1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay Travis Wins and Losses. We are back 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: up and running with some of our long form podcast 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: now that the Clay and Buck Show is is rolling. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm not on the road for the entire fall, not 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: to complain, but fifteen or sixteen straight weekends in a 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: row and a college football venue, it's it's a lot 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: of days in a row to work. We bring in now, 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Senator Marco Rubio. I know he is one of the 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: foremost fans of college and pro football, if I'm not 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: mistaken in the world of politics in general, Senator from Florida. Now, 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: actually start here because there's a fantastic article that one 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: of our writers, I believe, Armando Sugaro did an out 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: kick about your son and his high school football career. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: And I know you're a diehard Dolphins fan, so I 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: want to start here and just get your read on this. 16 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: I am a diehard Tennessee Titans fan, and after the 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: loss to the Cincinnati Bengals in the playoffs, Senator, I'm 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: over forty years old and I could sleep that night 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: because I was so upset over the performance over the 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: three interceptions. I know you're a diehard Dolphins fan. What's 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: the worst loss that you can remember where you thought 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: to yourself, I'm way too old to care as much 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: as I do about something that I don't have any 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: direct impact on. Does that still get you in the gut? 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes Dolphins losses, do you remember one where you're like, 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is unbelievable. Well, you know, I 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: think what happens is like anything else, you build immunity 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: of these things, just like you build this immunity. So 29 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: I want to say it was after the four season 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: the Dolphins lost is very close playoff games to the 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers, which which I thought was probably the 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: last time that had a legitimate chance you had a 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: team that could have made a run. I mean that 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: was the year. If you remember Marino Um toward his 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: achilles tendons for and they have this team, and this 36 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: team can win some games. I mean, you've got and 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: they lose a game on the road to San Diego. 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: At least Pizza Tayanovitch misses this last second field goal. 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: You know they win that game. I think they win 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: the following week, uh and go to the to the 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think the I really think I think 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: was Steelers who ended up going that year and um, 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: but nonetheless, I UM, I can remember that vividly and 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: that really haunted me. That the following season, they just 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: got rocked by the Bills in the playoffs, and that 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: was the end of Don Shula's the tenure here with 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Was his last game. So that was a 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: bad one. And that was way back obviously, So I mean, 49 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean in the two thousands and the two thousand tens, um, 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: they really haven't had any singular game like that. They 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: really haven't been I mean, they went to the playoffs 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: twice since the last time the Dolphins won a playoff 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: game was in two thousand, yeah, for two thousand seasons, 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: so maybe two thousand and one, and they haven't won 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: a playoff games since then. It's been twenty three years 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: and they've been to the playoffs twice since then. I 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: can't recall a game. And and that's a sad thing 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: to say, you know, because I mean usually it's like, Okay, 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you got a team that you can't have a chance, 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: but like right now where you know, like when you're 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: like rooting to be like the seventh seed in the 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: road wild card team, I mean, it just tells you 63 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: how far, how toughest franchise has had it for twenty years. 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: The Titans, you know, they've been in the mix. I mean, 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: I know it's frustrating to see what happened this season, 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: how they came out at the end, but they're in 67 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: the mix. You know, they got a single on there 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: where they got some players and a core that they've 69 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: built around, and and and so you know. Uh, but 70 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I mean, it's been a while since they 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: since it mattered, and I hope that changes now. Are 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: you a believer into a I'm a believable Look, I 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: have no ways And I always tell people this, Like 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: my assessment on to is based on sixty minutes of 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: football seventeen weeks a year, right. I mean, I don't 76 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: get to see him in practice. I don't get to 77 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: It's not what I do every day. So but I 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: can tell you there are things he does that I 79 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: think are unique. I think he has an elite accuracy. 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a quick rhythm passor a great, very 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: good rhythm pass. I think he's a guy that can 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: put the ball in the hands of guys who can 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: make yards after catch. And there's a lot of guys 84 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: who made their living in the NFL with that, you know, 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: And I think the question is he has to be 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: in the right system, you know, the surrounded by the 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: right talent, with a coach that believes in him, and 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: that's structured to make it work that way. So they 89 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: spent the fifth pick in the draft on him, So 90 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: they got to try to make it work, you know, 91 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: with him and see what they can maximize from them. 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: So I think that there are some things. Look, the 93 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: one thing I mere about too, he was a freshman, 94 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: and do you remembers as well, was eighteen, nineteen years old. 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: They put him in at halftime. This kid takes where 96 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I believe it was like a twentysomething art stack. It 97 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: was like an overtime against Georgia. It was like a 98 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: wipeout sack, you know, like the craziest thing you ever saw. 99 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: And then the next play he comes in, he looks 100 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: off the safety I think hit Smith down the left 101 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: sideline for a down the championship. I mean, that was 102 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: ice blood in his things. I remember thinking, I mean, 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: this kid's nineteen years old and he's delivering, you know, 104 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: and what's happened with quarterbacks? And you're seeing it now, 105 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: you're seeing the fruits of it is and I'm seeing it. 106 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it for years. Now. These kids are 107 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: throwing into complex schemes that are working on I mean 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: they're nine, ten of eleven years old these seven on 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: seven tournaments. So by the time these guys make it 110 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: to the NFL, these guys, some of them have had 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: ten to twelve years of elite quarterback training and they 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: thrown thousands and thousands of passes um in seven on 113 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: seven in high school football where everybody's throwing the ball around. 114 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of what happened with two 115 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: of coming in as you mean, there's a guy had 116 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: grown up in that sort of system and so maybe 117 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: that moment wasn't too big for him. So I remember 118 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: that day thinking, you know, there's something unique about this guy. 119 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: You know that he's able to do that, But I 120 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: think he's got to be in the right place to 121 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: make that work. You guys ever have any cross politics 122 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: meeting Democrat Republican sports conversations on Capitol Hill? Like is 123 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: there a Democrat that you may not have much in 124 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: common with politically, but you guys are both huge sports 125 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: fans and you end up in convergence. I'm always just 126 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: kind of curious. You're obviously in the world of politics, 127 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: but is there any sort of approachment or come together 128 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: conversations surrounding what might have happened in the world of 129 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: sports over the weekend, if you've got a hearing on Monday, 130 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: like it would in a lot of other businesses, or 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: you know what they used to call water cooler conversation 132 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: back in the day when people were actually in offices. 133 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm curious how much how much discussion of sports there 134 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: is on Capitol Hill in your experience. Yeah, yeah, there is, 135 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you, I mean, obviously some people more 136 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: than others than you're always pretty busy when you're up there. 137 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: But look, the Senate is different than the House. I'm 138 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: not saying better, I'm the saying different. It's smaller. It's 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: only a hundred people, so everybody knows everybody, and eventually 140 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: you end up working with everybody there on something. The 141 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: other thing is any one senator can blow up the 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: whole place, like you know, really slow down everything and 143 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: slow down your stuff. So you really there's just this 144 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: built an incentive to like, you know, fight with someone 145 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: on one issue. But not make a permanent enemy out 146 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: of them, because like next week they may be working 147 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: with you on something else and eventually that's what happens 148 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: in the Senate is you know, you can't get any 149 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: passed unless somebody from the other side it's with you 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: it so you've got to maintain these relationships. I think 151 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: there are people that are more more sports centric than now. 152 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: There's obviously um you know uh So for example, and 153 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: then the Cory Booker played as you know, and at Stanford, 154 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: so that's someone I've talked to a few times about 155 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,679 Speaker 1: the recruiting process and then just college football at large, 156 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll talk about that especially, you know, 157 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I think about him and those guys. There's those West 158 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: Coast games. Man, you gotta stay up till like three 159 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: in the morning right to see usually I mean Stanford 160 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: comes across a couple of other times, come across time zones, 161 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: or you come across and play on the East. I mean, 162 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: if you're like a b y U fan, I mean, 163 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: you've gotta be up until three in the morning in 164 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: East Coast time on a Saturday night, you know, to 165 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: to see them play and all that. So I think 166 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: that's where you lose some of it if these guys 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: are And then we had some conversations about name, image 168 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: and likeness with the SEE people. But I wouldn't say 169 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's maybe it's just unique to me. 170 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that anybody that's follows that, um, you know, 171 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: as closely. Now, obviously with Tubberville there sort everybody gravitates 172 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: to him. I feel bad but all the time because 173 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: like ais a u S senator, everybody always wants to 174 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: talking about what do you think about this, you know, 175 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: college football related and he's a very joyful guy and 176 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: very happy to oblige everybody. But I'm like, you know, 177 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: you guys asking about Ukraine or something, you know. But 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: but but having him there has kind of made him 179 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: the magnet for both sides to kind of gratitude towards 180 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: and talk about this stuff. Fox Sports Radio has the 181 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 183 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 184 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: listen live. We're talking to Senator Marco Rubio your own 185 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: football career. I know you grew up in Miami, if 186 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and obviously, Miami is a hotbed. I 187 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: grew up in Vegas. You know, I grew up in 188 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: moved to Miami, So I was born in Miami. When 189 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: I was seven, we moved to Las Vegas and then uh, 190 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: and then we came back when I was going into 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: ninth grade. So it was kind of that deal. So 192 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: what was it like growing up in Vegas? So, I mean, 193 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, everybody has the glitz and glamour. I'm going 194 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: out there, I think for the n C Double a 195 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: basketball tournament. That's one of the things that is one 196 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: of the great times to be in Vegas. But around 197 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: the time that you were there, that had to be 198 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: an an interesting dynamic. I think your is it your 199 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: dad who worked in a casino. Yeah, both of my 200 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: parents worked in the end and my my mom was 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: made at a hotel called the Imperial Palace, which um 202 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: and then my dad was a bartender at a place 203 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: called Sam's Town. And uh, look, it was first of all, 204 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: Vegas was not what it is now. How did how 205 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: by the way, how did they make the move from 206 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: Miami to Vegas? What was the I mean, obviously, I'm 207 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: assuming maybe there was the idea that they were gonna jobs, 208 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: but they didn't mean the opportunities in Miami. Yeah. Yeah, 209 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: it was a cheaper to live there, and there were 210 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: a lot of jobs that there. Um uh, we had 211 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: three aunts, three of my mom's sisters already lived there, 212 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: and so they're like, yeah, you know, and it's true. 213 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: I mean, you get there and my dad found a 214 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: job pretty quickly. My mom as well, just wasn't hard 215 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: to find service sector jobs that paid enough for them 216 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: to own a home. And uh and and that's kind 217 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: of what happened, you know. And I do remember growing up, 218 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: like my mom telling people like, oh, I want to move. 219 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: And I look back now at Iron if she start, 220 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: I want to move to a place that's a little 221 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: bit you know, more family translate, you know, than Miami. 222 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: And I look back and I'm saying, so that Vegas, 223 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's uh, that's that's what. But but from 224 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: from their perspective, you could that she had family there, 225 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: so she had that support network. I think that's the 226 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: big thing that people forget about working class family. It's 227 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: not just about moving. You're very rarely going to pick 228 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: up and move somewhere that you don't have, you know, 229 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: your cousins your your sisters, your brothers, your aunts, your 230 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: uncle's you're not gonna do it because that's your support network. 231 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you've got to go pick up 232 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: a couch, you know, from the refrigerator, from from the store, 233 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: it's your cousin's pickup you're gonna use. I mean, you 234 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: got to go somewhere, it's you're you're going to leave 235 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: your kids with your relative. So we always had to 236 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: be around family. Maybe that was our entire support network. 237 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: And so Vegas was the only other city in the 238 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: country where we had family or they could find a job, 239 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: So it wasn't unique time to grow up there. You know, 240 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: the city was smaller than it is now now. A 241 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: fair fourth space used to fly the planes right over 242 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: the city. Uh so I remember seeing all the Air 243 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: Force planes constantly flying over us. I went to a 244 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: very mixed school, racially mixed school. UM it was I 245 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: don't know what the statistics were, but it was a 246 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: substantially you know, uh minority African American and Mexican American 247 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: UM school that a substantial majority of that. So it 248 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: was just it was I mean, I look back fondly 249 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: at my my memories of Las Vegas. Did you see 250 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: the video that went viral of the kids in Las 251 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Vegas having it announced that they no longer had to 252 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: wear masks? Did you say, did it? Did it make 253 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: you think back to when you were a public school 254 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: kid in Las Vegas? A little bit? Yeah? Except probably. 255 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I guaranteed the school that go to didn't 256 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: even exist while I was there. And that's just gets 257 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: grown stuff. But but it does it. It makes you 258 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: look back to that entire time. And so this whole 259 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: generation rights of people that kids in particular that have 260 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: come of age, I mean, they don't have any memory 261 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: of not having to wear a mask all the time, 262 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: and and I and I just think that there comes 263 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: to this point, right, but the becomes this almost I mean, 264 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: what's happened in American life today is the stuff that 265 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: you used to read in the Onion or Babylon be 266 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, what was satire or satire and ironic and 267 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: and things that you can make fun of. This stuff 268 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: like that actually happening in the real world. And so 269 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: you tune into a Super Bowl game where you're watching 270 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: this thing and I mean it's like eight thousand people 271 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: in the stadium and no one's wearing a mask. The 272 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: more famous you more are, the less masculer. And and 273 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: then thinking on Monday morning, a bunch of kids in 274 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: that city and across the country're gonna have to go 275 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: to school and wear a mask. Even the State of 276 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: the Union. I don't know if you saw these rules 277 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: they came up with to attend the State of the Union. Um, 278 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: I saw that they were going to let people go, 279 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: But what are the rules. I haven't heard them specifically. 280 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: For first, when Biden speaks, Yeah, so a negative COVID 281 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: test twenty four hours before you got to wear a mask. 282 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: You've got a socially distance where they're gonna put members 283 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: in the calorie and babers on the floor. But it's 284 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: all theater. It's all complete theater. Okay. Look, I can 285 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: tell you now for a fact, and I'm not going 286 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: to call him out because I don't want to. You know, 287 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: in the Senate Democrats, you know, when the cameras are on, 288 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: most all of the most of them wearing a mask. 289 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: But there are plenty instances in which there are no 290 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: cameras around where those masks in the where to be found. 291 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: They don't have them on, And you know, it's just 292 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a theater. At this point, It's almost like 293 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: these are the rituals that you have to perform in 294 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: this theater in order to prove you know that that 295 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: you're you know that you're in the on the right 296 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: side of it. And that's what that State of Union 297 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: thing is. It's theater. That's all it is. Uh, there's 298 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: nothing more about it. I wish the super Bowl was 299 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: in California and so far so I'm sorry, I wish 300 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: the State of the Union wasn't so far stould have 301 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: to wear else. What did you think? But I know 302 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: you watched the super Bowl, and that was one of 303 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: the things that jumped out to me. Well, first of all, 304 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: you're around my age, so I bet you grew up 305 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: listening to Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre and and Eminem 306 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: and all those guys. And so I loved the halftime 307 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: show because to my mind, the nineties and the early 308 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: two thousand's are like the greatest moments in American history, right, 309 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like everybody got along. I feel like, 310 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: by and large, you know, we didn't have this cancel culture, 311 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: this identity politics. It was everybody thought, everybody agreed that 312 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: we all had way more in common than we don't. 313 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, I still believe that. But I 314 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: think there's this whole thesis about social media and what 315 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: it's done in terms of dividing us. And certainly I 316 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: woke up this morning and I'm reading Axios's Morning Digest 317 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: and it's like, Hey, the squad has got Democrats terrified 318 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: because it's led him into such a far left a world. 319 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: But were you like me? Did you grow up a 320 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: fan of all those guys that were performing at halftime? Yeah? Look, 321 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean I'll tell you something like I came. I didn't. 322 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: I landed at the airport in d C on Monday, 323 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: and this guy from TMZ who's always there, a nice guy, 324 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: talked to him all the time, and I saw him 325 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: coming for me, and I took a vase of because 326 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want to answer this question about the halftime show, 327 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: because it's just, look, I think it's time to be Look. Look, 328 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: I did I like the halftime show? Mean? Look, do 329 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I like the kneeling thing with Eminem? Did I like? 330 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: You know? Do I think? And you know what, By 331 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: the way, I don't know that Eminem has has commented, 332 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: But when I noticed was Dr Dre was playing on 333 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: the piano a few bars of Tupac, right of one 334 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: of Tupac's most famous songs. So I understand that the 335 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: but when I saw him and m kneeling there, I 336 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: took it as he's paying homage to Tupac. Now there's 337 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: also the overlap with Kaepernick, but that's the way that 338 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: I took it watching it live, because you know, a 339 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: part of me was like, man, I wish they would 340 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: come out to California, Love and they would have the 341 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: Tupac hologram and really that video right back in the day. 342 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: When then there, That's exactly what I was thinking. I 343 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: was the whole time. I was sitting there thinking that 344 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the problem with the hologram, okay, and they did it 345 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: at Coachella. It was a stark problem with the hologram 346 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: is I don't know if you can pull that off 347 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: in daylight. Oh that's a good point. Problem. But if 348 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: they had done the hologram, they might have they might 349 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: not have been able to play the second half, but 350 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: they might have had to delay it like forty or 351 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: five minutes because it would have just taken everybody out, 352 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of I also think that the 353 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: mentally it would have just shook everybody up, I think. 354 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: And the hologram problem too is I think it's harder 355 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: to edit the hologram, you know, I ever film it 356 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: is to have of it. I mean it's hard to 357 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: sort of the censor out. You know, you're you're around 358 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: my like we're around the same age. Like that to 359 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: you took you back to the nineties of the early track. Yeah, 360 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: it's the soundtrack of that era, absolutely, and I was like, look, 361 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't think those guys are upstanding models for everybody. 362 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't think they claimed to be that. Like I 363 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: don't think snowpart goes around saying I want want people 364 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: to be like me, and I think people should live 365 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: like me. I do think that these guys were pioneers 366 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: in a genre that that that gave birth to sort 367 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: of what we have today and something that struck me 368 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: right my kids generation. I have kids nineteen whatever, and 369 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: they're sitting there laughing at us, like, who are these 370 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: old guys? You know that they don't know much about it. 371 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking back to the year that Paul McCartney 372 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: would did the halftime show was in the Jacksonville super Bowl, 373 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: and I was there thinking like, why Paul mccartey, who's 374 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: this guy? I mean, I knew who he was, but 375 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, why Paul McCartney so and all these 376 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: people are around me going crazy Paul McCartney performing. Now 377 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I've become those people, you know, because for them that's 378 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: were the old guys. Now, yeah, I had did. I 379 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: thought it was a logical choice simply because of the 380 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles connection, you know, the death Row connection, to 381 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: the to the entire West coast of a rap and 382 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: the like. And at the end of the day, look, yeah, 383 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying these are 384 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: people that I think we should be nominating for, you know, 385 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: presidential metal freedom or something. I'm not. I'm not. That's 386 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. I am saying that that music 387 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: is reflective of things that are happening in this country, 388 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: particularly during that period of time, and you see it. 389 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: It's reflected in their lyrics, but it's also reflected and 390 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, this guy's made a career. It's 391 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: not just the music anymore, it's the I don't know 392 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: if you ever got to watch this commentary with Kevin 393 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: Hart during the Super Bowl that would do the side 394 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: commentary things during the during the Olympics. Yeah, it was 395 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: pretty good during the Olympics on my poem, Yeah, they 396 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: were really good. I mean, this guy's made up the 397 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: other people. You know. I people don't talk about him. 398 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: I keep created a career as an actor, and this 399 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: guy got a gentleman acting career that's built on uh, 400 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: everything he's done, and so um yeah, look out of you. 401 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: That's a long answer to your question. Yes, I think 402 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: we've lost the capacity right to say, Okay, I like, 403 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I like something, you know, and I don't get caught 404 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: up in all the other things that are around it, 405 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: like the complificated two things say just that they lost 406 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: the music, or I like performatively should hear about I 407 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: can separate those two things. Yeah. My argument has been 408 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: I wish that everybody had the freedom that rappers do 409 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: in their creative space because I'm so fired up. And 410 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about on the show at the 411 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: idea that artists would be trying to censor other artists. 412 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: So Joe Rogan is an artist of sorts with his 413 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: show the idea that Neil Young would somehow find it 414 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: to be valedictory for him to say you shouldn't be 415 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: able to say what you're saying. It used to be 416 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: artists would protect other artists, even going back and wrap, 417 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: you know, in the Two Live Crew, uh, Supreme Court 418 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: case and all those things. And it's it's wild where 419 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: we've ended up. Where I feel like every day is 420 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: basically the Internet of blame factory. And I see who's trending, 421 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, what did they say now? Because 422 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody's trying to get canceled. I mean, 423 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw Michelle Tafoya stepped right off the sideline, 424 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: went on Tucker Carlson, actually shared her political opinions, and 425 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: almost immediately she was trending all over Twitter. She's not 426 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: even on Twitter, uh and uh, and people were going 427 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: after her because she didn't have the expected or appropriate 428 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: opinions for somebody who was in sports media. Yeah, And 429 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the problem. That's the thing we've lost 430 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: in this country is the understanding that the free speech, 431 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, your free speech as the price and the 432 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: price of it is other people's free speech, okay and 433 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: so um, And that's what's happened now, right, So so 434 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: I think what it's done is it has a bunch 435 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: of people sort of feeling boxed in, like you are afraid. 436 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean you are terrified. Most people are terrified on 437 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: depending on what your profession is on a daily basis, 438 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: that you are one sentence, you know, one old comment 439 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: made a long time ago in a different context, away 440 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: from ruining your life. I mean, I know a lot 441 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: of parents that live terrified. You know, they have some 442 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: fifteen year old has multiple social media accounts. You shut 443 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: them down, they open up any one, and you're just 444 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: terrified that one day somewhere the link like say something 445 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: that a fifteen year old might say, and that's it. 446 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: I mean, at fourteen or fifteen years of age, they're 447 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: going to get some college is gonna say I won't 448 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: admit you, and they're gonna get ruined and things of 449 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: this nature. So I think that's part of it, and 450 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: it's gotten to the point of hysteria. Right. It's so 451 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: I think of all the things in the world that 452 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: people should not be offended by as a podcast, because 453 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: the podcast is not like it's like a radio broadcast, 454 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: you know, and even that shouldn't terrify people. You just 455 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: change the station or whatever. With a podcast, you have 456 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: to take active steps to like find it, turn it on, 457 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: and listen to it. Right, So, if there's a podcast 458 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: that offends you, it's very easy to avoid it. In fact, 459 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: you've got to really work hard not to to actually 460 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: interact with it. So I don't understand that, and and 461 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: and but that's what we've gotten to. And it's funny 462 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned UM to Life crew. Luther Campbell is actually 463 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: a high school football coach in South Florida, and I've 464 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: interacted and I've interacted them quite a bit over time, 465 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: and you know, and I've actually joked to them about 466 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: it because I don't know. It was about a month ago. 467 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: We had a group of people here and I don't 468 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: know what I was asking something about. UM. I forgot 469 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: what it was. But the Alexa was on and it 470 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: heard lyrics came on and I'm sprinting to the alexa 471 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: unplugged it from the power so that UM, so that 472 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, these lyrics started playing, and I've joked with 473 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: them about it. And you talk about his case. His 474 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: case was a sheriff and broward that didn't want him 475 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: to perform, and he took it all the way to 476 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and one and on that front. So look, 477 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: I think there is a huge amount of building resentment 478 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: towards all this Canada count account cancel culture and things 479 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: of this nature. How it manifests itself over the next 480 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: few years, I don't know, but I think people are 481 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: starting to see that. I mean, you're running out of 482 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: people to cancel and things to get outraged by. And 483 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: it's really I think there's gonna be a real snap 484 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: back against it. How do we get out of it? 485 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: That's the question that I get asked so often by 486 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: so many different people, by the way of all different 487 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: political stripes and circumstances. Because one of the things that 488 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: I think is becoming quite clear is you mentioned the 489 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: idea of a fifteen year old. Right, I've got a 490 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: fourteen year old and eleven year old in the seven 491 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: year old and you well remember and everybody out there 492 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: listening who has ever been a fourteen or fifteen year old, 493 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: you do a lot of stupid things. Whether you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, black, white, Asian, Hispanic. 494 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: It's a lot of parents out there terrified that their 495 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: kids gonna do something on social media that's going to 496 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: cause a major uproar and turn into a freaking national story. 497 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw what happened to the Covington Catholic 498 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: kid for just going to Washington, d C. On a 499 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: school field trip and standing on the steps. How do 500 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: we get out of it? How how do we come 501 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: through and and emerge saying on the other side from 502 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: what feels like a a true moment of insanity in 503 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: the country. Well, I don't think there's a political answer 504 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: to it. I think there's much of what we're seeing 505 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: in these country's as a cultural problem, um and and 506 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: social problems, social cultural problem. And I always tell people 507 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: that like politics reflects our culture, it's not the other 508 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: way around, you know, and so that that that's the 509 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: first point we have to understand it. So not some 510 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: law you're going to pass that fixes is. I think 511 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: it has to be the growing awareness of people that 512 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: this is just too much already. Like I'm done with it, 513 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: I'm tired of it, I don't want to hear about it. 514 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: Don't ask me to be outraged by so and so. UM. 515 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: I think it has to start with people just sort 516 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: of refusing to play along with this stuff, just refusing 517 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: to play along with it the return of common sense, 518 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, explaining to people, look, you have you we 519 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: have to stop judging twelve, thirteen, and fourteen year olds 520 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: like they're forty year olds. And also I think a 521 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: little bit of the acceptance. I always tell people that, like, 522 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: you have to let your kids make mistakes and fail. Now, 523 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: you know, am I going to let them run a 524 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: car over the side of of of a cliff for something? No, 525 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: You're not gonna let them do terrible mistakes that are 526 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: life altering. But if people are not allowed, you can't 527 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: build resiliency. If you don't if you don't interact with 528 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, uh, the challenges and adversity and mistakes, you're 529 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: just not And I mean part of growing up is 530 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: making mistakes. And I'm not encouraging mistakes, but those are 531 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: teaching lessons and things you have to go through in 532 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: order to become And don't see what happens is if 533 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: you don't let kids make mistakes, if you don't have 534 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: if you don't let them lose, if you don't let 535 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: them fail, if you don't let them have adversity, then 536 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: what you end up with is a year old person 537 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: that's incredibly fragile, that at any time they interact with 538 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: anything that's challenging, they can't they can't confront it. That 539 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: they they're not resilient, they can't deal with it. And 540 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: then they turn around and want people are coming and 541 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: take care of it for him. Right, So I really 542 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: don't like what this person saying. Please silence them for me, 543 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to this person is an idiot, that's his opinion. 544 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't care to impact my life, and you move on, 545 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: but let'm say whatever he wants. And that that that 546 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: I think is part of a broader problem we're having, 547 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: and that is we spend and it's natural, right, but 548 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: we spend so much time sheltering people from the uncomfortable 549 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: that when they have to finally interact with it as 550 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: an adult, um that they have built a capacity to 551 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: do it. And and uh and and so they're demanding 552 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: the authority step in and just silence it and crushes. 553 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: That's also important, I think for why sports matters to 554 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: so many kids out there is it helps you develop 555 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: that ability to lose and work hard and keep coming back. 556 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: Where do you think you would be if you hadn't 557 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: ever played football? How would it? How it has changed 558 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: your life? Look, that's a really good question, and that's 559 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: a great question the reason why I care about and 560 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be sports. I honestly believe that 561 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: kids have to be good at something or try to 562 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: be work to be good at something at a very 563 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: young age. And it's not just at school. All these lessons, 564 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: all these virtues that people want to teach, you've got 565 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: to apply them or you're not developing them. And sports, 566 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: to me, is a great teacher of that. It doesn't 567 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: have to be sports. It could be imagine any this thing, 568 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: but but it has to be something that teaches you. 569 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: One of the most important things in life. Number one 570 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: is do you have to show up on time? That's 571 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: the harder to get up in the morning and go 572 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: somewhere and be there on time. If you if you 573 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: fake it that part out, you know, that's of life 574 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: right there. Number two is I want to achieve something 575 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: like I want to get from here to there. That's 576 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: my goal. Because there's a difference between you know, people, 577 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: there are people who have ambitions and then there are 578 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: people that have a drive to fulfill that ambition. You 579 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: can have ambition, but if you don't have the drive, 580 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. So you have a goal in mind, 581 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: whatever that goal might be, and that has a price. 582 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Just like going to the store, you have a pay 583 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: a price to get something. If you want to get that, 584 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: it has a price and you have to pay that 585 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: price to even have a chance to get it right. 586 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: So if your goal, and athletic is a great place 587 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: to learn it. I want to be the best football 588 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: player I can be or then and I want to 589 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: be the best or whatever I can be now. I 590 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: have to apply myself and do the things I have 591 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: to do and give up something in order to achieve that. 592 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: And learning that model, it's what you're going to use 593 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. And I think that 594 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: you asked me how sports impacted me. It wasn't athletic success. 595 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: I was not a successful athlete. I was not someone 596 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: that was going to ever play at another level and 597 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: anything of that nature. But I learned that if I 598 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: wanted to achieve something or I wanted to be a 599 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: part of something, there are things I couldn't do, and 600 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: there are things I had to give up, and there 601 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: are things I had to do that I may not 602 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: have wanted to do in order to be a part 603 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: of it and to achieve it, and and learning that 604 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: when I was sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, fourteen, fifteen, you know, 605 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: for that matter, is what I think I took away 606 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: from sports, and it's helped me every step of the way. 607 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: So you know, that's why for me, it's like when 608 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: when I lose, whether it's running for president or something 609 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't get past, or you know, some disappointment in life. 610 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: The way I view it is all right, I gotta 611 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: go back on Monday and study the film and see 612 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: what we went wrong and improve from it and get 613 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: better and apply it the next time I faced a 614 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: situation like this. I think that's the lesson I taken 615 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: from sports, and and that I hope, you know, my 616 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: kids will take away from from sports. What's that like 617 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: to run for as it it and not win? Well, 618 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean I had a lot of fun. 619 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: I mean the campaign, I met a lot of great people. 620 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: I made friends all across the country. I learned a 621 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: lot about America. I was exposed to parts of America 622 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: and things about America. You know, I'm an enormous believer 623 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: in the American dream, and so for me, it was 624 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: shocking to go out and talk to people that weren't 625 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: nearly as optimistic because they didn't love the country, but 626 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: because you know, their dad and their grandfather had both 627 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: worked at some factory somewhere, but that factory left and 628 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: now there's no jobs in that community, and everyone's telling 629 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: them to go, you know, to college and become a 630 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: software engineer, and that's not what they want to do. 631 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: So there's no job for them. So there's real anger 632 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: about why that's happening. Um. You learn about the fact 633 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: that oftentimes in life you know things you know, they're 634 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: just like in sports, you know one or two things 635 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: outside of your control. In some cases, UM determine the outcome. 636 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: And that's just the way it is. UM. So I 637 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. It wasn't fun not to win, 638 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: but but but I enjoyed every second of it. And 639 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: other than obviously the you know, the outcome. And but 640 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from that process. I think I'm 641 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: a better senator because I ran for president, because I 642 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: was exposed to issues, ideas and parts of the country 643 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: and issues across the country that I really could never 644 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 1: have known about had I not been their visitors and 645 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: had to interact with people, and so you know, it's 646 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: a lot of work. Like I said, it's a unique process. Um, 647 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: I think I actually I ran in a very unique 648 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: electoral environment with the Trump running and it was kind 649 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: of this privot moment in American political history is and um, 650 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, but but I don't regret it for one second. 651 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: I think it made me. You know, it's a lot 652 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: of hard work, but it made me know better all 653 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: the way around. I know, you're running for the Senate 654 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: now is going to be its own animal, But is 655 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: there a part of you down the road that would 656 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: be interested in running for president again? Yeah. Look, once 657 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: you've run for president, you obviously have an interest. And 658 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: for me, the interest was if I can do things 659 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: and senate, those same things I could probably do that 660 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: I can do as a president even more right because 661 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: president of the ability to influence them even more than 662 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: a sen senator can on most issues. I think the 663 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: one thing I appreciate now a lot more than I 664 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: did maybe in fifteen or sixteen, is it's not just 665 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: about wanting to do it. It's about an environment. So 666 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: I always say to people like, if you're imagining you're 667 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: the world's greatest surfer, with the most advanced surfboard possible, 668 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: and you've practice really hard. But if there aren't ways, 669 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't care how good a surfer you are, you 670 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: can't surfer. There's no ways you could you have to, 671 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: and you don't control whether those waves or not. And 672 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: I think it's the same when it comes to politics. 673 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not just that you want to run or 674 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: that you'd be a good president, but is that the 675 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: right time for someone like you? Um, And what you're 676 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: about is the timing of the environment, right. And so 677 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: that's the one thing I think I've come to appreciate 678 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: more about politics than you know. I think I can 679 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: point to a lot of people that have won presidential 680 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: elections and say they wouldn't have won either one had 681 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: they ran four years earlier, eight years earlier. So and 682 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the part. I just don't know if 683 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: that environment is ever going to be there for someone 684 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: who And in addition to that, whether that aligns with 685 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: whatever is going on in my personal life at that moment, 686 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, my family or health, whatever things you don't 687 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: control and can't predict. You were talking earlier about working 688 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: on n I L I know you are. I believe 689 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: a Florida Gator fan. Um. In terms of of college football? Um, 690 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: and uh, how do you see this playing out? Because 691 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you a story. I had a conversation recently 692 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: with some guys who are raising money. I grew up 693 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: a big University of Tennessee fan, and they said, for instance, 694 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: Arch Manning. Um, and I'm Cooper. Well, he's an awesome 695 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: guy who is arch his dad? And Arch is a 696 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: five star quarterback recruit. For people who might be listening 697 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: to us not familiar, the nephew of Eli and Peyton Manning. 698 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: Cooper is the oldest brother of of Archie sons. Um. 699 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: They said he could get ten million dollars in n 700 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: I L. That's how much demand there is for him. 701 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: The Texas is, the Alabama's, the Georgia's, I think maybe 702 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: L s U. There's a bunch of different teams that 703 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: are fighting as hard as they can to try to 704 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: sign Arch Manning. Is a quarterback getting millions of dollars 705 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: going to fundamentally change the fabric of college football. Should 706 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: there be a universal rule? Um, how would you if 707 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: you had a magic wand deal with the impact of 708 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: N I L as it spreads across the college football landscape. Well, 709 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: I think a couple of things that are inevitable. The 710 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: first is I think that genie cannot be put back 711 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: into the bottom. Okay, so that that there's is no 712 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: way to put that back. And at the end of 713 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: the day, that's just gonna You can't have an industry 714 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: that's generating billions of dollars and tens of millions of 715 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: dollars for for an organization and yet the people around 716 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: it not demand. Hey, you know, at some point I 717 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: want a piece so that we are a capitalist, free 718 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: enterprise society. So there comes a point where that's just 719 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: a fact and you can't put that genie back. So yes, 720 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: I think it's going to fundamentally all alter football. I 721 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: think there are some athletes that are going to garner 722 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: that type of attention of overwhelming majority of athletes playing 723 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: at that level are not going to qualify for that. 724 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: Then maybe they'll all get a two thousand dollars or 725 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: one thousand dollar a month, you know, and I l deal, 726 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: but really not that level. And I think they're fine 727 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: with Everybody understands there at a different point. Here's what 728 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: I think ultimately happens, and I think it happens before 729 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: maybe before the end of this decade. I think the 730 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: big the five major conferences are going to finally wake 731 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: up and realize we don't need the n C Double A. 732 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: Where do we need the n C Double A for 733 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not We have our own TV contracts. 734 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: The only thing in the n C Double A is 735 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: for us is a pain. All they do is come 736 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: up with rules and try to enforce them and try 737 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: to govern us and so forth. And I think they're 738 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna break away, and I think they're going to create 739 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: their own league separate from the n C Double A 740 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: at least the five major conferences. Is why. I think 741 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: you're seeing them all trying to expand and grow and 742 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: geographically and I think once that happens, what you're gonna 743 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: be left with is that whatever that entity is, the 744 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Big five conferences, that level of college football, and then 745 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: the rest of it are just going to be like, 746 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, normal regular college football. And I think that's 747 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: what that's where we're headed, and I think that's what 748 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: the conferences are positioning and posturing towards. And I think 749 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: at that point that n I l deal. The one 750 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: thing I would do immediately is I would allow, you know, 751 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: the schools to be involved in this process, because right 752 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: now it is the wild West. Schools and most many 753 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: states can't be involved at all. And so I've got 754 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: these athletes in the hands of these street agents or 755 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: even agents, but the schools can't be. Look, and all 756 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: these schools have community outreach. They're the program offices there are. 757 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: These are the offices that help these kids do community service, 758 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: you know, do the turkey giveaway, you know, whatever it 759 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 1: is they're doing in a community, and that they should 760 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: be allowed to also work with these kids to identify 761 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: an I L deals and to make you know, to 762 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: be involved in which ones are good, which ones are not, 763 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: and so forth. But that's my view of it. I 764 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: don't know how you put this genie back in the 765 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: bottle at this point. And um, and I ultimately think 766 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: the one one point I would make is there's gonna 767 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: company if you if you have you know, a million 768 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: dollars or let's say half a million dollars and name 769 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: image and likeness deals, I could see where school assess 770 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: to them. Look, you don't need the scholarship. Let me 771 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: use the scholarship on a kid that doesn't have those deals, 772 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: and you know, use your N I L scholarship to 773 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: pay for part of your tuition. You still have another 774 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: half a million dollars of pocket change, and that way, 775 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: I can use that scholarship on a kid that may 776 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: not have those deals to bring him into the the program. 777 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a lot of what would traditionally 778 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: be known as walk on but with a one million 779 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: dollars in an image and likeness deal, they don't need 780 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: a scholarship, and that's alsop can then go to someone 781 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: that they're trying to recruit or bring in. And UM, 782 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,959 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of where we're headed now. Um 783 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: you know, I think you'll see that here in the 784 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: next four or five years. Fox Sports Radio has the 785 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 786 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within 787 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 788 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: listen live. We're talking to Marco Rubio, senator from Florida. 789 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: UM I mentioned earlier what your high school football career 790 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: was like. Everybody, this this is to the point earlier 791 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: about sports and instilling some measure of character by by 792 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: challenging yourself. Everybody, he has a moment where they recognize, hey, 793 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to be a pro athlete. I 794 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: say everybody. There's a tiny pinprick of people that actually 795 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: end up being pro athletes, and everybody has that realization 796 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: at different ages. If you don't go on to being pro. Right, 797 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: some of us are out there and you're like, you know, 798 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: eleven or twelve years old, and you look around and 799 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: you think, boy, I'm the twelfth best player on my 800 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: little league team. The odds of me being a major 801 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: league baseball player are low, but you can still love 802 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: the game. Did you have a moment of realization when 803 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: as a football player you were like, boy, I'm not 804 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: going to be able to play in the NFL. I'm 805 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: not gonna necessarily be able to go to a high level, 806 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: high level school. I was having this conversation with my 807 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: wife the other day because she was like, man, all 808 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: these kids, because you do different levels, you travel whatever. 809 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: The kids all have this dream and then slowly they 810 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 1: all become aware of it and you end up going 811 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: pro in something other than sports, which is the good 812 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: tagline I think for the n C double A. That 813 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: is true for most people, even in college athletics. Was 814 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: there moment in time where you thought, hey, I'm not 815 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: going to be an NFL player, I better find something 816 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: else that I can be good at. Do you remember 817 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: having that moment of realization? Yeah, I do, and I 818 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: mean before I dressed that point, and I want to 819 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: forget it. I want to make one point because related 820 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: to what you're saying, and that is I'm I'm involved 821 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: a lot like I have been for a long time, 822 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: with a lot of young people recently graduated from high school, 823 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: some already in college, some playing with my son, and others, 824 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit younger than him. And the 825 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: one thing I tell him about sports is everybody you're 826 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: playing a game. This is a kids game, and there 827 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 1: comes a point and everyone that's playing where someone comes 828 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: to you and says you can't play anymore. For some people, 829 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, that happens, you know, later they get 830 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: to decide when that moment is. For other people, it 831 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: happens at sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen. So some people it 832 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: happens after three or four years in the league. Someone's 833 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna come to you and say you can't play anymore. 834 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: We're not You're done. So it's decided for you. So 835 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: at that moment what happens. So you've got to be 836 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: prepared for that moment what you do next. Now, that 837 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: moment for me, you know, came basically. I went to 838 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: play football at a small school in Missouri called Tarkyo 839 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: College isn't even open anymore. And I'm sitting there and 840 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: it's cold, and there's like less people in the stands 841 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: at our games and there our high school games, and frankly, 842 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: I think high school. My high school team, which is 843 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good high school team, especially in my junior year, 844 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: might have even been about the deepest college team. And 845 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm sort of there thinking to myself, Um, I'm here 846 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: halfway across the country, gonna graduate or get a bunch 847 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: of credits that may not even transfer when the time 848 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: comes to leave this place, that it goes under. Um, 849 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, five nine d seventy pounds. I run a 850 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, four seven maybe four six five on a 851 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: good day in the forty There's just not a lot 852 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: of people with those measurable measurables, uh playing in the 853 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: National Football League and uh much less you know, at 854 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: any program of much larger than this one. And it's time, 855 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: you know, you gott the fork in the road is 856 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: and you've gotta make a decision. So for me, it 857 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: was kind of a gradual realization. I've looked, it's just 858 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: think gonna happen, like it I need to start like 859 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: life is real now it needs to happen. So I 860 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: was it was there in Missouri, probably in December or January, 861 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: my first year in college, that I sort of realized, 862 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: like I need to get back to Florida and go 863 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: to school and get a degree because I mean, number 864 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: the numbers just don't lie. I mean, if you're five 865 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: nine one seventy year, you better be running a four 866 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: three or four to nine. I mean, I think I 867 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: don't forgot. One of my coaches told me, like the 868 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: smaller you are, the faster you better be. There has 869 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: to be something just to have a chance to play 870 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: at a bigger college, not to mention at a higher level. 871 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: So but that moment came then, and it will come 872 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: for everybody at some point. And some of it is 873 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: by choice, and some of it, you know, is a choice. 874 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Some of it is imposed on you by reality. And 875 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: and that's fine, that's okay. I mean, at the end 876 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: of the day, I've always do this is always told 877 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: my son and our kids. Is if playing football teaches 878 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 1: you all these lessons and allows you to get into 879 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: a school that you might not have been able to 880 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: get to on your grades alone, and for free. I mean, 881 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: we just won the lottery. You get to play a game, 882 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: and that that game has allowed you to learn these 883 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: lessons and go to a school you can't otherwise get into. 884 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps and and and they're going to pay for it. 885 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what more can you ask for at that point? 886 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: You know? And and obviously that's not true for everybody. 887 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 1: Some kids I do think have the ability. But it's 888 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: going back to the presidential talk that's not just on them. 889 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: For a lot of these people, is are you drafted 890 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: by the right team and the right circumstances and do 891 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: you not start suffering injuries because and what position are 892 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: you playing? Because I think it looks if you're a 893 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: quarterback that has some attributes, they're going to give you 894 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: a little longer to develop. If you're a running back 895 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: that's disposable man running backs, I mean, I mean these guys, 896 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're they've become disposable. I mean they're 897 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: going through them. They're not even drafting them high anymore. 898 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of it depends on that too. There's 899 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: just a lot of factors you don't control that determine 900 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: how far and how long you can play. If you 901 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: weren't a senator, if you hadn't gone into politics, what 902 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: do you think you would do? That's a great question. 903 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a couple of things that 904 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: probably would have wanted. I mean, I've always you know, 905 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: I always would like to say, if I could live 906 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: in some alternate universe and have to be two people, right, 907 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: I would love to have been in the front office 908 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: of because I love the process of sort of identifying 909 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: talent and putting the right talent next to each other. 910 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: It's not just about building people that are you can 911 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: put in time of putting as all star teams, but 912 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: putting together the right mix of players who complement one 913 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: another and allow you to win games as a team. 914 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: I love all of that, and so that's what that's 915 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: what I think. Maybe I would be doing it. I 916 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm being good at it, but that's 917 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: certainly something I think I would have wanted to been 918 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: a part of if I wasn't doing this. But you know, 919 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just focus on Ukraine and stuff like 920 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: that at this well, I the people will be listening 921 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: to this. One of the things I like doing for 922 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: conversations like this is people can listen to them. You know, 923 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: it can be hopefully just as enjoyable a year from 924 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: now as it is right now. But as we're discussing 925 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: what's going on, the situation in Ukraine literally hour by 926 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: hour feels like it can be constantly shifting. You've obviously 927 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: been briefed and and updated on so many different things 928 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: involving the Ukraine situation. What do you anticipate happening if 929 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: you were sort of game theory wise playing out what 930 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin's goals are here. His goal is to take 931 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: back parts of all of you, and probably not all Ukraine, 932 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: but parts of it. And the isn't a simple I mean, 933 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: if blab and Putin was on your podcast right now, 934 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: number one, I think a lot of you know, people 935 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: are returning into I would be a treat to talk 936 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: with him there. Yeah, yeah, I see how good as 937 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: English is and all that, because I know he's, uh, 938 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: he works on his English and so forth. But but 939 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: the other thing you would see, he would basically say 940 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: it this way to you, and that is Look, uh, 941 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: he's presented these guys are Russian. He's not American. He 942 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: wasn't raised in the US. I mean his view of 943 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: life in general, and the Russian view of things in 944 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: general is very different than the American viewpoint as a 945 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: country that's been invaded multiple times throughout its history, and 946 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: you know that just impacts the culture and how it 947 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: used things. In his mindset is power. We Russia should 948 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: be a powerful country, should be one of the world's 949 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: most powerful country. As a powerful countries have the right 950 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: to have a sphere of influence, to basically have some 951 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: area of the world where they dominate, not necessarily govern 952 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: those countries directly, but at least have leaders and societies 953 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: that are loyal to them. And he believed that Eastern 954 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: Europe should be part of there. There should be a 955 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: sphere influence for Eastern Europe. Response to Russia, I know 956 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: would argue that they want that in the Pacific. I 957 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: think Iran believe that they should be that in the 958 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: Middle East to some extent. And then you know, the 959 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: United States can have the Western hymns or he wouldn't care. Uh, 960 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, because he's so you guys have the facto 961 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: have that now with Canada and Mexico and Caribbean so forth, 962 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: with some exception. That's what he would argue. So Ukraine's 963 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: a part of it. It's the largest countries in Europe. 964 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: It was a key part of the Soviet Union. A 965 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of Soviet leaders came from Ukraine. And so this 966 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: whole notion that Ukraine is a separate country or separate people, 967 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: to him, it's not. It would be in his mindset. 968 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: It would be like saying, hey, you know, Texas is 969 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: its home country and Texans should be allowed to break 970 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,919 Speaker 1: away from the United States and do whatever they want. 971 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: That's what he would say to us. So that's why 972 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: I believe he will go in, and maybe by the 973 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: time this thing air is he will have gone in. 974 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: At some level, they'll find some excuse for having done it, 975 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: and he's going to install some puppet government that's loyal 976 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: to him and make sure that Ukraine never is a 977 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: part of the European Union, NATO. And that's it's pretty straightforward. 978 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: That's kind of like the direction he's headed. So I 979 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: think he'll stop there. No, I think his next move 980 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: is to try to force NATO to remove troops from 981 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: every country, and it's thirteen countries that have been added. 982 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: Um and and then I think he'll have felt like, 983 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: you know, he'll go down in history as the guy 984 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: that restored great Russia's a great global to a great 985 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: global power status. I know that you spend a lot 986 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: of time and have over your life in South Florida 987 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: with a variety of different people who have come to 988 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: the United States to escape socialism, to escape oppression, and 989 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: I think that in many ways kind of ties in 990 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: with the question we just asked about Ukraine. We saw 991 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: in those people overwhelmingly break in the direction of Donald 992 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: Trump and in the direction of the Republican Party. Do 993 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: you expect for that to continue to accelerate? We uh, 994 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: We mentioned axios and the problems that the Democratic Party 995 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: has with for lack of a better term, to catch 996 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: all of woke politics that have kind of infected and 997 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: taken over that party. What are the people in South 998 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: Florida who have come to America because of America's excellence 999 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: and opportunity say to you when you're out on the 1000 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: campaign trail, and do you think that acceleration of the 1001 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: Hispanic vote certainly in South Florida, but maybe even around 1002 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: the country is going to continue to move in the 1003 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: direction of the Republican Party. Yeah, as long as the 1004 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party's responsive to the things that people like that 1005 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: are thinking about. Because the two things. The first thing 1006 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: I know, we have wading we're going to learn here 1007 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: at some point that ethnicity or even the color of 1008 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: your skin is not what determines how people vote. Right, 1009 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: So when you when people say, oh, look at the 1010 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: Hispanics that have flipped over, Yeah, there's some aspect of 1011 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: their experience, right. They came from or their parents came 1012 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: from a country that went far left, and you're trying 1013 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: to convince them that America sort of this terrible place, 1014 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, no, no, I know what a 1015 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: terrible place looks like, this is not a terrible place, 1016 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 1: and why would you screw this up? You guys have 1017 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: a great place. So there's no doubt that there's that aspect. 1018 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: But the one that I think people don't really entirely 1019 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: embraces the Hispanic community. Their primary identity on an hourly 1020 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: and daily basis, and certainly on a political basis, is 1021 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: that they're working class small business owner. That's their identity. 1022 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: And so, you know, people working class people that didn't 1023 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: go to Harvard or Yale and don't listen to CNN 1024 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: or follow Twitter on a daily basis, they think some 1025 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: of the such as insanity. They think it's insanity and 1026 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: and they rebel against it. But it's not because they're Hispanic. 1027 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: It's because they're working class or small business owners and 1028 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: and and that's their identity. And so I think what 1029 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: you're going to continue to see here is that that 1030 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: vote is going to increasingly resemble the vote of working 1031 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: class people across the country, of every ethnicity, of every race, 1032 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: of every background, because the primary identity is not their ethnicity, 1033 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: it's the fact to get up in the morning and 1034 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: go to work somewhere, either in their own small business 1035 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: or to provide for their families. And some of the 1036 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: people that are in charge seem to live on another planet. 1037 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: And and and I think that that's what you're seeing 1038 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: evidence of. And I think that trend is going to 1039 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: continue as long as the Democratic parties held hostage by 1040 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: a group of committed revolutionary Marxists who want to fundamentally, 1041 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: you know, tear down the country and rebuild it into 1042 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: something very different. Well, last question for you last night. 1043 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: I know I said I want this to be timeless 1044 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: in some ways, but I do think this question is 1045 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of timeless. We talked a lot about sports with you. Uh. 1046 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: The transgender issue is something that OutKick has been covering, 1047 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: and we've certainly been talking about a lot on Clay 1048 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: and Buck. And right now there is a University of 1049 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania men's swimmer who decided to become a woman that 1050 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: is poised to set all time records for women's swimmer 1051 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: again biological male swimming as a as a woman. Uh, 1052 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: it's as if the world of sports is afraid to 1053 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: even touch it. You know, the ESPN, which covers the 1054 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: intersection of sports and politics all the time. I can't 1055 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: tell you the number of times I heard, Hey, so 1056 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: and so athlete is not going to go to the 1057 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: Trump White House, as if it were a lead sports story. 1058 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: They basically ignored it. Um, what should happen in the 1059 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: world of of sports? And I think this could be 1060 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: an interesting, you know, sort of breaking point because what 1061 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: it represents, Senator to me is you have to choose 1062 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: a side. Right, You're either in favor of Title nine 1063 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: and women's athletics and and and and women being able 1064 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: to achieve the highest level in their sport, or you 1065 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: are going to allow a biological man to potentially come 1066 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: in and set all time records. And we talked earlier 1067 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: about how many people feel like they can't speak out. 1068 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: We talked to a lot of the girls on this team. 1069 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: We did a story for them at out Kick and Senator. 1070 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: They said, Hey, we're not even willing to use our 1071 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: own names here because we want to go to grad school, 1072 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 1: because we want to go get jobs, and we're afraid 1073 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: of the top Google result for our name being so 1074 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: and so is transphobic. They that's not what this is about. 1075 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 1: But we've spent our entire lives trying to compete to 1076 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: win championships, and now this biological and is coming in 1077 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: and he's dominating in women's sports. How crazy is it 1078 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: that we've reached this point in athletics. Well, I think 1079 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: the crazier part is not that we've reached the sport 1080 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: and athletics, is that we've reached a point in our 1081 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: culture where simple physiological and biological facts we're being asked 1082 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: to ignore them. Okay, one thing is a difference of 1083 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: opinion and the other thing is that it's just absolutely 1084 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: insisting that everybody must ignore physiological and biological facts established 1085 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: in science, you know, and we've got to believe in 1086 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 1: science or some things and not another's. Men and women 1087 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: are different. One is not better than the other. They're 1088 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 1: equal in the eyes of God, they're equal in the 1089 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: eyes of the law. They have the same rights, but 1090 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: they are there's differences. There are things that physiologically most 1091 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: women can do better than most men, and vice versa. 1092 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: And you see it time and again in the athletics. 1093 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: Clearly a man is is if you look at the 1094 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: one times of men versus women in track, men's times 1095 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: are really faster than women. Is there a really fast 1096 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: woman that's faster than the lowest man's. Yeah, I'm sure 1097 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: there is. But we're talking about buy and large, the 1098 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: rules of the road and the engagement. So what we 1099 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: set up a situation now where if someone says, I 1100 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 1: identify as a woman, even though you're a man in 1101 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,800 Speaker 1: every way, I mean, according to the rules these people 1102 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: have created. And you know, if Lebron James says I 1103 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: want to play in the w n b A, They're 1104 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to let him play in the w N 1105 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: b A. And I assure you if he played in 1106 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: the w n b A, he would quickly, you know, 1107 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: hold every record that league has ever said, and he 1108 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: would dominate those games, not because he's a better human 1109 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: being or a more important than being, because he has 1110 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: physiological advantages over the people he's playing against. By the way, 1111 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: those things extend even even within the gender. So there's 1112 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: a reason why we break up boxing and mixed martial 1113 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: arts into into weight classes, because you know, Floyd Mayweather 1114 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: may be a great fighter, but you know, if you 1115 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 1: put him in a ring with Mike Tyson and his prime, 1116 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: it's not going to be a very good fight because 1117 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 1: the heavier guy has some physiological advantages. And I don't 1118 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: care if Mike Tyson identified as a middleweight, Were're gonna 1119 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: letim fight in the middle way because he would hurt 1120 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: the middle way because he was bigger, stronger, and was 1121 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: able to impose himself. And so I just think we've 1122 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: got to get back to that realization. And and and 1123 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: I think what the one thing we've lost the capacity 1124 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: is to say one thing is to say, look, okay, 1125 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 1: I get it, you identify as a woman, you want 1126 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: to you're in the process of same shape, changing your gender, 1127 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: to all kinds of treatment. I don't know anything about 1128 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: that stuff, man, but I'm gonna treat you with dignity 1129 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: and respect because you're a human being and you deserve that, 1130 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and the laws should protect you as 1131 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: much as anybody else. But what you can't do is 1132 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: you can't impose that on everybody else. This is not 1133 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: This is no longer about just respecting the individuals. It's 1134 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: now about imposing the views of one group on everybody 1135 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: else and force and telling everybody else everybody must now 1136 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 1: change the way you live, work and do sports because 1137 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: some people feel this way. That's that's that's the point 1138 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: where you get that right now, And that's where the 1139 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: point we're at right now. And um, you know, I 1140 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: don't think I don't know how this thing works itself through, 1141 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: but but it starts getting absurd. I think that's what's 1142 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And if you're gonna start to see absurdity, 1143 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: that that will be impossible to ignore or you're going 1144 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: to destroy women athletics. Senator Marco Rubio, I've really enjoyed 1145 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: the chat. We'll have to get together at some point 1146 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: in the future. Maybe when we're in d C. But 1147 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,479 Speaker 1: in the meantime, I hope your Gators have some good luck, 1148 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: but not too much good luck, because at some point 1149 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 1: I'd like for Tennessee to beat Florida once every Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1150 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: Let me tell you if he's watching now, I mean 1151 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: he's listening, he's listening to somebody's I mean, I don't 1152 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: even know. I I don't want to violate the answer 1153 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: double A rules or whatever. So um, because I'm an 1154 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: alumni of the school and all that. But but Florida's 1155 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: now in the running. I hadn't even seen that the 1156 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: most recent update. Have you met Billy Napier yet, by 1157 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: the way, I have not. I have not, but I 1158 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 1: hear great things about him, and um and I think 1159 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: you know, Florida in our facilities, Uh, I mean are 1160 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna be second to none. So um uh look, I mean, 1161 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: if you're listening now, March, I mean, I just think 1162 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,239 Speaker 1: Florid us a good choice. I mean, just check it out. Man. Uh, 1163 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 1: that is Marco Rubio making his play for arch Manning. 1164 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: I appreciate the time of a man. Have a good 1165 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: weekend him and uh and a good time figuring out 1166 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen here as we roll towards the midterms. 1167 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: Thanks Ma, Man, thank you. I'm Clay Travis. This has 1168 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: been wins and losses.