1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Hian, Welcome to the It Girl Podcast time. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: We have one of my favorite people today, and you're 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: one of my favorite people. Sophie Cohen, one of the 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: original IT Girls, the first influencer that ever did hit Girl, 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: and I couldn't have done it without her. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to have you today. Andrew my 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: style inspiration. Everyone's stop. She is the Carrie Bradshaw stop. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: I love you. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: I'm honored that I was the first girl on it 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: Girl because it's iconic, and I'm so proud of you. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: You've created like the coolest, most amazing thing ever. 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: I love you and I'm so glad you're here. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: I want to get into your style because you have 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: such cool, unique style that I feel like is really 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: your signature. I feel like there's a lot of fashion 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: girls out there, but your style is like I will 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: go shopping like this is so so co I just 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: can like see everyone knows when. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: It's yeah, and I feel like that's so special. So 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: was your style always this way or has it evolved? 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: I feel like, honestly, from a very young age, style 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: was always my thing. I grew up my family. You 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: know my mom, she's very into fashion. My grandmother, even 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: my grandpa all worked in retail, so it was always 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: a part of my blood. And I always, like, from 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: the first I could remember, I was. 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: Always super girly. I always loved pink. 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: I always loved wearing things that were different from everyone else. 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: I grew up in Seattle. Seattle sisters, tattle. 30 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: That's another there's not many of us, yeah doing it. 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: So yeah, But my family is actually from New York. 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: My parents both grew up in New York, so I 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: grew up coming to New York every summer. My mom 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: brought my brother and I. Those trips really sparked so 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: much in me. But I think those trips having the 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: opportunity to like go to New York and like see 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: all the fashion and see all the stores. Like ever 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: since I was so young, I would go to New 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: York get all this stuff that you couldn't get in Seattle, 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: and like do a hall for my best friend of 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: like this is what I got in New York. 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just all. 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: Always love to dress different and stand out. And I 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: feel like my style has really evolved over time. 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: As I've evolved. 46 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: I always, you know, kind of say that personal style 47 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: evolves as you evolve as a person, depending on what's 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: going on in your life. But I will say, like what, 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: I can show you pictures of me as a little girl, 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: like it's the same, Like it very much has stayed true, 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: but just like elevated, I would say, I. 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: Can imagine little Sophie and like pink, so oh yeah, 53 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: it's a leopard, no liter or shout out. Sue's another 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: it girl and the girl the Ultimate girl, totally Sue's 55 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: one percent. Is there anything that people common about your 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: style that surprises you, Like are people accepting of it? 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Or do you feel like you're surprised by people's reaction 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: to your like really bold style, I. 59 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, knock on wood. 60 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: I feel really lucky that I don't get much like 61 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: hate on my style. 62 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I do think it does. 63 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: It's not for everyone, Like it doesn't resonate for everyone, 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: but I kind of like that, you know, like I 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: would rather wear some thing that not everyone likes but 66 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: they're talking about, then just wear something boring that like 67 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: everyone likes. You know. I will say all the time, 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: I get DMS and messages like you were saying, like 69 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: this is so you Like, I'll get like random messages 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: of like a pink thing on the real reel and 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: they're like, oh my gosh, I just thought of you, 72 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: like you need this, And that to me is such 73 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: an honor because I'm like, I love that people like 74 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: really recognize my style. I will say sometimes like I 75 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: do have you know in my Instagram bio and obviously 76 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm the queen of pink, but I wear every color. 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: I also can rock like an all black, So sometimes 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: people will be really intense, like if I'm wearing black, 79 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: They're like, where's your pink? Like sometimes people will get 80 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: like to attached to it, and I'm like, girl, we 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: do everything here, like it's okay, we can. 82 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen you in and all, 83 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I might be the same. I might be like, what's happening? No? 84 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: No, Sometimes people are like are you okay, and I'm like, no, 85 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: I'm just like kind of taking on a new personality today. 86 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, but I feel like overall people respond to 87 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 3: it well. And I think even if people wouldn't wear 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: some of the stuff I wear, I think the whole 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: essence of my style too, is just inspiring people to 90 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 3: kind of own what they like and wear what they 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: like and I think that resonates with people. 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: I also think to be a true fashion girl and 93 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: to be an icon, you really have to have like 94 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: people can look at a picture and they'll be like, 95 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: that's so kim Ka's so yeah, that's oh, that's so her. 96 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: And I feel like that is the sign that you're 97 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: not just like melting into all totally totally. 98 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: That's a no. 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: I think it's a great sign. And yeah, and I 100 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: think like, you know, our the whole internet specifically, but 101 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: like the whole fashion world and especially this wave of 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: like fashion influencers that has you know, happened in the 103 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: past few years. It's so oversaturated and also like so 104 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: many of us are getting gifted the same things and 105 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 3: with so many like it's like so much of the 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: same thing. So it's just like, yeah, I really try 107 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: and you know, not fall into the I don't know, 108 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: you just you got to stand out and like, you know, 109 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: and you gotta do something different, because if you think about, yeah, 110 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: all the fashion icons of our time, they were all 111 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: doing something different. Like I always want to be the 112 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: inspo and not copying what other people are doing. I 113 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: love that, Yeah, you're the insfo, not the followers exactly, 114 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: exactly exactly. 115 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: Is there a trend that you think people are doing 116 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: because of social media, not because they like it? Like, 117 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 2: is there a fashion trend that you're like that is 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: so social media driven? 119 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: I feel like there are so many, Like I feel 120 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: like every month, Yeah, there's like a different one. 121 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm trying, there's all these like little. 122 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of a specific one, but I 123 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: just think certain pieces or like vibes go viral, you know, 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: like for a while, there was the whole like quiet 125 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: luxury thing. 126 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you next your thoughts on 127 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: quiet think about it because you're the opposite, which I love. 128 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: I honestly I hate it, excuse my language. I have 129 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: always hated it. And I feel like now we're kind 130 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: of seeing in fashion this I feel like it's a 131 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: really it's a really fun, bright time in fashion. I 132 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: feel very inspired by what's going on in all the 133 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: cature house and all the big luxury houses and you know, 134 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: on the runways, Like there's so much freshness in the 135 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: fashion industry right now, and there's a lot more like 136 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: color and boldness, and I think, you know, fashion is 137 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: such a reflection too of like what's going on in 138 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: the world. And I think our world is very heavy 139 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: and you know, dark right now in a lot of ways. 140 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: And I think fashion is it can be this like 141 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: beautiful escape. 142 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: What are your fashion ins and outs for twenty twenty six? 143 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: Oh, good question. 144 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm personally loving like layering. I'm obsessed with all the layering. 145 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with just the obsessed archival surgeons. 146 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: Yep. Fashion ends I'm very into. I mean, right now, 147 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: it's all about the fur coat. I finally got one. 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: It's not real that I have been wearing it probably 149 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 3: every day for the last month. Ends for me always 150 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: animal yes, love love animal print, Leopard, and I'm really 151 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: I usually me and my friend Jess we have. 152 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: Also a style on Oh my God. She slays for 153 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: me every time. 154 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I am like, oh, your dress cooler than me? Yeah, 155 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: she's coolest cool. She just like exudes cool. 156 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: I always feel good that I see just and I'm like, yeah, 157 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: that's way cooler the one I can. 158 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, she has like a gift. She has a true 159 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: gift with styling. I feel like, Okay, twenty twenty six, 160 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: animal print always in. I'm loving snake skin. I'm usually 161 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: like more of a leopard girl. But I've been finding 162 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: a lot of cool also, like colored snake skin, like 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: I like like a colored animal print. Going back to 164 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: like this whole bold trend coming back like it's a lot, 165 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: but like if you can pull it off, like I 166 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: wore like these, I have these like hot pink leopard 167 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: print Cavali jeans and hot see if those I would 168 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: text you and be like Sophie, I found it exactly. 169 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: So I'm like, if you're gonna do it, like, do 170 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: it big. I am very into and I feel like 171 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: this is also gonna have a big moment in twenty 172 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: twenty six, especially spring summer, like sheer and lace and 173 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: fringe is having a fringe is not one hundred percent me. 174 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: Like that's, for example, a trend that like I love, 175 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: but it's like I'm not gonna be wearing all over 176 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: it's all happening, It's all over, it's all over, it's happening. 177 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: Jess is like the queen of fringe, but for me, 178 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: it's not something I'm wearing every day. 179 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: Fringe, I think is great. I'm more of a feathers 180 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: girl than a fringe. Oh. 181 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: I love feathers, love feathers. I'm very what else? 182 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 183 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: I'm very much a person like I see something and 184 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm inspired by it and like go for it. 185 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: I go for it, and I feel like. 186 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: I don't I don't have outs because I just like 187 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: always encourage people, like whatever I think you think is cool, 188 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: it is cool, and like, you know, my only out 189 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: is just like like, my only out is like following 190 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: these like random little micro tren like I just yeah, 191 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: like I think you could. Yeah, I'm trying to think 192 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: what else if anyone. 193 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Wants my else. 194 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: I don't like cobalt blue, I don't like bright purple, 195 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: and I don't like this choker necklace thing like the 196 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. 197 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Choker not like every day, not like the type blacked. 198 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: No other ins for me. Wait, what was I going 199 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: to say? I had one? Oh, corsets, I'm all corsets 200 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: are my obsession. Put me in a course of every single. 201 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: Put me in a corset every single day. I'm obsessed 202 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 3: with corsets. Also jewelry. I'm obsessed with chunky bangs, jewels, 203 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: and I'm obsessed with like these little dainty tennis necklaces. 204 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: Not real, but one day I love, love. 205 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: Love, It'll happen. Yeah, I could see it. Is there 206 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: a fashion era you think you would have thrived in? 207 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: I feel like both of our moms put such like 208 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: a sixties thing in US. 209 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, sixties, eighties maybe, Oh my god, you would have 210 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: been a cool eighties girl. 211 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that whole, like Studio fifty four 212 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: or Air I would have drived in. 213 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: I can't imagine Susie in the eighties. Yeah, crazy. I 214 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: don't think Susie was not as crazy as I am. Wow, okay, 215 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: love yeah, love. 216 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, not as crazy as I am. Not that I'm 217 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: that crazy, but I can be. Yeah, I'm trying to think. 218 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: I mean I love Yeah, I feel like your eighties, 219 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: eighties not I mean even some of the nineties too, 220 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: Like I'm some nineties sessions. 221 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be Kate Moss in the nineties. 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: That is that is my everything, always, every iconic. 223 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: I saw her in Paris twice in one day. Did 224 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: you say anything to her? No, because she's not that 225 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: kind of person. I saw it once and I couldn't. 226 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: I saw her walking into the YSL store, of course, duh. 227 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's a brand I'm also loving right now. Anything YSL. 228 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: I think they're slaying for me as well. So cool. 229 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,239 Speaker 1: Of course she's there, the ultimate. 230 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: Qu She was walking I like literally was walking out 231 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: of this jewelry showroom and literally walked into like Kate 232 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: and all the paparazzi. And then I saw her at 233 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: Hotel cost She was very drunk, like vibing like queen 234 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: Queen legend. 235 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: I saw her at Fouquettes and try Back as she 236 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: like walked in, and I wanted to say something because 237 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: I wanted to be like, you're the inspiration behind everything 238 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: I do, every second of every day and everywhere I go, 239 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: and you're my ultimate girl, and I just wanted to 240 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: be like, you don't understand, like you are my life. 241 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: But I was of course not like she had her 242 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: hair like. 243 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Slipped back in the bun, and she just looked so 244 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: cool and she was just like walking with her little power, 245 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, I was hope should go 246 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: outside and smoke a cigarettes. 247 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: I want to smoke a cigaret with you. 248 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, one day when one day cam usc will 249 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 3: be sitting across from me and we'll be speaking. 250 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, one day you'll be interviewing a cigarette. 251 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: This is the last like mostly style question. But where 252 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: do you pull inspiration from for your looks? 253 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: I pull inspiration from so many questions, And this is 254 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: actually a question I get, like every day I pull inspiration. 255 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: I can tell you I'm very inspired by going back 256 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: to Little Soko. I'm very inspired by my younger self 257 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: and past versions of myself too, like even like I'll 258 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: look at past outfits I wear and I'm like, oh, 259 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: that was really cool, like like you got to take 260 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: inspo from yourself. I think sometimes I get so much 261 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: inspo from people watching in like the cities that I love, 262 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Like I prefer to get like I don't really get 263 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: inspired from the internet, Like I'm not like a big 264 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: Pinterest girl. Like obviously I love following all like the 265 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, fabulous New York style girlies, but I try 266 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: not to get too much inspo from the internet because 267 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: once again, it's just like the coffee paste, Like I 268 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: just never want to be doing that. But I get 269 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: so much inspo from people watching. I've always been obsessed 270 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: with people watching, especially in New York, like just at 271 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: the coffee shop, Like I'll sit on the bench and 272 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: just like watch people and I get inspired by like 273 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: super random things, like the way like a shoe and 274 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: salt combo that someone's wearing, or like a specific bag 275 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: they're wearing. So I love the people watching in New 276 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: York and Paris. I know we'll talk about that obviously. Vintage. 277 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 3: Vintage is a huge source of inspiration for me. I 278 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: mean I would say, like you're the best, seventy percent 279 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: seventy to eighty percent of my wardrobe is vintage. I 280 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: there there is no deeper flow state for me than 281 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: being in a vintage store and like sifting through items 282 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 3: like that, it gives me life in a way I 283 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: can't even explain, Like it's my It's my biggest source 284 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: of inspiration. 285 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: I love going into. 286 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: Vintage stores and just seeing items from the past and 287 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: just like I just love going into these stores and 288 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 3: not knowing what you're gonna find and then just like 289 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: treasures like jumping out at you. 290 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: Like it gives me a high. 291 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, I get a lot of inspiration from in 292 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: person shopping, not even just vintage stores, but like I 293 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: love going to the fancy stores, like the designer stores 294 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: and just looking like I get so like I started 295 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: this series this year on my Instagram, which people love. 296 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: It's like not purchased but never forgotten, and it's just 297 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: like a mix of it's like a photo dump of 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: all these random items that I've seen out in the wild, 299 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: and it's just so fun. Like that's what inspires me, 300 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: and I encourage people if you're trying to like kind 301 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: of tap into your personal style, like take a picture 302 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: or like even on the real reel, Like I'll just 303 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: scroll through the real real like like whatever in your gut, 304 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: you like like capture all of these things that you 305 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: like and put them together and then you kind of 306 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: start to see your style unfold. 307 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: So that's a big source of inspiration for me. 308 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: It's just like what I see out in the world, 309 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: whether it's in a store. I get a lot of 310 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: inspiration from traveling to new places and I love seeing 311 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: what people are wearing in like different cities, and obviously 312 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: runway shows too, Like always love to see what's on 313 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: the runways. I've been very inspired by like what's going on, 314 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: and also obviously old runway shows too. 315 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: I feel like those are my main I'm the same 316 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: way with shopping. 317 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: I live to look like people are always like you're 318 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: shopping online all day, You're always shopping. 319 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm not shopping. 320 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm getting inspiration looking at the way they're styling pieces. 321 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the way I could style things in 322 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: my closet. I'm looking at what is new at ysel. 323 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: I know I'm not buying anything, and I can't buy anything, 324 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: but I'm just looking because i want to see how 325 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: they're doing things, what they're doing when, what's coming back, 326 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: what's what's in, what's not that kind of thing. Just 327 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: like I'm literally like, I'm just looking. I'm gaining inspiration 328 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: all day. I want to see the new arrivals on 329 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: every single website, just because I want to know what's 330 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: out there and I want to know what's going on. 331 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it has nothing to do with actually buying it. 332 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just like, Oh, that's how I could style that, 333 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: That's what I could do with that. Like, oh, I 334 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: have a pair of shoes that look just like those 335 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: loafers that I have completely forgotten about. 336 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna dig those. 337 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: Out of my closet and make those happen exactly So 338 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm the exact same way I do think shopping. It 339 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: has nothing to do with buying anything, It has nothing 340 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: to do with spending money. It just inspires you to 341 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: do something yeah you already. 342 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah no, I My favorite thing is a department store 343 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: in France, like a French department store, go from top 344 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: to bottom, like when I need inspiration. 345 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: That is the best activity. Every time I leave Paris, 346 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I have completely different style every time I come back 347 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I know nothing. 348 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: I gotta throw all this crap away. These girls or 349 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm just like what did I think with style? They 350 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: inspire me so much. Going to how you became like 351 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: a full time influencer TikToker, I originally started following you 352 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: on TikTok. 353 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: That's how I discovered you. 354 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: How did you turn TikTok into a career? 355 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so crazy. I have been posting. It's so funny 356 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: when that like twenty sixteen. I love that that like 357 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen trend came back this year because I was like, oh, 358 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: what was I up to in twenty sixteen. 359 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is like the birth of style 360 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: with Soco. This is the time, this is. 361 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: The birth of my whole kind of thing. But I 362 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: started posting on Instagram. I started my style page style 363 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: with Soco when I was a senior in high school, 364 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: which was like ten years ago. At this point, I'm twenty. 365 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Seventeen or in high school in twenty sixteen. 366 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: I was. 367 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: I graduated high school in twenty sixteen. Oh my god, 368 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: I was graduating. 369 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: College and started college. But yeah, when I was a 370 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: senior in high school, after I'd gotten into college, I 371 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: had I've always, like I said, like style, it's just 372 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 3: always been my thing. But I didn't realize I think 373 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: when I was younger that like fashion could be a career, 374 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: and I was like very invested in like school. When 375 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: I was like, I was like straight a student, like thoughts, 376 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: careers were very different back. 377 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: It was very different. 378 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 3: I just was like, oh, and then I you know, 379 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: I actually started my page when I was in high 380 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: school because also, you know, Seattle, there's not much style there. 381 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: At my high school, everyone was wearing Lula lemon leggings 382 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: and ugs, and I would show up in these outfits 383 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: and sweatsuits yeah north face, yeah north face. So I 384 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: would show up in these outfits and I was like, 385 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to just start like documenting 386 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: them for myself. So I started my page in high 387 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: school just for fun, and me and my mom too 388 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 3: were always kind of like the style people in Seattle 389 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: like all of my friends would go to you know, 390 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: love to go shopping with us, and we were always 391 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: doing high low, Like my mom was taking me into vintage 392 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: stores in twenty sixteen and TJ Max and Target. We 393 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: were finding cool shit it. But so I started, you know, 394 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 3: on Instagram, but obviously I had like fifty followers. And 395 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: then I went to college at Tulane. And when I 396 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 3: got to Tulane, I was kind of like, okay. It 397 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 3: really helped me come out of my shell too, and 398 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: I was like, this is what I want to do 399 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: for a living. I want to work in fashion. So 400 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: I got fashion internships like every summer. And at the 401 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: same time, I kept up with the Instagram page like 402 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: I you know, I kept making it a part of 403 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: my brand. I would you know, post random outfits whatever, 404 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 3: not making any money, and it was kind of before 405 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: the age of like it making It was like the 406 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 3: oh no, I wasn't making I was not any money, 407 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: was making money. It wasn't the og bloggers. But yeah, 408 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: I had like a blog. I just like I don't know, 409 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 3: I just never gave up on it was my thing. 410 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 3: And in college, I like wrote for a mac. I 411 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 3: just like did all of these things, and then I 412 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: ended up fast forward. 413 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of fashion internships. 414 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: I ended up starting my career at Bloomingdale's, going through 415 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: the buying program, which was amazing. I'm so happy that 416 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: I worked a corporate job because I think it was 417 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: such valuable experience. But when I moved to New York 418 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, which was like a weird time, like 419 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: summer of twenty twenty, so the city was kind of 420 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: like half closed, but it was twenty twenty was the 421 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: time when like TikTok became a thing. And at first 422 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: TikTok was just like Charlie Demilio and like the dances 423 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: and all of that. But then right when I moved 424 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: to New York, it started to become more niche of 425 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: like fashion, food, lifestyle. So I just started posting. And 426 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: it's so funny because I remember I was in college. 427 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: The world was about to shut down, and like TikTok 428 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 3: was just starting, and I told my dad, I was like, 429 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go viral on TikTok, like I'm gonna do it, 430 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: Like that's what I'm gonna do. But yeah, so I 431 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: just I started posting about my journey moving to New 432 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: York on TikTok. I had one video like go viral 433 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: that when I first moved to New York and I 434 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: just kind of like never gave up on it. I 435 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: kept going with it, and at that time in twenty twenty, 436 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 3: it's kind of when all of the New York City 437 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: TikTokers were coming up. So I kind of got And 438 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: then there were months and months of just posting like elf, 439 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: I talked a lot about fashion, career stuff and whatever. 440 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: I just never stopped. But still at this when I started, 441 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: I was like, I never I never thought I would 442 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 3: do it as a full time job. I always wanted 443 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: to stay in corporate fashion. But it then the city 444 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: opened up. I started going to all these events. You know, 445 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 3: I was working at Bloomingdale's and then every night I 446 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: was going out, I was meeting a million people. I 447 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 3: said yes to everything. 448 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: You're another one of those girls that I know that 449 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: just like I just out there, I see you. 450 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah there, I'm out there. 451 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: I've been out there yeah for years, but like especially 452 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: at that time, like I was just like this is 453 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: so cool, this is so fun. Like I moved to 454 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: New York, I'm getting invited to these events. And at 455 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: the time they were random ass events, but like I 456 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 3: thought they were cool, you know. So I was just 457 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: doing it, doing it, doing it. And then I was 458 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: in a really cool role at Bloomingdale's. I was doing 459 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: their pop ups and I loved it, but it was 460 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: the kind of job there wasn't like much of a 461 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: next step. I wasn't sure if I wanted to be 462 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: in like such a corporate environment anymore, because from the 463 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: social media side, I've always been really inspired by like 464 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: female entrepreneurs and just people doing their own things. I've 465 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: always wanted to have my own thing since I was 466 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: very young, Like I always wanted to have my own 467 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: brand or something. So it got to the point where 468 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: I was looking for new jobs. I was putting a 469 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: little bit more into social media, and I finally started 470 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: to take brand deals and I was like, oh, you 471 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: can make a lot of money just from like posting this, 472 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: and I saved up a bunch of money. I wasn't 473 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, I've been in a situation too. I think 474 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: it's very interesting in this content world, and I feel 475 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: like we've talked about this, like a lot of girls 476 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: just like you know, in this world, like come from 477 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: a lot of money and just kind of were able 478 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: to start it. But I've been supporting myself, you know, 479 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: I pay my own rent, so I kind of had to, like, 480 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 3: you know, I had all this money saved up from 481 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: these brand deals that I just didn't touch. And then, 482 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 3: you know, me and my dad were talking, and my 483 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: dad has always been like a constant source of He's 484 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: so smart financially and he's always in curt like he's 485 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: always taught me the importance of working and knowing about 486 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: your finances and just you know, being very firm and 487 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: honest with me, like here's the deal. If you want 488 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 3: to live in New York and you want to pay 489 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 3: your rent, this is the kind of job you have 490 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: to have. You got to make this money to whatever. 491 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: So that was always like suit, that was you know him, honestly, 492 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: my dad. I couldn't have been doing this without his guidance. 493 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: But my dad was actually the one who was like, 494 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: if you want to try this, like you have a 495 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: few months rent saved up, like why not? And kind 496 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: of everyone in my life is like, you've been doing 497 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: this since you were in high school, Like just. 498 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: Go for it. 499 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: And so I ended up quitting Bloomingdale's and I remember 500 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: when you quit, and I like, looking back, I was like, 501 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: like I did not have a lot of like I 502 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: think I had like fifteen k followers on it, Like 503 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I kind of quit blindly, but I 504 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: was like, worse that can happen. I'll go back to 505 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: working in corporate. And I think I quit at a 506 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 3: good time. I feel like now everyone's quitting and doing 507 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: it and it's become even more oversaturated. But I quit, 508 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: and I do I think too many people are quitting 509 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: their dolls. Yeah, I quit, and I just kind of 510 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: dove into it. I did not know what the fuck 511 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: I was doing, but I just took the leap. I 512 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: took a chance on myself. I got like a manager 513 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: and started. I don't know the first I feel like 514 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: the first honestly. Up until now, it's just like was 515 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: a clusterfuck of like this project that like just throwing 516 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: myself at anything just to be like, okay, can I 517 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: make enough money you know to do this? And then 518 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: it's like by now, now I've been doing it for 519 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: like over two years and it's like the best job 520 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: ever and I feel so lucky and you know, I've 521 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 3: been able to make an amazing career out of it. 522 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: I think, you know, first of all, there's a lot 523 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: of money in this industry and I'm not even a 524 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: huge creator, and I making much more than I did 525 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: at Blooming Deals, which is insane. You know, I could 526 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 3: have never pictured that. Like, I really feel so lucky 527 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: day to be doing this and to be able to 528 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: support myself. It's so rewarding to kind of have your 529 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: own business and do it. But you know, I think 530 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: it's a mix of a lot of things. You know, 531 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: it's having the creative, having the cool style, like having 532 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 3: the the it girl touched, but then it's also like 533 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: making the money, working hard, figuring out how to save it. 534 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: It's also like a different form of income where you're 535 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 3: not getting you know, like a salary every week every year. 536 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: Is there something that surprised you about making your own 537 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: money or something that you learned that you wish you 538 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 2: would have known. 539 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: I can list a thousand things. 540 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: Oh my god, a million things, a million things. I yeah, 541 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: I I'm trying to think it is. 542 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: It is big girl shit. It is big girl shit. Yeah, 543 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: it's a lot. 544 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: Like I did not realize how much we'd have to 545 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: pay in tax, Like the taxes are insane in this industry. 546 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: Give an accountant. I'm assuming, Yes, I didn't even know. 547 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know I needed to know. 548 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think the same financial guy, my dad. 549 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: I'm extremely lucky for because he But another nice thing 550 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: is like I didn't realize that we could write off 551 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: half of our life as a business expense, which is 552 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: so nice. But yeah, and I honestly just like did 553 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 3: not realize. You know, It's it's just like crazy how 554 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 3: much money you can make from like an Instagram post. 555 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Like it's just say, how much you can make from 556 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: an Instagram post. 557 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: And I also think it's crazy how unbelievably expensive New 558 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: York City. Oh it's amount of just wasted money. Is 559 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: it's so expensive, criminal, It's so expensive. 560 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: And I feel like, also, I've always been, you know, 561 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: I've always supported myself, and I've always been a big spender, 562 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: which is an issue. Like I love to spend, like 563 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: I like, like I feel like every time I breathe, 564 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: I spend one hundred dollars. And but the thing is like, 565 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: because it's my own money, I'm like, you know, I 566 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: make my own money, so I spend it how I 567 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 3: like that song per yeah, so that has also been 568 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 3: hard for me of like, Okay, how do I balance 569 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 3: like all of these expenses. 570 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: I want to heavily encourage financial literacy. Yeah, and because 571 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: it's like not like I don't have. 572 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: Good financial guidance. I don't. I'm not. 573 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: Every woman I talk to they're like, oh, my husband 574 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: does this, my husband does that. My husband, And I'm like, well, 575 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: I don't have a husband and I don't have someone 576 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 2: that can get me financially that like is doing things 577 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: in a way that I would want to do them. 578 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: And it is just absolutely crazy. 579 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: And I feel like we just, yeah, why does every 580 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: man know all of this and we don't. 581 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: It's I know, I know there should have been Yeah, it. 582 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: Should it should have to learn about it at least knowledge. 583 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Everyone should be required to. 584 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: Take some kind of financial literacy before they because everybody 585 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: wants to be an entrepreneur and everybody wants to do it, 586 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: and everyone wants to own. 587 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Theirs, everybody wants to be like a girl boss. But 588 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: you kind of have to have that knowledge to you 589 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: need it. Yeah, you literally need or you're going to 590 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: find yourself in huge trouble. 591 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: So I feel like that's the thing about it is 592 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 2: that even when people say, like that girl is she's 593 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: just a dumb influencer. 594 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: She's just something weel. She's managing millions of dollars, which 595 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: isn't easy. Like she's running a business. 596 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: There's so many girls that they're like, she doesn't know 597 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: anything about this, she doesn't know how to run a business. 598 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: And Michael, She's right, no, yes, he's bringing in revenue 599 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: millions of dollars every year and she's managing all of that. 600 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: And she's managing your own money. 601 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's a level of intelligence right there that, oh, yeah, 602 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: people don't have. So I feel like I really you 603 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: and all the New York girlies especially, I'm like, I 604 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: really respect how much you're able to figure out managing 605 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 2: your own money and not having a husband that can 606 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: do it for you. 607 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Nobody told me I needed an account. I had no idea. Yeah, 608 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: he told me how the business expense thing worked. Like 609 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I had no idea how this works. 610 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: I really didn't know, and I just had to slowly 611 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: learn and I'm still learning. 612 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just encourage women before they quit their jobs, 613 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: one hundred percent, before they decide they want to start 614 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: their own thing, just figure out what it's going to entail, 615 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: because yeah, making a lot of money requires a lot. 616 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: Of responsibility, one hundred percent, a hundred person. 617 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: A glamorous Yes, is there anything that you wish you 618 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: knew business wise before you started? That to any woman 619 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: starting her own brand, you would say she needs to 620 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: know doesn't have to be a financial. 621 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: I think, honestly, I think, I think when it comes 622 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: to the influencer world, I think even deeper than any 623 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: of the whatever the financial, the business, I think you 624 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 3: have to be very mentally tough to be in this job. 625 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: I think with. 626 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: Being an influencer and basically like like I am my job, 627 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: Like my whole job is based on me, Like you know, 628 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: it's so much deeper than this, but there is an 629 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: extent where it's like our job is like how we 630 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 3: look and how we dress, and like staying relevant and 631 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: staying cool and like that takes a lot on your 632 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: mental health. And I think I think, I mean, I'm 633 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: I've always been very confident and in myself, but I 634 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: think being in this industry can like fuck with your 635 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: head sometimes. So I think my advice to someone if 636 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: you specifically, if you want to be in the content world, 637 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 3: but I think in any in creative just being in 638 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: the creative industries as well, I think you have to 639 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: be very mentally tough. And it's also highs and lows 640 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 3: all the time. And I have friends, like friends come 641 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: to me all the time like, oh, my content's not 642 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 3: performing like whatever, and I'm I always try and I'm like, 643 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: that's just the name, the name of the game we're 644 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: posting every day. Not everything's going to hit. And I 645 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: think you also have to be, you know, mentally prepared 646 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: for that too. That it's very high and low the 647 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 3: business of it, you know, and you go to these 648 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: exciting events and then it's over and then you're like 649 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: it's just. 650 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: And then someone more exciting events are the comparison. I 651 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: also think the comparison. 652 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 3: Is a big thing, like you really have to like, like, 653 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: it's taken me a long time. I feel like now 654 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: I'm in a place where i'm just like very very 655 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: like good and very like just happy with where I'm 656 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: at and just feel so much gratitude for it and 657 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: I love. 658 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: It so much. 659 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: But it's taken a lot to get here because it's 660 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: like it's it's not it's definitely not for the week. 661 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: I am deeply in a place of It also took 662 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: me a very long time, especially because I'm not a 663 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: huge creator and my platform has always been based off 664 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: other people, which I which I love in so many ways. 665 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: And I did it like that on purpose and I 666 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: wanted it like that, but I also was like, I'm 667 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: irrelevant to it. And on days that was amazing and 668 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 2: on days it wasn't. But right now I'm like, I 669 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: just want I. 670 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Only want what wants me exactly. 671 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 2: You know what, if not one person wants me at 672 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: their event, I don't. 673 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to be a single one if yeah, 674 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: you're not missing anything ever. 675 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: And a show, if I'm not wanted there, I don't 676 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: want to be there. Like I just like want to 677 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: be where people want me. And it's like, exactly, if 678 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: an opportunity doesn't want me, but it wants six of 679 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: my friends who we hang out with all the time, 680 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: but they are all wanted, I'm not on my I 681 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: just don't want to be where I'm not wanted. That's 682 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: like very and a brand event, you are literally never 683 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: missing anything, never missing any I've never had anything incredible. 684 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, I'm so grateful to be no, no, no, 685 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: totally no the best. 686 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: Actually my favorite, my favorite brand event was last year 687 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: during Kashimonika is Why a Cell beauty party and Kesha performed. 688 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't there. I'll give you the there's one this year. 689 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: I'll give you the thanks girl. 690 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: I'll give you the but Kesha performed, and by the way, 691 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: I actually like wasn't like was I. 692 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: I do think the one resort there's performance. 693 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: There was, but Kesha performed, and I'm like, I love Kesha, 694 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: like I used to love Kesha when I was younger, 695 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: and she took my martini glass like she was singing, 696 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: and she like grabbed it and she drank my dirty 697 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 3: martini and that was iconic. I always there, there are 698 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: I will say those some events like yeah, you're never 699 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: missing anything. 700 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: But I genuinely do think there's a performance. Also, like 701 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: a lot of. 702 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 3: These things, like I don't take for granted, Like it's 703 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: still like some of them are so cool, Like I 704 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: always feel so grateful to be in these rooms, even 705 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: if it's not the most fun thing. I still like 706 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 3: I think also like what I'm doing right now is 707 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: literally what younger me like I feel literally would die 708 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: like I look at my life every day and like 709 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 3: I can't believe it because I'm like it's everything I 710 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: manifested and more so I just feel, yeah, that's how 711 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: I'm feeling right now. I'm just like I'm lucky to 712 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 3: be here, Like you can always go up, but like 713 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm here. 714 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: I did it one hundred percent, and I I yeah it. 715 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: I'm always grateful to be there, and I've just learned 716 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: to like appreciate the things where I'm wanted and. 717 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: Be like, yeah, exactly, wonder that I'm wanted here, thank 718 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: you so. 719 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: Much for having me and the things that don't just 720 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: be like whatever I saved sixty dollars on the Uber forget, 721 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Okay, I want to talk to you a 722 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: little bit about moving to New York and then a 723 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: little bit about moving to Paris, because I think girls leaving. 724 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: I am the biggest advocate for women getting out there, 725 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: not staying in your hometown, moving, traveling, living, god, doing 726 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: the thing and doing it by yourself. I have never 727 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: had the balls to move to Europe, and I've always 728 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: wanted to and have always wanted to live in Paris, 729 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 2: and then you did it, and I was like, I'm 730 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: feeling so inspired by so called every girl in New 731 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: York was talking about how you weren't here. 732 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: By the way, it was like a discussion. I felt missed. 733 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: You were very missed, I was like. 734 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: And then I got back and it's like, yeah, no, 735 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: I'm very lucky. I have such a great community in 736 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: New York. Moving to New York was like my dream 737 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: since I was five years old, and I grew up 738 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 3: spending a lot. Like I mentioned, I spent my summers 739 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: here with my mom and all of her people. I 740 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: have so many family and family friends here, and I'm 741 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 3: so grateful to my mom for bringing me every summer 742 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: because she always made New York like a big part 743 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: of my life, and it it felt as much home 744 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: as Seattle did. I felt even more connected to New 745 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: York than Seattle. Honestly, I feel so much more connected 746 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: to New York than I feel so much more connected 747 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: to it. And it was just like when I moved here, 748 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: everyone in my life was like Sophie's coming home, Like 749 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: it was just like New York is. It was in 750 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: my blood from the start, and moving to New York 751 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: was I always knew I was going to do it, 752 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: but I never knew it would be this amazing. And 753 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: I think when I got here, I just like blossomed 754 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 3: because it's like I was kind of waiting my whole 755 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: life for this moment and I just, you know, we 756 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: talked about it, like I said yes. Like when I 757 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: first moved here, I said yes to everything. Like I 758 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: don't leave the house without running into at least like 759 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 3: ten people I know, and. 760 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: It brings me so much joy. 761 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: Like I'm walking down Prince Street and I'll like run 762 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: into a random person from this walk of life, this 763 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: walk of life, and then like I'll have like a fan. 764 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: Like it's just like I love the community of New 765 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 3: York because it's such a big city, but it's become 766 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: small to me, and I think that's like a product 767 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: of like me putting myself out there. I think with 768 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: New York, what you put in, you get out. And 769 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: then Paris was I mean, what. 770 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 2: Pushed you to go to like really bite the bullet 771 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: and be like Paris was. 772 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: Just it's actually so crazy. 773 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: I found like a journal from when I was studying 774 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: abroad in college, and I wrote for my Paris trip, 775 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'd love to live here one day, but 776 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: I in my adult life, like I just started going 777 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: to Paris a lot. I went actually with Jess, my 778 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 3: best friend Jess. We did like a girl's trip like 779 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: when we first met. We went the two of us, 780 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 3: and then I went for my twenty fifth birthday. We 781 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: went back for Jess's baucherette, and then that summer I 782 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 3: decided to when Jess was planning for boucherette, I decided 783 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 3: to book a one way flight. Everyone was just going 784 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: to Paris, and I was like, you know what, I 785 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 3: want to like manifest like some trips for myself. I'm 786 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: just going to book the one way flight. And then 787 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: I ended up going to Paris going on a couple 788 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 3: other trips, and then while I was still in Europe, 789 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: I was like while I was on that trip, I 790 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: was like, I need some time alone here. So I 791 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 3: went back alone to Paris for a few days and 792 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: I was staying in this like random airbnb, and I 793 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: just remember I was looking out the window and I 794 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: was like, I want this for myself. At like, I 795 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: was like, I really want to spend a summer here. 796 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 3: It was never like and I'll get into it later. 797 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like a place that I'm 798 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: gonna I don't think I'm going to give ever, like 799 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: fully move out of New York to go to Paris 800 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 3: full time, but who knows. But I just had this feeling. 801 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: I was like, I need to do it. Was just 802 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 3: like a gut feeling. I really think also in your twenties, 803 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: so I don't like listen to those gut feelings. They 804 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 3: tell you everything about what you need to do in 805 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: your life. 806 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: But I was just like, I'd really love to do this. 807 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: And then I got back from that summer, I like 808 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 3: signed up for French classes, which, by the way, I 809 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 3: epically feel I don't really speak French. 810 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone asks either like how's French. I'm like, no, 811 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: it didn't very hard. It's so hard, and I honestly 812 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: didn't have the time to commit to it one day. 813 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 814 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 3: I just had that gut feeling. And then I was 815 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: talking to my I was once again the logistics of 816 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: it all. I was talking to my parents. I'm like, 817 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 3: I really want to do this, and then it just 818 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 3: kind of worked out. My least was ending my roommate 819 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 3: at the time, Lauren, she wanted to move out of 820 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: the apartment and our least was ending in May I 821 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: had posted about moving to Paris a couple times, and 822 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: then an apartment in Paris, the sickest apartment fell into 823 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 3: my lap like a follower of mine, like DM me 824 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 3: and was like, hey, I saw your maybe moving to Paris. 825 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: Do you have a place yet? 826 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 3: I stayed in the best apartment, so this apartment fell 827 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 3: into my lap. All of the logistics just kind of 828 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 3: started working out. I think, like my whole life is 829 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 3: a mixture of like manifestation and dreams, and then like 830 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 3: what are the pieces I need to get there? 831 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 832 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 3: It was just a gut feeling. I felt the universe 833 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: calling me to it, and I just made it happen 834 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: and it was the best. 835 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the best thing. 836 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 3: I get like emotional thinking about it because it was 837 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: just like magical, like the summer. It was like the 838 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 3: most magical experience. And I mean I was just having 839 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: the time of my life, which is amazing. And that's 840 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: another great thing about content is being able to do 841 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: something like that. And I was definitely working a lot less, 842 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 3: but I had prepared for that too. I had prepared 843 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: going in knowing I wasn't going to get as much 844 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: brand deals like I had saved up a bunch of 845 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: money so that like I could do this, and the 846 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 3: apartment thing worked out because I put all my stuff 847 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 3: in storage. 848 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying for New York rent. I was just 849 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: paying for Paris rent, which is cheaper. 850 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: But anyways, it also just showed me. I think the 851 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 3: experience itself was amazing. I learned so much about myself. 852 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 3: I think doing a big adventure like that by yourself 853 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 3: just pushes you in so many ways outside of your 854 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: comfort zone. I had so many like experiences that like 855 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't think I would I always have in like 856 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 3: my normal New York life when you're just like in 857 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: the groove of things with the same people, you know, Like, 858 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: I met so many people and like just it was 859 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 3: just like amazing and it really pushes you. I feel 860 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: like I got to know myself so much. And I 861 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: also love the lifestyle there. It's a bit simpler of 862 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: a life, I will say the New York. I mean, 863 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: Paris is still like a big, energetic city, but especially 864 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: in the summer, it's just like, I don't know, people 865 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: just like live there a little bit more. 866 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you learned things about yourself while 867 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: you were there? Did it change the way you saw yourself? 868 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think I just like, I think I 869 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: learned this whole. I think I learned first of all, 870 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: that I just like am such a life lover, like 871 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 3: I love to live life. And I think I've always 872 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 3: been like such a career driven like goals, goals, goals, 873 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: but being in Paris and just like it was one 874 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 3: of the only experiences that I went into with no expectations, 875 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 3: Like everyone's like. 876 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Like is it for work? 877 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: Is it for this? 878 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 3: And I was just like, I don't know, I'm just 879 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 3: doing it for my own enjoyment. And I think, like 880 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 3: I had no expectations from it, and it was I 881 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 3: just learned so much that like that is the way 882 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 3: that life should be lived, is like just to enjoy 883 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: it every day. And I think I really learned that, 884 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: like I just like enjoy the little things so much, 885 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: and I learned that I just like, I think I'm 886 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 3: just so independent, Like I learned. I'm like I cause 887 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 3: everyone's like I could not do that, Like how the 888 00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: fuck were you? 889 00:39:59,080 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: Like making friends? 890 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 3: I've alway wanted to do it, but yeah, you can't, 891 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: scared you can and yeah, and when I first got there, 892 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: I was like, why am I here, Like I don't 893 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 3: know anyone, what am I going to do all summer? 894 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 3: But every day I just woke up had something to 895 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 3: look forward to, and then it just I don't know, 896 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: it just and I think more than anything, that experience 897 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 3: showed me, like actually picking up and doing it and 898 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: making it happen for myself really showed me that, like 899 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 3: you can do anything you want, like you can make 900 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 3: all of your dreams come true, Like you can make 901 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: these things happen for yourself. And it just showed me that, like, okay, 902 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 3: like the sky's the limit. Like I moved to Paris 903 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 3: for a three month, like and it's cool now because 904 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: Paris has become such a big part of my life 905 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: and it's like I have like a little community in Paris, 906 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: and it's just like I feel like I was just 907 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 3: there with some friends actually on a birthday trip, and 908 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh my gosh, like you you go into 909 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: these stores you know everyone. I'm like, yeah, like I 910 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 3: lived here. Like the thing about me too, is like 911 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: when I move somewhere, like like I'm immersing myself in 912 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 3: the community. And I shouldn't say that as somebody who 913 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: did not fully learn to speak French. But I'm immersing, 914 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 3: I you know, I'm I'm I'm immersing myself in the 915 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 3: ways that I can. And I also I am such 916 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 3: a people person. I live to connect with people. So yeah, 917 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 3: it just yeah, it really showed me. I'm like, wow, 918 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: I can really make anything happen herself. And now like 919 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: Paris is such a big part of my brand as 920 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 3: like a creator too, which is so cool because I'm like, oh, 921 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 3: going to Paris is good for my job because now 922 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 3: my community like likes to see me in Paris. It's 923 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 3: like a part of my whole like story. So yeah, 924 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 3: it was a really life changing experience. Do you feel 925 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: like your style changed when you were there? 926 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: My style changes, I do because I'm like, I'm not 927 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: cool at all. I've never been cool. I've never seen cool. 928 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: Cool doesn't know me. 929 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 2: I've never been near cool. When I see those girls. 930 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm oh yeah. I mean 931 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: the people. 932 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 3: I always I think New York has the best, Like 933 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: like people in New York like love fashion, Like it's 934 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: like people just like appreciate like fun, crazy personal style. 935 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 3: But in Paris, I'm just like, oh, it's so fucking chic, 936 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: Like these people they're just like so it's so effortless there, 937 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 3: And I think that really inspired me because I think 938 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: in New York, especially in this influencer community, when we're 939 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 3: getting dressed every day and you always feel like you 940 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: have to like throw out something insane. When I was 941 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: in Paris, I was so inspired by like this effortlessness 942 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 3: chic of like the five minute like ever, I don't 943 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 3: even like I wasn't even thinking about getting dressed. I 944 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 3: just like threw on what felt comfortable, I know, like 945 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 3: the baggiest, craziest like and I just like wear like 946 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: I was just like running around in like a slip 947 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: dress in ballet flats, like no bra like it just 948 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: like I don't know. It definitely influenced my style and 949 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: I think I've brought that coming back here where I'm like, 950 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 3: I don't it's actually like I don't need to try 951 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 3: so hard all the time. Like it's actually cooler to 952 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 3: just like lean into what you like are naturally drawn to. 953 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: Like and yeah, when I was washing my hair when 954 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: I'm there and I living in Paris, and like, also 955 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 3: the women are so natural, which like natural makeup, natural 956 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 3: like it's just so I don't know, I was so 957 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 3: And also, like the shopping in Paris is out of control. 958 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: I'm just so inspired by like the shopping, like I 959 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: go crazy. 960 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: Everything they really are to me like the. 961 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 2: Ultimate women, Like I'm just like, god of it together. Yeah, God, 962 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 2: they're like they're they just like everything they do is smart. 963 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: They're capable. They're yeah, and they're ambitious. 964 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: But they don't they're not overt about it, and they're 965 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 2: collected and they're calm and they get their point across 966 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: in such a chic way. And then they're dress chic 967 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 2: and they don't need. 968 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 3: To put on a ton of I'm just like you 969 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 3: guys totally, and I feel like when I'm there, getting. 970 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: Dressed is so much easier for me. 971 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 3: I don't know why, Like even I'm complete, I just like, yeah, 972 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: I feel like my whole system is like so inspired 973 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 3: when I'm in Paris that it. 974 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: Just there's like a confidence amongst the women that rubs 975 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: off on you. And I feel like I don't care 976 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 2: what I'm wearing, so I'm like, it doesn't matter. 977 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: I look good. Everyone looks good. We're cool. Yeah, that's 978 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: what we're matter. I just want to be in Paris 979 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: on the bike, living my best life every day. 980 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: I love. Is there anything you would say to someone 981 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: like myself that really wants to do it but is 982 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: feels like it's terrifying, Like is there something you would 983 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: say to a girl like me? 984 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I would say, And my mom said this to 985 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 3: me when I was younger, and it always stuck out 986 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 3: to me. Is that life begins outside of your comfort 987 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,879 Speaker 3: zone and the scariest things end up being the best 988 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: things in your life. You know, like think about like 989 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 3: you starting this show and ended up being the best, 990 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 3: probably one of the best things you've ever done. 991 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: And I think I've ever done for myself without Yeah, 992 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: And I think, like. 993 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 3: It just like taking risks like that so scary, but 994 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 3: the scariest things you just always end up being the best. 995 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: And even if it. 996 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: Doesn't work out exactly how you wanted to or you know, 997 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: even if it you even if you got to Paris 998 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 3: and you got we're there for a week and you 999 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 3: hated it and you didn't like the experience of being 1000 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 3: in a new country by yourself, like you never know 1001 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 3: until you don't, if you don't try. And I think 1002 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 3: also just like if it's I think I just I 1003 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: really encourage women too, Like, if there's something you want 1004 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 3: to do, go out and do it. 1005 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: Like I always say, like fight for it. 1006 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter but your financial position or what access 1007 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 2: you have, maybe Paris isn't in your reach. But like, 1008 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: if that's something you want, do something to fight for it, 1009 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: Like fight for what, fight for it always, because no 1010 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: one's gonna come fight for it for you. No one's 1011 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: going to start a fund for you, gonna drag you 1012 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: out there. 1013 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: Just fight for it. 1014 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 2: And even if you only move the needle a little bit, 1015 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 2: you have done something for yourself and you're empowering yourself 1016 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: to be like I have some level of control in 1017 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 2: my life, and I just say, like, whatever it is 1018 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 2: you want to do, I'm such a big proponent of 1019 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: this is like, fight for it. 1020 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care what it is. I don't if 1021 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: it's a shirt that you want. 1022 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 2: That you can exactly, an exact restaurant you want to 1023 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 2: go to that you can't get a reservation to, or 1024 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: a city you want to move to, like fight fight 1025 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 2: for that. There's a job you want that you'd fight 1026 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 2: for and at least move the needle the teeniest bit 1027 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 2: because at least you can say you put something into it, 1028 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: and at least you can say you did something for yourself, 1029 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 2: and at least you can tell say that you're worth 1030 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 2: it to yourself. 1031 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree, and like trust those gut feelings. 1032 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: Like those gut feelings are guidance for you. And if 1033 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 3: you have a gut feeling that you want to do something, 1034 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: whether it's moved to Paris or whatever it is that 1035 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 3: you want to do, follow it like the unit, Like 1036 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 3: you know yourself better than anyone in this world. 1037 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: And also what I will say too is like. 1038 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 3: Everyone's doing like you got to live life for you, 1039 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 3: Like there's no right way to do life. I've really 1040 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: learned in my twenties. It's like you need to like 1041 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 3: the way that you're going to be happiest is to 1042 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 3: create a life that like is for you and like 1043 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 3: just do the things you want. 1044 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 2: And I've never seen a man ever in my entire life, 1045 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 2: so that he can't do something because of he can't 1046 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: get access to it, he doesn't have the privilege for it, 1047 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: he doesn't have forty doesn't have them. 1048 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: He forty's too afraid to do it. 1049 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 3: One hundred percent, then just be doing things one hundred percent, 1050 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 3: and it's like even some things like one of my 1051 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: best friends, Lauren, Like this is such a random story, 1052 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 3: but we were upstate last weekend and she was like, 1053 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like I really want to have like 1054 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 3: a cabin upstate, Like that's her thing. That's her like 1055 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: moving to Paris. And it's like that's obviously not She's 1056 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 3: not going to like turn around and buy a house tomorrow. 1057 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 3: But like me and my friends this past weekend, we 1058 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 3: were talking about the concept of like marinating on ideas 1059 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: and like even if you can't execute it like right now, 1060 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 3: like hold on to that and like do something every 1061 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 3: day to work towards it, like. 1062 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: Just for a little bit, fight for it a little 1063 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: bit and like see where it goes. Like for me, 1064 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: like I want to open a vintage store one day, 1065 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 1: Oh that's and it's like that's happening. 1066 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 2: I'm we're basically at the grand opening. That's yeah, that's easy. 1067 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not going to happen like tomorrow. But 1068 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 3: it's like if you really want something and go make. 1069 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: It happen, you're doing that. I can't wait. Do you 1070 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: have a name? 1071 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 3: No, it's just it's not something I want to do 1072 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 3: right at this second, because it's I mean, it's going 1073 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 3: to be your mother, literally, You're. 1074 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: Literally literally And I love that my mom has a 1075 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: vintage store too. 1076 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, last question that I've asked you five 1077 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 2: billion times already, but Sophy Cohen, who do you think 1078 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 2: is the ultimate IT girl? 1079 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: And why does she inspire you? Oh so many? 1080 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 3: I feel, like I said this last time, I'm going 1081 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 3: to give too. I think my mom is the ultimate 1082 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 3: IT girl because she is just the most. She's badass, 1083 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 3: but she's the most kind and loving person and I 1084 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 3: think that's what I've taken from her. And I think 1085 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 3: kindness is the most IT girl quality ever. Being a 1086 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: good person and being kind and making people feel seen 1087 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 3: is like the best quality an IT girl can have, 1088 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 3: Like I really really believe. Just yeah, And I'm like, 1089 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 3: my mom has always has been someone who makes people 1090 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 3: feel really good about themselves and I does. And that's 1091 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 3: like what I hope to do with my page. But 1092 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: I think when it comes to style, my style icon 1093 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: is Carrie Bradshaw. It's basic, but like I I have 1094 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 3: so much shit that she has, like she is. I 1095 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 3: just that her sense of style in that show is 1096 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 3: like the most like I feel like I don't really 1097 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 3: I have never I like because I have such a 1098 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 3: dividual style. I don't resonate so much with any certain 1099 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 3: like person, but with her, like everything, it's just I've 1100 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 3: been so inspired by her. ES's just so unapologetic, so unapologetic, 1101 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 3: and the Fendy bag get the Manolo heels, like it's 1102 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 3: just when I'm like going out in New York, I'm like, 1103 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm I feel like Carry Bradshaw and that is everything 1104 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 3: to me. 1105 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: I love that. I always feel like Mollygun from Uptown Girls. 1106 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: That's oh my. I collect everything. 1107 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 2: I collect everything Carry Bradshaw has, but I also collect 1108 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 2: everything that Mollygun had, Like that's I'm always buying anything 1109 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 2: that I can. 1110 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1111 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 2: My number one my moving to Paris is finding them 1112 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 2: the white mosquito dress with the little dolls on it 1113 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 2: that she works, because I've never. 1114 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: Been able to find it ever. Need I need it. 1115 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: And if there's one thing I could take from sus 1116 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 2: it would be the way that she like you turn 1117 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: around and you're like, oh my god, she's talking to 1118 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 2: another person, and then she's done with that conversation. She's like, 1119 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 2: where'd you get those pants and then she's following out 1120 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 2: for them and I'm like, where's she going. She's like, 1121 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 2: oh my god, we're gonna get dinner, and I'm like, 1122 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 2: stop it. 1123 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: Did you really just make five new friends? 1124 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 2: Like I just love that, Like it's it's such a beautiful, 1125 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: endearing fun and like you just like that energy is 1126 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 2: contagious and you want to like, oh yallow it up 1127 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 2: and have more of that, and I love, like what 1128 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 2: a beautiful thing to be. Like totally before is just like, oh, 1129 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: she can make a friend anywhere. She she does make 1130 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 2: people feel good about themselves. She's so engaging and like 1131 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 2: she's just like you just want more of it. Yeah, 1132 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 2: And then like it's rare to meet people that you're like, oh, 1133 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 2: I want to be around you all the time because 1134 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 2: you just like make me feel so special and you 1135 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: make this experience more fun and she's also fun. So ultimately, 1136 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 2: girl totally shout out sus we love you and I 1137 00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 2: love when she told me, I hutzpah, I've never forgotten it. 1138 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,319 Speaker 2: You do have put it put a twinkle in my eyes. 1139 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,759 Speaker 2: She said, you know what, Bailey, Yeah, God, I love you. 1140 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: I love you girl. Okay, Sophie, thank you so much. 1141 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: You want to shout out your socials. 1142 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 3: Yes at Style with Soco on Instagram, TikTok substack. I'm 1143 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 3: loving YouTube a little bit. I'm gonna work on it 1144 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 3: this year. 1145 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 1: But fabulous. Thank you so much and you will be 1146 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: back next week with another girl.