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Speaker 4: Good morning to everyone. We have a girl show for

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Speaker 4: you today. Soccer is out Where.

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Speaker 3: Where is he?

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Speaker 1: Crystal Soccer, my little trip down to Austin record a

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Speaker 1: couple of podcasts with Lex Friedman and with Matt Shane

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Speaker 1: on their podcast. So I'm looking forward to seeing all

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Speaker 1: of those, and he will be back here on Monday.

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Speaker 1: But very glad as always to have you here with us, Emily.

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Speaker 4: Special Blast and when Soccer goes on this honeymoon, everyone

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 1: The Girls Show, yeahke loved, that's right. That is coming

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Speaker 1: very soon. In the meantime, we have very much news

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Speaker 4: Pod morning in America, folks.

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Speaker 5: I saw to Ryan make the fascist and furious jokes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right, and many of those sequels are

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Speaker 1: coming this morning. So some pretty wild picks that we'll

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Speaker 1: James Carville absolutely shocking me and saying that, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: David Brooks has also said something similar. Wild times we're

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Speaker 1: living through here people. At the same time, New York

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Speaker 1: Times facing a lot of scrutiny over taking down a

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Speaker 1: at the what billionaires want out of the Trump administration,

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Speaker 3: Well, hugely interesting conversation.

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Speaker 4: And speaking of interesting conversations, Crystal, we are about to

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump nominated Matt Gates to be Attorney General of

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Speaker 4: the United States yesterday evening.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Crystal was celebrating right away.

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Speaker 5: She was my cup of tea right here.

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Speaker 4: She was like, this is surprisingly refreshing.

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Speaker 1: It's something. It was surprising that part was true at

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Speaker 1: this part. This Axios report talks about how Republicans were

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Speaker 1: Now the uh, I think the spin on that would be,

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Speaker 5: True, true, he is no doubt about it. But he

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Speaker 1: Unrepentant asshole and is probably the most hated figure among

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even among Republicans, first of all, even among Republicans,

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Speaker 1: General definitely the vibe. I have my own like personal

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Speaker 5: There's been a lot.

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Speaker 1: Said, of course, about the potential damaging information possible that's

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Speaker 1: This report could still come out. You only need one

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Speaker 4: And these questions are like actually very much being debated,

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Speaker 5: They're about who he thinks.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's really fascinating that it's likely now

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Speaker 1: to war with China. None of these individuals, Tulsi included.

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Speaker 1: Tulsi has completely shifted her position with regard to Israel.

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Speaker 1: She used to be critical and now she's, you know,

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Speaker 1: completely on board with whatever Israel wants to do. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: they don't think she would be in this particular position.

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Speaker 1: Dare I say, given that, you know, a pack seems

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Speaker 1: to have had a lot of influence, whether overt or covert,

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Speaker 1: They've had a lot of influence in terms of the

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Speaker 1: foreign policy related picks, in particular his.

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Speaker 3: Ambassador to Israel's My Khokapi.

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Speaker 4: So I mean it would be hard for Telsey Gabbert

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Speaker 4: to have her old positions on Israel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and Headseath is equally like as sort of like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Messiania has this very religiously driven view of Israel,

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Speaker 1: and this is quite unprecedented. I mean, obviously our foreign

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Speaker 1: policy has always been like lockstep with Israel, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. But you know, how could be is the

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Speaker 1: type where it's not just the Biden administration sort of

457
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Speaker 1: like agreed with Yov Galant, who was also in my view,

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Speaker 1: like a maniac and said that Palestinians like are our animals,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But he was at least interested in, hey,

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Speaker 1: how do we get our own hostages back? How could

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Speaker 1: be in Hegsath are more in line with like Ben

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Speaker 1: Gaverin's motrich that are like, we need to just and

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Speaker 1: this problem once overall take over the West Bank, like

464
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Speaker 1: this is, you know, our religious fulfillment of religious prophecy.

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Speaker 1: And they're all sort of like weirdly on the same

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Speaker 1: page with that. So it does represent and shift in

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Speaker 1: that regard. We'll move on to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about Rubio, but I also one thing I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about, both with regard to the quote unquote deep

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Speaker 1: State and with regard to the Department of Justice, is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the way he portrays these type of picks

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Speaker 1: is like, I'm going to make sure that justice is

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Speaker 1: done and that it's not weaponized, et cetera. That's not

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Speaker 1: actually what he wants.

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Speaker 5: He wants.

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Speaker 1: He wants it to be weaponized the way he wants

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Speaker 1: it to be weaponised. That's true in the first administration,

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Speaker 1: I think will be even more true now. And you

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Speaker 1: know he's been pretty upfront about that. It's the same

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Speaker 1: thing with things like surveillance, which falls under the Tulsi

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Speaker 1: Gabbard DNI where it's not that he's opposed to mass surveillance,

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Speaker 1: it's not that he's opposed to censorship, it's that he

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Speaker 1: wants it to be applied to his enemies. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: things like surveilling any sort of left movement racial justice,

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Speaker 1: you know, economic justice, certainly, the pro Palestine movement, like

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Speaker 1: any you know, resurgent, like Black Lives Matter movement, anything

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Speaker 1: like that. He would be all totally cool, if not

488
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Speaker 1: affirmatively in support of the type of surveillance that's been

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Speaker 1: weaponized against all kinds of activist groups.

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Speaker 5: Across the board.

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Speaker 1: And we've already seen his position with regard to censorship.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he wants to deport anyone who is pro Palestine,

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Speaker 1: he wants flag burning to be banned. The list goes

494
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Speaker 1: on and on. So it's not like he's actually pro

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Speaker 1: First Amendment. He just wants speech restrictions to be applied

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Speaker 1: in the way that serves him and goes against his

497
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Speaker 1: own political enemies. So I think that's the other thing

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Speaker 1: to keep in mind when we're talking about the powers

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Speaker 1: at DMI.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's some Republicans who are really strong on

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Speaker 4: free speech and consistent, you know, like Thomas Massey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely hopefully tells the Gabbard.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I think it's an open question and

505
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Speaker 4: Rand Paul, but you need one of them, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, Yeah, it's so easy for the

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Speaker 4: others to slip into this is anti semitic speech. Of

508
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Speaker 4: course it must be surveilled, or of course it's anti Semitic,

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Speaker 4: it must be connected to foreign terrorist groups, so of

510
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Speaker 4: course it falls under this umbrella. It goes into this

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Speaker 4: category something we.

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Speaker 3: Have to surveil.

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Speaker 4: So it's just very very easy for even people who

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Speaker 4: are like anti establishment Republicans to slip into that. That's

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Speaker 4: all right, it's a I mean, I think that is

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Speaker 4: also a huge unanswered question.

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Speaker 3: And uh there.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm optimistic about Tulsi Gabbert. I'm one of

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Speaker 4: the like, I'm still still faith in Tulsa.

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Speaker 5: But we'll see, Yeah, we will.

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Speaker 1: I Mean the reason I don't is because she's just

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Speaker 1: totally flipped her position on so many issues with no

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Speaker 1: explanation for it, and so you know, to me, it

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Speaker 1: just seems like she made a calculation that her path

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Speaker 1: to having more notoriety influenced power, et cetera. Was just

526
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Speaker 1: to come on board with Trump and whatever that entailed.

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Speaker 1: And hey, she played her cards right.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have a Trump administration with Taulsi Gabbert and

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Speaker 4: Mark Rubio than and I like Marco Ruby honestly, but

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Speaker 4: then just Marko Rubio, you know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 4: it just makes me more comfortable as an American that

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Speaker 4: there's at least some divergence on really critical issues. And yes,

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Speaker 4: I think Gabert has changed her mind on some key things,

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Speaker 4: but some of those have been I mean, I just

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Speaker 4: don't have a sense that maybe, other than Israel, she's

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Speaker 4: had a fundamental shift in her worldview and foreign policy

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Speaker 4: in a way that would put her in line with

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Speaker 4: a Marco Rubio. So I think we could be in

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Speaker 4: for some really interesting disagreements in the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how this all plays out.

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Speaker 1: It was definitely going to be interesting. We've referenced this already.

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Speaker 1: We could put a two up on the screen, Mark

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Speaker 1: or Rubio. It is official in for Secretary of State

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Speaker 1: Emily what happened here? Because this got reported and there

545
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Speaker 1: was kind of a freaking on the Magi side, because

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Speaker 1: he is a Neocon and you know, low Marco Trump

547
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Speaker 1: himself had very critical words of him to say in

548
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Speaker 1: the past about how he'd be Sheldon Naedelson's puppet, et cetera,

549
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Speaker 1: et cetera. How far we've come from those days, you know. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there was a delay in the release.

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Speaker 5: Of this name. On the Trump side.

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Speaker 1: There was some suggestion that like, oh, you know, Tucker

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Speaker 1: was flying down to talk to him, and there was

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Speaker 1: this whole coalescing of all these people who are going

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Speaker 1: to try to talk about MARKA. Rubio in a state,

556
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Speaker 1: but ultimately Marco Rubio is in as state. So what

557
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Speaker 1: do you make of all of that? What can you know?

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Speaker 1: What can you say about that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it was so the Rubio people

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Speaker 4: were really confident from the beginning, so I think they

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Speaker 4: and someone was confident obviously enough to leak it to

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Speaker 4: Maggie Haberman. And but that said, even after it's leaked

563
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Speaker 4: to the New York Times, there's a series of days

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Speaker 4: where Donald Trump makes all of these other major announcements

565
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Speaker 4: and of people who are much less, much less orthodox

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Speaker 4: picks than a senator. You know, Pete Haig Sath is

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Speaker 4: a good example, and Marco Rubio comes what Wednesday night,

568
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Speaker 4: Wednesday evening somewhere around there. I mean, yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: there was serious. I think there was an effort to

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Speaker 4: thwart it among people. You know, you probably get people

571
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Speaker 4: can probably guess who they are if you remember when

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Speaker 4: Dave Smith tweeted something like the battle against Mike Pompeio

573
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Speaker 4: is good, but like we have to make sure there

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Speaker 4: are no neo cons in this administration. Don Junior Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump Junior quote tweeted that and said agree one hundred.

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Speaker 3: One hundred, Yeah, I'm on it.

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Speaker 4: And so I think you could probably read into what

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Speaker 4: happened over those series of days. There was some leaks

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Speaker 4: that it was coming from Rick Cornell's camp. Rick Garnell

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Speaker 4: obviously would have wanted a position similar to that, and

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Speaker 4: he hasn't. He doesn't have anything so far, not D

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Speaker 4: N I, not.

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Speaker 7: C I A.

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Speaker 4: Those are all things that he was talked about for,

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Speaker 4: not d D, any of those like. It just didn't

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Speaker 4: happen for Rick Cornell, and I think there probably was.

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Speaker 4: Rick Cornell said he wasn't the one leaking negative things

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Speaker 4: about Marco Rubio.

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Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean that it wasn't. People in his camp.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean it wasn't people in his camp, And

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean actually that other whether they were in

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Speaker 4: his camp or not, it doesn't mean that, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe somebody like Donald Trump Junior or Tucker Carlson weren't

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Speaker 4: lobbying really hard for basically anyone but Marco Rubio or

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Speaker 4: John Bolton obviously, but basically anyone other than Marco Rubio

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Speaker 4: because they see him as a pretty like that's that's

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Speaker 4: a holdover from the previous Republican right on foreign policy right.

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Speaker 1: And so the fact that he gets chosen anyway in

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Speaker 1: spite of that kind of relatively organized effort to block him,

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Speaker 1: what do you think that that indicates about who has influenced?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that tells you exactly what's

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Speaker 4: going to happen in this administration that you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and you right into that Susie Wiles or.

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Speaker 4: Susie Wiles, probably Susie Wiles and Susie Wilds, by the way,

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Speaker 4: is I you know, has been affiliated with Mercury, which

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Speaker 4: is like the swampiest lobbying firm in d C.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of pharma, like all the all the

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Speaker 5: bad guys.

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Speaker 4: And it was who Paul Matnafort was lobbying for when

610
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Speaker 4: he was lobbying on behalf of the Party of Regions

611
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Speaker 4: in Ukraine, he was doing as a part through Mercury.

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Speaker 4: And so there's just a lot of I think donor

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Speaker 4: class baggage that comes with las A Vita and Stuzie Wiles.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder actually if the announcement of Tulsi as

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Speaker 4: D and I, which came out either right before, right

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Speaker 4: after Rubio, maybe right after the Rubio announcement, was part

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Speaker 4: of that push and pull with Don Juior, Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 4: and others saying like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Well at least give us throw us a bone here

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Speaker 1: basically bone right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I kind of wonder if that's what happened

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Speaker 4: in all of the infighting, because what was happening over

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Speaker 4: the course of this week, Like I had us Wurst,

624
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Speaker 4: who was very knowledgeable about the transition, who said, the

625
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Speaker 4: Trump people don't fully trust Tulsi Gabbard.

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Speaker 3: Ryan and I talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 4: That's not Trump himself, but Trump world doesn't fully trust

628
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Speaker 4: Tulsi Gabbard, and so she was.

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Speaker 3: Kind of on the chopping block.

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Speaker 4: Rubio I think absolutely was on the chopping block just

631
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Speaker 4: it seemed like Trump was pretty set on the pick,

632
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Speaker 4: but there was still intense fighting among like Don Junior

633
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Speaker 4: and others. So I don't know if Rubio, maybe this

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Speaker 4: is an interesting part of the story, if Rubio indicated

635
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Speaker 4: that his foreign policy was shifting more than maybe publicly

636
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Speaker 4: we've seen his foreign policy shift in a way that

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Speaker 4: made them feel comfortable.

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Speaker 3: But it's hard to imagine.

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Speaker 4: I mean, those guys are aligned basically with the Tulsi

640
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Speaker 4: Gabbard ideology, and I don't know how Rubio could have

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Speaker 4: indicated anything to them that would say he was really

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Speaker 4: in that category.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing is with Trump, if he actually

644
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Speaker 1: takes like a you know, an interest in something and

645
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Speaker 1: has a clear ideological position, and everyone's going to fall

646
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Speaker 1: in line with whatever it is he wants. It's just

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't always have, you know, And then it

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Speaker 1: becomes okay, well, what are the voices in the room

649
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Speaker 1: saying what are the options that are being presented?

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Speaker 5: And we've seen him be.

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Speaker 1: Very you know, kind of malleable in the past based

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Speaker 1: on who happens to be around him, etc. On something

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Speaker 1: that isn't core. So in any case, that was you know,

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Speaker 1: to me that was an interesting indication of the way

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Speaker 1: some of these intra mega battles are playing out. And

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Speaker 1: when Susie Wiles was first named chief of staff, I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit surprised by that, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 5: But I also was surprised that.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't concern over that in megaworld, because the thought

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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, she's just an apparatic, she's just non ideological.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing in this town. There's no such

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Speaker 1: thing as non ideological. Non ideological basically defaults to like

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Speaker 1: whatever the sort of mainstream conventional wisdom is, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so I think perhaps her fingerprints and her influence

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Speaker 1: seems to be on some of these picks. But also,

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Speaker 1: you know, Trump is a big boy and makes up

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Speaker 1: his own mind. And I always get irritated when people

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Speaker 1: are like, oh this it's the fault of this person,

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Speaker 1: is the fall of that person. It's like, this is

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Speaker 1: the man that was elected president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: He's had years to think about who he wants in

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Speaker 1: these positions. He's making up his own mind. So you know,

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Speaker 1: he also deserves like direct blame credit, however you want

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Speaker 1: to look at it. For the picks that he is

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Speaker 1: ultimately putting forward Rubio certainly another one in the you know,

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Speaker 1: Miriam Maddilson very pleased with this pick as well. He's

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Speaker 1: been extremely aggressive and hawkish, you know, on the side

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Speaker 1: of Israel. There was a poor Michael Tracy tweeted down

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Speaker 1: Israeli media apparently quote unquote dancing the horror and Netanyahu's

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Speaker 1: office over Trump filling his administration with quote old school Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly music to the ears of people like Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson or Dave Smith at I'll let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: take a listen to a little bit of that.

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Speaker 8: And going back back to Mike Wagonheim Mike just in

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Speaker 8: the past hour, the Trump team confirming the pick of

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Speaker 8: Mike Waltz as the National Security Advisor. And I don't

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Speaker 8: want to exaggerate and say that Israel, the government here

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Speaker 8: and its supporters are breathing a sigh of relief over

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Speaker 8: these picks. But certainly I think some of the concerns

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Speaker 8: they had about the next administration have been eased by

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Speaker 8: picking certainly these three, especially Marco Rubio, Mike Waltz, people

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Speaker 8: who have for example, spoken with I twenty four News

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Speaker 8: just in recent months about their strong support Israel and

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Speaker 8: their concerns over Iran.

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Speaker 9: Not just breathing a sigh of relief. God of, they're

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Speaker 9: dancing the horror right now at the Prime Minister's office

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Speaker 9: with these selections by Donald Trump. I mean, we were

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Speaker 9: expecting some isolationists possibly in those positions, or maybe some

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Speaker 9: who lean at least a little bit toward Trump's new

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Speaker 9: foreign policy in the MAGA foreign policy hasn't been that

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Speaker 9: case at all. I mean, Rubio and Mike Waltz are

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Speaker 9: in the mold of an old school Republicans on policy,

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Speaker 9: both pro Israel stalwarts to the hilt. They'll they'll challenge

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Speaker 9: anybody who have views the situation otherwise. I mean, you

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Speaker 9: couldn't have selected two better picks. I think if you're

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Speaker 9: sitting in the Prime Minister's office right now, and at

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Speaker 9: least the Phonic will be a firebrand at the United Nations.

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Speaker 9: She already told Isaac tug in a meeting this morning

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Speaker 9: that you'll have Israel's back there, and we didn't expect otherwise,

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Speaker 9: but always always good to hear that if you're within

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Speaker 9: the Israeli government in a very problematic institution like the UN.

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Speaker 9: By the way, Marco Rubio told us last Tuesday at

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump's watch party on election night that he would

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Speaker 9: with the Republicans taking over the Senate, not knowing then

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Speaker 9: that he would be nominated, likely for Secretary of State.

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Speaker 9: He said that the Republican Senate should take up defunding

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Speaker 9: more UN agencies that he feels are either in cohoots

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Speaker 9: with Hamas or turn a blind eye to those terror

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Speaker 9: organizations that operate in Gaza and elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: So, Miriam, definitely getting our money's worth with, you know,

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Speaker 1: cabinet that is quite is real first so and the.

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Speaker 3: Was he trying to sabotage them.

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Speaker 4: Script is that in a way that would like actually

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Speaker 4: piss off Maga more getting work.

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Speaker 1: Like none of that Maga forign policy here, old school

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Speaker 1: republic school Republican.

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Speaker 4: He's like that, they're totally from the old school Republican mold,

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Speaker 4: very very reassuring.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: Mary Madison gave him a hundred million dollars and there

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Speaker 1: were quite a few other donors in that camp that

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Speaker 1: Bill Lackman's of the world whatever who you know, wanted

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Speaker 1: a certain thing from the foreign policy team, and they.

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Speaker 5: Certainly got it well certainly got it.

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Speaker 4: And it's also just Marco Rubio surrounds himself with people

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Speaker 4: who actually are genuinely more realist. He's obviously been new

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Speaker 4: right on populist economics, so just being in that category

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Speaker 4: means that his milieu is more new right than it

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Speaker 4: is old right. So and he's you know, had some

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Speaker 4: kind of he said some interesting things about Ukraine that

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Speaker 4: have indicated, as we were talking about before, a possible shift.

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Speaker 4: But clearly, clearly if that were more evident, if there

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Speaker 4: was much more of a shift, you would not see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the other thing that's worth noting too, And then

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Speaker 1: we'll move on to the Senate stuff, but this will

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Speaker 1: be a good transition to that. Rubio is one of

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Speaker 1: the more interesting people in economics. He's more you know,

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Speaker 1: in terms of economics, he is more clearly in that

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Speaker 1: new right camp, as of course is Jade Vance. And

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Speaker 1: neither one of them will be in the Senate anymore,

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Speaker 1: leaving very few remaining there that have anything other than

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Speaker 1: kind of like old school doctrinaire or republican views. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's another significance of pulling him out of

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Speaker 1: that role and putting him into the role where his

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Speaker 1: ideology is the worst.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some people who are on the New Right

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Speaker 4: in particular, who are now really starting to worry about

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Speaker 4: this set because vants were very very key in that

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Speaker 4: new coalition of at least on the economic front, especially

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Speaker 4: in the economic front.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the Senate. Put a four up on

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Speaker 5: the screen.

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Speaker 1: So Maga's choice, Trump's choice, Tucker Carlson's choice was Rick Scott,

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Speaker 1: and he got third in terms of Senate majority vote.

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Speaker 1: It was a secret vote. John Thune ultimately wins with

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Speaker 1: twenty three votes, corn And got second with fifteen. Rick

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Speaker 1: Scott comes in third at thirteen. I'm quite sure if

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Speaker 1: this was not a secret ballot the results would be

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Speaker 1: very different. But break down some of these dynamics for Assemily.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this was and Ryan and I talked about

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Speaker 4: this yesterday as the vote was happening, which was like

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Speaker 4: it was a mess. I mean, this entire process has

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Speaker 4: been a mess. But Rick Scott for years has been

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Speaker 4: laying the groundwork essentially to step into the vacuum, knowing

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Speaker 4: that McConnell was ailing, which is another thing that was

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Speaker 4: kind of kept quiet. Yeah, for a long time, I

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Speaker 4: was talking to someone last night who works on the

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Speaker 4: hill and takes pictures on the hill and was saying

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Speaker 4: basically that McConnell doesn't like to be photographed in his wheelchair.

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Speaker 3: Wow, he is often in a wheelchair now.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of people in the Senate knew that

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Speaker 4: this was coming, and Rick Scott saw that started laying.

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Speaker 3: The groundwork for it.

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Speaker 4: Cornyan and Thune are big McConnell allies, So Maga world.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump Junior tweeted, I mean this was like a

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Speaker 4: year ago, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Less than a year ago. We cannot let Cornyan.

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Speaker 4: And Thune take over the Senate after Mitch McConnell leaves,

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Speaker 4: like he flat out said that. And now obviously John

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Speaker 4: Thune has won this race. So conservatives what got behind

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Speaker 4: the Rick Scott bid? Like maga people got behind the

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Speaker 4: Rick Scott bid because Rick Scott said agreed with Mike

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Speaker 4: Lee that they needed to do some of these procedural

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Speaker 4: changes to the way the Senate worked.

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Speaker 3: Some of that was like pulling.

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Speaker 4: Back Harry Reid's centralization of power, which people could debate

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Speaker 4: the internal inside baseball Senate mechanisms, but it was that

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Speaker 4: it was also just like come out with a clear

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Speaker 4: plan for your policy goals every year, like some fairly

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Speaker 4: unobjectionable things, but that Republican leadership is hesitant to do

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Speaker 4: because they don't want to be bossed around by what

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Speaker 4: did John McCain say, the like cuckoo birds like remember

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Speaker 4: this was back in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be bossed around by people like that.

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Speaker 4: They want to do what they want to do. And

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Speaker 4: so Rick Scott became the very problematic figurehead of what

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Speaker 4: I think is a good movement. Rick Scott has all

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Speaker 4: kinds of corporate baggage. He's all kinds of like he's

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Speaker 4: just not a charming spokes like.

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Speaker 5: A medicare frodster yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: And not a charming spokesman at all, right, for you know,

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Speaker 4: he doesn't make deals.

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Speaker 3: He's not one of those people.

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Speaker 4: Like even there's some maga people who you can hate

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Speaker 4: the swamp and you can still be good at, like operating,

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Speaker 4: you can still be good at like actually negotiating. Rick

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Speaker 4: Scott is not seen as one of those people at all,

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Speaker 4: and for good reason. He's he's started prickly, and so

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Speaker 4: everyone gets behind Rick Scott. But knowing that Rick Scott's

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Speaker 4: it doesn't have a shot in hell because people don't

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Speaker 4: really like him that much. They started to maga Conservative

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Speaker 4: started to work on John Cornyn, started to try to

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Speaker 4: get concessions out of John Cornyn and say, all right,

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Speaker 4: you know, Cornyn, you know that you need us, so

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Speaker 4: why don't you just say or why don't you just

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Speaker 4: like give us a little bit of these procedural differences.

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Speaker 4: He became a Kevin McCarthy figure. That's how Kevin McCarthy

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Speaker 4: became speaker, sort of giving a little to the Freedom Caucus, right,

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Speaker 4: that's what Mike Lee was asking for, and Corny went

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Speaker 4: along with it. Cornyn lost and it was obviously, I mean,

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Speaker 4: there was a sort of splitting the vote between Scott

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Speaker 4: and Cornyn. So I think most people didn't want John Thune.

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Speaker 4: But one of my sources who was working on this

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Speaker 4: gave a pretty good quote yesterday when I asked basically

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Speaker 4: what happened, how did fuon Edge ut Cornyn and Scott?

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Speaker 4: The source said, quote handing out committee assignments like candy

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Speaker 4: and activating k Street. The conference has been clear. This

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Speaker 4: person said that they want reforms and expect them. John

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Speaker 4: Thune did not win by an overwhelming margin. He's edge

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Speaker 4: ut corner by five votes. He has a mandate, but barely.

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Speaker 4: He's going to have to shake up the status quote

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Speaker 4: to retain the trust of the conference. So we will

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Speaker 4: I see if John Thune feels that pressure and gives

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Speaker 4: in to some of these things, like having four weeks

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Speaker 4: of debate before an omnibus, which I think everyone should say, like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's great. Four weeks of debate before we spend billions

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Speaker 4: of dollars in all of these different ways.

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Speaker 3: That sounds good. I wouldn't be super optimistic that he'll

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 5: Though, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean from Trump's perspective, I think he just wanted

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Speaker 1: someone who he felt would be guaranteed to do what

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Speaker 1: he wants him them.

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Speaker 3: To do, yeh.

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Speaker 1: And he felt the most confident that Rick Scott would

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Speaker 1: be that person. And again, like you know, to try

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Speaker 1: to parse the ideology is a waste of time in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways, because on ideologically.

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Speaker 5: You can corrack me if I'm wrong. I don't think

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Speaker 5: the three of.

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Speaker 1: These guys have much ideological difference. I mean, Rick Scott

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Speaker 1: is not on the New Right. You know, he put

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Speaker 1: out a he put out the Republican Policy Priorities for

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Speaker 1: the midterm elections that were like a disaster for them

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Speaker 1: because it called for sunsetting every single federal government program,

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Speaker 1: including Social Security and medicare every what was it three

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Speaker 1: years or something like that, and it was an albatross

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Speaker 1: around the nets of Republic. He's just he's a standard

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Speaker 1: issue Reagan type conservative as far as economics go, as

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Speaker 1: are all three of these. So I think it was

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Speaker 1: more about for Trump, which one do I feel the

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Speaker 1: most confident is going to be the most loyal to me.

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Speaker 1: My guess, looking from the outside at how all of

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Speaker 1: this is going to go, is that Trump has such

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Speaker 1: a hold on the party now and has such a

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Speaker 1: clear track record of punishing anyone who crosses him that

879
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Speaker 1: probably John Thune is going to do whatever Trump wants

880
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Speaker 1: him to do when Trump decides to wade into these debates.

881
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the part that maybe separates

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Speaker 1: the three of them, is that Trump doesn't always wait

883
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Speaker 1: into these So there's a lot you can do behind

884
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Speaker 1: the scenes that he's not really paying that close attention to,

885
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Speaker 1: and perhaps that's where the difference comes. But on anything

886
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Speaker 1: that actually is important to Donald Trump, like all three,

887
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Speaker 1: and the indication to me is all three of these

888
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: men immediately when Trump was like, I want recess appointments,

889
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: were like, no problem to recess appointments, which again is

890
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Speaker 1: handing a gigantic part of their power over to the

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Speaker 1: executive branch.

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Speaker 4: Although one point that I think is interesting, just as

893
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Speaker 4: a hypothetical to test, is what does John Thune do

894
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Speaker 4: when Donald Trump? If Donald Trump we don't know this

895
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Speaker 4: yet because we don't know much about what he would

896
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Speaker 4: actually do when it comes to Ukraine, but when Donald

897
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Speaker 4: Trump wants to pair Ukraine funding to a border thing

898
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Speaker 4: that won't get through, or when Donald Trump wants to

899
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Speaker 4: actually force Ukraine to the table and the aid becomes

900
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Speaker 4: conditional or something like that. John Thune is a McConnell

901
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Speaker 4: ally he is, and Mitch McConnell's still in the Senate,

902
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Speaker 4: and Mitch McConnell is tied into the donor class that

903
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Speaker 4: is deeply, deeply, deeply, deeply deeply supportive of Zelensky and Ukraine,

904
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Speaker 4: and that is their red line. And I'm genuinely I

905
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Speaker 4: think it's a pretty interesting hypothetical. I agree that I

906
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Speaker 4: think John Thune will go along with a lot of

907
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Speaker 4: the Trump agenda, but there are certain things that are

908
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Speaker 4: such red lines for the donor class.

909
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Speaker 3: We don't know if Trump will test those boundaries.

910
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Speaker 4: But if he does, I actually wonder what would happen.

911
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Speaker 4: I don't know because John Thune is so deep fully

912
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Speaker 4: in Mashton k Street, the donor class, McConnell world, the

913
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Speaker 4: old school Republican Party, and their red lines are so bright.

914
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Speaker 4: Let's say Donald Trump decides to do something hydrodocks in Ukraine.

915
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Speaker 4: Maybe he would do something weird on Israel. Maybe Telsea

916
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Speaker 4: Gabbard does something that they find objectionable. These are all

917
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Speaker 4: just random hypotheticals, and if they happened, I don't know

918
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Speaker 4: that Sune might put up a like a fight because.

919
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Speaker 3: He's just so entangled with McConnell world.

920
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Speaker 4: So we'll see, but I think generally I agree that

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Speaker 4: he'll he'll be pretty what's the best word, compliant, Yes, pliable?

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right.

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Speaker 1: Let's also so we don't have to play the thot,

924
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Speaker 1: but it is worth noting this is a five. You

925
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Speaker 1: don't have to play it though that he did say

926
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Speaker 1: he's going to keep the filibuster in place. We'll see

927
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Speaker 1: if that maintains. But that's the current current positioning. I

928
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Speaker 1: imagine there may be some pressure to get rid of that,

929
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Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of mechanisms you can use,

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Speaker 1: like budget reconciliation that allows you to get through what

931
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Speaker 1: you want using majority vote. You know, democrated some of

932
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Speaker 1: that they were in office, but they also be like, oh,

933
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Speaker 1: the parliamentarian said we could do blah blah blah. I

934
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Speaker 1: don't think that the Republicans will have that same like.

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Speaker 5: Oh the rules the parliamentarian ruled, we can't do.

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Speaker 1: So there's still a lot they can get done with

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Speaker 1: a fifty three se majority.

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Speaker 4: They're pushing reconciliation right away. That has to be first

939
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Speaker 4: one hundred days, pass the priorities through reconciliation, border priorities.

940
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Speaker 3: Like put it all in there. Yeah, so that'll definitely happen.

941
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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

942
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Speaker 1: The other thing that David Soroda always with his eye

943
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Speaker 1: on the ball, You guys should be subscribing to eleve

944
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Speaker 1: News because they.

945
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Speaker 5: Do great work.

946
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Speaker 1: I don't care where you are on the ideological spectrum.

947
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Speaker 1: Put this up on the screen soon. Is like an

948
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Speaker 1: actual lobbyist, like like that was his profession before he

949
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Speaker 1: was in the Senate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a lobbyist.

951
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Speaker 1: And Serota says less than two years after the East

952
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Speaker 1: Palestine disaster, Republicans have now made their new leader a

953
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Speaker 1: former railroad lobbyist who helped block real safety legislation. So

954
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Speaker 1: he is a swamp creature. I don't think there is

955
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Speaker 1: any denying that he.

956
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Speaker 3: Was the problem.

957
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Speaker 4: On that jd Vance shared Brownville, Johnathan was a huge,

958
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Speaker 4: hugely problematic.

959
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Speaker 3: What's the what's the phrase gumbing up the works? Yeah

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Speaker 3: for that, bill?

961
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Speaker 5: Gotcha?

962
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Speaker 1: The other thing last piece and time we'll get to

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Speaker 1: Trump's meeting with Biden, is you know this is indicative

964
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Speaker 1: of how I think most of this is going to

965
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Speaker 1: operate on the Hill, whether it's people who were at

966
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Speaker 1: some point adversarial to different Donald Trump priorities. Trump has

967
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Speaker 1: cemented his full control of this party Congress, and Troy

968
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Speaker 1: Neills had a memorable quote about this.

969
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Speaker 5: Let's take a listen.

970
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Speaker 6: There's no question he's a leader of our party. So

971
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Speaker 6: now he's got a mission, state of his mission, and

972
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Speaker 6: his goals and objectives, whatever that is. We need to

973
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Speaker 6: embrace it, all of it, every single word. If Donald

974
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Speaker 6: Trump says jumped three feet high and scratch your head,

975
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Speaker 6: we all jump three feet high and scratch your heads.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I mean that's that's whatever his goals are

977
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

978
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Speaker 4: It's what a lot of the Magabas wants. It's exactly

979
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Speaker 4: what the Magama wants to be hear. And it's a

980
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 4: great reminder that there is no Mago without Donald Trump,

981
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: meaning he is the ideology. And you know, normally what

982
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 4: you would say is whatever you know is you know

983
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: what the Tea party wants, that's what we want. You know.

984
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: It's different when you're saying when this one individual wants,

985
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Speaker 4: that's what we want.

986
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Speaker 3: He is the ideology of MAGA.

987
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is Yeah, that's exactly right. And

988
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: so it's a very honest statement. And while others would

989
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: have too much shame to say it quite as overtly

990
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: as this gentleman did, that is that is the operating

991
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: sentiment among the vast majority of the Republican Party at

992
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: this point. Interesting meeting that happened yesterday between the current

993
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: president and the once in future president. We can go

994
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: ahead and take a look at this Joe Biden meeting

995
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. There fireplace a blazon in the background,

996
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: and seemed quite friendly. I was enjoying himself, certainly. Look

997
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: at Joe Biden, man, big old smile on his face,

998
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: seems happy and relaxed. There's a photo op afterwards, everybody

999
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: getting together for a nice, nice picture with fire is.

1000
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Speaker 4: The metaphor, right Crystal, Because if we go back and

1001
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: we look at fire of.

1002
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Speaker 5: That relationship, right, burning.

1003
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Speaker 4: Bright, burning bright, burning furious, I know we're gonna have

1004
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Speaker 4: a Also, if you're if you're watching this, we're gonna

1005
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Speaker 4: play the video of Obama and Trump's meeting, which was

1006
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Speaker 4: so much colder, and literally must have been colder because

1007
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Speaker 4: there was no fire trying in that same fire.

1008
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Speaker 5: That's so true.

1009
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Speaker 4: But I mean the photo shot, the photo shoot that

1010
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Speaker 4: they did with Joe Biden. I actually thought was at first,

1011
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: I was like, this looks like AI right when I

1012
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: saw the pictures, Yeah, because they were so friendly and warm,

1013
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 4: and a lot of people, Chris, I don't know what

1014
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: your take is on this, but a lot of people

1015
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Speaker 4: are looking in this, at least in the online discourse

1016
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: and being like this makes me so mad because you

1017
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: were calling him, You were calling Trumpet fascist, the end

1018
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: of democracy. He was being compared to Nazis. He was saying,

1019
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: you know what, you were pushing the story about how

1020
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: he wanted generals like Hitler. The DNC projected that onto

1021
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Speaker 4: Madison Square Garden. So now you're, well, look Mingham with

1022
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 4: this beautiful, warm fire and friendly smile that is just

1023
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 4: as warm as the fire into the Oval office and

1024
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 4: acting like it's business as usual. Feels like you were

1025
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 4: just messing with us to get our votes. Yeah, well,

1026
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: that's what serious about it.

1027
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Speaker 1: That's a thing to be enraged about, whether you're on

1028
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: the right or the leaf, because from my perspective, Donald

1029
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Trump does have a fascist ideology and attempts to operate

1030
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Speaker 1: as such. And Joe Biden is the person I mean,

1031
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: in a way, it's perfect because Joe Biden is the

1032
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Speaker 1: person most proximately responsible for ushering Donald Trump back into

1033
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: the White House. So why shouldn't it be warm and friendly?

1034
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: You know, his ash should have gotten out after one term,

1035
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: and there should have been a democratic primary and a

1036
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: democratic process, and instead, you know, even as he was

1037
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Speaker 1: so aduled that he was unable to even host like

1038
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Speaker 1: a leadership meeting of Congressional Democrats without Nancy Plosi having

1039
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Speaker 1: a Russian and save him because he forgot where he

1040
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: was and what he was even supposed to be doing,

1041
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: he still was so arrogant that he thought he needed

1042
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: to run again and have another four year term in

1043
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Speaker 1: the White House, even though it's preposterous that he's even

1044
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: the president right now given his condition. So in a sense,

1045
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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this is kind of perfect because you

1046
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 1: are the person who helped get this man right back

1047
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: where he was before, even though your previous you know,

1048
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: stated goal and what you thought was going to be

1049
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: your legacy was the one thing that Joe Biden was

1050
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: nominated by Democrats to do in twenty twenty was to

1051
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: end the Trump era, and instead you have extended it.

1052
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: So hey, you know, there you go, enjoying the fruits

1053
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: of your labor.

1054
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Speaker 5: Joe Biden.

1055
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Speaker 4: Great work, totally, And I'm loving the memes that Brandon

1056
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 4: is like a secret Trump supporter, right, like this has all.

1057
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Speaker 5: Been He does lookt up, he does look hat when.

1058
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Speaker 3: He put the Trump hat on, and I don't think.

1059
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Speaker 1: He understands because his brain doesn't function that Like he

1060
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: thinks he's been proven right by the fact that Kamala lost. Yes,

1061
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: he thinks people are looking at this because I'm sure

1062
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: this is what his aim aids are telling him and

1063
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Speaker 1: his wife and whoever hunter that oh, you would have

1064
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: won Pops, you would have done it, and everybody sees

1065
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: that now everybody regrets that they didn't keep you. No,

1066
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Speaker 1: the reality is, as the Pod Saved Dudes revealed, you

1067
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Speaker 1: are headed to a four hundred electoral college vote loss,

1068
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Speaker 1: like a dramatic sweeping. Right now, It's like, okay, they

1069
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Speaker 1: lost every battleguard. It's like what it was closed, it

1070
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Speaker 1: was like a couple hundred thousand votes. All right, we

1071
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Speaker 1: could get back in and blah blah blah. We held

1072
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Speaker 1: on to most of our senates wing state seats outside

1073
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Speaker 1: of Bob Casey. Like, okay, but if it was four

1074
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Speaker 1: hundred electoral college but you're talking at super majority in

1075
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Speaker 1: the Senate, very likely, you're talking massive house margins.

1076
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Speaker 5: You're talking like just it's over, It's over, over, over.

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Speaker 1: Just to show you the contrast with the Obama Trump visit,

1078
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Speaker 1: which I think also is just a symbolic two of

1079
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Speaker 1: this is in Trump's first time in Washington, like this

1080
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Speaker 1: is normal now, And there are a lot of young

1081
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: Americans for whom you know, in terms of their cognizant life,

1082
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: the trump eras really all they know. So let's take

1083
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Speaker 1: a look at the very different vibe of Obama and

1084
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Speaker 1: Trump together during that transition.

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Speaker 7: Most of all, I want to emphasize to you.

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Speaker 2: Miss President elect, that.

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Speaker 4: We now are going to want to do everything we

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Speaker 4: can to help you succeed, because if you succeed, then

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Speaker 4: the country succeeds.

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Speaker 7: Please fun well, Thank you very much, President Obama. This

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Speaker 7: was a meeting that was going to last for maybe

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Speaker 7: ten or fifteen minutes, and we were just going to

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00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 7: get to know each other. We had never met each other.

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Speaker 7: I have great respect. The meeting lasted for almost an

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Speaker 7: hour and a half, and it could have, as far

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Speaker 7: as I'm concerned, it could have gone on for a

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Speaker 7: lot longer. We really we discussed a lot of different situations,

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Speaker 7: some wonderful and some difficulties. I very much look forward

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Speaker 7: to dealing with the president in the future, including council.

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Speaker 5: So anyway, no fire blazing.

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Speaker 1: There very obviously much different body language for those who

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Speaker 1: read into all of those things, and the vibe very different.

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Speaker 4: And I like your point that for a lot of

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00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 4: young Americans this is perfectly normal now and for the

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00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: last ten years now, this is don Trump has been normalized.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is this is politics in America now.

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00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 4: The host of the celebrity I will never get numb

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Speaker 4: to the host of the Celebrity Apprentice being the president,

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00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: going straight from the Celebrity Apprentice to the President of

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Speaker 4: the United States, partially because Democrats insisted on Hillary Clinton

1111
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: and then insisted on Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, of the many takeaways and

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00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: autopsies and whatever, it's not maybe the most important point,

1115
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: but one important point is, like, this is the era

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00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: that we're living in, and so just now trying some

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00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: blow dried like Pete Bootage or Gavin Newsom or whatever,

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00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: and thinking that's going to be the answer.

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Speaker 5: To your prayers.

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Speaker 3: Blow dried.

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00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 5: True?

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh you know what I mean by that, well quaft, Yeah,

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00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean like that very like buttoned, buttoned up politiciany,

1124
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: like very smooth on Fox News or whatever that liberals

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00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: fall in love with. But you know, Trump is obnoxious

1126
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: and divisive, and he puts on a show and he

1127
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: goes out there and ransom raves about you know, people's

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00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: dick size and Hannibal Lecter and whatever.

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Speaker 4: By the way, nobody has talked about how Hannibal Lecter.

1130
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: Nobody's talked about him for Attorney General, and nobody's talked

1131
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: about how he's the big winner of this election cycle.

1132
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: Because I remember a couple of months ago NPR did

1133
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 4: like a half hour long show about how weird it

1134
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: was that Donald Trump was.

1135
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 5: Saying this than every rally.

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00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 3: Of course it was weird, but like who.

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 4: Cares the scheme of things?

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00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: And Democrats are still out there, like, let me focus

1139
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: group test my way, Like do you watch this man? Yeah,

1140
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: do you see what he does? Do you think that

1141
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: he went, oh, Hannibal lecter focus groups? Well no, literally no, no,

1142
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: that is not how politics works, at least not in

1143
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: this era. So you know, take some take some cues here,

1144
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: learn some lessons.

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00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just The last thought on all of

1146
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: this is I blamed Democrats for like their failures and

1147
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 4: allowing the host of celebrity Apprentice to become president. But

1148
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: it's also Republicans, like Donald Trump is right in his

1149
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: diagnosis of many many of the problems in the Republican Party,

1150
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 4: and because Republicans don't have viable alternatives to Donald Trump,

1151
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: you keep getting trumped too.

1152
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: So it's just it's the system we get. We get

1153
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: the system we deserve.

1154
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: We get the culture and the system and everything we deserve.

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00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: All right, Well, speaking of speaking of who's in control

1156
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: and what era we're in, I mean a lot of

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00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: ways this is Elon Musk's era as well.

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Speaker 5: We can put this up on the screen.

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00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: Apparently, reportedly from a couple of different outlets, there's starting

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Speaker 1: to be some heartburn among the Trump's staff with Elon

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00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: Musk's described near constant.

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Speaker 5: Presence at Mara a Lago.

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Speaker 1: One person said he's behaving as if he is a

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Speaker 1: co president and making sure everyone knows it.

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Speaker 5: There is no indication, though, that.

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Speaker 1: Trump himself is irritated with Elon. I'm and it would

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Speaker 1: make sense to I would not be surprised if at

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Speaker 1: some point Trump does get irritate with Elon, especially if

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Speaker 1: he feels like he's hogging too much of the spotlight,

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Speaker 1: taking too much credit for things that Trump thinks he

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00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: should be getting credit for, etc. So I could certainly

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Speaker 1: see that break coming. But this reporting suggests more that

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Speaker 1: internally some of the other people who would be jocking

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Speaker 1: for position around Trump are pissed off at how much

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Speaker 1: influenced Elon has.

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Speaker 5: Is that the way you read it too?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, And it could just be that the

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Speaker 4: surces to NBC are a few people who have been

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00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: really put off by this, and there are other people

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Speaker 4: who haven't said anything about it. I think that's the

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Speaker 4: case with some of these stories, is it gets the

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Speaker 4: temperature of a group of people who are like upset,

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Speaker 4: and then they tell the reporter to talk to their

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Speaker 4: friend who they know is also upset, and then that

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Speaker 4: person sends them to one other person. And it could

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Speaker 4: be limited to a small group of people, and they're

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Speaker 4: not impossible. Yeah, although it's also entirely possible that Elon

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Speaker 4: Musk has turned Donald Trump off or still will turn

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump off because you fly too close to the sun,

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Speaker 4: and we've seen it happen with Trump that he really,

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00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 4: I mean jd Vance has handled this fairly deftly that

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Speaker 4: like you really do not want to look in any

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00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: way whatsoever, like you were taking credit, like you are

1194
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 4: the brains behind the operation that infuriates Donald Trump. So

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Speaker 4: it wouldn't surprise me if that had started to rub

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Speaker 4: Trump or people close to Trump in the wrong way.

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Speaker 3: It also wouldn't surprise me if this.

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Speaker 4: Was limited to like, I don't know, Susie Wiles or

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Speaker 4: someone like that, Yeah, and her allies.

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Speaker 1: To me, the way I read these comments. One of

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Speaker 1: the things they said is that Elon's sure taking lots

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: of credit for the president's victory, bragging about America packet

1203
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: ex to anyone who will listen, trying to make President

1204
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: Trump feel indebted to him in the present is indebted

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Speaker 1: to no one. I read those comments as someone wanting

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: Trump to see those comments then get pissed off. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I think an attempt to try to create that division,

1208
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: which probably is inevitable given Yeah, I mean too, I

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00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: think egos and narcissist. Eventually, there's going to be some

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Speaker 1: source of conflict. I would be surprised if that didn't

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Speaker 1: happen at some point.

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Speaker 4: Especially with what seems to be right now a very

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00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: fluid moment in Musk's sort of ideological journey, and that

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Speaker 4: after Donald Trump was assassinated like he had been giving

1215
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 4: significant money we now assassinated, yet attempted assassination still alive,

1216
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: still with us, very much so that Elon Musk was

1217
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: formally endorsing him, but we now know he had been

1218
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: giving a lot of money to Ron DeSantis R. In

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 4: the past, and so we also know he had been

1220
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: like fairly aligned with Democrats in the past.

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00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he previously thought that Trump was completely unacceptable

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00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: to be in the presidency.

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Speaker 4: And not just because he was like a never Trump Republican,

1224
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: but because he I mean, this is a Testla guy

1225
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 4: like he has. Like we heard them talking about climate

1226
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 4: change that one time on the X Space when Donald Trump,

1227
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 4: Like it was just a wild, like total cartoonish conversation

1228
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 4: that they were having.

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Speaker 3: But like they do have some differences.

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Speaker 4: It just seems like Elon Musk, in this ideological journey

1231
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: that he's on, is becoming more and more ideologically aligned

1232
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: with Trump himself. Like Donald Trump as an ideology, like

1233
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 4: we were just talking about, is like Donald Trump is

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00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: the ideology of MAGA. It seems like Musk has become

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00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 4: more and more aligned with that, even so though he's

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00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: not fully there. I mean, they don't agree on one

1237
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 4: hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Of the thing.

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Speaker 4: So you could see there being a break for a

1240
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 4: number of different reasons, or you could see Elon Musk

1241
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: just saying the stakes are so high, That's why I

1242
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 4: put literally so much money behind this election. I'm going

1243
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: to go along to get along, and I'll be able

1244
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 4: to be playing in the little sandbox with the aik

1245
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: and overseeing what kinds of stuff my competitors yeah, might

1246
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: benefit from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean it's just like such oligarchic behavior.

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 5: Absolutely, just like peak oligarch I'm going to talk.

1249
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: A little bit more about this in my monologue, so

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00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: I'll save some of my commentary for there, but I

1251
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: just want those of you, my friends on the right,

1252
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: Imagine if it was George Soros, who was we We can

1253
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: put this next piece up on the screen. Elon went

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00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: with Trump to his first post election meeting with the

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00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: House Republican Conference. Imagine if Kamala got elected and she

1256
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: had her little George Soros babysitter, her oligark billionaire babysitter,

1257
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: running around with her to all.

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00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 5: Of her important meetings.

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Speaker 1: And there's some rumors, and I think it's appropriate for

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00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: people to take this also as a sort of threat.

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00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: We can put the next piece up on the screen

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: that Elon is threatening to fund primary challenges against any

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00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: House Republican who dares to step.

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00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 5: Out from Trump's agenda.

1265
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that rumor is true, but

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00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: I certainly believe believe that's the message that is being

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: sent to House and Senate Republicans.

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Speaker 5: You've got the richest.

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00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: Man on the planet, who has tens of billions of

1270
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: dollars in federal government contractors. His companies are some of

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00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: the largest Pentagon contractors. So he's got a lot of

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00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: incentive to make sure that, you know, Trump gets his way,

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00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: and because when Trump gets his way, Elon gets his way,

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00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: and for him to be there acting as sort of

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00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: like enforcer and you know, and threat. Again, just imagine

1276
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: if the shoe was on the other foot and it

1277
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: was Kamala with George Soros or Bill Gates or whatever

1278
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: billionaire you want to imagine, who was like your worst nightmare.

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, no one voted for Elon Musk, right, he's

1280
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: not elected, and yet he has this incredibly powerful position

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: and a lot directly at stake, not just in terms

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: of those government contracts, in terms of, hey, what happens

1283
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: with the you know, the ev subsidies, how are those managed? Hey,

1284
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: he's got a number of his companies have different regulatory

1285
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 1: issues with the federal government and under investigation from things

1286
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: like you know, labor violations and environmental potential violations. And

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: so he has putting aside any ideological project, which I

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01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: think he has as well, an ideological project, but even

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01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: putting that aside, he himself has more at risk in

1290
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, with federal government contracts and regulation than probably

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01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: any other person on the planet.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that completely.

1293
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: And we have more at risk as a country from

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01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: his companies, which in some cases like SpaceX, this is

1295
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: an amazing company.

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01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: You turn to Neuralink. I think it's a.

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Speaker 4: Totally different conversation about the benefits of Neuralink and some

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01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: of those companies. Now, I would rather have Elon Musk

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: than to his credit. I'd rather have Elon Musk than

1300
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 4: either like Charles Koch or George Sorows partially because of

1301
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: something he tweeted very early this morning, Crystal, when somebody said,

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Speaker 4: some are calling Elon the George Soros of the right.

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Speaker 3: That's not really accurate.

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Speaker 4: He's more like forty four George Soros of the right.

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Speaker 4: Alongside their two net worths juxtaposed.

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Speaker 1: And based on their giving and their influence in this

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Speaker 1: election in Por two, there really is no Kamala has

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Speaker 1: plenty of billionaires bagging. I don't want to, you know,

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Speaker 1: make it seem like she doesn't, but there is really

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Speaker 1: no parallel for the level of influence and infiltration of

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Speaker 1: the Elon Musk with the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 4: So Musk responded to that tweet, oh really, one fifteen

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Speaker 4: am and said, more accurate would be that I'm quote

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Speaker 4: George Soros of the middle. I don't want the pendulum

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Speaker 4: to swing too far right, but right now is just

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Speaker 4: too far left. And like, this is a guy who,

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Speaker 4: you know, a couple of hours later was quote tweeting

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Speaker 4: Glenn Greenwald, he's just a I like to again, to

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Speaker 4: his credit, I find him to be a genuinely interesting

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Speaker 4: ideological figure. I find him to be objectionable as an

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Speaker 4: oligarch and someone who's like clearly using his business empire

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Speaker 4: to I would say, influence public policy beyond the bounds.

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Speaker 3: Of what's fair and just. But yeah, at.

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Speaker 4: The same time, at least he's being honest about it,

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Speaker 4: whereas we throw awards at the Kox and George Soros

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Speaker 4: and honor them for their influence of a public policy

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Speaker 4: instead of being like that this is corrupt.

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Speaker 1: Another thing that's going to be interesting is if Trump

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Speaker 1: is less Hawckey should be SEVI China this time around,

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Speaker 1: because Elon has massive financial interests and you know, good

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Speaker 1: relationships with the Chinese government. So you know from my

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Speaker 1: perspective that could be benefit of Elon having you know, again,

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Speaker 1: I object to the oligarch babysitter concepts out of principle,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that there might be some areas

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, well that's actually better if we're

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Speaker 1: not trying to start a warwi China right now.

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Speaker 4: And I know this isn't any conservatives priority, but just

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Speaker 4: from the question of principle, Like if you're somebody that's

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Speaker 4: upset about electric vehicles, you know, and you don't like

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Speaker 4: electric vehicles, and you think that the government has been

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Speaker 4: unduly subsidizing electric vehicles, and you think that that's green corruption.

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk is the man behind that, Like he's been

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Speaker 4: the architect of that with Tesla, and Donald Trump has

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Speaker 4: changed his position on electric vehicles because of Elon Musk Musk,

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Speaker 4: And this is again, the difference between Trump and Elon

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Speaker 4: is like the difference between Trump and Elon and other

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Speaker 4: politicians is Trump has come out and said he's literally

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Speaker 4: changed his position on electric vehicles because Elon has been

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Speaker 4: giving him a lot of money and support.

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Speaker 5: Yeah,