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Speaker 1: spending a fortune. I do have that one little caveat,

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Speaker 1: other one is the bill that included Ted Cruise's amendment.

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Speaker 1: debating some version of the House bill. I won't go

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Speaker 1: through it. The President outlined at while we were on

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Speaker 1: the air in this hour yesterday, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: repeat everything that's in it because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: take up all the airtime. So we'd have to assume

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Speaker 1: they fix that in conference. Never trust anything that goes

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Speaker 1: to the the conference, of my view. Or they're now floating

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Speaker 1: a third idea, which is the skinny bill on healthcare reform,

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Speaker 1: which is they would repeal Obamacare's individual and employer mandates.

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Speaker 1: They would also scrap the medical device tax. Then the

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Speaker 1: House and Senate lawmakers would go to conference. Now it's

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Speaker 1: not clear that what that final plan. Nobody has any

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Speaker 1: idea what that thing is gonna look like. But for

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Speaker 1: them that they they gotta pass up thing. The fact

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Speaker 1: every reason to be frustrated and angry and upset. The

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Speaker 1: fact that you know, if John McCain is gonna say

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Speaker 1: Washington's incapacity is talk radio and talk television and is livelihood.

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Speaker 1: Early Senator, we've had on this program, Poor doctor Josh Umber,

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Speaker 1: I've taken more hours of this man's life and time

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Speaker 1: for him to come on this program since and explain

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Speaker 1: how a good health care cooperative can work at fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars a month per adult issues of pre existing conditions,

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Speaker 1: unlimited care. You have your doctor, cell phone number, concierge

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Speaker 1: care for every American man and woman for fifty bucks

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Speaker 1: a month, a couple of with catastrophic care for cancer,

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Speaker 1: So for two wonder bucks a month maximum. At that

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Speaker 1: that out? Years and year, well over a decade, probably

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Speaker 1: is you've got this other class in Washington. They don't

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Speaker 1: only seem to care a whole lot. There's so much animosity,

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Speaker 1: so much hatred towards this president right now. The five

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Speaker 1: forces I keep telling you about, the deep state, the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party the most corrupt news media, weak, timid, spineless,

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Speaker 1: visionless Republicans that need to take responsibility to you Senator

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Speaker 1: McCain's words for the incapacity. And then, of course the

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Speaker 1: never Trumper is that we are dying for the day

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Speaker 1: they can stick their finger in the face of somebody

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Speaker 1: a vote of a Trump and say, see you dumb ignorant.

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Speaker 1: Remember on Saturday Night Life, Jane, you ignorant. I can't

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Speaker 1: even say it anymore, be politically incorrect. I'm get in trouble,

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Speaker 1: I get fired for repeating dan Ackroyd. But you got

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Speaker 1: the point. Sad. You know you've we now live at

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Speaker 1: the Deep States so bad. You've got Obama CIA director

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Speaker 1: urging Trump officials to stage of mutiny if Mueller is fired,

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Speaker 1: even though Mueller is as more corruption. I've never seen

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Speaker 1: a guy hire be so blatantly biased in his hirings

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's attorney. You know, Republicans are so weak. The

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Speaker 1: only one that asked for any type of Ukrainian collusion

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Speaker 1: investigation is Senator Grassley. Good for him, a little late,

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Speaker 1: but good for him. And meanwhile, there was a meeting

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Speaker 1: information was forwarded to the d n C in the

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Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. Never mind Uranium one and what goes on there. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Scaramucci, the new communications director arm with US, yesterday

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Speaker 1: said that questions about the attorney general. I know the

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Speaker 1: president has been at odds with the attorney general, and

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Speaker 1: I get it, and I understand it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of it was about the recusal issue, and I think

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Speaker 1: that recusal decision was one of the worst decisions I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen from an attorney general. Of course, he didn't

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Speaker 1: want Hillary Clinton in the campaign, alright, so he made comments,

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Speaker 1: But his attorney generally has a has a duty to

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Speaker 1: enforce the law. And you get Rosenstein, friend of Comey,

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Speaker 1: is a friend of Muller, and now we got a

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Speaker 1: special counsel and and we've literally got stagnation. I've always

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Speaker 1: liked Jeff Sessions. He is a good, honorable, and decent man,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he did it for all the reasons

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Speaker 1: that he believed it. I think it was the wrong decision,

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Speaker 1: but that's not stopping Jeff Sessions from going forward with

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Speaker 1: Hillary's email server and classified top secret Special Access Program information.

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Speaker 1: On it, mishandling of it, destroying, of it, destroying. You know,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his campaign never deleted thirty three thousand emails,

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Speaker 1: never took a hammer to blackberries or iPhones, never used

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Speaker 1: person will investigate later in the program today, who literally

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Speaker 1: had broken beaten up hard drives in his garage and

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Speaker 1: the FBI have now confiscated him and he wants him back,

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Speaker 1: and other devices that have been mishandled. None of that

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Speaker 1: ever happened. You're upholster, well that ever changed? You? Are

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Speaker 1: you trying to convince this six according to Gallop, will

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Speaker 1: show the Gallop headline that shows a record low approval

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Speaker 1: rating as of this weekend. That means that almost two

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Speaker 1: thirds of Americans don't support the president right now. That's

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Speaker 1: just to appeal to the base from now on now

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Speaker 1: and again, you want that to say, the President said

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Speaker 1: called my cell phone and congratulated an important word conceded.

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Speaker 1: I know that they can't they can't let go these

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Speaker 1: election results. Now, as we talked about, Brian, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to talk about Russia. You're and you're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about emails, and you're gonna talk about investigations,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about actually the world talking about Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: I didn't bring up Russia. No, no, no, you're your

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Speaker 1: your network is obsessed with that. You're you're invested in it.

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Speaker 1: All the chirons say it constantly. All the guests talk

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Speaker 1: about there's a big stories. It doesn't mean it's not

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Speaker 1: a big story. It's not a big story. What makes

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Speaker 1: it big? And you can't tell me that this is

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Speaker 1: about the campaign, and then we're not talk about Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: The reason I just raised her is because when she

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Speaker 1: called to concede the election to Donald Trump, he immediately

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Speaker 1: went up to the podium and said something it remains

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Speaker 1: true at this moment. He said, I will be the

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Speaker 1: president of all Americans, even those who do not support me.

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Speaker 1: He's not appealing to the base. He's making good to

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Speaker 1: these promises. When I go out around this country as

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Speaker 1: I do, and you ever want to cover it, come

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Speaker 1: and join me. All right now, we're too Shawn Hannity shows.

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Speaker 1: We come to you from I guess the swamp and

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Speaker 1: the sewer and everything that's horrible and that's Washington d C.

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Speaker 1: How was Kelly Anne Conway, counselor to the president And

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Speaker 1: as we come to you from the hills there college

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Speaker 1: studios and uh, Kelly Ann joins us in the studio.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a new aggressiveness that I'm noticing. Sebastian

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Speaker 1: Gorka saying, oh, Nickelodeon at Night has higher TV ratings

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Speaker 1: than Yogi Beart, by the way I want about I

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Speaker 1: don't think people under a certain age even know who

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Speaker 1: Yogi Bear is. The fact that there's a critical mass

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Speaker 1: of people watching it and not watching these other cable

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Speaker 1: networks do about Russia, That's right, something hey, boost all right,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm funny. So there's this beatdown going on.

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Speaker 1: So I actually put together this montage. I think you'll

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Speaker 1: appreciate it because you have been dealing with this now

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Speaker 1: for six months in about four days, and every network

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Speaker 1: is so abusively biased. So there was this guy that

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Speaker 1: heard this in in Humpty Dumpty's voice when you were

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Speaker 1: on his show over the weekend. That's what I call

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Speaker 1: him Umpty, dumpty, Jeff Zucker stenographer, you are not responsible

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Speaker 1: for the things I say on this program, and so

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Speaker 1: we put those little montage I think you'll appreciate together.

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Speaker 1: From NBC News World Headquarters in New York, This is

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Speaker 1: NBC Nightly News with Lester Holds. This is the CBS

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Speaker 1: Evening News with Scott Kelly. From ABC News World Headquarters.

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Speaker 1: This is ABC World News Tonight. David your This is

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Speaker 1: Meat Depressed with Chuck Time today on Face the Nation

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Speaker 1: from ABC News. It's this week here Now, Chief anchor

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Speaker 1: George Stepanoffults. I think Kelley gets the point. But you

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Speaker 1: hear the breathlessness in their voice when you are on

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Speaker 1: these programs and everybody else does on these programs in it,

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Speaker 1: it is a breathlessness. It's it's singularly focused. There seems

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Speaker 1: to be zero desire to cover good news or accomplishments

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Speaker 1: or even real other scandals out there. There's no question,

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Speaker 1: and my grievance from the beginning has been in complete coverage.

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Speaker 1: The media simply are abdicating their responsibility to be fair,

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Speaker 1: but they're also abdicating their old to connect Americans with

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Speaker 1: the information they need. If you quiz to these people

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Speaker 1: will it fail? Do you have the votes? Explosive explosive

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Speaker 1: lack of success legislatively, and it's always presumptive negativity. And

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Speaker 1: when I hear anchors like one on Sane then recently

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Speaker 1: because I'm a person who goes around this country that

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Speaker 1: shoulder looking for help, and he is helping. We're working

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Speaker 1: on prevention and treatment and recovering, interdiction and funding, but

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Speaker 1: also destigmatizing and giving people hope and heart on this issue.

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Speaker 1: And it's like that across the board. You know, yesterday

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Speaker 1: in the White House before the President left to speak

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Speaker 1: to forty thousand some uh individuals is just unbelievable. The

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Speaker 1: jamboree in West Virginia was great. Don't wear heels, are

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Speaker 1: sewan if you ever go, But oh, you're he of course,

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Speaker 1: I was dressed for it always. And so before he

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Speaker 1: of the White House and they told they're very raw,

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Speaker 1: very real, very compelling stories as to not only where

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Speaker 1: they lied by the previous president you can keep your

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Speaker 1: plan and keep your doctor. That was a big, fat lie,

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Speaker 1: but also just what's happened to them, how they've been

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Speaker 1: need help meeting the premiums, the deductibles, etcetera. And what

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Speaker 1: out that the White House must have had a casting

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Speaker 1: call for weirdly looking people. And this is how they

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Speaker 1: treat you. See what they say about Sarah Sanders, you see,

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Speaker 1: and this is just this is what we're up against now,

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Speaker 1: which is it's not just liberal, it's not just bias,

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Speaker 1: it's not just anti Trump. It's actually lazy. The facts

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Speaker 1: and the figures just aren't there, the stickiness of the

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Speaker 1: issues of what you need to know that's happening that day,

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Speaker 1: it affects you. They're not telling the veterans. They have

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Speaker 1: seven hotline that through the Veterans Accountability the in Choice

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Speaker 1: Acts and Whistleblower Protection Act, that these veterans now can

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Speaker 1: access care in the private sector. They're not telling people

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Speaker 1: that six and a half million Americans forked over money

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Speaker 1: in taxes and penalty to the I r s rather

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Speaker 1: than join Obamacare. They're not They're not being honest with

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Speaker 1: people that all the Obamacare websites have failed. At nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenty three co ops have gone under the eight three

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Speaker 1: insurers have fleed the Obamacare exchanges, with dozens more promising

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Speaker 1: to do so. That's relevant information that people need. They

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Speaker 1: cover palace intrigue stories, Who's up, Who's down. They have

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Speaker 1: these snarky headlines. You know, I went from being jailbait

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Speaker 1: to clickbait. Oh boy, they went. They they have these

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Speaker 1: headlines for ad revenues, for clicks, for kicks. I guess,

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Speaker 1: kicks and clicks, and it's not serving the public. The

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Speaker 1: public needs information. Let me. Obviously, healthcare is on the

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Speaker 1: on the on the forefront of people's minds today that

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions on a bunch of other issues, but in

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Speaker 1: speech before he went to the chamboree where you wore

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Speaker 1: high heels to the Poiscount Jamboree. Bet everybody was glad

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Speaker 1: to see you there. Um. But you know, there's so

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Speaker 1: many good things that aren't really happening out there that

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Speaker 1: nobody hears about. But healthcare to me, was the biggest

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Speaker 1: promise they made. And the President made this point yesterday.

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Speaker 1: get it done. Now we're down to repeal and you know,

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Speaker 1: a part time solution and then work on it more

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Speaker 1: or not what exactly we were told it was going

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Speaker 1: to be. Or the third option is if that doesn't

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Speaker 1: all work out, they'll just keep voting and voting little

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Speaker 1: pieces of Obamacare away. That's frustrating to me. That's frustrating

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Speaker 1: to the base. That's frustrating and every conservative. It's been

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Speaker 1: frustrating to the President and the president because they success,

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Speaker 1: They've done their job. They successfully ran on repeal and

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Speaker 1: replace of Obamacare. Sean, there were no footnotes, there were

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Speaker 1: no contingencies, And the senators who voted to repeal Obamacare

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Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen should think about that today when

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Speaker 1: they're casting these votes, because the only two things that

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Speaker 1: have changed since they themselves voted to repeal in two

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Speaker 1: thousand fifteen. Is number one, Obamacare got worse, and number two,

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Speaker 1: we now have a president it willing to sign it

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Speaker 1: into law. And so they're going to go back home

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Speaker 1: and they're going to face the fire. They have all

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Speaker 1: these protesters here on Capitol Hill from the other side,

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Speaker 1: laying down and screaming, and but they're going to go home.

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Speaker 1: They're going to hear from the base. They're going to

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Speaker 1: hear from the center right people who trusted them to

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Speaker 1: reape on replace. As the President said to the senators

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Speaker 1: at lunch last Wednesday, and I was sitting right there,

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Speaker 1: he said, I've been here six months, You've been talking

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Speaker 1: about this for over seven years. Pen in hand, ready

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Speaker 1: to sign it. But I guess they're going to consider

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Speaker 1: what's called skinny repeal every place. We'll see, right. But look,

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Speaker 1: maybe Vice President Pence puts it best when he says,

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Speaker 1: this is the beginning of the end of Obama. Acare

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Speaker 1: you have to start somewhere? Well, that's what the House

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Speaker 1: bill was. But if we're gonna repeal it and then

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Speaker 1: we'll have a two year period where they gives them time,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually fine with that, and I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of the things Round Paul wanted to do. I know

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Speaker 1: that they can't score Ted cruisas amendment, which we're total

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Speaker 1: would drive premiums down significantly. What do you make of

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Speaker 1: of the back and forth? There's been a lot made

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Speaker 1: about the President's comments Jeff Sessions he had recused himself.

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Speaker 1: I always thought that was a mistake. But and I

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Speaker 1: love always liked Jeff Sessions. I've been friends with her

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Speaker 1: many many years. I mean, and he's a solid conservative,

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Speaker 1: was loyal to the president. Is the President frustrated over

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Speaker 1: the recusal or the fact that it's it seems like

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Speaker 1: all we hear is Russia. We don't hear about Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: collusion uranium one. We don't hear about mishandling of emails,

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Speaker 1: destroying of classified top secret special Access program, or any

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Speaker 1: of the other crimes of Lauretta Lynch. Why do we

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Speaker 1: only hear about Russia? What is the A G. S

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Speaker 1: Office doing on those issues? Do we know? So? First, Sean,

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Speaker 1: you absolutely allowed me to echo that Senator Sessions out twenty.

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Speaker 1: General Sessions is an honorable man, a man of integrity,

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Speaker 1: who has been a public servant for decades. In this

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Speaker 1: nation and for the state of Alabama, and and that

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Speaker 1: just continues. The President is very frustrated, and he's there's frustration,

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Speaker 1: there's consternation about the recusal. He made that very clear.

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Speaker 1: I would say it was one of the five lowest

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Speaker 1: of the program runs through the Department of Justice, and

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Speaker 1: also because the President just doesn't think it was necessary.

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Speaker 1: Why because he didn't do anything wrong. There's nothing here

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Speaker 1: about Russia. We've been doing this for nine months. I

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Speaker 1: said earlier, I could have had a baby by now,

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Speaker 1: and we have no evidence of anything. It's been going

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Speaker 1: on for nine months. Adam Shift spends all his time

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty times since since Donald Trump got here.

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Speaker 1: And of course when you're on TV, you're not under oath,

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Speaker 1: but you're also not investigating your pontificating. He's not calling

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Speaker 1: witnesses and gathering evidence. He's conjecturing with the rest of

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Speaker 1: the liberal media that that just can't prove to any

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Speaker 1: They just can't point anything and Sean every time they say,

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Speaker 1: as Brian Selter said, to me over the weekend and

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Speaker 1: others have. But there may be something there. Should we know?

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Speaker 1: That's just that's not the way this works, everybody. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't work that there may be something there, so let's investigate.

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Speaker 1: Does have a special council, doesn't work that way. So

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Speaker 1: the president's frustration is the recusal, but it's also because

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Speaker 1: with the recusal came more and more Russia, Russia, Russia.

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Speaker 1: The President is trying to talk to and about America,

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Speaker 1: has been suggesting that the Attorney General do more to

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Speaker 1: investigate what's not hypothetical, but it's very real. Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: destroying emails, Bill Clinton getting a half a million dollar speech,

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Speaker 1: and there you go to uranium rights and collusion. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that collusion? I think it's important for people to know

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Speaker 1: all these facts, just like it's important for them to

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Speaker 1: know who donates to which candidate if they're going to

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Speaker 1: be part of a legal team. That's just called transparency

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Speaker 1: and accountability. So people, but the President is made very

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Speaker 1: clear from day one, this Russia is a witch hunt.

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Speaker 1: It's a hoax. He has nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 1: You've got Jared Kushner complying you've got Don Jr. Has

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Speaker 1: been willing to do that. People are willing to share

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Speaker 1: the information they have a look. I was the campaign

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Speaker 1: manager for the winning part of the campaign. Nobody ever

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Speaker 1: handed me a file or DAWs and says you need

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Speaker 1: to see this if I need a negative information about

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. I looked at Hillary Clinton. She was like

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Speaker 1: a walking treasure trove of negative It's actually funny yesterday

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Speaker 1: when Jared said, well, after election day, if you asked

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Speaker 1: me who the Russian ambassador is, I wouldn't have been

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Speaker 1: able to tell you. I don't That was funny, Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by. Great to see you. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Counsel to the President. One sewn, you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. So we'll take

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Speaker 1: a break from the swamp, from the sewer, from sin City, USA.

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Speaker 1: It's the Sean Hannity Show. Many thanks to our friends

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Speaker 1: at Hillsdale College for allowing us to use their studios.

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Speaker 1: Will take a break, we'll come back, We'll continue, all right,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sean Hannity Show. One sewn, you want

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Speaker 1: to be a part of the program. Lenny Davis, you

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Speaker 1: know he was the guy that actually defended Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: during those rough years of impeachment and perjury and suborning

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Speaker 1: perjury and sex in the oval with an intern. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was a mess, and you wrote a book about it,

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Speaker 1: and it's really I think well done. If you're under fire,

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Speaker 1: whether in corporate America and your real life personal life

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Speaker 1: or in a white house, tell the truth, tell it all,

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Speaker 1: tell it or only tell it yourself. Get it out

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Speaker 1: of the way. What's the point? Mark is Net to

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Speaker 1: North Carolina? Mark, Hi, how are you glad you called?

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Speaker 1: It's good sir? How are you? I'm doing wonderful as

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Speaker 1: nice and sunny up here in North Carolina today. But

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Speaker 1: I'll get it right to my point. I was actually

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Speaker 1: calling about sessions recusal from any of the Russia involvement.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a lawyer, I don't play one on TV.

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Speaker 1: But what would what would be the crime or the

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Speaker 1: and actually get his a roll up and sleeves and

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Speaker 1: needs to be done, or at least on what taught

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Speaker 1: me to him him do I mean? I just I

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Speaker 1: think for perhaps legally if he thought the conditions had changed,

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Speaker 1: he can make the argument for that. I think the

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Speaker 1: pushback would be monumental, and I think there would be

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Speaker 1: who knows it just would cause such a ruckus. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's worth it. I I don't know why

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Speaker 1: he did it. I'd be I know the reason he

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Speaker 1: But that's that's the same with everybody. I didn't feel

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Speaker 1: that was a real good reason for recusal. Um. Jeff

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Speaker 1: Sessions is a good man. I've I've known Jeff Sessions

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Speaker 1: wasn't I wish the president would give him a chance

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Speaker 1: to do his job. But I'm also a little bit

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Speaker 1: agitated that we haven't gotten enough out of the Attorney

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are pursuing non facts, made up facts, phony news,

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Speaker 1: And I see absolutely paralysis. I see no action at

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Speaker 1: things that are going on that I don't know about,

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Speaker 1: equal justice under the law, if I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: Like if he did that, would there be legal ramifications

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Speaker 1: for him to do a reverse recusal. I just don't

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Speaker 1: this day and age of instant response, in this day

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Speaker 1: same people that fond over Obama now have focus their

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Speaker 1: it would be such a big problem. I mean, they'd

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Speaker 1: wouldn't stop. And the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Democrats

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Speaker 1: destroy each other. And they can't even agree on a

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Speaker 1: I hope that answers your question. Right when we come back,

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Speaker 1: Lanny the book that went what Lanny did to help

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Speaker 1: Clinton in those impeachment years was frankly amazing. And he's

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Speaker 1: learned a lot from that experience. And we'll pick his brains.

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Speaker 1: He's here with us in Washington, were in the swamp,

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Speaker 1: we're in the sewer, and we're here for a couple

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Speaker 1: of days, and we're headed back Wednesday night. But um,

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Speaker 1: it's absolutely the least favorite place on earth, to be

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Speaker 1: my least favorite place. We'll continue because of my service

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Speaker 1: as Secretary of State is what his presidency would mean

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Speaker 1: to our country and our standing in the world. I

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Speaker 1: am already receiving messages from leaders. I'm having foreign leaders

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Speaker 1: ask if they can endorse me to stop Donald Trump. Say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's I mean, this is up to Americans.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. But I get what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: and tell us who Well, some have done it publicly, actually, um,

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Speaker 1: the Italian Prime minister, for example. How about the ones

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Speaker 1: that have done it privately, Jacob, we're holding that in

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Speaker 1: reserve too, all right. That was Hillary Clinton from last

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Speaker 1: week Gladua with a Shawn Hannity Show ninth one, Shawn

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Speaker 1: is our number. Joining us here in the Hillsdale studios.

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Speaker 1: We have Lanny Davis, author of the Crisis Tales, and

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Speaker 1: let's tell the truth, tell it early, tell it all,

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Speaker 1: tell it yourself notes from my White House education. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start with that because Hillary was admitting collusion there,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to focus all of our attention.

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Speaker 1: I'm all, we're gonna disagree on. One of the things

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Speaker 1: I admire the most about you, and we have been

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Speaker 1: friends a lot of years, is that. And we really

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Speaker 1: we kind of became friendly during the Clinton years although

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Speaker 1: we had television wars. You have to admit, right, peaceful,

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Speaker 1: but Ward, no, there weren't noiseus peaceful, Anny. I mean

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Speaker 1: there were days you would get off the air and

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Speaker 1: you were really pistil really and then incomes the incoming email.

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Speaker 1: Why do you make it personal? I didn't make it presonal,

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Speaker 1: yes said you did, so make it personal. But the

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Speaker 1: one thing I give you credit for is you're really

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Speaker 1: really good at crisis management because you had to deal

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Speaker 1: with the president that had sex with an intern in

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Speaker 1: the Oval office, lie to the American people, Uh committed perjury,

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Speaker 1: suborn perjury, lost his law license, and was impeached and

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Speaker 1: he still was the president. Have you changed your mind

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Speaker 1: about Clinton. I didn't think you liked and that's a

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Speaker 1: very nice I've never met the guy, because you've never

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Speaker 1: introduced me. Uh. One thing Bill Clinton did is to

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Speaker 1: own up to making big mistakes in his personal life.

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Speaker 1: But you just described. But also legally, I mean, he

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Speaker 1: did have to pay a judgment against Paul Jones, he

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Speaker 1: did lose his legal license, he did get impeached, there

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Speaker 1: were legal ramifications. And what I always would say is

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Speaker 1: nobody says more harsh things about his personal behavior. Then

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton said about himself, You're really You're still really good.

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Speaker 1: But in a lot of ways I see between the

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Speaker 1: deep state, the media, your fellow Democrats not you though,

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Speaker 1: and well you were a little bit. I see this

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Speaker 1: White House is under fire, and for example, on the

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Speaker 1: on the whole Russia thing, I think I think it

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Speaker 1: should be tell the truth, tell it all, tell it early,

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Speaker 1: tell it yourself. And I think had they may be

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Speaker 1: done that earlier, it wouldn't have the slow drip, drip

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Speaker 1: drip that we've been having. Look the lesson of President Clinton,

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Speaker 1: if I could just go back to that is he

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Speaker 1: did have a very bad last couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: he did personally experienced a lot of pain and the

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Speaker 1: country had to experience a lot of that pain. He

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Speaker 1: left with the sixty approval rating. Why it's a lesson

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Speaker 1: for President Trump. People ultimately judge you on the job

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Speaker 1: you do, and when he left office, there was prosperity,

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Speaker 1: there were jobs, the budget was balanced, and they thought

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Speaker 1: he had done a pretty good job, and they forgave

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Speaker 1: him for what were personal weaknesses that he admitted to.

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Speaker 1: If President Trump didn't tweet about Mueller and Sessions and

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Speaker 1: all this other stuff and focused on what got him elected,

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Speaker 1: which are the issues that people care about, and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: some of us in the Democratic Party forgot about those issues,

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Speaker 1: he'd be a lot better off. But in the case

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Speaker 1: of Mueller. If Mueller, you've seen a lot of special counsels,

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Speaker 1: special prosecutors in a good day, He's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: investigating the campaign and Russia. Okay, now he's looking at

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Speaker 1: the finances. Now we call it investigative creep. You've experienced that,

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Speaker 1: you've seen it. But it does seem to be a

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Speaker 1: double standard. Because we had a d NC operative, this

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Speaker 1: woman Shalupa, who met at the Ukrainian embassy with the

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian ambassador and political report had passed on information to

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Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign. They disseminated false information against Trump to

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Speaker 1: help Hillary and passed on that information of the d

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Speaker 1: n C. Why aren't we looking into that? Isn't that

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Speaker 1: collusion in the same type of collusion? Well, two questions,

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Speaker 1: but let me start with the second. So you don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm avoiding it. I find what he knows. My

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Speaker 1: style to all go ahead. I find what I've read

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Speaker 1: if it's true, and I did read it an a credible,

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Speaker 1: great reporter from Politico that what Chalupa did was disgusting, repulsive,

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Speaker 1: should be repudiated. And I have no idea. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it at the time. Had I known it about

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Speaker 1: the time, I would have written about it. But by

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Speaker 1: the same token, any republican, conservative American should repudiate Russia

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Speaker 1: interfering in our elections, whether it's a Ukrainian consultant or

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Speaker 1: whether it's a Russian I do. I do. But they

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Speaker 1: went after America in previous selections. As it was testified

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Speaker 1: by intelligence officials. They definitely tried to influence this election,

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Speaker 1: and they'll do it in future elections. My question is,

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Speaker 1: do you have any evidence of collusion. No, that's what

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Speaker 1: the investigation is about. It wasn't meeting by Donald Trump Jr.

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Speaker 1: Who thought there was going to be helped from the

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Speaker 1: Russian government. He was mistaken and nothing happened. Is that.

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Speaker 1: Alan Dershwood says, that's not wrong to listen to somebody

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Speaker 1: if that have information on an opposing candidate. Is he

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Speaker 1: right or you right? I love Alan, but the word wrong,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he means. I certainly if not

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Speaker 1: illegal in any way. Uh, the campaign finance laws might

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Speaker 1: make it illegal if she'd actually turned over negative information,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that crime, and it's about a penalty

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Speaker 1: if you get something of value from a foreign government,

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Speaker 1: as was accused of President Clinton in the ninety six campaign.

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Speaker 1: That's a crime to get something of value from a

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Speaker 1: foreign government. But it's a stretch to say that that

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Speaker 1: meeting in and of itself was illegal, that it would

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Speaker 1: have to be something more if that's what Alan means.

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Speaker 1: I agree with them, but it was poor judgment and

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Speaker 1: the judgment issue on meeting with a foreign government official

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Speaker 1: who has in the subject line. So you're saying Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: same thing, you're saying Russia, same thing. Yes, they have

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Speaker 1: no idea why the d n C. He was taking

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Speaker 1: information from a consultant, not a Ukrainian government official. But

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Speaker 1: the fact is they should have said, no, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We don't let foreign governments involved in our But I

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Speaker 1: don't see the comparison. I think the Russian collusion, which

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Speaker 1: all the intelligence run you're one of your best friends,

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Speaker 1: and you he's this is called running out the clock

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Speaker 1: at this point, Uh did it bother you? It's the difference,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Uranian one deal that Hillary was one

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Speaker 1: of nine officials as Secretary of States. Don't get me

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Speaker 1: started on that. You don't want to get me started on.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do. I would love to see you

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Speaker 1: piste off. I've really that's actually my goal. We get

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Speaker 1: you piste off that that deal was approved by the

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Speaker 1: Defense Department, the Energy, Secretary of State and and other agencies,

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Speaker 1: and Utah Nuclear Regulatory Agency, a Republican organization. Did any

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Speaker 1: of those groups with the people associated with those that deal,

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Speaker 1: those people that were in Canada, I can. I can

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Speaker 1: pull up the list of every name. They didn't get

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Speaker 1: a hundred forty five million dollars kick back to their

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Speaker 1: foundation from people that were benefited from that deal the

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Speaker 1: Clinton's did Bill Clintons speaking fees in Moscow. Now this

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Speaker 1: is we're handing over, we're allowing up of America's uranium

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Speaker 1: to get in the hands of Vladimir Putin and Russia

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Speaker 1: are sworn enemy democrats tell us and she got a

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Speaker 1: hundred forty five million kicked back, And I don't know

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Speaker 1: anybody else they got any money kicked back to them?

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Speaker 1: Do you do? You know the expression you've just introduced

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Speaker 1: evidence for that of foundation that we're at. Kick back

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Speaker 1: is evidence for that foundation. Okay, the people associated with

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Speaker 1: no Kill, the people associated with the deal donated over

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Speaker 1: a hundred and forty five million dollars the Clinton Foundation.

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Speaker 1: That's very generous, isn't it. So here's the causation logic,

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Speaker 1: same logic the rooster crows and the sunrise. Asking about

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Speaker 1: your name the foundational material of nuclear weapons and to

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Speaker 1: tell about roosters, the rooster crows the sun rise is

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Speaker 1: therefore the rooster causes the sun to rise. If somebody

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Speaker 1: gives a donation and then something else happens, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they're causingly related. But it couldn't get that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get that you say that but could it be.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it seems a hundred forty five million for

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Speaker 1: of the foundational material for nuclear weapons handed over to

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Speaker 1: somebody we believe is evil. So the Secretary of Defense,

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of Energy, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission of

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Speaker 1: Utah were all bribed by donation. I don't know. Do

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Speaker 1: they have a hundred forty million in the foundation kicked

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Speaker 1: back by the players in that deal? Well, if we're

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Speaker 1: kickback were accepted as evidence in hundred million dollars donated

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Speaker 1: to the Clinton Foundation, that's not that's not worthy of

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Speaker 1: an investigation. One of the reasons I love you is

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Speaker 1: that worthy of an investigation? No, But one the sasons

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Speaker 1: I love you is that lief your a BFF is

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Speaker 1: sitting here and he's shaking his head saying he agrees

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Speaker 1: with me, not you, he says, Lannie Davis knows how

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Speaker 1: to handle Sean Hennedy only because I'm nice to you.

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Speaker 1: If I wanted to be mean, like in the old days,

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Speaker 1: I would be mean. All right, let me go to

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Speaker 1: this thing. This is an important question because I I

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Speaker 1: we saw what happen with Scooter Libby, Scooter Olibby. As

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, when they found out Richard Armitage

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Speaker 1: was the leaker Valerie playing one day one Patrick Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: should have walked away, in my opinion, But then the

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Speaker 1: investigative creep goes on. Three years out, we get Scooter

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Speaker 1: Libby on a on a perjury charge. I would argue

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Speaker 1: a perjury trap because you go under, Oh you you

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Speaker 1: don't remember things we got you. I think you can

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Speaker 1: die a ham sandwich at that point. And I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: talk to anybody. I wouldn't recommend anybody talk either. I

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Speaker 1: would argue probably because he didn't hand over Vice President Cheney.

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Speaker 1: That's my theory on it. But anyway, three years later,

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Speaker 1: that's all we got out of an investigation. Is it

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Speaker 1: appropriate for Muller to a point Hillary Clinton's former attorney

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Speaker 1: from the Clinton Foundation and hire all of these Obama donors,

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Speaker 1: all of these Clinton donors, all of these Democratic donors

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Speaker 1: to do the investigation on Trump or do you think

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Speaker 1: that is inappropriate? I believe it's inappropriate. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a mistake. I don't think it's inappropriate. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: address the merits of his investigation. I don't like setting

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Speaker 1: up perjury traps where you can't prove an underlying crime.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened to Webster Hubble, and at the time

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Speaker 1: I was on your show during those years, you were

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Speaker 1: not upset by that. But I don't like that the

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Speaker 1: underlying such memories we have of plan the underlying crime.

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Speaker 1: It's important and there should not be a perjury false

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Speaker 1: statement case if you don't have an underlying crime. As

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Speaker 1: to whether or not Mr Trump was involved in collusion.

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Speaker 1: As to whether or not, I haven't seen any evidence

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Speaker 1: of that. But then why is he saying the president

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Speaker 1: has full power to pardon? Why isn't he focusing because

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Speaker 1: the media brought up the issue and I but I

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Speaker 1: would I would think constitutionally, you agree with the president

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Speaker 1: the power of the partners absolute. Tell me where it's not.

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Speaker 1: Ken Start wrote a very long memo where now you're

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Speaker 1: quoting Ken Star crashed all those years. You don't expect

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Speaker 1: me to be consistent with you, do you? Uh? The

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Speaker 1: answer is it's never been litigated. I doubt that there's

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Speaker 1: any limitation on the power pardon argument on both ways.

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Speaker 1: But look, no, I actually thought at one point Trump

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Speaker 1: would pardon Hillary Clinton if the issues came up about her.

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Speaker 1: I think President Trump not that he'll take my advice

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Speaker 1: should stop tweeting about Mueller and stop treating about pardons,

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Speaker 1: and start tweeting about what Americans care about, which got

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Speaker 1: him elect. I don't think that's bad advice, all right,

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Speaker 1: stay right there, Lenny Davis as well us. Tell the truth,

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Speaker 1: tell it all, tell it early, tell it yourself. In

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Speaker 1: other words, everything nobody ever wants to do in life

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Speaker 1: when you get caught. Uh right, as we continue, we're

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Speaker 1: in our nation's capital. Eight D nine one. Shawn is

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Speaker 1: our number. Lenny Davis is with us. It's really interesting

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Speaker 1: when you're under fire in the swamp and the sewer,

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Speaker 1: which is Washington, d C. I mean, he lived through

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Speaker 1: a lot of it, and very skillfully, I might add,

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Speaker 1: even though we were fighting a lot of the time,

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Speaker 1: was able to help navigate a sitting president and after

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Speaker 1: having sex with an intern in the Oval office, lying

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Speaker 1: about it, committing perjury, suborting perjury, saying right Betty to

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Speaker 1: his secretary asking her to life for him. You know,

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Speaker 1: I remember at all. I've got a memory. But if

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Speaker 1: you asked me what I did on TV last night,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. Well, I think you you just

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Speaker 1: got to recycle what you said ten minutes ago as easy. Well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think about it before you came in the studio,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, So let's just see your flashbacks. Let's

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Speaker 1: just take advantage of your audience and give Mr Trump

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Speaker 1: some good advice. I don't support him. I certainly would

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Speaker 1: never vote for him, but he's my president, just as

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Speaker 1: he's your president. And we've got to fix this healthcare system.

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Speaker 1: And we need more jobs, and we certainly need an

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Speaker 1: infrastructure system that we aren't worried to been a border,

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Speaker 1: and we need a safe boarder. We don't need a wall,

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Speaker 1: which he still can't tell how he's going to pay

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Speaker 1: for it. But don't let me go there. If Mr

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Speaker 1: Trump really wants to get that program and acted, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of moderate Democrats Joe Mansion is my

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Speaker 1: favorite example that will work with him, and he can

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Speaker 1: build a coalition that Ronald Reagan built. He had to

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01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: work with Tip O'Neil and he would would meet in

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Speaker 1: the White House after they slugged it out during the daytime.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump's background he did support Hillary Clinton one

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Speaker 1: part of his life. He could probably build a coalition

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Speaker 1: with Democrats to get something done. He's got to s

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Speaker 1: see it. I I see the scoop Jackson error. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Joe Lieberman's of the world. If he will mansion

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Speaker 1: is probably one of two people you can name, I

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Speaker 1: could name you would would support him on an infrastructure building. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody want because that's more big government spending. Everybody loves that,

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Speaker 1: although he wants a private public partnership. Let me ask

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Speaker 1: you a question. I had Hillary pretty hard in the

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Speaker 1: campaign because I thought she was a dishonest person. I

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Speaker 1: thought she ran a horrible campaign, and I thought she'd

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Speaker 1: be a bad president. Um, it seems she hasn't handled

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Speaker 1: this well afterwards. Your friends with her are my wrong

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Speaker 1: in my perception. I think you're wrong in your perception.

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Speaker 1: But I you and I both agree that she's not

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Speaker 1: only a friend. We've been friends for forty seven years. Uh.

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Speaker 1: She has been there for me through thick and thin,

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Speaker 1: as I have for her. So I therefore am not

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Speaker 1: very good in responding to any question you asked me

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Speaker 1: about Hillary other than she's been a great I I

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Speaker 1: honestly do admire your loyalty. But she's just a great friend. No,

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Speaker 1: but we've we've hung out now together a lot over

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Speaker 1: the years and we've been through some political wars on disagreements.

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Speaker 1: I love, I respect that you fight for your friends.

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: I fight for my friends, and I hate disloyal people

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01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: makes sense, or people that are only loyal in the

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Speaker 1: good times, not the hard times. Let me ask to

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Speaker 1: ask something. Thank you for the compliment. When you were

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Speaker 1: unfairly attacked by my friends because they disagreed with your

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Speaker 1: opinions and they called on boycotts and other things, you

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Speaker 1: were the only wait a minute, you were one of

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Speaker 1: two people on the left that stood up and said

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Speaker 1: stop the boycott, which, by the way, I don't. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to silence free speech. I don't either. I

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Speaker 1: don't care how crazy on the left jar. That's dangerous

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Speaker 1: for liberty and freedom. And if they're successful, we'll never

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01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: will never have an open dialogue in the and the

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Speaker 1: same thing for the right versus the left. You and

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Speaker 1: I disagree on most things, but we agree on fundamental principles.

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Speaker 1: And when I say of our country, our country is

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01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: of now. Obama messed it up so bad, we gotta

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Speaker 1: fix it. Obama is a great passant. I get out

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Speaker 1: of here. I don't even know why to get I've

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Speaker 1: I've matched out my time with you. Get out, well,

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Speaker 1: I will see you. See all right, Lonnie Davis, tell

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Speaker 1: the truth, tell it all, tell early, telling yourself. Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't even have to look at the title. That's

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Speaker 1: how often I've quoted it recently. All right, we'll take

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Speaker 1: a quick break. We're in the sewer, We're in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. We're in Sin City, and we're here to

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Speaker 1: drain the swamp. It's a Shawan Hannity show. Under my understanding,

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Speaker 1: the Capital Police is not able to confiscate members equipment

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Speaker 1: when the member is not under investigation. It is their

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Speaker 1: equipment and it's supposed to be returned. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: there's stanuine circumstances in this case, and I think I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, working through my council, and you

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Speaker 1: know the necessary personnel if if that in fact is

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Speaker 1: the case, and with the permission of through the investigation,

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Speaker 1: and we'll return the equipment until that's accomplished. Equipment. I

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Speaker 1: think you're violating the rules when you when you would

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Speaker 1: conduct your business that way, and she expects that there

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Speaker 1: would be consequences. All Right, dudes, round up information overload

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Speaker 1: hour as we continue from our nation's capital. Eight one

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Speaker 1: Shawn is our toll free telephone number. As we have

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Speaker 1: been telling you, the FBI seized smash computer hard drives

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Speaker 1: from the home of Florida Democratic Congresswoman Debbie Wassonman Schultz

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Speaker 1: and UH Information Technology administrator this particular guy's house, according

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Speaker 1: to two sources with knowledge of this, now, this guy

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Speaker 1: was a long time I T aide to the d

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Speaker 1: n C chairwoman and has since desperately been trying to

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Speaker 1: get these hard drives back. An individual whom the FBI

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Speaker 1: investigators interviewed in the case told the Daily Caller News

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Speaker 1: Foundations Investigator group, and an additional source in Congress with

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Speaker 1: direct knowledge of the case speaking out about it. And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of sensitivity obviously to the probe. Confirmed,

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Speaker 1: the FBI has joined what Politico previously described as a

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Speaker 1: capital police criminal probe into serious, potentially illegal violations on

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Speaker 1: the House I T network. Now, one of the things

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Speaker 1: I've been saying, as the fixated media goes Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia,

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Speaker 1: Nobody in the Trump campaign that I know of signed

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Speaker 1: off on on giving Vladimir Putin up to America's Urania.

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Speaker 1: Nobody in the Trump campaign or in the in the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration deleted thirty three thousand emails that were under subpoena,

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Speaker 1: none of them destroyed blackberries and iPhones with hammers, none

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Speaker 1: of them after years of asking handed over to the FBI.

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Speaker 1: You know, phones and blackberries that didn't have SIM cards

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Speaker 1: in them. And in this case, you know, it raises

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Speaker 1: issue after issue about about obstruction of justice. Anyway, joining

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Speaker 1: us to help us with this is Luke Rosiak. He's

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Speaker 1: been leading the investigative series. UH, and it's his article

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Speaker 1: in the Daily Caller that's been getting all the attention.

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Speaker 1: How are you, I'm good, Thanks for having me. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you walk us through what you've been now investigating?

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Speaker 1: I think since what last December or so? Yeah, back

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Speaker 1: in February, Uh, Capitol Police announced to members of Congress

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Speaker 1: that five of their I T guys were suspects and

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Speaker 1: a criminal probe into breaches of security. And at that

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Speaker 1: time they were banned from the House network. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: most of the members immediately fired uh these guys, as

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Speaker 1: you would expect. But right away something weird started to

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Speaker 1: emerge because Debbie Wasserman Schultz has refused to fire this guy,

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Speaker 1: im Ron jan even though he's a criminal suspect in

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Speaker 1: basically a hacking probe. Uh. And this is given her

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Speaker 1: history at the d n C, you would think she'd

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Speaker 1: be especially sensitive to that. Um. So, these guys, basically,

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Speaker 1: this guy Amron started working for her back in two

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Speaker 1: thousands five, and right after that, all of his relatives

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Speaker 1: started appearing on the payroll of of members of Congress

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Speaker 1: at really high salaries, like chief of staff level salaries.

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Speaker 1: And they collected four million dollars in all, even though

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Speaker 1: people really never saw them around. They were said to

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Speaker 1: be kind of ghost employees. Uh. So this is Imran Juan,

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Speaker 1: his brothers, a Bead and Jamal. These are all Pakistani

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Speaker 1: born uh. And then their wives, two of their wives.

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Speaker 1: And these guys, as you would expect, they're the I

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Speaker 1: T guys. They set up email for members of Congress

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Speaker 1: and when they can read, when did the FBI find

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Speaker 1: these smashed hard drives? And and maybe you know more

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Speaker 1: than I do, but if hard drive is smash, could

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Speaker 1: you ever put it back together? So the FBI at

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Speaker 1: some point joined what was previously a Capitol police probe

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Speaker 1: back in March, I think, UH Speaker Paul Ryan told

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Speaker 1: me that outside agencies were assisting the Capitol Police to

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Speaker 1: provide technical uh you know, expertise. Uh. And they did

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Speaker 1: go into im Ram's house and take these smashed hard drives.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was on them or whether they

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Speaker 1: will be able to be uh to be read. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I need to get some tech people on. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: that sound a little bit like Hillary Clinton and her

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Speaker 1: staff using a hammer or pulling out SIM cards or

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Speaker 1: using bleach bit? Sounds pretty similar to me, or the

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Speaker 1: leading emails, like the way she did well and im

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Speaker 1: Rom after he learned that, so basically the week that

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Speaker 1: this investigation was announced, right around that time, he abruptly

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Speaker 1: moved out of his house and his wife went to Pakistan.

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Speaker 1: They didn't stop her because there have been no arrest

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Speaker 1: in this case. They didn't take their passports or anything.

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Speaker 1: And Imrom moved somewhere else. I think he's still in Virginia.

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Speaker 1: But he moved out of that house really abruptly, and

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Speaker 1: he rented it out to someone. So this renter moved

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Speaker 1: in and he found all this government computer equipment in

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Speaker 1: the garage, including these smashed hard drives, and the FBI

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Speaker 1: took them from him. Uh. So m I kept going

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Speaker 1: back to this renter and saying, give me my hard

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Speaker 1: drive stack. And then he even threatened to sue the

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Speaker 1: renter for stealing his smashed hard drives, which the renter

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Speaker 1: thought was obviously extremely unusual. And and that's where we

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Speaker 1: have the interview with Debbie Wassonan Schultz and and the

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the Capitol Police because there's a

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Speaker 1: video of it. Well, actually that was a different laptop,

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Speaker 1: and that shows you how serious this investigation is, despite

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Speaker 1: it not having the same prominence as uh, these other

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Speaker 1: hacking probes. That was a laptop which was confiscated by

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Speaker 1: Capitol Police after it was found hidden in an abandoned

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Speaker 1: house office building. Uh. And uh, the Capitol Police took

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Speaker 1: it at that time, and w Wasseron Schultz used a

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Speaker 1: budgeteering for the Capitol Police to threaten consequences if they

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Speaker 1: didn't give it back. And the police are saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we need this to prove a case against a suspected

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Speaker 1: uh cyber criminal, and Wasserman Schultz nevertheless wants to take

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Speaker 1: it back from the police so they can't have it

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Speaker 1: as evidence. Uh. And then what we learned just last

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Speaker 1: week as well was even though the Capitol Police do

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Speaker 1: have it in their possession. They haven't looked at the

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Speaker 1: hard drive because of constitutional issues the speech and debate clause.

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Speaker 1: Debbie Wasserman Schultz as a lawyer who's been, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: sending them off and trying to keep them from looking

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Speaker 1: at it. Why is it that in my heart of hearts,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where my suspicion goes, and tell me

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Speaker 1: if you've thought about this. When I think about all right, well,

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Speaker 1: why would Debbie Wasserman Schultz want there's one particular guy

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Speaker 1: and why would they have government hard drives smashed up

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Speaker 1: inside of you know, this guy's this guy's garage and

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Speaker 1: he's fighting tooth and nail to get back smashed hard

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Speaker 1: drives and the FBI comes in and seizes it coupled

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Speaker 1: with her laptop. Why do I think this is related

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Speaker 1: to Bernie Sanders? Well, yeah, it is interesting because on

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Speaker 1: the surface, the Democrats here and they worked on a

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Speaker 1: part time basis for dozens of members of Congress. Wasserman

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Speaker 1: Schultz was one of their primary benefactors as one of

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Speaker 1: their oldest employers, but they worked for and had access

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Speaker 1: to all the files for dozens of Democrats because they

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Speaker 1: don't all need a full time I t guy. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and they could read everything on you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: all of those files. Uh. So it is unusual that

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Speaker 1: Wasserman Schultz didn't say, well, I'm the victim here m.

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Speaker 1: I strongly condemned this guy. I got taken advantage of

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Speaker 1: by a staffer, and I want and prosecuted to the

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Speaker 1: full extent of the law. But she hasn't even fired

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Speaker 1: the guy. Well then that raises questions. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: else could they want to hide here? Why is there

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Speaker 1: such an effort at like I understand in the Clinton case,

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: because Clinton had a private email server with top secret

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Speaker 1: classified Special Access Program information on it, and she put

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Speaker 1: it in a mom and pop shop. I think the

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Speaker 1: reason is obvious, because she wanted a circumvent congressional oversight.

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Speaker 1: And when she got caught, they started the leading the

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Speaker 1: email else then they started smashing the other devices. But

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Speaker 1: the whole argument was, well, I had the other server

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Speaker 1: because I wanted everything consolidated on one device. And it

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Speaker 1: turns out there's what as many as possibly sixteen devices

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Speaker 1: handing over devices without SIM cards to the FBI. You

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Speaker 1: know that to me? You know that that that's it's

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Speaker 1: a prima facia case of obstruction of justice. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean these guys are there's a lot of red

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Speaker 1: flags in their backgrounds. They've been excused of fraud numerous

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Speaker 1: times in civil lawsuit UM which were available to members

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Speaker 1: of Congress publicly at the time that they hired them.

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Speaker 1: UH that one of them had a huge, massive death

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Speaker 1: while he was working for members of the Intelligence Committee,

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Speaker 1: and that's always a red flag. When you've got someone

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Speaker 1: with sensitive information and they have a lot of money,

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: who knows if they might try to capitalize on that information.

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Speaker 1: So I think this needs to be taken seriously as

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01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: a national security issue. UH investigators need to examine and

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01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: we don't know what we will find, but we want

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: to make sure that they um IS was worth these

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Speaker 1: guys giving it to UM or in Intelligent Services? Were

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Speaker 1: they selling it to third parties where they blackmailing members

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01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: UM They could also have been doing kickbacks to members.

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Speaker 1: They got four million dollars, which is way more than

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Speaker 1: UH and I T guy would typically get, and they

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: were rarely seen. They were described as ghost employees, so

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Speaker 1: it's possible that they were giving members kickbacks. The members

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01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: pay them in tax para money and then they give back,

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Speaker 1: perhaps some of it in cash. So you got the

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Speaker 1: I T guy of Debbie Wasserman Schulz. And when you

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Speaker 1: actually look at some of the employees and friends, and

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Speaker 1: they're getting these huge salaries chief of staff level salaries,

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Speaker 1: and they appeared to be ghost employees, right. And for example,

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Speaker 1: one of them worked at McDonald um and so they

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Speaker 1: put him on the payroll. This guy Rabbas, he was

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Speaker 1: the best friend of him Ron. He worked at McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: His roommates told me worked at McDonald's. Eventually had fired

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Speaker 1: from McDonald's. Then he just sat at home all day

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: and he was getting paid to do hide high tech

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Speaker 1: skilled i T work for members of Congress. People like

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Speaker 1: uh Ted Deutsch and uh Emmanuel Cleiber employed him. And

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: they won't say whether they ever saw this guy well,

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01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: I mean, does he have any computer skills at all?

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Speaker 1: Who was working at McDonald's. We can only imagine. Well,

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that something that the FBI would have

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: been able to find out rather quickly? Who knows? I mean,

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01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,440
Speaker 1: the investigators have been very secret, but Members of Congress

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01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: has really been very dismissive about this. You know, we

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: asked them and they just say, well, I don't know.

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01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: You probably know as much as I do. I never

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Speaker 1: gave it much thought. So that same guy, Emmanuel Cleiber said,

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: we asked him about, you know, email security, and he said, well,

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: I knew my I T guy was a criminal suspect,

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: but it never occurred to me that there could be

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Speaker 1: a cyber security component. And it's like, well, this is

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01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 1: part of vigilance and due deality. Why are you not

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01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: as suspicious about Bernie Sanders issue when in fact she

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01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: got fired on the e of the Democratic National Convention

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Speaker 1: As it relates to, you know, the emails that showed

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Speaker 1: that the fix was in for Hillary and that the

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Speaker 1: whole primary thing was rigged right, And I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you if you search for im Rom's name in wiki leaks,

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01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: you can see that m Rom had the password to

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01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: Debbie Wassman Schultz his laptop and her iPad rather and

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: people at the DNC didn't even have that. When they

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01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: wanted to get access to her iPad, they had to

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01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: call him ron And so he was very much her

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01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: right hand guy for many years involving all I T issues. Um,

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01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: so you know, we just don't know, but we know

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01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 1: that he had a tremendous amount of access to numerous

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01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: members of Congress is correspondence um, and it doesn't have

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01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: to be involving military secrets to be uh, you know,

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: compromont or something that's very valuable or embarrassing. All right, well,

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01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to follow the story. I gotta

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: give you a lot of credit. You've done a lot

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: of investigative work here, and that's Luca Rosiac with us.

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01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: Luke will continue to follow the story, keep us in

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01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: the Lupez to any new information you get. We really

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and we'll link that story to Hannity dot com.

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01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine one. Shaun is a number. We'll take

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Speaker 1: your calls coming up. All right, So we just heard

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Speaker 1: about Debbie Wassonman Schultz. You know this. This is not

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01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: the first time that these Democrats have had problems with

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Speaker 1: their I T and bleach bid and and the leading

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01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: emails and smashing blackberries and smashing iPhones, even though they

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01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: only did it for the convenience of one device. Remember that,

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: of course, this is search your memory banks. You remember

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01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: all of these instances. They all sound like obstruction of

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01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: justice to me. I had not sent classified material nor

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01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: received anything marked classified. Clinton said she never sent or

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: received any class and information over her private email. Was

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 1: that true. Our investigation found that there was class of

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01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: information since so it was not true that. I am

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: confident that I never sent nor received any information that

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: was classified at the time it was sent and received.

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Speaker 1: Mr Glinton said there was nothing marked class of AUTO

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 1: and her emails either sent or received. Was that true?

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 1: That's not true. There were a small number of portion

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01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: markings on I think three of the documents. I never

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01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: sent um classified material on my email, and I never

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01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: received any that was marked classified. R. Clinton said I

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01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: did not email any classified material to anyone on my email.

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: There is no classified material. Was that true? There was

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: classified material email? People across the government knew that I

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01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: used one device. Maybe it was because I am not

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01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: the most technically capable person and wanted to make it

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01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: as easy as possible. Mr Clinton said she used just

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01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: one device. Was that true? She used multiple devices during

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Speaker 1: the four years of her term as Secretary of State.

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01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: But we turned over everything that was work related, every

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: single thing personal stuff. We did not I had no

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: obligation to do so and did not SECTR Clinton said

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Speaker 1: work related emails were returned to the State Department. Was

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: that true? No, we found work related emails thousands that

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: were not returned. All I can tell you is that

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01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: when my attorneys conducted this exhaustive process, I did not participate.

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: Terror Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the

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01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the

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01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: email content individually? You were the official a charge? Did

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: you like the server? What like with a cloth or somebody? No,

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01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: I'll know how it works digitally. Did you try? Well,

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01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works digitally at all. I

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01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: do not have any cluck. You do not try. Now.

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: If that's not obstruction of justice, I don't know what is.

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01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: But all the media wants to talk about all they're

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01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: investigating with Republicans in charge of all these committees is

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: Russia Trump Russia with no evidence. And these are some

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01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: of the most remarkable, inexplicable political times I've ever seen

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: in my life. And my question to Republicans is what

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 1: is wrong with you people? Do you not know how

1418
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: to lead? Do you not know how to use the

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01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: authority you've been given? We'll continue your calls are next? Alright?

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Speaker 1: Twenty five now till the top of the hour one. Shawn,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program, and

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01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: we'd like to thank you for joining us. Many thanks

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01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: to our friends at Hillsdale College, Dr Larry Arne, who's

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01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: letting us use his studios today while we are in Washington,

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: d C. All right, as promised, a lot of stories.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to your calls here as we get to.

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Speaker 1: Sam is in San Diego, California, listening to six hundred

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01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: KGO radio. What's up, Sam? How are you welcome to

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01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: the show? Hey, Sean, how are you? What's going on?

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 1: My friend? You know, I love your show. I've been

1431
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: listening for cop years now and I've loved it. But

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01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, listening lately, I feel like I'm living in

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01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, spring of September sixteen. You know, we're still

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01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: talking about the people who committed felonies, the people who

1435
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: need to uh, you know, answer to the rule of law,

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01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: law and order. You know, we're still seeing President Trump

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01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: pull people up on stage and use them as an

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01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: example of things that we need to fix. And personally,

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01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: while I love listening to your show, I'm really frustrated

1440
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: that nothing's happening, that we're not going after anybody we're

1441
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: not keeping all these promises that so many people, including myself,

1442
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: got so pumped up about. You know, it's look, I'm

1443
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 1: frustrated with the Republicans. I'm frustrated with them in terms

1444
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: of the agenda not getting accomplished. Look at what Look

1445
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: at the mess that health care is right now, and

1446
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: you know, now we're getting down to, oh, we might

1447
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: get repeal light uh, you know, the skinny repeal bill,

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01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: the skinny Obamacare repeal and replace another way of saying

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01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: we can't get the job done, and we'll act like

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01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: we got half of it done. I mean, it's so frustrating.

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01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: And more importantly, where is with all the aggressiveness of

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01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: the Democrats, where's reciprocity? Is there equal justice under the

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01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: law anymore? You know, where are the investigations into Hillary Server?

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01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: Where's the investigations into you know, Hillary Uranian one? Where's

1455
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian embassy the Ukraine trying to influence our elections

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: and meeting with d NC operatives and passing the improm

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,520
Speaker 1: nation on the Clinton campaign? Where's the where's the investigation

1458
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: in a lynch? But you know, Lannie Davis is right too,

1459
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: I'd more, I'd rather I think we should have reciprocity.

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: I want Congress to call hearings. They control the subpoena power,

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01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: but I want them first to get the agenda accomplished.

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01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: I want them first to do their job, and that's

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01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: not happening. Yeah, exactly. I feel like we're just stuck

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: and I want to get going and I can hardly

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01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: even I can hardly even follow any of the stories

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01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 1: anymore because I feel like we're still not working on

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: the things that need to get done. So thanks for

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: taking my call. It just is not it's frustrating. I'm

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna keep fighting and I'm hoping for breakthroughs. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm hitting as hard as I possibly can. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm heading in on radio and TV every day

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Speaker 1: for them to do their job. We're trying to hold

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Speaker 1: them accountable, and I share your frustration. It is uh

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Speaker 1: not something I expected to deal with. Alright, listening in

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Speaker 1: London and England, Amy is standing by Amy. Hi, how

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01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: are you? And we're glad you're listening in London. We'll

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Speaker 1: come to the programs. Sean, thank you so much for

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01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: taking my call. It's it's a privilege to be able

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01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: to speak to you for a couple of years now

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01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: at least. Do you like when we have Katie Hopkins on? Yes,

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01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: I love it. I love where Katie's on. Yeah, he's

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01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites, as is Nigel. Nigel Pharaohs

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01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: to the lone voices over here. It's terrible, sure, and

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01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: I I feel like it like its groundhop day, but

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01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 1: in a bad way because you know, I vote of Brexit,

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01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: and a year later it's still dragging on. And now

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01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, we're over there with the with the Congress.

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01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: Because of YouTube, I can watch it and I have

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01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: been glued to it, with the hearings with Trey Caudi,

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01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: with Jason Shavitz, and you know, listening to Lynch and

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01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: and all those people, and Clinton and they you know,

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01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: you don't even have to to say, um a question,

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01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to hesitate and w they lied or

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01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: not because they know they did, as did Comy. And

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01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:10,480
Speaker 1: yet despite all of this, all the obvious criminal activity,

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01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about Russia again still and there's no proof

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01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: of anything, no evidence, no proof, far more evidence of

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: Hillary collusion with Russia, far more evidence of Democratic collusion

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01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 1: with Ukraine, and are more evidence of obstruction with them,

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 1: and here we are that and and Republicans and works.

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01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: I think the media have too much power because the

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01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 1: power of the media controls the narrative, and whoever is

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01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: controlling the media is controlling the narrative. And you know,

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01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: obviously here it seems as though the BBC, which I

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01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: used to respect once upon a time, it seems as

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01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: though they get their feed directly from the CNN, Clinton

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01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 1: News Network and you know, criminal News Network, whatever it is.

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01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 1: And obviously their people get to listen to you and

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01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: obviously with you know, talk radio everything, which is fantastic.

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01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: But over here, we're really on an island, and all

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: the people here here as a negative about President Trump.

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,839
Speaker 1: Nobody's hearing anything about the great things that he's achieving,

1513
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: but just hearing Russia, collusion, Russia. Oh you know, is

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01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: he going to be impeached? What? What are people in

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01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: the UK saying about it? Honestly, Sean, if the people

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: who do, actually the Brexit people love Trump, the Ramona's

1517
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: were for her, and obviously that the media or for her.

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: And what's so strange is if I go into the

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01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: street and if I mentioned President Trump's name, I either

1520
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 1: get an eye roll or you know what an awful,

1521
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: terrible he's you know, just the the same old insults

1522
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: that he's been getting about. It's just it's really sad, Sean.

1523
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: And I posed me, I was STI looking forward to

1524
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: seeing President Trump come here, and but because of all

1525
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: the left and the Antifa and the narrative is so

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01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: negative that he's not coming. And it's not anything to

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01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: do with his ego. I know that, I know it's

1528
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 1: nothing to do this ego whatsoever. It's because he doesn't

1529
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: want to have any violence on his account. It's not

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01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: his fault, and it's it's just sad, Sean. I will

1531
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: say this. It is sad for the American people that

1532
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 1: went to the ballot box. It's sad that we now

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01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: have to refight this election. It's sad that that there

1534
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: are different forces for different agendas that want to take

1535
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: away what the American people desire. Um and unfortunately means

1536
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,839
Speaker 1: that people are gonna have to roll up their sleeves

1537
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: and and get back in the trenches and start fighting

1538
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: for what they want because it's that these people are

1539
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 1: not going to go away on their own. I'm actually American, Sean.

1540
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: I know I don't sound very American, but I'm President Trump.

1541
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: I've got a British mother and an American father, and

1542
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: I was born over there, so my heart is huge,

1543
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: a gigantic patriot. And I flew over there for the election.

1544
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: I went, you know, to Florida, and I voted for him, obviously.

1545
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: And I after all the stress and trauma of the

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01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Obama years and the Clinton and the Benghazi and the

1547
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, all of the corruption that was so openly

1548
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: going on and nothing was being done, I thought, finally, yes,

1549
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, we've got President Trump. But he's going to

1550
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 1: be able to put an attorney general and they're going

1551
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: to go after all this crime. And it's like, no, no,

1552
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: it's not happened. Jeff. You know, Jeff Sessions is a

1553
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 1: lovely looking man, and he sounds lovely, but and I

1554
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but he's almost it's about as

1555
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: useful as a chocolate teapot when it comes to taking

1556
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: care of the corruption. But again, you know, the forces

1557
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: against President Trump, the dark side is so powerful that

1558
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: I think that everybody's in imidated. Well they you know,

1559
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 1: it's it's the it's just so we need to do something, Sean,

1560
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: We need something big. I mean, I hate to say it,

1561
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: but I'm going to say this. It's almost like I

1562
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: wish President Trump could do an Urduan and just just

1563
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: shut down the NN because they're not news. They're just listen.

1564
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: So horrible to hear. And when I hear that the Congress,

1565
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: when I hear it, the hearings, and I hear them, Yeah,

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01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:35,480
Speaker 1: the grilling that the cabinet people went through was outrageous, outrageous,

1567
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: and its teamed just it was embarrassing actually to hear

1568
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: the way they spoke to them, as if President Trump

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01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: is the enemy, and how don't you dare suggest you're

1570
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: going to be loyal to him because if you do,

1571
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: then you know we're not going to approve you. And

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01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: it's a wait a minute. These are people who are

1573
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: gonna be working with and for the president. The President

1574
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: is the boss and nobody's they're still treating President Trump

1575
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 1: as the business in the upstart, the TV star, and

1576
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: it's just just disgusting. Sun, I feel sick, you know,

1577
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: I feel sick about it. I gotta tell you. You know,

1578
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: there's a certain innocence in your objectivity, and there's a

1579
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: certain I guess a certain truth that you're seeing that

1580
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: maybe people can't see because we're too close to it.

1581
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: But everything that you're saying I believe to be true.

1582
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Everything that you are saying is happening. Everything that unfortunately

1583
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: the undermining is real. It's it's the five forces that

1584
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: I've identified on this program, including Republicans, including never Trumpers,

1585
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: including the media obviously, including the deep state. They're all

1586
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 1: out there. They're all Democrats obviously too, and it's, you know, combined,

1587
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: it is becoming almost ungovernable for the president right now.

1588
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you something. They better get their

1589
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: act together because if they don't, nothing's going to get accomplished.

1590
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: And all of those people, the Republican Party that's being

1591
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: so weak and visionless and spineless, and they're not fighting back.

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01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 1: I saw Senator Grassley asking the d o J to

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01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: investigate democratic collusion with Ukrainian officials. Finally, Center Grassley is

1594
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: fighting back. Well, why are we waiting to the last

1595
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: minute to get to this point? The answer is the agenda.

1596
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 1: The answer are jobs. The ANSWER's energy independence. The answers

1597
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: the wall, the answers were appealing replacing. The answer is

1598
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: keeping the promises. You do that, and America is going

1599
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: to be better off. Amy, Thank you appreciate your call.

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01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Eight nine for one Shawn toll free telephone number. Let's

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01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: say how to Barrett in Seattle and Washington. What's up, Barrett?

1602
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: How are you? We're glad you called good. Uh, just Seawan.

1603
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm really nervous right now about whole about the whole

1604
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: sessions thing. Um, you know, I think if he gets

1605
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: rid of them, I don't know if we're going to

1606
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: get like the kind of person we want for immigration. Um,

1607
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm very worried about that. For second of all, I'm

1608
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: really worried about taxes right now. It's like I need

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01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: help with my taxes. I haven't had a day off

1610
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 1: since gin of Um, you know, I work every day

1611
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 1: so I can just put food on my table and

1612
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: like put a roof over my head and with all

1613
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: these distractions going on and just killing me right now, Sean.

1614
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: And then second of all, you know, I'm thinking this

1615
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: is a great time. I really want to store Ingram

1616
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: in the White House. You want to see Laura Ingram

1617
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: in there? Oh yeah, all right, I'll tell her you

1618
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: said that, and she's gonna hate you for saying it.

1619
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I just want you to know. But listen, it's a

1620
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: big sacrifice. People don't really realize. I do realize because

1621
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: I know a lot of the people that have gone there,

1622
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 1: and I know people think, well, it's so prestigious, it's

1623
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: so wonderful, it's such a great job. Really, do you

1624
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: want to be Sean Spicer who served his country and

1625
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: put up with the crap the media delt to him

1626
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 1: every day and the contentious relationship that developed there. Do

1627
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: you want to do you want to really? You know,

1628
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: be hiring lawyers and spending thousands and thousands of dollars

1629
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: per hour to to pay these guys because of these

1630
01:31:56,479 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: ridiculous investigations of people on the left. It's a these

1631
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: are these are troubling times. But this is how the

1632
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Democratic Party works. This is how they roll, and that's

1633
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 1: a problem. Anyway, appreciate the call, Barrett, Thank you, Biloxi, Mississippi.

1634
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,719
Speaker 1: We got Willis standing Bywell. How are you? We're glad

1635
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: you called? Good. How are you this afternoon? I'm good, sir.

1636
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: What's going on? Not much? Hey, Look, I wanted to

1637
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: run a couple of ideas about you, one of them

1638
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: being is you know, it seems with the whole Russian

1639
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: web of deceit. Right, I can count up to eight

1640
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: different narratives that we've had, the last narrative being now

1641
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: that Adam Shift is saying that Trump is a money launderer. Right,

1642
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 1: with every change of the narrative, to me, it seems

1643
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: that it debunks the narrative that came before it. Right. So,

1644
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: what I guess I'm trying to say is, now we've

1645
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: thrown that I can count eight different balls at this

1646
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: whole made up thing and nothing has stopped. How many

1647
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 1: balls are we going to continue to allow them to throw?

1648
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: And I guess what really scares me, Sean is it's

1649
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: it's it's the deceit that the Democrats are doing right now.

1650
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Is everything that they accuse us of doing, like you

1651
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: said on your show last night, they're the ones who

1652
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: are actually doing it. And it's amazed me that we

1653
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: are just now catching up to it. And it's not

1654
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: the collusion, it's the cover up, it's the diversion, you know,

1655
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: it's the well, I don't know what, what's the cover

1656
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 1: with the cover up of the destruction of the phones

1657
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 1: and the tablets. Yeah, well, I mean that's that's what

1658
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: we ought to be looking into. And that's what we

1659
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: don't look into. And that's what frustrates me, you know

1660
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, well, the fact that he

1661
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: did as frustrating. Yeah, it is frustrating. Um. And look,

1662
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something I don't it's the deceit

1663
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 1: by the Democrats. You know, as I said, the Trump campaign,

1664
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 1: the Trump administration has never ever, ever, you know, ever

1665
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: given anybody deleted any emails. They never ever that I

1666
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: know of, smashed any blackberries or iPhones. They never use

1667
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 1: bleach bit, they never signed off on giving Vladimir all

1668
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: of the uranium are up to the uranium, the foundational

1669
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 1: materials and nuclear weapons. They never did any of the above.

1670
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: And the intensity and the double standard in the corruption

1671
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: and the line, it's it's mind boggling to me. And

1672
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: to feel that you're the only voice at times, and

1673
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 1: you know, I know the American people feel this way,

1674
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: but at least in the media, it's it's beyond anything

1675
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. One Shawn toll Free

1676
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: telephone number. You want to be a part of the program,

1677
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: All right, quick break, we'll come back. We'll continue straight ahead.

1678
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: It's the Sean Hannity Show. Alright, let's gonna wrap things

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Speaker 1: up with today. All Right, Republicans healthcare motion of recede,

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Speaker 1: Can they get it done? What the president is upset

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Speaker 1: with Jeff Sessions about? And how is that going to

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Speaker 1: all end up? The media, corruption and Republican weakness? And

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Speaker 1: also does Muller need to go? Also, we'll have the

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Speaker 1: latest on the deep state. How is it possible to

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Speaker 1: continued leaking that comes in almost on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: We'll have an in depth investigation tonight, Hannity ten Eastern.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. We'll see you back here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow