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Speaker 1: is that both sides think they have something to gain

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Speaker 1: from what's happening right now, and the reality situation is,

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Speaker 1: no one gains from this situation, the job, No one

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Speaker 1: gains from the economy that was going gainbusters and we're

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the longest expansion in American history.

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Speaker 1: No one gains from that. Going down the toilet. The

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Speaker 1: politicians needs forg us out. I I that you know

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Speaker 1: what you just said. That's the quote of the day

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Speaker 1: that the the axiom never let a good crisis go

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Speaker 1: a that? And that's it. That's that's just so angering

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Speaker 1: Give me some hope, give me some optimism, because I

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Speaker 1: just saw, I mean, on CNBC on Closing Bell the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Federal Reserve President Patrick Harcher Harker, Uh, he said

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Speaker 1: that quote. We're going to hit a period where it's

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Speaker 1: going to be pretty bad. It's pretty bad right now,

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Speaker 1: but we will climb out of this. It's not going

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. There's going to be certain

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Speaker 1: That will take some time for recovery. But again to

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Speaker 1: your point, I mean, he keeps saying that, uh, that

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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some type of bounce back. We

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Speaker 1: have about a night left, so give me some optimism.

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you seen that meme going on Instagram, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: That's like, before we rush back to normal, let's assess

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Speaker 1: what normal is worth rushing back to. I do think

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little bit of a realignment something

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Speaker 1: know now that we're not a manufacturing country anymore, people

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Speaker 1: are still asking how did this happen? Where what do

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Speaker 1: we do with people who used to have those skill sets?

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Speaker 1: Hopefully what this does is another realignment that proves what

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Speaker 1: we need is worker training to be thorough and consistent

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of a worker, not just want a

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Speaker 1: crisis hits. I think there might be a little bit

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Speaker 1: of realignment and industry that allows people to really hit

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Speaker 1: to really go through something like this that's disruptive at

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Speaker 1: the outset, but ultimately make workers better off. Thank you, Maddie.

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Speaker 1: And that's all we want is for workers to be

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Speaker 1: better off. Mattie Depler, everybody coming up, we continue the

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Speaker 1: conversation on policy and politics, and we check in with

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Speaker 1: the Garshamalia, Kevin s Earli, you're listening to Bloomberg. You

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Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg. Sound on with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: and one oh five points seven f M h D two.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Coming up in the next half hour, President

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Speaker 1: Trump's daily Coronavirus Task Force Briefing. He's gonna lay out

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Speaker 1: the guidelines spolkes for reopening the economy. You can catch

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Speaker 1: that innoc entirety right here on Bloomberg. Now returning to

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Speaker 1: the program, Huggarsh Molly CEO of Grettish Media Strategies, former

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Speaker 1: Treasury Department spokesperson for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, and Huggar

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Speaker 1: first of all, welcome back. How how are you? How

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Speaker 1: how is the family? And hopefully you're staying healthy and active.

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Speaker 1: You'res those great to ask. It's so great to be

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Speaker 1: on with you. Kevin. I I miss you guys in person. Great,

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Speaker 1: thank you for asking. We're all doing well. I'm counting

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Speaker 1: my blessing, you know what. I love that and that's

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Speaker 1: one thing definitely I think, uh, you know, and I

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Speaker 1: don't really shared this, but you know, for me, it's

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Speaker 1: been Listen. I have nothing to complain about nothing, I'm

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Speaker 1: filled with gratitude. But it's the stillness and having to

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Speaker 1: sit still that I've really struggled with her Gar, if

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Speaker 1: I'm if I'm going to be a little you know,

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Speaker 1: personal for a second, that the you know, spreading around

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Speaker 1: the world and all around the country for the first

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Speaker 1: you know, quarter of this here for the last five years,

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Speaker 1: and then it's like you're forced to sit still. So

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Speaker 1: I definitely had an adjustment period. Did you find that

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Speaker 1: as well, Hagar, because you're you're you're a Jets global

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Speaker 1: jets that are moms superhero did you find that as well? Yes? Well,

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Speaker 1: and I can I can monuct you a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that arsenally can run up me in every department

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Speaker 1: of my life. Go ahead, you know. On one hand, yes,

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Speaker 1: I completely agree, staying home is so hard. I hate

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Speaker 1: to complain because things could be so much worse. But

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Speaker 1: I am seven and a half month pregnant and sitting

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Speaker 1: all day has made everything much worse. And again, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to complain. I have my health, my kids

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Speaker 1: have health. I really can't complain. But um, I am

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Speaker 1: what it is, Hugo, Thank you for bringing that up,

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Speaker 1: because this was my polite way of asking you about

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Speaker 1: that without trying to, you know, be a little too.

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Speaker 1: It's personal on air, but I'm you're You're always in

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Speaker 1: my thoughts, you and your family. All right. So did

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Speaker 1: you see this Washington Post uh exclusive reporting that they

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Speaker 1: had about the outbreak on the U S S. Theodore

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Speaker 1: Roosevelt and how it's become a defining moment for the

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Speaker 1: US military. Navy Captain Brett Crozer's message, obtained by the Post,

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Speaker 1: Thomas Moldley later exaggerated how many people it was sent

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Speaker 1: to as he ousted Crozier. This story is insane. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: I it's it's remarkable. And you know what was more remarkable.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you know Captain Crozer the in the end,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a petition online that I think has

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Speaker 1: I mean, if there's anything I remember in government that

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Speaker 1: to hand it to them. But um, but you know,

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Speaker 1: It's it's really it's a it's really it's it's a

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Speaker 1: turning point for the Navy for sure. I think Trump.

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Speaker 1: President Trump is going to be asked about this in

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Speaker 1: What I learned from my interview with Guys Snodgrass is,

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Speaker 1: military and how they're having to navigate this, especially overseas,

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Speaker 1: that adds such a complex layer. And it's not just

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Speaker 1: the world in countries where quite honestly, they are not

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Speaker 1: as um, are not handling this as well as they

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Speaker 1: should be, right right, Oh, absolutely, you know it's to

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Speaker 1: your point about that it exactly so nicely to the

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Speaker 1: Josh Broken reported about, right that said that two years

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of waving red flag, by the way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a common theme between what you're

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Speaker 1: it reminds me. The first thing I thought when I

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Speaker 1: Krozer had sent to his superiors in his colleagues, was

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Speaker 1: just these are these are It's a team of people

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Speaker 1: they can. They just want to do their job. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 1: let's bring it to China, which you which you mentioned

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Speaker 1: and Rogan's excellent reporting in the Washington Post. Um, in

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Speaker 1: long term, It's not going to be a short term fix.

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Speaker 1: How does US policy, whether it's President Biden or a

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Speaker 1: asking this. You're previous where you previously worked, that division

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Speaker 1: this strategy. Oh sure, without a doubt, the Treasure Department,

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Speaker 1: this point of leverage where to to use over a country,

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Speaker 1: very specific behavior, but those types of financial measures, whether

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Speaker 1: And even now you see, I mean nothing has changed,

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Speaker 1: rather than trying to figure out a way to really

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Speaker 1: That's not really their job anyway, but investigating and helping

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