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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson and this
Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned before, CBS Sports dot Com put out a
Speaker 1: an article on the all time Super Bowl Team. It
Speaker 1: was done by Brian Deardo. I know Brian a little bit.
Speaker 1: He done some some Steelers stuff. Um, and uh, well,
Speaker 1: let's dig into this because they picked. Uh he's picking
Speaker 1: the best players at every position who have appeared in
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. And he isn't how good you were
Speaker 1: in that game? Like, what's his face? The Cowboys defensive
Speaker 1: back they had a couple interceptions and never did against
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Brown or whatever his name is, he's as
Speaker 1: he says. The roster includes from the following criteria super
Speaker 1: Bowl MVPs. Multiple Super Bowl appearances is an advantage. Did
Speaker 1: their performance significantly contribute to the success of their team?
Speaker 1: And was their performance critical to the outcome of the game?
Speaker 1: Was that kind of the same. Choosing performance over a
Speaker 1: specific player also played a role in building the roster.
Speaker 1: So interesting the quarterbacks, we'll get the receivers in a minute.
Speaker 1: But I wonder, like if Julian Edelman on there, Like,
Speaker 1: is he one of the best wide receivers ever played
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? No, but he did great postseason stuff,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, so I'm just kind of throwing
Speaker 1: that that name is popped in my head. So quarterbacks
Speaker 1: would be brutal. His quarterbacks are Tom Brady, Joe Montana,
Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw. How do you fight? That's a lot. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's fourteen Super Bowls between them. Percentage just there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know who would be next. Yeah.
Speaker 1: At running back he picked Emmett Smith and Terrell Davis
Speaker 1: pretty good. Franco Well. At fullback he has Franco Harris.
Speaker 1: But okay, I mean it's not you. I mean that's
Speaker 1: the position of Franco Blade. I guess that's fine. Um,
Speaker 1: all right. Any other backacks were Roger Craig or you know,
Speaker 1: m it's a good one. It's hard to argue with
Speaker 1: Emmett Um. The wide receivers, he took six. He took
Speaker 1: a left wide receiver, right wide receiver, and a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: Kind of cheating again. Uh so his left wide receivers
Speaker 1: are Jerry Rice and Cliff Branch. His right wide receivers
Speaker 1: are Michael Irvin and John Stalworth, and his his slot
Speaker 1: receivers are lind Swan and Julian Edelman. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: Edelman was worthy of a top six right having one
Speaker 1: time thinking, you know, it's easy to take him off
Speaker 1: the dynasty's you know, and I guess that's valid. Though, Um,
Speaker 1: is there anyone that went twice and tore it up?
Speaker 1: Like I was thinking about Larry Fitzgerald. I mean, he
Speaker 1: can't be on the list, he only went once and
Speaker 1: he lost. But someone like that that just was awesome
Speaker 1: or t o or you know. But this is kind
Speaker 1: of interesting, though, I mean, but there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of guys off the same teams, I imagine, more
Speaker 1: or less. Yeah. So at left tackle the Pisar Art
Speaker 1: Shell in Orlando, pace pretty good. Pace only go once. No,
Speaker 1: they won one and lost one. They won one and
Speaker 1: lost one. Yeah, okay, okay. At left guard Gane Upshaw
Speaker 1: and Nate Newton, the radar of line was pretty darn good,
Speaker 1: as was the Cowboy line. Yeah. At center, now here's
Speaker 1: where I get a problem. I said, I think Webby's
Speaker 1: got to be the center, right well, Webster is the center.
Speaker 1: Tom naylan Is is the second guy. To me, Dermanti
Speaker 1: Dawson is the best center of time. I think so too.
Speaker 1: I know some people get mad at you around here
Speaker 1: when you say that, but I think he's the best.
Speaker 1: And I know he only went once in the team
Speaker 1: lost mhm, but he was so good. Okay, have a
Speaker 1: tough time leaving him off that list if you do
Speaker 1: it next week. Kelsey has an argument, too right, he's
Speaker 1: a bill of Playton too right, right right at a
Speaker 1: high level, I mean, assuming winning, obviously it would help.
Speaker 1: On Sunday at right guard, right guard, He's takes Larry
Speaker 1: Little and Mark Schlareth. Okay, with Slareth is if Slaith
Speaker 1: doesn't go on to do things in the media that
Speaker 1: we ever talked about him as a great player. Nope,
Speaker 1: I mean fine player. I'm not giving him a hard time,
Speaker 1: but the fact that he's still in the media I
Speaker 1: think probably helps that it doesn't hurt. Yeah, it right
Speaker 1: tackle worst Gregg and Anthony Munio. So you're taking Anthony Munio,
Speaker 1: who most people will say is the best, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the best right tackle of all time. Except he's
Speaker 1: a left tackle. Except he's a left tackle. Right, you're
Speaker 1: putting him at right tackle just to put him on
Speaker 1: the team. And then they played one game, right, did
Speaker 1: he play him one or two? The Bengals made it
Speaker 1: twice in the in the eighties, but they didn't win
Speaker 1: either one. So you take him, but you don't take
Speaker 1: the best center of all time. Yeah, that's a little sketchy. Um.
Speaker 1: It was kind of cool to see for us on there, though, Like,
Speaker 1: I bet there's some Packer fans not probably listening to us,
Speaker 1: that are saying, you're pretty good. You know what about
Speaker 1: Bart Starr? What about you know what I mean? There's
Speaker 1: you know, a tight end, Rob Gronkowski and j Novachick.
Speaker 1: What's solid? Okay, I guess I can't fight you too
Speaker 1: much on that. How about Kelsey? Kelsey seemed like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's so's if we do this next week, I'm putting
Speaker 1: Kelsey in over over check right. Moving over to the
Speaker 1: defense defensive ends, Reggie White, Richard Dent, Bruce Smith, and
Speaker 1: ELC Greenwood. Pretty good list. Yeah, Charles Hailey, dude, his
Speaker 1: five rings, I mean, two different teams. But not about
Speaker 1: Charles Haley. He's pretty good. Yeah, and he's in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and he's five rings um at defensive
Speaker 1: tackle picked five and then he also picked a nose tackle,
Speaker 1: which I don't know why he did. He pick five
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, but that's neither hit nor there. So defensive
Speaker 1: tackles are Joe Green, Aaron Donald, Alan Page, Randy White,
Speaker 1: and Manny Fernandez. Mhm, Manny for Nandez. But he was
Speaker 1: on the Richard Seymour. I would say, will Fork if
Speaker 1: I'm taking a well, he took it. He took a nose,
Speaker 1: he took Reggie kin Law. Who's Reggie Kinla? I know
Speaker 1: I know that name, but what team was he on? Angle? Uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta look it up to see who exactly Reggie Who?
Speaker 1: Reggie kind Law made it to the Super Bowl with? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember anything about his career. He made it
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, Okay, but he wouldn't have got my vote.
Speaker 1: Reggie Kinla not not making my list either, like seymore
Speaker 1: and vote work on there though. Yeah, I gotta now
Speaker 1: I gonna find this. Yeah, I mean, how about one
Speaker 1: of those patriots again? You know, um, I'm braiding a
Speaker 1: bunch of slappias right. Uh. The Alan Page call though,
Speaker 1: because you mentioned Bruce Smith, and I wanted to say
Speaker 1: this too. I mean, those guys went to four for Bowls, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that that kind of means something too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I understand that you didn't win, but you made it
Speaker 1: there four times. Um, and outside I guess Donald or Donald.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Donald only went once, but not because I
Speaker 1: had a bet on him to win the m v P,
Speaker 1: which I'm never gonna forget. He should win the game,
Speaker 1: and they gave the Cooper cop but Aaron Donald was
Speaker 1: the reason they won the Super Bowl. Yeah. Um, an
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, Lawrence Taylor. He put Charles Haleyott outside linebacker. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine, we'll do that. Jack Jack Hammond von Miller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty strong. Hard to argue that an inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert, Ray Lewis. I would say that about Lewis
Speaker 1: is on there, Mike Singletary and Derrick Brooks. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of them are only one appearances Lambert side, but
Speaker 1: they were all high profile studs. Again, I think the
Speaker 1: Packers fans are looking at this and going, what the hell? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so too. How about how about that guy
Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of fame right right right, Um,
Speaker 1: Naron Rod, I mean the Rogers led teams, the far
Speaker 1: Bled teams. You know, there's not many Packers on this list,
Speaker 1: and they've quite a few appears. Yeah right, Um at
Speaker 1: cornerback he got Mel Blunt in her battery, Lester Hayes
Speaker 1: and Dion Sanders. Sounds pretty strong, Mr Hayes. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: say I think he wont once. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. I mean I could make an argument for
Speaker 1: a lot of different guys, including Tay Law or you
Speaker 1: know La Rivus or you know, maybe the Rievous and
Speaker 1: go um m hmm. Ever, how about like this cow
Speaker 1: Boy teams or Niner teams. I can't put Lester Hayes
Speaker 1: on there, but makes sense, Blunt makes sense. I'm cool
Speaker 1: with that. Maybe an old raider guy and free safety
Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott and Willie would Yeah, a lot hast the
Speaker 1: easiest one, and then it's strong safety, which again, this
Speaker 1: is you're cheating here, Ed Read and Donnie Shell. You're
Speaker 1: putting left tackles at right tackle and all that kind of,
Speaker 1: and you're taking free safeties and making them strong safeties.
Speaker 1: And all right, if I even put the free or
Speaker 1: strong in front of it. No one's gonna care I
Speaker 1: for you safe safety right or right wide receiver? Left
Speaker 1: wide receiver? Click? Get that either? Who are the safeties
Speaker 1: getting a lot? I'm sorry, so you had a lot?
Speaker 1: And Willie would ed read and Donnie Shell. I can't
Speaker 1: fight you too much on that, I guess. Yes, then
Speaker 1: you kickers and potters. I don't believe that he did.
Speaker 1: I don't you know what they did? Yeah, long snapper
Speaker 1: Mike Webster again cheating right, Adam Nit Adam Vintieri is
Speaker 1: the place kicker, because why wouldn't he be? And Putter
Speaker 1: Ray guy, kick returner Desmond Howard, Dion Sanders, punt returner
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, and Lynn Swann. But Devin Hester. Yeah, off
Speaker 1: to the house against the Peyton manning team. He also
Speaker 1: in this exercise. And he also picked a practice squad
Speaker 1: for this team. Okay, we went deep here, so a
Speaker 1: cornerback he got, Richard Sherman running back, Larry Zonka white receiver,
Speaker 1: Paul Warfield, offensive tackle, Winston Hill defensive tackle, Warren Sap
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, slash defensive end, Richard Seymour. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: noticed at least linebacker Willie Lanier linebacker Chuck Howley, linebacker
Speaker 1: Nick Buonnacotti, and free safety Jake Scott. Okay, so the
Speaker 1: no name the undefeated Dolphins got a lot of love
Speaker 1: in the practice que but the again, the Packers getting
Speaker 1: no love. That's very very little love. I should say.
Speaker 1: Not a ton of cowboys. Not a ton of cowboys either.
Speaker 1: They they made quite a few Super Bowls. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, Raiders might have got a little too much love.
Speaker 1: Packers got short. But the Steelers well represented on that
Speaker 1: team as they should be. You've been to six, but
Speaker 1: it's mostly either I mean, Niners are rice Lot Hayley's
Speaker 1: half a nine or Montana. But they've gone a lot too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of the some of the dynasties kind of get
Speaker 1: overlooked a little bit. I mean, I wonder we just
Speaker 1: looked at the list of Super Bowl m v p s.
Speaker 1: Is there a name or two on there that belongs
Speaker 1: you know running back that I'm not saying the dude
Speaker 1: from Washington, Davis or whatever that like set the running
Speaker 1: like Marcus Allen. Yeah, a couple of these backs that
Speaker 1: had huge games in the eighties. You know that we're
Speaker 1: Super Bow m v P. Well, it's it's largely like
Speaker 1: the sixties didn't happen. No, there's definitely a somewhat of
Speaker 1: a recency bias, but not really the last ten twenty
Speaker 1: years bias. It seems a lot of seventies eighties era. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would try, I get but you know, I understand
Speaker 1: you're trying to look back and figure. You know this,
Speaker 1: anytime you have a list like this, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough because hate ready, you know, we're fifty fifty four
Speaker 1: years into the into the existence of this um. But
Speaker 1: I think we went played one game. Do we have
Speaker 1: any of the Hogs or you know, any of the
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's a good point. Any of those
Speaker 1: those great Washington Redskins teams, Yeah, not really represented. Lawrence
Speaker 1: Taylor is the only parcel giant I can remember. I mean,
Speaker 1: there has to be more of those kind of guys
Speaker 1: that were there. I mean it looks the you know,
Speaker 1: like Thurman Thomas that went to four, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, or somebody Cornelius Bennett or you guys like that,
Speaker 1: or you know, even a Walter Payton. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he's Walter freaking Peyton, right right right. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you only get at once if you're gonna put Ray
Speaker 1: Lewis on there, not that Lewis shouldn't be on there.
Speaker 1: Isn't Peyton better at what he did than Lewis's or equal?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, right, would be a brutal article. Right though.
Speaker 1: The offensive line to me is where you really could have,
Speaker 1: like Forest greg Is he only on the old school acker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that list is a little short. The definitely the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls one through five didn't get any low. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's like they didn't happen. Uh no, quicker. Let's let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the game itself, matt Um.
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards the Eagles in this game because because
Speaker 1: of their pass rush. Um, I think that's gonna cause
Speaker 1: problems for Kansas City particularly. I know Mahomes is moving
Speaker 1: around better, and it's been now a few weeks since
Speaker 1: he had the high ankle sprain, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that he's he's a pent and I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think that that Chief's offensive line
Speaker 1: is as good as it's sold to be. I think
Speaker 1: their tackles are gonna have a long day. Yeah, Because
Speaker 1: I do believe that the the Eagles are gonna come
Speaker 1: out him in waves so many any other thing is
Speaker 1: you know that if you look at this is a
Speaker 1: classic matchup. The Eagles had the number one past defense
Speaker 1: in the league this season. The Chiefs had the number
Speaker 1: one pass offense, So it's strength on strength. But then
Speaker 1: when you start looking at it, are the Chiefs gonna
Speaker 1: be willing to run the football against Philadelphia because you
Speaker 1: can run the football on them? I think that's a
Speaker 1: big key is for them to stay patient, hit the crossers,
Speaker 1: the quick hitters, to Kelsey screens, run the football, you know,
Speaker 1: don't try to score ten points on every past you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like control the football a little bit.
Speaker 1: The thing that worries me most from a Chief's perspective, though,
Speaker 1: if this game gets out at hand, it might be
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs guys can't stop the run. You know
Speaker 1: that Chris Jones is slamming his helmet on the sidelines
Speaker 1: after getting double team and pushed around, and Hurts and
Speaker 1: their backs are getting six, seven eight yards to carry
Speaker 1: late in the game, and the Eagles O line takes
Speaker 1: this thing over. They don't ask much from Hurts. I mean,
Speaker 1: if it gets out of hand, that's the formula I
Speaker 1: think could happen. Yeah. Um, I don't think that it
Speaker 1: does get out of hand. I don't. I think it'll
Speaker 1: be very close. I think the Eagles have the best
Speaker 1: roster in the NFL. Yep. The Chiefs have the best player. Yep,
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I don't feel super strong about this,
Speaker 1: but I think in this game they might have the
Speaker 1: three best players Kelsey, Jones and Mahomes. Like, if we're
Speaker 1: picking teams, first three picks might be Chiefs, then there's
Speaker 1: probably like ten Eagles, you know what I mean. They
Speaker 1: certainly have the star power. Um. One side note on
Speaker 1: this game that these are like the two worst special
Speaker 1: teams in the league, So if the game is lost,
Speaker 1: it could be on a blocked punt or missfield will.
Speaker 1: I mean, special teams can play more of a fact
Speaker 1: than people realize. I mean their bottom the league and
Speaker 1: both Yeah. Um, And you know, if it comes down
Speaker 1: the kicks, um or something like that, at you know,
Speaker 1: who knows. Um, I'm sure the Chiefs will have something interesting.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid always does. Oh yeah, you know that that
Speaker 1: people will look at that Andy Reid, so that you
Speaker 1: know that I just watching here, I'm I'm watching NFL
Speaker 1: Network here and they just showed again for the eighties
Speaker 1: seven thousandth time. That's silly ring around the rosy thing.
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about that. Here's the thing. It didn't work.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's genius. It didn't work. The play
Speaker 1: didn't They didn't they drew a penalty on it. If
Speaker 1: if they didn't draw the penalty on it, the play
Speaker 1: was read perfectly. The defensive back was in position to
Speaker 1: tackle that for a loss, and he had to be
Speaker 1: tackled off of off of making the tackle, which is
Speaker 1: what the penalty was for a holding penalty. So it's
Speaker 1: cute and funny and all that stuff that it was.
Speaker 1: It didn't work. And this is something that bothers me
Speaker 1: about Andy Reid's coaching. He does that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: down inside to ten a lot. Oh yeah, it's too cute.
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Kelsey have a lot of say in that.
Speaker 1: They draw draw up a lot of these shovel passes
Speaker 1: and ring around the rosy, and he puts the stamp
Speaker 1: of approval on it. I feel mixed about, like doing
Speaker 1: around the rosy does not make you an offensive genius
Speaker 1: to me, or some of these crazy things they do
Speaker 1: down by the red zone. But in a Tomlin manner,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like knowing your team if it keeps
Speaker 1: morale up and we're all enjoying this and we'll become,
Speaker 1: you know, better camaraderie teammates because of it. Cool, you know,
Speaker 1: but not the xs and ohs or what wins it
Speaker 1: for you because you'd ring around Rosie. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: I just worry that, you know, is Andy read gonna
Speaker 1: do something like this again in the Super Bowl to
Speaker 1: try to come up with something hum likes so clever
Speaker 1: that you out think yourself instead of just doing what
Speaker 1: you do best. How about just throwing the ball to
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. That works pretty well. I have the Eagles
Speaker 1: in this game, but I have it one. Um, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be extremely close. It like hurts my
Speaker 1: soul though to bet against my homes right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm going a little bit more low scoring.
Speaker 1: I get Eagles. Um. You know, I just think that
Speaker 1: this this Chiefs team does do something. They possessed a football.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, as do the Eagles. I think you
Speaker 1: could see a bunch of lot I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're going to see a bunch of big plays in
Speaker 1: this game, I think you could see a lot more grinding. Well,
Speaker 1: I do think that's fact Manolo the Chief's defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: who's very aggressive. It's gonna take a lot of chances.
Speaker 1: Like I think his whole goal is going to be
Speaker 1: if I can get five defensive splash plays, and Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts is in great versua blitz yet in his career
Speaker 1: that I think that's their key on defense. So I
Speaker 1: could see some big plays over the top to Smith
Speaker 1: or a J. Brown on those guys. Um, But I
Speaker 1: do think possessing the football is huge, as is getting
Speaker 1: an early lead, especially for the Eagles. You know, Eagles
Speaker 1: in a comebam from behind shootout mode would worry me
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, we talked about that the other day.
Speaker 1: When when you look at Jalen Hurts his career, there
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of those. You know, he just hasn't
Speaker 1: been asked to do that. It's kind of Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: thing too. These guys. They have a very specific way
Speaker 1: that the formula to win with these guys, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you get behind, it's not the best situation for
Speaker 1: the for these uh you know, running quarterbacks, no doubt,
Speaker 1: I mean, he has much better weapons, of course than
Speaker 1: Lamar and obviously, but is he gonna just drop back
Speaker 1: and throw to keep up with my homes? We'll see.
Speaker 1: But the bad shoulder too, and don't even talks about
Speaker 1: it hurts the shoulder. Yeah right, that's not that's not either.
Speaker 1: So it would be an interesting game. I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to watching it. We'll break it down even more next
Speaker 1: Monday when we come back. But we're gonna take another break.
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