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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Hary with you on a new episode

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Speaker 1: of Chargers Weekly. A bit later, I'll be joined by

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Speaker 1: Bronchos insider Troy Rank of Denver seven ABC. We'll discuss

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Speaker 1: the reported trade that has quarterback Joe Flacco going to

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Speaker 1: Denver and what it means for the Bronchos in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: But first, Luke Easterling of USA Today's Draftwire joins me.

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Speaker 1: He'll detail whom he has the Chargers selecting in his

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Speaker 1: latest three round mock draft. All right, guys, two weeks

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Speaker 1: away from the NFL scouting combine very please be joined

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Speaker 1: by Luke Easterling of USA Today's Draftwire. Luke, thanks you

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Speaker 1: spend some time, man. How are you? Hey? Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, man. I'm doing great. This is the season

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Speaker 1: for me, so I'm having a blatt. Oh. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you are grinding right now, and you just released a

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Speaker 1: three round mock draft. We'll get into that in a second,

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Speaker 1: but let's start with the biggest draft news of the week.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray is all in, man. He's all

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Speaker 1: in on the NFL. He announced it on Twitter. It

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Speaker 1: adds another layer of intrigue to the combine. What was

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Speaker 1: your reaction to the news and how do you think

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Speaker 1: it's going to affect the draft overall. You know, my

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Speaker 1: reaction to the news is, you know, cautious optimism. I guess,

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Speaker 1: you know, I still think it's a very fluid situation.

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Speaker 1: I think it still could go either way, because I mean,

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Speaker 1: is realizing that you know, they are a commodity, they

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Speaker 1: Murray for trying to maximize his earning potential in whatever

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Speaker 1: for the best. I think at the top of the draft.

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Speaker 1: It makes things very interesting because you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at last year, Cleveland Browns kind of broke the mold

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Speaker 1: you know, will that set more of a tone this year,

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Speaker 1: Will more teams be able to see that blueprint and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: if we can do the same thing with a guy

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Speaker 1: maybe we could look past, you know, some of the

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Speaker 1: he's not the prototypical quarterback prospect. Maybe we can still

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Speaker 1: it definitely throws quite a wrench at the top of

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Speaker 1: this draft. It's a quarterback class that's kind of begging

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Speaker 1: for more. Top prospect Dwayne Haskins from Ohio States obviously

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Speaker 1: today's NFO. I mean, I think it should. I think

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Speaker 1: So I do think that teams are still very slow

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Speaker 1: wouldn't think it's realistic for the Arizona Cardinals to hire

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Speaker 1: swim for the fences. So, you know, mock drafts in February.

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Speaker 1: generating conversation. It's about presenting different scenarios and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: story this week. Jeffrey Simmons, the defensive tackle from Mississippi

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Speaker 1: go through your three round mock chargers. Pick at twenty

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Speaker 1: eight overall, Jerry Tillery of Notre Dame, go into the balls.

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Speaker 1: He's six six over three hundred pounds. What do you

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Speaker 1: But Fangio got good reports. Again, like you said, he

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Speaker 1: knew Joe way back early in his career, so they

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Speaker 1: felt like it was worth taking the risk. And remember

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Speaker 1: his deal in Flacco, he's getting eighteen point five million

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Speaker 1: this year, but the next two years of his deal

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Speaker 1: are not guaranteed, so like with Keenum, they could move

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Speaker 1: on from this after one year, and they could still

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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the first round, though I think

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Speaker 1: this makes that much less likely. So Flacco, listen, it

437
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Speaker 1: was twenty fifteen last time he was in the playoffs,

438
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Speaker 1: but ten and five in the playoffs, and every year

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Speaker 1: did he's played all sixteen games, which is nine of

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Speaker 1: eleven seasons he's been five hundred or better. So I

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Speaker 1: have to imagine that had to have factored in a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and wanting to make this move and thinking

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Speaker 1: that this is an upgrade from Keenum. Yeah, his availability

444
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Speaker 1: is a critical part of it. As you mentioned, he

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Speaker 1: played full seasons in nine of his first eleven seasons.

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Speaker 1: Last year I only played nine games in part because

447
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Speaker 1: of a right hipped injury, and then he lost his job.

448
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Speaker 1: So he probably would have missed two games last year

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Speaker 1: had he not lost his job. And availability is key,

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Speaker 1: but so as performance. I mean, that's I'm I'm keeping

451
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Speaker 1: an open mind here, but you know my background is

452
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Speaker 1: baseball covered it forever. So I gotta see can he

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Speaker 1: turn it on again at an age where typically it's

454
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Speaker 1: hard to you know, snap a decline. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: at thirty four, trending the wrong way. Now again, maybe

456
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: this change revigorates him. He looked disinterested at times, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: his last year in Baltimore and losing the job certainly

458
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Speaker 1: didn't help. But we'll see again. It's an interesting gamble

459
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Speaker 1: for a team that, you know, they just took stock

460
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Speaker 1: and said they can't win with Keenham. They weren't gonna

461
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Speaker 1: win with Keenam, So you take a swing with Joe Flacco,

462
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Speaker 1: a guy who has won big games. Again. The key

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Speaker 1: is he's got to get to the big games. He's

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Speaker 1: got to play well enough to make games matter later

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Speaker 1: in the season, and if he does that, then this

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Speaker 1: move pays off. They get to the playoffs. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes we look at these moves in a vacuum, but

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Speaker 1: you have to take a lot of things into consideration.

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Speaker 1: You know, Courtland Sutton, he looks to be one of

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Speaker 1: the next best receivers in this league. Dashawn Hamilton. You

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Speaker 1: couple that with the arm of Joe Flacco. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they envisioned that, right, you have a Pro Bowl running

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Speaker 1: back and Philip Lindsay got Royce Freeman back there as well.

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Speaker 1: A couple that with the receivers in Flacco's arm, they

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Speaker 1: probably envision maybe some more points onto board in twenty nineteen. Well,

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Speaker 1: they got to be better offensively than offensively they've been

477
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Speaker 1: in the bottom third in every meaningful category and one

478
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Speaker 1: year they won the Super Bowl, it was the worst

479
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Speaker 1: yardage output by a Super Bowl winner in that game ever,

480
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Speaker 1: So that was an aberration. It was a wonderful and

481
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Speaker 1: delightful aberation for Broccos fans. But their defense that your

482
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Speaker 1: scored six touchdowns, their defense was like the third best

483
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Speaker 1: offensive players. So they've got to get to the point

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Speaker 1: where they're more effective in the red zone, they hold

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Speaker 1: the ball longer, and this point scored, I mean they're

486
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Speaker 1: around right around twenty in elgue now where you need

487
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Speaker 1: to be around twenty four. And I know that doesn't

488
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Speaker 1: sound significant, but it is. Over the course of a season,

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Speaker 1: you score twenty four twenty five points, typically you're winning.

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Speaker 1: You score twenty eighteen, you're always vulnerable and you have

491
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Speaker 1: no margin for air. So another key is Emmanuel Sanders.

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Speaker 1: This move says they're going to keep him. He's coming

493
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Speaker 1: back from Achilles surgery. He will be healthy. He's older too,

494
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Speaker 1: but that guy, he puts it all on the field

495
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Speaker 1: on Sundays. We wondered about his status, but away, In

496
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Speaker 1: my opinion, they will move on from him now because

497
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Speaker 1: that deep threat is one of the things that Flacco

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Speaker 1: needs and the other the one issue with his offense.

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Speaker 1: If it's gonna work for Flacco, they've got to establish

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Speaker 1: a tight end. It's a consistent passing game. Thrill and

501
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Speaker 1: Jeff Hierman looked like he might be coming along and

502
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Speaker 1: then he got hurt again and that's been really his

503
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: career has been defined by injuries. Jake Butt has this

504
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: amazing talent, but he's now had what three ACL surgeries,

505
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Speaker 1: two in the pros. You know, I think he's gonna

506
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Speaker 1: be really good, but I don't know what I can

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Speaker 1: count on. You just don't know. So when Flacco was

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Speaker 1: right when I covered them in fourteen and they beat

509
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Speaker 1: the Steelers in Hines Field, the tight ends were a

510
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Speaker 1: huge part of that. And they've got to find a

511
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Speaker 1: way to get some tight ends involved in the passing

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Speaker 1: game for him to be effective consistently. Well, there's a

513
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Speaker 1: lot of good tight ends in this upcoming draft, and

514
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Speaker 1: I also imagine offensive line. You want to protect that

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Speaker 1: investment at at least for the twenty nineteen season. Is

516
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Speaker 1: Oline going to be a free agency priority to Troy, Well,

517
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be part of it, because you know their

518
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Speaker 1: best lineman, Matt Pettis is a free agent the center,

519
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Speaker 1: and I know they'd like to keep him, but I

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Speaker 1: believe they'd let him test the market, and if he

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Speaker 1: gets the Ryansdnston type offer on the open market, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he'll be back here. So now you'd have

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Speaker 1: a hole at center. I would bring back Jared Beldier.

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Speaker 1: He was serviceable at right tackle, frankly their first serviceable

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Speaker 1: right tackle since the Super Bowl years. I would try

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Speaker 1: to bring him back on a modest deal and then

527
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Speaker 1: draft his replacement in April. But the line's a question

528
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Speaker 1: mark man. But their best offseason addition so far to

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Speaker 1: me has been Mike Munchek, former Steelers line coach, him

530
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Speaker 1: coming aboard as the line coach, former head coach that

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Speaker 1: he everywhere he's gone. Pass protections improved because the Broncos

532
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Speaker 1: can run block. They've actually been pretty effective run block

533
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Speaker 1: in the last two years, even as their offense was underwhelming.

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Speaker 1: But Munchek will help and if he could make Garrett

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Speaker 1: Bolls a functional pass blocker, that would be a huge boost.

536
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Speaker 1: But yeah, the offensive lines of question, because the one

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Speaker 1: thing with Flacco, part of the reason I wasn't crazy

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Speaker 1: about the move, is he other than what Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: and Roethlisberger rivers. There's like three guys now that are

540
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: completely immobile. Roethlisberg is bigger, But you know, Joe Flacco

541
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Speaker 1: is not going to avoid tax. That's not his game.

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Speaker 1: And the Broncos have issues in pass protection. So I wonder, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, is this a great fit. But with Muntcheck

544
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Speaker 1: at a new lineman, I mean, obviously they're connecting the dots.

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Speaker 1: They can improve Troy. What does this mean for case Keenenham?

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Speaker 1: Is this a trade situation, a release situation and Why

547
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Speaker 1: do you think they moved on so quickly given a

548
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Speaker 1: lot of less season struggles. You can put a good

549
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: chunk of it on him, but certainly not all of it.

550
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Speaker 1: Well he's I don't see him coming back. They're going

551
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Speaker 1: to try to trade him. Maybe you get the Giants

552
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: and or Cardinals interest that he's had success with both

553
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Speaker 1: those coaches, with Kingsbury and of Houston and with Sermer

554
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: at Minnesota, So maybe that the contract complicated it. I

555
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard to trade him. Maybe he can,

556
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Speaker 1: but I don't see him back. Even though he's been

557
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: a backup, he's a class act. He would be a

558
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: pearl in the room. I don't see him coming back

559
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: and being there with Flacco. That doesn't make a lot

560
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Speaker 1: of sense. Just it's a weird vibe to bring back

561
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: the former starter who was going to be the man.

562
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: And Keenom's case, the problem was this, they needed him

563
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: to take more chances, and he took more chances, he

564
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: threw more picks, so when the only time he played well,

565
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: he got so conservative they couldn't score and he stopped

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Speaker 1: turning the ball over for like a six game stretch,

567
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: but he had no deep plays no chunk plays and

568
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Speaker 1: they kind of he would he will. I asked him

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Speaker 1: this last week when I talked to him, and you know,

570
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Speaker 1: I'm not I told him, I don't think the Broncos

571
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: quarterback job was too big for you necessarily, but it

572
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: was bigger than you thought. And he said, well, I

573
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: don't know about that. You know, I knew, and I

574
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: don't think he ever understood what it was like to

575
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Speaker 1: be what it was going to mean to be the

576
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Speaker 1: Broncos quarterback just because he was in Minnesota's played in

577
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: big games. Broncos fans have no patience until the past year.

578
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: They had that back to back losing season since nineteen

579
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: seventy two, they don't suffer losing well. First game of

580
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: the season, he's getting booed. They're cheering for Chad Kelly. Yeah,

581
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that wasn't in his mind when he

582
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: signed a two year contract for a twenty six million

583
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: He thought he had, Hey, I got you know this

584
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: first year, worked through some stuff. Second year. We find

585
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: that's not how it works around here. And it's hurt

586
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: them frankly because they keep band aiding their roster thinking

587
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: they're one or two players away. But you know, Keadam's

588
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: a good guy. I think in hindsight, this past year

589
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: proved he's basically a backup. He's a solid backup and

590
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: a relief pitcher. If you bring him in, you like him.

591
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: But he when playing a full season, he couldn't make

592
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: it happen. It wasn't all his fault. That's not fair.

593
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't all his fault. But they decided after they

594
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: stepped back that they couldn't win with him going forward. Yeah,

595
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: you look at it. I think a lot of people

596
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: are saying, is Flacco really an upgrade? But listen, if

597
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: you get to the postseason in Flagco's got fifteen more

598
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: playoff games, He's ten or five in the playoffs. So

599
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was certainly a consideration, Troy. If you

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Speaker 1: had control of that number ten overall pick in this

601
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: year's draft, where are you going? If you're the devil Broncos.

602
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go cornerback or inside linebacker. LS

603
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: used the place to look with Rudy Williams and or

604
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: Devin Smith, the linebacker. I actually met Devin Smith. I

605
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: was coaching baseball at Baton Ridge this summer. Big personality,

606
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: big hitter, fast guy. They've got improved there because their

607
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: coverage of tight ends has just been awful and it's

608
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: something that continues to just create problems for them defensively,

609
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: especially on third down. But they really only have one

610
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: corner coming back, Chris Harris. Maybe they break from brock back,

611
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: but he didn't play much and Frankly was just okay

612
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: when he played. Bradley Roby. Are they going to give

613
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 1: him eight ten million after the year he had at

614
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: the starter? He was really good at nickelback then they

615
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: when they made him the starter last year he was

616
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: wildly inconsistent. But he's still a valuable guy in the

617
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: market and he might get paid. So for me, it's

618
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: probably right. And as we sit here, on paper, it'd

619
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Speaker 1: probably be cornerback followed by linebacker and then offensive line Troy.

620
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Final thing for you when you look at the AFC

621
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: West as we talk here in February, right, the Chiefs

622
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: and Chargers both finished twelve and four. What's your early

623
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: forecast for this division in twenty nineteen? Recognized it, We

624
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: got a long way to go with the drafting, free agency. Yeah,

625
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I thought the Chargers were gonna win it last year.

626
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think Mahomes would be that guy. And I

627
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: love Patrick Mahomes. LaTroy Hawkins is his godfather, and I've

628
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: known about Patrick Mahomes since he was like twelve years old.

629
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Latroy's been telling me about the kid, but I had

630
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: no I thought he might have thirty touchdowns in sixteen

631
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: picks as a rookie. I never thought in a million

632
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: years he's been MVP. So because of him, they're the

633
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: slight favor, but they had real interests in the playoffs. Frankly,

634
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: they just got run over by the Patriots at home,

635
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, like they couldn't stop him. Now they got

636
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: back into that game, but the reality was they got

637
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: crushed for the better part the first two and a

638
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: half quarters. So they're the favorite now. They've earned that right.

639
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: They have dominated the AFC West in a way that

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Speaker 1: my concern for them. And I love Philip Rivers. I

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Speaker 1: love that he's the heel of the division. I like

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Speaker 1: If he's on the other side, and you want him

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Speaker 1: I think he's got at least one more really good year.

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Speaker 1: But for me, the Chiefs are still the class of

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. Part of the reason they get Flacco is

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Speaker 1: in an honest moment, would rank Kingham behind Car. Now

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Speaker 1: I don't know that, but you have an argument that

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Speaker 1: win five or six games? Bille Flacco has done that,

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Speaker 1: so maybe you close the gap a little bit if

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Speaker 1: there's some regression with Rivers, so you feel like you're

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Speaker 1: right around the second best quarterback. But we'll see again.

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Speaker 1: Rivers has earned the right. He's been a great player,

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Speaker 1: but mahomes because of him, they're going to be in

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Speaker 1: that conversation to win the division pretty much every year.

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Speaker 1: He's their starting quarterback. Troy Ranked, Denver seven, ABC. Troy,

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Speaker 1: Just when you think you have some time to maybe

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Speaker 1: take a breath and relax us offseason, you get hit

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Speaker 1: with this news man. Awesome stuff. Can't they get up

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Speaker 1: for your time anytime? Pleasure joining you look forward to

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Speaker 1: seeing it to Combine and that's gonna do it. My

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Speaker 1: thanks to Troy Rank and Luke Easterling for joining me,

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Speaker 1: and of course thanks to you all for listening. Don't forget.

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Speaker 1: If you like what you hear this offseason, be sure

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Speaker 1: be back during the week of the NFL Scout and

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Speaker 1: Combine for our one hundredth episode of Charges Weekly. It'll

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Speaker 1: be a stack show from Indy. We're looking forward to it,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend, and until next time, I'm Chris

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