WEBVTT - Episode 390 - LIVE Show from Allegheny Coffee & Tea Exchange 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.000 I feel one on one shs he couple limit in 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.320 my taste with he and my limit made because I 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.040 let the way it taste best seats at the Pirates. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.119 Can't he let me run the base? Yeah, my time 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.440 is like my money because I can't afford to waste. 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.120 Oh why he is alloyer take my date to my 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.040 dates or to stick by the Blake sending case kept 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.360 the case from my race at my past clear of 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:20.120 grass at a. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.720 Snake Episode three to ninety of Bucko Banter. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.400 We were back at Allegheny Coffee in Tea Exchange down 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.760 in the Strip District. Come on, buy, ask a question 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.760 and you get one of these bad boys. You get 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.200 a free coffee just for hopping on the show, being 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.640 a brave soul and asking a question related to the Pirates. 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.800 We're here after a very disappointing loss last night. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.160 Scott to the Chicago Cubs in a three game set 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.400 here at PNC Park, which kicks off maybe the most 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:57.160 important homestand in the past ten years even more. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.440 Yeah, well, for sure the most Importan know, I'm staying 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.080 because you're going up against the Cubs who are above 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.960 us in the division, and then the Diamondbags you were fighting 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.280 for that last wild card spot with so very important games. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.880 These next five are even more important now that we 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.280 lost yesterday. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.480 But I want to start off this episode by quickly. 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.800 Giving a salud to my man Meatball Ron Marnachio, maybe 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.720 making his Pirates debut today. I got a hot espresso 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:25.640 shot here on this beautiful sunny day here in the 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:26.319 Strip district. 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.040 So shut out, Meatball Ron. I am drinking my classic 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.560 Nitro Espress. So we threw some cold foam on that 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.200 in some ice. It's beautiful. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.680 Have we considered the fact that maybe you shouldn't be 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.480 nicknaming man Meatball wrong? 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.360 It's simply too good. It's simply too good. It's all 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.600 in fun. It's all a joke. We're having fun out here. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.400 Let's talk about last night, because that wasn't fun. No, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.840 it wasn't fun at all. Obviously, the offense has come 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:52.760 to a little bit of a stall here in the 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.160 past couple of days, a little bit of some slump 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.880 here in the lineup, not as much slug right now. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.640 They just couldn't get anything going. Yeah, Brandon Laus been 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.440 cold and then he got robbed too. He got robbed. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.960 I mean like he had a nice opposite field hit 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.600 and that just went right to Bregnan. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.079 Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's tough because you up again 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.280 against a guy like Matt Boyd who you'd hope to 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.359 jump out in front of, while you have Show to 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.400 Ema Naga going today, by the way, Show to Ema Naga. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.720 Five career appearances against the Pirates, two and zero with 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:32.160 a point two eight e er thirty two k seven walks. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.600 You know, I'm not a mathematician, but I kinda or 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:39.400 a statistician, but I kind of like my odds throwing 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.160 the PCA last night over basing Show to Ema Naga. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.400 Let's talk about it. Yeah, let's let's go back to 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.080 last night. We could talk about Emaannaga here, uh after 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.760 we talked about last night's game, but they decided to 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.519 In the top of the tenth, Johan Ramirez is in 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.440 and he's been pitching well. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.320 Let's just give him his flowers there. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.240 He's been pitching well, but as we know, the all 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.640 moves a lot right, a lot of east to west 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.600 movement on that baseball coming out of his hands, sometimes 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:11.440 leading to a lot of walks. Right, guy on first 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.519 and second, PCA's up in the beginning of the game, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.239 he hits that home run off of Jared Jones, who 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:18.920 otherwise pitched stellar. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.040 And then first two pitches. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.320 Even Donnie Kelly said it in his postgame tried to 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.399 get him at Chase, wasn't working it and they gave 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:31.359 him the free base. Loading the bases not my favorite decision. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.359 I get the arguments PCA is really hot. You know, 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.600 he's been hitting the ball really well, especially against righty's, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.800 But in that moment, with that pitcher on the mound, 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.160 I would much rather challenge PCA because the odds are 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.960 a lot higher that you get him out than you know, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.920 getting through bases loaded situation with a Johann Ramirez on 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.480 the mount on listen. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.000 I'm all for a mix of analytics and feel for 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.440 the game and playing matchups when necessary, but that's one 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.440 hundred percent of a feel of a game situation right there, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.480 and it's it's specifically with the guy that you have 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.880 on the mound. I don't like intentionally walking a guy there, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.400 just generally, even though like so we're in post game, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.720 the reasoning was you're already down two oh, you don't 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.360 like the situation. PCA has been hot. Generally, I mean, 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.880 he's crushing Righty's right now, so let's take our chances 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:29.839 with Suzuki. Oh oh, but it really didn't talk about 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.760 the fact that the bases are loaded now and you're 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.400 putting yourself in a situation where he has to throw strike. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.240 He has to throw strikes. I think he walked him 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.520 on four straight pit like. It wasn't pretty for straight pitches. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.680 So you know, listen, baseball is a really hard game. 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.039 I understand you could be the hottest hitter on the 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:52.159 planet and still get out seven out of ten times. Yeah, okay, 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.760 I'll take my chances in that situation down to, Oh, 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.039 what's the worst that happens he walks them. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.120 We're in that situation regardless. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.600 Yeah, okay, there's a chance PCA tries to get into 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.640 hitters count and swing at something that maybe he shouldn't 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.479 swing at, or maybe he misses. You have eight other 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.520 guys on the field backing you up. The chances are 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.440 greater than not. Scott. Yeah, I just don't I really 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.120 don't agree with that situation. I don't agree with the 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.520 intentional walk there. I think it's trying to do too 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.480 much and look into a situation too much. When you 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.680 need to trust your guys a little bit more down 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.520 two oh, Who's who's to say he doesn't get back 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:31.039 into count? 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.040 Yeah, and it's just uh, deep, I think you had 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:35.040 something to say go ahead. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:36.240 That's the thing to me. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.800 It's like you don't think you can dig yourself out 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.080 of a two to oh and then you're like, well, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.240 let's go up to the next guy, like two oh. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.880 Is you're just selling it so early. And the thing 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:52.200 is also it's it's you're going against PCA in the again. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.080 We'll go back really good hitter. He's been hitting extremely 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.840 well right now, he's crushing righties. So what like then 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.960 intentionally walk them at the beginning of the at bat. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.280 I get maybe wanted to take a chance early on 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:08.200 in account, but at the same time, like you could 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.960 have just threw a first pitch strike and then he 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:12.720 goes deep. What do we got our random item of 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.960 the day here? I am genuinely taking off the shelf 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.680 after a few Yeah, okay, we got some dust on it. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:25.480 It looks like an old shoe box. Oh, baseball card, Yeah, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.600 we got some baseball cards in here, all right, Here 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.880 we got hockey cards in there. All right, I'm gonna 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.960 assume we're gonna pull out a baseball card gets the team, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.440 any team, Let's go with the Red Sox. Red Sox 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:37.760 do you got he's just looking. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.400 I didn't see the logo you got in all honestly, Cubs. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.760 We have the New Orleans Saints. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.200 Pull up the little box. What are we got in here? 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.520 Oh? Look at this? We have a nineteen eighty six 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:59.920 Tops Baseball picture cards. Whoa look at that? Oh look. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:07.719 Er, baby, an absolute Pittsburgh legend. Talk about yinzer Palooza 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:13.120 for real. That's that's an all timer. Look at this, 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.680 Jean Walter. Look at a stash on that guy. 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:21.320 There's like ninety dude, three cards of the actual Goat. No, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.200 Michael Jordan, just the friendly reminder. 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:29.040 The actual Goats ring chasing friend goes. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.040 To the actual Goats about to bring a championship to 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.080 his fourth franchise and beat the Knicks in the Eastern Conference. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.360 Fin good Love's face in the Knicks Lebron. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.920 Incredible, Thank you, Eric. Let me dig through this and 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:41.680 I'll see if I can pull up some pirates here. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.200 So let's go back to that situation real quick. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:47.840 Again. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:53.320 I you know, when we're covering this team, Scott. You 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.120 kind of have to look at it from a third 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.960 party view, not as a fan view, right. You gotta 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.000 kind of look into all the different situations, understand the reasoning, 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.120 and then go in there with a clear mind. I'll 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.320 say honestly, last night was the first time where it 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.440 genuinely wanted to hear the reasoning going into postgame because 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.600 it really just did not add add up to me. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.480 Yeah, and it just continues the theme of just leaving 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.160 games on the board every week. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:22.440 It's at least one every week. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:26.440 It feels like I love the ballpark saying they're still 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.280 playing like tomorrow is a better day, Today is the day. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.680 It's Yeah, they keep kicking the can down the road, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.120 and it's it's gonna cost them. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:37.120 It's gonna cost them. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.280 Another play I want to talk about is the throw 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:46.520 home from Jake Mangum. Henry Davis was playing a little deep, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.640 don't you think. And that's something that even Don Kelly 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.920 admitted that. Henry Davis even came the dugout and said, yeah, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.599 I thought the ball was going up the line a 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.079 little bit more. I probably could have could have been 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.520 a little less deep than I was, you know, uh, 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.680 maybe a step forward, he gets a tag down earlier. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.680 That was a bang bang play. I we talked about this. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.679 We had a conversation about sliding headfirst versus sliding feet 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.720 first and having the U. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:14.760 Inclination. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.960 Yeah, the front leg kickup when you're going feet first, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.120 and that almost cost was it? 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.200 Ian Happ? That was was that Ian Happ? 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:21.920 Yeah? 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.600 That almost cost Ian Happ there and it was It 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.920 was tough to see. Man, it looked like he could 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.040 have gotten when that leg got up, but it also 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.400 was bang bang And I don't know if there was 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:36.080 enough evidence to overturn it. But still another just you know, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.360 heat of the moment, you're you're in the middle of 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:38.760 the game. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.679 It's hard to make that adjustment. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.079 But you know, hindsight, it does look like Henry was 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:45.240 playing a little bit deep there. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:53.920 Oh man, let's not show that one, Molly. I who ah, 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.599 that is quite the trading card. I'm not going to 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:05.160 show that on camera. That is crazy. Here's my thinking 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.880 on that. Yeah, like if the ball's up the line, 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.200 but you're still not putting yourself in a position to 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.240 make the out there right Like games. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.520 On the line, you have to it's do or die, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:16.800 Like you. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.440 Go ahead, or you don't a pass ball, whatever it 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.640 may be, that's fine. The runner is gonna score anyways, right, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.880 and then you're down one nothing and probably in the 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:30.600 same situation you got to picture backing you up. It's 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.360 just bad positioning. There was a lot of I think 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.160 Aiden Sefanski brought it up in the post game last night. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.000 You know, winning in the margins, as we like to say, 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:45.760 And you know, how much more noticeable is that down 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.760 the stretch. It's like, of course, yeah it is. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.840 We've been talking about it since the beginning of June. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.440 We've been talking about it for years years, how you 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.559 gotta win in the margins, and now it really matters. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:00.400 We're not twenty games below five hundred, we're not out 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.400 of a race. These little things matter on a day 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.800 to day basis. More and more. Getting thrown out at 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.160 third base, I mean, what an incredible play by Nico 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.360 Horner up the middle, I mean, unreal and you get 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.640 kind of caught out in no man's land. That is 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:19.359 what it is. But just the little things positioning, game situations, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.720 which we're not even done talking about game situations, by 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.560 the way, We'll get into that in a second. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.120 But who knows. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.800 At the end of the day, the offense also has 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.160 to hit. Yeah too. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.080 I mean, like, let's not forget about that. The offense 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:30.600 has to hit. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.680 I'm not gonna be too tough on the offense because 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:37.840 they've been incredible all season long, but man, it's disappointing. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.640 You've got to hope to get into this bullpen, Cubs bullpen, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.840 because it is also not strong, and it hasn't been 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.360 for the last two seasons. But uh yeah, uh not 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.400 much impact last night with the bat Do you want 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.640 to talk about that, Jake menghembund in the ten. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.480 Yeah, let's talk about it. I mean, you're down too, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.800 and I understand going into that situation and you lay 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.760 down a really good Let's not like it was a 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.959 really good bump. But here's the problem. You go into 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:09.400 that situation and one, okay, you bunt for a hit. Great, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.840 But the thing is they're expecting it, probably from Jake. 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.839 They don't care about that runner on second anymore, right, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:21.280 so you know, worst case, you know for them, runner 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:23.439 goes over to third base, they get that out at first, 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.760 one out, that guy scores, It doesn't matter anymore if 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.520 he bunts for a base hit. Listen. I mean, like 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.040 we've had this literal conversation with Jake. Yeah before people 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.280 are talking differently. Oh my god. Now we have runners 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.160 on first and third, no out and we're in a 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.320 situation to win. I understand that it just didn't work 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.200 out that way, which is unfortunate. So the question now 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.480 is that you got to talk about it is now 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.760 you sacrifice it out for a runner that doesn't even 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.040 matter anymore, and the Cubs would gladly give that up 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.080 ten out of ten times. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.840 Yeah, you needed two runs, not one there, So interesting 0:12:55.960 --> 0:13:01.680 choice to start that ending there. But hey, let's not 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.600 dwell too much on the negatives. I know we can 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.480 talk about it all day, but we got a game 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:11.440 two win today show to Amanaga versus Paul Schemes will 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:15.520 be a dole for sure. What's the keys today to 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.360 uh secure a Pirates win and hopefully the series tomorrow. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.520 Today relies on offense, man, Yeah, it relies on offense. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.040 And this is not the guy that you want to 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.160 go against when you've had a two games stall where 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.360 you're not scoring any runs whatsoever. 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.360 Here here's the goal for today. You gotta make him 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.040 work counts. 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.199 I don't care if you go into the six innings 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.880 zero zero. You got to get him out of there 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:43.720 by six yeah, yeah, soon, man, And you know, I 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:48.319 don't you can pitch that back working inning, stressful winnings. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.800 You know, obviously you hope to score. You maybe get 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.840 a long ball here and there, but you got to 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.960 figure out this guy eventually. He's just been an absolute 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.679 kryptonite for the Pirates and you got to get him 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.000 out of the game because. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.840 The chances are he's going to be good today. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.080 Yeah, he's gonna be good. 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:05.559 You got to get him out of the game early. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.520 He's also a soft tossing lefty. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.800 He's not gonna hit ninety five, right, Like, this is 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.080 a guy that's gonna make you chase with the slider 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:16.120 and you know, pitched to the corners, and you gotta 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.000 be you gotta be disciplined up there at the plate 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.240 for sure and not let him get ahead and make 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.000 you chase. But let's uh Skeens has faced the Cubs 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.720 eight times in his career, two and three with a two, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.720 seven seventy or a fifty three. K's good. Yeah, he's 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.760 been really good too. Right, this is who he made 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.960 his debut against. We'll never forget that game here in 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.520 Pittsburgh and then I think he faced him like three 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.760 times in his first four starts of his career. But 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.680 you know, we need a big Skins outing too. We 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.760 need Skeens and Jones to be that one to two 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.600 punch that we you know, envisioned for the last two 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:50.080 years here and they're finally healthy playing together. So and 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.520 then you go in tomorrow you got ashcrap. So that's 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.280 a powerful one two three punch. If you look at 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.520 a playoff rotation, not to get ahead of ourselves, that's 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:57.400 probably the rotation. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.200 Jared has looked incredible, Jared, Jared. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.120 Has looked incredible, And I will eat my words from 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.680 the beginning of the year, like when we were debating 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.680 is he going to be in a bullpen roll coming 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.400 out of you know, off the injured list because they're 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:11.560 gonna try to manage his innings. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.400 Yeah, he deserves to be in that rotation. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:18.960 Guys. Absolutely. It's sometimes guys come back better, yeah, from 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:19.440 these things. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.600 And maybe Jared needed that. I mean, he won't agree 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:22.840 with that. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.560 Obviously you want it, you want to play, but maybe 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.120 you know you have a pretty good rookie year. There's 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:32.680 obviously maybe developing some some secondary pitches. Then you lose 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.760 a year, but you already have a year under your belt, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.920 so it's just learning from that one year what could 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.880 be better. And it's a lot of time to think 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:45.440 and develop pitch shape and in in design and that's 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:46.960 really helping him out. And you could tell us he 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:51.120 keeps building up that maturation of Jared Jones is getting 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.440 stronger and stronger. Yeah, and yeah, he's in the top 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:55.160 three right now. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.760 Yeah, And obviously it was asked last night in Donnie's 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.720 post game, Uh, do you envision you know, where it 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.000 came a little bit deeper into games, you know, throwing 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.920 more pitches and you know the classic coach speak. You know, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.640 that's something we evaluate with the training staff every day. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.040 You know, every start we're looking at how he feels 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.560 and what's best for Jared. So I don't know, you'd 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.680 have to think as we get deeper into the season here, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.360 his pitch count is going to start to go up 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.920 a little bit more, get into the nineties hopefully. But yeah, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:29.040 he's he has been everything and more than the last 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.560 three starts here for the Pirates. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.280 The question then becomes, and this was a little bit 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.320 of a conversation online the other day. You still have 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.360 a young rotation that hasn't thrown a lot of innings 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.760 in their career with Braxton and Bubba, and Bubba's look 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.640 good too. By the way, Braxton had his worst start 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.000 of the year against the Yankees, didn't get lucky in 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.760 the first inning. Who knows how the flow of the 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.760 game goes if Nikkid doesn't make the air at their base. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.640 But besides the point, these guys haven't thrown a lot 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.720 of innings in their career. And as the season goes 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.440 on and you get more competitive, how do you manage 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.720 those innings? Right? Like, how do you manage a bullpen? 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.920 How do you manage these starts? It's gonna get even 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.120 more difficult for a team where you know, situationally, it's 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.600 been iffy, Yeah, in terms of making the right decision, 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:18.480 and I mean a lot of its hindsight, But you 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.280 gotta think about that in the future. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.360 What it's gonna look like a month down if you're 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:23.680 in it. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.600 Yeah, that's why I'm really interested in a guy like 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.720 Foster Griffin. We talked about him on our Live with 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.359 Jim Stamm this past Thursday. 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.040 A guy that you could bring in and could be 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:33.920 a different look. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.320 From the left side, and you know, could probably piggyback 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.760 with some of these guys, or or you know, pitch 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.400 long a relief be your fifth starter. Maybe you know, 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.719 extend the rotation to a six man rotation. I think 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.760 you could get really creative with a guy like that. 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.320 But ultimately, you got to you gotta improve the bullpen first, 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.480 and you got to be able to close out games, 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.240 and that's gonna be the number one priority. 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.400 You know, there was a dog just jone right next 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.000 to me. Nah, dude, I just saw that. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.160 No, sure anything. He's just chilling. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:02.000 He's laying on the ground. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.160 He's listening to Bucko Banner. 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.920 What's up, buddy? No, not our dog. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.440 Do we want to tell him about the Wolf Game? 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.919 Uh? The Wolf Game? Uh? It's his dog? Okay, what 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:19.480 a well trained dog. Yeah? Wow, holy moly. Interesting. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:23.240 My dog would be way gone first and then would 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:23.680 have been gone. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.840 Unleash your dog in the strip is some absolutely devious. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.679 But that was the great That's that's the that's the 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.080 inventor of the Wolf game right there. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.000 Yeah, the Wolf Game is on Monday, ladies and gentlemen. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.880 We released the hype video maybe one of my proudest 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:38.800 editing moments. 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.280 Yeah, you've accomplished a lot in your life at him, like, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.440 you're you're a lawyer, you're you uh, you know, you've 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.480 won some big cases. I'm sure, but this, by far 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.679 is your biggest accomplishment. It is it is that one 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.399 video that took me like twenty minutes. Yeah, yeah, everything 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.600 you've accomplished in the in the courtroom pals to that. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.119 Yeah, no, one hundred agree. And we got some more 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.520 videos come out for the Wolf Game. If you don't 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.800 know what the Wolf Game is, you don't need to know. 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:05.280 You just show up on Monday at the top of 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.679 the reconda. Easier to just accept it. Accept Acceptance is 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.960 the first step, it really is. And what do we 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.240 got here. We got some pirates, Debo dug Through, we 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.879 got Mike Lavalier and Bob Patterson. 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.320 Bobby pat Yeah, so wolf. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.280 Game you wear. I'll say this, A lot of people 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.280 ask questions about the Wolf Game. What is it? The 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.439