say, you know, because I mean usually it's like, Okay, 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.760 you got a team that you can't have a chance, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.760 but like right now where you know, like when you're 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.400 like rooting to be like the seventh seed in the 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.360 road wild card team, I mean, it just tells you 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.200 how far, how toughest franchise has had it for twenty years. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:17.600 The Titans, you know, they've been in the mix. I mean, 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.640 I know it's frustrating to see what happened this season, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.120 how they came out at the end, but they're in 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:22.720 the mix. You know, they got a single on there 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.600 where they got some players and a core that they've 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.959 built around, and and and so you know. Uh, but 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.960 the Dolphins, I mean, it's been a while since they 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.920 since it mattered, and I hope that changes now. Are 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.440 you a believer into a I'm a believable Look, I 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.120 have no ways And I always tell people this, Like 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.320 my assessment on to is based on sixty minutes of 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.240 football seventeen weeks a year, right. I mean, I don't 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.800 get to see him in practice. I don't get to 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.560 It's not what I do every day. So but I 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.200 can tell you there are things he does that I 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.520 think are unique. I think he has an elite accuracy. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.200 I think he's a quick rhythm passor a great, very 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.040 good rhythm pass. I think he's a guy that can 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.640 put the ball in the hands of guys who can 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.920 make yards after catch. And there's a lot of guys 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:07.840 who made their living in the NFL with that, you know, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:09.400 And I think the question is he has to be 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.840 in the right system, you know, the surrounded by the 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.080 right talent, with a coach that believes in him, and 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.680 that's structured to make it work that way. So they 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.320 spent the fifth pick in the draft on him, So 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:19.960 they got to try to make it work, you know, 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.360 with him and see what they can maximize from them. 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:26.120 So I think that there are some things. Look, the 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.840 one thing I mere about too, he was a freshman, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.440 and do you remembers as well, was eighteen, nineteen years old. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.320 They put him in at halftime. This kid takes where 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.280 I believe it was like a twentysomething art stack. It 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.839 was like an overtime against Georgia. It was like a 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.240 wipeout sack, you know, like the craziest thing you ever saw. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.480 And then the next play he comes in, he looks 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:47.040 off the safety I think hit Smith down the left 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.120 sideline for a down the championship. I mean, that was 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.000 ice blood in his things. I remember thinking, I mean, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.200 this kid's nineteen years old and he's delivering, you know, 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.000 and what's happened with quarterbacks? And you're seeing it now, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.000 you're seeing the fruits of it is and I'm seeing it. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.640 I haven't seen it for years. Now. These kids are 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.120 throwing into complex schemes that are working on I mean 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.960 they're nine, ten of eleven years old these seven on 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.240 seven tournaments. So by the time these guys make it 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.000 to the NFL, these guys, some of them have had 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.800 ten to twelve years of elite quarterback training and they 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.760 thrown thousands and thousands of passes um in seven on 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.720 seven in high school football where everybody's throwing the ball around. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.000 And I think that's part of what happened with two 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.600 of coming in as you mean, there's a guy had 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.400 grown up in that sort of system and so maybe 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.839 that moment wasn't too big for him. So I remember 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.480 that day thinking, you know, there's something unique about this guy. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.479 You know that he's able to do that, But I 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.000 think he's got to be in the right place to 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:42.360 make that work. You guys ever have any cross politics 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.279 meeting Democrat Republican sports conversations on Capitol Hill? Like is 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.599 there a Democrat that you may not have much in 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.680 common with politically, but you guys are both huge sports 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.479 fans and you end up in convergence. I'm always just 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:58.719 kind of curious. You're obviously in the world of politics, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.560 but is there any sort of approachment or come together 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.080 conversations surrounding what might have happened in the world of 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.760 sports over the weekend, if you've got a hearing on Monday, 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.599 like it would in a lot of other businesses, or 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.719 you know what they used to call water cooler conversation 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.040 back in the day when people were actually in offices. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.880 I'm curious how much how much discussion of sports there 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:24.760 is on Capitol Hill in your experience. Yeah, yeah, there is, 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.960 and I'll tell you, I mean, obviously some people more 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.000 than others than you're always pretty busy when you're up there. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:30.960 But look, the Senate is different than the House. I'm 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.000 not saying better, I'm the saying different. It's smaller. It's 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.000 only a hundred people, so everybody knows everybody, and eventually 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.240 you end up working with everybody there on something. The 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.279 other thing is any one senator can blow up the 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.400 whole place, like you know, really slow down everything and 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.920 slow down your stuff. So you really there's just this 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.640 built an incentive to like, you know, fight with someone 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.200 on one issue. But not make a permanent enemy out 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.919 of them, because like next week they may be working 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.080 with you on something else and eventually that's what happens 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.600 in the Senate is you know, you can't get any 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.800 passed unless somebody from the other side it's with you 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.320 it so you've got to maintain these relationships. I think 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.800 there are people that are more more sports centric than now. 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.800 There's obviously um you know uh So for example, and 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.480 then the Cory Booker played as you know, and at Stanford, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.360 so that's someone I've talked to a few times about 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.679 the recruiting process and then just college football at large, 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.240 and you know, we'll talk about that especially, you know, 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.080 I think about him and those guys. There's those West 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.960 Coast games. Man, you gotta stay up till like three 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.400 in the morning right to see usually I mean Stanford 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.000 comes across a couple of other times, come across time zones, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.520 or you come across and play on the East. I mean, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.440 if you're like a b y U fan, I mean, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.400 you've gotta be up until three in the morning in 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.600 East Coast time on a Saturday night, you know, to 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.360 to see them play and all that. So I think 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.000 that's where you lose some of it if these guys 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.080 are And then we had some conversations about name, image 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.760 and likeness with the SEE people. But I wouldn't say 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.640 I don't think it's maybe it's just unique to me. 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.320 I wouldn't say that anybody that's follows that, um, you know, 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.240 as closely. Now, obviously with Tubberville there sort everybody gravitates 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.200 to him. I feel bad but all the time because 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.000 like ais a u S senator, everybody always wants to 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.000 talking about what do you think about this, you know, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.280 college football related and he's a very joyful guy and 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.640 very happy to oblige everybody. But I'm like, you know, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:12.240 you guys asking about Ukraine or something, you know. But 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.000 but but having him there has kind of made him 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.280 the magnet for both sides to kind of gratitude towards 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.760 and talk about this stuff. Fox Sports Radio has the 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.760 best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.280 our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.800 the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:32.600 listen live. We're talking to Senator Marco Rubio your own 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.640 football career. I know you grew up in Miami, if 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.400 I'm not mistaken, and obviously, Miami is a hotbed. I 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.400 grew up in Vegas. You know, I grew up in 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.400 moved to Miami, So I was born in Miami. When 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.320 I was seven, we moved to Las Vegas and then uh, 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.800 and then we came back when I was going into 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.480 ninth grade. So it was kind of that deal. So 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.280 what was it like growing up in Vegas? So, I mean, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.480 you know, everybody has the glitz and glamour. I'm going 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.079 out there, I think for the n C Double a 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.760 basketball tournament. That's one of the things that is one 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.480 of the great times to be in Vegas. But around 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.560 the time that you were there, that had to be 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.160 an an interesting dynamic. I think your is it your 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.160 dad who worked in a casino. Yeah, both of my 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.080 parents worked in the end and my my mom was 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:19.480 made at a hotel called the Imperial Palace, which um 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.600 and then my dad was a bartender at a place 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.680 called Sam's Town. And uh, look, it was first of all, 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.120 Vegas was not what it is now. How did how 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.960 by the way, how did they make the move from 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.079 Miami to Vegas? What was the I mean, obviously, I'm 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.640 assuming maybe there was the idea that they were gonna jobs, 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.360 but they didn't mean the opportunities in Miami. Yeah. Yeah, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:39.880 it was a cheaper to live there, and there were 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.240 a lot of jobs that there. Um uh, we had 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.880 three aunts, three of my mom's sisters already lived there, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.040 and so they're like, yeah, you know, and it's true. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:48.839 I mean, you get there and my dad found a 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.160 job pretty quickly. My mom as well, just wasn't hard 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.319 to find service sector jobs that paid enough for them 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.959 to own a home. And uh and and that's kind 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.440 of what happened, you know. And I do remember growing up, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.720 like my mom telling people like, oh, I want to move. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:03.920 And I look back now at Iron if she start, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.320 I want to move to a place that's a little 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.000 bit you know, more family translate, you know, than Miami. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.439 And I look back and I'm saying, so that Vegas, 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:14.160 you know, that's uh, that's that's what. But but from 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.520 from their perspective, you could that she had family there, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.680 so she had that support network. I think that's the 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.120 big thing that people forget about working class family. It's 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.160 not just about moving. You're very rarely going to pick 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.560 up and move somewhere that you don't have, you know, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.040 your cousins your your sisters, your brothers, your aunts, your 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.240 uncle's you're not gonna do it because that's your support network. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:33.880 I mean, if if you've got to go pick up 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:38.240 a couch, you know, from the refrigerator, from from the store, 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.400 it's your cousin's pickup you're gonna use. I mean, you 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.400 got to go somewhere, it's you're you're going to leave 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.400 your kids with your relative. So we always had to 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.640 be around family. Maybe that was our entire support network. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.559 And so Vegas was the only other city in the 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.600 country where we had family or they could find a job, 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.520 So it wasn't unique time to grow up there. You know, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.920 the city was smaller than it is now now. A 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.360 fair fourth space used to fly the planes right over 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.160 the city. Uh so I remember seeing all the Air 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.240 Force planes constantly flying over us. I went to a 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.240 very mixed school, racially mixed school. UM it was I 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.120 don't know what the statistics were, but it was a 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:16.560 substantially you know, uh minority African American and Mexican American 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.120 UM school that a substantial majority of that. So it 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.960 was just it was I mean, I look back fondly 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.280 at my my memories of Las Vegas. Did you see 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.200 the video that went viral of the kids in Las 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.360 Vegas having it announced that they no longer had to 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.320 wear masks? Did you say, did it? Did it make 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.640 you think back to when you were a public school 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.920 kid in Las Vegas? A little bit? Yeah? Except probably. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.600 I mean, I guaranteed the school that go to didn't 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.400 even exist while I was there. And that's just gets 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.240 grown stuff. But but it does it. It makes you 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.200 look back to that entire time. And so this whole 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.240 generation rights of people that kids in particular that have 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.760 come of age, I mean, they don't have any memory 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.640 of not having to wear a mask all the time, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.040 and and I and I just think that there comes 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.640 to this point, right, but the becomes this almost I mean, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.560 what's happened in American life today is the stuff that 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.480 you used to read in the Onion or Babylon be 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.400 you know, what was satire or satire and ironic and 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.400 and things that you can make fun of. This stuff 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.800 like that actually happening in the real world. And so 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.200 you tune into a Super Bowl game where you're watching 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.640 this thing and I mean it's like eight thousand people 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:23.679 in the stadium and no one's wearing a mask. The 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.680 more famous you more are, the less masculer. And and 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.320 then thinking on Monday morning, a bunch of kids in 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.200 that city and across the country're gonna have to go 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.080 to school and wear a mask. Even the State of 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.640 the Union. I don't know if you saw these rules 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.520 they came up with to attend the State of the Union. Um, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.280 I saw that they were going to let people go, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.680 But what are the rules. I haven't heard them specifically. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:46.400 For first, when Biden speaks, Yeah, so a negative COVID 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.680 test twenty four hours before you got to wear a mask. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.880 You've got a socially distance where they're gonna put members 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.200 in the calorie and babers on the floor. But it's 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:57.280 all theater. It's all complete theater. Okay. Look, I can 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:58.760 tell you now for a fact, and I'm not going 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.560 to call him out because I don't want to. You know, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.439 in the Senate Democrats, you know, when the cameras are on, 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.760 most all of the most of them wearing a mask. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.200 But there are plenty instances in which there are no 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.439 cameras around where those masks in the where to be found. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.160 They don't have them on, And you know, it's just 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.280 it's it's a theater. At this point, It's almost like 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.360 these are the rituals that you have to perform in 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.440 this theater in order to prove you know that that 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.600 you're you know that you're in the on the right 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.200 side of it. And that's what that State of Union 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.520 thing is. It's theater. That's all it is. Uh, there's 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.760 nothing more about it. I wish the super Bowl was 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.600 in California and so far so I'm sorry, I wish 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.720 the State of the Union wasn't so far stould have 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.760 to wear else. What did you think? But I know 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.760 you watched the super Bowl, and that was one of 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.000 the things that jumped out to me. Well, first of all, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.040 you're around my age, so I bet you grew up 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.520 listening to Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre and and Eminem 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.960 and all those guys. And so I loved the halftime 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.240 show because to my mind, the nineties and the early 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.200 two thousand's are like the greatest moments in American history, right, 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.240 I mean, I feel like everybody got along. I feel like, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.760 by and large, you know, we didn't have this cancel culture, 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.920 this identity politics. It was everybody thought, everybody agreed that 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.920 we all had way more in common than we don't. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.280 And by the way, I still believe that. But I 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.800 think there's this whole thesis about social media and what 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.040 it's done in terms of dividing us. And certainly I 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.720 woke up this morning and I'm reading Axios's Morning Digest 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.360 and it's like, Hey, the squad has got Democrats terrified 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.800 because it's led him into such a far left a world. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.800 But were you like me? Did you grow up a 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.600 fan of all those guys that were performing at halftime? Yeah? Look, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.280 I mean I'll tell you something like I came. I didn't. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.800 I landed at the airport in d C on Monday, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.040 and this guy from TMZ who's always there, a nice guy, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.640 talked to him all the time, and I saw him 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.520 coming for me, and I took a vase of because 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.640 I didn't want to answer this question about the halftime show, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.720 because it's just, look, I think it's time to be Look. Look, 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.320 I did I like the halftime show? Mean? Look, do 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.960 I like the kneeling thing with Eminem? Did I like? 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:57.960 You know? Do I think? And you know what, By 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.560 the way, I don't know that Eminem has has commented, 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.720 But when I noticed was Dr Dre was playing on 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.360 the piano a few bars of Tupac, right of one 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.400 of Tupac's most famous songs. So I understand that the 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.520 but when I saw him and m kneeling there, I 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.040 took it as he's paying homage to Tupac. Now there's 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.800 also the overlap with Kaepernick, but that's the way that 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.160 I took it watching it live, because you know, a 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:26.640 part of me was like, man, I wish they would 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.600 come out to California, Love and they would have the 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.840 Tupac hologram and really that video right back in the day. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.840 When then there, That's exactly what I was thinking. I 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.960 was the whole time. I was sitting there thinking that 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.920 the problem with the hologram, okay, and they did it 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.360 at Coachella. It was a stark problem with the hologram 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:44.800 is I don't know if you can pull that off 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.080 in daylight. Oh that's a good point. Problem. But if 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.080 they had done the hologram, they might have they might 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.600 not have been able to play the second half, but 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.400 they might have had to delay it like forty or 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.520 five minutes because it would have just taken everybody out, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.880 you know, in terms of I also think that the 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.960 mentally it would have just shook everybody up, I think. 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.760 And the hologram problem too is I think it's harder 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.960 to edit the hologram, you know, I ever film it 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:06.440 is to have of it. I mean it's hard to 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:11.240 sort of the censor out. You know, you're you're around 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.400 my like we're around the same age. Like that to 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.040 you took you back to the nineties of the early track. Yeah, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.680 it's the soundtrack of that era, absolutely, and I was like, look, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.440 I don't think those guys are upstanding models for everybody. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:23.680 I don't think they claimed to be that. Like I 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.960 don't think snowpart goes around saying I want want people 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.720 to be like me, and I think people should live 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.960 like me. I do think that these guys were pioneers 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.040 in a genre that that that gave birth to sort 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.800 of what we have today and something that struck me 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:40.880 right my kids generation. I have kids nineteen whatever, and 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.080 they're sitting there laughing at us, like, who are these 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.000 old guys? You know that they don't know much about it. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.080 And I'm thinking back to the year that Paul McCartney 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.720 would did the halftime show was in the Jacksonville super Bowl, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.680 and I was there thinking like, why Paul mccartey, who's 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.120 this guy? I mean, I knew who he was, but 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.680 I'm saying, like, why Paul McCartney so and all these 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.920 people are around me going crazy Paul McCartney performing. Now 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.440 I've become those people, you know, because for them that's 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.119 were the old guys. Now, yeah, I had did. I 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.439 thought it was a logical choice simply because of the 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:14.359 Los Angeles connection, you know, the death Row connection, to 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.679 the to the entire West coast of a rap and 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.080 the like. And at the end of the day, look, yeah, 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.560 I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying these are 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.040 people that I think we should be nominating for, you know, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.200 presidential metal freedom or something. I'm not. I'm not. That's 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.639 not what I'm saying. I am saying that that music 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.800 is reflective of things that are happening in this country, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.199 particularly during that period of time, and you see it. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.000 It's reflected in their lyrics, but it's also reflected and 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.560 you know, I mean, this guy's made a career. It's 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:43.600 not just the music anymore, it's the I don't know 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.560 if you ever got to watch this commentary with Kevin 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.560 Hart during the Super Bowl that would do the side 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.440 commentary things during the during the Olympics. Yeah, it was 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.640 pretty good during the Olympics on my poem, Yeah, they 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.399 were really good. I mean, this guy's made up the 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.639 other people. You know. I people don't talk about him. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.399 I keep created a career as an actor, and this 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.119 guy got a gentleman acting career that's built on uh, 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.119 everything he's done, and so um yeah, look out of you. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.600