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Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Day Break Asia for It's Wednesday, June

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Speaker 1: seventh in Hong Kong, Tuesday June sixth in New York

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Speaker 1: and coming up today.

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Speaker 2: Coinbase is being sued by the sec for allegedly breaking

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Speaker 2: US securities rules.

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Speaker 1: Sequoia Capital will split into three firms by next March.

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Speaker 2: And China's biggest banks have reportedly been asked by authorities

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Speaker 2: to lower their deposit rates.

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Speaker 3: Reports of high level talks in the coming weeks between

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Speaker 3: the foreign ministers of the US and China. Ukraine and

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Speaker 3: Russia blame each other for the breach of a critical

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Speaker 3: dam in Ukraine. Chris Christian, I'm at Baxter with Global News.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Doug Chrisner and I'm Brian Curtiz.

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Speaker 1: Here are the stories we're following today. The US Securities

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Speaker 1: in Exchange Commission and filing that lawsuit over Coinbase Global.

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Speaker 1: The regulator alleged that the company has been running an

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Speaker 1: illegal exchange. The SEC accused Coinbase of evading its rules

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Speaker 1: for years by letting users trade numerous crypto tookens tokens

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Speaker 1: that were actually unregistered securities. This comes a day after

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Speaker 1: the regulator sued Crypto Exchange Finance for breaking securities rules

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Speaker 1: as well. SEC chair Gary Gensler has repeatedly argued that

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Speaker 1: most cryptotokens are subject to his agency's oversight. Is Gensler,

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Speaker 5: The crypto industry more broadly, if it's going to have

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Speaker 5: any success going forward, has to come into compliance with

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Speaker 5: basic public policy about disclosure, about avoiding conflicts, about segregating properly,

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Speaker 1: Gensler said the SEC worked with ten states to bring

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Speaker 1: its complaint against Coinbase, and he said that the agency's

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Speaker 1: efforts to clamp down on crypto are designed to protect

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Speaker 1: investors and the US market integrity. Gwenbe shares finished down

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Speaker 1: twelve percent in New York.

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Speaker 2: Well Brian teed it up a moment ago. The PGA

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Speaker 2: Tour and Saudi backed Live Golf have agreed to a

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Speaker 2: shocking merger. Now, under terms of this deal, the PGA Tour,

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Speaker 2: Live Golf and the dp World Tour, as well as

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Speaker 2: the European Golf Circuit, will combine their golf related businesses

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Speaker 2: and rights into a new commercial entity, VISA VI and LLC.

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Speaker 2: Now financial terms were not disclosed. Live has spent millions

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Speaker 2: trying to lure away some of the biggest players on

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour, and this new accord will bring an

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Speaker 2: end to all litigation between both sides. We heard earlier

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Speaker 6: What happened is basically this was not going to be sustainable.

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Speaker 6: These were like blood rivals in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 6: lawsuits back and forth, and Live really put a dent,

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Speaker 6: at least sort of theoretically in what the PGA was doing.

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Speaker 6: Now they're going to come together and be really the

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Speaker 6: most dominant voices in golf.

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Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's Jason Kelly. By the way, this deal

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Speaker 2: also marks a significant victory for Saudi Arabia, which backed

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Speaker 2: Live Golf through its sovereign wealth Fund. The kingdom is

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Speaker 2: now assured of having a prominent voice in a major

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Speaker 2: sport as it deploys oil riches to try to increase

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: This one was really a big surprise. I heard and

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Speaker 1: they couldn't believe it. So how they kept it quiet

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Speaker 1: Venture capital powerhouse Sequoia Capital said it is breaking up

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Speaker 1: One is focused on China, another on the US in Europe,

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Speaker 1: of March next year. We get more from Bloomberg'sed Ludlow.

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Speaker 7: What the partners of each regional unit said in the

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Speaker 7: statement is that they're running decentralized organizations with a centralized

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Speaker 1: And when the split occurs, the Sequoya China business will

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Speaker 2: Well, there is a new problem for America's largest aircraft manufacturer,

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg's tom Busby as More.

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Speaker 8: Bowing has to delay deliveries of its massive long range

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Speaker 8: seven eighty seven Dreamliner JED after finding flawed parts in

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Speaker 8: for Boeing's Dreamliner production at that aircraft shut down for

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Speaker 8: nearly two years after defects were found in how sections

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Speaker 1: China's biggest banks have reportedly been asked by authorities to

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Speaker 1: lower their deposit rates. Bloomberg's Joan Wong has More.

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Speaker 9: Bank of China, ICBC and Bank of Communications were said

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Speaker 9: to be advised to cut rates on a range of products.

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Speaker 9: us lowing economy. Cutting deposit rates with lower costs for

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Speaker 9: more attractive for consumers and businesses to borrow. That said,

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Speaker 9: lower deposit rates would make it less attractive for ordinary

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis along with Doug Krisner. Rashad Salama will

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Speaker 1: join us in a few moments. Cutting deposit rates by

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Speaker 1: five basis points doesn't sound too much, but demand deposits

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Speaker 2: If you look at the weekly activity index from Bloomberg Economics,

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Speaker 2: right now in terms of high frequency data where China

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Speaker 2: Bloomberg Weekly Activity Index brian and is back below levels

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also interesting, is the same thing happening

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so what you're saying there reminds me of

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Speaker 2: a comment made today by the CEO of Apollo Global Management,

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Speaker 2: the underlying economy does remain strong. Look at the employment

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very peculiar environment. It's not easy to

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Speaker 1: draw lessons from history. You can imagine that there's some

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Speaker 1: the Nasdaq one hundred has returned thirty three percent year today.

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Speaker 1: Now that's not just one stock, that's an index of

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Speaker 1: one hundred well known names. So if you've got bearish

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Speaker 2: And then you have the FED meeting next week. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be a good thing for the bulls,

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Speaker 1: you know, cutting rates, say in a few months, that

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Speaker 1: It's time for global news reports emerging that high level

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Speaker 1: China US talks will happen in the coming weeks and

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's right, Brian, this is a US looks

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Speaker 3: to resume the high level talks. Bloomberg sources say he

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Speaker 11: He'll be meeting with officials, likely his counterpart. But there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so coming weeks, they say. Both Ukraine and Russia

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Speaker 3: He says he has not ruled out further funding, that

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Speaker 3: there is no need for a rush, and President Joe

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Speaker 13: Today we're going to discuss the progress for making investing

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Speaker 13: in America and the steps each agency around the table

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Speaker 13: here is taken to build on that progress and finish

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Speaker 3: Because we're not finished yet. We have more to do,

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Speaker 3: and that's the US. He says that there will be

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Speaker 3: continued support for Ukraine as well, and on a much

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Speaker 3: lighter note, the President. Over the golf weekend, Yeah, PGA Live,

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Speaker 3: mister President. A former in New Jersey governor Chris Christi

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Speaker 3: will formally announce his run for President's schedule for about

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Speaker 3: half an hour in New Hampshire. He has taken out

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Speaker 3: the papers. Republican strategist in Bloomberg contributor Lisa Cabuso Miller

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Speaker 3: says Christie brings something new. He will not be afraid

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Speaker 3: to go after Donald Trump.

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Speaker 10: He really does cut through a lot of that nonsense

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Speaker 10: and calls up what the facts really are and that

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis in Hong Kong, along with Rashad Salamat,

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Speaker 1: and our guest is Ann Maletti, head of Active Equity

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Speaker 1: at all Spring Global Investments. And so looking at the

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Speaker 14: Well, I think you ask a really important question. It

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Speaker 1: Sure, but I know, I know people really think that.

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Speaker 14: You can. And I do think what we're seeing is

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Speaker 14: And really what's Brian, what's most interesting is that instead

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and this brings U nicey to talk about. How

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Speaker 1: It's tempting to think that you have this one big

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Speaker 14: It's going to disintermediate, disintermediate a lot of businesses but

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Speaker 14: You know, I you know, I know, I heard you

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