1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rod Vat. We 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: show that makes the square sharper and makes the wise 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: guys pay attention all the year long. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: I am Chad Noman. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my co host, my companion, 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: my compadre, my BFF, professional better Simon Hunter, l O 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: sawim in Chad. 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: We were talking before it came on about how there's 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: just no upsets in college basketball and it's I'm not 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: gonna lie. 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 4: It's tough. 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: It's tough coming here today and we're about to talk 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: more college basketball. But yeahn I l it's killed what 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: I loved Cinderella stories. It's I I was trying to 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: explain to a kid, George Mason, and you know all 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: that hot hooplah and back in the day out we'd 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: always get these random teams that would make a run, 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: and it's just something's missing in college basketball right now. 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 4: We need those runs again. 21 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm just I had a fun weekend, but I am 22 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: like Matt Mitchell, I lost a ton of money, been 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: an underdogs and it was just all favorites this weekend. 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is the teams we will talk about 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: as being the underdogs that are exciting us. Are the Iowas, right, 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, do teams like that which 27 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: have always been considered good, not great historical schools, are 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: they becoming the vcus where you've got to get excited 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: about that kind of run to sort of capture that 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: magic Again, I agree with you, like I'd love to 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: see a high Point make it into the Sweet sixteen. 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: You'd love to see a VCU make it into the 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. Even a Utah State which looks so good 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: in the first round, you want to see them advanced 35 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: to the sweet sixteen. It's hard, It's really hard because 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: now you're going to get really top notch games and 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: top notch teams. And some of the games were exciting. 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Look Saint John's Kansas great game, right, there were like 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: really exciting games in the first two rounds. You're getting 40 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: these marquee blue bloods. But yeah, you're not getting that 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: that kid from the plucky school that all of a sudden, 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: for three weeks in March becomes a heroic story. 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: It is kind of a bummer. 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And just like the difference again, teams can keep 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: it close, but you really do notice that the athletic 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: difference and just the next level these guys go to 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: in the final five minutes, right like. 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: These really good teams. 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: It feels like in college basketball they can just flip 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: that switch at the very end of these games and 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: totally shut down the teams defensively and then offensively can 52 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 3: get any points they won. So yeah, obviously we talk 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 3: all the times. Sports are never been played at a 54 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: higher level than they are right now. And you see 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: that in college of basketball, like they're just all five 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: guys are long, can shoot. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: And are good defenders. 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: It's it's pretty crazy how how the sports has grown 59 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: so much and got so much better. And yeah, the ups, 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: that's unless you have a guy shooting, you know, seventy 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: from three. 62 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: It's hard for. 63 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: These smaller schools to compete with these big time schools. So, 64 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: like you said, it's still great games like that Saint 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 3: John's game is great. 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just it's just different. 67 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: It's not like it used to be no loyal in 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: Chicago with some old lady in the stands as one 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: hundred years old sister Jean rooting on our team. 70 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 4: Those days might be long gone. 71 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: My friend, you sound one hundred years old back in 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: the day. Let me tell you about what it used 73 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 1: to be. 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: George Mason. 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's twenty or twenty years ago. 76 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: It is. That's a really a long time ago. 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: But you're also seeing and we're going to bring in 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: our guests in a minute, but you're also seeing the 79 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: difference coaching can make. And you're also seeing a little 80 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: bit the difference age makes. 81 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: Right. 82 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Rick Patino talked about before they went into their game 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: against Kansas he might never go into a high school 84 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: recruits house again. He's only looking into the transfer portal 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: to get guys in his team who are veteran players. 86 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: And you're seeing a lot of these schools are recruiting 87 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: kids who have played professionally in Europe, right, And I 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: think that the way the game is adapting to nil 89 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: and the kids who are getting a ton of money 90 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: coming out of high school, a lot of coaches are saying, 91 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: fuck it, I'm going to adapt by getting players who 92 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: are a little bit older, a little bit stronger, and 93 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: I know they might develop in my program for two years, 94 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: and then I've got that opportunity on the back of 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that second year to really have developed an adult group 96 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: of kids, adult group of players, and we're going to 97 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: be much better than anybody else. If the goal is 98 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: to win the NCAA tournament, it might not be by 99 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: recruiting the five five star All American players anymore. It's 100 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: a new way to think about it strategically. To me, 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting. 102 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 103 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: And if I'm a man that's married with a wife, 104 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't let Rick Patina into my house either, So. 105 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 4: I chucked up. 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: I listen, we got to get out of this Sweet sixteen. 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: It's our Thursday episode. 108 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: We've got four games tipping off tonight, another four games 109 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: on Friday. We've got a lead eight Saturday e lead 110 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: eight Sunday final four next weekend. Today we will cover 111 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: all things betting for the Sweet sixteen. We will give 112 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: out another Simon sas and other brass Balls. Bet of 113 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: the Week presented by hard Rock Bet. We muscled out small, 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: tiny profit last week because we had Wisconsin minus nine 115 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: and a half in the opening round. They did not cover, 116 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: but we did have the TCU money line. They were 117 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: a plus one twenty. 118 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: So add it all up. 119 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: They're getting about, you know, maybe you're making ten bucks 120 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: once again, bringing back to the show because we enjoyed 121 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: him so much the first time. Our special returning guest, 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: co host of the Big Bets on Campus podcast college 123 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: basketball betting expert, Joshua Nunn aka Duck, Welcome back, brother, Thanks. 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: For having me on. It was a wild run in 125 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: the first couple rounds we saw as you had alluded to, 126 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 5: some of the underdogs that we had liked. Hung in 127 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 5: there for thirty five minutes, and then the end ended 128 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: up kind of fading in the last five minutes. Didn't 129 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 5: see as many upsets. Can comment to the landscape of 130 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: college athletics where the rich get richer, and you see 131 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: a lot of these mid level and low major leagues 132 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 5: that get a lot of their talent plucked from year 133 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: to year, and so I think that we'll see that 134 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 5: become more and more sparse, where it's tougher for these 135 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 5: teams from one bid leagues to make a run. And 136 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: the problem too is this year specifically, we had a 137 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 5: lot of leagues like the Southern Conference, the IVY League, 138 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: a CAAA teams didn't send their leagues, didn't send their 139 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: best representation to the NCAA tournament because you had upsets 140 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: during conference championship week, and so you didn't have teams 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: that had separated themselves throughout the regular season end up 142 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: winning their conference tournament. So that can happen when you 143 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: have upsets during conference championship week, you're probably not going 144 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 5: to get them here. And that just further provoked the 145 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: success of the higher seeds and the favorites during the 146 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: opening round. 147 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: Simon, you're smiling right now. I'm sure Matt Mitchell is 148 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: smiling right now. As we've discussed, we are the most 149 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: literate sports betting podcast in America, and I just want 150 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: it recognized. Duck just used in one answer concomminant. 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: Sparse, and provoke. 152 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: The guy he might as well be Dustyevsky, just talking 153 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: about gambling as if it is some kind of you know, 154 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: really digging deep into the dictionary to pull out the 155 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: kind of words that really you only get in a 156 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: podcast like this. 157 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Well done, Duck. 158 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: If there was a prize for most literate guests, we'd 159 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: be giving it to you right now. 160 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 5: Hey, we try to get people to the window, but 161 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 5: we got to articulate these games the best we can. 162 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: We call it as we see it. And you know, 163 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: sports betting and gambling is there's a lot to do 164 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: with diving into the metrics, looking at the matchups, looking 165 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 5: at the personnel. But there's an art to it as well. 166 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: So let's also let's we want to talk to the 167 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: art in the caveat with the minutia of what goes 168 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 5: into all this. I think it's important to to do 169 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: that the best we can. 170 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Now you're just showing off articulate caveat. 171 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: What is happening here? 172 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Douc with all the bets he gave out the other day, 173 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: it was a little bit like us basically even on 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: the day, some really great calls, some calls that didn't 175 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: work out. You know, you had cal Baptist, I think 176 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: you had their team total under and we had that 177 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: name against Arizona was the under. The Wisconsin team total over, 178 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: but Duke Belmont under, which was great and covered by 179 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: a hook, you know, mixed back, mixed bag. The day 180 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: on that we talked a little bit about the favorites. 181 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: This from our best friend Evan Abrams. A remarkable run 182 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: for early round favorites. On Friday, favorites went undefeated sixteen 183 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: to zero for the first time since nineteen ninety two, 184 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: twelve and four against the spread. 185 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: In the first two rounds, we've. 186 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: Seen favorites go thirty nine to nine straight up and 187 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: over sixty percent against the spread to Simon's point, fewest 188 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: outright up since since twenty eighteen, tiber the second fewest 189 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years, the best against the spread 190 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: record for favors to start the tournament since two thousand 191 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: and eight. And if you combine last year and this 192 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: year entering this Sweet sixteen, that's sixty five favorites of 193 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: six points or more. Only six of those teams lost 194 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: outright and they covered sixty three percent against the closing line. 195 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I still love the tournament. I watched it 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday, I watched it on Sunday. I felt like 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: there were games that I enjoyed. This does put into 198 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: stark relief what a chalky tournament this has been, which 199 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: is what people were expecting. So Doc, like, what is 200 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: your biggest takeaway from all of this heading into the 201 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: Sween sixteen. 202 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a real spirited debate on Twitter about that, 203 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: and the language people were using was that the tournament 204 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: was dead. I'm not here to suggest that, but I 205 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 5: did feel that there was a lack of some Cinderella drama. 206 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 5: Early on, you just didn't see as much in the 207 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: way of shocking upsets. You saw a couple of teams 208 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 5: that were able to put a little bit of a 209 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 5: scare into some of the traditional blue blood power programs, 210 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: but they did fade later on in the second half. 211 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 5: If it was interesting to see teams like Virginia, I 212 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 5: bet Virginia trying to adhere to what they had really 213 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 5: shown as far as the identity of that team and 214 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: the makeup of that team during the second half of 215 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 5: the ACC schedule and into their ACC tournament run, and 216 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: Virginia just looked terrible. They couldn't defend against Wright State. 217 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 5: The shot blockers were neutralized and ineffective. They ended up 218 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: eking out a win, but never threatened to cover, and 219 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: defensive intensity was just not there. And then they just 220 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: looked like chumps against Tennessee in the second round. It 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: was really surprising to see Virginia play so poorly. SMU 222 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 5: played poorly in the first four. They just didn't make 223 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: shots and couldn't stop anything. Miami of Ohio was doing 224 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: very surprising that their athleticism didn't take over. And then 225 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 5: you had a couple of fun teams that were big 226 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: underdogs in Sienna and Akron that were right there at 227 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 5: the end and ended up fading down the stretch. So 228 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: my takeaway is that there are just fewer and fewer 229 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 5: teams that are capable of making deep runs. What High 230 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 5: Point did was incredible with their style of play. They 231 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: don't play a ton of great defense, but their defense 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: rows up against Wisconsin during the last five minutes and 233 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 5: just a group in high Point that completely bought into 234 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 5: what they wanted to do. They were going to play fast, 235 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 5: they took wild threes, they didn't get deep into the 236 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 5: shot clock to try to get the best shot. They 237 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: were just looking to really get the first shot. And 238 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 5: for them to upset Wisconsin and then take Arkansas at 239 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 5: the brink was really really a cool thing to see. 240 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 5: I wish we were seeing a team like that in 241 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 5: the Sweet sixteen, but then really, I mean, you know, 242 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: the shock of the tournament is Iowa defeating Florida and 243 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 5: the way that that game played out. Ben McCollum and 244 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 5: Iowa have this wild system that they play offensively where 245 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 5: they're really void of a star outside of Bennett Sturtz. 246 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 5: They're very unselfish with the ball, they play at the 247 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 5: slowest pace in the country, and they had built a 248 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 5: twelve point lead against the Gators, who were more athletic, 249 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: they're taller, they're better in the post. But when Iowa 250 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 5: surrendered that lead and they were down with five minutes 251 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: to go by multiple possessions, they were missing foul shots. 252 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: Their best player was zero for nine from three. It 253 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: was just really stunning to see Iowa be able to 254 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 5: hang in there against a superior team. And then they 255 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 5: gave themselves a chance to win, and the way they 256 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 5: executed that inbounds play with five seconds left, throwing the 257 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 5: ball to Sterts, having him dribbled to the three point line, 258 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: kick it out, and then the guy who transferred in, 259 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: f Robert Morris, was able to hit that three point 260 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: shot in the corner. It was remarkable. I was just 261 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: really stunned that they were able. That was the biggest 262 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: surprise of the tournament at this point, seeing Florida go 263 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: down early with the home environment in Tampa and the 264 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 5: way they had come back, I thought they were going 265 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: to gain firm control of that game. So I think, really, 266 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 5: Iowa becomes a Cinderella team that we can look. I'm sorry, 267 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: I know in seed only, Texas is an eleven seed, 268 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 5: but they have such a huge athletic budget they played 269 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 5: in the SEC. Texas is not a Cinderella in my opinion. 270 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 5: They're a team that it's a fun story, and I 271 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: mean they're a type very talented basketball program that spends 272 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 5: a lot of money. So I'm not considering them a Cinderella. 273 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 5: I will consider I would be bad. 274 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would say too to people complaining about 275 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: the NCAA going from watching March Madness the NBA. I 276 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: know the NBA has a problem, Like they just came 277 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: out and said their revenue dropped. It's it's it really is. 278 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: The gap is getting bigger and bigger. We're like, it's 279 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: fun watching college basketball. I don't have that same type 280 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: of fun watching the NBA. So I don't know what 281 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna do, but there is definitely a difference where 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: like I was literally on the edge of my seats 283 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: and a couple of those college basketball games, I don't 284 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: get like that with the NBA until June. So yeah, 285 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: college basketball, to me, it's it's something that's a casual 286 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: sports fan is still king. I know it was it 287 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: down with like you said, but it's it's just tough. 288 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: As a gabler likes bending dogs. It's like me, we 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: gotta switch. I guess I think we gotta start doing 290 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 3: the favorite money line around robins. 291 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: Right, Like, that's that might be a move going forward ward. 292 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: It's like it's a cash cow that we're missing out 293 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: on just because we're so inherent to betting these dogs. 294 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: But I would love to know your take on just 295 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: the chalk at the top. Right. 296 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: We saw Duke struggle against the sixteen seed. We saw 297 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: them struggle against TCU Florida got knocked out. Are there 298 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: some teams are sleeping on the future market? They were like, Okay, 299 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: these these top dogs aren't that great as I thought 300 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: they were going to be. Is there is there anyone 301 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: out there that we should grab in the future market? 302 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: You know, the future market adjusted pretty quickly live as 303 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: some of these teams were pulling away or falling. I 304 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: do like Houston. I think the path for Houston is 305 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 5: clear for them to advance to the final four. I 306 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: think these guys can play with anybody on their side 307 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 5: of the bracket. With how it looks up when you 308 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: when you look at the NCAA tournament bracket, and Houston 309 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: having to potentially play in the Final four against an 310 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: East Region team, but with Florida being out of the fold, 311 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: it really opens the path for them. They're playing at home, 312 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 5: They're not in their home gym, but they are in Houston. 313 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: They're going to have such an advantage in the crowd 314 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: being behind them. I think they can do some things 315 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: to neutralize what it'ill likes to do. There's not going 316 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: to be a lot of pace in that game. Both 317 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: those teams operate very slowly, but I think Houston's defense 318 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 5: will provide some unique challenges that Illinois hasn't seen. And 319 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: then after that, looking beyond, they would play the winner 320 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 5: of Iowa in Nebraska in the Elite eight and Houston 321 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: would be a decided favorite of at least eight or 322 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 5: eight and a half points there. So I think Houston 323 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 5: has a real great shot to get to the Final four. 324 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 5: And then once you get to the final four, you're 325 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 5: really looking at two game settings where any of the 326 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: four teams that advanced to that point would be capable 327 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 5: of winning the whole thing. So really, at this point, Houston, 328 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: I really also think Purdue is starting to come on. 329 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 5: We're starting to see some more offensive continuity for Purdue. 330 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: When they struggled down the stretch in Big Ten play, 331 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 5: it was because the offense was not going. They weren't 332 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 5: making shots. They were getting good looks and just not 333 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: knocking them down. Trey Kaffman Ren wasn't as effective. Some 334 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: of the other post players just hadn't been clicking. But 335 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: Purdue is a team that I think can continue to 336 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: win games and can put a real scare into their 337 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: side of the bracket, potentially fet Arizona to get to 338 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 5: the Final four. So I would want to buy on 339 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: Purdue as well. 340 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: Who do you think is the. 341 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: You know, every year there's a coach that sort of 342 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: comes out of this who makes the most money because 343 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: they got their team right. And we just talked about 344 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: McCollum at Iowa and he had come from Drake, so 345 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: he got his bag and now he's proven what a 346 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: good coach he is and that he's been doing this 347 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: from Division two to Drake to Iowa. Who do you 348 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: think he's the coach from your point of view, who 349 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: has most improved their standing? And I guess we got 350 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: to take Jerry McNamara out of it, because he's already 351 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: gone from Sienna to Syracuse. So who's the guy who's 352 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: going to make the most money out of this tournament. 353 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 5: Well, it's so funny you bring that up, because the 354 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: minute the season ends for these teams, their coaches are 355 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: getting plucked elsewhere. We saw it with Siena, we saw 356 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 5: it with State, yet Utah States guy Calhoun, South Florida's 357 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 5: hodged and went to Providence. I mean, Flynn Clayman from 358 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 5: high Point is absolutely on the map, and I won't 359 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 5: be surprised at all if he were to get plucked 360 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: somewhere else. The way that he had his team believing 361 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 5: in their system, the way that they played was exciting, 362 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 5: and they significantly overperformed expectations. So it may not happen 363 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 5: immediately this next coming season, but I'd say within a 364 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 5: year and a half, Flynn claimant'll have a high profile 365 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: job in college basketball coaching. 366 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you mentioned that about high Point. 367 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: I read that high Point has like a four million 368 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: dollar nil budget for basketball, plays in a nearly two 369 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar stadium, chartered a plane for fans and 370 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: administration to go to their game. High Point is one 371 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: of those schools like as someone who just had a 372 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: kid go through the process. He didn't apply to high Point, 373 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: but it's one of those schools that has a REP. 374 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Is like this very wealthy enclave, country club school where 375 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: you get treated like. 376 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 2: A king when you are on campus. 377 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking about that this morning, like, if I'm 378 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: the coach at high Point, do I want to leave? 379 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Like it seems like a really cushy gig where you 380 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: can compete in a not amazingly competitive conference, continue to 381 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: go to the NCAAs and like burnish a rep for 382 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: a little while before you take a bag somewhere else. 383 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny. There are schools that are that way, 384 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: and you see some of the coaches have different sort 385 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 5: of philosophies on that. A guy like Mark Few at 386 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 5: Gonzaga or Randy Bennett at Saint Mary's College, some of 387 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 5: those guys stick around for twenty or twenty five years 388 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 5: before moving on. We just saw Randy Bennett sign with 389 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 5: Arizona States. 390 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 391 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 5: There, but some of these coaches are just you kind 392 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: of outgrow your pond and you've kind of maximized everything 393 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 5: at that school that it will ever be. I don't 394 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: think high Point will ever be a ton more than 395 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 5: a potential dark horse Sweet sixteen candidate. Some of these 396 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: coaches just want to be able to validate that they 397 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: can do it at a high major or a P 398 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 5: four school, and so, you know, I agree that, and 399 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: I've often thought this privately. If it was me coaching 400 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 5: and I was paid millions of dollars and I could 401 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 5: do it at High Point and never have a tremendous 402 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 5: amount of pressure. You're always going to be one or 403 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 5: two in your league. You're going to out recruit everybody 404 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 5: else in your league. Kind of might just stick it 405 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 5: out there and see what happens. UNCW is a place 406 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 5: like that as well. In the CIA, you live on 407 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: the beach, You're always going to get the best recruits. 408 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 5: You're going to get some TV exposure in CIA being 409 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 5: at the top of your league. But you find in 410 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 5: all these mid major leagues or low major leagues that 411 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: coaches will leave when the phone rings, And so I 412 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if that happens with him. 413 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, high Points, great, Chad, But when USC calls, you go, yeah, I. 414 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: Know, I know. 415 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Look, I thought it was interesting that Randy Bennett just 416 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: left Saint Mary's to go to Arizona State That to 417 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: me felt like Arizona State, which has been doing a 418 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: lot to sort of improve their athletic department reputation, and 419 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: they've invested a lot in Kenny Dillingham and the football program, 420 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: and I know there are women's college basketball team is 421 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: doing really well. Now they've gone on and got Randy Bennett. 422 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: That felt like a run the Indiana Kurtz Signetti playbook. 423 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: To me, Get a guy who's been a proven winner 424 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: at a mid major school for a long time, and 425 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: see what he does when he has a much bigger 426 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: budget and recruit like Tier one high school players, go 427 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: into the portal, get Tier one transfers, and see how 428 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: quickly he can turn that team into a monster. That 429 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: to me, that to me, Dug feels like a team 430 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: to watch next year. 431 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 5: I think so. In the system that he runs is 432 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: it's similar in nature to Iowa's as in the fact 433 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: that Saint Mary's doesn't rely on one or two star players. 434 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: They have a very fluid offensive system that allows for 435 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 5: any one of five players to shine at anyone given day. 436 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 5: The defensive, just the tenacity of their defense can really 437 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: put the clamps on a lot of people. So Randy 438 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: Bennett has a system that clearly works, and it works 439 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 5: in situations where he's not recruiting the most talented players. 440 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 5: Arizona State, they've always said, particularly for football, it's the 441 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: easiest place to recruit to, it's the hardest place to 442 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 5: keep eligible. So if you can get the guys in 443 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: the building at Arizona State, they're going to have some talent. 444 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 5: And I agree they're going to be a program that 445 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: will certainly be on the upward trend. 446 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: All right, Thursday games Texas Purdue is a six and 447 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: a half point favorite, Iowa Nebraska you mentioned Iowa Nebraska 448 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: is a one and a half point favorite, Arkansas Arizona 449 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: Arizona eight and a half, and Illinois Houston Houston is 450 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: three and a half. Doc your best bets for Thursday's game. 451 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 5: I like Purdue lay in the six and a half. 452 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 5: I think Texas is just a bit over their skis here. 453 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: They were very fortunate to have defeated BYU, who was 454 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: really banged up no Richie Saunders. The team really suffered 455 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 5: badly offensively as a result in their defense just had 456 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 5: no real ability to accumulate any stops down the stretch 457 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 5: for BYU. We look at Gonzaga, who Texas defeated next, 458 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: also banged up. They didn't have Bradenhoff and Braden Smith, 459 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 5: their point guard, was injured against Santa Clara in the 460 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 5: WCC final. Well, he rarely he didn't even play very 461 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: much in this NCAA tournament, and he was ineffective largely 462 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: when he was out there. Another one of their players, 463 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 5: in Asante, was also hurt and ineffective. So you had 464 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 5: Texas playing two teams that were banged up and not 465 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 5: at full strength, and now they have to go do 466 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 5: it against Purdue. And again, I think Purdue's offense they're 467 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 5: so efficient. I think that they can absolutely torch Texas's defense. 468 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 5: They'll be able to neutralize what Texas likes to do 469 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 5: on offense operating out of the post. For those reasons, 470 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 5: I like for Due to win and cover this number 471 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 5: of six and a half. 472 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: All right, look, Simon, we owe the people to Simon Says, presented. 473 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: By hard Rock Bet. 474 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: It's a Thursday game, give us your pick. 475 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 3: Duck got me fired up about Iowa and that was 476 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: that was probably the most fun I had watching a game. 477 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: That Florida game was just so back and forth, and 478 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: Iowa just could not They could not knock at Iowa out, 479 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: and I feel like there's still just a live dog here. 480 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: And you know, they've already beat Nebraska this year, so 481 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: it's not like they're unfamiliar with this opponent. 482 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: And plus one ten Chad knows we love those little 483 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: short dogs. 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In Indiana, if you were someone you know 516 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: has a gambling problem and wants help, call one eight 517 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: hundred and nine with it in Ohio called one eight 518 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: hundred my reset gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler 519 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: In Arizona. 520 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Tennessee, and Virginia. 521 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: That means our brass balls is going to come from 522 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: the Friday games. Doc, I just want to point out, 523 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about Iowa, Nebraska, We're talking about Michigan, We're 524 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: talking about Michigan State, We're talking about Illinois. The Big 525 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Ten is clearly the most dominant conference. And the reason 526 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: I bring that up isn't just because I went to Indiana, 527 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: but you had mentioned you know Texas and the SEC, 528 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: and they get athletes, you don't see them as a cinderella, 529 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: and yet you do see Iowa as a cinderella. I 530 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: was playing in the hardest conference in college basketball. I 531 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: just want that pointed out. Give us your best bets 532 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: for Friday. The games are Saint John's Duke Duke six 533 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: and a half, Alabama, Michigan, Michigan nine and a half, 534 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Michigan State, Yukon, Yukon two and a half, Yukon twenty. 535 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: Five to one. 536 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: It's my pick to win it all Tennessee at Iowa State, 537 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Iowa State four and a half. 538 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: Doc, give it to us. 539 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: Now this first one here, you shop around for the 540 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: best number, so you put yourself in the best situation 541 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 5: possible to succeed. But hard Rock has the best total 542 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 5: on this one. I actually like Saint John's and Duke 543 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: under one forty two and a half. I do not 544 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 5: want to disregard a Rick Patino coach team here in 545 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: the Sweet sixteen, with plenty of time to draw up 546 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 5: a defensive scheme that will be able to limit the 547 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: effectiveness of what Duke likes to do. With Boozer out 548 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 5: of the post, you look at Zoobie and Dylan Mitchell 549 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 5: on the block, they should be able to match up 550 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 5: pretty well with Boozer in the paint and should make 551 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 5: it tough for these guys to operate. Saint John's really 552 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: can force the issue with forcing turnovers and steals. They've 553 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 5: got two really pesky guards in Darling and Ian Jackson, 554 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 5: and every game they force multiple steals. And so with 555 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 5: Duke still having their point guard Caleb Foster potentially out 556 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 5: of the fold, I really think the Johnnies can just 557 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 5: provide some on ball pressure and just create some situations 558 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: where Duke is going to struggle operating offensively. Duke has 559 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 5: really throttled their tempo down anyway with some other guys 560 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 5: being out of the fold, so I don't think we're 561 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: going to see a lot of pace here and Duke's 562 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: transition defense is very good, so you're not gonna be 563 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: able to run on the Blue Devils. I think we 564 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: get an honest game in the half court here. We 565 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: have not seen a Rick Patino coached Saint John's game 566 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 5: go over this total yet. Since he's been at Saint John's, 567 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 5: he has trended to be an under coach in the 568 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: NCAA tournament. They've throttled down their tempo in the nca tournament. 569 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: Duke is already playing slower. I just don't think we're 570 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 5: going to get enough possessions and enough offensive efficiency in 571 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: a matchup that pits the first and the eighth most 572 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 5: effective defenses in the country against each other. I think 573 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 5: that we'll see a close game, a back and forth 574 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: game that I think the Johnnies can hang around in 575 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: in DC. But my best bet here is under one 576 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: forty two and a half between Saint John's and Duke. 577 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: Second one i'll talk about for Friday is and this 578 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 5: is not a play yet. I want to look at 579 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: the injury reports. But Tennessee plus four and a half 580 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 5: against Iowa State. If Joshua Jefferson is not in the fold, 581 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 5: he is such a force on both ends of the 582 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: floor in the painted area for Iowa State, and Tennessee 583 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: was just able to make Virginia look like chumps on 584 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 5: the offensive glass. Virginia was one of the best rebounding 585 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 5: teams in the country. They have a really good rim 586 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 5: protecting defense, two great shot blockers that blocked fourteen shots 587 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 5: against Duke in the ACC title, just completely ineffective against 588 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: Tennessee with Nate Amen and the Tennessee rebounds forty five 589 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 5: percent of their misshots on offense. So the extra possessions, 590 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: second chance opportunities, put backs, all of that is so 591 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: important in a game with this magnitude. So if Jefferson 592 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 5: is not able to go, we won't probably see it 593 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: four and a half. It'll probably tick down to three 594 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: or two and a half. But he's sprayed his ankle 595 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 5: pretty badly and that can take some time to get 596 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 5: back into playing forms. So this is one where I 597 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 5: want to check the injury and the participation report diligently 598 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 5: before tip off. But without Joshua Jefferson, Iowa State is 599 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 5: really going to struggle with Tennessee on the glass, and 600 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 5: I think Tennessee can hang around, if not win that 601 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 5: game outright. So TBD. But I really like Tennessee. 602 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: Here, Douck, you are foreshadowing what we are going to 603 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: make our. 604 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: Brass Ball bet of the week. 605 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: You know what it takes. It takes brass balls. 606 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Volunteers plus one fifty five versus Iowa State. 607 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: We're just going out on a limb that Jefferson isn't 608 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: going to play, given how bad that injury was, and 609 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: he was, you know, scooting around in a boot the 610 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: other day. So we are going with the Tennessee Volunteers 611 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: our brass Balls Bet of the Week presented by hard 612 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: Rock Back plus one fifty five versus Iowa State. So, look, 613 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: we talked about Tennessee a little bit. We talked about 614 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: Iowa as our Simon says, looking at the Sweet sixteen, 615 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: knowing that it has been a favorites heavy tournament so far, 616 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: is there anyone else? Is there another upset minded team 617 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: that you're looking at and saying, huh, these guys they 618 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: got a shot. 619 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: I mean, if Alabama makes nineteen threes again like they 620 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 5: did against Texas Tech, they can beat anybody. And you know, 621 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 5: you really get some compression now in the point spreads. 622 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 5: Seven of these spreads are lined at six and a 623 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: half or tighter. So these are going to be close, 624 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 5: competitive games. I wouldn't be stunned if we do see 625 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 5: some more upsets. Michigan State Yukon is going to be 626 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 5: a really great game, and Izzo against Hurley, the coaching 627 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: battle is going to be exquisite. We're gonna really see 628 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 5: some good defensive basketball there. Either one of those teams 629 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 5: can win. You look at the Thursday games. I wouldn't 630 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 5: be stunned. I wouldn't I don't want this to happen 631 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: because I'm long on Houston, but I wouldn't be stunned 632 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 5: if Illinois were to win that game. It's a three 633 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 5: point spread for a reason. It's saying the aligne I 634 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 5: can compete. I think I think Arkansas can do some 635 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 5: things against Arizona. You know, Arizona they don't rely on 636 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: the three point shot, but they really also don't shoot 637 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 5: a lot of threes, and if they're in a situation 638 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 5: where they have to make some threes, that's really something 639 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 5: that they haven't done a lot of this year in 640 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 5: high pressure situations. So I mean, if Arkansas shooting the 641 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 5: ball well and they're getting the fast break going with 642 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 5: acuff I think they can put a scare into Arizona 643 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 5: as well. I think all these games will be pretty tight. Really, 644 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 5: the one upset that I would be stunned if Purdue lost. 645 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 5: I think Purdue is a much better team. I think 646 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 5: that executional basketball they're really doing well at I would 647 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: be stunned to see Purdue lose. I really wouldn't be 648 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 5: completely stunned to see anybody else lose. So I do 649 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 5: have an exotic here. You can find in the markets 650 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 5: three plus upsets based on the seed line in the 651 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: Sweet sixteen. There's eight total games three or more, so 652 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: essentially over under two and a half, three or more 653 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 5: upsets on the seed line to happen in the Sweet sixteen, 654 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 5: and that's a plus money bet. You can find that 655 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 5: about plus one thirteen or plus one seventeen if shot rounds. 656 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: So I do think that that will happen. I think 657 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 5: these games are tight. I think it'll come down to 658 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 5: execution in the last four minutes, foul shooting, who can 659 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 5: make step up and make a shot. And I won't 660 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 5: be surprised at all if we see at least three 661 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 5: higher seeded teams win during the Thursday and Friday rounds. 662 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's recap a little bit. 663 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Duck's best bet for Thursday is Purdue minus six and 664 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: a half on at Saint John's Duke under the total 665 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: the Simon says bet. 666 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: Is going to be Iowa plus one. 667 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: Ten Brass Balls is going to be Tennessee plus one 668 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: fifty five. Joshue None aka Duck Big Bets on Campus Podcast, 669 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us and being our college basketball expert. 670 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Once again. 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