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Speaker 1: This is Seahawks Stories fiftieth season edition presented by Emerald

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Speaker 1: City Athletics. We're broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio presented

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Speaker 1: by Sony, an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. Our

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Speaker 1: Stories from the Seahawks fiftieth seasons continues, and we are

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Speaker 1: going to talk about Pete Carroll. I don't think we

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Speaker 1: need to set the stage about Pete, but let's just

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Speaker 1: run through a few of these numbers. Fourteen seasons with

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, they reached the postseason ten times, a winning

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Speaker 1: record in eleven of those seasons. We know, back to

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Speaker 1: back Super Bowl appearances, and helped to oversee a defense

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Speaker 1: that led the league in scoring defense for four straight seasons.

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Speaker 1: That is a first in the Super Bowl era. To

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Speaker 1: help us with this conversation about coach, how about a

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Speaker 1: couple of members of that defense, Red Bryant and Cliff Avril. Guys,

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Speaker 1: you're ready to talk about Pete Carroll. You guys started

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Speaker 1: smiling before I even got to the end of that introduction.

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Speaker 2: It's unreal. I mean, you just talked about all the

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Speaker 2: stats to winning the the you know, four years straight,

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Speaker 2: or number one defense, like that's a heck of a resume. Like,

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Speaker 2: that's two coaches resumes, right, Like two great coaches resumes

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Speaker 2: right there. So it's I don't know, it excites me

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Speaker 2: because I got to I got to be a part

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Speaker 2: of that, I got to experience that because I got

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Speaker 2: to experience quite a few coaches through my journey, but

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Speaker 2: experiencing someone like Coach Carroll. Honestly, it took me. It

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Speaker 2: took me about half of my first season to really

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Speaker 2: buy into like Coach Carroll and his message.

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Speaker 1: Now, see that's what I was going to ask because

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Speaker 1: he was really different and you came in in.

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Speaker 2: What you're thirteen first year? Ye okay, yeah, so my

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Speaker 2: first year, Like it took. It took me a while

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Speaker 2: to like because I'm used to the NFL. Like again,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm with the Lions. Things are a lot different.

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Speaker 2: Music is blasting when you get here. I'll never forget

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Speaker 2: the first time I talked to Coach Carroll during free

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Speaker 2: agency and I'm on the phone with him, He's like, hey, hey, hey, man,

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Speaker 2: works out to get you. You you ready to make

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Speaker 2: this thing happen. You know, you're one of the last

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Speaker 2: pieces we think we can make this running all this

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Speaker 2: other stuff, and I'm like, this feel like college. It's

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Speaker 2: like one of the coaches are recruiting you all over again.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, I'm like, this is the NFL. Like I'm like, sure, coach,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I'm excited, but

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of like because I one of the things

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Speaker 2: I had realized up until that point is like, everything

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Speaker 2: is great until you start losing some games. Now now

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Speaker 2: coaches kind of changed up with who they are, so

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I need to see how he really reacts

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Speaker 2: when we lose a game. And he was consistent us

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Speaker 2: all get out, and I think that's the thing I

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Speaker 2: appreciate about him the most is he did not waiver, win, lose,

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Speaker 2: or draw. You're gonna get the same coach on Monday

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Speaker 2: or Tuesday, and that's special.

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Speaker 1: It is special and very unique. Red, what was your

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Speaker 1: first impression of Pete?

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Speaker 3: My first impression of Coach Carroll. I was probably the

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Speaker 3: same mind frame as a clear physician.

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Speaker 4: Is this real?

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Speaker 3: Because you got to remember when Coach Carroll came At

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Speaker 3: that time, I was still wearing glasses and I didn't

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Speaker 3: know that he he has a philosophy. He watches everything

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Speaker 3: like that to me, I'm not watching every little my

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Speaker 3: new thing you do. But that's an attestament to what

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Speaker 3: makes him a great coach. He watches Okay, this guy

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Speaker 3: wears glasses and so lawyer malloy, he's the one that

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Speaker 3: basically bullied me. You said, how you get bullied? Yeah, lord,

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Speaker 3: he bullied me. He's like, listen, man, you in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Now you need to go get lazy. So he made

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Speaker 3: me go to Bellevue to get lazy. So I had

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Speaker 3: got lazy surgery so I didn't have to wear glasses anymore.

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Speaker 3: And I came in because Kurl was like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: who is this guy? Like what you're talking about? He

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Speaker 3: was like, where your glasses? Are?

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Speaker 4: You switching up?

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Speaker 3: But no, I want you to stay exactly how you were.

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Speaker 3: I just kind of laughed at all. But in hindsight,

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Speaker 3: when you think about it, that's Coach Carroll. That's how

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Speaker 1: That must be how he was able to manage and

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Speaker 1: effectively coach so many personalities on that team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter which side of the ball. We're talking

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Speaker 2: How did he do it? Man, That's a that's a

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Speaker 2: special type of person, right. I mean, obviously coach is

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Speaker 2: extremely smart. He's into the whole psychology aspect of things too.

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Speaker 2: But to one I think because most coaches want their

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Speaker 2: Coach Carroll is more of the mindset of like, let

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Speaker 2: me let these guys be themselves and I'll learn how

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Speaker 2: to communicate with them, right And And I think that's

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Speaker 2: special because again for me, I'm I'm I'm probably the

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Speaker 2: more quiet one of my guys, right, my d line,

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Speaker 2: my defense or whatnot. So when I walk into the

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Speaker 2: is this gonna last? Like this ain't gonna last long,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm saying, because everybody's vocal, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the locker room is a sacred space, so you say

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Speaker 2: whatever you want to say. But these guys are saying

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Speaker 2: of the coaches like so I'm like, how long is it?

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Speaker 2: And to me, I think again, that's what make Coach

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Speaker 2: Carrol so special is he understood that he would he

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Speaker 2: once they crossed those lines, it's about business. But still

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Speaker 2: be yourself out there, right, still can You can still

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Speaker 2: have that personality but you but but you have to

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Speaker 3: See, a lot of people didn't realize. He used to

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Speaker 3: always harass us the dealings. O. Man, we couldn't do

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Speaker 3: nothing right. We couldn't do nothing right. He was like,

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Speaker 3: I said, Coach Carroll, now you know you ain't gotta

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Speaker 3: worry about my way. He's like, yeah, I do. Like

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Speaker 3: why he was like, because you still hadn't got it

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Speaker 4: He got he got pissed out for about it.

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Speaker 3: He was like why, but why why you guys got

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Speaker 3: to be difficult. I asked you guys, excuse me, he said,

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Speaker 4: I didn't want anybody riding the elevator.

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Speaker 3: I wanted you to walk up the stairs and were like, Coach,

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Speaker 3: it makes no sense. But elevated working and like the

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Speaker 3: D line. We I'm talking about ten tones down.

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Speaker 4: We rolled in.

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Speaker 2: Elevator every day we.

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Speaker 4: Cut through the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: He's like, well, why you cutting through the bathroom cause

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Speaker 3: it's quicker to get to the meeting room. Coach, he

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Speaker 3: was like, you know what that's tell me. You guys

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Speaker 3: like shot cuts. You guys like talk cults. So we

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Speaker 3: get we get ticked out. We go to practice, to

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Speaker 2: Got to get into a bra A.

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Speaker 4: Lot of people didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Coach Kurr, he was saying, when it came to us

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Speaker 3: and then the DBS, they got away with murder.

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Speaker 4: We felt like, but the D line, he was.

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Speaker 2: Like, he was on us, but I think, but I

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Speaker 2: think the reason why is he understood, like although the

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Speaker 2: to that defense too. Right, you got to have some

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Speaker 2: You get you get big Red mad, He's gonna move

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Speaker 2: think that's why I feel like that's why he always

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Speaker 2: but always mad, always angry, So so the rest of

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, Pet had legendary meetings. I have

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Speaker 1: only heard about a field. What's the one that caught

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Speaker 1: you off guard or like made you go, hold on

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Speaker 1: a second, what are we doing? And where am I at?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Like coach Kurle, Like one time we get in the

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Speaker 3: it like Indian style, you know, like in and the

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Speaker 3: what's going on? He was like, yeah, man, I just

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Speaker 3: I just in hindsight. Coach kurll Man, he was phenomenal

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Speaker 3: with that. Like we go in the meeting and we're

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Speaker 3: talking about everything but football. This was before our first meeting.

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Speaker 3: Like every morning, we gonna know what's going on in

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Speaker 3: the world. He gonna he gonna touch on a funny video.

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Speaker 3: Coach Carlisle gonna get up there and give us a

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Speaker 3: great story that it's gonna translate to why you feeling,

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Speaker 4: Push through it.

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Speaker 3: I just ain't never seen nobody be able to just

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Speaker 3: just don't know the D line stuck up for each other.

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Speaker 3: You could have eaten it just you know, lit somebody.

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Speaker 3: But guys were just you know, they we were just

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Speaker 3: hanging in there. But we hated running over those bags.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's like, what you mean. I'm like, he was like, no,

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Speaker 4: cod sometimes we get on.

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Speaker 2: The side, let us do it.

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Speaker 1: Right, we're talking before practice.

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Speaker 3: That's what Clip was talking about, like him being in

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Speaker 3: the Nelson Football League. The older you get, the list

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Speaker 3: likely you are to be doing running over the banks.

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Speaker 3: But not with Coach Carroll. It's just like your first

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Speaker 3: day of this. See he gonna hit the bank every

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Speaker 2: I think. I think with Coach Carroll one of the

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Speaker 2: meetings that just resonates with me and what be read

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Speaker 2: talking about. We used to call it the Kumbaya. Was

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Speaker 2: like coach again, like what are we doing here? But

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget this is a preseason game. Red You'll

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Speaker 2: remember this. It's a preseason game. And I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: lie to you. As a veteran, I'm nine times out

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Speaker 2: of ten, I'm not paying attention to what's going on

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Speaker 2: because I've already kind of locked in. I know what

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Speaker 2: like don't I didn't need to get hyped up, right,

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Speaker 3: And Coach Carroll has an uncanny way to get me

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Speaker 3: to they in that college mentality of working hard, preservation,

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Speaker 3: preservation and putting we in front of eye and you

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Speaker 2: No doubt. And again, the NFL is not necessarily structured

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl, right, So,

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Speaker 2: so to have that mentality and to show that, hey,

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Speaker 2: guys feel like a team, where guys feel are selfless,

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Speaker 2: where guys will play for one another, showing that that

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Speaker 2: and one thing we all we've always said, and we've

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Speaker 2: over the years, you've seen that that that that that yeah,

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Speaker 2: that playbook, You've seen that playbook over the years of

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Speaker 2: people trying to mimic some of these different ways and

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Speaker 2: changing up because the NFL was not operating like that

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Speaker 2: prior to Coach Carol, very militant, very we want things

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Speaker 2: done this, this, this, and we want you to act this, this,

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Speaker 2: this that way. Coach Caroll like, man, be yourself, just

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Speaker 2: turn up when you get out there.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Just be yourself, have fun, you know, and and and

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Speaker 1: And that is perhaps the greatest legacy that Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: and his time in the NFL and with the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: has left, that is going to do it. For this

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Speaker 1: edition of our special podcast series exploring stories from the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks fifty seasons in existence, Red Bryant play FAVORL. Thank

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Speaker 1: you friends for joining, Thank you for having me, thank you,

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