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Speaker 1: College Football Playoffs Selection Committee put out its first rankings,

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Speaker 1: and all eyes are on Tuscaloosa because that matters so

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Speaker 1: And how does Erbmeyer factor into that? Mike Leach might

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Speaker 1: be leaving the Pack twelve? What the hell is going

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Speaker 1: on with Washington's Chris Fetterson? Really that great of about

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break down all the games as well. I'm

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Speaker 1: George Riser with Ralph Hampston and this is the back

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Speaker 1: twelve apostles. Ralph, all eyes are on Tuscaloosa. This week

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Speaker 1: L s U travels to go to play Alabama. It's

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Speaker 1: a totally different conference. You got a number two versus

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Speaker 1: number three from the College Football Playoff and the way

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Speaker 1: it checks out, it looks like the winner of that

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Speaker 1: game greatly affects the Pack twelve because if l s

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Speaker 1: all the path is clear for the Pack twelve. But

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Speaker 1: if Alabama wins, you know, the conversation for two SEC

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Speaker 1: teams is gonna get real strong. Well, I think that,

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Speaker 1: I mean that we go through this every single year. Um.

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Speaker 1: and so I I and I don't think that it's

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Speaker 1: completely unfair to have that conversation based on you know,

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Speaker 1: what l s you brings to the table. But if

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Speaker 1: you are part of any other conference, you have to

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Speaker 1: be absolutely sick of that. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: not the conference champion. I think that. I mean, we've

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Speaker 1: lived this, we know that that's true. Yeah, Alabama wasn't

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Speaker 1: the conference champion and then went on to go win

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. So the committee has to decide

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Speaker 1: what is more important because schedules have to matter. They

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Speaker 1: have to and that's why it's imperative that L s

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Speaker 1: any conversation of them getting in has to be gone

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Speaker 1: so right, So right now, if you missed it, you're

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. I'm sorry. The college Football Power rankings

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Speaker 1: look a lot like my college football Top ten, as

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Speaker 1: it should be. I gave you guys that earlier in

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Speaker 1: in the week. But here's the college you guys can

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Speaker 1: go visit the look at that at unafraid show dot

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Speaker 1: com comes out every Sunday morning, and you guys, this

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Speaker 1: is the Pac twelve apostles. Make sure you guys share

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Speaker 1: the feed to feed tell a friend about the Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve apostles. So the college football Playoff rankings from the

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Speaker 1: committee has Ohio State one, same way I have it,

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, they have Baylor, who's undefeated at number twelve,

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Speaker 1: But they're still ranked ahead of them, confusing to me.

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Speaker 1: independent from the rankings altogether. See, it was very independent

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Speaker 1: on Chris Peterson and that they might be able to

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Speaker 1: do better. Right, That's the ultimate point here. And I

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Speaker 1: still feel like I want to vehemently disagree. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, I do. I do too. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who they get, that's for sure better, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: what the them being competitive and in the mix every

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Speaker 1: year right now? Um, They're best talent season being a

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00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: year that they went six and six. If I'm not mistaken,

436
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Speaker 1: they had like three or four first round picks that year.

437
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: Like they have a reputation right now amongst recruit they have,

438
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter. None of that stuff matters to

439
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 1: these kids, none of it. They are recruiting like crazy

440
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Speaker 1: all over the place. I don't I still look at

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Speaker 1: them as the team that went on and twelve every

442
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: two because they went on and twelve. I'm never gonna

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Speaker 1: forget that. Never imagine to imagine anybody in the Pact

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Speaker 1: twelve going on like if I'm gonna I'm telling you

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00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: right now, if Jonathan, if Jonathan Smith turns Oregon State

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Speaker 1: into a team that is in the top twenty five

447
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: for five or six straight years, and at the end

448
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: of that sixth year, you go on message boards and

449
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, but he's two and four against Stanford.

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Speaker 1: But he has a hard time winning on the road

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Speaker 1: in Arizona. But their best out of conference wins are Illinois,

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Speaker 1: Rutgers or whatever. Five or six years from now, I'm

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00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: still gonna be like, yeah, but but they won like

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Speaker 1: an average three games a season over a four year span. Still,

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Speaker 1: so I'm pictas though, are different at Oregon State than Washington. No,

456
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: but because of Chris Peterson elevated those expectations. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. That's all that I'm trying to point out

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Speaker 1: is that, like you were expecting a guy to do

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Speaker 1: better when he's the one that set the bar. So

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Speaker 1: what gives you the right? What gives you the right

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Speaker 1: to expect anything more from the person who raised your expectations?

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Speaker 1: And that was the So that was the thing that

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Speaker 1: Arizona State firing Todd Graham, right, is uh, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: Todd Graham went to five Bowl games in six years

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Speaker 1: when Dennis Ericsson had had like one winning season in

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Speaker 1: his five years of the program, and then all of

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00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, Ray Anderson athletic directors like we

468
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Speaker 1: we gotta get you know, more competitively consistent, we gotta

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Speaker 1: do better, and and and just my immediate thought was like,

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Speaker 1: but he set that standard. He did, so what are

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Speaker 1: you talking about? And here in Arizona State is you know,

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Speaker 1: back to being semi um semi mediocre. The future is

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Speaker 1: bright down here. But like it just it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where it's like, Okay, you're gonna victimize coaches

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00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: for for building, for for taking you part of the way.

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Speaker 1: And I get that, right, It's a tale as old

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Speaker 1: as time. It's biblical. You know, Moses people wandered the

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Speaker 1: desert and Moses never got to see the Promised Land.

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00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: It was his brother that took him there. Right, So

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00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: that's that's a tailor as old as time. Like you

481
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Speaker 1: have some people who can take you part of the way,

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Speaker 1: and then you have to have somebody else take you

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. I get that, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that can happen at Washington because in

485
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Speaker 1: my mind they are still that team that was just

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00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, they obviously they had their era and then

487
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: it went away, and now Chris Peterson is there, and

488
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: they're they're competitive in every game, They're they're consistently talented. Um,

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Speaker 1: they've got first round picks every single year, they're recruiting

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Speaker 1: really really well. Um, they've played in a you know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, I can't make a better case

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Speaker 1: than obviously these Reddit posts make a very compelling argument.

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Speaker 1: But who's going to go in and do better? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would totally agree. I think that they would be

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Speaker 1: in a situation. Well, the only the person who would

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Speaker 1: come in and take that job in a heartbeat is

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Speaker 1: came from the same place that that Chris Peterson left.

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Speaker 1: That's Brian Harrison at St. David. I mean, think think

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Speaker 1: about who would take that Either him or you could

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Speaker 1: probably poach Justin Wilcox from from cal Okay. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he'd have to have some dynamic people

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Speaker 1: underneath him. As far as a staff, I feel like

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Speaker 1: he'd he'd be very similar. Um, he's got a little

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Speaker 1: bit less personality, and I think part of why they

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Speaker 1: recruit so well as he's just got a staff filled

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Speaker 1: with people who kind of supplement his personality. Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's very possible. That would be And

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Speaker 1: then what would cal do They just trade Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: that would be yeah yeah instead of fire coach, just

510
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Speaker 1: just trade them to Sin send the salaries all of that. Um.

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Speaker 1: The last thing is very a very serious thing going

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Speaker 1: on in the pack Pack Pack twelve. John Wilner wrote

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Speaker 1: and wrote an article. So everybody's been talking about Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve expansion, Pack twelve expansion, and um, you know about

515
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Speaker 1: bringing in Boise State other teams out of the Mountain

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Speaker 1: West Conference or the UM or the other conferences around.

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Speaker 1: But truth be told, what's actually going on is if

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a situation to where the Pack twelve

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00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: may actually be retracting because these conferences only got bigger

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00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: because of TV deals. The TV deals needed more inventory,

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Speaker 1: they needed more games for the a SEC network, Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve network, SEC network, all of it. They needed more

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Speaker 1: teams for them, so the conferences got bigger. So now

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Speaker 1: really what they want to do is create better content

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Speaker 1: and really creating one super conference or two super conferences,

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Speaker 1: almost like an NFL model. So imagine this taking to

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Speaker 1: the top whoever they deemed the top thirty teams, so

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Speaker 1: you would probably out of the SEC you would get

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Speaker 1: the five teams that are ranked right now. You would

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Speaker 1: get Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida and Alabama. Oh and wait

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Speaker 1: now L s U. Well, Alabama, L s U, Florida, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and aubur That's who you would probably get out of there.

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Speaker 1: Then out of the a SEC, you would get Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Florida State, Miami, and maybe one other team. Out of

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Speaker 1: the Big twelve, you could get you know, Texas, Texas

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Speaker 1: and m who's got more money than anybody really and

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Speaker 1: who who would buy their buy their way in? And

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Speaker 1: you would get Oklahoma obviously. So that it trickled all

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00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: the way down to the to the other conferences, and

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Speaker 1: people were saying, okay, who could get in this from

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Speaker 1: the pack twelve? What teams would be moved the needle

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Speaker 1: enough that you would have thirty teams or so in

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Speaker 1: one conference or two conferences that would play each other

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Speaker 1: every single week. And they they speculated in the article

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Speaker 1: about that USC would get in obviously they're the most

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Speaker 1: story team in the pack pack twelve. Who else could

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Speaker 1: get in? Name brand team, big name team, basketball history,

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Speaker 1: U C L A. And then from there the most popular,

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Speaker 1: one of the most popular teams in the country amongst

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Speaker 1: recruits and all that stuff. You got Oregon, so they

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Speaker 1: would probably get in as well, and then Washington could

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00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: could get in, and then the Pack twelve would retract

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Speaker 1: down to eight team eaves or you or even if

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Speaker 1: all those teams didn't get in, who do you think

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Speaker 1: would be on the outside? Look at it, bro I

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Speaker 1: don't know. This all sounds like Premier league sense to me,

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00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: or that or that you know, premier team would be

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Speaker 1: defined as the amount of money that you get in

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Speaker 1: your next apparel be like what your brand equity is.

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Speaker 1: Um gosh, I don't know. Because the way that the

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00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Pack plays now you know Conference of champions right, Um,

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Speaker 1: you have you have schools that are sort of the

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: corner zone of this conference that if you're most is

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00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: a football and you'd be confused about like Oregon State

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00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: is one of the most influential schools in this conference

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Speaker 1: as far as the president, as the power that the

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Speaker 1: Apple has and a lot of it's just that the

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Speaker 1: fact that you know they're women's basketball, baseball, basketball, other sports.

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Speaker 1: They're very petitive in those things. Um, national would this

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Speaker 1: be completely football driven? I guess it's my question because

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, then you know it's going to

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Speaker 1: be so there definitely part of it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if if it's if it's just sports in general, you know,

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Speaker 1: then you have seems like Stanford, who you know, win

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Speaker 1: championships in sports that I've never witnessed live and uh, yes, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm not sure. I think this whole

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Speaker 1: concept is so foreign to me that I wouldn't really

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00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: know what of those things because they didn't understand it.

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Speaker 1: It can even be a better idea, but it's it

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Speaker 1: leaves me that, you know, Michael Scott's in the office

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Speaker 1: position of saying like, because I'm just not sure how

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Speaker 1: necessary it is. I'm not sure how necessary compenses are

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Speaker 1: ultimately be when everyone is going to have the ability

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Speaker 1: to broadcast on their own. You know, if you take,

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Speaker 1: if you take the income that comes at your school

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Speaker 1: and you invest in building your own cast department, and

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00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: you decide that you want to stream your games on

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00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: face with the way that Hawaii does, what's to stop

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00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: you from then just ultimately be independent and not having

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Speaker 1: to share revenue with with anybody. Yeah, I think it'd

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Speaker 1: be tough, man, I think that it would be tough

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Speaker 1: to narrow it down. But obviously brand matters, and and

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Speaker 1: if you were to retract what they were tracked just

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Speaker 1: for football, what they were tracked for whatever, because there

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Speaker 1: would be so much more money available for those teams

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Speaker 1: if it were just those teams. I mean, that's Do

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Speaker 1: you think there should be more of that? Do you

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Speaker 1: think that there should be more of of conference specific

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00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: sports specifiliation? So like, I'm in the Pac twelve for

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Speaker 1: the sport, but I'm in the Mountain West for this.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there should be more? I think that

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00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: would make things more competitive, for sure. But but but

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Speaker 1: the confusion in it would get would get crazy, especially

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Speaker 1: when it comes to generating revenue. Who's in, who's out?

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Speaker 1: You know, who makes the playoffs who doesn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're you're getting a situation, situation where conferences would then

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Speaker 1: want to relegate teams who are not producing, who are

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Speaker 1: not earners, because at the end of the day, you

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Speaker 1: have to earn your keep in conferences, that's the entire point.

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Speaker 1: But you could do that. You could have let's say

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Speaker 1: you took the Mountain West and maybe brought the whackback

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Speaker 1: or something like that. Top Whack team moves into the

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Speaker 1: West Tist team moves into the next twelve and you

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Speaker 1: drop the bottom out of you know, you're you're two

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00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: and twelve football team, and they had a year to

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Speaker 1: go down to the Mountain West and see if they

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00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: can claw their way back in. That would add some

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00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: entry to it, but obviously then you know, they're not

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Speaker 1: funding that those teams would be in out of the

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Speaker 1: bottom of that twelve. We never agreed to it because

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Speaker 1: it would affect the thing that matters most, which is

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Speaker 1: the money. That oh for sure, for sure percent agree

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Speaker 1: with that. Now we can get into the games around

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Speaker 1: we get into the games. Um, so we have some

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00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: very very excuse me, we have some very very intriguing

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00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: games this weekend. So we do have a game on ABC,

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Speaker 1: a game on Fox Sports, and two games on Pack

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00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: twelve network. Only four games again this weekend. It is

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Speaker 1: extremely interesting. The most interesting game of the week this

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Speaker 1: weekend is the Washington Huskies at Oregon State. They have

631
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Speaker 1: to travel to Salad Bowl Stadium Research Stadium in Corvallis,

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00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Washington is really they have lost back to back games. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: they are the top ten teams Oregon in Utah, but

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00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: they've fallen apart they're sitting at five and four. Confidence

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00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: can't be very high. And I and at Oregon State

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00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: has been playing very very well. They are second in

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Speaker 1: the back twelve north. Unbelievably, they're sitting get four and four.

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Speaker 1: Maybe going to a ball game. I can see a

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00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: scenario where there is an upset here. Ralph, I don't

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Speaker 1: state your case. Maybe you can talk me into I

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Speaker 1: I currently do not see a path for Oregon State

642
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: to be Washington. I think that the you know, the office,

643
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: the big was, you know, and the evening behind the curtain,

644
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: you know. I think that that the eccess is a

645
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: little bit of of an illusion because any oh, well,

646
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: I wonder why this is something hold on close A

647
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 1: couple want to see if that's the case, Ralph, you're

648
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: breaking up too bad to get your okay, um, I

649
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: mean you would have to state your case, George, because

650
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I think that, you know, it's

651
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: like a Wizard of Oze type situation where you know,

652
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: the big giant head is the is the offense, you know,

653
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: but the man behind the curtain is that that defense

654
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: that hasn't really been able to stop anybody. If you

655
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: can get two or three stops in one half against

656
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: Oregon State, you can build up a couple of touchdown lead.

657
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Then you can turn them into a one dimensional offense,

658
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: pin your ears back and go after Jake Luton. Um.

659
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: They're just not enough teams in this conference that defensively

660
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: have the ability to stop Oregon State. I think that

661
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: Washington has that ability, So I don't I don't see

662
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Oregon State is a threat to Washington. If they are,

663
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be an issue. Maybe I'll be jumping

664
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: on Reddit and joining some of those um some of

665
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: those posters being upset with Chris Peterson. But to me,

666
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: this feels like a two touchdown Washington win. UM. I

667
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: do not see a path for for Oregon State to

668
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: be uh to be upsetting Washington and this game. Artavius

669
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Pierce rush for a hunter and fourteen yards the last game.

670
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I do think Washington wins

671
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: this game, but I can see a scenario where their

672
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: morale is down. Mind you, Washington has outscored opponents a

673
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: hundred and three to thirteen in the first quarter that

674
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: includes Oregon and UH Utah. So I do agree that

675
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Washington can jump up, but they're playing on the road.

676
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: They're five and four. Morale is going to be naturally

677
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: down a little bit because remember, fans thought that this

678
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: team was could be a college football playoff team and

679
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: was for sure gonna win the conference with Jacob Eason.

680
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: That has not materialized, and and that means that players

681
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: believe that as well. So when you started getting that

682
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: sort of thing to happen, and then Oregon State's confidence

683
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: is on max, They're looking at this like, hold up,

684
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: we can make a bowl game. We have four games

685
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: to play. We can make a bowl game, and and

686
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: we may be able to spoil somebody else's life. So

687
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: you got our Tavis Parister Mark Jefferson both went over

688
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: a hunre yards the last last game. We both know

689
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: how we feel about Isaiah Hodgens, who even against Utah

690
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: was having a good game. He just they just stopped throwing,

691
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, took him out of the game, all

692
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: of that stuff, because he had a good first first half.

693
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: They scored fifty six points against Arizona. But Arizona's defense

694
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: is horrible. Washington secondary is extremely young. Their their tackles

695
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: haven't been playing all that great. Uh. You you you

696
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: have Hammel car Verschad who's leading the conference and sex

697
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: I think with twelve or twelve and a half. So

698
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: that's the dangerous thing. Jacob Eeson likes to just continue

699
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: to drop back instead of step up in the pocket.

700
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: Did do that? Did you used to play technobile when

701
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: you were younger? Yes? Yeah? Do you know how he

702
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: takes Techmobile drops where the quarterback just drops back forever

703
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: and ever and ever and they can throw it as

704
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: far as he wants to. That's what jacob Eeson does

705
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: or maddened two thousand four, Michael Vick drops because his

706
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: throwing arm was a nine and he could outrun everybody.

707
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, so you could just drop him back twenty

708
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: yards to throw a five yard screen pass. You can't

709
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: do that against Hamil Car you cannot. He he's just

710
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: a different level of athletes. As a pass rusher, he

711
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You have to be disciplined. You

712
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: have to step up in the pocket. Don't get yourself

713
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: hurt because that's a backing up like that. Your momentum

714
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: is already carrying backwards if somebody gets ahold of you

715
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: like there's a reason Kevin Cobbs NFL career did not

716
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: last because he was a talented quarterback who you know

717
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: you managed to get himself hurt a couple of times. Um.

718
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: Uh that that to me is the one big danger. Uh.

719
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: Is is Jacob Eston putting himself in a position to

720
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: not be able to finish the game because he doesn't

721
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: trust the system that has been in place in football

722
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: for as long as the forward pass has been there,

723
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: that the pocket forms around you and you need to

724
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: step up and make a play instead of trying to

725
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, be a hero and do it all on

726
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: your own. Um. Other than that, I mean, maybe they

727
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: don't even throw the ball at all, just run the

728
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: ball all over this Oregon State defense. Um. And you

729
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: know Oregon State's offense is really good and you can't

730
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: let them hang around. But this is still you know,

731
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: they have a common opponent right in Hawaii. UM. I

732
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: think that you draw from that and realize that what

733
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: you did to beat the tar out of Hawaii, you

734
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: can also employ to beat the tar out of Oregon State. Yeah.

735
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: This feels so weird to me. I mean, I Washington,

736
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: It's like the PAC twelve power rankers when we talked

737
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: about this week that we have to stop wanting teams

738
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: to be good because um, I was looking at Ryan

739
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 1: Leef put out his Pack twelve Top twelve. He had

740
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Washington State three, Washington four, and I asked him straight up,

741
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: I was like, how does this make make sense? You

742
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: have a team that's one and four in the conference

743
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: and the team that's two and four in the conference

744
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: at number three, at number four in the Pac twelve

745
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: Power racers. How is this even possible? He was like,

746
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: You're probably right. I mean, because we want them to

747
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: be better, yea, we want them to be better than

748
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: they than they are. So with that being said, this

749
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: is the same case here Oregon States trending in the

750
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: right direction. Trending in the right direction. Chris Peterson's team, Um, yes,

751
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: they have a bunch of talented players. They are Uh

752
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: they may get Pouka Noooma back, um uh Andre, But

753
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: but Shell has been doing a better better job you have.

754
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: You know, some of their young guys are showing up,

755
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: not just not just you know Aaron Fuller, who's a

756
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: senior they got terrelled buying him, who's been showing up.

757
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: The running backs have been nowhere to be found really

758
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: the last couple couple of weeks. But I just don't

759
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: see it, Rob, I just don't see dominance out of

760
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: this team. Obviously. I think that they're well, they're well coached.

761
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: They just maybe this is a year where they're just

762
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: short on talent. I don't know what else to say.

763
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, yeah, they've they've graduated a lot

764
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: of really, really good players, but they've been reloading, you know,

765
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: and so it's time for it's time for some of

766
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: those players to step up. I think what they're missing is,

767
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of game breaking athletes. Um. You know,

768
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: next year we'll see how early Sam Adams Junior is

769
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: ready to make a contribution as a as a running back.

770
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, they need somebody who can, um, they need

771
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: somebody who can kind of be a little more of

772
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: a game breaker back there than what they've had. Um.

773
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. And then there's that whole

774
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: thing of how teams play after Now I'm talking to

775
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: myself into saying the Oregon State it's going to be

776
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: a threat. But but teams of the week after they

777
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: play Utah tend to be a little beat up. So

778
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, Oregon State's got that. And Washington, even though

779
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: they had a bye week, they played Oregon super physical

780
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: game off week, then you come back and play Utah

781
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: and then those bruises that were starting to hell get

782
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: rebruised up, including the the ego. Um. So right right now,

783
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: people have uh, the the pack twelve bowl games, going

784
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: to Order Rose Bowl, Alamo Bowle Holiday, Red Box sun Bowled,

785
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Bowl, Cheese It Bowl, and then an at

786
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: large bowl for a team who is six and six.

787
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: So provided let's just say Oregon does not make the

788
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff or you talk does does not, then

789
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: one of those two teams will go to the Rolls,

790
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: the other one will go to the Alamo Bow. And

791
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people are picking Washington to win their

792
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: last three games and end up in the Holiday Bowl.

793
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Do you think this is possible or do you think

794
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: that they will end up in the Red Box Bowl

795
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: because people have u c l a pick to go

796
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: to a bowl game. So mhm um, I mean yeah,

797
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: I Washington's at that point where like where if you're

798
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: if your only option is the Red Box Bowl, like

799
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: maybe you want to turn it down, like you don't

800
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: want it messing with your overall brand and and what

801
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: your reputation is. Um, but yeah, I think the Holiday Bowl.

802
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: Is is within reason? I think Washington fans that really

803
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: dig that. Yeah, Washington fans, but not dig being in

804
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: the red box ball Oregon. I mean no, I mean,

805
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean being able to go to San

806
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: Diego to the Holiday Bowl. Yeah, they would not. I

807
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: don't think they'd be happy to be playing. Isn't it

808
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: isn't a red box bowler or that. That's the game

809
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: that Oregon played in last year against Michigan State seven

810
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: to six. That's very red box bowled. Um. They have

811
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: USC and the Sun Bowl, Stanford in the Las Vegas Bowl,

812
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: the Cheese It Bowl, with Arizona State and then Washington

813
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: State going at large. See here is the problem with

814
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: this ice. I see here. Remember when the guy put

815
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: out the pack twelve mock simulation with every team finishing

816
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: five and four or four and five in the conference.

817
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: That's where Yeah, if you take out Oregon and you talk,

818
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now. You have Oregon State,

819
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: who's four and four, and two and three, Colorado three

820
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: and six, one in five if they win a game,

821
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: col four and four, Arizona four and five, Washington State

822
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: four and four, Arizona State five and three, Stanford four

823
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: and four, USC five and four, U c l A

824
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: four and five, Washington five and four. Dude, you could

825
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: have every team in the conference friend to finish six

826
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: and six, mate basically except four you taw in Oregon.

827
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: That would be the most incredible thing ever that the

828
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: facts above has tin Bowl eligible teams, all of them

829
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: six and six. Yeah, that would not be incredible because

830
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: we'd be complaining about how there's just like rampant mediocrity,

831
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: and Larry Scott would be like ten bowls just like

832
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: he did, just like he did when nine nine teams

833
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: made a Bowl and and only one of them won

834
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: a game, and he said, it's not whether you win

835
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: or lose, it's like getting to the bowl. That's the point,

836
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: you know that was that was like the worst spin

837
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: of all time. But like, yeah, that would just give

838
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: him another reason to say it's not whether you win it,

839
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: win or lose, it's how you play the game. Yeah, okay,

840
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: you okay, let me know how that works out for you, buddy.

841
00:52:52,200 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Um cal I'm sorry. Stanford goes to Colorado. Okay, Colorado

842
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: has already want to know this week? Oh yeah, Colorado,

843
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: and they already got their way Antonio Antonio Alfano Rivals

844
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: number five player in the class of nineteen, the number

845
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: one defensive tackle in the nation out of New Jersey.

846
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: He spent a couple of months at Alabama before deciding

847
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't the right fit for him. Mel Tucker managed

848
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: to earn his commitment. He'll be enrolling in January, and

849
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have a five star defensive

850
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: tackle who's going to be playing in Boulder. Um. So

851
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: what a huge surprise. What a giant recruiting win for

852
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: mel Tucker. You know. So I think that they're already

853
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: the fan base will excuse them losing the Stanford this

854
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: week because that they already got about as a big,

855
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: big of a win as they could possibly have, which

856
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: is two weeks in a row of pulling a really

857
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: talented recruit, UM two Boulder maybe something special. Yeah, And

858
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: then he got Brandon in the Rice to commit and

859
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: there and here's I've noticed this with recruits. They either

860
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: go one of two directions. They either go and follow.

861
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: They either go to a team that is winning and

862
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: being dominant and has a ton of momentum, or a

863
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: team where they're like, hold up, this roster is super thin.

864
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: I can get on the field a sap because I'm

865
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: better than whoever they have there. And I think that

866
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: that's the Mail Tucker effect that that's going on right now.

867
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: Players see opportunity, they're like, listen, I think he's gonna

868
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: be a really good coach. I can go there and

869
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: play right now and dominate again while all the rest

870
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: of these yahoo's are going to you know, Oregon, usc

871
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: uh where wherever and having to sit behind people and

872
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: all deep on the depth chart. Yeah, it's one of

873
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: the situations, Like you mean to tell me I can

874
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: have a sec to aout an sec environment, like without

875
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: all of the madness and all of the pressure. Sign

876
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: me up, Like you know, I'll go play from Melt

877
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: Tucker and Boulder, Colorado. Why not? And that's a I

878
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: don't know that. You know, I'm not somebody who got

879
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: a chance to see Alfano play at the high school level.

880
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: I get. I usually get to see most of these

881
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: kids in action at different rivals camps all over the country. Um,

882
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: but you know this is somebody who the staff believed

883
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: in enough to jump up seventeen spots in their last

884
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: rankings that they did for the twenty nineteen class he

885
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: was somebody that was ranked in the mid twenties, and

886
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: they bumped him all the way up to the number

887
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: five recruiting the whole country, number one defensive tackle. Um,

888
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: and so somebody believes in him. Somebody believes that he's

889
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: got a ton of talent. Uh. And you know, I

890
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: think that seven might have had him as the number

891
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: one recruit in the whole country regardless of position. This

892
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: is huge, Like, make no mistake, this is this is

893
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: enormous um for Alorado. And maybe maybe they gives them

894
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: a little juice going into this weekend. What do you

895
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: think I mean? I guess it might. But this is

896
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: a team that's that everybody has as the worst team

897
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: in the PACTUAL right now. They are spiraling in the

898
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: wrong direction in terms of did you see somebody tweeted

899
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: that in the last three years after their Arizona State

900
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: game they're a total of four team. Oh yet, dude,

901
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: they have yet to win after playing Arizona State in

902
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: the last three years. Think about this. They are Oh

903
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: they went oh and seven after starting five and old

904
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: last year. This year they may lose eight straight games,

905
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: eight straight games. We thought the O N seven was

906
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: bad last year, they may lose eight straight games this year.

907
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: That would be atrocious scoring defense. The only team worse

908
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: than them is is Arizona right now, to give it

909
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: up thirty four to half points a game. Their rush

910
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: defense is they're giving up a hundred and sixty four

911
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: yards a game. They're total defense second worst in the

912
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: conference only by one yard is Arizona worst. This is

913
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: not a football too. It's weird because in a lot

914
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: of the stack categories, aside from past defense, which they're

915
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: dead last, they are the This Colorado team is really

916
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: just like they are middle of the road, the middle

917
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: of the road, passing the ball, middle of the road

918
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of. In some defensive categories, total offense, they're a

919
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: middling team, but they are. When you add up to

920
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: sum total of all that middle and a couple of bottoms,

921
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: it puts them dead dead last. And I'm wondering if

922
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: it's effort. They don't know how to win. And I

923
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: think that Mail Tucker has to get new guys in

924
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: because these guys even that that, yes, they have some

925
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: some talent at positions, truth be told, they're just not

926
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: as competitive in terms of the whole team. You add

927
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: them all up, they're not as competitive as you need

928
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: a team to be. Yeah, and I'm part of it,

929
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: I think is they were recruiting well in certain pockets,

930
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: Like they get like four or five really good players

931
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: from Texas and the Mike McIntire era era, and then

932
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: try to fill in the rest with just you know,

933
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: um some some two three star talent from around Colorado,

934
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: maybe California or know that or whatever. You know. They um,

935
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: they weren't even recruiting Arizona all that much. And it's

936
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: right there, like they you know, they would get like

937
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: they would get a couple of really good pieces, um,

938
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: but offensive and defensive line was a struggle for them.

939
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: You know, they landed a couple of decent tight ends,

940
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: but they still haven't used the tight end in years

941
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: for some reason. Um. So I don't know, it's it's

942
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 1: you know, I think that they were trying to build

943
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: from the out side in get some talented skill position

944
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: players and then everything else will you know, well will

945
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: come along. But that's not football and it never will

946
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: be you know, until we have seven on seven replaced

947
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: football completely. You're gonna need people on the offensive and

948
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: defensive line to anchor what it is you're trying to

949
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: do and I think I think mel Tucker knows that,

950
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: and I think that they're going about this a little

951
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: bit different and uh and they got a huge piece

952
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: to the puzzle in Antonio Alfano. Um. But yeah, are

953
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: they equipped to beat Stanford if Stanford is healthy at

954
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback position? No? Right, yes, yes, Stanford has been

955
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: the ten straight bowl games. You could actually pencil David

956
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: Shaw in for nine wins a season. He's not gonna

957
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: get to nine. Well, he might get the nine win

958
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: if if he wins out this year, but he's got

959
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: at Colorado, at Washington State, Notre Dame, CAL, and then

960
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Notre Dame to finish the season. So I'm sitting there like, okay,

961
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: like what does this mean for Like, is there anyway

962
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: that Cal missing I'm sorry that Stamford misses a bowl

963
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: game with that schedule left. I don't know, But I

964
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: don't know if this team deserves to go to have

965
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: fun in Vegas. I don't know if they deserve that reward. Like,

966
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll probably get the same amount of fans. Okay, yeah, Will, Will,

967
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: Will Camera and Scarlet go for over a hundred yards

968
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: in this game. Yes, barely, barely Okay, okay, oh oh

969
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: we didn't we didn't even collect clarify. Who are you

970
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: picking in the Washington Oregon State game? Oh, Washington, but

971
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: at least two touchdown win? Oh god, I'm I'm picking

972
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: the Beavers with an upset. Oh damn. Okay, yeah, I

973
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: think you're going to look like a genius if it happens. Yeah,

974
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: I think that what Washington is the better team, but

975
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: they're headed in the wrong direction right now. At think

976
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: this could this has trap game written all over. Okay,

977
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: who are you picking Stanford Colorado? I'm picking Stanford. I

978
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: don't I think that picking Colorado for the rest of

979
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: the season, it would be a sign of um mental illness,

980
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: Like they just haven't stopped anybody. Um, I don't think

981
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna start now. And even when you get good Montes,

982
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: they're losing. Like I love good Montes, like he puts

983
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: up NFL numbers, um within an NFL body. But you know,

984
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: then you get games like last week where he just

985
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: h So you know, I just I don't think that Stanford. Um,

986
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way Stanford loses this game.

987
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: So I'm going with Cardinal. I totally agree with you.

988
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: I can't see a situation aside from injury to k J. Costello,

989
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: which could happen, Um, that they lose this game. Um. Yeah,

990
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: so I want Mail Tucker to do well. I think

991
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: it's good for the conference when there is you know,

992
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: when the teams are respected, even if they're even if

993
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: they're losing. Uh, next game up. I guess you can

994
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: call this the tarmac game because USC. So the last

995
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: time USC had a coach who got fired, Lane Kiffin,

996
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: it was well, actually no Castark. Stark got fired in

997
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: in between what but Sark was drunk at the Arizona

998
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: State game. So that that's very true. So Arizona State

999
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: has been the has been the straw that broke the

1000
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: camel's back for the last what three airs, the last

1001
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: three USC coaches, including Lane Kiffin who got fired on

1002
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: the tarmac, who didn't even get to ride the team

1003
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: bust back home. Um, so what do you do? I mean,

1004
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: USC clearly has a talented roster. They're headed. They don't

1005
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: know who the A D is gonna be. There is

1006
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: so much I don't even know how you play in

1007
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: this environment. Because Clay Helton is clearly because he's a

1008
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: try hard guy. He's not gonna quit. He's a fighter.

1009
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: You gotta give him that. But how much fight Canes

1010
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: team have left after the clubbing Oregon put on him?

1011
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: After all the rumors about Clay Helton's job, I mean,

1012
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: how do you function in this? It's toxic? Yeah, uh,

1013
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: this is I mean, I know the Arizona State is

1014
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: relishing the opportunity to to free USC from their burden

1015
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,479
Speaker 1: another time. Um. I don't know if it happens like that,

1016
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: because it's one of those things where while then if

1017
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: you're going to fire him without an a D in place,

1018
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: why would you not have just already done it? Um?

1019
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: But it's possible. I mean that second half against Oregon,

1020
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: that's not what you want to see if if you're

1021
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: if you're a USC fan, Um, ever, right, and if

1022
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: that happens against if that happens against Oregon State, or

1023
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: if that happens against Arizona State, I apologize. And it

1024
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: happens back to back weeks, I mean, I think you

1025
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: have to make a move because you risk the players

1026
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: just sort of outright quitting. You risk the commitments from

1027
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: the players that are already you know, even though there's

1028
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: not a lot of players that have committed to them

1029
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: that have a ton of other options, because that's how

1030
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: far USC has fallen in the recruiting game, at least

1031
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: in the last twelve and fourteen months. Um, would you

1032
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: would you find if if Arizona State wins this game

1033
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: by double digits, would you fire him? Regardless of your

1034
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: athletic department situation? Who can fire him? Is the question? Right?

1035
01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: What a weird verse? Who actually has Yeah? I think

1036
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: they're they're screwed. They're screwed. They're screwed, right, So if

1037
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: they lose this game, you have December signing days coming up,

1038
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: and like what four weeks you're you're not gonna be

1039
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: able to salvage that. So you have to like eat

1040
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: a messed up early signing day for the class, and

1041
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: pickings are picking to our slim after the early signing

1042
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: signing day, like aside from a couple of big name kids.

1043
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, USC didn't sign a five star last year

1044
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: for the first time and for forever, and then they

1045
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: got Brew McCoy to transfer in, so I guess that

1046
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: salvage that. But this this year they're not looking like

1047
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to sign any five stars. But

1048
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: Arizona State on the other end, um I talked about

1049
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: it in the pack to our power rankings. Are not

1050
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: afraid Joe that they look like a team that hit

1051
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: the rookie wall, the college version of the Ricky wall.

1052
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: So when kyleege in the pros, the rocky wall is

1053
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: when teams when when young players, particularly rookies, who haven't

1054
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: played as many games, because they think about it, you

1055
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: only played twelve weeks. In twelve games in college, you

1056
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: have two bye weeks usually throughout the season. NFL there

1057
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: is four preseason games, twelve games, and you get one

1058
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: bye week. So by the time you've played eight games

1059
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you have already played an entire college

1060
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: season and you still got eight more games to go,

1061
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: plus potentially playoffs. So that's where Ricky's usually hit the wall,

1062
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: and Arizona State hit that wall because they're playing a

1063
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: ton of freshman and now after a week off, I

1064
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: think Herman is going to have those guys refreshed, Their

1065
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: minds are gonna be better, and this is going to

1066
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: be a dangerous game. This is a timing thing for USC,

1067
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: and timing is not good. Maybe maybe I mean it

1068
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: is an intriguing game. I'll give you that one thing

1069
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: that Arizona State struggles with his accurate quarterbacks. You know,

1070
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna find a more accurate passer than Keaton Slovis. Um,

1071
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: it's a what what had happened to those d dbs

1072
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: you were talking about? Um? The defensive line happened to them?

1073
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: You can, you can cover someone for six seconds, but

1074
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: you get the second number seven? What are you gonna do?

1075
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the burden of any defensive

1076
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: back anywhere. Uh. You know, the defensive line just isn't

1077
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: getting a ton of pressure. They've they've feasted on quarterbacks

1078
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: who aren't necessarily known for their accuracy. But then look

1079
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: at look what Dorian Thompson Robinson did against it. He's

1080
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: not an accurate quarterback, but he had all day. He

1081
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: had all day, and all of a sudden he looks

1082
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: like an NFL prospect. So you know it's they're missing

1083
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: the one key element to make their defense truly good,

1084
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: which is the ability to get to the quarterback the

1085
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: line there, they haven't really be and blitzing their linebackers

1086
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: as much or as effectively as they did last year

1087
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: with Merlin Robertson and um, you know, he's kind of

1088
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: had a lull, like a sophomore slump a little bit. Um.

1089
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting for me about this game, besides just

1090
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: the history of USC coaches getting fired after you know,

1091
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: their encounters with Arizona State is uh. USC traditionally comes

1092
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: into Sun Devil Stadium and beats the hell out of

1093
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: a s U, and they get it done early, like

1094
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: first half blowout, and then you know, just coast the

1095
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: rest of the game. A SU has done most of

1096
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: their damage against USC recently at the Coliseum. UM. The

1097
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: quarterback battle is very intriguing because Jaden Daniels. I think

1098
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: that if he thought, and you know, I'm sure that

1099
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: there are people that will think I'm speaking out of

1100
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: turn on this, but trust me, I'm not. If Jaden

1101
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: Daniels thought that USC would have given him a fair

1102
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: shot as a quarterback, I think that he would have

1103
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:06,480
Speaker 1: consider seriously considered USC, seriously considered USC. Um Keetan Slovis

1104
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: is from fifteen miles from Arizona State University and a

1105
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: SU went out to see him twice and didn't offer

1106
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: USC did. So now you have two true freshmen going

1107
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: against each other that could have very easily been wearing

1108
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: the opposite uniforms but are not. So I think that

1109
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: that's intriguing. UM. For for this, you have obviously the

1110
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:34,919
Speaker 1: most talented receiving corps and maybe all of college football

1111
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: going up against two three year starters at defensive back

1112
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: and the third defensive back who was a former USC

1113
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: trojan in Jack Jones. I think that that's incredibly intriguing. Um.

1114
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: You have a team in USC that doesn't really run

1115
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: the ball versus a team that like has to run

1116
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 1: the ball to survive. Is Eno Benjamin one of his

1117
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 1: last opportunities to play in front of the home crowd. Um,

1118
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: Because I'm a positive that he doesn't want to take

1119
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 1: the same beating he got this year next year, so

1120
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be moving on. UM. And then you know,

1121
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: you've got Clay Hilton's not even coaching for his job.

1122
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: He's just sort of in a lame duck position versus uh,

1123
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: you know, versus Herm Edwards, who doesn't want to be

1124
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 1: sitting at five and five with a losing record in conference.

1125
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, in the middle of his second season, after

1126
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: all of that juice that came from you know, HBO

1127
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: and the Hots start to to to begin the season. Um,

1128
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: I think that this is an incredibly intriguing game. Uh,

1129
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely looking forward to it. Yeah, I am

1130
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: interested in his game as well. I on one On

1131
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: one hand, us is the more the Mortality team, Yes,

1132
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: I am. I am confused about how I feel about

1133
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: Keaton Keaton Slovus at this point. He threw the ball

1134
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: fifty seven times against Oregon, which is which is you know,

1135
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: if you have the confidence to throw the ball fifty

1136
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: seven times, and mind you, forty of them were in

1137
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: the first half, then okay, then you can be a guy.

1138
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 1: That's the first time they looked like an air raid team,

1139
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: like and they still didn't look like an air raid team,

1140
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 1: but that was the first time that you saw a

1141
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: little bit of that Graham Harrold stuff really come into play. Yeah,

1142
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: it was, but it wasn't very effective. I know that

1143
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: Oregon is a top ten I know the Oregon is

1144
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 1: the top ten ten team. But at the end of

1145
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: the day, though, like when you passed for what under

1146
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: like nine yards a nine yards per reception and you

1147
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: throw and the three interceptions were just bad. One one

1148
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: of them went off a guy, guy's hands off a

1149
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: kind of an airrand throw. And then the one that

1150
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 1: Brady Breeze was just that was a gimme, Like he

1151
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: just could have walked in the in the end zone

1152
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 1: after and yeah it they just weren't very pretty at all,

1153
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, so you're looking at him. He had a

1154
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: four point six average per reception. Per reception, Yeah, that

1155
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: means that it's even lower per per attempt. So, m

1156
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: he's a freshman. He's a freshman, Like, that's what people

1157
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: got to remember. Are you sold on him? Yeah? I am,

1158
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: because not only is he a freshman, and I want

1159
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: to remind you he played against one defense in all

1160
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: of high school, one defense that had Division one players

1161
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: on it. One so he played against keiy Ringo. Sounds

1162
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: so like that sounds like exactly exactly. Um. And then

1163
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: look what he's doing as a freshman in the back twelve,

1164
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: Like there are flashes from him where you say like,

1165
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is really a guy, you know,

1166
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: and how many people can you say that about as

1167
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: a as a freshman? You know, Um, at quarterback, that's

1168
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: really really tough. You know, most of the time you

1169
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: need a couple of years to to get into the mix.

1170
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: And I know that quarterbacks this day and age are

1171
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: just different because they got private training for you know,

1172
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: who knows how long. But you still like, it's still

1173
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: different when you're having to read a college defense and

1174
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: when you've got guys like Lucky Foe to you know,

1175
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: crushing you in the backfield and stuff like that. I

1176
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: do have confidence in Keeton Slovis. I think that he

1177
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: has proven already that he is a legitimate threat at

1178
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback position. Is he going to be the best

1179
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: quarterback on campus? Um? You know, I think next year

1180
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: will We'll see, We'll see, you know, how they go about,

1181
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, organizing that competition and and and all that.

1182
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think that at the end

1183
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: of this game, at the end of this U s

1184
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: C A s U game, I think it'll be fair

1185
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: to start making judgments on who has the better future

1186
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: hammer Jaden Daniels because it just came out that Jaden

1187
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: Daniels has had to scrambled more than any quarterback you

1188
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: all of college football. He's taken off fronting sixty five times,

1189
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: uh this year, which well, if he doesn't take off

1190
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: sixty five times, they don't win. That's just the truth.

1191
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: They might be. They might be defeated right now if

1192
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't take off running that much. The last game

1193
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: up in the pack twelve this week, Well, who's your

1194
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: Who are you picking? Lord? I'm picking? Ah. This is

1195
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: so tough. I think USC has one last stand for

1196
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: Clay Helton. I think, okay, I'm with you, I'm with you. Yeah, yeah,

1197
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: because the last few games from Arizona State have given

1198
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 1: me zero confidence. I know they're coming off of bybe,

1199
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: but I have zero confidence from what I've seen the

1200
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: last few weeks. Be impressive. If they want, even with

1201
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: all the distractions that because it would it would they'd

1202
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: be Bowl eligible. They'd be it would be the second

1203
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: time in two years. UM. It would be very very

1204
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: helpful for a s U trying to finish out their

1205
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: recruiting class, which is almost full anyway, especially with the

1206
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get an advantage in California, with

1207
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: all that uncertainty that's going on with USC for class.

1208
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: This is this game is so important to a s U,

1209
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: but I just don't know if they have what it takes.

1210
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:36,759
Speaker 1: USC's roster is outside of Keenan Slovi's USC's entire roster

1211
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: is literally players who who had a s U as

1212
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: their safety school. The USC's entire roster is like Lori

1213
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 1: Loughlin's daughters. That's funny that every single one of them.

1214
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: It's true though, it's true. Almost every USC player is like, man,

1215
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: if I can't get into USC, if there's not room

1216
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: for me in this recruiting class, I'm gonna go have

1217
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: a kick asked time for five years at a s

1218
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: U like that. And that's been true for like a decade,

1219
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: and a s U fans are getting absolutely sick to

1220
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: death of it. Like Drake Jackson, he's probably one of

1221
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: the best young defensive lineman in the country, and he

1222
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: wanted to go to US or you wanted to go

1223
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: to a s U, you know. He just wanted to

1224
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: go to a s U. And his dad was like,

1225
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: it's it's about It's all about USC, like that's where

1226
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: you need to be, and he at the last minute

1227
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: he decided to make his dad proud, and now he's

1228
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: out killing it for USC. And a s U fans

1229
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: are just they're sick to death of you know. And

1230
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: then you get the players that couldn't academically qualify or

1231
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: whatever at USC that that end up as a SU

1232
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: Sun that was like the Montes Perfects and and stuff

1233
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: like that. The a s U will you know, well,

1234
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: maybe not Montes, but a s U is always thankful

1235
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: when they get that opportunity. Um. But yeah, it's that's

1236
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: it's always been sort of the dynamic between a s

1237
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: U and USC is that USC is full of players

1238
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: who would have ended up at Arizona's, say, if there

1239
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: wasn't room for him in the in the recruiting class.

1240
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: Isaiah pull them aw is one of them. You know.

1241
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: It's and so um, it's one of those things where

1242
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: a SU sick of being the little brother and they

1243
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: need this win. But I'm just not sure they match

1244
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: up very well. I totally agree with you there. The

1245
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: last game up on the pack tail slate is what

1246
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: the Washington State cools, who may be out of a

1247
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: head coach soon and Cal, who is who has a

1248
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: quarterback problem still. Um, but I did hear through the

1249
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: grapevine that Cal had a come to Jesus meeting with

1250
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: their with their defense because they didn't feel like that

1251
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,520
Speaker 1: they performed very well against Utah in terms of toughness

1252
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: and the mentality that they love to show. So I

1253
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 1: think the cow defense against Washington State puts up a

1254
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: much better performance, much better. They are going to slow

1255
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: washing Shington State down. They're gonna slow this air raid down.

1256
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon is gonna be looking like he's stuck in mud.

1257
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: This is going to be a a smothering defensive per performance.

1258
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: But Washington States still gonna win. His ship. I was

1259
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: waiting for that. But but Washington State is still gonna win.

1260
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: They may win nineteen zero nineteen seven? Is it? So?

1261
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: I believe he is back. I know Garbers is still

1262
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: out for a little bit. My Garbers might make it

1263
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: back for the last two games against Stanford and U

1264
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: c l A. Maybe, Okay, Um, I don't think they'll

1265
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: get I do think that we saw positive strides from Monster.

1266
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: I think we saw the game slowdown for him a

1267
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: little bit. And I don't trust Washington State defense to

1268
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: shut out anybody. Um. I do like Washington State in

1269
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: this game. I'm super intrigued to buy it because this is,

1270
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, this is a great offensive scheme against you know,

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Speaker 1: players that you've been praising all year long as being

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Speaker 1: you know, some of the most talented defensive backs out there. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and we we watched what Anthony Gordon did

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Speaker 1: against Arizona State. You and I had a huge argument

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Speaker 1: about that. Um, you know, we we watched what Washington

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Speaker 1: State did against Oregon that you know, they're they they

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get their's and if they don't, then the

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Speaker 1: debate will be settled. Right if they don't, If they don't,

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Speaker 1: if if if, oh my god, if Washington State doesn't

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Speaker 1: go out and and throw for four hundred yards against Cal,

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Speaker 1: then it's debate over. We know who the best defensive backs,

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Speaker 1: who the best defensive backs coach, we know who the

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Speaker 1: best defensive coordinator. We know all that, right, So, uh,

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Speaker 1: this is probably the game that I'm most I'm most intriguing,

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Speaker 1: just because it's gonna settle the most uh of our

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01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 1: talking points and debate points from throughout the year. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there's no way, no way Cal gets shut out. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, they even defensively, maybe they score a touchdown

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Speaker 1: or two. But I do like Washington State and just

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Speaker 1: their sort of offensive relentlessness to kind of get it done,

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Speaker 1: um and maybe pull away in the fourth quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cal just can't score enough points to win this game. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's just not a scenario where they can score enough

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Speaker 1: points to win when this game is unfortunate. But these

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Speaker 1: are the realities of the situation. They just don't have

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Speaker 1: enough firepower offensively. And yes, Washington States defense is leaky,

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Speaker 1: but they're not leaky in I mean they are leaky

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Speaker 1: in the past defense I guess which which they can't do. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And in their run defense they are, oh well, their

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Speaker 1: rush defenses last in the conference hundred ninety three yards

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Speaker 1: of games. So I guess Cal if they can get

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Speaker 1: something going on the ground. But if you're Washington State,

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Speaker 1: you you do. You sell out to stop the run.

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Speaker 1: You sell out to stop the run and double dog

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Speaker 1: there and to throw it over your head. That's where

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Speaker 1: you're at right now. And I think Cal's in kind

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Speaker 1: of a cool position where like most college football teams are,

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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta win now, you gotta win now,

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Speaker 1: you gotta win now. I think that Cal fans and

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Speaker 1: the administration understand that they're building something and that they

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Speaker 1: have a huge infusion of offensive talent coming in in

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Speaker 1: this next recruiting class. Their current recruiting class that are

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Speaker 1: all freshmen there right now have have some talent. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the expect the high expectations have to

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Speaker 1: be put on them for next year. This is just

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Speaker 1: sort of a this is like a preview of like, uh,

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Speaker 1: this is troubleshooting. Twenty nineteen is a troubleshooting year for

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Speaker 1: Cal to go out there, figure what's wrong and make

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Speaker 1: sure that it's all in place to make a run

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Speaker 1: next year. Well, they've been made a Bowl game this year.

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Speaker 1: Had Garbers not gotten gotten hurt, they were four and

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Speaker 1: oh I review to believe that they would not have

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Speaker 1: won two more games at Garbers not been been hurt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just never want to be completely you know, they

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Speaker 1: want they want to be usc They want to be

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Speaker 1: able to lose a quarterback and still be able to win,

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Speaker 1: you know, three or four games with your with your backup,

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Speaker 1: even win a game with your third string if you

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Speaker 1: need to. And they're just not at that level yet.

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Speaker 1: But they're recruiting their way into it. I would agree

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Speaker 1: with that. So who are you picking in this game?

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Speaker 1: I'm Washington State winning winning late. Um, it could be

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Speaker 1: cool to see cow Gonta win. Just like that. The

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Speaker 1: Washington State could could score fourteen points and win this game.

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Speaker 1: That's how bad Cow's offenses and yeah, so this is

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Speaker 1: not going to be a shootout unless they double dog

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Speaker 1: their cow to throw it over the top and they

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Speaker 1: get some you know, some big touchdown passes or something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the only chance, all right. Yeah, so sorry. Even

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Speaker 1: even though even though Arizona State dropping the mid thirties

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Speaker 1: against Washington State, you really don't Arizona State is Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels at quarterback who can run and throw uh a

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Speaker 1: new point crazy that game broke tackles. They don't have

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Speaker 1: that at Cow. They don't have a No, Benjamin, you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: Christopher is a good good back. Um well, Chris Christopher

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Speaker 1: Brown good good back, but he's not in No, Benjamin,

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Speaker 1: you have to compare apples to apples, Ralph, You're you're

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Speaker 1: comparing you know, plumps plums to water. So but even

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Speaker 1: if foot that's so. Now that's what I'm watching for her.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see, if you if this offense can score

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Speaker 1: more than fourteen, If they can score more than fourteen

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Speaker 1: points against Washington State, Washingtons eight is the worst defense

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Speaker 1: in the Pack twelve even worked in Colorados. You guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us for the Pack twelve apostles.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, appreciate your energy. Um, you guys,

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Speaker 1: make sure you gotta share the fee. Tell a friend

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Speaker 1: about the pack twelve apostles and you guys send us

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Speaker 1: an email if you want to. I'm ad at Unafraid

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Speaker 1: show dot com. And uh, we will we we will

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Speaker 1: see if we can get Ralphe to finally pull the

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Speaker 1: projections and them and them standings back together, because I

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Speaker 1: think he's avoiding them for a reason. You know, I

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01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: think we're we're both in a pretty good position. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't like. I don't like to think. I

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Speaker 1: don't like to think back. I just like to be

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Speaker 1: hopeful for that. Yeah, exactly, because he knows I'm spiking

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Speaker 1: a football super hard. That is the big difference between us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is you. You will if you if you if

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Speaker 1: I beat you, If I go six, know and you

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Speaker 1: go and six, I'll be like, oh, you'll get him

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Speaker 1: next time, George. If you go four and three and

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Speaker 1: I go three and four, You're like, ah, you're terrible. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am like a football guy. It is in my DNA.

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Speaker 1: I cannot help you, you guys, piece out, Catch you

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Speaker 1: guys later.