1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio a myth and Bullshit, a radio phonic novella. 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Look Radio, hosted by Malamnio. Welcome back to local radio. 3 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: This is and this is Malms. Welcome back UM once 4 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: again for another gup of Brown Girl Hour. Thank you 5 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: for tuning in. This is I can't believe it already. 6 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: It's been It's been so much fun. It has been 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: someone's turkins. Oh my god, what did we miss that? 8 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god? Right now this feels like I never 9 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: had a King Tanana and I'm still bitter about it. 10 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Tonight we cannot do tonight. It's yes, another night. We're 11 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: gonna talk about this later, Okay, to my stone and 12 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: accidental Miles. Wow, Oh my god, I'm a little upset. 13 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: I know, I know we're gonna come back. So if 14 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: you're tuning in for the first time, we are look 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: at that our radio. We are a podcast more than 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: a podcast where we celebrate the brilliant legacies of women 17 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: and fems of color. Way more than a podcast. We're 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: a radiophonic novella exactly. So we um have two very 19 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: very very adorable special guests here today. We're so excited, UM, 20 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and let's go ahead and introduce our guests and get started. Yes, 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: let's do it. So we have two beautiful, brilliant artists, 22 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: ladies from Let's Give, and we're gonna let them introduce themselves. Him. Hey, 23 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm Mandy aka Dandy Mandy. But a lot of people 24 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: know of Dandy Mandy because you have a following. Girl, 25 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: it's impressed. I don't happen, but it happened. So tell 26 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: us of out Let's give, tell us about yourselves. Okay. Um. 27 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: I started Let's Give when I was fifteen, um on 28 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: eighteen now, so it's been it's been a bit of work. 29 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: I was when when we started it, it was kind 30 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: of like I was giving all of my life. And 31 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: I really wanted to create a platform for millennials to 32 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: break out of these stereotypes that have been building up 33 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: against us, saying that we're very self centered and we're selfish. 34 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: And I wanted to give you know, other my peers 35 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: and kids of my um my age and above too, 36 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: to have the opportunities to give back to our community 37 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: and like prove to people that were not selfish. Yeah, 38 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: that's amazing, and y'all have been going strong. You'll you'll 39 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: just had an event and a culture show not too 40 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: long ago that we were actually at, but I thought 41 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the radio where we were doing street interviews there also. UM, 42 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: So that's so amazing that y'all started that. I know 43 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: you have a really strong support system. I know you 44 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: have your mama that's like you're right or die right. 45 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: So we started it together. I kind of had the 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: blueprint and I brought it to my best friend at 47 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: the time and he had the people. So we put 48 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: two and two together and we've been running for about 49 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: a year and a half now and we've we've done 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: a lot. I'm very proud of my team. Yeah, can 51 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: you tell us some of the things that you've done 52 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: in the past maybe a few months here even we 53 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: did a tripical culture that you guys are at. UM. 54 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: We are building the next one that should be coming 55 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: very soon. And then we've um fed in skid row. UM. 56 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: The numbers are escaping my mind right now, but we've 57 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: done skid row runs. We've donated shoes to middle schools 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: and Watts and UM clothes two families of Compton, so 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: we try to help our immediate community. But we've also 60 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: given UM clothes to like warm clothes to the water 61 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: Protectors in North Dakota and we also raised funds to 62 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: give water to Flint, Michigan. And um, soon we'll be 63 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: going to Guatemala. That's amazing, so let's talk about that. 64 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Um So you're going to Watemala soon, so let's tell 65 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: tell us, tell our listeners about it. What inspired it? Well, 66 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: that's because it's gonna be my birthday. And um, I 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: was like talking to them about wanting to go somewhere 68 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: because like, Vegas ain't really like my type of scene. 69 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people like for their twenty 70 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: one I want to hit Vegas and I'm like, na, 71 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: like I want to go somewhere. And my thing, I've 72 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: always wanted to visit every single sight there is with 73 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: like um like indigenous you know, like pyramids, like any 74 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: ruins and stuff like that's my goal. And um, at 75 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: first I was thinking about you. I mentioned Thical and 76 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: then they started talking about like remember where Guatemala, Like 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: we we could go with let's go to Watemala, like 78 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: we'll take you to Thican and I'll just like not 79 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: for real and they're like no, for real, like let's go, 80 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: and I was just like, let's do this. And then 81 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: That's how it all started, and we're like, okay, we're 82 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: gonna make a trip of this, and then we just 83 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: kind of thought, well, like part of Let's Give is 84 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: the global aspect, and we were thinking like, okay, we're 85 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: going to Wala, let's handle the golob the global part. 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: And um, we figured we're gonna do something to raise 87 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: money to give back to the community and Watemala, and 88 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: that thing is Let's Tackle. That's our next upcoming event. 89 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be on June from eleven am to three 90 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: pm in Manhattan Beach and um KD is gonna be 91 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: playing music, We're gonna be selling tackles um lotezcas um 92 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna be doing ticket giveaways right yeah. 93 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: And then yeah, so if y'all want to come through support, 94 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: all the money or okay, fifty is going to Let's 95 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Give um so we could keep doing these events and stuff, 96 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: and then the other is going towards Gatemala. And then 97 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: if for any reason you can't make it, you can 98 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: always donate to our PayPal. So all the infult for 99 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: all that is on the Let's Give Instagram page, which 100 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: is Let's dot give. Okay, amazing. Are you on any 101 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: other social media sites yet or just Instagram? We are 102 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter at let's give crew. Um, we have a 103 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: snapchat let's stot give. Yeah, we have a snapchat Let's 104 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: not give. Our Instagram is let's not give, and on 105 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: Twitter is let's give. That's amazing. Oh my gosh, you 106 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: have accomplished so much in such a short period of time, 107 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Like that's really incredible. Now who all helps to make 108 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the organization actually move? Do you have volunteers? Do you 109 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: have like interns, Like how does the organization the footwork? 110 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: You know, you have a full, full team, like a 111 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: full work task with multiple different divisions. Um, we have 112 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: directors and assistant directors and commissioners of each division. Um. 113 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: My mom is a huge help the whole thing. And 114 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: then mom is here, Mom is here. Yeah, I was 115 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: always here, UM love her. I'm the adopted daughters. Um. 116 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, we have a full blown team. And then 117 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to like days of the events, Um, 118 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: we always open it up to volunteers. Um, um yeah 119 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: yeah we have. I think our team is like over 120 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: thirty people on our team right now, and we we 121 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: are opening positions soon. So well, I'm getting more people, 122 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: and y'all I know that you all aren't specifically, um, 123 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: you're not limited to the South Bay, but right now 124 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: y'all are kind of that's your hub, right yeah yeah, well, 125 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean we run it out of my house in 126 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Hawthorne and then we have people going all the way 127 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 1: from Long Beach to um Inglewood like we have like yeah, 128 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot of it was built out of the nuleas 129 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: of like Torrance and hand and Beach and stuff. But um, 130 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: I recently moved back to the city that I grew 131 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: up in, so then I was able to contact more 132 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: people that I grew up with to come and join. 133 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: So we're spreading out. Yeah, that's amazing. I love it 134 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: big network already. And would you say your team is 135 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: predominantly you are there adults like who's you know, like 136 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: the heart and soul of the organ, it's all youth. 137 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: My mom is the only adult, UM, and she's kind 138 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: of there to just make sure that we are a 139 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: well oiled machine. But we make all the decisions, we 140 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: run the money, we um we take care of everything. 141 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: She's just there to keep an eye on us. Yeah. Yeah, 142 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's really incredible. Thank you. I think 143 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: the youngest member is fourteen, and our oldest member is man. 144 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh so like our oldest Yeah, that's wonderful, 145 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: youth run for you, that's really beautiful. Oprah needs to 146 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: hear about it. We need to write some letters, like 147 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: everyone needs to hear. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And do you 148 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: see yourselves like continuing with this project as you get older, 149 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: you go to college, you whatever ventures you end up 150 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, um, seeking out. Do you see this being 151 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: like a long term part of your lives. Let's give Yeah, 152 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: I actually, um, I actually will not deferred, but I 153 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: chose to stay here to go to a community college 154 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: so that I can continue running instead of going to 155 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: my dream college in Chicago. In college, well, it will 156 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: always be there forever. That's why I'd rather. I'd rather 157 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: stay here in l A and build up, you know, 158 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: in my home, and build this up. There's a lot 159 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: of movement happening in l A. And I went to 160 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara and I wasn't ready, you know, to leave 161 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I'm thankful that I got that 162 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: out of the way, but you know, there's a lot 163 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: of movement happening here in l A. And I'm glad 164 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: that y'all are a part of it. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, 165 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: that's incredible. I mean, I'm so excited to see how 166 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: this grows and what you all get into. Because even 167 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: the event that we went to at the high school 168 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: which I cannot pronounce the name of this high school, 169 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: high school finger, it was so fun. We had such 170 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: a great time. There were so many youths it was 171 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: it blew my mind, like it was so very fashionable. 172 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: I was telling them like in the crowd, like I 173 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: almost wanted to cry because I grew up like the 174 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: school that I went to, they were very like white dominated, 175 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: So being in a crowd and like looking at into 176 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: the conscious like full of like poc like it was 177 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the most beautiful thing because I never experienced that in 178 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: school and like you know, it was a high school 179 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: auditorium and it just like the crowd and the vibe 180 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: was like there was so much soul in every person there, 181 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: and it hit me more close to home, especially because 182 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: that was the high school I was supposed to go 183 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: to UM and then I my mom made me move 184 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: because at the time when I was getting into high school, 185 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't the best yet now it is UM, but 186 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: even like my parents went there and they're known for 187 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: like race riots and stuff, and we were able to 188 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: come in unite at that school especially, so that had 189 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: like so much symbolism to me, like black and brown 190 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: unity through our at this notorious school. So that was 191 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: really touching for me. Amazing, I love it, inspiring. Thank you, 192 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Thank you, or castera belly rostra and and and and 193 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 194 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and send belly rong 195 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: and and and spend it belly rong and and and 196 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: belly wrong and and and um from from from from 197 00:11:50,480 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: from from from of it and ship mum, hello, welcome back. 198 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: We are back. So the lovely ladies of Let's Give 199 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: they had to they had to run because they're busy, Yes, 200 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: they're busy making moves, yes, making lots of moves. Were 201 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: so impressed by them. They're so cute, they're amazing. Um 202 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: and there Alma, Yeah, that was her. Alma, super dope. 203 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: She's amazing, like Mama, an amazing human being. So we're 204 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: really lucky that we got to meet her and connect 205 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: with her, and they brought us a gift. They did 206 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: bring us a gift. Well we will open that later, 207 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: yes we will. So thank you to La Morea, Alma 208 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: and Mandy of Let's give for being here today. Um So, 209 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: we have some pretty heavy content for the day, right, 210 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: which is why our first little segment was short and 211 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: sweet to kind of you know, be able to get 212 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: into this. Um so, but I think before we do that, 213 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: do we want to do shout birthday shoutouts or we 214 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: want to wait till the end? You can do that. Yeah, okay, 215 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: So not too long ago, it was Mariza's birthday Mommy Collected, 216 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: the Mommy Collective. So happy birthday girl. We got to 217 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,599 Speaker 1: celebrate at a at a brewery and we had a 218 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of fun and all of that. So happy belated birthday, 219 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: um and also congratulating congratulations to Gatto, also of the 220 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: Mommy Collective, of the Mommy Collective, for graduating yesterday from 221 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: u c l A. She received her master's. Yes, advanced degree, bitch, 222 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: advanced degree. Yeah, she's out there getting that degree. So 223 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: we're so proud of her, so happy for her, and 224 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: we're going to celebrate her later. We are so excited. 225 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: And it's yesterday's birthday. Yes, her birthday is next Friday. 226 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: The um you know her poet Phenom, also of the 227 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: Mommy Collector, also of the Mommy Collective. We have a 228 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: deep roster and we're actually celebrating her birthday tonight. It's 229 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: Saturday seventeen, I think, so yeah, whatever the I don't 230 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: know what today is, so we're going to be celebrating later. 231 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: So we just want to give quick shout outs to 232 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: our home girls that help us with the podcast, support us, 233 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: down for us, We're down for them. We love them, 234 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 1: so home to them. Yeah, I love sisterhood. It's like 235 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: what would we be board ye, sad and stressed out, hydrated, 236 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: behind everything, everything, all the things I don't want to 237 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: be right um. Yeah, so love to them. I love 238 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: to all of them. So. Um, it's been a rough 239 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. It's been a rough huff, real rough. 240 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: It got real immediately as soon as right away January 241 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: immediately got real, and most recently this week, what's been 242 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: going on is, um, you know, just continuing oppression, continuing 243 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: anti blackness, supremacy, once premacy, the rape culture. Um, it 244 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: never sleeps, it never stops. Um. We just have to 245 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of try and catch our breath in between you know, 246 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: crisis and in between each catastrophe and try and keep 247 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: it going. So this week, um, uh they wrapped up 248 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: the trial for an officer in Minnesota police officer and 249 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: I think his name was Officer Janice and UH, last year, 250 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: if you all will remember, UM, via Facebook live, a 251 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: video surface of Officer yanniz Um shooting and killing a 252 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: African American man, a black man named Philando Castile. His 253 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: girlfriend was in the past, was in was in the 254 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: car with him, and so was there UM small daughter, 255 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I think she was like four years old when Officer 256 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: Jannis pulled them over, UM and ended up shooting and 257 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: killing Philando Casti and Philando Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Phillips, recorded 258 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: the entire thing, the attack, the entire attack, the murder. 259 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: She recorded the murder on Facebook live. And UM, I'm 260 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: pretty sure most people ended up seeing it. So what 261 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: ended up happening Now about a year later this week, um, 262 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: they wrapped up the trial of officer Jannas and he 263 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: was acquitted of all charges, so they found him not guilty. UM. 264 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: Philando Castile's mother spoke UM in Minnesota about you know 265 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: the fact that that state and the city that they 266 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: were in, that they were responsible for the murder of 267 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: her son of Filando UM. And so the question is, right, 268 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: how are there all these homicides of black people, but 269 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: there's never anyone found guilty. There's nobody, there's yeah, there's 270 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: no one health accountable, nobody found guilty, nobody is responsible. 271 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of conversation, you know, on Twitter, 272 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: of course, um, on the internet, on Instagram about continuing 273 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: functions of white supremacy and anti blackness. And today we 274 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: thought it important to always to talk about these issues. 275 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Of course, to always talk about anti blackness, but more 276 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: pertinent right now is the fact that the officer who 277 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: killed Philandro Castile was a non black Latino man police officer. 278 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: And so you know, of course there are calls for 279 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: us to call our community in color community out as 280 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: Latinos in general, and especially Latinos who are not black, 281 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: who do not present a black who do not live 282 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: as black people, and bear that brunt of white supremacy, UM, 283 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: because it was somebody from our community right who committed 284 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: this act. So that's what we wanted to to bring 285 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: it up and talk about it today because we want 286 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: our listenership to engage in this conversation about Latino dad 287 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: and anti blackness that's so prevalent in our communities. And 288 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: we know that in Latin America there are a lot 289 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: of Afro Latinos and it's also denied constantly any type 290 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: of heritage of UM, any type of African descendants in 291 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Latin America has always denied. Yes. So I actually wanted 292 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: to bring something from the ground. Batons. They're a New 293 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: York based UM collective for UM Queer Men right, Queer Chicanos, 294 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: Latinos Latin exus UM, and they shared this really great 295 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: post about anti blats in the Latino Latino community. So 296 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to read it. UM. The author is 297 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: named Miga and he is a Native detroitter and Chica 298 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: no queer mental and sexual health advocates. So I'm just 299 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and read it. UM. It's on Facebook, 300 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: we can share it on Twitter and all that. I've 301 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: seen it on Twitter, Critic and Cheese and also shared it. 302 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: So can we talk about how the killer cop hit 303 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: Onimo Yane is Mexican American, will not white. This terrible 304 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: example of pathological anti blackness demonstrates to us that white 305 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: supremacy can use non black people of color to uphold 306 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: its systems of oppression. I know for certain that my 307 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: fellow Mexicans can personally attest to the abundance of anti 308 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: blackness that exists in our community. Edonimo murdered Philando, and 309 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I've not heard any of my woke Latino X or 310 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: Mexican friends say a peep, he's a monster, right, he's 311 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: also your brother, uncle and cousin. Yeah, this is where 312 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: the ally work matters. Hitonimo, a brown man, was acquitted, 313 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: not because of his innocence, but because the ten white 314 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: jurors were able to identify with his light skin Latin 315 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: X version of anti blackness and established an intersectional kinship 316 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: built on hatred for black people. While not always wielding 317 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: a gun, members of our community routinely express and enact 318 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: anti blackness. This happens through words and actual violence. Philandel's 319 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: case may be extreme, but it is not unusual. As 320 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Latin X folks who often benefit from a hierarchy of racism, 321 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: we must be vigilance and dutiful in confronting anti blackness 322 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: and others and ourselves as allies for black liberation. The 323 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: honest is on us to do coalition work and be 324 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice privilege and relationships in pursuit of the struggle. 325 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: As a queer Chicano, I don't take responsibility for the 326 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: existence of white supremacy, but I certainly admit that I 327 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: can do more to confront anti blackness around me and 328 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: within myself. As Philando girlfriend's diamond stated, he was pulled 329 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: over because, per officer Yiannis, he was a wide nose. 330 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: He was he had a wide nose and looked like 331 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: a suspect. God help America, she continued, Yes, God help America, 332 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: but also let us Latin X folks help each other 333 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: confront and act on the problem. This time the problem 334 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: is ours there, it is English got to clean up 335 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: the mess. This is this is ours too, to dismantled, 336 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: to construct. Absolutely absolutely um. And I mean I think 337 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: that it's really, really, really telling that there are certain 338 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: sorts of you know, there's that saying hit dogs holler, 339 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: there are certain triggers that bring out really that real 340 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: ugliness in our communities. In the Latino community, we see 341 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: it every time there's some type of um like we've 342 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: been noticing. We see a new video maybe from a 343 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: group like me to right, that's featuring queer Latinos, queer 344 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: Latin x Is, and all of the homophobes and the 345 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: transphobes they come. They come. It's sickening, and they show up. 346 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: But specifically we see them showing up in swarms and 347 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: droves when it's queer latinox Is being centered in media 348 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: somehow right and the Latinia and the queerness a connection 349 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: being made between the two right and what they see 350 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: as their media. Right. There's no place for queer folk 351 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: in their media right. It's theirs and normative, heteronormative Latino, 352 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: not Latin X. And they the excuse quote bastardizing and 353 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: already perfect language, the colonizing language. There's so much. That's another, 354 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: so much, but I all of that to say, hit dogs, holler, 355 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: and they come out when there are certain triggers. So 356 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: the queer phobia brings them out. And then when black 357 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: people are killed by police and when we see anti 358 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: blackness systemically, we see, um the consequences of systemic anti blackness. 359 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: I think that Latino communities do a lot, do a 360 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: lot to sort of victim blame black people, to talk 361 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: about black people, um where in whatever context we're talking 362 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: about it. Commune United States US Latin x is doing 363 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: it or in Latin America, in Latin American media right 364 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: shooting on Afro Latinos Andigenous and indigenous folks. So the 365 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: problem is there. There's a constant denial of racism within 366 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: our own communities. But we we see, we see it. 367 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: We see it on the micro, in the macro and 368 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: the micro and the macro. You know, I mean all 369 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: of us were raised with on some level or another, 370 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: with anti blackness being taught to us from our parents. 371 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: How many Latinoxes can say, oh, yeah, my family, my 372 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: mom and my grandma, all the babies, they pinch everyone's 373 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: noses so that your nose doesn't come out? Why, right? 374 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Or the first thing they ask is is stablanco? Exactly? 375 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: Like that's like I would say of non black families 376 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: of Latino families in general, right or growing up you know, 377 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: if you're maybe of a darker complexion and your Latino, 378 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: you're told not to be in the sun, yeah right, 379 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: or put some black some black on, right. That's very 380 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: common to hear. So we grow up with that, right, 381 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: and then it takes us a long time to learn 382 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: or maybe even question, like wait a second, that's not 383 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: there's something deeper there, right exactly. But that's how normalized 384 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: it is. That's how normalized it is. It's very normative, 385 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: very normative anti blackness. Being um a Chicana Mexican American, 386 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me, like because I did a 387 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: lot of like study and research about like Afro Mexican dad, 388 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: especially when I was in college, because it had a 389 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: lot to do with my capstone about how Afro Mexicans 390 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: have been represented in Mexican art and muralism throughout the ages, 391 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: physically showing up images of Afro Mexicans, but on a 392 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: national level of a cultural denial of blackness in Mexico. 393 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: And it's sort of like I saw that that that 394 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: cognitive dissonance, that denial come into play when I would 395 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: talk to my grandma and other older members of my 396 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: family who grew up in Mexico, and I would ask 397 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: them like, oh, like, you know there's black people in Mexico. Yeah, 398 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: there's Afro Mexicans. And everyone would say, oh no, no, no, 399 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: there's none, there's no black Mexicans, there's no we have 400 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: no African heritage, there's no m Afro Mexicanos. But then 401 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: I would I would take it a step further and 402 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: get specific, and I would say, well, aren't there a 403 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of like Afro Mexican communities like on the coast 404 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: and in Vera Cruz. And then they would go, oh, well, yeah, 405 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're yet so they know, but they deny automatically. 406 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: The first inclination is to deny, I think, which is 407 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: so telling that there's so much erasure that happens, and 408 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: it's so like psychological a lot of it, you know, 409 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: the immediate need two distance one's entire community and culture 410 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: from blackness and for what right, Yeah, yeah, and yeah, 411 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: that makes me think about because while I was studying 412 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: in Biddu, it was very similar. I was studying a 413 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: lot about Afro Petuanos and how folks from you know, 414 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: the continent of Africa were enslaved and through with one 415 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: of the countries that they were taken to, they were 416 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: kidnapped to every Latin American country, practically every Latin country. 417 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: And um, so there's like small like pueblos border the 418 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: sea on the outskirts of Lima Um that we're built 419 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: by folks that were enslaved there and like once they 420 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: were quote like freed right, Um, they created these little 421 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: homes outside of Lima, you know, so not even and 422 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: very just like makeshift type of home type of communities 423 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: which we can see a lot, a lot of um Yet, 424 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, Petuanos and I speak from my from my 425 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: family don't want to talk about they're being Afro Latinos 426 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: as in our family, you know. So it's just like 427 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: you said, a very cognitive dissidence erasure, like we forget forget, 428 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: and let's be clear, like although I'm going to say 429 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: that basically all Latinos, especially non black Latinos, grow up 430 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: with an under some level of awareness of anti blackness 431 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: because it's in the language that our parents use and 432 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: that our grandparents used, and it's in like their teachings. Unfortunately, 433 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, there's this sort of well 434 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: juxtaposition that's being done right, and that's why the anti 435 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: blackness is so persistent, because they need another to juxtapose 436 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: us against right in the midst of white supremacy and 437 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: colonization and all these things. So we all have this 438 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: in our ear, but I didn't. I didn't like, wasn't 439 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: really awakened to it or put words to it until 440 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: I really started being exposed to the work of about Domnicana, right, 441 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: I think a lot of Latinos of our generation Latino 442 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: x Is have core on the internet who are online, 443 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: have only learned about after Latini, that about blackness in 444 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: Latin America and about racial hierarchies and anti blackness amongst 445 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: non black Latinos because of the Internet and because of 446 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: after Latinos Likenicana doing the work and teaching us about. Absolutely, 447 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned her because absolutely that is where 448 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: I have learned a lot about the racial hierarchies because 449 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: of Dominican. And she she talks about this a lot. 450 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: How as an Alfro Latina, her history isn't anywhere right, 451 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: so people want to come at her like, oh, well 452 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: you should know your history or stuff like that. Like 453 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: they'll come at her and talk talking about that, and 454 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: she's like, well, where am I going to find? My 455 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: history has never been written, right, And that's so that's 456 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: where we're exactly, So that's where we're learning. Like there 457 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: are after Latinos doing amazing work on the internet talking 458 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: about their histories, their experiences being black and Latino. So 459 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: it's important to have the conversation about after Latina. That 460 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: always because of the erasure. And also because to remind 461 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: us that as non black Latinos, as non black people 462 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: of color, no matter where we are, whether we're in 463 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the United States more in Latin America, we are still 464 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: responsible for perpetuating and enabling and participating in anti blackness 465 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: because it occurs no matter what country you're in, it 466 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: in the in the Western hemisphere, and then you benefit 467 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: from it as well as a non black person exactly exactly, So, 468 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: not black Latinos, even if you're brown, even if you're 469 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: very very brown, even if you're a dark skin brown person, 470 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: you're still not a black person. You're not being faced 471 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: with anti blackness in the face of white supremacy. It's 472 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: not the same. And we cannot enable like any sort 473 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: of thinking that would like equate the two or minimize, right, 474 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: like what facts does. There's no time for it, you know. 475 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: And so that officer Janis was treated just like any 476 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: other white supremacist white police officer who was treated the 477 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: same as any of them, right because he was not black. 478 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: It didn't matter that he was brown. It was just 479 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: the fact that he wasn't black Is gave him that elevation, 480 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: that step up, gave him license to kill right, Yeah, 481 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, to be clear, like with 482 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: this content, we're putting it out with the hopes that 483 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: our listeners are like at a in a space where 484 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: you can hear it, engage with it and learn and 485 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: do better and seek out other information and other sources 486 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: on this topic, seek out you know, other writers, authors, 487 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: thinkers of the African diaspora and you know, and we've 488 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, Like I remember we talked 489 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: about Nadia Government in our she talks about how the 490 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: work starts at home, right, that this is a perfect 491 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: example of how the type of violence that we need 492 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: to undo, the type of anti blackness that we're raised with, right, 493 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: it needs to start at home if we're going to 494 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: deconstruct it, dismantle it, exactly, and she Nadias afro bertuanaa. 495 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: If y'all haven't tuned into that episode, you should, because 496 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: she's amazing. She'll also be back soon. That was the 497 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: absolutely No, it does start at home because that's where 498 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: we as children, we hear it, we learn it, internalize it, 499 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: and then enact, you know, the same abusive and oppressive 500 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: racist behaviors when we're out and about in the world. 501 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: And then we become adults, and then someone continues and 502 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: it perpetuates, and then we have children and what happens, 503 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: it continues continues. You serve on a jury now for 504 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: an officer who has killed an unarmed black person, right, um, 505 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: and what are you doing and what systems are you perpetuating? 506 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: And what does it say that you know this this man, 507 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: this Latino man, a police officer killed this Philando Castile 508 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: right with his daughter and his partner in the car. 509 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: And there's actual footage of it happening. And this is 510 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: an intersectional feminist issue. Yes, this is because this is 511 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: a public health issue, this is a reproductive rights issue, everything, everything, 512 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: It's it's so important that we talk about it as women, 513 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: as men of color feminist. If it's not a part 514 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: of your discussion, then what are you doing? Exactly? So 515 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: white supremacy and specifically for having the conversation about white 516 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: supremacy being carried out by law enforcement, white supremacy and 517 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: to blackness specifically being carried out by cops visa the 518 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: like the the the killing of black people right with permissions, 519 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: with state permission, um, and basically with social permission. Because 520 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: a jury acquitted this man recently. So there's social permission, 521 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: their state permission for police officers to kill black people. Right. 522 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: Black women are affected in every scenario because black women 523 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: are also shot down by police and it is not 524 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: only black men. Black children get shot by police. Right. Um. 525 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: And when black men and black children are being killed, 526 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: black women are still suffering. Their moms are, their mothers 527 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: are at the press conferences, their kids don't have fathers now, 528 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: their girlfriends don't have their partner to co parent with, right. Um. 529 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: And we see that it's an intersectional feminist issue because 530 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: we see the black women consistently, right showing up to 531 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: doing the work. Trayvon Martin his mother. He's now an 532 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: advocate against you know, police violence and anti blackness. So 533 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: it's an intersectional feminist issue because in any iteration of 534 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: this of this police violence, that black women are affective 535 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: and their children and their partners and their families are affective. 536 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: I think I read that his partner, Diamond, that she 537 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: was like recently arrested for something she had, like some 538 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: type of assault, right, And I'm like thinking about it, 539 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: like this woman is suffering from PTSD most likely absolute, right, 540 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: I would probably be losing my mind, like I have 541 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: no patience for anybody anymore. Someone murders the father of 542 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: my child in front of me, with my child in 543 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: the back, with with with no reason whatsoever, for zero 544 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: reason whatsoever. And that's why I think this is also 545 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: a public health issue because this is literally traumatizing entire 546 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: communities globally and generation and generations. That's that was multiple 547 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: generations in Philandro Castiles far exactly right. So Latinos, latin 548 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: X folks, we not only have to do better, but 549 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: we have to stop, you know, and just like educate ourselves, 550 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: educate each other, open our ears, listen. Even in our 551 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: our our biggest movements has Latino people are around labor 552 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: and immigration. That is where are organizing um Our manpower 553 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: goes immigration and labor, right, because those are the issues 554 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: that tend to affect us the most. And housing. But 555 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: I would say historically, if we talk about like big 556 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: movements and protests and marches and organizing, it's around those 557 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: two issues. And in both issues, we always always always 558 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: are racing everybody who's not us of that intersection as 559 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: well of that intersection as well. So immigration, you don't 560 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: see campaigns for after Latinos, for black immigrants, for African immigrants, 561 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: for African current folks. Right, it's very Mexico centered, not 562 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: even necessarily even broadened to really have cognizance and concern 563 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: for Central American immigrants who are facing deportation. Were very 564 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: narrow in our activism, um. But we're not the only 565 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: ones affected on this issue, but we've made ourselves the 566 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: face of the issue nationally, So in our activism we 567 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: have to do better and not participate in that eratier um. 568 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: In labor, right, there's been a history reratier of Filipinos 569 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: contributing to our labor movement right and the United farm Workers, 570 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: and it was Larry Itlian and Filipinos who laid the 571 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: groundwork and the framework. Um. But we made ourselves the 572 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: face of it, right, So there's a lot we have 573 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: to kind of like shrink a little bit. It's like 574 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: time to like take a seat and listen and then 575 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: talked to your people, you know what I mean, Like 576 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: listen to what Latinos are saying, black books are saying, 577 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: African Americans are saying, especially about anti blackness. You know, 578 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: it's like it's like when when as Latinos are people 579 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: of color, we tell why people that they're being racist, right, 580 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, I'm not. You know, well, actually, 581 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, this is the time that we have to 582 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: listen because we probably are being anti black in some capacity, 583 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: in some way because it's so rooted, you know, So 584 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: this is the time to listen and then do the 585 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: work with your community, right, like true coalition building, because 586 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: here's my thing. If you have a problem with with 587 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: the idea of sharing the mic and sharing the stage 588 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: and sharing space, then you're not that's not that's not radical, 589 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: it's not revolutionary. It's just not. It's not. It's just not. 590 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: And like coalition building is supposed to be uncomfortable because 591 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: you're not changing, you're not growing. Nothing will happen if 592 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: it's comfortable, if it feels good. You know, it should 593 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable because you're unlearned things exactly, undoing, undoing, undoing 594 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: and learning. And we're all like folks, we all have trauma. 595 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: And then that's what makes it really difficult, right, we 596 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: all have trauma. We're all working through ship, we're all 597 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: trying to pay rent, we're all trying to survive. But 598 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: people are being killed. People are black, people are being killed, 599 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: people are being killed, and and like if we can, 600 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: if we think that we're capable of changing labor laws 601 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: and changing immigration laws, and we're capable of impact and change, 602 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: and then let's put that to you. So let's put 603 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: that to work. You know, like you, we cannot, as 604 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: non black people, ever expect anything. Don't expect anything from 605 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: black people. It's what I would say to non black Latinos. 606 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: Don't expect anything from black people. Don't expect them to 607 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: show up for you, don't expect them to do work 608 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: for you, because you're not doing ship in reverse right 609 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: to to lessen even the violence that we enact on 610 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: black community these right or black folks within our own community, 611 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: like our own communities exactly. So it's like, you know, 612 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: show up, do better, and that's that goes for all 613 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: of us. This is not necessarily a lecture. It to 614 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: us like thinking out loud, absolutely, you know, there's all 615 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: the work we have to do. Like my body and 616 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: I talked about this all the time, like within our 617 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: our Peruvian family, like what the funk like some of 618 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: the stuff that we hear and we're like we're no, 619 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. And that's the thing too, Like there 620 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: are people that you can share to work with, especially 621 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: in your own family. Yes, absolutely not. I shouldn't all 622 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: be you don't put that emotional labor on yourself. But 623 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: this is the time to um talk about it. This 624 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: is the time to talk about it. This is the 625 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: time to talk about it um once again. Yes, thank 626 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: you for tuning into Another Capital Radio, tuning into Bronco. 627 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: Our our accidental king say, our accidental Kings said that. 628 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: I still can't believe we didn't even put two and 629 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: two again to take ourselves out to dinner and get 630 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: all cute. I like, let's do that next week, Okay 631 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: when I get back. Yes, when you gets going on 632 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: another wonderful vacation that she deserves. Oh yes, yes, thank you. 633 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to Miami because shout out to my lovely, dear, 634 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: beautiful friend Lorianne Lorianne Stacy, who I love so much. 635 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: We went to college together and she's fabulous. It's her birthday. 636 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: So we're going to Miami. We're going to be in 637 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: South Beach. Is going to be very cute, extremely cute. 638 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see all the bikini thongs. Girl Summer 639 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: is my season, and I ordered a bunch of bathing 640 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: suits and like, I'm just my ass is going to 641 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: be out the whole summer, should the entire summer? I 642 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: cannot wait? Good, Um, yeah, it's warm in eline now. 643 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: I was waiting for it to get this form because 644 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: the minimal clothing is what I'd like to wear. Ideal, ideal. 645 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: I hate wearing jeans, They're uncomfortable, right, don't make me 646 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: wear a don't don't you do it? Don't. I don't 647 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: mind like a nice folk for you know, in the winter. 648 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: But when it's summer, I wanted to be hot and 649 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: I want to wear minimal clothing. And it's nice and 650 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: hot today. And my thing is like I look best 651 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: when I'm naked, so I like to emulate that visa 652 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: via my clothing if possible. I agree with you. I 653 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: find the same way. Sometimes I feel like clothes don't 654 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: just don't do me justice, I know, right, like cramping 655 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: my style, getting my way. The chasing is anyways too much, anyways, 656 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: the thing is too much. So yeah, thank you for tuning, 657 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: for tuning in. And we love you, We love you. 658 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. We have new projects coming soon. 659 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: We have new projects coming soon. Um. Some dates are 660 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: TVD so we will share in the future. Make sure 661 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: you're checking our Instagram, make sure you're checking our Twitter, 662 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: because there's something really exciting coming. Um it's like a 663 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: present for everyone and ourselves. We're really excited. So love you, 664 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: miss you, really want to GISs you. Betos