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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson and this

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Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned before, CBS Sports dot Com put out a

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Speaker 1: an article on the all time Super Bowl Team. It

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Speaker 1: was done by Brian Deardo. I know Brian a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He done some some Steelers stuff. Um, and uh, well,

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Speaker 1: let's dig into this because they picked. Uh he's picking

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Speaker 1: the best players at every position who have appeared in

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. And he isn't how good you were

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Speaker 1: in that game? Like, what's his face? The Cowboys defensive

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Speaker 1: back they had a couple interceptions and never did against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. Brown or whatever his name is, he's as

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Speaker 1: he says. The roster includes from the following criteria super

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Speaker 1: Bowl MVPs. Multiple Super Bowl appearances is an advantage. Did

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Speaker 1: their performance significantly contribute to the success of their team?

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Speaker 1: And was their performance critical to the outcome of the game?

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Speaker 1: Was that kind of the same. Choosing performance over a

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Speaker 1: specific player also played a role in building the roster.

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Speaker 1: So interesting the quarterbacks, we'll get the receivers in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But I wonder, like if Julian Edelman on there, Like,

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Speaker 1: is he one of the best wide receivers ever played

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? No, but he did great postseason stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, so I'm just kind of throwing

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Speaker 1: that that name is popped in my head. So quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: would be brutal. His quarterbacks are Tom Brady, Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw. How do you fight? That's a lot. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's fourteen Super Bowls between them. Percentage just there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know who would be next. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At running back he picked Emmett Smith and Terrell Davis

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Franco Well. At fullback he has Franco Harris.

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Speaker 1: But okay, I mean it's not you. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: the position of Franco Blade. I guess that's fine. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right. Any other backacks were Roger Craig or you know,

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Speaker 1: m it's a good one. It's hard to argue with

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Speaker 1: Emmett Um. The wide receivers, he took six. He took

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Speaker 1: a left wide receiver, right wide receiver, and a slot receiver.

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Speaker 1: Kind of cheating again. Uh so his left wide receivers

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Speaker 1: are Jerry Rice and Cliff Branch. His right wide receivers

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Speaker 1: are Michael Irvin and John Stalworth, and his his slot

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Speaker 1: receivers are lind Swan and Julian Edelman. Okay, I think

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Speaker 1: Edelman was worthy of a top six right having one

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Speaker 1: time thinking, you know, it's easy to take him off

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Speaker 1: the dynasty's you know, and I guess that's valid. Though, Um,

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Speaker 1: is there anyone that went twice and tore it up?

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Speaker 1: Like I was thinking about Larry Fitzgerald. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: can't be on the list, he only went once and

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Speaker 1: he lost. But someone like that that just was awesome

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Speaker 1: or t o or you know. But this is kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting, though, I mean, but there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys off the same teams, I imagine, more

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Speaker 1: or less. Yeah. So at left tackle the Pisar Art

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Speaker 1: Shell in Orlando, pace pretty good. Pace only go once. No,

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Speaker 1: they won one and lost one. They won one and

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Speaker 1: and Nate Newton, the radar of line was pretty darn good,

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Speaker 1: as was the Cowboy line. Yeah. At center, now here's

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Speaker 1: where I get a problem. I said, I think Webby's

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Speaker 1: got to be the center, right well, Webster is the center.

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Speaker 1: Tom naylan Is is the second guy. To me, Dermanti

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Speaker 1: Dawson is the best center of time. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I know some people get mad at you around here

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Speaker 1: when you say that, but I think he's the best.

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Speaker 1: And I know he only went once in the team

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Speaker 1: tough time leaving him off that list if you do

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Speaker 1: it next week. Kelsey has an argument, too right, he's

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Speaker 1: high level, I mean, assuming winning, obviously it would help.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday at right guard, right guard, He's takes Larry

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Speaker 1: Little and Mark Schlareth. Okay, with Slareth is if Slaith

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Speaker 1: doesn't go on to do things in the media that

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Speaker 1: we ever talked about him as a great player. Nope,

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Speaker 1: I mean fine player. I'm not giving him a hard time,

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Speaker 1: tackle worst Gregg and Anthony Munio. So you're taking Anthony Munio,

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Speaker 1: that are saying, you're pretty good. You know what about

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Speaker 1: Bart Starr? What about you know what I mean? There's

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Speaker 1: much on that. How about Kelsey? Kelsey seemed like, yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: Kelsey in over over check right. Moving over to the

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Speaker 1: defense defensive ends, Reggie White, Richard Dent, Bruce Smith, and

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Speaker 1: ELC Greenwood. Pretty good list. Yeah, Charles Hailey, dude, his

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Speaker 1: five rings, I mean, two different teams. But not about

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Speaker 1: Charles Haley. He's pretty good. Yeah, and he's in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer and he's five rings um at defensive

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Speaker 1: which I don't know why he did. He pick five

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman, but that's neither hit nor there. So defensive

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Speaker 1: tackles are Joe Green, Aaron Donald, Alan Page, Randy White,

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Speaker 1: and Manny Fernandez. Mhm, Manny for Nandez. But he was

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Speaker 1: on the Richard Seymour. I would say, will Fork if

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Speaker 1: Reggie kind Law made it to the Super Bowl with? Um,

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Speaker 1: of those patriots again? You know, um, I'm braiding a

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Speaker 1: bunch of slappias right. Uh. The Alan Page call though,

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker, Lawrence Taylor. He put Charles Haleyott outside linebacker. Okay,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver? Click? Get that either? Who are the safeties

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Speaker 1: getting a lot? I'm sorry, so you had a lot?

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Speaker 1: And Willie would ed read and Donnie Shell. I can't

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Speaker 1: I mean, Raiders might have got a little too much love.

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Speaker 1: it's mostly either I mean, Niners are rice Lot Hayley's

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Speaker 1: half a nine or Montana. But they've gone a lot too. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: some of the some of the dynasties kind of get

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Speaker 1: looked at the list of Super Bowl m v p s.

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Speaker 1: Is there a name or two on there that belongs

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Speaker 1: you know running back that I'm not saying the dude

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Speaker 1: a recency bias, but not really the last ten twenty

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