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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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Speaker 2: Single best idea on a Monday. It has been unlike

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Speaker 2: any Monday in recent history, surveillance history, and in American history.

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Speaker 2: First of all, thanks to the team for an incredible

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Speaker 2: amount of work Saturday, Sunday and this Monday to bring

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Speaker 2: you conversation with true experts about these events, the assassination

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Speaker 2: attempt on a former president, to continue to do the

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Speaker 2: market coverage, the bank earnings coming out and all that,

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Speaker 2: but just to get good conversation and perspective and opinion

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Speaker 2: about this moment in American history today. Andrew Rutliche was

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Speaker 2: with us with Boden Ronald Feynman of Florida Atlantic with

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Speaker 2: a definitive book, fourteen Chapters of Assassination and Attempted Assassination

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Speaker 2: in America. And Robert D. Kaplan Robert T. Kaplan is

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Speaker 2: my book of the year last year The Loom of Time,

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Speaker 2: which stretches from Morocco across Eurasia. If you will, he

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Speaker 2: is affiliated with Eurasia Group being Bremer Shop over to

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Speaker 2: India in the stands The Loom of Time. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a great read. And then he has a new read,

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Speaker 2: The Tragic Mind, which is just out. I have not

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Speaker 2: read it yet. I think I have to read it

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Speaker 2: now after the tragic events that we've had. Here is

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Speaker 2: Robert D. Kaplan. I'm Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: No, not really. Trump is a really you know, he's

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Speaker 3: a character out of Shakespeare, even if he's never read Shakespeare.

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Speaker 3: But I don't, I don't know. He's pretty he's pretty

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Speaker 3: aggressive towards China. And keep in mind that the that

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Speaker 3: the you know that the actions between the US and

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Speaker 3: the Chinese are getting more and more aggressive, and that

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Speaker 3: is dangerous, you know, because this is what happened before

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Speaker 3: the Cuban Missile crisis. It was only after the Cuban

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Speaker 3: Missile crisis, after both superpowers stared into the ABYSS that

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Speaker 3: they went on to have the tunked and you know,

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Speaker 3: strategic arms limitation treaties and all of that stuff. So

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Speaker 3: what we need is a real cooling of relations between

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Speaker 3: the US and China, I mean cooling down the rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: Robert T. Kaplan again, I'm a to do list. That

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Speaker 2: pile of books you have in the living room wherever

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Speaker 2: you read your books. The Tragic Mind is his new

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Speaker 2: effort out just a couple of months ago, as well

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Speaker 2: as The Loom of Time, my book of the year

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Speaker 2: last year. Again any number of perspectives. Matthew Winkler, the

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Speaker 2: founder of Bloomberg News, it's his fault. I'm here and

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Speaker 2: of course editor in chief Emeritus dark in the door

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Speaker 2: of this morning to speak of South Africa. His great

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Speaker 2: essay with Shinpei about the success of South Africa is

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Speaker 2: seen in the bottom market. Some of that off their

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Speaker 2: new election, a different South Africa polity leading to that.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in the coming days. It's an

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Speaker 2: important essay, hugely read across Europe and Africa. But we

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Speaker 2: had to talk to matt Winkler about these political times.

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Speaker 2: It was a very informed discussion, and particularly his history

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Speaker 2: he's out of Kenyon and the history of across Pennsylvania

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Speaker 2: into Ohio. That was really really quite something. Here is

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Speaker 2: Matthew Winkler on the moment at hand.

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Speaker 1: Remember what the record shows, which is that in almost

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Speaker 1: every instance where there's been an attempted assassination, whether it's

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Speaker 1: FDR in thirty three or even Theodore Roosevelt a month

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Speaker 1: before the election before him. More recently in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: there were two attempts on President Gerald Ford and of

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Speaker 1: course that was followed by the attempt on Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 1: None of those events actually changed, if you will, the outcome.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the outcome turned out to be or was perceived

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Speaker 1: to be. Ronald Reagan did get a boost in the polls,

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Speaker 1: but then became very unpopular after that. It didn't help

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Speaker 1: Gerald Ford get elected against Jimmy Carter, and Theodore Roosevelt

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Speaker 1: certainly didn't benefit from having a bullet in his chest

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Speaker 1: when the election occurred. So we have to be careful

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Speaker 1: look at the historical record. The historical record says that

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Speaker 1: these assassination attempts so far, at least none of them

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Speaker 1: were significant.

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Speaker 2: Matt Winkler, the founder of Bloomberg News, so continue our coverage.

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Speaker 2: Joe Matthew and Kaylee Lynees leading the effort with balance

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Speaker 2: of power in Milwaukee. All sorts of good efforts by

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Speaker 2: our White House team as well in those following the

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