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Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody? Welcome to a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, as I am each and every Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, football analyst and sideline reporter, and plenty for

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Speaker 1: you on the show tonight. It's a Texans Schmoorgis board.

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Speaker 1: That's a hard word to say, especially on the radio.

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Speaker 1: If you say it any other time, maybe it's easier.

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Speaker 1: But I just, I just I think I just butchered

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Speaker 1: schmortgage boards. It's tough. It's like you got a mouthful

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Speaker 1: of marbles trying to say it. But we got plenty

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Speaker 1: for you on the Texans buffet. How about that buffet

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Speaker 1: is a little bit easier to say. We are gonna

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Speaker 1: go behind enemy sidelines with a DP city this week.

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Speaker 1: It's John Schmelk of Giants dot Com. He is a

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Speaker 1: writer editor for the Giants and he will join us

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Speaker 1: and talk about what this team, the Giants have got

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Speaker 1: to do. You're gonna win. They're owing two Texas, drowing

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Speaker 1: two despiration on both sides. Talk to John Schmelk about that.

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Speaker 1: Russell Baxter, our good friend, will join us at six

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Speaker 1: thirty at Backs Football guru check that six forty. He

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Speaker 1: will join us and he will be at that hour

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Speaker 1: and that time each and every Wednesday. I talked to

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Speaker 1: him a little bit before this week in setting up

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Speaker 1: the interview, and we talked about teams that are owing

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Speaker 1: two and he just said, John, don't despair, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I'm not. I said, I know there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of you that out there are oh yo,

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Speaker 1: two seasons over. He's got some numbers for you, I think,

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Speaker 1: and some information that I think you may absolutely like.

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna go men behind the mics. This week

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Speaker 1: it is Bob Poppa, the play by play voice of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants, who will join Mark Vanimir for

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Speaker 1: a few minutes, and then the voice of Texas will

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Speaker 1: stick with me and we'll talk about are we really

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Speaker 1: beyond Sunday? Is it really in the rearview mirror it

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Speaker 1: needs to be, but is it for the two of us?

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, and then our good buddy Andre

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Speaker 1: his thoughts about what he saw Sunday, what needs to

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Speaker 1: improve going forward, what he likes already, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: a college game he's going to do and it rhymes

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Speaker 1: with do as in the you on Saturday. So he

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Speaker 1: don't know how he does it. That's so that's seven

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Speaker 1: straight hours of talking nowadays football Andrey does a great

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Speaker 1: job with that. But man, that's a lot. That's a

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Speaker 1: Russell Baxter, will have John Schmelk, We'll have Mark Vanimer,

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Speaker 1: We'll have Bob Papa. We've got a lot for you.

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Speaker 1: But we kick off every show with our Hot Reads

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Speaker 1: Hot Reachs, brought to you by Geico. Fifteen minutes could

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Speaker 1: save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Let's

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Speaker 1: hear from your Texans. A storyline developed over the weekend

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Speaker 1: that I didn't see until this morning. I had no

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Speaker 1: idea about this, But in East Texas superintendent had made

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Speaker 1: a comment I believe it was on the chronicle comment section,

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Speaker 1: and it was brought to the attention of the Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: They tracked it down and lo and behold, a superintendent,

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Speaker 1: about school. Essentially, superintendent as like the general manager of

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Speaker 1: particular school district. So in education mind, you made some

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Speaker 1: derogatory comments about Sean Watson due to the color of

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Speaker 1: his skin. Players and coaches alike were all asked about

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Speaker 1: their thoughts as to those comments. Here's what JJ Watt

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. Also, Bill O'Brien, he's one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: it because it means as Deshaun said, not worried about

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Speaker 1: hot reads. Let's see what JJ Watt had to say

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Speaker 1: about getting pressure and being double teamed by everybody he faces.

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Speaker 1: it's just like Odell or hop I mean, they got

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Speaker 1: a good trend to keep going. Let's hear from head

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Speaker 1: coach Bill O'Brien today. He was asked about do catch

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Speaker 1: pretty amazing feeling to get that first sack, and Duke

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Speaker 1: sound With DeShawn Watson, he was asked about Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday injury report. Now, plenty of names on the

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Speaker 1: play every single playing game. I see him play seventy plays.

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Speaker 1: Will Flower was on injury report all last week and

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Speaker 1: report again. Still deal with that hamstrings. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: Christian Covington, Duke edge for Kareem Jackson, Merciless Martine's ranking

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Speaker 1: shoot up too, which gives the Texans nothing really good

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Speaker 1: pass Russia. Absolutely, let's switch gears and talk about the

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Speaker 1: Giants defense. There's a familiar face that might be returning

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Speaker 1: to NRG stadium. Connor Barwin can't believe he's still in

431
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: the league playing at the level that he's playing at.

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Speaker 1: He must be drinking from the fountain of youth. What's

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Speaker 1: that Giants defense known for? What are they what are

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Speaker 1: they doing well this year? And what are some things

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Speaker 1: that they've really struggled with. I think they're two strength,

436
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is inside on the defensive line. Damon

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00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: snax Harrison is a house in there. He's impossible to

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Speaker 1: move and it's very difficult to run up the middle

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Speaker 1: against his defense, storing Dalvin Tomlinson and b J. Hill

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00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: two guys that can play nose tackle and did in college,

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Speaker 1: and there their defensive ents in the three fourth, So

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Speaker 1: they have three guys that are hard to move inside.

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Speaker 1: That to me is the biggest strength of this defense.

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Speaker 1: We'll see a boy the Ila Apple this week and

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Speaker 1: whether he can play the Giants cornerback he left with

446
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Speaker 1: a groin injury. That's gonna be up in the air.

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Speaker 1: I fetch it till the end of the week, and

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Speaker 1: then if Norris Jenkins is a very good cover guy,

449
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Speaker 1: so I think they're two starting corners. If the Ola

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Speaker 1: apples there are probably their strength outside and then their

451
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Speaker 1: run defense inside where you can get them coverage from

452
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Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Their pass rush, and we'll see about

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Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon this week if he can play. He missed

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Speaker 1: the first two games of the year. Their pass rush

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Speaker 1: has not been consistent. It has not affected opposing quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: That's been a problem. And then finding that second safety

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Speaker 1: next to Landon Collins in that cap has been an

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Speaker 1: issue as well, the pass rush not being effective. That's

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Speaker 1: interesting that you mentioned that, because much like the Texans,

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Speaker 1: the Giants have sort of gotten themselves in a hole

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Speaker 1: early in their games. How much of it is just

462
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Speaker 1: because you know you're down when the game starts, and

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Speaker 1: the pass rush there's really not a lot of plays

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Speaker 1: that they can sort of do what they do get

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Speaker 1: after the quarterback that's dropped back to pass. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good question. It's a good point,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's part of it, especially with their opponents.

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Speaker 1: Both the Jaguars and the Cowboys both want to run

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Speaker 1: the football. They both want to run a lot of

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Speaker 1: play action passes. They don't do a lot of straight

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Speaker 1: five and seven step drops to give opposing defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: and then edge rusher is a chance to get after

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. But even when those guys we're taking those

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Speaker 1: five and seven step drops, even without the stack numbers there,

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Speaker 1: they really haven't affected the opposing quarterback enough the forced turnovers.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons the Giants defense only is

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Speaker 1: one takeaway so far this year because the pass rush

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Speaker 1: has not affected the quarterback and forced those turnovers. So

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a consistent problem with Olivia. Vernon

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Speaker 1: again is by far the best pass rusher. A high

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Speaker 1: ankle spring has kept him out. We'll see if he's

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Speaker 1: able to play this week, and that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: real big deal whether or not the Giants can put

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Speaker 1: consistent pressure on the Shaun Watson certainly one to watch

485
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Speaker 1: this week. Vernon and Eli Apple those injuries for the

486
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Speaker 1: Giants this week. What are some of the other storylines

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Speaker 1: you're looking at hanging into this Week three match up? John,

488
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to belabor it, but the number one

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Speaker 1: matchup has to be the Giants offensive line against the

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Speaker 1: Texans defensive front. That's the number one but he's covered

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Speaker 1: that in detail already. I think Genorris Jenkins against DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins is going to be a load of fun. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if the Giants are gonna have Jenkins carry

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Speaker 1: him on the field and you know, following left and

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Speaker 1: right depending on where he winds up. But the Hopkins

496
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Speaker 1: is one of the best receivers in the league. He's physical,

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Speaker 1: he's big. Genorris Jenkins, they nickname Jack Rabbit. He's fast,

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Speaker 1: he likes getting into a guys. He likes to be physical.

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Speaker 1: He likes to play man up, bump and run. That's

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Speaker 1: what the Giant defense does. They like to play man

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Speaker 1: to man outside. If we can get those two guys

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Speaker 1: matched up for a large portion of this game, it

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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, Now,

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Speaker 1: especially with the Texans getting Will Fuller back. With Fuller

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Speaker 1: and Hopkins on the field, that should be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun to watch those those matchups on the field.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, John, Yeah, absolutely, John Schmilk a team reporter

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Speaker 1: with Giants dot Com. John, thanks so much, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you here in Houston on Sunday. Looking forward to

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Speaker 1: going back to Texas. Second, that's right, back back to

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Speaker 1: back Texas trips. Right, good place to eat? Where should

512
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Speaker 1: I go Saturday night? Oh my gosh, you can't go

513
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Speaker 1: wrong with barbecue or tex Max. It's whatever you didn't

514
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Speaker 1: do in Dallas. But I'm biased. I think Houston's got

515
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Speaker 1: much better restaurants than Dallas. I look forward. We'll talk offline.

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Speaker 1: You send me a text, I'll give you some Rex.

517
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Speaker 1: How about that? Are you kidding me? Of course, Houston's

518
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Speaker 1: got better restaurants than that city up north. It's not

519
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Speaker 1: even it's not even close. We've got the most diverse

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Speaker 1: restaurant quality anywhere in a country. And that's just not

521
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Speaker 1: me saying that's like food and wine, that's all. That's GQ.

522
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Speaker 1: That's all kinds of people saying that, not just me.

523
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Speaker 1: So appreciate John Fort stopping by giving us his thoughts

524
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Speaker 1: on the New York Football Giants. Coming up next, my

525
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: man Russell Baxter joins us each and every Wednesday to

526
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Speaker 1: give his thoughts on the NFL. We will go around

527
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Speaker 1: the league with Russell next to get his thoughts about

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Speaker 1: Owen two. It is not the death knell you think

529
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Speaker 1: it is. People when a team starts Owen two. Russell's

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Speaker 1: got some thoughts. Wow that for you. Next right here

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Speaker 1: in Texans All Access M Welcome back to a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: Nation of Texans All Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football alst silent reporter,

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Speaker 1: joined by my good friend. He joins us in this

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Speaker 1: spot each and every Wednesday. You follow my Twitter at

536
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Backs Football Guru and read him at fanside dot com.

537
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: He is absolutely outstanding and he is Russell backs to Russell,

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00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: what's going on, my man? How you doing mun? I'm sorry,

539
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: doing good John? More importantly, how are you guys doing well? Russell?

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00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: It's been not so great after two losses. It's been tough.

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Speaker 1: I know, and two is not the death knell for

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00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: a team, and you know that. But I think there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people, and especially there are a

544
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: lot of analysts out there that say, oh, oh and two,

545
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Speaker 1: you can't go oh and two, you'll never make the playoffs. Russell.

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Speaker 1: That's not quite the case, No, especially recently. You know,

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Speaker 1: I remember ten years ago, in one year, three teams

548
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: went oh and two and all made the playoffs. Wow.

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00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: And then for the next four years, from two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine to twenty twelve, there were thirty teams that

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Speaker 1: went in two and none of them made the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So I think what happens sometimes is you start lumping

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Speaker 1: in the overall number. Okay, in the overall number since

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety is I want to say it's about twelve

555
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: percent of the O and twos. But funny enough, In

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Speaker 1: two thousand and thirteen, the Carolina Panthers went O and two.

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00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: In fact, they went one in three and won the

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Speaker 1: NFC South. In twenty fourteen, the Colts win O and

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Speaker 1: two and made it all the way to the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship Games. Right In two thousand and fifteen, both the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and the Houston Texans were O and two

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Speaker 1: and made the playoffs. In two thousand and sixteen, the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins were and two and one and four John

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Speaker 1: Wow and finished ten and six and made the playoffs.

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00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: And then last year the Saints given up for dead

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Speaker 1: O and two losses to Minnesota in New England, two

567
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Speaker 1: very good teams come back and win the NFC South.

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Speaker 1: So it's not O and twelve, it's O and two

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Speaker 1: now you get, you know, and three only five teams

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Speaker 1: in NFL history and four the San Diego Chargers in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, and they damn sure tried to pull

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Speaker 1: it off last year, didn't they Oh they did. They

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Speaker 1: gave up those first two games last year. But just

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Speaker 1: missing field goals, which obviously was a theme this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: Team's missing field goals. And in Russell, I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: I said, I said this this week. The Texans are

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Speaker 1: the only team in the NFL that started twice on

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Speaker 1: the road against two twenty seventeen playoff teams. Now that

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Speaker 1: isn't the end all be all, but those are teams

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Speaker 1: that know how to win. And obviously you start up

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Speaker 1: in New England. And that was the thing to me, Russell,

582
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: I think was frustrating to me. Everybody I listened to says,

583
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: just ripped a band aid off against the Patriots. That'll

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00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: be good, just ripped the band aid off. But then

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00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: they didn't want to look at the scab underneath. And

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Speaker 1: that I think is what bothered me. You can't say, well,

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Speaker 1: I just ripped the band aid off, and then when

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00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't go your way, oh damn, everybody, they don't

589
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: know anything. They need to fire everybody. You can't. You

590
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. And like you said, teams

591
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: are only two. I mean think that Saints team was

592
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: one fluke play away from going to the NFC champ

593
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: a ship, you gotta get a few things right. And

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Speaker 1: now the Giants come to town, another team that's Owen

595
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: two and they also know the stats Russell. So this

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00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: is a game of Owen two on each side. But

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00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: the Texans being home is definitely something I know the

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: players are really excited about, and that's got to give

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: them a little bit of advantage to get back home

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00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. Yeah, there's no

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00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: doubt about it. And let's be honest. I mean, I

602
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: think a lot of people jumping all over Deshaun Watson

603
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: un understandably so from the twenty six quarters we saw

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Speaker 1: him play. But you know as well as I do,

605
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Speaker 1: when a player is coming back from a knee injury,

606
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: he might be one hundred percent healthy physically, but coming

607
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: back and responding and being comfortable sometimes takes another year, right.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing I'll say about DeShawn Watson so

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00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: far is the word to me would be tentative. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's easy to call some of the play

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Speaker 1: calling on Bill O'Brien and blame that. I mean, you know,

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00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: it's funny Bill O'Brien doesn't have an offensive coordinator. So

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00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: if they're losing, that's the reason. Okay, right, right, Listen,

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Speaker 1: there's been some shaky decision making on a lot of parts.

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00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we give up that fake punk return to

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00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: two safeties last week in Tennessee. I mean, I understand

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00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: where the frustration comes from. Okay, but this is a

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00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: team that's trying to rebound from a four and twelve season,

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Speaker 1: and now they get back home and they should take

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Speaker 1: care of business against the New York Giants team that

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Speaker 1: hasn't blocked anyone in the first two weeks of the season,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that continues. I really am hoping that continues.

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Speaker 1: Not for sake Qua Barkley's sake, because I really like him,

624
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Speaker 1: but I just hope it continues at least this week.

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Speaker 1: They can get it right week four. I just don't

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Speaker 1: want him to get it right in week three. We're

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Speaker 1: talking to our man, Russell. Backs are at Backs, Bax

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Speaker 1: football Guru, Russell. I know it's early in the year,

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Speaker 1: and we I ask you this question a lot, and

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Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't ask it, but I ask it

631
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Speaker 1: so that you can take it as many ways as

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Speaker 1: you want. Whether the Jacksonville Jaguars the best team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL this year, or at least the best team

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Speaker 1: in AFC in twenty eighteen. Well, my latest power rankings,

635
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: I have them number two, and I'd go back and

636
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: look what they've done. The first two weeks. They won

637
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 1: an ugly road game ye against the Giants, and then

638
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: last week they beat the New England Patriots with their offense.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't necessary leader deep, not that their defense didn't

640
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: play well. Jacksonville had four hundred and eighty one total

641
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: yards last week. Yeah, Blake Bortles two for three seventy seven.

642
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Speaker 1: If I told you someone in that game had four

643
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one total yards and someone threw for

644
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: three seventy seven, my guests, it would be the other guy,

645
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots. Yeah, yes, absolutely, yeah. I

646
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: mean they had they were up eighteen points, I believe

647
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: twice in that game, twenty one three and thirty one thirteen. Ye.

648
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: And I know it finished thirty one twenty and Jacksonville

649
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: even turned over the ball a couple of times later

650
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: in the game. But they never seen I mean, they

651
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: never seemed like they lost control of the game. I

652
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: think there was a little ang because, of course we

653
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: saw what happened to them last year in the AFC

654
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: title game. I think the difference in one year shows

655
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: you that. I don't want to say that Doug Peterson

656
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: provided the blueprint because I think that's just too easy.

657
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: I think what the Eagles showed last year is a

658
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: lesson the league should have learned twenty years ago, and

659
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: that's don't take your foot off the pedal against Bill

660
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 1: Belichick and Tom Brady. Yeah, there's no question. I think

661
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: that's the That is the one thing. First of all,

662
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: you have to look them in the eye and not blank.

663
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: And then you've got to be able to play a

664
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: perfect game. Will you play a clean game, You're gonna

665
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: be in the ball game at some point. Jacksonville didn't

666
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: even didn't play just a clean game. It was exceptional.

667
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles was really really good. Russell, what do you

668
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: make of what's going on at Pittsburgh? Levion Bell not there?

669
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: And I understand that one in Antonio Brown missus practice

670
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: or missus a meeting on Monday. He's back today on Wednesday.

671
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: But it just feels like the apple cart has kind

672
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: of been flipped over in Pittsburgh, and it it just

673
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. And maybe it's kind of the same

674
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: thing here. You don't see quite those kind of things

675
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: from individual players, But I know there's been a lot

676
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: of upset people outside the building. You look at Pittsburgh,

677
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: sounds like there's upset people inside the building. What do

678
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: you make of what's going on with Pittsburgh oh one

679
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: and one team, the first time they've been winless in

680
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: the first two weeks, it's two thousand and four. What

681
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: do you make of what they've got going on there? Well,

682
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: I think it's a case of a team that has

683
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: kind of lost its way in terms of the style

684
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: football that wins games. Okay, defense has taken a backseat

685
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. It's really been about the Big Three. And

686
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, you can go through history and talk about

687
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: big you know. I mean when you think about the Triplets,

688
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: you think about Troy Aikman and Emma Smith and and

689
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Mike Lurvin and people were like, oh, you know, Bubba,

690
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: But Dallas had good defenses. Pittsburgh does not have a

691
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: good defense right now. Think about the last two times

692
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers have played at home. They've lost forty five,

693
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: forty two and forty two. Thirty seven. Wow, the Jacksonville

694
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: Jaguars in Kansas City cheats. Yeah, okay, oh my god.

695
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: In the last and this, and I gotta be honest

696
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: with this started before Ryan Chazier went down. It started

697
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: on a Sunday night against the Green Bay Packers when

698
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: it was Brett Hunley and not Aaron Rodgers. That's right, yea.

699
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: In their last nine games, and I do when I

700
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: say touchdowns, I don't count interception return to buy. In

701
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: their last nine games, the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive unit has

702
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: given up thirty two touchdowns. Wow, that's the season total

703
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: for some teams. Yeah, okay, but you think about how

704
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: New England was able to do what they did. I mean,

705
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, remember both so they wind up beating ball

706
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: toward thirty nine thirty eight Okay, yep. They came back

707
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: and beat Green Bay thirty one twenty eight. The winning

708
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of masked that. So it's it's I think the

709
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: frustration is you're seeing guys put up big numbers and

710
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: you're seeing somebody like Antonio Brown thinking and I'm not

711
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: going to get into his head, but it's almost like, hey,

712
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: you need to get me the ball because our defense

713
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: can't stop anybody. And I can sort of see why

714
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: you'd say that with all the different times they've gotten

715
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: him the ball, and he definitely has produced, there's no

716
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: no question about that. But man, holy smokes. Thirty two

717
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: touchdowns and maybe two offensive touchdown that's not including who

718
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: was was Kelvin Smith running back a fumble in the

719
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: in the in the playoffs or my I can't remember.

720
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I think it was Telvin Smith. Yeah, it was six

721
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: is not not including returns, Okay, I mean their offensive,

722
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: their defensive Patrick Mahone made it look ridiculously easy last week,

723
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: ridiculously easy, and you just you almost sensed that every

724
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: time he threw the ball he was going to complete it. Yeah,

725
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: and they didn't get a lot of heat. I mean

726
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: the week before against Cleveland. I know that was a

727
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: bunch of weird circumstances and so on, but they still

728
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: gave up the league. They had seven sacks in that

729
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: game and still gave up a fourteen point lead in

730
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Oh my gosh, Oh that's crazy, Russell.

731
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: The Vikings and Packers played a game that everybody seemingly

732
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: is talking about for a number of different reasons. Missed

733
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: field goals. This craziness on both sides. But the talking point,

734
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: obviously is the Clay Matthews hit on Kirk Cousins that

735
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: was called a penalty. It feels like this, I don't

736
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: know the right way of saying this, but it feels

737
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: like the NFL sort of knew this was they were

738
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: gonna get some bitriol like this and that at some

739
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: point they would adjust. But it feel was like the

740
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: NFL saying no, no, what he did was wrong on

741
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: that play, and Russell, I can't watch that play and

742
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: think he did anything that deserved a fifteen yard penalty

743
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: which completely changed the outcome of that particular game. What

744
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: do you make of the way that went down with

745
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews and that penalty, And do you think the

746
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: NFL will eventually lessen and maybe step back from the

747
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: stance it's taken on those hits on the quarterback because

748
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: that just didn't to me, it didn't seem like at

749
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: all a penalty that deserved a fifteen yard And I've

750
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: seen others that went the other way that were definitely

751
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: fifteen yard worthy and didn't get called. What do you

752
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: make of what happened in Green Bay last weekend. I

753
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: didn't understand. I honestly didn't understand it at all, And

754
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: in some ways, I think retaliation is not the right word. John.

755
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: It was almost a matter of circumstances, becase, remember the

756
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: week before Clay Matthews got hit with a penalty and

757
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: a legitimate one. Right, Okay, So I think sometimes I

758
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: think sometimes the flag comes out before the play is over.

759
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yes, I agree with you. I

760
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: think that's what happened, and I think that's why you

761
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: need to huddle. But this has been my problem all

762
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: along with any of these interpretive rules, you're getting get

763
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: different opinions. And I found it incredibly interesting, incredibly interesting

764
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: that Dean Blandino and Mike Prayer came out and had

765
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: something to say about this rule after the Clay Matthews game. I,

766
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: in fact, it's funny. What a game of controversy you

767
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: had that play, and then you had people, of course,

768
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: very upset that for the second week in the row.

769
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: The only people in the world that we're happy about

770
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: a second tie was Men's Wear House. Okay, So what

771
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: did I hear after the game? We need to change

772
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: the overtime rules? Excuse me? We change the overtime rules

773
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: when it came to the Viking Brett Fard not getting

774
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: the ball in overtime. So what exactly do you want

775
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: to do now? It's a great point. And I heard

776
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: I was listening to Jim Miller and Pat kurwould talk

777
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: about it yesterday and they just said, yeah, just do

778
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: way with overtime. If they think that fifteen minutes is

779
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: too much for the players, then ten minutes is too

780
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: much for the players. Just no overtime. Just go back

781
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: to way old school rules and get rid of overtime

782
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: completely at that point, and yeah, you're gonna have to

783
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: live with ties. But what are we doing now? We've

784
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: had ties in the first two weeks in Russell, I

785
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: can't remember. First of all, it's hard to remember ties,

786
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: but I definitely cannot remember ties in the first two

787
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: weeks of a season like we've had. I don't think

788
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: it's happened since regular season overtime was created in nineteen

789
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: seventy four. You have to go back before there was me.

790
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: And by the way, I always giggle at this historic note. Okay,

791
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: there used to be a lot of ties in the

792
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: league right way in the early days that where it's Ton.

793
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: But even in the sixties and seventies, you would have

794
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean you you'd see some you know, like a

795
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: record let's said to be like, um eight, let's see,

796
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: let's go fourteen game season nine three and two, right,

797
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: and I'm just slowing that out there, okay, right, it

798
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: would be your win loss record. Because there was no

799
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: regular season overtime, so maybe maybe forty four years ago

800
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: there was a hint of why they shouldn't have messed

801
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: with this, John. The very first regular season overtime game

802
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: in NFL history was played in Denver between the Pittsburgh

803
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: Steelers and the Denver Broncos, and it ended in the time,

804
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: that's the best. They go for overtime and get the time.

805
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, for those people who get so

806
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: upset about ties and affecting what happens a regular season,

807
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: the Steelers went on on won the Super Bowl that year.

808
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: That's right, they did. They did behind a great defense

809
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: and Terry Bradshaw doing just enough. Sort of sounds like

810
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: the Jaguars in twenty seventeen. And then of course that

811
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: changed and the rules change when Terry Bradshall suddenly had

812
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: to do a lot in the late seventy, so well,

813
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen is not

814
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: Blake Bortle's turn to do that with the offense in

815
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, sort of like the Steelers in seventy four

816
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: and they didn't win a championship. But it's Jaguars are

817
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: playing like that. They're gonna be very tough to beat

818
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: with that defense. Russell Baxter at Backs Football Guru reading

819
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: stuff at fanside dot com. He does a tremendous job

820
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: read his power rankings and we will have him here

821
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: every single Wednesday at this time. Russell, you are the

822
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: best one man. Thank you very much. I appreciate and

823
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: by the way, to follow me on Backs football. Who

824
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: wrote will we're retweeting that oh and two piece that

825
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: I was alluding to that I did for NFL spin Zone.

826
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: It will give you all the skinny, including the four

827
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: teams that got to the Super Bowl after being O

828
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: and two. How about that there's hope. That's what Russell

829
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: just said. Russell, appreciate my man. You got it. Coming

830
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: up next, it's our men behind the Mic segment. Mark

831
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: Vanermuer will catch up with Bob Popa the voice of

832
00:43:57,640 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: the New York Giants right here on Texas Deloxis. One

833
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: of the great things about facing an NFC team is

834
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity to meet and talk with a

835
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: lot of different people that you don't really mingle with

836
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: during your regular season. When you're an ANFCU see a

837
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: team every two three years. In the NFC, you're gonna

838
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: see a team every four years. Last time we saw

839
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: the Giants was twenty fourteen. I bring that up because

840
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: this is the first time that we have had New

841
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: York Giants play by play man Bob Papa on the air.

842
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: I hear him each every morning on NFL Radio, along

843
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: with a litany of guests alongside of him, so I

844
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: hear Bob pretty much every day. His voice is unmistakable,

845
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: and it is an opportunity to get his thoughts on

846
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, and we do that. In a

847
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: segment we called Men behind the Mics, our play by

848
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: play voice, the voice of the Texans, Mark Vandemir, sat

849
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: down with Bob Papa and talked about the Giants, Eli

850
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: Manning and where this team is going and what the

851
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: Texans can expect to see on Sunday. Bob how are

852
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: you coping with the own two start? My friend, it's

853
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: gotta be tough with the Giants in the early going. Yeah,

854
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people are a

855
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: little surprised at how much the new offensive line has

856
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: struggled out of the gate. Obviously, they changed all five positions.

857
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: There's only one holdover player, and Eric Flowers was moved

858
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: from left tackle the right tackle and the other night.

859
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: I think was a huge disappointment actionvill. You knew it

860
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: was going to be a tough game. You guys know

861
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: how good the Jaguars are defensively. But for the Giants

862
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: inability to block the Cowboys at all up front and

863
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: not able to kind of use their weapons, I think

864
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: has people a little bit stunned right now. Because there's

865
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: plays to be had down the field, But if the

866
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: quarterback is constantly ducking and getting smashed, it's pretty hard

867
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: to get to anything else before we get back to

868
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: the offense. What about the defensive side of the ball,

869
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: Because you hold the Cowboys to twenty, I mean, you're

870
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: able to do some things positively there and the Jags.

871
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a relatively close game. So what

872
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: do you think of that side of the ball. You know,

873
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: they've they've had some mistakes early in the game, but

874
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: they seem to be getting better during the game. One

875
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: of the problems that they have right now, especially with

876
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon dealing with his injury, his ankle injury, is

877
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: they don't really get a consistent pass rush, and Jak

878
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: Prescott and Blake Bortles had a lot of time to

879
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: sit back there in the pocket. But you know, I

880
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: see improvement on that side of the ball. That's gonna

881
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: be a work in progress. Because they're switching to a

882
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: three four, they have a lot of new players. I mean, Mark,

883
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: the Giants only have twenty three players on their roster

884
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: that were on the roster last year. I mean they

885
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: got thirty guys moved out, so they're constantly churning the roster.

886
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they made the most waiver claims after the

887
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: final cuts were made. You know, after the last preseason game,

888
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: they brought an eight muting more new guys then. So

889
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: it's they're kind of mixing a matching right now. And

890
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna have their handsful against the Texans because you know,

891
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: they haven't gone against the receiving corps yet. That's as

892
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: good as houstage. I mean, they went against Dallas, who

893
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: really doesn't have any receivers, and Jacksonville doesn't have world

894
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: beaters either. It's gonna be interesting to see how they

895
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: handled a guy like DeAndre Hopkins. Bob popa voice of

896
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: the Giants joining us Eli Manning. Class of O four

897
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: was a great class and those top three guys are

898
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: all still playing. What are we looking at at Eli

899
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Manning at this stage of his career? The New York

900
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: media was grilling Pat Shermer about Eli's confidence. Where do

901
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: you think Eli is at? Well, listen, I believe Eli

902
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: can still play. They believed after they watched the tape

903
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: at the end of the last season that Eli's got

904
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: more than enough game left in him. Has he been

905
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: a little shell shocked? He'll never admit to this, but

906
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: the amount of hits that he's taken over the last

907
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: couple of years and the Giants issues don't go back

908
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: to last year. The Giants issues traced back to as

909
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: far back as two ten, when they started whipping on

910
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: draft classes and the amount of players that they drafted

911
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: over the last six years that not only were no

912
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: hitters for them, but no hitters in the NFL where

913
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: once they left here they didn't even go sign anywhere

914
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: else is an alarming number. And they missed one a

915
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: bunch of offensive linemens over that period of time. So

916
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 1: then you wind up in a situation like this where

917
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: you've had one of the worst running teams in the

918
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: NFL over the last four years, and you've had these

919
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: bad offensive line drafts and now you're going out and

920
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: you have to sort of rebuild an offensive line on

921
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: the fly. And Eli has taken the brunt of that

922
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: by the amount of hits that he's taken and no

923
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: running game, and I think he's a little shocked at

924
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: how bad it was the other day. I mean, you knew,

925
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, they couldn't handle some simple stunts that the

926
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys were throwing at him. And it's got to get

927
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: fixed in a hurry, because he's not going to run

928
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: you out of trouble. And as we saw Monday Night football,

929
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: if your whole line is not holding up their end

930
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: of the bargain, Russell Wilson can run and he was

931
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 1: getting obliterated. So it's a protection is something that they've

932
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: got to fix, and they've got to get a more

933
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: consistent run game. Going Bob Pop a voice of the

934
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: Giants joining us on Texans Radio se Quon Barkley. I

935
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: know it hasn't blossomed yet, and you describe some of

936
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: the reasons why, But how good do you think he

937
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: can be? Based on what you've seen so far, he's

938
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: going to be outstanding. I mean every time he touches

939
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: the ball, first of all, he's making a first guy miss.

940
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: And even when he gets a two yard run, I

941
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 1: mean he's turned some four yard losses into two yard runs.

942
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: And as fans saw on Sunday Night Football, when they

943
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: throw in the ball, he's obviously a factor there. Look,

944
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: he's still learning. I mean against against Jacksonville because remember

945
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: he only played in the first preseason game, and then

946
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: he had a hamstring in so they didn't play in

947
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: any of the remaining three preseason games. You could see

948
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: there were some learning things on the fly as far

949
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: as Fallen is blocking a little bit more understanding the

950
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: flow of an NFL game. You know, all these young

951
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: running backs, the first thing you want to do is

952
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: bounce it outside because in college you got the wide hash.

953
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: You bounce it outside and you're beating guys that will

954
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: never even be invited to an NFL camp, let alone

955
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: play in the NFL. Now you're in the NFL, the

956
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: hashes are in the middle of the field, the fields

957
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: more balanced, and everybody you're playing against has already made

958
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: it in the NFL. But I think you know his

959
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: potential and what we've seen so far is pretty dynamic. Bob.

960
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I know you do a ton of these interviews and

961
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: I do too, and people always ask about the big games.

962
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: But give me a name or two New York Giants

963
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: players who you're excited about, who people might not be

964
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: talking about that much nationally. That's a really good question.

965
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean, from the offensive side of the ball, I

966
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: want to see. I mean, Evan Ingram was a first

967
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: round pick, but you want to see him be more consistent.

968
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: He had a touchdown catch against the Cowboys. He's got

969
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: mad skills, and he had the drops last year and

970
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: I totally got that because of all the injuries they

971
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: had at the receiver and suddenly you're asking a rookie

972
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: to be the focal point of your passing attack. He

973
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: had a really good camp, had some drop issues in

974
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: Week one. He's a guy that I want to see,

975
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, blossom into the kind of player that he

976
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: can be. Lorenzo Carter on the defensive side of the

977
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: ball is an active linebacker who the Giants drafted at

978
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: the University of Georgia. And you know, from what we've

979
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: seen so far, you know, he's wearing his ability to

980
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: use his hands to understand spacing to get after the

981
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: quarterback and no one to put his hands up to

982
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: knock down a pass. I think he's this kid is

983
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: just scratching the surface, and I think he can be

984
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: a fantastic player for the Giants moving forward, Bob. On

985
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: October seventh, the Texans play the Dallas Cowboys. They only

986
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: meet every four years, being an NFC team, just like

987
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: with the Giants. But what do you make of Dallas

988
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: in the early going here having just seen them up

989
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: close and personal. Well, they're good defensively. They've got, you know,

990
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: a very athletic defensive front seven. They got guys that

991
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: can fly around to the football, and they can get

992
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: after the quarterback, I think, and their secondaries better. The

993
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: secondary is a lot better, and I think people sort

994
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: of misidentify some of the Cowboys secondary play over the

995
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: last couple of years. It's superimposed on this current team.

996
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: It's a better secondary listen. In order for Dallas to

997
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: be successful this year, the Cowboys are gonna have to

998
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: play to a certain profile that hopefully their fans are

999
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: going to be able to tolerate. And that profile is this,

1000
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: run the football, control the clock, use the quarterback in

1001
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: their run game, and then play lights out defense and

1002
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: play low scoring kind of games. I know, Cowboys fans

1003
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: get all excited and they think about you know, Witten

1004
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: and Deaz in his prime catching passes and making big plays.

1005
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: That's not their profile. If they play to their profile,

1006
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: they can grind out wins, but you know, their receiving

1007
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: corps leaves a lot to be desired. Bob, a couple

1008
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: more for you. You do a lot of golf, and

1009
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: I always think being a golfer might be the best

1010
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: professional athlete to be all the sports that you call,

1011
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: is that the one because you can play it your

1012
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: whole life, professionally, your whole life. Basically, what do you think, Yeah,

1013
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: it's not a bad it's not a bad lifestyle. Not

1014
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: to mention, you know, and with these stories coming out

1015
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: about the Hall of Fame guys wanting you know, lifetime

1016
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: medical benefits and they want to get paid as with

1017
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: famers and all this other stuff. The greatest pension plan

1018
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: in all of sport is the PGA Tour because for

1019
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: every cut they make, it qualifies for their pension. All

1020
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: the dollars that they earn, you know, goes into their pension,

1021
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: and they keep earning and earning and earning, and with

1022
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: the dollar values going up on the PGA Tour, they're

1023
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: putting more and more money in. And then when they

1024
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: turn fifty they have a PGA Tour Champions pension that starts,

1025
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: so they're like almost double dipping and they can keep earning. Now,

1026
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: the other side of this is you got to get

1027
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: your tour cards, and you know there's a lot of

1028
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: guys that have talent that never made it. And remember something,

1029
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: you got to pay your own way. You pay your

1030
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: own airline, you pay your own hotel, you pay for

1031
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 1: your food, you pay for your own caddy. So you're

1032
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's costing you when you're starting out early

1033
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: in your career, it's costing you about one hundred and

1034
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: fifty grand a year just to chase the dream. And

1035
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: if you think about, you know, the amount of guys

1036
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,240
Speaker 1: on tour and the amount of guys that never Madeken

1037
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: on tour that are tremendous players. You know, that's the

1038
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: tough road of it. So but it's still it's to me,

1039
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: it's the way to go. Either that or a left

1040
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,479
Speaker 1: handed pitcher that can get lefties. That's not bad either.

1041
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: All right. One more, being in the New York market,

1042
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: you still travel all around the country all the other

1043
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: sports you do and everything. But is it just talk

1044
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: or is it reality that New York is the toughest

1045
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: place to play for an athlete? In your opinion, it's

1046
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: pretty tough. I mean, you know, the expectation level is

1047
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: championship or nothing. You've got. You've always got the comparison

1048
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: between the two teams, right because you've got two football teams,

1049
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: you've got two baseball teams, got two NBA teams, and

1050
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: you've got three hockey teams. So there's there's always that

1051
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: media scrutiny comparing one to the other, and it can

1052
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: get pretty rough around here. Um. The one thing that

1053
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: football teams in New York do have to it to

1054
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: their advantages. It's a baseball town for so like the

1055
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: first month of the season, if you're struggling, you can

1056
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: fly a little bit under the radar depending on what's

1057
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: going on with the Yankees or the Mets. But the

1058
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: Mets have been kind of out of the equation. So

1059
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: if the Yankees, if they get into the playoffs and

1060
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: then all that other stuff, you can kind of run

1061
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: under cover a little bit. But yeah, I can get

1062
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Speaker 1: pretty rough here, especially with you know, the competing fan bases,

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Speaker 1: and you know, an average coaches press conference or a

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Speaker 1: locker room session with you know, with the Giants on

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00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: an average day is you know, you've got at least

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Speaker 1: fifteen reporters and you've got at least ten to twelve

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Speaker 1: TV camera crews there, not to mention radio stations. So

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Speaker 1: it's you know, it's forty people every day. That's a

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Speaker 1: lot of microphones. Okay, Bob, thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate the visit. We look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: you on Sunday. Mark, thanks for having me. As always.

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Speaker 1: Over the years, I've become so accustomed to hearing Mike

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00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: Keith and Bob Socy two teams and the Patriots and Titans.

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Speaker 1: We face the Titans twice a year, we face the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: it feels like twice a year. Names and voices that

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: I've gotten so accustomed to hearing, so it's really cool

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Speaker 1: to have Bob Popa on the show to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Giants, an MC team that last was here in

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Speaker 1: twenty ten. Texas last played in twenty fourteen. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the one. The one thing I would love to

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: see a little bit more of is I wish there

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00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: was a way to rotate sooner than every four years,

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00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: especially with that team up north. I wish we could

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: face those suckers every couple of years. But we'll leave

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Speaker 1: that for the schedule makers to have to deal with.

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Speaker 1: All Right, it's time for this week's stats Challenge. It's

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Speaker 1: com today to register to take the stats challenge now.

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Speaker 1: The number is three in three and oz a perfect record.

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Speaker 1: That is what Eli Manning is against the Houston Texas,

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Speaker 1: A W and twenty two thousand and six, a W

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Speaker 1: here in twenty ten, and then a you again in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. That win in twenty fourteen was the first

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Speaker 1: win for the Giants in fourteen. It was the first

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Speaker 1: loss for the Texans in twenty fourteen. It was a

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Speaker 1: Giants team that was struggling in twenty fourteen, mightily and

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00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: Eli was and an Eli well, he did his thing

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Speaker 1: on that Sunday in MetLife Stadium and got the Giants

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Speaker 1: a win. The Giants three and oh with Eli Manning

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Speaker 1: at the helm, oh and one with Carry Collins at

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Speaker 1: the helm. So Eli has a perfect record. And you

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00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: know when you say it out loud, it tends to

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: change itself the next time it happens. I remember we

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00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: were going to Miami in twenty fifteen. The Texans were

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00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: undefeated down in Miami and then that changed very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully this changes for Eli Manning on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk more about what the Texans have to do

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Speaker 1: throughout the rest of this week to get a w

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Speaker 1: against the Giants. But three and oh, Eli Manning, he's

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00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: got a perfect record. He's definitely gonna want to keep

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: that going, no question about that, and get the Giants

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Speaker 1: off the schneide as the Texans trying to get off

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Speaker 1: the schneide as well. Coming up next, Mark and I

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01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: talk about how the Texans are going to do that

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: and are we fully and completely beyond last Sunday where

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01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: is that loss to the Titans sort of lingering still

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01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: and how do we get that stench, if you will,

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Speaker 1: away from all of us. It's talk about that next

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Speaker 1: right here in Texans All Access. Welcome back to Wenesday

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Speaker 1: intition to Texans All Access. I am your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: and we are in the Honday Texans Radio studio. I

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Speaker 1: say we because I am joined now by the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Texans, Mark vandam or Mark? How are you? Johnny?

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01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm rar to go. Is it Sunday yet? Not yet?

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Speaker 1: Not yet? We're gonna get there. We are going to

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Speaker 1: get there by the way house Food Ruckers last night,

1127
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: fund Ruckers was really good. Actually, we had a great crowd.

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Speaker 1: We were in Stafford. We had Whitney Merciless. We had

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: a fun show. Look, we have some fun shows at

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01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: Food Rutgers. I think it's a great way to get

1131
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: the players away from the building and just sort of

1132
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: stretch out and talk about things. A lot of football,

1133
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: but a lot of other stuff as well. And it's

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Speaker 1: hard to say anybody's better than Whitney at this. You know,

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01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: Whitney is so good, He's so worldly, if you will.

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: We talked about his trip to Haiti a little bit.

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01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: That was interesting. Yeah, and I just think I think

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01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: the world of the guy, and I know that it's

1139
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: going to come around for him in terms of production

1140
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: on the field. And you see all the nuances. You

1141
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: see the tackles made, the play against the run. If

1142
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: he makes something happen and somebody else gets credit for

1143
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: a sack or a tackle, that doesn't always show up

1144
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: the stat sheet, But I think the numbers will come

1145
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: for Whitney as he continues to play football. He's like

1146
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: what like a lot of the other guys who are

1147
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: just getting back to the game after being out for

1148
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: so long. Yeah, no doubt. I think the one thing

1149
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: that people got to keep in mind, I think you

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01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: just said it with Witt. I think he's playing the

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01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: run pretty well. There was one player early on I

1152
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: felt like he could have taken on a blocker and

1153
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: done a better job. I think it was maybe the

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01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: first player, second play of the game. But after that

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01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: he set the edge very well. He did a great job. Again,

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01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: the defense has played well. And I go back to

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01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: what JJ said after the game on Sunday, Mark he

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01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: was asked about getting pressure on Gabbert. Are you surprised?

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Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how the question was phrased, but

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Speaker 1: it was something among the lines of are you surprised

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Speaker 1: you guys didn't get more pressure on Gabbert? And JJ said,

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Speaker 1: look how many how many five step drops did he take? Right?

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Speaker 1: And in honesty, in all honesty, he was basically like

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Speaker 1: five or six. The Titans knew. The Titans knew get

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: the ball out of Blaine's hands. They had to to

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Speaker 1: be able to do that, and that effectively can slow

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: down Whitney, Mercilessen, JJ Way, Jimmion clown and you do

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01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: kedge for can slow those guys down. That's the way

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Speaker 1: you have to go about it. Here's the thing, though,

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Speaker 1: if you don't give up, if you don't give up

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01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: to seven right off the bat, and then you score

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: one of the other seven drives that you got inside

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Speaker 1: the forty yardland and put up a field goal or

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01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: touchdown at that point, you win the game by by

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Speaker 1: ten to fourteen points. And then they're it's completely different.

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Speaker 1: It's completely different because now if you're a head twenty

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Speaker 1: four to fourteen at the end of the ball game,

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Speaker 1: what's you gotta do. He's gonna stand back here and

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01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: throw nice to sitting duck. Yeah, But because you because

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01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: they got that lead. They were playing with the house money,

1181
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: and they kind of were all after doing anyway because

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: they do that. It was not expected that they would

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Speaker 1: win the game in the state they were in. But

1184
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Speaker 1: like you just described, if you do this, you do that,

1185
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: that's the NFL, you know it. And they got to

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01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: make those little plays. They gotta make little things happen

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01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: here or there, because any number of plays in that

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: game could have made a difference, and it just didn't

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Speaker 1: work out for them. So this week they gotta play

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Speaker 1: I can't say mistake free. You're gonna make some mistakes,

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01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: but you really gotta cut down on them if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to beat the Giants, because they're hungry,

1193
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: they're desperate, they're starving for a win, just like you are.

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Speaker 1: No question, I don't think there's such thing as a

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01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: perfect game, but I think you can play a relatively

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Speaker 1: clean game. It doesn't mean that you have zero penalties

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Speaker 1: and zero turnovers, but I think that is that is

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Speaker 1: a big deal. The turnovers they've they've come up at

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Speaker 1: some inopportune times. Now against New England they created turnovers.

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Speaker 1: The other day against Tennessee, they created them. But they

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't take advantage of them. They created a funnel with

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Speaker 1: JJ tackle Corey Davis, but they weren't able to get

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01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: on well. They created possible turnovers, balls, potential exhausts. Ball

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you didn't get it. And I think

1205
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Speaker 1: it's a great point. You know, if you get one

1206
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: the other day, you probably win. But you didn't get

1207
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: that one. So they got to figure out a wait

1208
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Speaker 1: against against the Giants. As we get into the Giants mark,

1209
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Speaker 1: this is gonna sound strange because a lot of times

1210
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Speaker 1: you would like to have some familiarity with your opponent.

1211
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: But I think the last two weeks it's almost been

1212
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Speaker 1: a little bit too much, especially on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Those two teams Teas with the personnel that they have

1214
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Speaker 1: on that side, personnel, and of course the Titans, the

1215
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Speaker 1: coaching staffs. They I don't know if that had anything

1216
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: to do with it, but I think it's gonna be

1217
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: good a to be at home, be to play a

1218
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: team you don't see all that often. Right, You just

1219
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: coach your game, you call your game, you execute your

1220
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: game plan on both sides, offense, defense, and of course

1221
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: on special teams, and you just do your thing and

1222
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: see where it is. I feel like the first two games,

1223
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe there was that thought of man, they're so familiar

1224
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: with us. Oh, I don't know. I think it's gonna

1225
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: be good. Did you see a different opponent on the

1226
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Speaker 1: other side. And the Texans have been don't not say great,

1227
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: but they've been pretty good against NFC teams since Bill

1228
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: Bryant got here. They lost in fourteen to the Eagles.

1229
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: They lost last year to the forty nine ers. Those

1230
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Speaker 1: are the only losses other than that. They've run a queen.

1231
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Speaker 1: They've run pretty much a clean sweep through the NFC

1232
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: when the NFC has come through the building. But I

1233
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Speaker 1: think week one just I don't even want the desperation.

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: I just want them to relax, play the game. And

1235
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: if you do that, you'll be in a good stead

1236
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: no matter what. Yeah, Whitney talked about last night swarm tackling.

1237
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Speaker 1: Yeah he also talked about he didn't use these words

1238
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: about how they might have been a little tight before

1239
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: the game or whatever. And I know that you've thought

1240
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: that off the air anyway, if nothing else, yea, And

1241
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: I think they just got to settle down to play football.

1242
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about the Lawrence Taylor NFL

1243
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: Films miked up sound bite it. We gotta go out

1244
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: there like a bunch of crazed dogs. That's what they

1245
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: have to do. Yeah, and just let it all hang out,

1246
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: play at home and get the crowd going in their

1247
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: favorite grab it early lead. Then everyone's going to be happy.

1248
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: And then you get the momentum rolling and off you

1249
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: go and you're doing some positive things. If you're playing

1250
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: from behind again, oh my gosh, it's not going to

1251
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: be a happy bunch of Texans fans out there at

1252
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: NRG Stadium in the seats. So you better out there

1253
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium, like we're not in the building right now,

1254
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: Why I mean out there in the bowl. There's the

1255
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: bowl and there's where we are not in the bowl.

1256
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: But what's the final thing that Lawrence Taylor says in

1257
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: that clip. Let's go out there like a bunch of

1258
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: these dogs and have some fun, have some fun, some fun.

1259
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: And I think one of the things when you get

1260
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: sort of we've gotta win, we gotta wine, winning ends

1261
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: up being a result and the process of how you

1262
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: get there. You gotta enjoy what you're doing and getting

1263
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: there and and and hopefully they're along the way going

1264
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. But yes, I think

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01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: people will will enjoy it when we win. Yeah, I

1266
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: understand that you've got it, but I think to get there,

1267
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's what came first a chicken. It's like

1268
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta just let loose and play. You

1269
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: got it, You got enough guys, got enough guys and

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01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: just have some fun and play. And look, I know

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Speaker 1: you can't go out there and it's just uh, you know,

1272
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: a but it's just a giggle festa. But you know,

1273
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: you score touchdown, celebrate DeAndre, catch a touchdown, throw the

1274
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: ball on the stands DeAndre. I mean he's done. You

1275
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: know you've done that before. If you get a sack,

1276
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: celebrate with you guys, get the crowd, hype, have fun.

1277
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: And I think playing at home is fun for these guys.

1278
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: When you think about it, We've had really one opportunity

1279
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: to do that. I mean Game four is Game four.

1280
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: Guys are a dressed, but you know they're coming on

1281
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: the tunnel with the new lights and everything. How hype

1282
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: that's got to get them and then they're gonna be

1283
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: announced for the first time. And I just think being

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: back at home is going to be a nice election

1285
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: for these guys. It will be. You've been in environments

1286
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: in the first two weeks where every time the opponent

1287
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: does something good, there's a big amount of support for them. Yes,

1288
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: and every time you do something bad they're cheering because

1289
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: you know it's just the obvious stuff. But I just

1290
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: think you just got to get in front of your

1291
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: own fans again. And you're reminded me of something a

1292
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: sailboat racing coach I once had said, no, I'm not

1293
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: gonna go there because that's so bad. And it's true.

1294
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: He said, let's have some fun because I was so

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01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: tight during this one. Yeah. I can't even say the

1296
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: word regatta. Am I allowed to say that on this show?

1297
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: All Right? That's it. I've that's it, same time out.

1298
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: It's fine, Yeah, it's fine. That's my school sport. I

1299
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: can't figure out whether I'm excited to see the Eli

1300
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: Manning or I'm dreading it. And this is why I

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01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: say that. The last time we saw Eli was in

1302
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. That's somewhere in between. Yeah, the Giants had

1303
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: lost two games in twenty fourteen. They were owned two

1304
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: when we flew to New Jersey on a Friday, night

1305
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: played them on Sunday. It was the only time we've

1306
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: ever that I can remember. We went on a Friday night,

1307
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: which is great because we got all day in a

1308
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: city on Saturday. It's fantastic. But then Eli comes out.

1309
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: He's their own two in the year. He was two touchdowns,

1310
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: three interceptions, No, he was three interceptions. No, sorry, three touchdowns,

1311
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: four interceptions. So he was stinking it up and then

1312
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: he got up against us and he just sort of

1313
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: found himself in and Beckham didn't play that game. That

1314
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: was Victor Cruz and I don't even remember who else

1315
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: was catching the ball for them at that point. N Yes,

1316
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: Larry Dennelle was at tight talked about it with Whitney

1317
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, Larry Dennelle was playing tight end. Larry

1318
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: made a play on Whitney. He did, and then he

1319
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: fumbled a ball to us at one point, which was

1320
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: great because we needed it. But it just felt like

1321
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: Eli got on track against us, and I feel like

1322
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: in having some fun, I think that I think ratneeds

1323
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: have some fun too, kind of open things up a

1324
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 1: little bit and go, look what if team's been doing

1325
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: to the Texas by even Brady was like, get the

1326
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: ball out. Get the ball out, Get the ball out.

1327
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: Gabbett was get the ball out. I mean it was

1328
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: more like that. Eli is gonna be that way too.

1329
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: If that's had success against us, he's gonna try and

1330
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: do it too. You know that they're gonna do that.

1331
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: So take away some of the short stuff. Do some

1332
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: of the things defensively with your defensive backs and your

1333
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: coverage to take away some of that stuff and make

1334
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: them hold it just just a little bit more. Just

1335
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: hold it that much longer, and you got an opportunity

1336
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: for guys to go eat. But I still worry about

1337
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: him getting on track at some point. I know it's

1338
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: not been great in twenty seventeen. It's just a continuation, no,

1339
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: But I just I just feel like, oh man, he

1340
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: can have that kind of day. Well, there are those

1341
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: in the New York media who think it's over, Yeah,

1342
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: because what you're talking about twenty fourteen, that's already well

1343
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: into his career. And that's four years ago and five

1344
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: seasons ago. So now you're looking at does Eli I

1345
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: still have it? You're right though, he's a wild card guy.

1346
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: Now those who will just say, wow, Blaine Gabbert just

1347
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: beat you. He didn't really beat you. Wasn't him, It

1348
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: was them as a team. And I think Gabbert made

1349
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: two throws. One was a screen and there's one over

1350
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: the middle that went for a big first down to

1351
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: jog a sharp. So he made two big throws in

1352
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: the game. Manning, if he's Manning, is capable of really

1353
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: getting out a hot streak, you know. And did I

1354
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 1: bring up the Jamal Crawford thing with Eli Manning or

1355
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: was that somebody else? Because you and I were talking

1356
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: about that. Were we talking about that in the ear?

1357
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: We were talking about that. We didn't talk about it

1358
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: on the year, We didn't. We did not talk about this.

1359
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: He's not Jamal Crawford. Who is he? Because Crawford in

1360
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: the NBA is he's the kind of guy who can

1361
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: come into a game and like all of a sudden,

1362
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: put up thirty and you're like, wait a minute, where

1363
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: did that come from? But he's capable of it, and

1364
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: he's also capable of a one for ten to forget

1365
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: about it? So who's elive? You? Will you made Jamal

1366
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: Crawford Jay Cutler? Yes, Jay Cutler is Jamal crawfor total

1367
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: streaky quarterback and get on a roll. And then wait

1368
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: a minute, the next time, I don't even want to

1369
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: see this guy, Eli Manning. It's got to be somebody

1370
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: two rings, and he was good in those games. I know,

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01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: I know what I know. Tony Parker. He leads, he

1372
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: kind of leads. He leads the Spurs, but he's not

1373
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: the he's not the key guy. He's not the number

1374
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: one guy in the league. But he's had his moments.

1375
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: He's won some championships, he's got hot in the playoffs.

1376
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: But yet the Spurs revolve around Tim Duncan and also

1377
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, so he's had some guys along with him.

1378
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: He's not really the focal point. He's not really ever

1379
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 1: gonna be the top quarterback in the league. I would

1380
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: say Tony Parker first. Yeah, they've they've won kind of

1381
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: not the SPIKYLI many because he was so good in

1382
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: those Super Bowls, but they had a lot of help,

1383
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: and you always do if you're a quarterback winning a

1384
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: Super Eric Son and Asensio said, he's our digital media

1385
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: of czar. Yeah, he said, Tracy McGrady. But mcgrady's never

1386
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: won anything. Yeah, that's that would be the only one.

1387
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: McGrady would never car He's not Carmelo, No, because Carmelo

1388
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: a college championship, all right, But man Manning's one here.

1389
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 1: You know, you know who, Tracey you know who the

1390
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady of the NFL is Philip Rivers. That's a

1391
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: good one. That's absolutely is. Lots of numbers. Never went

1392
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: although you know, Rivers has been the AFC championship games.

1393
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: I believe too, So that's good for him. But he's

1394
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: a streaky kind of guy as well. Yeah, Eli Manning,

1395
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know it's not an NBA discussion, but

1396
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady was unbelievable as a player. People forget how

1397
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: amazing he was. Eli Manning is Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers

1398
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: is Tracy McGrady. That yeah, And that is quarterbacks put

1399
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: up big being Jay Colors the best though, that's that like,

1400
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: there's no there's no comparison. I mean, Jamal Crawford is yeah,

1401
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: that's no, no question. But Manning. It's funny when we

1402
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: have conversations about the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived, man

1403
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: Eli Manning never comes up, never conversation, and you for

1404
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: good reason really, because most of his career has been

1405
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: except for those two Super Bowl runs, and he was

1406
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: great in the playoffs, which Tony Parker has been. He

1407
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: doesn't make the playoffs. When he takes the playoffs, he's good.

1408
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: He just doesn't make it enough. Now, I know, a

1409
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 1: couple of years ago they went they were ten and

1410
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: six with uh yeah, and then they took a boat

1411
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: trip down to Miami and then, oh gosh, they have

1412
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: been the same since the boat trip. They have not

1413
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: been the same since the boat trip, and hopefully that continues. Wait,

1414
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 1: can we get them down to Chima? Can we get

1415
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: a boat and Chima for the giants and invite them

1416
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: down there? Oh, Sterling Shepherd and Odell Beckham, John Lopez

1417
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: can take us, take take se Juan out there, and yes,

1418
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: get them all out there. Not be in the same

1419
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: since that that boat trip. That boat trip has been

1420
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: the issue. Somehow a boat trip at Chima is not

1421
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: the same as Biscane Bay. But somehow you say, and

1422
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: no one's saying they should take him on a freighter

1423
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: boat trip. Although no, but I'm just saying that it

1424
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: might help the Texans and you're not taking big Oh wait,

1425
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: I can't sit it on the air like the Sopranos took.

1426
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: They took the Big Man out. Oh yeah, yeah, people

1427
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: are gonna misinterpret what you say. It's almost two it's

1428
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: not dated, but it's not well known enough. If you

1429
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: drop that name on the air, No Texans Radio not

1430
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: a good I yeah, I'm not gonna not gonna say

1431
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: that name on the air. Mark appreciate it. Thank you,

1432
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: Thanks Johnny. Coming up next, it's our broadcast partner, Andre

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01:15:15,320 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: Ware right here on Texans All Access. The Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: Waterburger and the Houston Food Bank are teaming up to

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Speaker 1: help them take on their toughest opponent ever, Houston Area Hunger.

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Speaker 1: Just donate a dollar the next time you're in an

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Speaker 1: area Waterburger, and that dollar will go to help the

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Speaker 1: Houston Food Bank feed eight hundred thousand of our community

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Speaker 1: neighbors each year. And you'll even get a coupon for

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Speaker 1: a free Waterburger with a purchase of a thirty two

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Speaker 1: ounce drink and medium fry for every buck that you give.

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Speaker 1: So from now until October eighth, give a buck and

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Speaker 1: be a part of the team that's wiping out hunger

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Speaker 1: in Houston. Welcome back to Texans All Access. Man, it's

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Speaker 1: making me hungry and good for waterburger Man. That's fantastic

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate them and the Houston Food Bank for

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Speaker 1: the teaming up in the synergy that we can create,

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01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: help create for our community members eight hundred thousand people. Men,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Glad to be back with you for

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: our final segment from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm

1451
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, sideline reporter. I'm with these next

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01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: two individuals each and every Sunday or Thursday or Monday,

1453
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: depending on what we're playing, Mark vandermir and of course

1454
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: our good buddy Andre, where Andrea gives his thoughts about

1455
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: what we saw Sunday and what we need to see

1456
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: this upcoming Sunday for that oh and two to turn

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01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: into one and two. Dre, you gotta be looking forward

1458
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: to some home cooking on Sunday. I really am. You

1459
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: know we' it's funny. We've been on the road two

1460
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. It seems like every ball is

1461
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: bouncing the home team's way, and and so on and

1462
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: so forth. So I'm looking forward to getting getting back

1463
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: to the stadium here, our stadium in Houston, and as

1464
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned, getting some some good old home cooking. Last

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: week I asked you about the sean after that performance

1466
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Well, the numbers were a whole lot

1467
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: better against the Titans. I think we saw improvement there.

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01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: I know they didn't get the win, but I think

1469
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: we saw improvement. They just have to finish drive. So

1470
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: what's your take hitting into week three here, I'm still

1471
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: like way he's playing, I like everything about my opinion

1472
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: hadn't swayed one one one iota. I think he's still

1473
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: going to be and is a special player. You know,

1474
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: you make mistakes. He's still a young player. Here's here's

1475
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: what people have to realize. He's essentially eight games into

1476
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: his professional career. He hadn't even completed an entire year yet,

1477
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: So you know you're looking at a rookie quarterback because

1478
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: of the injury last year. And that's what you have

1479
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: to keep in mind when you start to maybe grade

1480
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 1: your paper a little high in terms of being critical

1481
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: of someone. So just be patient. This guy's gonna be everything.

1482
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 1: I think everyone thinks he's going to be. All right,

1483
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: let me flip it over to the other quarterback this week,

1484
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: and that would be one Eli Manning, who obviously has

1485
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: a great deal of accomplishments, including two Super Bowls. But

1486
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: we're getting later in the career here, he's class a

1487
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: class of OZ four with Roethlisberger and Rivers. What are

1488
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: you seeing? What are you thinking about Eli Manning these days?

1489
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: I think he's taking some undue criticism as well. Um,

1490
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, last year, they lose receivers, they lose playmakers,

1491
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: they lose offensive lineman. What do you want the guy

1492
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: to do? And then you know he doesn't have much

1493
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: in front of him this year where he gets the

1494
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 1: time to throw to Throwdelle Beckham, Odell Beckham or separate

1495
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: on the other side, and he's got to check it

1496
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: down fourteen times to say kuon Barkley. I mean, you know,

1497
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: you're only as good as really what's in front of you.

1498
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: You can manage things around you as a quarterback if

1499
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line is good, but when you have a

1500
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: bad offensive line and you're not a very athletic quarterback

1501
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: to begin with, that makes the job a whole lot

1502
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: harder to perform. So you know, I mean Eli Manning

1503
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: is capable of having as good a game as as

1504
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: anyone in the entire NFL on any given Sunday, and

1505
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: that that's that's no difference. My opinion doesn't doesn't sway.

1506
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: If they they provide him protection, there is enough around

1507
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: him where he can certainly carve up a defense. You

1508
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: talked about Barkley for a moment, Barkley in college and

1509
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: what you see from him as a pro or potentially

1510
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: as a pro. He's only two games into his career.

1511
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: What do you think of him as a player, Andre

1512
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: I think he's He's got tremendous ability. He reminds me,

1513
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: And don't you know for a second think I'm comparing.

1514
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm just saying reminds me a little bit a berry

1515
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: in the way he Barry Sanders, the way he's so

1516
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: shifty and built a low center of gravity, the legs

1517
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: are so strong that you're not just the first guy

1518
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: can forget about getting him down. Now with him, they've

1519
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: struggled to run the football a little bit because what's

1520
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: in front of him, and he's only as good in

1521
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: terms of running the football as the five guys that

1522
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: work in front of it. Now they've had to do

1523
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: some things differently to try to get him the ball

1524
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: in space to allow him to go to work, which

1525
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 1: is why he caught fourteen passes last week against the Cowboys,

1526
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: So I think he's a special player. You couple him

1527
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham and and it's it's something to definitely

1528
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: be seen. Everyone wants to rank the receivers all the time,

1529
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: but it's clear to say that Beckham certainly one of

1530
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: the best, and even though he's not off to a

1531
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: blistering start, he certainly has the capability. Like you said earlier, yeah,

1532
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's early, and I expect offenses, especially when

1533
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: they're new pieces to an offense, to struggle out of

1534
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: the gag. Defenses are always ahead of the offense at

1535
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 1: this point in the season. Come back to me about

1536
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 1: mid season, about three quarters of the way through, and

1537
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 1: then talk about Odell Beckham junior stats. You know what

1538
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying in a sense that he'll figure out a

1539
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: way to put it together, and he will. When you

1540
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: look up at the end of the day, he'll be

1541
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards receiving. Once again, that's provided he's

1542
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. But he is certainly, if not

1543
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: the best in the business, certainly one of the best

1544
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,799
Speaker 1: in the business. As we talk about the Giants offense,

1545
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: here andre the Houston defense. When you look at them

1546
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: and I know it's gonna be tough this week. They

1547
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: have to find a way to get pressure on Manning.

1548
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: But what do you think is they head home to

1549
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 1: play the Giants following a good performance yardage wise, basically

1550
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: against Tennessee, but they didn't make the stops they wanted

1551
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: to in the crunch. I think they're gonna see a

1552
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: lot of a good part of the Tennessee game plan

1553
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: that spent maybe early or at some point early in

1554
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: the game in terms of quick passes, and you get

1555
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: dynamic receivers and Sheppard and Beckham that can turn hit

1556
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: screens into you know, sixty seventy yard touchdowns if they

1557
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: make a guy miss. So and the receivers are more

1558
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,839
Speaker 1: dynamic than what you saw last week against the Titans.

1559
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: So I would expect the defense to see a game plan,

1560
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: especially after the protection or the way the protection was

1561
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys last week. Quicker pass is things that

1562
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: that sort. Once you spread the defense out, then they

1563
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: will unleash Barkley on you. In the running game. It'll

1564
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: be a lot of what we saw last week against

1565
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee with better players. I might add Andrea where with

1566
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: us Andre, I was really hoping Jacksonville would take a

1567
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: step back this year. That does not appear to be

1568
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: the case at all after they did what they did

1569
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 1: against New England, and they're probably the best team in

1570
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: the AFC, maybe in the entire league. I don't know

1571
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: about the Rams. I mean, I think the Rams are

1572
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: awesome as well, but it's early. What do you think

1573
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: of the Jags. We used to joke between the two

1574
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: of us about, you know, wanting to see Chad Henney

1575
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: or not wanting to see Chad Henny and keeping Blake

1576
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: Bortles in the game. But you know, now it's kind

1577
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: of be careful what you ask for because the guy

1578
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: has turned into a pretty good players taking care of

1579
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: the ball. He is playing with a tremendous amount of confidence,

1580
01:23:56,240 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: and he's surrounded with a great supporting hat. So when

1581
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: you mix all that and defensively, I think they may

1582
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: be they might be the best defense in the NFL

1583
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 1: right now. When you talk about from top to bottom,

1584
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: all three levels of d line, linebackers, and secondary, it's

1585
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: hard to match up. They've also gotten to the point,

1586
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this the other day, that when they

1587
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: draft it's for depth purposes because they are a complete

1588
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: football team that's just adding on to an already talented roster.

1589
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: And it's a scary thing because they're very young in

1590
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: a of a lot of positions. So it's they're gonna

1591
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: be around for a while, I'm afraid, and we're just

1592
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be something that the Texans are going

1593
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: to have to deal with after looking at what the

1594
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: Titans have on their team roster wise, and I know

1595
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: they performed well against the Texans, no doubt, but when

1596
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 1: they get everybody back, when they get healthier on offense,

1597
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: and then you look at what they have defensively, what

1598
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: do you think of them as a team moving forward here?

1599
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: I know they lost to the Dolphins opening Day, that

1600
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: was a weird game. And here you have all these

1601
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,759
Speaker 1: teams going into Week three again early in the season,

1602
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: But what are your long term thoughts on Tennessee. Yeah,

1603
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: I've always kind of scratched scratched my head when you,

1604
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 1: you know, finally make the playoffs and win a playoff

1605
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 1: game since I think it was OZ three was the

1606
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: last time the Titans have won a playoff game. And

1607
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: then you fire the coach, change the entire staff and

1608
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: and things of that sort, and you got a talented team,

1609
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: you think you would just build on that. Their problem

1610
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: has been his injuries. Injuries to Marcus Mariota and out

1611
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: that Laney Walker's out. The two tackles are both Pro

1612
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: bowlers and and certainly very do their jobs very well.

1613
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: It's it's just tough to get a beat on them

1614
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: and how good they actually can be once everyone's healthy

1615
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: and back in the full But uh, you know, it's

1616
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where they're a young,

1617
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: but talented team, but all of a sudden, here comes

1618
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: another coaching change for Marcus Mariota, a new system in

1619
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: which to learn and try to adjust to. And I've

1620
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: always said, when you continue to do that to a

1621
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 1: young quarterback, it's like being a rookie all over again,

1622
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 1: where you don't have a foundation to come back to

1623
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: year in and year out. Tom Brady's been in the

1624
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: same system essentially every single year he was has been

1625
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The same with a guy like Joe

1626
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: Montana and Terry Bradshaw. It's why they've been successful because

1627
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: they have things they come back to and they build on,

1628
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: rather than a lot of guys who go through coaching

1629
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: changes every single year and I'm afraid that's what it's

1630
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: going to be for Marcus Mariota Trey. What do you

1631
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: have of the college circuit this week? Well, I got

1632
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: the Canes again, believe it or not, and I'm headed

1633
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: to the South Florida to watch him against FIU and

1634
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: Butch Davis's bunch. I've actually been texting back and forth

1635
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: with a former Hurricanes head coach and looking forward to

1636
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: seeing him. Got a chance to work with him and

1637
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: do some shows when he was taking a sabbatical from

1638
01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: from coaching and doing some TV at ESPN. Though we

1639
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: became pretty good friends and so like him a lot,

1640
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: respect him equally as much, and I'm just looking forward

1641
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: to catching up with him and seeing his bunch play.

1642
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: They put up sixty plus points last week in their

1643
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: ball game. It's a tough tour shore this week against

1644
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: Miami being at home, but I'm looking forward to it. Well,

1645
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: you better say hello for me. And Butch was actually

1646
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: really good on television. I thought I thought he was

1647
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 1: pretty good on the two. He is great on television,

1648
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: or was great on television. But you know, his passion

1649
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: has always been to get back in the business and

1650
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: become a head coach. Again, and and I think he

1651
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: just he just knows how to build programs, he knows

1652
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: how to recruit and uh and he's gonna do a

1653
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: fine job at FIU. Great, thanks a lot, good luck

1654
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: this week. We'll see us Sunday, all right, buddy, I'll

1655
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: see it in there is Andre Ware got another Miami

1656
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: game this week. He's got the U back to back weeks.

1657
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: I know the voice of Texans is very endous, very

1658
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: much so. That was his team. He was done with Canes,

1659
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: they won championships. He covered ed reading the boys down there,

1660
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: and they were good. They were really good. I am

1661
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: convinced that Mark VanderMeer was the play by play voice

1662
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: for one of the two greatest college teams I've ever

1663
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: seen that ninety five Nebraska Salty two thousand and four

1664
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 1: and five USC was pretty good. I know. I know

1665
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: people in Texas are freaking out right now, like Texas

1666
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: beat him. No, I get it. At two thousand and

1667
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: four team at USC was really good. Really. In fact,

1668
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: I think the O four team was better than you know,

1669
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: five team. Texas would not have beaten at O four

1670
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: team out O four team was very salty, very good

1671
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: up front. But that's a discussion for a different day.

1672
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: Got a lot of people to thank for tonight's show.

1673
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Jean Schmilt Giants dot Com joined us, of course, DPC,

1674
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: who did behind Enemy Sidelines with him. Russell Baxter at

1675
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Backs Football Guru and go follow him because he's got

1676
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: a great article about teams that get to the playoffs

1677
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: at oh and two. It's a lot more than you think,

1678
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 1: and not just the twenty fifteen Houston Texas Mark Vandermer

1679
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 1: obviously joined us the voice of the Giants, Bob Poppa.

1680
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: He also jumped on the show, as did our friend

1681
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Andre Ware. But thank you guys for being around sticking

1682
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: around for the show. You guys are the best. I

1683
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: cannot thank you enough for all the support you give

1684
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: to us. We're gonna get this turned around on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: get a w We'll talk more about what are the

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Speaker 1: keys to a victory on Friday and dive really deep

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Speaker 1: into the matchup then. But I appreciate you being here,

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Speaker 1: Mark Scotch tomorrow night. Thank you so much again everybody,

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Speaker 1: and as always, go Texans.