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Speaker 1: podcast March sevent March Madness and Crazy Trade just happened.

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Speaker 1: just my name and yeah, anything else, No, I think

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Speaker 1: that's just about it. Well, one of the craziest trades

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams is going to the Raiders, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: play with Davante Adams. They give him a huge new deal.

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Speaker 1: I have two initial reactions after I saw it. Let

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Speaker 1: I trade Davantae Adams. I know he can threaten to

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Speaker 1: I would not have done this deal if I'm Green Bay. Now,

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Speaker 1: he talks, he just can beat sound very phony, though

425
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: I will always like I do think Russell loves football.

426
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: I do think it means everything to him. I do

427
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: think he does everything humanly possible to be a great

428
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: football player. He's not you know, he's never gonna get

429
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: in trouble. Like I I respect the player and I

430
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: respect the person. I'm not very religious, but I was

431
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: watching some of his Denver Bronco and obviously when his

432
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: dad passed away, it's been a huge moment, Like my

433
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: dad passed away. Anytime you I have some shared experience

434
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: with the guy, like I, I can relate to the

435
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: power of that right, and I do respect the player.

436
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Fame level player. But

437
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: as I said over and over, I think he forced

438
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: his way out of there and basically over both press

439
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: conferences yesterday, I watched Russell's and I watched Seattles, and

440
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: I watched Seattle and Pete be very very defiant, be

441
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: very very stubborn. Well, guess what, most guys that are

442
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: seventy years old, that have been making fifteen million dollars

443
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: for a decade and have a hundred million in the

444
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: bank are gonna be stubborn. They're not going to be

445
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: the most open to new ideas and changing their philosophies

446
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: because their philosophies accumulated all that wealth. Their philosophies led

447
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: to the National Championship and the Super Bowl and the

448
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: other Super Bowl, Berth and all the winning seasons in

449
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: their mind, right or wrong, But I do after watching

450
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, who is not handling this well, who acted

451
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: like you guys are crazy to think that we wouldn't

452
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: trade Russell Wilson. Well, yeah, Pete, unless he's demanding that

453
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: he leaves, which I don't necessarily think that. He went,

454
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: like in black sharpie on a white board in Pete's office,

455
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: you have to trade me. And even they kind of

456
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: admitted it was just kind of known he wasn't gonna

457
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: sign an extension. It was probably time to move on.

458
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: But listen, for as much as Russell wanted a new opportunity,

459
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: and I'm pro new opportunities, I think it's very very healthy.

460
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: I think seeing new people, being around new people, new

461
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: ideas is healthy for all of us. Right, anyone that's

462
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: ever changed jobs knows knows that it's I would say, uh,

463
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: motivating is probably the wrong word, but vigorating. It just

464
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: adds some juice to your life, something new. Professionally, Uh,

465
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: it's it can it can be very very healthy. And

466
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: watching Pete Carroll, who's not into new who's into doing

467
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: it how I've done it, I get where Russell Wilson's

468
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: coming from. So while I still don't love, you know,

469
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: they asked him this legacy he wants to lead. He

470
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: said he's gonna want to win four more Super Bowls

471
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: there's a cheesiness to him that doesn't vibe with me.

472
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: There is a star football player that i'd want on

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00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: my team that vibes with me. And watching Pete Carroll,

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00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: I understand I wouldn't want to be around Pete Carroll

475
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: anymore if I was into because I think there's a

476
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: phony element to Pete Carroll. I think there's an element

477
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: of like, Pete, do you even realize the way you

478
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: sound right now? You guys are claiming that you like

479
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: Drew Lock coming out of college. I would not be

480
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: admitting that right now. You just traded Russell Wilson. Nobody

481
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: on God's Green Earth that supports your football team wants

482
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: you to blow Drew Lock in front of all of us.

483
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: We don't. We don't believe he's any good. Ultimately, traded

484
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and if Russell Wilson is just solid, you're

485
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: gonna lose the trade. You're also seven years old, like

486
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: I honestly think Seattle is gonna suck next year. I

487
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be terrible. And ultimately, did this breakup

488
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: have to happen? I understand why Russell wanted to break

489
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: up after watching Pete. I would have wanted to break

490
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: up too. I'm coming around. I get it now watching

491
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: the Broncos, I'm rooting for Nathaniel Hackett, bald guy. There

492
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: is no lock that he's any good. You would say

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00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: historically new coaches, you know, probably under fifty, that he's

494
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna be any good. Now he's inheriting a lot of

495
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: talented players, and he gets to coach Russell Wilson, so

496
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: he does get some advantages. But ultimately, the first time

497
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: head coach is also gonna be calling plays. It's gonna

498
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: be a lot going on. I just I think that

499
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Denver obviously, I mean, they probably should be a playoff team.

500
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: Seattle is in major shambles, and honestly, their press conference

501
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: was embarrassing. It really was. It was, you know, the

502
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: whole thing like they kept talking about, like their philosophies

503
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: and the guys on the team. It's like, guys, the

504
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: only thing anyone cares about is Russell Wilson. Why did

505
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: this happen? And I could see Ussell Wilson was just

506
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: tired of being around Pete because and Pete even mentioned this,

507
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: like in college, guys are gone every four or five years.

508
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: We're in the NFL like, let's face it, Richard Sherman,

509
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, now Russell Wilson, like they keep having bad

510
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: breakups with Pete Carroll, he doesn't have bad breakups Andy,

511
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: and he breaks up with a lot of players. It

512
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: feels pretty normal. Kyle Shannon has now broken up with

513
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 1: several players, feels pretty normal. Sean McVeigh has broken up

514
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: with some players, feels pretty normal. He a lot of

515
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: these these guys keep signing free agent contracts. They all

516
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: value him, not quite the way it feels in Seattle,

517
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, because they this lovey dovey you know, we're

518
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: all best friends, compete and everyone. Pete you're You're a

519
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: stone cold killer. You will you'll cut anybody you literally have.

520
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman traded like just just I think

521
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: he puts on this smile face so he can avoid

522
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: being talked about like he's Belichick. Like and I'm not

523
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: saying he's Belichick the coach, I just mean the way

524
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: he thinks about football. So I watching Pete arrow Man,

525
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: I I gravitated towards Russell's side. I I really did

526
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: a couple of moves. I wanted to talk about one

527
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: was really impressive in one I really question for a

528
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: long period of time, and they earned this. The Raiders

529
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: were a joke Al Davis's latter years after he traded

530
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: John Gruden to the first several years of Mark Davis,

531
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: they were a complete embarrassment. They just did dumb shit.

532
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: They didn't win any games, and they just felt overmatched

533
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: for the rest of the league. And then del Rio

534
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: kind of just stabilized them a little bit, but they

535
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: still kind of had some Raider vibes to him. And

536
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: then they got Jon Gruden, which felt like gonna take

537
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: him to the next level. And the reality of the

538
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: John Gruden higher is it's one of the most underwhelming

539
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: things we've ever witnessed. Because of the hype behind John Gruten.

540
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: Daddy was gonna come in just kick ass, take names, dominate.

541
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: That didn't even becomes to happening, and then he gets

542
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: fired and then ultimately they made the playoffs. But Mark

543
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: Davis somehow was convinced the guy and you know, you know,

544
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels put on some LP's over the years. Looks

545
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: a little different, but get Josh McDaniels out of New

546
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: England with his guy Ziegler also from New England and

547
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: build like paths with the Raiders. And as we've seen,

548
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I've said this over and over, Like I even talked

549
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: to a buddy recently. There's like, man, I heard some

550
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: stories about Brian Flores at the Combine, not good sent

551
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: over and over, treating people like assholes, Matt Patricia, people

552
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: can stand the guy Joe Judge. I don't have much

553
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: inside information the way he treated people, but I just

554
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: he was just terrible coach. But like a lot of

555
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: the Belichick guys are just overwhelmed, are are just mean. Uh,

556
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: they try to be something they're not. And maybe Josh

557
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: just because of the separation now from the Denver period

558
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: and he brings this guy that he's known since high

559
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: school just are a little more stable and have some

560
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: more perspective and are not out to prove themselves all

561
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: or nothing every day, Like it's kind of a slow

562
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: and steady race. Well, they made a move, actually several

563
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: moves that was like, that's just a high level chess

564
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: game that John Gruden and Mayock we're not doing. You

565
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: know why, because they I kept saying in the John

566
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Gruden era, his biggest downfall was not understanding value like, Bro,

567
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: you don't need to draft that guy at fifth overall.

568
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: You could get him at You don't need to draft

569
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: Leather when it's seventeen. You could have got him at

570
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: thirty five. Like this is a there's a there's the

571
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: game that's played on the field, and there's the game

572
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: that's played off the field. And honestly, John Gruden on

573
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: the field wasn't that terrible off the field embarrassment? Signing

574
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: free agents in early in the draft hit on some

575
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: late round picks, him in mayok. But you make your

576
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: money early in the draft, especially when you're drafting high.

577
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: And I watched Ziegler and Josh come in and do this.

578
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: Yannick Docay was never gonna play a snap for the Raiders.

579
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: He does not play the run, and think about the

580
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: Rangers like the Patriots, doesn't play the run and it's

581
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of a reckless pass rusher. So they flip him

582
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: and they signed Chandler Jones and get uh the corner

583
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: rock your Sin who was once a really high pick.

584
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: So they get Chandler Jones, who is a superior player

585
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: to Nick who they know because they were around in

586
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: New England and can play the run. And then they

587
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: get this corner who they would have cut you, they

588
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: would have got rid of them, but they get this

589
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: corner who has not played well. But like I like

590
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: taking flyers on guys that were drafted high, especially at

591
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: positions like corner, wide, receiver, guard center, and maybe you

592
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: can resurrect them. So that is the type chess moves

593
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: that would never have been played the last four or

594
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: five years on the Gruden Watch yet, John and I

595
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: don't know how Josh is gonna be as a head coach,

596
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: but in terms of just running an operation, him and

597
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Ziegler hat tip. Very impressive little operation, A move that

598
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily hate, but I think it was pretty bold.

599
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: I am all four and we're gonna talk about the

600
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: Rams in a second. Say this all the time being aggressive.

601
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: Windows are short in the NFL. Guys get injured. When

602
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to compete for Super Bowls, put

603
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: all your chips in the middle of the table, take

604
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: big swings. Look at the Chargers went after Khalil signed J. C. Jackson.

605
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Why their window is now They have this young rookie

606
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: quarterback who's on a cheap deal. Well, the Bills have

607
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: paid their quarterback but their window is now. They're right there.

608
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: There were thirteen seconds away from being in the a

609
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: f C Championship Game, hosting the a f C Championship Game,

610
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: probably beat the Bengals and would have been in the

611
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Hell, they might be Super Bowl champs and

612
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 1: they know it. So they're just a couple pieces away.

613
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: Most teams are not a piece away for a long

614
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: period of time. Those Brady Belichick teams were always like

615
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: a piece or two away. It's always why they go

616
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Greta Reva's, they go get you know whoever. Right, the

617
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Bills probably feel we're a piece away. And because the Buffalo,

618
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's regently they had to overpay,

619
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: but I'm all for them going to get a von

620
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: Miller Chandler Jones. Being in that market of getting a

621
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: sweet defensive pass rustaurant behind it. Paying von Miller fifty

622
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: one million dollars guaranteed, though, is pretty insane. Now, a

623
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: huge part of free agency is supply demand. Market value

624
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: is driven up by multiple people wanting you. Right, if

625
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: you're worth five and two people want you, know, let's

626
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: just say this, you have something that's worth five, Well,

627
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: if one person wants it, and he's willing to pay

628
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: five dollars. The price is five dollars. Well, if two

629
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: people wanted and someone's like, well, i'll give you five

630
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: seventy five, and the other guy goes, well, i'll give

631
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: you six, obviously just starts going up. No different free agency,

632
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: so multiple people want von Miller, his price went up,

633
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: and let's face, von Miller should send a thank you

634
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: letter to less Need and Sean McVeigh because if von

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Speaker 1: Miller's season would have ended with the Denver Broncos, he's

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Speaker 1: probably getting half of what he got. But instead he

637
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Speaker 1: went to the Rams was getting like a sack of

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Speaker 1: game in the playoffs. Everyone's watching these playoff games, and

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Speaker 1: his value went up because he is an all time

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Speaker 1: great player. But he's also gonna be thirty three years

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Speaker 1: old and they gave him fifty five million. So now,

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Speaker 1: when you're already investing this much in your starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: anything less than him being like a pseudo pro bowler

644
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Speaker 1: and being healthy for your stretch run is a disaster

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Speaker 1: to me. The the risk is really really high, it

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Speaker 1: really is. And this is a guy major injury towards

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Speaker 1: a c L once upon a time, and then two

648
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: years ago had the major injury that knocked him out

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Speaker 1: for the season. So you're getting an older player who

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Speaker 1: has been multiple major injuries. I get the philosophy, and

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the willingness to take the swing. I just

652
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: think the risk level on this one's pretty high because

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Speaker 1: when you're twenty to thirty million dollars guaranteed, no issue

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Speaker 1: with those price points. Once you start getting fifty sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollar price points of guaranteed money that that is,

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00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: that's what high end guys get paid on their own

657
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: team to get extended. They never hit free agency. That's

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: what the sweet players get to get extended. I think

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Speaker 1: the risk there is if he's healthy, it'll be awesome

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Speaker 1: and you and you could be like, John, isn't that

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Speaker 1: you couldn't you say that about every guy? Well? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but when you sign a guy that's twenty seven years

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Speaker 1: old or twenty eight years old, you feel a little

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Speaker 1: bit better about his health than a guy you know

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Speaker 1: well over thirty. So Brandon being Sean McDermott all in

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Speaker 1: on von Miller. Now, part of it is the leadership,

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Speaker 1: the resume. He brings a lot to the table, but

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00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: so did J. J. Watt. Last year, and I think

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Speaker 1: he only got twenty two million dollars guaranteed. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is the l A Ramps as someone that just

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Speaker 1: follows the forty niners closely, and it's like, what the

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00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: hell are we doing with Jimmy Garoppolo here? You know,

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Speaker 1: you could have used that cap space to go sign

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Like let's take some swings here, because again

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Speaker 1: the the time is now. No team and I repeat,

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00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: no team is more aggressive than the l A Ramps.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you just look up and Allen Robinson,

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00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: who is like, you know, a lesser keenan Allen. But

679
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: two years ago in two thousand nineteen and two thousand twenty,

680
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: playing with Mitch Trabiskie caught two hundred balls and thirteen touchdowns.

681
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Guy can play. And you put up with Matt Stafford

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00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: and now Cooper Cup and Tyler Higbee and Acres will

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00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: be healthy. That offense is prolific, That offense is gonna

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00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: be They're going nowhere, and I think two teams. There

685
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: were some reports about the one thing Tom Brady did

686
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: the moment he resigned was basically become their number one recruiter.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Tampa in l A are just operating

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00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: like nothing less than the Super Bowl matters. They're operating

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Speaker 1: like they're the l A Dodgers of the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. And you can tell me why

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00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't always work. Was working for those two teams

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00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: because they've won the last two fucking Super Bowls. So

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: like to me, like we gotta chance age the prudent

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00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick philosophies that a lot of teams operate. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing when you got Tom Brady, no one

696
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: else will ever have a Tom Brady again. Tampa never

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00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: will either once he retires. So you got like this

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Speaker 1: new modern day NFL. And listen, I'm not random. Free

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00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: agents has given a bunch of money, but specific guys

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Speaker 1: who you know can make an impact quote unquote overpay

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Speaker 1: a little bit is a good philosophy that works because

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Speaker 1: I don't care how many draft picks you have. We

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Speaker 1: already know the hit rate on draft picks is at best.

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Speaker 1: If you have eight draft picks and four of them

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Speaker 1: turn not to be good players, one's a pro bowler

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Speaker 1: and the other three are starters, that's a hell of

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Speaker 1: a draft. That draft is an outlier. Most drafts you

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Speaker 1: get like two starters. So the way these teams are operating,

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Speaker 1: getting guys that you know they can play, that you

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Speaker 1: know they can produce, and it's back to the bills thing. Like,

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Speaker 1: my only issue was the amount of money, not that

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00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: they acquired Von Miller Right. Chandler Jones Nick, I don't

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Speaker 1: know of Rock. I haven't studied cornerback play. He clearly

714
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: is the underachiever. But all these guys can play now,

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Speaker 1: depending on the scheme and what you need him to do.

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Speaker 1: But I know, I don't know. Cabon Thibodeaux might be

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Speaker 1: a great player, might be a bust. We have no

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. I talked to Hi buddy the other day.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I think he might be a

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Speaker 1: little overrated. You can just you never know. Tool was

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Speaker 1: can't miss until we watched him play, and now he's

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Speaker 1: a miss, you know, or at least average at best,

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Speaker 1: especially relative to the guy they passed on him for

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Speaker 1: I just I would if I owned a team, I

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Speaker 1: would tell my GM, let's go after guys that we

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Speaker 1: know about, guys that we know in the NFL. Be

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Speaker 1: aggressive now, don't be reckless, but be aggressive. Look, Ramps

728
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Speaker 1: target Allen Robinson, the Eagles target us On Reddick, Like

729
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Speaker 1: you just find specific players and put all your chips

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Speaker 1: in the middle table, and you know that that's a

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Speaker 1: plug and play guy. I like that philosophy. If I

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Speaker 1: wish more teams would do that, they are good some teams. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you don't have money, like you don't have money,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs don't have any cash. Cowboys are clearly experiencing what

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00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: happens when you overpay guys, like they're overpaid Zeke, overpaid Doc,

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Speaker 1: Like you gotta cut Blairs and Cutta Mark and trade

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00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper and cut Lyle Collins and you know you

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Speaker 1: can't resign Randy Gregory. Like that's that's what happens when

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Speaker 1: you pay a bunch of guys a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: when you pay great players, Like do I love paying

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00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: eighty million dollars total to Aaron Rodgers Davante Adams? Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's probably a tough pill to swallow, but at least

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams, so I know every time

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Speaker 1: I step on the field, I have the two best

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Speaker 1: players on the field. So free agency, man, it's just

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00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: not many great players, but the few I just don't

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00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: think enough teams were all over. What a week I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm honestly a little worn out. It's been just and

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about it and watching it. But free agency.

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Speaker 1: You know they say the NFL's king. What do they say, Uh,

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00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: heavy is the head that wears the crown. Well, the

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: NFL's crown is pretty big, so their head is heavy

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00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: because this they're running this. You know what, NFL's in charge.

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Speaker 1: They're setting the tone for pro sports in America right now.

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Speaker 1: What Russell Wilson, Khalil Mack, Davante Adams will enter the

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Speaker 1: f C West. Wow. All I can say is wow,

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