1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode fifty two of Past from 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: the Paths from the Past, and we have probably one 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: of the most distinguished guests we've ever had. He's here 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: today because he's being inducted into the Patriots. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: It's the one and only Bill Parcells and coach. It's 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: just a treat to see you again. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and it's good to be back here. Yeah, 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: in New England and obviously very humbled by the honor. 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me let me move this a little closer. Right, Yes, 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I have you been back. When's the last time you 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: were here? 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Well, I was here with the Dallas Cowboys playing against right, Okay, yeah, yeah, 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: I've been here just a couple of times to play. 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: But no, I haven't been. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Back because I remember, you know, when the border war 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: ended and you did that phone call with the New 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: England media and you said, yeah, you know, I'd love 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: to come up sometime and just see a game. 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: Still wait, I love, We'd love to have you anytime 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: you want. 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: You know. You know, So I'm in Florida in the 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: winter late season and in the winter, and uh, I'm 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: racing horses in the summer. Most of the time. Yeah, 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: but I do like it here, and I feel good 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: enough to come back and see what's going on. 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: That'd be great. That great. I know that. 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: I know everyone would treat you, you know, like a 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: king if you came back. I can tell you. You know, 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: I know Julian Edelman's going in today, but I. 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: Think Fred and I both believe that this is Bill 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 4: Parcell's dad. 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. And Matt Smith is here too. 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: Matt is our executive. 35 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: You don't you would never remember this, which I wouldn't. 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame you. 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: But wait, back when in ninety five, when you were 38 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: doing the TV show, I was doing the TV show, 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: Mike Lynch. 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: Mike Clinch, Yeah, you remember that. I got it. 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach, you'd wont two super Bowls. 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: You had some health concerns. I think people scratch your heads. 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: Why did you come back? 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: What was it about coming back that you wanted to 45 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: come back and white here? 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Well? 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: I just loved the profession. And you know, it's if 48 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: you see yourself as something, which is what I do 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: and it's all I ever did. And you know, those 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: health concerns completely disappeared, and I said why not? And 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: so I still enjoy it and that's how I want 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: to do and so I did it. 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: But you were picky. 54 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: How did James Orthwine convince you to come to the 55 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: Patriots because you probably had options. 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure I. 57 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: Did have two options. I remember mister Orthwine wasn't the 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: one that really talked me into it. I can't remember 59 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: the name of the fella that came down. I was 60 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: in Florida. They flew down and we talked down there. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: The then general manager was Patrick Forte. Yeah, he came 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: on the plane playing with us. We talked back and forth, 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: got a few things straight and I said, I'll let 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 3: you know tomorrow. And I knew I was going to 65 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: do it, I think, and so we got back to it. 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 67 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: So Mickey Corkran was your high school coach, and I 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: know he was an environmentor to you for a long time. 69 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Did you talk to him before you came here. 70 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he you know, he's a coach at heart. 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: He wants to see his boy coaching, right, so because 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: that gives him something to do on Sunday. So he 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: was all for it. You know, I always liked this area. 74 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: I live very close to here now and it's been 75 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: it's been fun. I've always liked to hear and it's 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: a special place for me. 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: So when the when the when the draft was coming 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: around to coach Parcels, you know, I think the alleged prognosticators, 79 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: it's bled Somyer bleds Omayra. 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: Is that a tough decision for you at the time? 81 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: Not for me. I had a little contention with the 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: personnel director at the time, named Charlie Army. He was 83 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: he felt like Meyer was a safer pick. But I 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: watched every pass that Drew blessed so through on film 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: for two years. I watched every pass he threw, and 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: when I was done with that reel, I was convinced 87 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: that's who I wanted. 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it about that reel that? 89 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: Well, he's a big, strong guy, six' five or, six 90 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: whatever it, is and he had a good. Arm they 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: were playing in a passing offense At Washington, state and 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: he had a lot of experience in the passing, game 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: and you, know you never know when you. Pick you 94 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: don't know to ever know exactly what you're. Getting, yeah 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: BUT i thought there was a good chance to be. 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Successful he did a good. 97 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: Job he sure did the end of the ninety three, 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: Season coach, parcels when you ran off those wins at the, 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: END i think a lot of people here remember The 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: miami game here at the end Of. December he hits 101 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: A temptson down the sideline with that long pass at 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: that point in. TIME i know it doesn't necessarily carry, 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: over but did you were you think of? 104 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: Yourself you know what we might be onto something? Here you? 105 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: KNOW I i was fairly confident in, team even though 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: the record wasn't showing that. YET i KNEW i had 107 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: enough good, players and we were getting them every year 108 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: more and. More SO i felt like if we could 109 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: just keep a good attitude and develop a good toughness 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: and general overall expecting to win kind of, thing that 111 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: we might have a shot and fair. 112 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: Enough one of my crosses to Beer coach is working 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 4: With Scott zolac. TODAY i Love, zoe But zoe tells 114 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: me SO i want to know what's accurate or what's not. 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Accurate, Okay, well first of, all he's a slight. Exaggerator 116 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: this is WHERE i want to find out if he's 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 3: really exaggerating or. Not so the way he tells the story. 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: Is The minnesota game in ninety, four you guys are 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 4: down a, Bunch and he said that he went up 120 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: to you at halftime in the locker room and, said 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: you gotta let the kid call his own, plays AND 122 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: i think he tells it you looked at him and, 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: said you know, what you want to coach the team, 124 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: now and you turn on the hill and walked. 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: Away he then says that after you. 126 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: Meeting you And ray are talking about you know what's 127 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: going on the second, half that you, said all, right, 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: everybody here's the, Deal, drew you're calling your own, plays 129 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: and that you looked At zoe and, said good. Idea 130 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 4: now That's Zoe's in terms of it's pretty. 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: Close here's what. Happened but first of, ALL i had 132 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: a little visual prior to. Halftime we had been in 133 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: a two minute offense for six or seven, minutes SO 134 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: i had seen That minnesota was just playing one stand 135 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: defense against, it AND i didn't know whether they had anything. 136 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: Else so that's really WHY i agreed to do, it 137 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i knew we could hurt that one standard defense 138 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: because we'd already heard it. 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: Before they, have, RIGHT i think they still play that same. 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: Defense BUT. 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: I want to go back to when you got. HERE 142 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: i know you coached here in eighty as a linebackers, 143 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: coach so you were familiar With Foxboro stadium and the. 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Facilities but, really by the time you got here in ninety, 145 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: THREE i, mean it had even. Deteriorated more, like what 146 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: did you think about the facilities? 147 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: HERE i already knew about. It i've been, Here i'd seen, 148 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: IT i passed. IT i that you, know it doesn't 149 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: make any difference what the facilities look like if you 150 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: got good players. 151 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: Sitting in the meetings and that. Shit, yeah so we 152 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: had a. 153 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: Chance, well speaking of good, players WHEN i say the 154 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: phrase circle the, wagon, guys who comes to mind on The? Patriots, 155 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Well Vincent brown. 156 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: Timp? 157 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: It, Yeah Ben, Coates, Yeah turner And gash sure, yeah hold, 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: on hold, On Maurice. Hurst, okay let me think of somebody. 159 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: Else. 160 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: ARMSTRONG i was gonna, say what About bob Cratch, maybe. 161 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: YEAH i brought him here with. ME i know it. 162 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: Did yeah. 163 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: Not armstrong was. Good, no oh, Yeah i'll tell you 164 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: something about. Him in my second year here With Blood, 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: soap we threw over seven hundred. Passes he didn't give 166 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 3: up any. Sex, yeah, none. Zero that's pretty. 167 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: Good some of the battles he had With Bruce Smith 168 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: Buffalo Epic. 169 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: Epic that's. 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah i'll throw a couple of the names towards your, 171 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: coach because those are the guys that when you drafted, 172 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: them those are the guys that were really core players 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 4: for Coach belichick's. Area we're talking about guys Like Teddy, 174 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 4: Bruski willie. 175 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: McGuinness you're talking about my, boys ted Ted, johnson Ty. 176 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 4: LAW i Know Adam, viniti Who fred AND i believe 177 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: should be here with you today going into The Patriots 178 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 4: hall Of. 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: Fame And, fred what's the little? Guy what's a little guy's. 180 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 4: Name that was drafted out of MARSH i know there's 181 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: a really famous wide receiver From. 182 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: MARY i think. 183 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: He's one of the smartest football Players i've ever, Heard 184 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Troy Troy. 185 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: Football now you, well we got him at The. Patriots 186 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: i'm going to tell you a true. Story my Friend Jim, 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: donnan WHO i knew from, years was the head coach At. 188 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: Marshall this is right close to the end of the. 189 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 3: Draft it WAS i never heard of, him so he, 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: said he called. Me he, Said, BILL i got a 191 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: little returner down, here he, said he caught a hundred 192 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: balls for. 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: Us he, said you. 194 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: Might you might need to come down and look at, 195 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: HIM i, Said Bobby greer, DOWN i, Said, BOBBY i 196 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: want to know one. Thing can he be our punt 197 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: returner comes? Back he, SAID i think he. Can't we 198 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: drafted him in the last seven way. 199 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Back, yeah, yeah, yeah, YEAH i mean now he was 200 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: back and forth. 201 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: Though, YEAH i, KNOW i know he was back and, 202 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: forth but he finally developed his own niche and became 203 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: a slot third receiver and, yeah, YEAH i loved. 204 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: It, Now LIKE i, said he had such a high FOOTBALL. 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: IQ i know he's. Good. 206 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 207 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah you were still in it at the, time so 208 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: you're dealing with your own team and everything like. That 209 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: were you able at the time to like take a 210 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: little look back and, go, wow look at What Troy 211 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: brown developed. Into look at What Teddy bruski. 212 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: Did you couldn't miss. Him he was all over the, 213 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: highlights all over the film ON, tv all the game film, 214 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: up still in. It i'm Watching source Of pride for, you. 215 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: Coach oh, yeah, yeah all of. Them and, McGinnis are 216 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: you kidding? ME i love McGinnis and there's just so 217 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: Many Curtis Curtis. 218 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: MARTIN i want to talk about him in the, second 219 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: BUT i remember that first TIME i met, you you 220 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: told me coaching is, teaching. Yep And i'll never forget that. 221 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: TIME i was At Bryant college and it was after. 222 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: Practice Ty law had just been, drafted and you were 223 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: working with him on the sideline because you noticed that 224 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: he was when he was one on one, deep he 225 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: was going up with this hand instead of the other, 226 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: hand and you showed him how if you go up 227 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: with the other, hand you gain at least a foot, 228 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Wise AND i remember, that And i'm, like, yeah coaching is. 229 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: Teaching is, teaching. 230 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 3: YEP i liked him. 231 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: Too oh, yeah take a busload all Those and With 232 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: bruski when he got, here he was a pass, rusher 233 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: but you had to teach. 234 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: Him you got to because we're going to make you 235 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: more of a. 236 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: Linebacker, well when we drafted, him we didn't know what 237 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: we were going to do with, them but we knew 238 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 3: he could at least play special teams for, sure and 239 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: so we started with that, premise and then we worked 240 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: them into The nickels, defense and pretty soon he's playing 241 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: regular in the Nickel. Yeah now he's on, Television, LIKE 242 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: i KNOW i helped get him that. 243 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Job he's a big, shot, Right oh? 244 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah uh in ninety, Six, bill was there a time 245 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 4: or a game in ninety six where you thought to, yourself. 246 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna be. 247 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: OKAY i think we might be. Okay here we got something. 248 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: HERE i think we got a team that can. Contend 249 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: if you remember a moment or a game that said 250 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 4: that to you or was it a progression through the. 251 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: Year you, know that's a tough. QUESTION i can you, 252 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: KNOW i coast a lot of. GAMES i can't always 253 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: measure more sure together and think. Back but you, Know 254 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: buffalo had been in their heyday and we were starting 255 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: to get back control of, them AND i knew they 256 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: were a Super bowl. Contender SO i felt like once 257 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: we started having some success against, them that we won't 258 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: have a. Chance. NOW i want to tell you a 259 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: story On venetari. Too, okay we signed him for five hundred. 260 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: DOLLARS i always tease him about, that and you, KNOW i, 261 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: said how's? That how's that decision to send him with 262 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: The patriots working? OUT i just talked to him the other. 263 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: Day he's just. Called SO i think he tells the 264 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: story of like he's. 265 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: Nervous matt's, here, right your, guy he's the, incumbent and 266 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: he's so he's sitting, there what are my chances of? 267 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: Everything like? 268 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: That and he says that you told him one one preseason, 269 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: game you're Doing you're kicking this. 270 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: Game let's see how it. Cos and he made. 271 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: The, kicks had a good preseason, game and whenever it 272 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 4: was you made the, Decision, hey by the, way you're 273 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: gonna be our. 274 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: Kicker and he. 275 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 4: Was still is he, serious, like, Like i'm going to 276 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: be the kicker of this? Team and he was he 277 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: couldn't really believe. 278 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: It, well the reason he couldn't believe. It one of 279 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: the hardest things to do as a coach is to 280 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: give up a player who has been, productive clutch everything 281 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: you've ever, wanted but now he's just too old and 282 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: he can't do what he used to. Do and that 283 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: Was Matt. BARR i mean he kicked us into the 284 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: Super bowl with one, kid. Yep AND i Loved. MATT 285 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: i MEAN i, did And matt got, it he knew 286 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: AND i just, Said matt got to do we gotta try. 287 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 3: THIS i, said it doesn't, Work i'll bring you. Back. 288 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah that was. 289 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: It, yeah is that the hardest part of the. 290 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 4: Business coach parcels when you've got a guy like you just, 291 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: said this guy got you into the Super. 292 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: Bowl but you, know they're your. Guys you live in 293 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: them every day for eight, hours for half the, year 294 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: for ten. Years it's more than just coach. Player it's you, 295 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 3: know you know everything about. Him you know all the, issues, problem, family, 296 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: kids this, everything and you, know so it's hard to 297 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: give up on. Them and especially if you know they're still, 298 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: needy you, know if they still need the, money if 299 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: something's happened that they you, know they're not smart with 300 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: their investments and things like. That you it's. HARD i, 301 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: think you know, what you gotta be cold. Blooded the 302 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: training is rolling and you were on it or you're. 303 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: Off we were talking with Coach rabel this, week you, 304 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: know just he was wanted to talk about what great 305 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: what it was great that you're going in and That 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: julian's going. In and he said that you talked to 307 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: him in twenty. Eighteen he, said you took the time 308 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: to speak with him and he was just starting out At, 309 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: tennessee and he said he gave you some unbelievable advice 310 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 4: And the way he told it to me was. Unbelievable he, 311 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: said take these guys out to lunch if you. Can 312 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: if you've got a problem with the, guy get to 313 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: know him a little. Bit it's not just enough to 314 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: bring him into your office and do. Things you got 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 4: to get to know what makes these people. Tick and 316 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: he was, saying that's. IT i, said he'll never ever forget. 317 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: You that's very it's very nice of you to be 318 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: able to share like that with somebody in the. 319 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: Business, well you, KNOW i felt an. Obligation you're a. 320 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: COACH i had coaches help me WHEN i was, young 321 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: AND i made up my mind WHENEVER i had that 322 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: opportunity THAT i would follow. Through AND i have. 323 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely you, know going back To, VINITARI i remember in, 324 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: practice you, know giving him the business when he was 325 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: trying to kick make, it you, know casting a shadow 326 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: over the ball or squirting it with water something like 327 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: that distract. Him oh, Yeah so what was that point 328 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: where you, said you know that not only where is 329 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: he going to be our, kicker but he could be 330 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: one of the. 331 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: Best, well. 332 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: You, know the first game we played was In buffalo 333 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: and it Was. September single Digits, september AND i remember 334 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: it was like sleeping up there In, september and so 335 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: the weather conditions were very bad and he missed a 336 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 3: couple of kicks in the. 337 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: Game, yeah so. 338 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: You, know everybody's looking at me, sideways including my own, coaching, 339 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: RIGHT i, say, hey you, know settle. Down we let him. 340 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: Kick the second, game HE i think he was one for. 341 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: Two you, know he missed another, one so it was getting. 342 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: Close the third game we had an over an overtime Game. 343 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: Jacksonville that's, it you got a good vite and we 344 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: had to kick to win the. Game AND i remember 345 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: thinking to, MYSELF i hope you make it sound because 346 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: if you, don't you're going to be on the. Bus 347 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: and he knew. THAT i, think, NO i think he 348 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: did tell him. That but, right, well not for long 349 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: is WHAT nfl stands. 350 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: For AND i think he certainly felt the heat after 351 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: The buffalo, game, like oh, no that's, right is this 352 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: what's going to? Happen and That jacksonville kick propelled not 353 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: saying that that's a, reason but on his, way that's. 354 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: Right it was a good impathus for. 355 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: It and. 356 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: Was he not a? 357 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: Kicker Coach PARCELS i remember another story that he always 358 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: used to tell us The walker tackle in The dallas, 359 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: game and he said That you pulled him aside after 360 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: that and, said, listen, well what did you tell? 361 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: Him, WELL i don't, know BUT i know he won 362 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: all his teammates respects right, there and all the. Coaches 363 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: so he was. In he was one us now because 364 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 3: of what he, did just that one. Play and you, 365 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: know not many kickers will do, That Herscha walker right. Right. 366 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: You you Mentioned Curtis martin, earlier AND i want to 367 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: talk about him a little. 368 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: Bit so Boy, wonder Boy. 369 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: Wonder AND i remember that first, year his rookie, year 370 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: he had that first good, game and you came through 371 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: the locker. Room you're, like, yeah one, Game wonder because everybody. 372 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 3: Was, everybody it was all around, them you, know, Right. 373 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: But he was he was something. 374 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: Else he was a special kid in my life. 375 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: On and off the. 376 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: Field you know where he came from and what he. Became, 377 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: yep that makes me, cry, sorry. 378 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: No, here go go for it because HE i mean 379 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: SO i. 380 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: Am always in close contact with. Him. Okay you know 381 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 3: there's a few, people a few. Players this is one 382 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: of the most gratifying things about this. Profession there are 383 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 3: a few players they call you On Father's, day and 384 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: he's one of. 385 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 6: Them. 386 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah i'll just tell you that means a. Lot 387 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: that's really he. Is he doesn't just talk to, Talk 388 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: he walks it and you, know like be on the 389 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: bus head buried in That, bible and you. 390 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Know he was the real. 391 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Deal AND i remember the story the. Rookies you, know 392 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: they would come and grab you out of your room 393 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: and cut your, hair and they went into his room 394 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: and he's studying His bible and they couldn't do it to. 395 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: Him like hands. 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: Off he's. Good he's doing very. 397 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: Well and then one of the first things you did 398 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: when you left The, jets which by the, Way i'm 399 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: still mad, about is uh. 400 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: Is you? 401 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: You you got him over there with? 402 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: You. 403 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, YEAH i got to try to get good. 404 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: Players, yeah and he's one of The he's The hall Of, 405 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: famer no. 406 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 3: Question they changed the rules the poison. 407 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: PILL i, know, LISTEN i lived through it. 408 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: All they changed the rules yeah after that. 409 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: One oh, yeah but smart. 410 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: Business that ninety six fog game coach parcels against The, 411 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 4: steelers the division around in the, playoffs and the image 412 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 4: THAT i remember Is martin running away from. Everybody hard 413 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 4: to see him because of the. Fog Bledsoe's bletsoe's running 414 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: behind him with his finger up in the. AIR i 415 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: mean that was a special moment for people here In New. 416 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: England it was behind the. Team they didn't really. 417 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: Know here comes the Vaunted Pittsburgh steelers and you guys 418 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 4: thumped him that. 419 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 6: Day. 420 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah it wasn't even. Close, no it was. Good. Yeah 421 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 3: i'll tell you a very uh funny story that happened 422 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: in the. Game. Gosh Rod woodson was playing right corner 423 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: for The steelers left corners and this. Happened and so 424 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: we were on like a full mode attack in this 425 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: game and we hit a pass on him down the 426 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: field that was, contested and he had been smiling at, 427 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: me okay before the, play AND i said to. Him 428 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: he came back and he was flying up back. Again 429 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 3: it's not funny, now Rods. Am he, said, yeah it's still, funny, 430 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: coach it's still. Funny they would Beat Terry glenn beat 431 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: him to the four yard. Line, YEP i, said he came. 432 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: BACK i, said how about it, now it's still, Funny, Rod, no, 433 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: coach it's Fun. 434 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: SO i, mean you were known for being funny and 435 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: having those you, know. 436 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: Ways to get you to needle your. Guy where did 437 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: you get that? From is? That was that just? Natural or, yeah. 438 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 3: It's got to be. Yourself, yeah you, know and you 439 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: Know i'm. CONFRONTATIONAL i had a very confrontational, mother highly, 440 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: confrontation and So i've always been let's let's get it 441 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: out on the table and let's settle. 442 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: It now and where or? Not so you grew up that, way, yeah. 443 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: Exactly. 444 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, now So. 445 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: Lock talks about, practice he said the needle was usually 446 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: out during stretch where that was the time to bust 447 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: balls at that point in, time and nobody was. Immune 448 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: somebody was a little heavy is weight you're gonna get 449 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 4: him with the, Weight you're gonna get him on all 450 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: kinds OF i have. 451 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: To get myself with. 452 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: That but he said that that was like he reveres 453 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: that time and thinks back at that time about that's 454 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 4: the special. Camaraderie that is what football is all. 455 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: About it is and you, know it's you can't explain 456 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: it to. People there's just something it's kind of like 457 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: a a like a. Magnet it just it keeps you. 458 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: Together it's just, yeah and the, man it's als fair. 459 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: Too it's if you're sensitive at all business, Right, no, 460 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: shot that's, right because the more they find out you're, 461 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 3: sensitive they make it, worse that's. 462 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: Right so, yeah, Yeah and it wasn't just the. 463 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i, know media, guys the older guys and a 464 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: lot of them will be here. Today who revere you 465 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: because you had a way of handling a press conference 466 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: where you wouldn't get about any, information but you did 467 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: it in an entertaining way and so. 468 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 3: You, know we're supposed to collect, information not. 469 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: Extremes that was one of the first things you told 470 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: me as. Well and like you had this, way this charm. 471 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: About you that you could needle them and give them 472 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: a hard, time but they'd still be smiling when you were. 473 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 3: Not like they had good press corp here and experienced 474 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: you know. What the Late will McDonald was a close 475 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: friend of. Mine yeah you know. That you, Know borges 476 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: and Mad, yeah you know they were. All, YEAH i 477 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 3: knew him. 478 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: All and you know you had to respect MANN x 479 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: because he'd do his always and he'd give you an 480 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: f but he'd be in that locker room the next 481 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: day and if you had something to say. 482 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: Say he was always on my. 483 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: Case oh, yeah, yeah but you respected, HIM i. 484 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: Did. 485 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: Yeah is he? 486 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 3: COMING i don't, KNOW i don't. 487 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: KNOW i don't. Know he's down In. FLORIDA i know. 488 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: That. Yeah and my guess as you respected the people 489 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: that were there every, day like not just one off. 490 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: Guys you, know the guys that. Working, yeah they gotta. Work. 491 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah well we uh we're good. 492 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: Here, okay so you know what that. Means that usually 493 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: means it's about eight more. 494 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: Questions, yeah maybe what on that talked a little About 495 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: Vinitary Pro Football hall Of fame For Audam. 496 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: Vinitary do you believe so on roller? Skates? 497 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah should be in already. 498 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: On roller, skates yeah. 499 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah and then, uh our owner has been up a few. 500 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 2: Times tell me why you think you should get come? On, yeah, 501 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: yeah all is he's getting truss. 502 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: Me he's getting in. 503 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: Well sooner than you. Think, YEAH i, Hope SO i. 504 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: Hope so you don't have to. Hope, okay you said that's. 505 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: Happened you know some people are doing, those. 506 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: AND i think THAT i think this own is probably 507 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 4: pretty easy as well. Coached but one of your, proteges Coach, 508 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: belichick he's just to same set of roller skates That 509 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 4: vinitari's got he's going in on roller. 510 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: Skates yes he, is no. Doubt. 511 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 4: Yeah when when you got out of, it, coach and 512 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: you could look at some of the people that you 513 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: mentored or worked, with you, know guys Like bill you know, 514 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 4: today guys Like Sean, Payton Aaron glenn And New york 515 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: guys that you've, had do you is there a curiosity 516 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 4: and an interest that you want to see what these 517 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: guys now that's out of. 518 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: IT i pay close attention all the guys THAT i 519 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 3: worked with that are head, Coaches hot bowls And. Tampa you, 520 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: know it's just you Can't it's human. Nature you gotta 521 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: find out what they're. Doing you know they, say mama's 522 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: gotta know if that's. It, yeah you gotta. 523 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: Know, yeah it must be great to see them doing. 524 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: Well oh yeah. 525 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: It Is, Bill and you, KNOW i Know Al grove 526 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: is going to be here. 527 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: Today. Yep it's keep. Shoveling that's, right you got a. 528 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: Dig. Yeah he brought that shovel out there on the, 529 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: sideline stayed there all. 530 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: Year. Yeah, yeah, good that was. 531 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: Good. 532 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah mouse. TRAPPED i remember all the things that you. 533 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: Use you remember the? Mouse oh, yeah, sure, yeah. 534 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: Because he used to hang the mouse traps when you 535 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: know the media was talking about all this team is 536 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: not good and don't don't, listen don't don't take. 537 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: It don't take the, cheese. 538 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: Right that's, right don't take the. Cheese. 539 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: Yep, well, coach it's been it's been an. Honor it's 540 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: great to see you. Again BUT i hope it's not 541 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: the last time you come. 542 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: Back, Okay, WELL i want to say it's an honor 543 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: being here And i'm very humbled by the. 544 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: Award, YEAH i think IT'S i think you being, here. 545 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: COACH i think it's a very big deal for a 546 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: lot of fans In New. England you, know they welcomed you. 547 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 4: Back you're a big part of why this stadium is still. 548 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: Here you. 549 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: KNOW i think people look at the success that they've, 550 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: had you, know and it's been tremendous, success but people 551 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: like Yourself Bledsoe. Craft you, know you built the foundation 552 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: for football. Fans you, know you, guys you couldn't get 553 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: arrested in this. Area we're playing football until you guys came. 554 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: ALONG i was. Here you couldn't give tickets away and 555 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: now we have archery in the. 556 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: State that's. 557 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: RIGHT i use, that by the, way all the. Time 558 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 4: we sometimes call it canniball practice if it's a really bad. 559 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Day, yeah people SAY i bought my season tickets the 560 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: day That Bill parcells was, hired because, good we had 561 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: a legitimate. Coach, Finally, yeah thank you very. Much, yeah thank, 562 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: you thank. 563 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: You. 564 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: Coach, yes. 565 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: All, right so we have a surprise guest, here the, 566 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: Owner Robert. Kraft so you heard somebody was in. Town 567 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: you decided to stop. 568 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 6: In, yeah, well, actually you you want to know. Something, 569 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 6: sure we almost were classmates in. College do you remember 570 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 6: is That? 571 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 3: Columbia? 572 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, SEE i couldn't believe. It AND i played freshman football. 573 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 6: There we would have been on the same. Team oh, 574 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 6: wow in the world The Ivy league And Armie navy 575 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 6: had lightweight. TEAMS i switched to that much soft for, 576 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: media but. Freshman and you know, what the last Time 577 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 6: columbia won A Super, bowl this, Guy Bill, campbell was nineteen. 578 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 6: SIXTY i guess when we would have been soft would 579 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 6: have been. 580 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: THERE i knew the baseball coach was Named John wincoln 581 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 3: and he was the one that really was pushing me 582 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 3: to go. There AND i was going to play football, 583 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: Too but he who was the guy. 584 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 6: That, really can you imagine we would have been on 585 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 6: the same. FRESHURE i got a picture of the. Freshman 586 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 6: i'll show it to you IF i can get BECAUSE 587 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 6: i have another PICTURE i want to show. 588 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: You look good by the way it really looked. WELL 589 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: i got to go in the Next. 590 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 6: Friday them you are, no BUT i. Never so here's 591 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: the thing. THERE i was a fan with my sons 592 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 6: watching watching The, patriots and we had gone to the 593 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 6: games in the old, stadium and then we got the. 594 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 6: Stadium i'll never forget the last game Against. Miami, yeah 595 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 6: and the way we won that you won the last four, 596 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: games and. 597 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: That was in ninety. Three the FIRST i. 598 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 6: Went down the elevator, ESPECIALLY i Remember jonathan And danny 599 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 6: AND i, said you know, what we can't let this 600 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 6: team go To Saint. 601 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: Louis we got to do. 602 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: It so my bride said to, me what are you 603 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 6: going to pay for the? TEAM i, said the right 604 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 6: numbers won, ten But i'll probably. 605 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: Go to one fifteen to one. Twenty and then we 606 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: played one seventy. 607 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 6: Two but you being the anchor and Bled so the, 608 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 6: quarterback and that those last four, games it was just 609 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 6: an emotional. 610 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: THING i was going to pay WHATEVER i had to, pay, 611 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: GOTCHA i want to keep the. 612 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 6: Team, no but you were the. Inspiration thank you very. 613 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 6: Much you're very. 614 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: Kind but, no if we didn't have the, resources it 615 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: wouldn't have got. GOING i thank you for. 616 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 6: That, well think how you changed We we hadn't won 617 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 6: a playoff game in eight. Years we never, no, wait 618 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 6: we hadn't been to a. 619 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 3: Playoff we never won a home player. 620 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 6: Game never THINK i was thinking about that BECAUSE i 621 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 6: went to the. 622 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: Games the first thirty four. 623 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 6: Years the only home playoff game was against The Houston 624 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 6: oilists nineteen seventy. Eight Earl campbell ran for over one hundred. 625 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 6: Yards so think about. It in the thirty four years 626 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 6: before you, arrived they had never had more than they 627 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 6: never won a playoff. 628 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: Game, well it's amazing to see what this has. Become 629 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: and it's a tribute to you and all the players 630 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: and coaches. 631 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 6: And you know what it. Is, yeah well we're proud 632 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 6: to do you. Know, no but you know what you, 633 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 6: did and it never WAS i got well it might 634 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 6: have been, reciprocal but. No but when you think about, 635 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 6: it the impact that you, had because, No i'll just tell, 636 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 6: YOU i WENT i sat in all four Venues Fenroy, POTT, 637 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 6: bcbu and it Just hovid and it just you, know 638 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 6: those of us that loved. It you came and created 639 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 6: the culture and. Changed, no it's. TRUE i don't know 640 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 6: THAT i would have well and dumb enough to step. 641 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: UP i was going to, ask, like if it was 642 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: any other coach and they hadn't won those four games 643 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: coming down the, stretch is there a chance that you would, 644 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: say you know, what, No i'm not going to do, 645 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: this and they would have been In Saint. 646 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 6: LOUIS i have trouble remembering back five. Years, yeah sort 647 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 6: of go. 648 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: Back your memory is pretty good so. 649 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 6: Far ninety three it, WAS i Guess december ninety three. 650 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 6: THREE i just we had bought the stadium out of, 651 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 6: bankruptcy you, know and so we own the same so 652 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 6: we're in the, suite not sitting in the metal, benches 653 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 6: AND i just remember, that the way we won that 654 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 6: and the feeling WHEN i got. 655 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: It. 656 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, no but you, Look you've had a lot of great, 657 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 6: well but you. 658 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: Know you remember. 659 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 6: Those i'm special THAT i try to get a golf, 660 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 6: game but he's always driving WHEN i don't go down 661 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 6: there till our season's. Over, yeah, NO i still go 662 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 6: yea to go To. Well we gotta we gotta get 663 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 6: a golf game in this. YEAR i can't play dead 664 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 6: in The western. 665 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 4: Movie your first game is The OWNER rkk In. MIAMI 666 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: i vividly recall this picture of this. Video it's pouring 667 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: rain before the. Game you're standing in the tunnel with 668 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 4: this guy And Don shultt trying to wait and see 669 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: before the game. Starts that wasn't a great result the. 670 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: First two, games. 671 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 4: But fians will remember bled sort of coach that was, 672 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 4: like that was. Unbelievable that Was marino De frar that 673 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: beat you that. Games so you had to see the 674 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 4: excitement that. First we were pissed probably that they. 675 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 3: Lost, well we scored over, THIRTY i. BELIEVE i remember 676 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: it was. 677 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 6: Exciting we had an offense, unfortunate But i'll tell you 678 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 6: in fairness to coaching or our, players because we just 679 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 6: were down there, again it's so, hot and for guys 680 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 6: who want used to training there wearing thirty forty pounds of. 681 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 6: EQUIPMENT i, mean they played a great. Game the same 682 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 6: thing happened In buffalo next week, Too but you know 683 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 6: what it, Was it was no you know what it 684 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: was so. Exciting and, UH i think for me. Too you, 685 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 6: know well we went to the. 686 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: Playoffs, no that's, good that's what we're supposed to, Do. 687 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 3: Chicago remember the last. 688 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 6: Game the worst part of that season was losing in 689 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 6: the playoffs to his former, PAL i, mean former. 690 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 2: COACHING i know. 691 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 3: We weren't quite ready. Though we had a chance at 692 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: the end of that, game and, uh, listen this is. 693 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: Vivid remember this, kid we Had Ray. Crittenden, yeah, okay 694 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,959 Speaker 3: this game is. Close we get Really Sky Virginia, tech 695 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 3: and so we had a. Chance if we can make 696 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: one big, play we might beat. Him right, there a, 697 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 3: post Bro bruce throws a nice post him hits him 698 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 3: right in the shoulder pad and bounces. Off that would 699 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: have put us on about the ten yard. 700 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: Line, yeah game of. 701 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 6: Inches, no but what what a game and what a 702 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 6: career you? 703 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 3: Had no what you changed? 704 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 6: Everything here you were the icing on the top of the, 705 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 6: cave you, know the finished. 706 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: And it was important for you to Have. 707 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, no oh yeah. No AND. 708 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 6: I wanted the. Fans he deserved it so. Much and, 709 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 6: look our fans are. Competitive so you, know is. 710 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: A jersey guy really one of? 711 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 6: Us but that jersey guy changed everything here and And 712 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 6: no brought us a sense of sophistication and you, know 713 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 6: people respected. US i don't think people you, know we're 714 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 6: ever lived in the affair with the team and the 715 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 6: way you. 716 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: Motivated, well look what it's become. 717 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 6: Done, OKAY i MEAN i pinched, myself well it's going well. 718 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: Now. 719 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, no And i'm glad To I'm i'm glad this 720 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 6: is And i'm look in my, LIFE i always remember 721 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 6: the people who were good to me when it really. 722 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 6: Counted and you know we might have had our disagreements 723 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 6: and part of, it you, KNOW i was. 724 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: NEW i wasn't patient. 725 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 6: Enough, yeah but you were also established and you knew the. 726 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 6: Shortcomings you know what could happen is everything in life 727 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 6: is a learning. Curve but it's important to hang with good. 728 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 6: People and we were really lucky to have. You, well thank, 729 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 6: you And i'm really glad that you're letting. 730 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: Us put you in because you deserve. 731 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 2: To you. 732 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: Can't, hey this Is. 733 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 7: Evan thanks for tuning in to the. Show if you 734 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 7: really want to help, us make sure to like us 735 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 7: On Apple, Podcasts, spotify or wherever you get your. Podcasts, 736 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 7: also make sure to follow on the New England patriots 737 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 7: YouTube channel see this show and everything else we do 738 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 7: here at The. 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