WEBVTT - Auron MacIntyre - Ending Affirmative Action 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.977 You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:19.737 wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.137 --> 0:00:22.817 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Saxton Show. We've got 0:00:22.857 --> 0:00:26.177 our friend Aaron McIntyre on this episode. He does a 0:00:26.177 --> 0:00:29.137 great podcast. He's at the Blaze. You should check out 0:00:29.977 --> 0:00:32.217 everything that he is up to over there. Mister Oran, 0:00:32.217 --> 0:00:35.057 appreciate you coming back absolutely, thanks for having me again. 0:00:35.897 --> 0:00:38.977 So recently, there's this big decision that comes down on 0:00:39.017 --> 0:00:42.417 affirmative action, and one of the most interesting things about it, 0:00:42.457 --> 0:00:43.377 I think is. 0:00:45.057 --> 0:00:45.937 Something that you and I. 0:00:45.937 --> 0:00:49.297 Have talked about off air, which is that the institutions 0:00:49.297 --> 0:00:53.857 that are affected by this are largely taking the attitude of, oh, 0:00:53.897 --> 0:00:58.697 it's unconstitutional, whatever, we'll still do it, We'll still find 0:00:58.697 --> 0:00:59.337 a way. 0:00:59.097 --> 0:01:01.417 What's going on there? What does that tell us? 0:01:02.337 --> 0:01:05.817 Yeah, you could see right away that Harvard immediately responded 0:01:05.897 --> 0:01:08.777 by just saying, oh, that's nice, we'll comply with this, 0:01:08.817 --> 0:01:11.217 and immediately pointed to it. It sees as a loophole 0:01:11.257 --> 0:01:14.417 and the ruling where yes, technically you can no longer 0:01:14.457 --> 0:01:18.257 evaluate students solely based on their race or give them 0:01:18.537 --> 0:01:22.297 explicit additional points for that kind of admission. But you 0:01:22.377 --> 0:01:26.057 can think about that when they are justifying kind of 0:01:26.097 --> 0:01:28.977 the things they've overcome, and so there's still this loophole 0:01:29.057 --> 0:01:31.297 of okay, well, as long as they maybe put in 0:01:31.297 --> 0:01:34.257 an essay or they explained it as part of how 0:01:34.297 --> 0:01:36.777 they fought back against depression, that kind of thing, then 0:01:36.857 --> 0:01:39.137 you can consider it. You just can't put it directly 0:01:39.137 --> 0:01:43.337 into say what kind of sat or Act score is accepted. 0:01:44.217 --> 0:01:47.057 I mean, I feel like the takeaway from all this 0:01:47.217 --> 0:01:50.097 is that the only way this really changes is that 0:01:50.217 --> 0:01:54.257 now there's at least a constitutional precedent handed down by 0:01:54.257 --> 0:01:57.057 the court here in terms of the interpretation of it that. 0:01:57.097 --> 0:01:59.697 Will allow for more lawsuits. 0:02:00.057 --> 0:02:01.657 You know, what you had at this point was the 0:02:01.697 --> 0:02:03.537 court seemed divided at the lower level, had to make 0:02:03.577 --> 0:02:06.417 its way all the way up. So I suppose now 0:02:06.657 --> 0:02:09.097 you just have to be able to get the data 0:02:10.457 --> 0:02:14.177 to see that the same discrimination, racial discrimination, that's what 0:02:14.257 --> 0:02:17.257 this is everybody, that's what the courts were doing, That 0:02:17.377 --> 0:02:21.937 same discrimination would continue on. And so I feel like 0:02:21.977 --> 0:02:24.777 there have to be many more lawsuits, Like basically this 0:02:24.897 --> 0:02:29.457 is the start of stopping the affirmative action regime. It's 0:02:29.497 --> 0:02:31.297 not like this switches it all overnight. 0:02:32.297 --> 0:02:35.257 Yeah, no, absolutely, this is the beginning of the war, 0:02:35.297 --> 0:02:36.977 and at the end of it, it simply allows it 0:02:37.017 --> 0:02:39.297 to take place. Like you said, a lot of these 0:02:39.377 --> 0:02:42.977 institutions are already changing. They already saw this coming. This 0:02:43.577 --> 0:02:46.297 ruling was predicted for a while, and so a lot 0:02:46.337 --> 0:02:49.657 of these institutions had already decided to move to more 0:02:49.657 --> 0:02:53.777 of an essay based admission as opposed to a test 0:02:53.817 --> 0:02:56.577 score admission. And that's because the data becomes much harder. 0:02:56.617 --> 0:02:59.137 Then you can kind of fudge everything. You can still 0:02:59.177 --> 0:03:02.457 apply the same biases, but you can do so without 0:03:02.497 --> 0:03:07.137 it being easily numerically quantifiable. Of course, the ruling itself 0:03:07.217 --> 0:03:09.657 actually explicitly says they can't do that, like says, you 0:03:09.697 --> 0:03:13.977 can not resubstantiate this, you know, this regime kind of 0:03:14.257 --> 0:03:17.417 just under a different way, just just with essays or 0:03:17.457 --> 0:03:19.937 something instead of test scores. But it's very clear again 0:03:20.017 --> 0:03:22.697 from the messages that places like Harvard scent that they 0:03:22.737 --> 0:03:25.057 intend to do so. And so the big question is 0:03:25.057 --> 0:03:28.337 going to be follow through. So often, especially on the right, 0:03:28.697 --> 0:03:31.857 we see, you know, the base sees an election or 0:03:31.977 --> 0:03:34.697 Supreme Court ruling or maybe a piece of legislation pass 0:03:34.897 --> 0:03:36.737 and say, oh great, the battle's one. I can go 0:03:36.777 --> 0:03:38.457 back to grilling, I can go back to raising my 0:03:38.457 --> 0:03:40.537 family and go back, you know, to just you know, 0:03:40.617 --> 0:03:43.857 being a normal citizen. But that's actually not what happens 0:03:43.977 --> 0:03:48.137 immediately afterwards. That ruling does not enforce itself. And if 0:03:48.137 --> 0:03:49.857 you don't have the mechanisms, if you don't have the 0:03:49.857 --> 0:03:52.377 institutions that are going to go after these people, if 0:03:52.417 --> 0:03:54.417 you don't have lawsuits, if you don't have a DOJ, 0:03:54.617 --> 0:03:56.577 obviously our current do is not going to do that. 0:03:56.697 --> 0:03:58.897 But you know, if you don't have a Trump or 0:03:58.937 --> 0:04:02.697 Desanti's DOJ later on, that starts pushing this kind of stuff, 0:04:02.737 --> 0:04:05.337 AG's all that stuff. If they don't follow up, then 0:04:05.377 --> 0:04:07.577 none of this actually happens. It's just a ruling that's 0:04:07.617 --> 0:04:08.177 dead in the water. 0:04:09.417 --> 0:04:13.697 Also, is me that given the arguments that were made 0:04:13.897 --> 0:04:18.657 in that blockbuster decision six ' three striking down affirmative 0:04:18.657 --> 0:04:23.217 action is unconstitutional in college admissions, how is it that 0:04:23.257 --> 0:04:28.697 we can still have racial preferences in hiring and racial 0:04:28.737 --> 0:04:33.897 preferences in government contract government contracts being given out to people? 0:04:33.937 --> 0:04:35.257 Do you know what I mean? It seems to me 0:04:35.337 --> 0:04:37.577 like this all the same arguments apply about all of this. 0:04:38.937 --> 0:04:40.857 Yeah, that's why this was such a huge ruling. It's 0:04:40.937 --> 0:04:43.377 not just the college admissions, though obviously that is a 0:04:43.457 --> 0:04:46.897 huge one, because, for better or for worse, admission to college, 0:04:46.977 --> 0:04:50.337 especially the IVY League, is kind of the elite signaler 0:04:50.417 --> 0:04:53.337 in our society. Getting that credential. I mean, you may 0:04:53.537 --> 0:04:55.617 be learning nothing there, you might just be getting some 0:04:55.697 --> 0:04:58.817 kind of gender studies trash degree, but just by having 0:04:59.017 --> 0:05:01.777 that credential, suddenly you're part of the elite. You're part 0:05:01.777 --> 0:05:04.377 of the ruling class. You've kind of got the golden ticket. 0:05:04.817 --> 0:05:07.417 And so the fact that that was racially biased, that 0:05:07.417 --> 0:05:11.897 that was particularly bent towards specific races, was a huge deal. 0:05:12.177 --> 0:05:16.417 But like you said, this affirmative action policy, you know, 0:05:16.577 --> 0:05:21.697 moves far beyond the academic sphere. It impacts everything in 0:05:21.737 --> 0:05:23.857 our society, especially when it comes to jobs and these 0:05:23.937 --> 0:05:26.337 kind of things. And so if this ruling applies there, 0:05:26.457 --> 0:05:28.457 then you would imagine the logic would travel to all 0:05:28.457 --> 0:05:33.417 these other institutions. But again, that can't happen without lawsuits. 0:05:33.417 --> 0:05:36.817 That can't happen without follow through legal pressure. I mean, 0:05:36.937 --> 0:05:41.617 state legislatures need to start banning affirmative action, and governors 0:05:41.657 --> 0:05:45.977 need to be passing, you know, whatever they can to 0:05:46.057 --> 0:05:48.297 make it clear that this won't be allowed in their states. 0:05:48.337 --> 0:05:50.217 This this has to be a follow through on every 0:05:50.337 --> 0:05:54.857 level that enables these different operatives, these different lawyers, these 0:05:54.857 --> 0:05:59.297 different attorneys general to kind of make this move. Hopefully 0:05:59.297 --> 0:06:01.497 once you get a Republican one in there, that will 0:06:01.497 --> 0:06:04.577 actually put the pressure not just on schools but on 0:06:04.697 --> 0:06:07.097 other institutions like corporations. 0:06:07.137 --> 0:06:12.657 Did you find that the arguments that came across from 0:06:12.777 --> 0:06:17.337 the A couple of the liberal justices who you know 0:06:17.377 --> 0:06:19.377 dissented from this ruling. There are three of them, but 0:06:19.497 --> 0:06:21.537 you know, two in particular, were really. 0:06:21.457 --> 0:06:22.137 Upset by this. 0:06:22.697 --> 0:06:26.177 It was interesting to see they really couldn't hide the 0:06:27.097 --> 0:06:31.457 emotional impact that this has on them specifically. But also 0:06:31.937 --> 0:06:34.497 I would assume more broadly, for people that really support 0:06:34.497 --> 0:06:37.377 this regime, and that the argument really seems to just 0:06:37.417 --> 0:06:40.457 be some version of we really like this, and life 0:06:40.857 --> 0:06:44.537 is unfair, and it's unfair for minorities, but only some minorities, 0:06:45.057 --> 0:06:47.377 and so it should continue just because we like it. 0:06:47.457 --> 0:06:50.017 I mean, I don't really understand. When I read through 0:06:50.057 --> 0:06:53.017 the dissense, it didn't really feel like there was an argument. 0:06:53.017 --> 0:06:55.097 It just felt like there's a lot of racism, and 0:06:55.137 --> 0:06:58.697 this helps with the racism because we say so yeah. 0:06:58.697 --> 0:07:00.257 I mean, in some ways you almost kind of have 0:07:00.297 --> 0:07:04.017 to respect the honesty there. Finally, we're not hiding behind 0:07:04.097 --> 0:07:07.377 any kind of legal tricks here. It's just the fact 0:07:07.457 --> 0:07:11.177 that this works well for the Democratic coalition. This gives 0:07:11.217 --> 0:07:13.457 benny's to people that we like. These are the people 0:07:13.497 --> 0:07:15.697 who vote for us, or are the people we identify with, 0:07:16.097 --> 0:07:18.697 and this benefits them, and therefore it should stay in 0:07:18.737 --> 0:07:22.177 place because we like it. And to be fair, this 0:07:22.257 --> 0:07:25.417 community has been told from time and memorium by the 0:07:25.457 --> 0:07:28.177 Democrats that this is the only system that holds them 0:07:28.177 --> 0:07:30.577 in place. This is the only way they could possibly 0:07:31.017 --> 0:07:33.617 get ahead or stay even even you know, at all, 0:07:33.977 --> 0:07:37.457 and so that if it ever was removed, then it's 0:07:37.497 --> 0:07:40.177 a catastrophe and all of a sudden, you know, these 0:07:40.177 --> 0:07:43.417 different minority communities will just kind of fall by the wayside. 0:07:43.697 --> 0:07:45.857 I mean, the whole point of affirmative action, the way 0:07:45.857 --> 0:07:48.497 it was sold to people in theory was that it 0:07:48.497 --> 0:07:51.737 was a temporary fix to kind of address the fact 0:07:51.777 --> 0:07:54.497 that some people had not had a fair shake historically 0:07:54.497 --> 0:07:56.777 in the United States. But if that doesn't come with 0:07:56.777 --> 0:08:00.657 an expiration date. Then all you're doing is creating a new, 0:08:01.057 --> 0:08:05.617 different type of systemic racism. It's just now targeting people 0:08:05.737 --> 0:08:09.777 like whites and Asians as opposed to other minority groups. 0:08:10.137 --> 0:08:12.817 And you can't keep that in place forever. But these 0:08:12.857 --> 0:08:15.537 people were told that, you know that is essential. You 0:08:15.577 --> 0:08:17.657 know that this is basically the only way that you 0:08:17.657 --> 0:08:20.577 can participate in society, which should be kind of insulting, 0:08:20.737 --> 0:08:23.817 but I guess for some you know that is something 0:08:23.817 --> 0:08:24.857 you've taken as gospel. 0:08:25.177 --> 0:08:27.177 Did you see there was a there was a tweet 0:08:27.177 --> 0:08:31.097 that came out that went quite quite viral from a 0:08:31.097 --> 0:08:35.337 Democrat activist trying, I'm actually, I'm actually gonna pull this 0:08:35.377 --> 0:08:39.977 one up. Her name is Erica Marsh, Proud, Democrat, former 0:08:40.017 --> 0:08:44.217 field organizer for Biden. She her, of course, you know, 0:08:44.257 --> 0:08:47.457 because we have to know that one. But she had 0:08:47.457 --> 0:08:51.657 this tweet that that's gotten seen millions of times, and 0:08:51.697 --> 0:08:53.857 this was the day that the decision came out. Her 0:08:53.897 --> 0:08:58.657 tweet was, today's Supreme Court decision is a direct assault, 0:08:58.857 --> 0:09:02.737 I'm sorry, a direct attack on black people. No black 0:09:02.777 --> 0:09:05.777 person will be able to succeed in a merit based system, 0:09:06.097 --> 0:09:09.577 which is exactly why affirmative action based programs were needed 0:09:09.777 --> 0:09:16.057 to decision. Is a travesty, like ten million views of 0:09:16.097 --> 0:09:20.257 this Basically, this has just gone completely virus a Democrat. Yeah, 0:09:20.337 --> 0:09:23.897 and I do think it raises some very uh, very 0:09:23.977 --> 0:09:29.337 uncomfortable questions about Democrats what they really think in the 0:09:29.377 --> 0:09:31.497 affirmative action regime. I mean, you kind of keep running 0:09:31.497 --> 0:09:35.177 into this, Oh, it doesn't change the standards. But if 0:09:35.177 --> 0:09:38.577 you change the standards, then you won't have black and 0:09:38.657 --> 0:09:41.777 Hispanic students getting into these schools or you know what 0:09:41.817 --> 0:09:43.937 I'm saying, Like, if you don't have the standards changing, 0:09:43.977 --> 0:09:45.857 they won't get in. But it doesn't change the standards, 0:09:45.897 --> 0:09:48.097 and if you don't change the standards, they can't get 0:09:48.137 --> 0:09:50.257 in in the numbers. And I mean in her case 0:09:50.257 --> 0:09:52.497 she said that like none of them, which is insane. 0:09:52.897 --> 0:09:56.017 But there's a problem here, right, the argument has a problem. 0:09:56.937 --> 0:10:00.137 Yeah, obviously it's it's a pretty awkward argument to make, 0:10:00.297 --> 0:10:02.777 if you know, if you're on that side. But at 0:10:02.777 --> 0:10:05.577 the same time, you have to remember the Democrats do 0:10:05.697 --> 0:10:08.457 get like ninety percent of the black vote on a 0:10:08.497 --> 0:10:11.377 regular basis, right, So for better or for worse, this 0:10:11.457 --> 0:10:16.337 is an argument that seems to be routinely winning people 0:10:16.417 --> 0:10:19.977 over to that side. I don't know what that says 0:10:20.097 --> 0:10:23.937 about how people feel about their opportunity inside the United States, 0:10:24.137 --> 0:10:26.977 but it's obviously not a narrative that can survive if 0:10:26.977 --> 0:10:29.577 you're going to have a society with any form of 0:10:29.697 --> 0:10:32.937 kind of racial harmony. You have a group that's being 0:10:32.977 --> 0:10:35.657 told all of the time that if there's not this 0:10:35.857 --> 0:10:39.297 artificial system elevating them, then they have no hope inside 0:10:39.297 --> 0:10:43.137 of meritocracy, and the group continually and regularly votes for 0:10:43.137 --> 0:10:45.617 the people who tell them that, which is a pretty 0:10:45.697 --> 0:10:46.817 terrible feedback loop. 0:10:47.737 --> 0:10:50.017 I want to ask in a moment here or if 0:10:50.017 --> 0:10:55.257 we are in a place where increasingly conservatives point to 0:10:55.777 --> 0:11:03.177 the Constitution and the response, whether over or more subtle 0:11:03.577 --> 0:11:05.937 in the background from democrats in the left, is so 0:11:06.137 --> 0:11:10.897 what and how that is manifesting itself in our institutions 0:11:11.017 --> 0:11:13.017 and our lay to day life here. 0:11:13.857 --> 0:11:15.337 So we'll get back to that in just a second. 0:11:15.377 --> 0:11:18.497 But first off, everybody, there are a few sensations that 0:11:18.537 --> 0:11:20.617 are better than feeling like you have the energy to 0:11:20.697 --> 0:11:23.497 take on the world and win. 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Heller, and you look at this, and 0:12:29.137 --> 0:12:30.497 I think there are others that would come to mind 0:12:30.577 --> 0:12:33.417 right away where we say, okay, So this is the law, 0:12:33.417 --> 0:12:35.577 and then the left just figures out ways to say, well, 0:12:35.657 --> 0:12:36.737 what are you going to do about it? 0:12:36.817 --> 0:12:37.817 How are you going to enforce it? 0:12:39.257 --> 0:12:42.817 Yeah, I think that's an increasingly difficult problem for conservatives 0:12:42.857 --> 0:12:46.377 to address because again they do feel like, okay, well, 0:12:46.417 --> 0:12:50.017 we won the constitutional argument, we got the judges appointed, 0:12:50.257 --> 0:12:53.497 they ruled in our favor, we got the president elected, 0:12:54.057 --> 0:12:56.697 we got this piece of legislation passed, and obviously from 0:12:56.697 --> 0:12:58.817 here on out now that this is the law, the 0:12:58.857 --> 0:13:01.417 constitution says you have to follow it and will be fine. 0:13:01.697 --> 0:13:04.897 But that's not what actually happens. Right over and over again, 0:13:04.977 --> 0:13:07.857 we see, you know, things like the executive branch just 0:13:07.897 --> 0:13:10.617 to ignore executive orders from Donald Trump right that they 0:13:10.697 --> 0:13:13.457 just don't care. Barack Obama says, hey, I'm going to 0:13:13.497 --> 0:13:15.777 have this, dear colleague letter. All of a sudden, everybody 0:13:16.257 --> 0:13:18.857 has let guys use the girl's bathroom, and it happens 0:13:18.897 --> 0:13:21.937 overnight in a snap. Trump says, hey, you can't do 0:13:21.937 --> 0:13:24.737 affirmative you can't rather, you can't do a diversity, equity 0:13:24.737 --> 0:13:27.577 and inclusion training, and they get an executive ranch and 0:13:27.697 --> 0:13:30.137 members of the executive branch just say, so what I'm 0:13:30.177 --> 0:13:32.697 going to keep doing? It right, And the problem is 0:13:32.737 --> 0:13:36.057 that the Democrats, whether you like it or not, understand 0:13:36.297 --> 0:13:38.257 that at the end of the day, it's about political 0:13:38.337 --> 0:13:41.817 will and not just laws on paper. Laws on paper 0:13:41.897 --> 0:13:45.577 might be good, but really they're only enforced if people 0:13:45.977 --> 0:13:48.697 who are in positions of power believe in them and 0:13:48.737 --> 0:13:51.937 whether the people around them hold them to account. And 0:13:51.977 --> 0:13:54.097 so the Democrats have been playing this game for a 0:13:54.137 --> 0:13:56.857 long time with sanctuary cities and states and those kind 0:13:56.857 --> 0:14:01.737 of things that just completely ignore the dictates of the Constitution, laws, 0:14:01.817 --> 0:14:04.097 you know, Supreme Court rulings, those kind of things, and 0:14:04.177 --> 0:14:06.297 Republicans are going to have to learn this trick because 0:14:06.297 --> 0:14:09.377 we're already seeing, for instance, different courts that are trying 0:14:09.417 --> 0:14:12.697 to strike down these no grooming laws, these laws that 0:14:12.777 --> 0:14:17.857 ban child mutilation inside states that we call a sexual 0:14:17.857 --> 0:14:21.177 transition gender transition, and states are trying to knock these down. 0:14:21.217 --> 0:14:23.777 At some point, Republican governors are just going to have 0:14:23.777 --> 0:14:25.937 to pull the same trick, call the bluff and say, okay, 0:14:26.057 --> 0:14:27.577 you have that ruling, now enforce it. 0:14:28.697 --> 0:14:30.777 Yeah, it does seem like the left is much more 0:14:30.777 --> 0:14:35.137 comfortable with de facto nullification of Supreme Court decisions, that's 0:14:35.137 --> 0:14:37.177 for sure. They just decide, yeah, well, what are you 0:14:37.217 --> 0:14:39.817 really going to do about it? They certainly do this 0:14:39.977 --> 0:14:43.257 on Second Amendment issues where they blatantly violate the Constitution, 0:14:44.017 --> 0:14:46.617 and their attitude this is true in New York City, 0:14:46.657 --> 0:14:52.577 for example, on handgun permitting. Their attitude is, yeah, we 0:14:52.617 --> 0:14:54.817 know what we're doing is a violation of your rights, 0:14:54.817 --> 0:14:57.697 but it's going to take you five maybe ten years 0:14:57.737 --> 0:15:00.857 to even get Supreme Court to look at this. So 0:15:00.937 --> 0:15:04.217 in the meantime, we get to just violate your rights 0:15:04.337 --> 0:15:06.577 get what we want as a policy matter. No one's 0:15:06.617 --> 0:15:08.217 going to stop us from it. In a blue state 0:15:08.297 --> 0:15:10.937 like New York and tough, you know that that really 0:15:10.977 --> 0:15:12.817 is the attitude they take. That's what they do. 0:15:14.137 --> 0:15:17.377 Yeah, and unfortunately it's a winning strategy when you have 0:15:17.937 --> 0:15:22.217 a kind of moral visions that are so incredibly divergent. 0:15:22.377 --> 0:15:25.577 In the United States, it really is just the case 0:15:25.657 --> 0:15:28.817 that the people who again care more about winning, are 0:15:28.857 --> 0:15:31.417 just going to beat those who are playing by the rules, 0:15:31.457 --> 0:15:35.257 playing by procedure. Now, that just means that Republicans have 0:15:35.337 --> 0:15:38.897 to understand that you're in the same position if your 0:15:39.017 --> 0:15:42.417 state legitimately passes a regulation that says, sorry, we don't 0:15:42.457 --> 0:15:45.297 mutilate children here then it doesn't really matter what a 0:15:45.377 --> 0:15:48.577 judge says. If they're lying about the Constitution, you just 0:15:48.697 --> 0:15:50.977 kind of have to be like, Okay, well, we're still 0:15:51.017 --> 0:15:53.817 not going to do that. And unless you know, no 0:15:53.817 --> 0:15:56.457 one's going to come and force us to mutilate these kids. 0:15:56.457 --> 0:15:58.657 So we're just not going to allow that to happen 0:15:58.737 --> 0:16:01.137 under our watch. It's not the way that you want 0:16:01.177 --> 0:16:04.057 a republic to run. It's not how rule of law 0:16:04.097 --> 0:16:06.377 is supposed to work. But on one side has kind 0:16:06.377 --> 0:16:09.337 of broken this compact. You can't just sit around pointing 0:16:09.377 --> 0:16:12.777 and sputtering, right, that doesn't work. Oh, they're the real hypocrites, 0:16:12.817 --> 0:16:15.857 you know. No, that doesn't do anything. 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So we have a number of 0:17:53.297 --> 0:17:57.177 states or in that are passing laws that say that 0:17:57.297 --> 0:18:02.657 children should should not be subjected to hormone blockers or 0:18:03.497 --> 0:18:07.337 transgender surgery, which they're now calling gender affirmation surgery, which 0:18:07.377 --> 0:18:10.937 is itself a propaganda term. I've already seen at least 0:18:10.977 --> 0:18:13.417 one is that one. Maybe there are more judges have 0:18:13.497 --> 0:18:17.817 said no, you can't do that, which I mean, this 0:18:17.937 --> 0:18:20.497 is how crazy things go. They start doing something that's 0:18:20.537 --> 0:18:22.777 never been done before. The state says, you know what, 0:18:22.937 --> 0:18:25.097 we're we're actually not going to allow that, And now 0:18:25.137 --> 0:18:28.737 you've got federal judges who were effectively saying no, there's 0:18:28.777 --> 0:18:32.017 a basic constitutional right for a twelve year old to 0:18:32.057 --> 0:18:34.697 cut off as genitals. I mean, that's what these judges 0:18:34.737 --> 0:18:35.177 are doing. 0:18:36.377 --> 0:18:36.657 Yeah. 0:18:36.697 --> 0:18:41.017 Absolutely, these these judges know that they can't allow states 0:18:41.057 --> 0:18:43.297 to stand in the way of the civil rights revolution. 0:18:43.377 --> 0:18:46.777 They've decided that this is the new civil rights movement, 0:18:46.857 --> 0:18:49.697 this is the new frontier of the civil rights revolution, 0:18:49.937 --> 0:18:52.217 and they're going to be the guys who kind of 0:18:52.257 --> 0:18:55.537 push this through. Don't let those ugly, bigoted states stand 0:18:55.537 --> 0:18:57.657 in the way of you know, the mutilation of twelve 0:18:57.697 --> 0:19:00.057 year olds, and it's just insane. We've seen this across 0:19:00.097 --> 0:19:02.577 the board, right we over the weekend we had footage 0:19:02.617 --> 0:19:05.097 coming from these Pride parades like that, I believe the 0:19:05.097 --> 0:19:08.817 one in Seattle where grown men are just completely exposing themselves, 0:19:08.937 --> 0:19:11.777 riding bicycles around as part of the parade, waiving their 0:19:11.857 --> 0:19:15.257 junk in front of crowds full of children. And last 0:19:15.257 --> 0:19:17.897 time I checked, that's illegal, right, like, like no one, 0:19:18.017 --> 0:19:20.777 we didn't. We didn't get rid of you know, indecent 0:19:20.817 --> 0:19:23.257 exposure laws that's supposed to put you on some sex 0:19:23.257 --> 0:19:27.417 of sex offender registry list. And yet these people are 0:19:27.417 --> 0:19:29.937 doing it on a regular basis, with no fear from 0:19:30.057 --> 0:19:33.937 law enforcement, no expectation that they'll be arrested, no expectation 0:19:34.057 --> 0:19:37.137 that they'll be prosecuted. And this is a huge problem, 0:19:37.177 --> 0:19:40.737 Like this cannot be allowed in the United States. We 0:19:40.777 --> 0:19:43.497 cannot let some kind you know, dejure all this stuff 0:19:43.577 --> 0:19:46.497 is illegal. But to facto, this has all been legalized. 0:19:46.497 --> 0:19:49.177 And the even the police officers know this because they 0:19:49.217 --> 0:19:52.577 would never interrupt what has basically become like a state 0:19:52.657 --> 0:19:56.817 sanctioned you know, religious ritual in which these guys expose 0:19:56.897 --> 0:19:58.617 themselves to children and you know. 0:19:58.657 --> 0:20:02.417 I think depending on the jurisdiction we're talking about, and 0:20:02.577 --> 0:20:06.137 some of them, they might have even made nudity public 0:20:06.217 --> 0:20:08.817 nudity no longer illegal. I think that may be the 0:20:08.897 --> 0:20:12.257 chase in Seattle or San Francisco. So I approach it 0:20:12.297 --> 0:20:15.737 from the perspective of it's not even just a function 0:20:15.777 --> 0:20:19.337 of law, It's a function of what's what is decent? 0:20:19.497 --> 0:20:23.297 You know, what is uh something that should that should 0:20:23.457 --> 0:20:26.937 be exposed to kids and shouldn't. And I also just 0:20:27.057 --> 0:20:29.697 I have to wonder, what does being naked like? What 0:20:29.777 --> 0:20:32.497 does what does waving your genitalia around as a man 0:20:32.617 --> 0:20:35.417 or as a woman in a parade have to do 0:20:35.697 --> 0:20:39.297 with basic human you know, human rights and dignity and 0:20:39.337 --> 0:20:42.457 pride and whatever like? What what is with and not 0:20:42.577 --> 0:20:44.057 just the newity. We can take a little bit on this. 0:20:44.457 --> 0:20:46.257 Why were there all these pride parades and this is 0:20:46.297 --> 0:20:48.497 every year? This is not I used to live right 0:20:48.537 --> 0:20:50.137 next to the Pride parade rout of New York City, 0:20:50.137 --> 0:20:53.817 so I have seen this firsthand many many times. There's 0:20:53.857 --> 0:20:56.617 a lot of like sex toys and bondage gear and 0:20:56.657 --> 0:21:01.457 all this stuff. People, you know, this isn't common outside 0:21:01.537 --> 0:21:05.297 of the lgbtqu I a plus plus plus activist. 0:21:04.857 --> 0:21:06.337 Community, Like, what is going on? 0:21:07.737 --> 0:21:10.657