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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell's CBS Sports Showtime. The labels that pay me

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Speaker 2: to hold this microphone like a damn grudge. Motherfucker. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: A bearded brethren in this game. Luke Thomas, it's Friday.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got shit to do? How you feeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm on my second cup of coffee, but it is

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Speaker 3: a delicious cup of Joe, and I'm excited for Friday's show.

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Speaker 3: I just rhymed. How about that hard bars with a

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Speaker 2: Yes, extra hard bars. You have been doing a lot

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of My kid woke up at five forty

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Speaker 1: At one in the morning. I woke up.

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Speaker 3: know nothing that a cup of coffee can't probably, I mean, did.

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Speaker 2: You fall asleep like this or do was it like

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Speaker 3: I did this number like you ever seen your ever

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Speaker 3: And I was falling forward like that and I woke

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Speaker 3: up and there's drool all over my desk. It was Listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a proud man anymore because the proudness has

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Speaker 3: Heading into this contest, he had just lost to James

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Speaker 3: Ago, right, So what is it that you think is

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Speaker 3: by the way, I didn't think Belford looked like a

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Speaker 3: Humdinger on the mits either, BC. I wonder how you

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Speaker 2: But okay, but it looked like he looked like a

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying on the mits it wasn't like he

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Speaker 2: Trailer's breaking glass right now. Their model is this ridiculous

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Speaker 2: I kind of felt bad for the fighters, Luke. I mean, look,

431
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 2: this is their shit show, right, I mean the maybe

432
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 2: this was Chiller's way to cover up the narrative of

433
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: should have vander be fighting by just throwing the Trumps

434
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Speaker 2: at you.

435
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 3: It's a distraction too, because dude, if we're talking about

436
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 3: Don Junior and we're talking about Donald Trump, and we're

437
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 3: talking about you know, whatever the fuck was going on,

438
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: we're not talking about the fact that Evander's going to

439
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: be fifty nine in less than a month and all

440
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: of the other relevant you know, Commission shopping and everything else.

441
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 3: All the focus is on, Oh my god, President Trump

442
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: is going to be commemorating nine to eleven by calling

443
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Speaker 3: a boxing fight in Florida.

444
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Speaker 1: You know, it's I can't.

445
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Speaker 2: Write this, h what you say, Luke, you can't right

446
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: this ship. And by the way, Lampley pulling out is

447
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: like the ultimate indictment of of of how bad this is,

448
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: and it was the right move. It would have been

449
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: almost hypocritical for Lampley, who was like the most straight lace,

450
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: like he's the voice of our lifetime. Him pulling out,

451
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: whether it was for Trump, whether it was for Holyfield,

452
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: whether it was for both, it just seemed like, Okay,

453
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 2: at least there's an adult in this room.

454
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Speaker 3: I can say one last thing I can say, Brian,

455
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Speaker 3: and I wonder how you feel about this, as you,

456
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 3: between the two of us, you are much more of

457
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: the boxing fan, not just as a way you've lived

458
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: your life, but for how long that has been the case.

459
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 3: So in going back and looking at some of these

460
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: old broadcasts, I saw an old broadcast of Lampley and

461
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: Merchant calling the holy Field and Foreman fight that was

462
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Speaker 3: in Atlantic City, just you know, obviously at the Trump

463
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Speaker 3: or whatever the venue was had the big Trump sign

464
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Speaker 3: and it was in Atlantic City.

465
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Speaker 2: It was at the Convention Center, which they renamed Trump

466
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Speaker 2: Trump Plator whatever the hell they named.

467
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Speaker 1: You know, Trump put his name. You can see Trump's

468
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: name there and whatever.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But the point being is, you know, they had

470
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Speaker 3: jackets on and eyes and they had an HBO logo

471
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: on their shirt, and they've spoken these sort of narrative

472
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: language and they were trying to, like I don't know,

473
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: they were really putting an effort to kind of gussie

474
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Speaker 3: up boxing. And you can call that fraudulent in terms

475
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: of what boxing is and how HBO was trying to

476
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: present it, and that there was an asymmetry there. Fine,

477
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 3: but Triller's not even trying like they're not trying to

478
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 3: promote boxing in any kind of way that makes boxing

479
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: look good. In fact, they're trying to do the opposite.

480
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: If you're a boxing fan, you should reflect on who

481
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 3: do you want to give your money to to make

482
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: boxing look good or bad? And some people might say,

483
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: I don't like Jake Paul, I don't want to give

484
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Speaker 3: showtime money.

485
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Speaker 1: Make that call.

486
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: As a consumer, you know, you can do what you want,

487
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: but you should reflect on the fact that Triller is

488
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 3: absolutely going in the other direction here in terms of

489
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 3: trying to make boxing bigger than it.

490
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Speaker 2: Why were you an I it is? Why were you

491
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: and I so negative at the Jake Paul Askrin card

492
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: and then not as negative when Jake moved to showtime.

493
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: I mean that Jake Paul askriccard had comedians on in

494
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 2: the booth making fun of the fighters in the the

495
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: entire time, So it's the tone in which you present it.

496
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: They're encouraging their talking heads. In that case, it was

497
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 2: Ray Flores and our buddy Al Bernstein to you know,

498
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: smoke weed on the air and blow it in each

499
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 2: other's faces and dropped the F word in just to

500
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: force it in. So it was a completely different shit show.

501
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm assuming now Saturdays will be an equal level shit

502
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: show because you got fifty cent and Sean Porter. I

503
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: don't know is Ray or Todd gonna I don't even

504
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: I don't even think they know what's gonna happen. Okay,

505
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: so we'll just find out. We're gonna have to watch this,

506
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: or at least I will off to write a recap

507
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: about it. So it's gonna be interesting real quickly. We

508
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: know that Trailler wants to be in the Tyson business

509
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: because that's sort of the reason I think they felt

510
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: they had a long term model here. We know that

511
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: Trailer is suing Tyson to try to get that second

512
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: fight out of him. Ryan Kavanaugh. Trailler talked to Sky

513
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: Sports and said, we know Mike is trying to stage

514
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: a fight with Lennox Lewis. We have been told he

515
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: is scared to fight Evander. There has been back and

516
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: forth hooplah. There is a massive payday ready for Mike

517
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: to fight on Thanksgiving, a massive payday, one of his biggest,

518
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: but we can't seem to push it along now. I

519
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: have heard from a number of reliable sources that Mike

520
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: is too scared Evander would knock him out. End quote.

521
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: Hey Ryan Kavanaugh, just shut up, like stop, just stop.

522
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: Why did I even read that quote?

523
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: Just stop it. I don't know.

524
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: All right, Look to close on this topic, the odds

525
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: are close, but but Belleford has become the betting favorite.

526
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: And as you said, it's not like he looked like

527
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: a million bucks. He does have pro one pro boxing fight,

528
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: but it was back in two thousand and six.

529
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: I've seen this fight ends.

530
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Speaker 2: What does it look like, remember two minute rounds, which

531
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: could help holy Field at fifty eight? What's your pick?

532
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: I mean again, dude, when even when Bellator the Bill

533
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: Tour didn't do exactly this, But let's be honest, they

534
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 3: did some old man fighting themselves for a while and

535
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: then that kind of you know, went out of favor.

536
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: They can be unpredictable. I think the money is probably

537
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 3: on belfour. You know again, I lived through. It was

538
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: a very different situation, but it was a very instructive

539
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: lesson when Ray Mercer clabbered Tim Sylvia. You know, these

540
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: old boxers I think are a little bit more formidable

541
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: than their skeptics, including you, and I might imagine. So

542
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: you know, again, you got a reserve space for what

543
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: Holyfield is possible of doing. But I just have a

544
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 3: hard time, you know, when you sixteen years ago. Granted,

545
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: as bad as Larry Donald might have been as a boxer,

546
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: he's much better than Vitor belfor so take that for

547
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: what it's worth. But even then he just wasn't throwing.

548
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: I think you're probably gonna get a lot of that,

549
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: and so folks are gonna be like, why did why

550
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: the fuck did? I I mean that that's why Triller

551
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 3: puts on guys in the booth and musical acts because

552
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: do the fights for themselves ain't gonna sell shit. The

553
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: names might, but like the like the fight, the fight

554
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: is not gonna sell anything. Uh So you got to

555
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 3: dress it up and all this other accoutrements. So I'll

556
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: go bell for and say who the hell knows?

557
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Bellefort stops him. I mean you could say,

558
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: how do you say that? Holyfield's so fricking durable? But

559
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: I compared it to the Dell situation because like, once

560
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: it's gone, Luke, the reflexes, the chin, the all that.

561
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's freaking gone. How much longer could it be?

562
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Speaker 5: There?

563
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: For Olifield, you fought here's forty six. I mean he

564
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: hung out every inch of that incredible warrior spirit. This

565
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: might be asking too much. Even if v Tour is crude,

566
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: he's still close enough. And Luke, he's freaking twenty thirteen

567
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 2: level jacked. I'm sorry, you gotta go v Tour here.

568
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 2: I think he stops him, and I hope not. And

569
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: it's gonna be gross, all right, Luke. The Coleman event.

570
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Our second topic does have some level of intrigue. Here.

571
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: As Anderson Silva comes in at forty six, fresh off

572
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: the victory over Chavez Junior, he will be the betting

573
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: favorite against Tito or Teaz. I believe the catchwaight is

574
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety five pounds. Tell me if I'm

575
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: wrong here, Luke. Obviously, Tito fought almost all of his

576
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: career at two oh five. Tito's been talking honestly about

577
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: how hard this weight cut is, and he don't forget

578
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Tito is also forty six. What are your expectation levels

579
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: that this fight could save this sad event? Well, we

580
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: see action, What the hell are we going to see here?

581
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: I think it's up to Anderson Silva. I'll say this,

582
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: You know, Anderson Silva might pull off a bit of

583
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: a post UFC career heist here where he already beat

584
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Speaker 3: Chavez Junior. Granted a much smaller guy you know who's

585
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: coming up and wait, and Tito's a little bigger. But

586
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 3: we know we've seen the Anderson fight in MMA anyway,

587
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: and it's prime certainly.

588
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: Well above that.

589
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: But I'll say this, if there is anyone poised to

590
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: be able to make you know, chicken saladut a chicken

591
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: shit here with this stage of his career, it's probably

592
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva because you know, he did take some MMA damage,

593
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 3: but his defense is pretty good, the gloves are bigger.

594
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: He's smart, he's rangy. You know, he does understand striking

595
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: on a pretty decent level. I think even a boxing

596
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: cynic might say, you know, prime Anderson had some skills

597
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: worth taking. Seriously, Tito is completely out of his depth

598
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 3: here because obviously there's no wrestling whatsoever. He has to

599
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 3: just strike with Anderson. You know, I'll say this, I

600
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: think there's a real possibility that Anderson could just absolutely

601
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: mollywop him and turn the Chavez Junior win into the

602
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: Tito win into now even bigger opportunity for even bigger money.

603
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Speaker 1: And my understanding, yeah, he's that's what he's doing right.

604
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: This is an advertisement, yes, for him to get because

605
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: my understanding is behind the scenes he's asking for huge

606
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: paydays for subsequent fights. So if he's doing that, he

607
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: gets this big win. Look at the advertisement. I beat

608
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: a boxer, I beat a UFC champion. I'm still looking great.

609
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not?

610
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: Well, look, I think the storyline here is Zachly what

611
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: you said, it's an audition for bigger paydays for Silva,

612
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: who look the the facts look bad. He's one in

613
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: eight with a no contest in his final ten UFC fights.

614
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: That looks horrible, But to your point and take it well,

615
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 2: he didn't get beat up a lot. His defense was

616
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: still there. Why because in his prime he had other

617
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: worldly reaction timing and speed. So even though that's you know,

618
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: expired a bit, it's still at a very high level.

619
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: So regarding his future, because I think we both agree

620
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: he may mop the shit out of Fa Tito here.

621
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, Tito had better hands against Chuck in

622
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: the Trilogy flight that he ever had before. But come on, guys,

623
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: that that that was like a zombie version of Chuck Anderson.

624
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: Silva was on MMA Fighting's Portuguese podcast, which is called

625
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: the Tracico Franca Pod. Excuse me for butchering that. He

626
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: said it's a possibility when asked about GSP. George Saint

627
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: Pierre is a guy that deserves all respect, not only him,

628
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: but fighters Vitor Tito de la Jolla, they are legends.

629
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: I think me boxing GSP would be an interesting fight,

630
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: but we need the Almighty to stop being annoying and

631
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: let the guy move on nobody. Nothing coming from Dana

632
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: surprises me. Brother, I would like Dana to free GSP

633
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: from his contract. He's in shape to continue fighting. There's

634
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: no reason why you would keep him stuck just for ego.

635
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. He went to say blah blah blah on that, Luke.

636
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: I think although he's mentioning GSP, and I think at

637
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: this point, look, Jesse, he's not gonna fight in the

638
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: UFC anymore, so can we get him out of his

639
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: deal so we can make money and do what he

640
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: wants on the side, you know, regardless of what that is.

641
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: Would we all want to see GSP versus Silva in

642
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: either a boxing match or an MMA match with another promotion, absolutely, Luke.

643
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: I feel like if Triller was smarter, they would have

644
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: switched this boxing match to an MMA match at the

645
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: last minute. If this was Anderson Silva versus Tito, both

646
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: that forty six, both washed legends in a cage for

647
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: the comine, you could bump that up to be the

648
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: main event and tell Anderson to bust off. And I

649
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get buys. I think it's interesting here,

650
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: even though he's talking about GSP, and even though there's

651
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: certainly a debate that we had about Dana's you know,

652
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: taken over in this situation. I think this is a

653
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: trout for the Paul brothers, and I think there is

654
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: big business to be had. And I want to ask

655
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: you a critical question about this. Does Anderson have to

656
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: be careful to not look too good if he wipes

657
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: up on Tito? Is that gonna force Jake or Logan?

658
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Given Anderson's size comparative to the boxers that they have

659
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: boxed against who weren't actually boxers, is he too tough

660
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: of a test on paper? If he looks good for

661
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: either Paul brother.

662
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: Could be I mean, this is the problem with this

663
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: whole scenario is these guys realize very limited way in

664
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: which this could work. One is limited in the number

665
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: of fights that reasonably you're gonna be able to get

666
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: at the stage of your career for the amount of

667
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: money they're commanding. There's a few on the table, but

668
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: you got to you know, like we talked about with Vitor,

669
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to blow up his chances of getting

670
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: the De la Hoya fights. He has to thread that needle.

671
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 3: Same with the Anderson Silva right, and then the other

672
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: part is you don't want to look so feeble that

673
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: folks can't believe what you're capable of.

674
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: So you have to kind of walk this tightrope.

675
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: And it doesn't allow for like kind of like the

676
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: free It doesn't allow for what combat sports to be

677
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: what combat sports is. Yeah, I tend to think you

678
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: might get a little bit of that because a lot

679
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: of these Brazilian guys also, you know, especially the ones

680
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: who've been to the mountaintop, they like to, like, as

681
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 3: they say, you know, do a good show, right. They

682
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: like to put on something that the fans can remember

683
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: if you go in there and just completely fucking obliterate

684
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: the guy like you did Chris Leebin. It's memorable, But

685
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's good for what you're trying

686
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: to do now, which is to milk this gravy train

687
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: as long as you can. One thing though, that you're

688
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: not bringing up that I really feel like we should

689
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: bring up. Listen, I'm not making any accusations with because

690
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: I have information that I wanted to share with folks.

691
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: I don't have any information. I just have a few

692
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: questions and I think are worth putting out there. Dude,

693
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: Florida and Triller. We're not talking about a match made

694
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: in drug testing heaven here, and you guys know me,

695
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: I'm not the guy who's the drug testing guy, but

696
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: I want to just point out, you know, part of

697
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: this old man fighting thing is that you've got guys

698
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: like Vitor and including Anderson, and some other ones along

699
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: the way that have all had various at times anti

700
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: doping issues or infraction, some more serious than others, to

701
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: be clear, But you know, you want me to believe

702
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: that these things happen during their career and that they

703
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: get bounced from the UFC. Now they're in competitions where

704
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: their livelihood won't last very long and they need to

705
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: compete as best they can, and under a certain look

706
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: the part to a degree as well, they at least

707
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: probably on some cases experimented with it, use it for

708
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: a long time, and now there's nothing to be said

709
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: for it in this chapter of their career. That seems

710
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: insanely silly to me. I think obviously a big part

711
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: of old man fighting. Maybe it's happening for Anderson, maybe

712
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 3: it's not. I don't know, but in general, it's hard

713
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: for me to believe that drug use is not a

714
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: huge part of what is happening here and driving some

715
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: of this rejuvenation.

716
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Evander Holyfield has had more than a

717
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: little whisper throughout his pro boxing career as well. Luke

718
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: google Evan Fields for more information on that. Yeah, I

719
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: think we all assume and to some degree maybe even

720
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: hope they are, Luke, I mean that is that crazy

721
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: to say? Yeah? Is it truthful? It's gonna give us

722
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: some level of entertainment if they are in it, you know,

723
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: I mean.

724
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 3: Here's the reality, here's the reality. If there whoever it is,

725
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: this fight, the next one, whoever. If they are using

726
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: drugs and it results in making the product better, everybody

727
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: will love it. If they are using and it results

728
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: in making a fight that ends up being a disaster

729
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, the world will by come crashing down

730
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 3: on them. But as long as it goes well, I

731
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: think the fans will just look the other way, which

732
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: they always have.

733
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting that the Paul brother connection

734
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: are not lying. I think if Anderson can win but

735
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: not look like the Chris Leeban match, I'm wondering if

736
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: Jake or Logan would want to take the look the

737
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: key to their success. So far has also been bringing

738
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: in that MMA crowd. They would do that with Anderson

739
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Silver that's a neck. You know. Woodley is was not

740
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: overall beloved. He was respected, but not beloved. Anderson's a

741
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: folk hero. That would be a that's a big fight.

742
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: So it's interesting to see where it goes. Uh. Finally, how,

743
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: just real quick, how does GSP get out of this?

744
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: Because he got cost a boxing match against Oscar by

745
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: Dana the you know the ideas that Dana would probably

746
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: block Anderson from boxing him. The same when Anderson versus

747
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: GSP could give Triller actually some like good headlines if

748
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: they were going to box each other, be the MMA

749
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: super fight that never happened. Is there anything legally GSP

750
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: can do? What does he have to do? Wait out

751
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: the deal? I don't even understand.

752
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: The only argument that I understand that could feasibly work

753
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: would be taking UFC to court under the idea that

754
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: when it comes to boxing, the UFC is not allowed

755
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: to be his sole promoter. He is protected by what

756
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: the ALI Act would give. But no one's done that

757
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: at this point. Like you would have to, like you

758
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: just have to go through with a with a with

759
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: a lawsuit to see if they work. I mean that

760
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: would take years. By the time you got any kind

761
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: of resolution, you know, it would be a moot point anyway.

762
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: And be listen, I don't think gsps, the guy who's

763
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: like my last hurrah I want to be noted by

764
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: taking UFC to court. He's too gentlemanly for that. So

765
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: the answer is, unless Dana just changes his mind, nothing.

766
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: Dana, you're killing me, brother, Okay. And and if you

767
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: think that I'm a scumbag because I'm planning seeds in

768
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: these fighters mind by telling them they're underpaid as as

769
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: somebody eloquently treated at me. Cheyenne Bays already knew she was.

770
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: She was broke.

771
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: Look, we didn't have to tell her, all right. All right,

772
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: that's a uh yeah, all right. Topic number three this week, Luke,

773
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: uh maybe maybe the best featherweight in the world. We'll

774
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: find out. September twenty fifth, Brian t City or Tega.

775
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: We know he's got that UFC two to sixty six

776
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: fight against Alexander Volkanowski following the delay following their tough

777
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 2: coaching opposition. We also had him on Morning Combat yesterday.

778
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: You can check out that interview right now at YouTube

779
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: dot com slash Morning Combat. You remember Luke. I talked

780
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: to him in March and he was next level intense

781
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: and weird and fired the hell up. This time he

782
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: was much more chill and delayed and relaxed, and I

783
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: saw some of the commentars hated that. But he had

784
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: a few juicy things to say on a few different

785
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: juicy topics, including somebody he's targeting outside of the featherweight

786
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: division regardless of whether he beats Volkanowski in just a

787
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: little over two weeks. Let's hear that sound.

788
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: Now, this is a for sure defining moment fight in

789
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 4: my career for me to become the opportunity to become

790
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: a world champion. That's that's the number one thing of

791
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: what was on it. But it's bittersweet because now there's

792
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 4: one man left out there and said he beat the

793
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: champ right or he has a win over, and then

794
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 4: there's other people in other way divisions that I don't like.

795
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that I name that I wouldn't that I

796
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind fighting. I think that they know there's only

797
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: one guy who's talking about me, one seventy pounder. He's

798
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: already has a fight lined up, but still there's other

799
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: fights that people don't realize how big I can get.

800
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: I'm I'm five ten, five eleven, walk around one eighty five,

801
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: so one seventy is not far away from me. Wow.

802
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

803
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: So there's there's just little things that I think about

804
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: that people are afraid of.

805
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: I mean, for the uninitiated, who is this man you're

806
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: speaking of?

807
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: I choose not his name, his name relevant till he

808
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: actually signs a fight, because I already called that so

809
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: out this is a for sure defining.

810
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Uh Luke, First of all, the pregnant pauses that T

811
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: City puts out there.

812
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Dude, they're so tilting.

813
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: I interviewed him on my radio show one time, and

814
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: I constantly interrupted because I could not tell when he

815
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: was stopping.

816
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: Just so you know, the earlier reference I had that

817
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: question was basically me saying, look, you know, is this

818
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: Volkanofsky fight the defining fight of your career or is

819
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: the competitor inside of you thinking more about the Max rematch.

820
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 2: He admitted that, you know that Max rematch is really

821
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: what's driving him inside. But Luke, his talk about this

822
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: mysterious one seventy pounder. You and I did a little

823
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 2: research it appears to be dating back to March when

824
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: one Colby Covington came out and was all over or

825
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 2: Tega and ripping him. This surprised me that or take

826
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: it with sort of hijacking answer in which the question

827
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: was pitting Holloway versus you know, the Volkanovsky in his

828
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: division and say, uh no, there's other men out there

829
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: that I really want to see. Do you think Ortega

830
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: at five foot nine has although he said he's five

831
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: to eleven, there has the frame and size to compete

832
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: at walterweight something we never thought of. And would this

833
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: fight potentially interest you? And what about if Covington beats

834
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: Usmann and Ortega beats Volkanovsky? This just got a little little, uh,

835
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: a little more prestigious, Luke.

836
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, zero, less than zero interest in any kind

837
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: of welterweight action. I mean when so I referenced him

838
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 3: being on my show and on that show that he

839
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 3: called out Habib, not for any animosity reason or anything

840
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: like that, just because he's like, oh, I'd love to

841
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: test myself against him. And of course, you know, guard

842
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: player versus sort of takedown guy.

843
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: What would that all amount to?

844
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: But I tend to think that you know with the

845
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: way I've seen both guys very up close in person.

846
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: Koby Covington's much much bigger and he's gonna have great

847
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: submission defense and no zero interest in that.

848
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: All right.

849
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: Was interesting to see young t City, who's not so

850
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: thirty years old right in the midst of his prime.

851
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: Hope he can stay active and stay busy. Luke I

852
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: also act him. Speaking speaking of callouts, I also asked

853
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: him about a fellow City of Angels product one, Aj McKee,

854
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: who we remember. Luke after his victory over Pitpull, was

855
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: asked by many outlets, you know, what are your dream

856
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: fights if you could fight anybody regardless of political ties,

857
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: and Ortega was one of those names. Let's see what

858
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Old t City had to say about it. Somebody else

859
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: mentioned your name. And I don't say this in a

860
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: trash talking sense. I say this in a respect sense.

861
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Aj McKee, the fellow LA based fighter who who had

862
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: the breakthrough win for Bellatour defeating Pitpull. When he was

863
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: asked about dream fights for him, he mentioned your name.

864
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: How do you feeld that call out?

865
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: It feels I mean, he's a chant in Bellatore, which

866
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: is good. I've met him. You know we rolled one time,

867
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: and I think he got I don't know if it's

868
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: bitterness or he says I have one over on him.

869
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 4: As in terms of the submission, I don't. I don't

870
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: consider that a winning anyway. Uh I just there was

871
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: just different levels start grappling at the time. I don't

872
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: go walking around saying now, I submitted this guy. Never once,

873
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: never will I even on camera.

874
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: That's to me.

875
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: It's I even shaid, hey, Champ, like listen. It was

876
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: more along saline, like you did good, but I did this,

877
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 4: and you might want to work on this a little bit,

878
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 4: just because it's a threat. And I showed you twice

879
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 4: that it's a threat, and but you have great jiu jitsu.

880
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: I was more in a coaching helping aspect. Never once

881
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: do I go and walk around and say this. I

882
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 4: seen him at fights, how we shook his hand. I said, hey, bro,

883
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: we should train together. I talked to his dad and say, hey, man,

884
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: you guys will be good work together. It's always respected.

885
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: I would have no argument with saying it's a dream fight.

886
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 4: People have dream fights all the time. I'm a fighter.

887
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm more than willing to step up and fight anyone.

888
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: Luke he was cut off a little earlier.

889
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: There.

890
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: He went on to say he doesn't believe, however, that

891
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: Aj McKee will ever be commercially viable enough for that

892
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: dream fight to ever make sense. So he basically said, hey, Aj,

893
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: you want to fight me, that's your dream, come to

894
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: the UFC, and why would you give him the money

895
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: you are expected to make in Bellator Luke people rightfully,

896
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: so in the comments took a little umbradge with a

897
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: guy saying I'll never kiss and tell essentially what goes

898
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 2: on in sparring or the bedroom. But oh, by the way,

899
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: I may have tapped that ass twice. I mean, do

900
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: you you respect or take a being like I don't

901
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: want to tell you what happened, but you know twice

902
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: I did submit him.

903
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the reality though, like when was it?

904
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 3: And and also you know, if you've never trained like dude,

905
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: I mean, Javier Mendez told me once that Habib's never

906
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: been tapped, which you know, I'm not accusing Havi Air

907
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: of lying I've never been there, but I'm extremely skeptical

908
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: of that on some level only because dude, like training

909
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: is like when you go to train, sometimes it can

910
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: be about Okay, I want to make sure that I

911
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: win this round for whatever reason, especially if you're in

912
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: a fight camp and you're heading into a big contest.

913
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: But like a lot of training is, it's about losing,

914
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: right if you're of jiu jitsu, that's what what's what

915
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: Ron Taker is talking about. I want to work on

916
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: my deep half game. Do when you start working deep half,

917
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 3: it's you're not gonna have a good deep half. Guys

918
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: are gonna they're gonna flatten you. They're gonna you're not

919
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: gonna be able to lift them, You're not gonna be

920
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: able to get any kind of reverse or sweep, and

921
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna lose, and you know they're gonna pass your guard. Like,

922
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: it takes time to learn these things, and some will

923
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: learn it faster than others. But like the idea of

924
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: getting tapped is almost completely inconsequential. It's not that it

925
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: doesn't matter at all, but it's just it's it's a

926
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: necessary part of growth. And you hear what he said,

927
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: he said our jiu jitsu was in two different levels

928
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: at that time. I'm sure Ortega is still.

929
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: Better on the ground.

930
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: To be candid with you, I'm sure Ortega is better

931
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: than almost any one forty five are on the ground,

932
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 3: but in an MM fight, ultimately that may not matter

933
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. So like, yeah, he kind of

934
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: kiss and told, but he also sort of couched it

935
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: at the right level, which is like, you know, at

936
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: the time or whatever it was, we weren't on the

937
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: same level. He's probably right. And also for fans who

938
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: were watching dude training is it's about winning, it's also

939
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: about losing. For growth, you need both to get better.

940
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: It's not one or the other.

941
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: Uh luke, just gun to your head. Who would you

942
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: favor if they fought today on even terms at Featherwick.

943
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: On the feet, McKee on the ground. Ortega probably slight

944
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: lean Ortega because I think he's fought better competition. And

945
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: here's the thing about Ortega. Ortega gets like you go

946
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: back to like the Guida fight or even like the

947
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: the Brazilian kid. He fought Nasa Waikana, like those guys

948
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: were whipping his ass for a long time, and then

949
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 3: he just has this unbelievable ability to pull something out late.

950
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: You know, He's formidable in that way truly, And even

951
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: even in the Holloway.

952
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: Fight, doe.

953
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 3: They had to save him from himself basically, so like

954
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: he's tough as shit and he's very capable late on

955
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: the ground, he's a he's a he's a dynamic force.

956
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: But aj McKee is you know, he's a motherfucker too man.

957
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: So you know what, like anybody else, this is what

958
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: aj McKee has done. He has elevated himself to the

959
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: point where you're asking these questions what would happen if

960
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: they fought? That tells you he is now ascended to

961
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: a place that is very special.

962
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Luke will have plenty of time to talk on all

963
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: things or Taga Volkanovsky, but a close I wanted to

964
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: ask you this. I'm sure you've seen you know Espnic

965
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: I think last month had had a double h interview

966
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: there with Ortega and Volkanovsky, and it devolved into like

967
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: surprisingly a trash talk, you know, accusation, you're a you're

968
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: a point fighter, you're you know, you're ugly, you're lame,

969
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: you have no IQ. I mean, there was a lot

970
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: of little jabs. Do you think or Tega? You know,

971
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: I know you didn't watch the Tough season, but and

972
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: I know you probably didn't watch this full interview in

973
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: which he talked a lot more seemingly about Holloway and

974
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: uh and Covington than he did against the Volkanovsi, do

975
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: you think he's looking past? Do you think he's given

976
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: enough attention to the champion from the things you've seen that?

977
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: That was my one kind of so have you ever

978
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: seen your dog just kind of look at you this way? Moment?

979
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: That was the one thing I was like, there was

980
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: a lot of animus and as you put attention paid

981
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: toward these things that had I mean the Covington fight, Like,

982
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: do you think Dana's gonna make that?

983
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I'm not Dana White.

984
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: I don't speak for him, but I've sort of seen

985
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: the decisions he's made for the better part of fifteen years.

986
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: They don't look like that very often, do they. So

987
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: that's a weird one. And then the bicky thing you

988
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: brought it up?

989
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: He didn't.

990
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: But okay, So the answers that he gave, I don't know.

991
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: I tend to think, Look, is he fully prepared for Bolkovsky?

992
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: I do think so. And either way you better be,

993
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: because I guarantee Volkanovsky has crossed every fucking T and

994
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: dotted every possible. I but a guy like Ortega, you know,

995
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: he says that the Kido's Reformation was getting rid of

996
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: that rock star lifestyle, and I believe that. At the

997
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 3: same time though, like do we think that those rock

998
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: star pressures all just went away? People want more from

999
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 3: Brian Ortega than they want from Volkanovsky.

1000
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: It's just true. Hollywood wants more from him.

1001
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: Advertisers want more from him, Sponsors want more from him,

1002
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: and that's a hard thing to just come. It's easier,

1003
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: I think, for him to tune out that part of

1004
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: the world than it is for Volkanovski. If for no

1005
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: other reason, then the bandwidth is just much less for

1006
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: Volkanofsky than it's for Ortega. So I do think he's focused,

1007
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 3: But I do also think, dude, he's got a lot

1008
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: more competing interests. That's harder for him to manage relative

1009
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 3: to the champion.

1010
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, her name is Cortes, one of those competing interests.

1011
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: Looking U he seems to me managing that well on

1012
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: the old ig. But if you're this is a great

1013
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: fight and you have to look no further than the

1014
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: drafts Kings book, look at the odds here, Luke, as

1015
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: we speak, right now a little more than two weeks

1016
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: out of two sixty six plus one forty or take

1017
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: a you're underdog minus one sixty Volkanowski. I cannot wait

1018
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: for this fight. I did ask Ortega. We've seen such

1019
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: extremes lately, the brawler against Holloway and the technician against

1020
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: Korean zombie. You know which version are we gonna see?

1021
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: He of course gave the you gotta tune in to

1022
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: watch and find out. But I am looking to see, Luke.

1023
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: Is he gonna combine those two? Is he gonna try

1024
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: to play chess against the chess master, or is he

1025
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: gonna try to, you know, use his length and walk

1026
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: him down. It's gonna be a very good fight. I'm

1027
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little giggly and pumped up, Luke just

1028
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: thinking about it.

1029
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: And again, even if even if Volkanowski wins the first

1030
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: four rounds, it's not like he put a beating on Max, right,

1031
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: so like by round five was Max beaten up? Now

1032
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: Max is not Ortega. But to the point I've been

1033
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 3: raising earlier, if Volkanovsky is let's say, judicious with his

1034
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: striking we already know, or Tega is game late, that

1035
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: one could be interesting that one's gonna be one. You

1036
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: have to watch full entirety, full attention. You can't take

1037
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: any breaks, Luke.

1038
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: You know, to be this job, to be an interviewer,

1039
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: an investigative journalist on this level, you know you do

1040
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: have to ask the hard questions. And I saw that

1041
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: little I don't know, hesitation, the little twinkle of your eye.

1042
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: That's wondering, BC. Did you do it? Did you go

1043
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: back to the freaking well you were unsuccessful in March

1044
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: when you asked, you know, Brian for the for the

1045
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: details about his relationship with halle Berry. Did you try

1046
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: once more? Luke, you know it's given the nature of

1047
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: my job, You're damn right. I did. Let's see what

1048
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: Otega had to say. Speaking of fantasy matchmaking, there's a

1049
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: lot of people that were hoping that you and halle

1050
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: Berry had sealed the deal. I'm sorry to say it

1051
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: out loud. Okay, those people can can can can you

1052
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: know they can? They can?

1053
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: They can?

1054
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: It's all fantasy, all right, thank you very much. Sliding

1055
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: out of that awkwardness to close here, We can't wait

1056
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 2: for this fight. UFC two sixty six, September twenty fifth,

1057
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. Luke, you know, like Teddy KGB with the oreos.

1058
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: You saw the echo echo, you saw you saw the

1059
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: you saw the twinkle of his smile there, Luke, I

1060
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: got two words for you. He smashed brother. Yeah yeah right,

1061
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean you know wha yeah right, yeah, yeah, definitely,

1062
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean you know right wow, wow, all right? Whoa yep, Okay,

1063
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: let me just uh, let's just reset here, Luke, Yeah, Bullworth,

1064
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: heck of a film. Yep, all right, Luke. Topic four

1065
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: this week Tyson Fury, the w b C and lineal

1066
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion of course October ninth, we hope hetted into

1067
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: that trilogy about against uh Deontay Wilder, which hopefully it

1068
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 2: can set the one up to face the winner of

1069
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua versus Alexander Usick later this month to crown

1070
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: a full undisputed, first time ever four belt heavyweight champion

1071
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: later next year. Tyson Fury and Deontay both hit the

1072
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: media circuits this week. Luke to begin the banging of

1073
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: the drum for this fight, and Fury revealed a five

1074
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 2: fight hit list which begins October ninth against Deontay Wilder

1075
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 2: and ends in late twenty twenty two. If we can

1076
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: throw this up on a full screen, we can look

1077
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: at it a little bit closer. Fury's goal over the

1078
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: next year plus is to fight five times Wilder in

1079
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: a trilogy Dillian White, which would be a heck of

1080
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: a battle, a two fight series with Anthony Joshua, provided,

1081
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: of course, he beats Usick and is still the three

1082
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: belt champion, and then he wants to close with what

1083
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: I think is a little bit of a misguided trilogy.

1084
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: He already beat Derek Chasour twice, but he wants to

1085
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: go a third time with del Boy Luke, is it possible?

1086
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 2: Do you even envision a possible fear forget about winning

1087
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: these fights, that Fury would go through five fights over

1088
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: the next Uh, I don't know, fifteen months? No, do

1089
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: you think of that plan?

1090
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: No? I don't buy that. Listen. I admire the ambition.

1091
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: I think Tyson Fury is frankly as a as a

1092
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 3: self promoter and a boxer. You know, he's had some

1093
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: duds as a boxer in terms of excitement, but in general,

1094
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, this is a guy worthy of high praise

1095
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: when it comes to his craft and the profession, both

1096
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: as a promoter and as a boxer.

1097
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: But that dude, when like.

1098
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: I always love this, like here are my plans for

1099
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 3: the for boxing, It's like have you heard about boxing's

1100
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: plans for you? Because that's much more important, you know

1101
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, you know, getting out there and

1102
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 3: saying this is my I think it's fine to have

1103
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: these lists and these goals, which is or one like you,

1104
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I could do without, but what oh you

1105
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 3: know even then, you know, if he's out there competing,

1106
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: it's better than to be not competing. But dude, that

1107
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 3: is you could do that if you were like Israel

1108
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: Ata Sonia and it was UFC where you know they

1109
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: control the matchmaking and they have such force and that

1110
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: you know, you're trying to make a name. Remember he

1111
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 3: was competing like every three months for two years. It

1112
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: was something insane that he was getting out there. It

1113
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 3: can be done. It cannot be done in boxing like

1114
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: that where this ease of putting events together and the

1115
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 3: timeline works so well. He might get three of those

1116
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: in and even that's ambitious.

1117
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: It is right and it is and you know, look,

1118
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: it's been a long time since he's had issues, so

1119
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm not certainly trying to wish anything on him. I

1120
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: think also it's like him staying active helps him, helps

1121
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 2: him stay in shape, help him to stay mentally there.

1122
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: But you know, I think with Tyson for you just

1123
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: never know Luke, we never thought after he upset Clitch

1124
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: Goo in twenty fifteen that he would take the next

1125
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: four years off basically, and you know, of course go

1126
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: through so many personal demons and all that, and the

1127
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: depression and the retirement and come back. I would love,

1128
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: especially given his age and that right now Luke in

1129
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: his prime. I think that even though he's got to

1130
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: prove it in the ring, mean, he's got to be

1131
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: wilder and regardless of his other hopes and dreams, you

1132
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: gotta fight Joshua at least once. And I like the

1133
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: idea that they both and everyone involved as saying when

1134
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: they do, it's going to be a two fight series, which,

1135
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: let's be honest, it should be. You know, it should be.

1136
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: Let's get let's make some legendary battles and rivalries out

1137
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: of our potentially legendary fighters. But I think eye tests wise,

1138
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: we all agree he's the best in show of this era.

1139
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: There has never been you know, say what you will

1140
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: about this era if you think it holds up to

1141
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: anywhere even close to the seventies and the nineties, the

1142
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: two prime eras in heavyweight history. There have been all

1143
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: time great heavyweights going back one hundred years, but the

1144
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies and the nineteen nineties were the deepest, most electric,

1145
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: most incredible heavyweight eras. I don't think this generation compares

1146
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: ability wise to those guys, because boxing, specifically heavyweight boxing

1147
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: is literally, Luke, the only Benjamin Button sport where it's

1148
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: like ages in reverse. You know, in basketball, George Miken

1149
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: couldn't last ten seconds on the floor with Lakers version

1150
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: of Shaquille O'Neal Right, those guys back then in the

1151
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 2: fifties just to smoke cigarettes at halftime and had you know,

1152
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 2: part time jobs selling furniture. Right, heavyweight boxing is the

1153
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: only thing where you regress and go in the other direction,

1154
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: and people like while they're picking up the sport, you know,

1155
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: at age nineteen, rather than growing up at a boxing gym.

1156
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 2: But Fury appears to be the best in show, and Luke,

1157
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: let's say he did roll out this schedule, and let's

1158
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: say he won them all, which betting odds wise, he

1159
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: will be favored against every single one of those guys

1160
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 2: barring you know, a loss in between or some kind

1161
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 2: of great deterioration, Luke, I got news for you. If

1162
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: Fury runs the table of who's left in this heavyweight

1163
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: division and then retires, which again with his unpredictability for

1164
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: good and bad reasons in his personal life, you just

1165
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: never know when he's going to be done. I really

1166
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: think he has a chance to go down as one

1167
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: of the one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.

1168
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: Because you can only fight who's in your era. It's

1169
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: the defense against any criticism thrown at Vladimir Klitschko. You

1170
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: can't criticize Klitchko not being willing to face everybody. You

1171
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: can criticize his boring style at time, sure, but Klitschko

1172
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: was in a dead, dormant era. He never got to

1173
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: fight Lenox Lewis. His brother did, but he never did.

1174
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: You know, you can only fight who's in your era.

1175
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: At least Fury has had guys with the pulse in

1176
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: his era, and if he beats them all, Luke, given

1177
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: that he's six foot nine, and given that in the

1178
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: mythical matchup matching him against anyone in history, you want

1179
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: to match five 'ot ten Rocky Marciano, who weighed like

1180
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: one hundred ninety pounds against Lennox Lewis. Good luck, right,

1181
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: But if you want to match in your head Tyson

1182
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: Fury against anyone six foot nine with that speed and elusiveness, Luke,

1183
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: I think he has a chance to end up in

1184
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 2: that upper core of the four or five six greatest heavyweights.

1185
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: And I know that's blasphemy to some, but he's on

1186
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: his way.

1187
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: Bro.

1188
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 2: This is a special athlete that we're seeing here.

1189
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: I agree.

1190
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: I I the debate about all time heavyweights is beyond

1191
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: my mind a level of boxing area edition right now,

1192
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I can meaningfully weigh in on that.

1193
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: And I do think a prime Lennox Lewis would be

1194
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 3: an interesting test for him that that would be kind

1195
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: of fun because he's the.

1196
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: First super he's the first of that super heavyweight era.

1197
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Six ' five Jack can box and.

1198
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: Punch right exactly he was, he was in many ways

1199
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: in his prime, the total package, So that would be

1200
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: kind of fun. But you're right, like, there's a lot

1201
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: of other names that get exalted for good reasons for

1202
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: what they did in their era. Where you're look at

1203
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: him now, you're like, dude, I don't know what that

1204
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: would even mean to fight a guy like Tyson Fury

1205
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: in this stage, because Ison Fury is not just tall,

1206
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: like you mentioned it, Dude, He's got great boxing skill

1207
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 3: he has.

1208
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: He's a very very very.

1209
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: Skilled tactician, and I think that would carry over across

1210
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: genres or actually been not genres, I should say eras.

1211
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: But the one thing I wanted to point obviously is,

1212
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I gotta say I looked at

1213
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: his schedule. I didn't see Usik on there, and I

1214
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: know he is. You know, Joshua was the big one

1215
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: that everyone wants to see.

1216
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: I got it. I'll tell you.

1217
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 3: I favored Joshua would have win that one. But the

1218
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: idea that we're just casting Usik to the side like

1219
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: this is a foregone conclusion that Joshua was going to win,

1220
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: I have to tell you I find that very much premature.

1221
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: Especially the trouble Joshua had with Andy Ruiz, and even

1222
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: in winning the rematch against fat Ruiz Luke, he was

1223
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: very skittish and almost, you know, like scared almost. So

1224
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that Usik's alive out in there,

1225
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: and I think obviously anyone who disagrees with my fury take.

1226
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: The thing against Fury is his inactivity. He does have

1227
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: some soft fights when he made comebacks. I mean, you

1228
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: know gott he Sepher Safuri surfing Safari, good God, Luke.

1229
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: To close on this topic, we all know Deontay Wilder,

1230
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: who of course hasn't fought since the second Fury fight,

1231
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: has been busy, you know, getting hungry, stay at Hungary

1232
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: in the gym with new trainer Malik Scott, his former opponent,

1233
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: and Luke. Some new video has gone out that I

1234
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: would love your reaction to. You know, Wilder's the one

1235
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: of the biggest punchers of all time. But Luke, we

1236
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: can barely get this guy to commit to a jab.

1237
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: He's right hand or almost nothing. Check out this video

1238
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: of him working the body with Malik Scott.

1239
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 5: Let me say, why are you showing me.

1240
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Videos of Uncle Pepe on dates in Colombia?

1241
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, Wow, BC.

1242
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: Why are you showing me videos of you eating pad

1243
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: tie with medium spices in Cleveland?

1244
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: Luke, like kobeb against gay Chee, being one leg kick

1245
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: against away from from possible trouble. I I was close

1246
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: that spice. What was intense the second time. Wow, Luke,

1247
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: I've seen equally polarizing reactions to this video. How does

1248
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: this make you feel in terms of your expectation for

1249
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: the trilogy? Concerning I've never seen Deontay throw a body

1250
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: punch before, and that was pretty interesting.

1251
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: I'll say this for Deontay, does he not seem much

1252
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 3: more energized for this third fight than Tyson Fury seems?

1253
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, and listen, we all saw the second fight.

1254
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: I mean, Fury just put a fucking beating on him.

1255
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: You know, what do you want to say? Like that

1256
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 3: was just completely one sided. So I understand the confidence

1257
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: and frankly, the the resolve that Wilder has, even if

1258
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: we can say it's somewhat delusional, because all fighters to

1259
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: an extent are a little bit delusional, right, That's what

1260
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: makes them great. But what I would say is when

1261
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: you look at this, like, first of all, half the

1262
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: ones he threw there where you know he was falling over, Yeah,

1263
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 3: see that way he lost his footing in the process,

1264
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 3: and like he had it by the way, we never

1265
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: talked about it. He put up another bench press video

1266
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 3: where he added forty pounds to the bench press, still

1267
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 3: had gloves, still his his his spoder still had more

1268
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: hands on the bar than the master.

1269
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Whose technique is better Brendan Shopper Deonte Wilder.

1270
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: Be honest, it's a body equivalent, but Brendan's stronger. Brendan

1271
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: can bench almost one hundred pounds more than that, so

1272
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: he's stronger. But what I would say is, like you

1273
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: look at when he hits the bench, his ass comes

1274
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: way off where his It's like it's so much leg drive.

1275
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, is this a bench press or a

1276
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 3: squat that you're doing this with? But you know what,

1277
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 3: you can mock him for falling over or the bench

1278
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: press or whatever. Dude, he seems like. I'll tell you what,

1279
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: my interest level in the third five before was not

1280
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: very much because I thought Tyson was just gonna go

1281
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: on there and beat him. And to be clear, you see,

1282
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm picking Fury to win. I'm not in any way changing.

1283
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: That Fury is the much better boxer.

1284
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: But I gotta say my interest level because of everything

1285
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 3: that went down last time and then the Arbor arbitration,

1286
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 3: and now you've got you know, Wilder seems a little

1287
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: bit like a madman out there right, Like I kind

1288
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: of like it a little.

1289
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: Bit he's got to save his career to some degree

1290
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: with this in terms of reputation, and Luke, I got

1291
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: no dog in this fight from the standpoint with like,

1292
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, this is not a showtime fight. I'm not

1293
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: here to try to sell it to you necessarily, but

1294
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, this third fight is gonna be

1295
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: a war. Tyson. Fury has nothing to gain by this fight.

1296
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: It's a contractual obligation. He should be fighting Joshua right

1297
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: now for all four titles and making history. So Fury

1298
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: in the past has played up or down to the

1299
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: level of his competition or the level of the prestige

1300
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: of a fight. And it's not that this fight lacks

1301
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: in prestige, it just kind of lacks in terms for

1302
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Fury in terms of like I don't need this. You know,

1303
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: I've already shown you kind of twice to be honest,

1304
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: that he's better than Wilder. So Wilder is a live

1305
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: out and I think that at the very least we've

1306
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: seen video wise that he's doing the right things. Luke,

1307
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: I want to see a Deontay Wilder, as I've said

1308
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: from the second that second fight ended, I want to

1309
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: see a one who's not waiting back, looking to counter

1310
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: who is bringing the fight to Fury and is willing

1311
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 2: to get knocked out to try to deliver the bang.

1312
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: If that happens, this is going to be old school

1313
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: heavyweight front seat, edge of your seat theater, and I

1314
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: can't freaking wait. Fury has taken his dad's advice and

1315
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: has put on a lot of weight. He's going to

1316
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: be over three hundred bills for this. You've seen Wilder

1317
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: in the weight room adding a bigger frame. This could

1318
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: be a surprise special bout, Luke. It is not out

1319
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: of the question that Wilder flips this division upside down. Yes,

1320
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: he almost fell over going to the body right there.

1321
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: He's as raw as any. He has raw as a YouTuber.

1322
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: But that guy has and you hate to use this word,

1323
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: but in this case it might be true murderous punching power, Luke.

1324
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: He does.

1325
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: He has absolutely crippling. He has historic punching power. I

1326
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: mean that's really what his guy's got, historic punching power.

1327
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: Not so much in the same way we talked about

1328
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: him before, and not like Julian Jackson were like everything

1329
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,479
Speaker 3: that lands is like what the fuck was that? But yeah,

1330
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: that's straight right, he's just got an absolute behemous amount

1331
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: of power behind it, dude. And here's the other part, Like,

1332
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: even if Fury wins again, but Wilder goes out there

1333
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: and makes a strong account of himself, there's all kinds

1334
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: of ways this could be great, you know what I mean, Like,

1335
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: there's all kinds Again, it's just hard to pick Wilder

1336
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: over Tyson Fury. But the fight is what like a

1337
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: month await is not nearly as much interesting as what

1338
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 3: I thought there would be. And Wilder is just going

1339
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 3: out there and he's trying to do alchemy. He's trying

1340
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: to turn nickel into gold and I don't think he can,

1341
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 3: but God bless him. He's a mad scientist out there,

1342
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: and I'm having a little bit of fun watching it all.

1343
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I absolutely this will actually be a surprisingly very

1344
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: fun build. We'll see what happens. October ninth, Luke our

1345
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: final top of the week quick hitters, so we want

1346
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: quick reactions to this. Alex Padda, the former two division

1347
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: Glory kickboxing champion, most well known, of course for knocking

1348
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 2: out current middleway champions in the UFC Israel Outisgnia, will

1349
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: make his UFC debut at Get this two sixty eight

1350
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: at M. According to MMA Junkie, it'll come against Andreas

1351
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: Mihalitas at middleweight. Luke, is this the right debut for

1352
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: the transitioning kickboxer.

1353
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: I think it is.

1354
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: I did some tape study on I think Mihalitis or

1355
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: mitchelle Adis or Harry pronounced his name.

1356
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: He's Greek. I apologize, I don't. I can't. By the way,

1357
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: when I went to.

1358
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: I've been to Greece, and when I went there, you know,

1359
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 3: usually like after a week you can hear words and

1360
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 3: people sentences, You're like, oh, I sort of get an

1361
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: idea what to I couldn't pick out a single word

1362
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: ever the entire time. Greek is a funny ass language. Okay,

1363
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: neither here nor there. The guy has had, you know,

1364
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: an okay run to begin this UFC start. He has

1365
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: a loss against Bulkowskis You're a Lithuanian brotherhood, and then

1366
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: he beat KB Bullar. But Buller, I don't think he's

1367
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: even on the UFC roster anymore. And it was kind

1368
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 3: of a decision. Tends to prefer striking over the ground game. Yeah,

1369
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: I think for the first opponent for your entry into

1370
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 3: the UFC with everything he's still dealing with and getting

1371
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: ready and and and he's not MMA debut, but you know,

1372
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 3: you kind of have to get right with the camp.

1373
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: It takes a few of those under your belt before

1374
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: you're really fully transitioned over. I think it's a great

1375
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 3: first start. It's a beatable opponent, but it's a credential

1376
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 3: opponent just the same. Yeah, it's a good call. Can't

1377
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: wait to see it.

1378
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: The Brazilian is thirty four years old. As you mentioned,

1379
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 2: he does have a few MMA fights. He's three and

1380
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 2: one overall, most recently November of twenty twenty, a first

1381
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: round knockout over Thomas Powell under the LFA banner. Look,

1382
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 2: the fact that they're putting this at MSG just sprinkles

1383
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: on top of what is a can't freakin' miss card. Hey,

1384
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: Canelo move yourself off that date already, bro, because this

1385
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: is this is big theater going down. Hopefully your boys

1386
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: at MK will be front row and center. Luke number

1387
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 2: two here, Scott Coker, Bellatour, President, CEO, whatever you want

1388
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: to call him, confirmed it last night on Twitter. Former

1389
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: Bellatour and current Risen bantamweight champion kyog Horror Gucci, of course,

1390
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: a former UFC title challenger, is not only a free agent,

1391
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 2: he has signed up for a return to Bellatour, ESPN's

1392
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: Mark Ray Mundy further confirming that he will retain the

1393
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: Risen championship, leaving open the door for more of those

1394
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: Bellatoor Risen crossovers in Japan. But Luke, as it pertains

1395
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: to Bellator and the constant rumors that a Grand Prix

1396
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: could be coming to one thirty five, is Bellatore's bantam

1397
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: white division the best division in their promotion at the.

1398
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: Moment, It's pretty close. First of all, you could make

1399
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 3: a case I'm not going to the mat for this.

1400
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 3: But with signing Hora Gucci bare minimum, he enters into

1401
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 3: the conversation of who's the best fighter on the Bellatour roster,

1402
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 3: and you can pick him or not. There's a healthy

1403
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: debate to be had there. But he's on that list

1404
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: first of all, number one. That's how good of a

1405
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 3: signing this is. But if you look at the other

1406
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: Bellatour bansam weights, I mean, listen to who they've got.

1407
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: First of all, Sergio Pettis the best version of Sergio

1408
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: Pettis as your existing champion You've got one Archiletta, Jaylon Bates,

1409
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 3: who folks may not know but is a very very

1410
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: interesting up and coming prospect. Banger and Henry Corralis, Darrin

1411
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 3: call Wells obviously in this division, James gallaher Pachi Mix,

1412
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 3: Leandro Ego, Josh Hill, Brett Johnson I think is gonna

1413
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: be in the upcoming card anyway.

1414
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: Mega Again, I'm.

1415
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 2: Getting SATs who's on fire at the moment.

1416
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: I haven't even got to him yet. You have Eric Perez, Goito,

1417
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: Jared Scoggins and as you mentioned, Raffie on Statts. Dude,

1418
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: this is already.

1419
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: Turning out to be.

1420
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 3: And by the way, look at the names. They're not

1421
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: just good. Most of them are quite young. There's a

1422
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 3: couple of exceptions here or there, but in general, it's

1423
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 3: not just a great division, it's a division that is

1424
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 3: poised to be great for a long time. Putting Hora

1425
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: Gucci back in, I'll say this, I don't know what

1426
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: he does for American audiences in terms of ratings, and

1427
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 3: we should be honest about that. But if you're Bellator,

1428
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: why would you sign him one? It makes one of

1429
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 3: your marquee divisions even better. Number two gives you an

1430
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 3: entry into overseas markets. Right, That's that's pretty great. And three, dude,

1431
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 3: you need guys if you're Bellatore, that validate the roster.

1432
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: Having kill Gi Hora Gucci on your roster is about

1433
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 3: as great a validation as it gets in terms of

1434
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 3: free agents.

1435
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, when we talk about the

1436
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: that division under the beltour banner, I don't think you know,

1437
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: I think UFCS is still stronger because UFC's had like

1438
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: a historic moment of bell or of bantamway depth. But

1439
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: when we talk about whether Coker is gonna do an

1440
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: eight man Grand Prix or even a sixteen man, don't

1441
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: forget about freaking pitbull Patricio Freeddi, who has said I

1442
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: can move down to one thirty five. I want to

1443
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 2: be a three division champion. Imagine if we started that

1444
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: tournament put him in there. You know, Caldwell wants another

1445
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: shot at him. During Coldwell lost both the Risen title

1446
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: fight and the Bellatoor title fight to Horror guccin. If

1447
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: you're wondering about, you know, is Horror Gucci really that good?

1448
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 2: Thirty years old? Luke, he's twenty nine and three. He

1449
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 2: went nine to one under the Risen banner, avenging his

1450
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 2: only loss to Kayasta Kura by first draw knockout to

1451
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: take back the title, and Luke he won his only

1452
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: bandamweight well, I mean, his only Bellatour fight against Caldwell,

1453
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: and he was seven and one under the UFC banner,

1454
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: losing only on a last second submission to Demetrius Johnson,

1455
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: one of the greatest of all time. That's as strong

1456
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: and decorated a resume as you'll find globally in this game.

1457
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's legit right there.

1458
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: And however good he was against Demetrius, and you know,

1459
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 3: Demetrius was better, that's okay to say. But however good

1460
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 3: he was, he's infinitely better now. Like honestly, if Hora

1461
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: Gucci and Johnson fought, I'm not sure that I wouldn't

1462
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 3: pick hor Gucci to win.

1463
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: I think he's that much improved.

1464
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 3: So again, you know, and Johnson's a natural one and

1465
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: twenty five or I understand, but I'm just pointing out

1466
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 3: Horror Gucci was to an extent too, But you get

1467
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 3: the idea, Like Horr Gucci is such a great signing

1468
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 3: for Belatore. I don't think he's gonna blow up their ratings.

1469
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: I don't think he does that for him, but he

1470
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: solves a lot of other problems.

1471
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was on the American Top Team podcast

1472
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 2: this week and said he wants Sergio Pettis. So whether

1473
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: we get that fighter, whether we get the tournament, let's

1474
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 2: do this thing. Also, Luke, we mentioned Gable Stevenson shows

1475
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: WWE above any potential MMA offers. A little more details

1476
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 2: came out as WWE announced the deal. Luke, it'll be

1477
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: one of those nil you know, imaging and licensing deals

1478
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: with ww which, here's the key point, will allow Gable

1479
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: Stevenson to stay in college at the University of Minnesota

1480
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: defend his NCAA championship in his senior year. WWE even

1481
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: going to these two levels, one signing his brother and

1482
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: bringing him into the performance center, and two bringing a

1483
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 2: gym and camp and ring to Minnesota so that Gable

1484
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: can train and learn the WW way while still in college.

1485
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: Why does any of that matter toward MMA, Because, Luke,

1486
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: it's obvious that WWE has sweetened the deal to the

1487
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: level that any MMA promotion was unwilling to. Why am

1488
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: I saying that ESPN's Mark Ramundy came out with a

1489
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 2: report that UFC only offered essentially Gable a development deal

1490
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: on par with what Greg Hardy, former NFL Star did,

1491
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 2: wanting him to fight first on the regional scene and

1492
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: then attempt to qualify for the UFC through the Dana

1493
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: White Contender series. Luke Gable appears to be a once

1494
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: in a generation not only athlete but maybe personality, which

1495
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: is why WWE threw themselves at him. Do you look

1496
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: at USCS, particularly in MMA in general, as having failed

1497
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 2: for not being willing to treat him that way to

1498
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 2: bring him in right now?

1499
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: At first I thought yes. At first I thought, dude, like,

1500
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: no one in MMA is a sure thing, even if

1501
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 3: they have success, how long can it be sustained? I

1502
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: thought kan Velaskiaz was a sure thing, and for a

1503
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: time he was, and then he just wasn't and the

1504
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: whole thing kind of went away. So at first I thought, dude, like,

1505
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 3: why would you just let this guy walk? Because even

1506
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 3: if you let him go to WWE and he does

1507
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 3: well there, by the time you get him, assuming you

1508
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 3: can get him, he's gonna be way more expensive than

1509
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 3: if you had gotten a deal early on. And by

1510
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 3: the way, those development deals weren't just given to Greg Hardy,

1511
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 3: like Mackenzie Dern got one.

1512
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: Of those deals.

1513
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 3: There's lots of fighters who've gotten those deals to like

1514
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: you know, you can moonlight in an LFA or something

1515
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 3: like that and then when you're ready, they can call

1516
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 3: you up and so you know, they hand out I

1517
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: want to say, with regularity, but they're not super rare either.

1518
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 3: But then I thought about something BC. I'm not saying

1519
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 3: that they shouldn't have put more effort in, because I

1520
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 3: do think they should have put more effort in because

1521
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 3: if he goes to WWE, now there's no guarantee he

1522
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 3: even does MMA. I think he probably will, but the

1523
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 3: future is quite unpredictable. The one thing I'll say, though,

1524
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: is like why would they whiff on that? Like the

1525
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: UFC doesn't have dumb people running it, Like you can

1526
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 3: disagree with this call or that call, but they're they're

1527
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 3: smart people, right.

1528
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 5: My feeling is that.

1529
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 1: Two things.

1530
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: One, there's been lots of NCAA champions and even Olympians

1531
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 3: who have just not necessarily turned into great MMA fighters

1532
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 3: even when they've tried. Of course, we know the opposite

1533
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: is true. There's been plenty that have. But as much

1534
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: as you might think an Olympic gold medal and an

1535
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 3: NCAA Division One title is a guarantee of MMA success.

1536
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 3: It might be the best guarantee that we have, but

1537
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 3: it's still not great, dude. Prospecting an MMA is difficult.

1538
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 3: They might just want to see, like, is this guy

1539
01:13:58,920 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: ever gonna be any good?

1540
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: First? Let's see what we have.

1541
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: The other part that I sort of considered be seeing

1542
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: and I wonder what you think about this. I don't

1543
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 3: know if at all this is true, but I wonder, dude.

1544
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 3: The UFC is more popular now than at any point

1545
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 3: in its history. Now, you could make a case that

1546
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen was this big watershed year because you had

1547
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: Connor and Ronda basically fighting essentially every quarter and it

1548
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 3: was such a big year, and then they had the sales.

1549
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: But dude, the ESPN partnership with UFC has leveled it

1550
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 3: up in a way where I don't ever remember UFC

1551
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 3: being this culturally accepted and big month over month, week

1552
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 3: over week in the way that UFC is. This is

1553
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: all a high watermark in certain ways. They might just

1554
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 3: feel like, Brian, tell me what you think, dude, He's

1555
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: going to end up here anyway. Why do we need

1556
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 3: to go and spend money to do X, Y and

1557
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 3: Z when dude, he knows as well as we know,

1558
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: we're really the only game in town. I don't know

1559
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 3: if that's how they feel, but I kind of wonder

1560
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 3: if they might be leaning in that direction.

1561
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: Well look, you know, just for a point of record,

1562
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: ESPN's Mike Coppinger did interview Gable and he he essentially

1563
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: said that the Remandi report was wrong and that none

1564
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: of those offers ever happened. So who knows the truth

1565
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 2: specifically on that? And to your point, the UFC brand

1566
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: stronger than ever in terms of it doesn't matter who

1567
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: we put out there, the money's coming in. But you know,

1568
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is Dana White saying, you know,

1569
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: our job is not to make stars. Our job is

1570
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: to sign stars that are ready to come in. And

1571
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 2: if this guy, who knows that the negotiation table was

1572
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: Gable a little unwilling, did they get any sense that

1573
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: maybe he wasn't the real deal? In MMA? This is

1574
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: them just saying we're not. We don't lust after anybody.

1575
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: You left after us, And I do think UFC is

1576
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: in a position to act like that. Luke, the you know,

1577
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: That's why they can tell John Jones, go pound sand

1578
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: if you don't want to fight for this rate, they

1579
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: are still in the power position. I just think you

1580
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: look at the unprecedented deal Beltour gave Aaron Pico, where

1581
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 2: they were paying him while in high school to train

1582
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: and go through school and you know, and at the

1583
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 2: end of it they'll get him and you know, and

1584
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: it's still worked out, even though obviously he didn't become

1585
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: the same level of early success we thought. I'm shocked

1586
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: though that it seemed like nobody was willing, not any

1587
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: of the organizations was willing to throw themselves on that level.

1588
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: Maybe there's skeptisical, you know, skepticism. Maybe they think he's

1589
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: a little bit too in love with the pro wrestling side,

1590
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 2: which personality wise, it seems that he gets that and

1591
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 2: he's willing. But it is interesting, Luke. We will see

1592
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: him in MMA, it's inevitable, and I think you'll see

1593
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: him in MMA on the brightest stage for big time

1594
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: money when it actually does happen. But you will also

1595
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: see him on ww programming during his senior year at

1596
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: Minnesota as he continues to train and grow. Hey, big

1597
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 2: move for WWE. Let's keep it rolling here, Luke also

1598
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 2: Oscar Valdez little controversy of course, with the drug test.

1599
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: He will fight tonight ESPN card from his home town

1600
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: of Tucson, born in Mexico, raised in Tucson, against twenty

1601
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: sixteen Olympic gold medalist from Brazil Rubson Concesaw. It's a

1602
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,839
Speaker 2: rematch of their Pan Am Games final in which Canseesa

1603
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 2: won six to five. Luke, given all the drug testing, BS,

1604
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 2: does this make you want to watch this fight more

1605
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: or less based on an original because this isn't a

1606
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: high level fight, but you do respect unbeaten Oscar Valdez.

1607
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: He plowed through Miguel Burchell to kind of become, you know,

1608
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: one of these twenty twenty one risers.

1609
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: Your mileage may vary, but it makes me want to

1610
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: see it more. I am very curious to see how

1611
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 3: this all plays out. I tend to think it will

1612
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 3: look just like the way you thought it might in

1613
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: your head. Maybe anyway, Like I don't know if it'll

1614
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: be just a dramatic difference, but you know, I don't

1615
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 3: know if he's on something, and I don't know if

1616
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: he's not. But what I do know is, you know,

1617
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 3: there are some exceptions to this rule. Certainly there are

1618
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 3: ways which things can go quite poorly, But in general,

1619
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: I tend to think that drugs do have a place

1620
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 3: in sports, and then when they are placed properly, they

1621
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 3: make sports better. So, you know, I'm supposed to say

1622
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: that I'm horrified by all of this, but his opponent

1623
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,640
Speaker 3: knows exactly what he's getting into at this point, and

1624
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, they are a larger debate about everything that

1625
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 3: happened anyway, So yeah, I'm actually quite curious to see

1626
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 3: what happens.

1627
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: Look, they've got the amateur history, but Valdez is just

1628
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: a better fighter at this point in their careers. There's

1629
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: no question he's the favorite. He should be. I'm trying

1630
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: to get the specific odds DraftKings has minus sixteen hundred

1631
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: Valdez plus eight hundred. Can say sow, we know Tim

1632
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: Bradley wants to see Valdez get knocked out. Shakur Stevenson

1633
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: also came out and said he didn't think this fight

1634
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: should happen, and Luke, I want you to hear these

1635
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 2: two tweets that Leonard Ellerby, CEO of Mayweather Promotions, who

1636
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: obviously promotes Gervonte Davis who is in and around this

1637
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: weight division. He says, all of a sudden, you got

1638
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: fighters who move up weight classes and warrant punchers before.

1639
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: Now they're scoring as fuck, punching through the target. Get

1640
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. Either you a puncher or not,

1641
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: you don't all of a sudden just start punching through

1642
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: the target. I mean literally punching through the target. Run

1643
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: that bullshit on booboo the fool lol, Luke. Although he

1644
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: didn't mention Valdez's name, it seems like that's who he's

1645
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: talking about.

1646
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: Is you're talking about Demetrius Andre.

1647
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: No, he's talking about I think he's talking about Valdez

1648
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 2: moving up in way to face Burchell and then knocking

1649
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: him out when Valdez wasn't a massive puncher featherweight in

1650
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: the past.

1651
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 1: He was more Yeah, I was confused because he was

1652
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: saying booboo.

1653
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1654
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what that reference is to.

1655
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,719
Speaker 3: I mean it was yeah in any case, Yeah, yeah,

1656
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: there might be.

1657
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1658
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: I've not examined Valdez's career, probably to the same detail

1659
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: that Leonard Ellerby has. I'll just say that, you know,

1660
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 3: my position on this is fairly clear. I think his

1661
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 3: opponent knows exactly what's up, and if he is not

1662
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 3: okay with it, then that's fine. But if you are

1663
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: okay with it, then you're okay with it.

1664
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: So I think almost every big name boxer is using.

1665
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's gonna get me in trouble.

1666
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's I don't know if every

1667
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 3: big name boxer is using, but I do think most

1668
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 3: big name boxers, at one point or another have used.

1669
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 2: I think you get to a point if you have

1670
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: the money. I think you say it's it's smarter to

1671
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 2: protect myself because I'm sure my opponent is right. I mean,

1672
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: this is a business, Luke, and there's a business with

1673
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: noted gangsters in power. Luke. It's the wild frickin' West.

1674
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,839
Speaker 2: You know this, Luke Thomas.

1675
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I do, all right? I do?

1676
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 5: Oh, Luke.

1677
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:26,639
Speaker 2: Here's here's an interesting quick hitter. Former UFC Women's straweight

1678
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 2: champion Jessica Andrage admitted that leaked photos on OnlyFans helped

1679
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: her pay off both her house and her car, so

1680
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: she's okay with it. These are nudes that made it

1681
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: out there, and Luke, just to give you a little

1682
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: bit of reference. Not long after winning the title by

1683
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 2: slamming Rose on her head, I remember Andrag had made

1684
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: headlines saying she had to sell off the gloves that

1685
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: she wore to win the championship and some of her

1686
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 2: gear to pay for training camp, which is in a

1687
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: lot of ways an indictment on the current fighter pay situation,

1688
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 2: although obviously we have no idea Androge is true financial situation,

1689
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: but this was an interesting headline just the same. How

1690
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: bad does it look for the UFC that some of

1691
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: its biggest fighters and it's not just on Drodge. You

1692
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 2: got a ton of fighters either making their own page

1693
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: vanfanzantpage dot com or going straight to OnlyFans. Does this

1694
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: Is this an indictment on the UH on the industry

1695
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 2: in general?

1696
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: Luke? Yeah, yeah.

1697
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 3: I mean again, there's always a larger complex figure or

1698
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: situation that should be examined about someone's financial situation and

1699
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 3: how money is spent and what kind of challenges that

1700
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: they have. But you hear enough of these where it

1701
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 3: was like, yo, I mean, this is not like Gronk

1702
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: being like, oh, I've not touched my football money.

1703
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: All of my money.

1704
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: Is from that I spend day to day and for

1705
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 3: my life is from advertising, right, I don't touch the

1706
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 3: football money that will happen when I retire. This is

1707
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: not that, this is you know, basic, I wanna say basic,

1708
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 3: but this is without this money, I just wouldn't be

1709
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: able to do things that. There's a difference between that,

1710
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 3: like Gronk can just surf off of deodorant or cool ranch,

1711
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Dorito's money or whatever the hell he's got. That's not

1712
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 3: the same as and I'm not here to judge it,

1713
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 3: you know, because this is leaked photos and whatever else.

1714
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 3: But you know, nudity, this is not sex work in

1715
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 3: that way, but you know, work that would be somewhat

1716
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: considered atypical in order to you know, accomplish your financial goals. Yes,

1717
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it necessarily sheds the same light. But BC,

1718
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: the reality is that none of us know anything and

1719
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 3: we're all scumbags, so you know, I mean.

1720
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: Luke as much as we make OnlyFans jokes. I've never

1721
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: been on the site. I really don't, don't you know,

1722
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 2: get into that part of the dark but not dark Web.

1723
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,679
Speaker 2: Are other prominent female athletes and other sports also doing

1724
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: this because it seems there's an aortamate amount of MMA

1725
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: fighters who are doing.

1726
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 3: It, not to my knowledge, Like you know, you know,

1727
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: if you're Arena Williams, why on earth would you even want.

1728
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that could be exception to the rule, but

1729
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: if you're a somewhat elite tennis WNBA soccer, I don't know,

1730
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: are they out there doing that? It seems like it's

1731
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: MMA only. So does that mean MMA is scummy or

1732
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: does that mean we've got a payment problem or both?

1733
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 3: Luke, I tend to think that the culture inside MMA

1734
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 3: is going to be much more tolerant and frankly like

1735
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 3: it also says something about dude. Let's just say it

1736
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: out loud. The majority of MMA fans are dudes. And

1737
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 3: I realize it just gone. Drodge is in a committed,

1738
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 3: you know, lesbian relationship. But most MMA fans are dudes,

1739
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 3: and they're horny. I mean, they're just the horniest toads

1740
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 3: on the lily pad. Dude, These guys can't keep their pants.

1741
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: On quick enough.

1742
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 3: So like, one, the culture is permissive of this, and two, dude,

1743
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: there's a giant demand for it. And if you're not

1744
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 3: making super killer money from your Wimbledon winnings, you know,

1745
01:23:54,080 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 3: like the the the siren call of some DJ assaults.

1746
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 3: You know, A and T is just always going to

1747
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 3: be out there. It seems like it's just the market

1748
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 3: powers are pretty strong.

1749
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: Tangentially related to OnlyFans. Did you see the pictures that

1750
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 2: came out of Adustania's ass tats?

1751
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: No, he has astats.

1752
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: I'll have to bring that up on have you seen

1753
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: this shit on Monday? I think it's him. I'm not

1754
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 2: well spoken on his ass but it was interesting, Luke,

1755
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: just the same, all right. Also in the MMA news cycle, Luke,

1756
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: Luckily I didn't ask you which fighter do you hope

1757
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: ends up on OnlyFans?

1758
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: That isn't Luke right, I will not answer that question.

1759
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, Luke.

1760
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 2: The MMA movie Warrior, which we have passed done a

1761
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: homework assignment here on Morning Combat. It's going to be

1762
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 2: made into a TV series and Daniel Cormier has been

1763
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: cast in the lead role. How much of an interest

1764
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: do you have in this A, Luke, given that the

1765
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: movie was pretty damn good and B do you think

1766
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: Cormier can make this kind of transition to It's not

1767
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 2: a reality series, this is legitimate acting.

1768
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: First of all, say good for Cormier. I don't know

1769
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 3: how well he can act. He does most things he

1770
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 3: tries pretty goddamn well. Uh, he seems gregarious and bubbly.

1771
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: I guess we'll have to see. I'll just say, like

1772
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 3: my only thought on this BC and I wonder where

1773
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 3: you are. I'm happy for him, and I hope it

1774
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 3: does well, and I hope he gets paid. That'd be great.

1775
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 3: But like my people like, oh, are you going to watch? No,

1776
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 3: like there's no chance. I.

1777
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,919
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you got to give it one episode.

1778
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: Don't be like that.

1779
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: I might give it. I might give a one episode.

1780
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 1: I'm not here to look.

1781
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 3: I'm not in any way saying it will be bad

1782
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 3: or not worthy of anyone else's time. That's not at

1783
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 3: all what I'm saying. It's just for me in this occupation.

1784
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 3: I try to have a life outside of MMA, and

1785
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: if if I'm done watching fights and then I'm turning

1786
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 3: on the TV to watch an MMA drama series, I'm

1787
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 3: not getting that well roundedness that I'm looking for. So

1788
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 3: I hope he makes money. The guys who previously involved

1789
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: are warrior. I thought worried was you know, overrated, But

1790
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,680
Speaker 3: most people inside of the community seem to like it.

1791
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 3: He obviously had good actors and good performances. Very good

1792
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 3: performances as a.

1793
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: Matter, Ryan Callen, Brian Callen, very strong in that role.

1794
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: Luke Okay, yes, I would say more. Nick Nolty was

1795
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 3: strong in that role. Tom Hardy. But you get the

1796
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: idea like this is hard to look at this as

1797
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: anything other than a win for Cormier. And also, man,

1798
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 3: you know there's been two MMA series put on television

1799
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: in the last like ten years. You got the the

1800
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 3: what was the one on DirecTV that was like King

1801
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck it was called.

1802
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I never watched that, but I hear people like.

1803
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 3: Well regarded show by most observers from what I can tell,

1804
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 3: And now you have this one. Dude, Like, we grew

1805
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: up in an era where boxing was the king, and

1806
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 3: even when MMA can't came along, no one could touch

1807
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 3: that Mayweather Pachiao era of dominance. Dude, the tables have

1808
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 3: fucking turn. You can still make boxing movies, and I

1809
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 3: tend to think in general, boxing movies are better for

1810
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 3: a lot of different reasons. Uh, And boxing is having

1811
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 3: a bit of a resurgence with this whole YouTuber old man.

1812
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: Thing going on.

1813
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it says a lot about

1814
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 3: MMA's entry into the cultural zeitgeist so to speak, that

1815
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 3: it has now all of these television shows.

1816
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: Certainly, I mean, it's as mainstream as ever because of

1817
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 2: the ESPN deal, even though obviously the Fox deal was

1818
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 2: a big turning point, but the ESPN deal just took

1819
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: it to another level. And we have seen and look,

1820
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: this is an MMA show, So let's give you know,

1821
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: this isn't like George Forman getting his own sitcom back

1822
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 2: in the nineties, which was a big deal, but it

1823
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: shows Cormier's in MMA's mainstream appeal just the same. But look,

1824
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: we've seen at times in sports where you know, you

1825
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 2: get a Michael Strahan or a Tiki Barber or whomever

1826
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 2: who can do like daytime TV because they're so charming

1827
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: and camera ready. Do you think Cormier, whether it's you know,

1828
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,520
Speaker 2: transitioning through this RC and DC into some more mainstream

1829
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: sports analysis can can become, you know, sort of that

1830
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: overnight sensation in this in sports media or even beyond.

1831
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Is if anybody in MMA has that it factor to

1832
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 2: slide into the living rooms of general you know, across America,

1833
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 2: is it DC.

1834
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 3: I'll say this I lived through and you did two

1835
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 3: as well. Like I saw the Rock, you know, become

1836
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 3: a major tele I should say that television star, movie star,

1837
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: and the way it seemed to me, and you would

1838
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 3: know better because you're probably much more familiar with his

1839
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 3: the totality of his work. But like, from what I

1840
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: could tell, he went from doing pro wrestling really well

1841
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 3: to then making you know, some shittier movies, but like

1842
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 3: he completely pulled it off. The first one I saw

1843
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 3: of is I forget now was the one he did

1844
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 3: with uh, who's the guy who played Stiffler?

1845
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: Do you remember that movie he did with him?

1846
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 3: Like he was the bodyguard for the kid and they

1847
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 3: had this jungle adventure and shit, and he and Stiffler

1848
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 3: basically had this like you know, brother comedy thing going

1849
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 3: on in the movie and it fucking worked.

1850
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: Dude.

1851
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 3: I was talking about this the other day, like my

1852
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 3: daughter loves Moana. The Rock is on there, and now

1853
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 3: it does he act as the character Maui. Dude, he

1854
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: sings like one of the signature songs of the movie,

1855
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 3: and he.

1856
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Fucking the Rock's undefeated. I'm sorry, Like, seriously, I just

1857
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,839
Speaker 2: saw that Jungle Book Cruise movie. Like the movie was okay,

1858
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: The Rock was freaking fantastic, Luke. He he can't lose.

1859
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 2: Right now, there's rumors he may the ww he may

1860
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: break the bank to bring him back to Wrestle Roman

1861
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 2: raging at wrestleman. I mean, the Rock is the ultimate

1862
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 2: winner of life.

1863
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: Okay, but this is what I mean.

1864
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to not just be a in

1865
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 3: his case, pro wrestler, in the case of Cormier, a

1866
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 3: former fighter who can do like good television or you know,

1867
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: you can pull it off and it's okay, Like if

1868
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 3: you go in there and wow people somewhat like The

1869
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 3: Rock made the full transition to movie story and obviously

1870
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 3: that's insanely thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying he has

1871
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: to do that, but like, what is possible here. If

1872
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 3: the Rocks lesson is anything, it's that once you immerse

1873
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 3: yourself in that world, you have to pull it off

1874
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 3: on that world's terms. Cormier seems like he might be

1875
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 3: able to do it.

1876
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: We'll have to see.

1877
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to make a Rock comparison though,

1878
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: because because of the pro wrestling success, I understand he's

1879
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: next level charismatic.

1880
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: But Shout Out to the Rock is the outlier of

1881
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: all outliers.

1882
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Do you think there's any you know in the

1883
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: great DC versus John Jones rivalry, really the greatest rivalry

1884
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 2: in history. I said it. I mean it did DC

1885
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:01,799
Speaker 2: win because of shit like this or.

1886
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 3: Or no, whatever happened in the octagon will always will

1887
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 3: probably always have supremacy, right, and we see, I would

1888
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: love to know how you feel about this. But at

1889
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 3: the same time, dude, look at where they just are today.

1890
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 3: John Jones is the guy who holds the wins, and

1891
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 3: I was there for.

1892
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: I think both of them.

1893
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 3: I was in a place for both of those fights,

1894
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 3: and dude, those were like I mean, I mean, I

1895
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 3: remember after he'd beat them the second time, I was like, dude,

1896
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 3: that is a fucking major, major, major statement he just made.

1897
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 3: That's a historical statement he just made. But then you

1898
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: look around today. He's on television Cormier constantly. People are

1899
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 3: asking for his services as fighters like Kevin holland you've

1900
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 3: got now this budding career. It appears, we'll see what

1901
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 3: happens on television. He had a weight class up title,

1902
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 3: which John Jones has not done. I'm not saying it

1903
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 3: erases the wins that John Jones had we see, but

1904
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 3: don't you agree At some point when you look around,

1905
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 3: people aren't really talking about John Jones. He's not doing anything.

1906
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 3: He's just sitting on the sidelines, and Cormier is climbing

1907
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 3: the ladder of life rung by, rung by, rung. I

1908
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: gotta say, there is a real clear difference in the picture,

1909
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 3: whatever that's supposed to mean.

1910
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: You add in the drug issues and suspicions, which are legitimate,

1911
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,519
Speaker 2: you know, even in both fights, because DC claims the

1912
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 2: first fight was before you saw it and he's got

1913
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: legitimate concerns there which you know, you can take it

1914
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 2: or leave it. But uh, the USC has stacked the

1915
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 2: stacked it against the fighters so much that should John

1916
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Jones continue fighting the good fight for fighter pay, it's

1917
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 2: only gonna lead to him not fighting. Unfortunately, Luke, It's

1918
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: gonna lead to like long sitting out in legal terms.

1919
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: So John Jones is gonna get to a point soon

1920
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: where he may just have to fall on the sword

1921
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 2: and say whatever they're gonna pay me, I'm gonna do

1922
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 2: it just to stay relevant or whatever if he wants to.

1923
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 2: You know, John Jones could also walk away. I don't

1924
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: see it happening, but if he did, it might be

1925
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: you know, his he's intact, he's the damn goat Luke,

1926
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 2: you know, and there's not there's only two. There's there's

1927
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 2: only so many times we can see, you know, honey, honey, booty,

1928
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 2: booty call him on the cell phone, and it still

1929
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: doesn't soil that part of.

1930
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 3: His forgot okay, but it got forgotten. But John Jones

1931
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: got arrested during the pandemic for remember allegedly or whatever

1932
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 3: it was. I think he played guilty, but there was

1933
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 3: the drunk driving part and he's, you know, allegedly firing

1934
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:18,799
Speaker 3: off shots in the air.

1935
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: That just got like wiped away. People just forgot about it.

1936
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 3: I'm just saying in the game of life, the what

1937
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 3: happened in the octagon is a key part of it.

1938
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 3: So if you want to say that John is like

1939
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: clearly the superior there, what am I gonna say DC

1940
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 3: was a superior He wasn't. But I just sort of mean,

1941
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 3: like in their rivalry about who was gonna do what?

1942
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 1: Dude like DC.

1943
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 3: Is like doing a lot man, and you just can't

1944
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 3: lose sight of that, and where John Jones is just

1945
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 3: not around.

1946
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 2: Look, you're gonna hate this, but you're gonna friacking hate

1947
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 2: this question, but the fan in me can't stop wanting it.

1948
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: Nine months training camp to give ample time to both

1949
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 2: to get ready. DC versus John Jones at heavyweight? Who wins?

1950
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 2: And why.

1951
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 1: For a third one?

1952
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 5: Damn right?

1953
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing.

1954
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 3: I do think there was a window where Cormier could

1955
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 3: have made it competitive at heavyweight, but he's past it

1956
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 3: now too. You know, the stevee fight was a big

1957
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 3: kind of lesson in that. So yeah, for the third

1958
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 3: one anyway, So I'd still say John, but I'm gonna

1959
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 3: go back to it. I'm gonna go back to Brian.

1960
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 3: This idea that when John comes back, he's just assuming

1961
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 3: to be the greatest heavyweight on the roster, I think

1962
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 3: is deeply misplaced. I don't The division is moving along,

1963
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna have to play some catch up.

1964
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 2: Well, the narrative is moving along even faster because of

1965
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 2: seeing a Ganu rise and seeing gon rise and seeing

1966
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: not seeing Jones fight right and the more and the

1967
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 2: only tape we have are the close fights with with

1968
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: Maheta and with Reyes, So you know he's got to come.

1969
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 2: You're only as good as your last fight in this game.

1970
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 2: So I'd like to see John get a new last

1971
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: fight to recalibrate this discussion. All right, Luke, that's enough

1972
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 2: for our five topics. By the way, I've got Jay

1973
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Aaron texting me mid show his new song, the new

1974
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: Pennington James song that's today, Luke, I don't mean to

1975
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: give him that free plug. How angry would you be

1976
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 2: right now if you look down at your phone and

1977
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 2: saw this text that says, I know you're live, but

1978
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: I've got breaking news.

1979
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean with that, I would tell him.

1980
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 3: I would tell him what a certain fighter once told

1981
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 3: me when I texted him and he didn't like it,

1982
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 3: which was lose my number?

1983
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh please?

1984
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 5: Which fighter was that?

1985
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Please?

1986
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Okay, he's retired. This was a long This was Scott

1987
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 3: What was this twenty? This was like two thousand and

1988
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 3: nine or something. He's long gone.

1989
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Did he ever win a title?

1990
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

1991
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: Not in UFC.

1992
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was Woodley, but I guess not.

1993
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: All right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

1994
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: You certainly in that moment felt a little bit dead wrong, Luke.

1995
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 2: Luckily we have a segment what are.

1996
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 1: The answers my texts? So it's okay, that's fair.

1997
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: Every Friday, Morning Combat at gmail dot com is your

1998
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 2: email address. And by the way, just just a heads up.

1999
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 2: I love our fans. I do talk to our fans regularly.

2000
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: Still rule number one, no stick picks. But please don't

2001
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 2: do not. Please do not send me fan submissions or

2002
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: anything else through the DM. Send them to Morningcombat at

2003
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Our trustee Steed, as Luke would say,

2004
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 2: Mikey Morms will handle those and get them to us. Uh.

2005
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: That's how you send in when we screw up. Sometimes

2006
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: we do. Luckily we have a segment for it. It's

2007
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 2: called dead wrong, Dead wrong, all right. No name on

2008
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: this entry, Luke. But on Luke's Live Chat episode eighty five,

2009
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 2: when Luke was asked about live shows he've seen I

2010
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 2: think that means concerts, Luke incorrectly speculated the Mexican duo

2011
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 2: Rodrigo E Gabriella. This was at one oh one forty

2012
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 2: one in the video we're probably brother and sister. It

2013
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 2: turns out they're not related. In our musical partners who

2014
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: used to date, he is dead right about them being

2015
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: excellent live, though also in honorary dead wrong to Big

2016
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: Beije for his unofficial Riggandal Kess Marrow scorecard. Seriously, what

2017
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 2: the f dude, keep up the great work, guys. Come

2018
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 2: at me, guys, Okay, I'm here. I'll defend that scorecard

2019
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 2: all day. Just because you weren't entertained by gear.

2020
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you this.

2021
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 3: You kind of laugh off all like the metal concerts

2022
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 3: I want to take you to. I will say, dude,

2023
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you've not heard of Rodrigo Gabriella.

2024
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: I think you would like them. Man. One thing that

2025
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: they do, it's just they don't sing. There's no singing.

2026
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 3: No no, no, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out.

2027
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 3: Do They are like extremely accomplished guitarists. And I saw

2028
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 3: them in Silver Spring, Maryland a few years ago. And

2029
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 3: the Rodrigo what he did was he put a camera,

2030
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 3: a floating camera on a beer bottle and then use

2031
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: the beer bottle a cappella with the camera on it

2032
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 3: on the sliding hand on the frets and he played

2033
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 3: Metallica's Sanitarium on it gyan Off and then played oriyon

2034
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 3: off the Master of Puppets album.

2035
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Dude, it was fucking awesome.

2036
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 2: Tell him to lose Saint Anger's number. Luke, okay, and

2037
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 2: keep up with what he's doing.

2038
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 5: All right.

2039
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 2: By the way, I got people sliding. Oh, BC, st

2040
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 2: Inger's actually the third best album yo, gfy Bro Okay, shit.

2041
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 3: Eat shit, lose this show, third worst album of my life.

2042
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 2: Lose your subscription to this show right now, thank you

2043
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 2: very much? All right, Luke, John is gonna slide in

2044
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 2: and try to dead wrong us for our reaction to

2045
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 2: his dead wrong on your most recent dead wrong around

2046
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 2: the eighty six minute mark, I had dead wrong Luke

2047
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: about him saying one Judge gave rounds five to nine

2048
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 2: to Jake Paul against Tyron Woodley. This was from the

2049
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: post fight recap around the eight and a half minute mark.

2050
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I re listened due to Luke claiming I was wrong.

2051
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: After listening again, Luke does in fact say rounds five

2052
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 2: to nine when it was only an eight round fight. Luke,

2053
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to listen again because you are dead wrong, sir.

2054
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 2: Appreciate all the hard work you scousers do. But like BC,

2055
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,799
Speaker 2: this dead wrong was easy.

2056
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: EC Yeah, I didn't mean to say nine, but okay, fine.

2057
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 2: All right. Score one for John on that one. Let's

2058
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 2: go over this one from Cody and David. At the

2059
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 2: beginning of episode one ninety nine, Luke misquotes the song

2060
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 2: Big Yellow Taxi. He says, pink furry dice to put

2061
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 2: up a park and uh, not going to lie. That

2062
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 2: makes no sense And I don't know why he thought

2063
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 2: those would be the lyrics. The actual lyrics are They've

2064
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 2: paved Paradise to put up a parking line.

2065
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, I'm sure that the

2066
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 3: original lyrics are that way.

2067
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: No, the original lyrics are they pave Paradise by Joni

2068
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: Mitchell off of the h Ladies of the Canyon album.

2069
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 2: I believe, yes, hold on, but uh, you know, pink

2070
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 2: very furry dice not the right lyrics. I should have

2071
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 2: dead wronged you in the moment. I did hear that.

2072
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 5: That's hilarious.

2073
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it totally wrong. Oh oh, pink Hotel.

2074
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 3: Pink Hotel is what they reference on the song. Okay,

2075
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 3: all right, I decided.

2076
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 2: To dead wrong you in the moment for the artist

2077
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 2: you were like Amy Grant.

2078
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Amy Grant did sing it, but you're everybody.

2079
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: The comic I just had a hit with it. But

2080
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 2: come on, you got to go back to it.

2081
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: They did. Counting Crows covered that shit too.

2082
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, somewhat recently in the last decade, and it

2083
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 2: was it was actually pretty good. I mean, it's a

2084
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 2: little girly and cheesy, but it was good. I'll stand

2085
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 2: by the Counting Crows. By the way, if you're wondering

2086
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 2: in their first album, August and everything after Luke, you've

2087
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 2: You've heckled me in the past for saying this it's

2088
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: a top five nineties album. I don't care what you

2089
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 2: say or think it is.

2090
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: I'll say this, I don't know if it's a top

2091
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 3: five nineties album in the sense of like, what are

2092
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 3: the top five nineties albums?

2093
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: But I can't deny in high.

2094
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 3: School the fucking massive influence the Counting Class had over

2095
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 3: music and it was modern at that time.

2096
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 2: It was like Van Morrison meets Bob Dylan with a

2097
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 2: nineties feel to it.

2098
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: It was it.

2099
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 2: It was great. Look, I'll be honest. They never kept

2100
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: it up to the level the first album. Okay, I

2101
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 2: love the first three records, but the first one is

2102
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 2: better than anything by far that they've ever done.

2103
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: There's no quese, but you had the same reaction I

2104
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,839
Speaker 1: did too, Like, what's the song? It was like, cut up, Maria,

2105
01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 1: show me some of that Spanish dancing. What's the name

2106
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: of that song? Mister Jones?

2107
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember the first time you saw the mister Jones video,

2108
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,799
Speaker 3: You're like, why does this white dude have fucking dreadlocks?

2109
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: Ye?

2110
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:05,839
Speaker 1: Like a moron?

2111
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 5: Yo.

2112
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 2: He banged both stars from Friends back to back.

2113
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: Just Lee.

2114
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: That's like prime, Brian Ortega, uh, Charles in Charge and

2115
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 2: John Mayer level BD. That's like like, like, those are

2116
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 2: probably the three most accomplished guys we've ever seen. Right,

2117
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,440
Speaker 2: Tommy Lee had some big hits too, Tommy.

2118
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tommy Lee had a giant wang like Tommy

2119
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Speaker 3: Crows almost certainly has a micro penis.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's like a total zero. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Look, imagine if we had that ability when we were

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Speaker 2: recording women, to just write them a song and play

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Speaker 2: it like that would have been I know.

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Speaker 1: I always look back.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I was tasked. I was given the

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Speaker 3: world's worst abilities. I have a mediocre ability to talk

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Speaker 3: about two dudes fist fighting and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Like I got fuck all else going on.

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Speaker 2: I got a nose, I got an eye that jumps

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01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: around like low check lopan when uh, yeah, you got it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, okay.

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Speaker 2: By the way, did you speaking of this, did you

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Speaker 2: see where Tito at the press conference said, I know

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Speaker 2: Anderson Silva is gonna do that Bruce Lee Wang Chung bullshit,

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Speaker 2: but I'm gonna come out fighting. What did you think

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Speaker 2: of that, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I don't think much about what Tito says.

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Speaker 2: All right, we got one more dead wrong here from

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01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 2: Greg Professor Salton Pepper was dead wrong at thirty six

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Speaker 2: minutes forty five seconds of episode one ninety nine when

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Speaker 2: discussing Darren Till's difficult weight cut against wonder Boy Thompson

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. While mentioning the fact that Till went

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Speaker 2: blind as a result, Luke made the mistake of referring

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Speaker 2: to this as the last time Till tried to make

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Speaker 2: the walter weight limit. I almost dead wronged you in

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Speaker 2: the moment, but I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's right, that's right, because he thought he fought

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01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 3: Uh obviously would ley after this.

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Speaker 2: Luke is dead wrong because Till had two more fights

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Speaker 2: at one seventy, successfully making weight both times. So Luke,

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Speaker 2: take that hell and straddle it. Don't worry BC, I'm

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01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 2: coming back to dead wrong You're ass next week. So

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01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 2: chick yours on the mic before I wreck you on

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01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 2: this segment. All jokes aside, congratulations on two hundred and

2155
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,799
Speaker 2: cheers to two hundred more unless BC gets you fired first.

2156
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 2: Big ups from your Canadian audience. Don't know what we

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01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 2: would do without you MK all day, basically every day, Luke,

2158
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 2: what's more likely to happen? He used to be that

2159
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 2: me getting us fired? I think it's Is it more

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01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 2: likely because our friends at at mk Reddit put out

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01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 2: a poll asking how long they think this show is

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01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 2: going to at last? It's inevitable, Luke, that it'll explode.

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01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: Will it be me getting us fired by saying something,

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01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 2: You getting pissed off at being censored and running away,

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01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: or us or us imploding and hating each other and

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01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 2: ending it, or us dying Luke, or us dying due

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Speaker 2: to our habits.

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think both of us had a

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01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 3: wake up call and we're working on that. I don't

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01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 3: think that's a long term play, but I do think

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01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 3: that the wheels are in motion for that one, so

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01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 3: that one's not definitely people trying to tell me what to.

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Speaker 1: Do would be not. You know, it's going to be

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01:42:59,280 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: a problem down the road.

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Speaker 3: But if I had to guess, I'm gonna guess it's

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Speaker 3: you and I just absolutely collapsing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's wrong. It's not long before you and

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Speaker 2: I ask for separate limousines to drive us to the events. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's not. We're not far from that. We're the only

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Speaker 2: talking we do is on the show that's coming.

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Speaker 3: Well, first we have to get limousines, yes, and then

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01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 3: then once we get those, they have to be separate.

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01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 3: So we got a few hills to climb before we completely.

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01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 2: We're gonna be like the Eagles or Fleetwood Mac or whoever.

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01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 2: Like you know, don't. We don't congregate or consummate in

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Speaker 2: real life anymore. It's to show up on stage, do

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Speaker 2: the business, get the hell out of there, all right, Luke,

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01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:36,560
Speaker 2: that's the end of the show. I don't really have

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01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: a tip this week. I failed to prepare adequately in

2190
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: that regard. But we do want to encourage people to

2191
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Speaker 2: take advantage of this mk DK special on DraftKings in

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01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,440
Speaker 2: this NFL weekend really allows you a chance to exploit

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Speaker 2: that freedom on the DraftKings sportsbook, in which you will

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Speaker 2: get two hundred dollars of free bets for one bet

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Speaker 2: being made. I think, look, you only have to have

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Speaker 2: five dollars in your account, and the minimum bet you

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Speaker 2: can make is one dollar. You get two hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: worth of bets. Luke, when you look at it this weekend,

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Speaker 2: I was already right. I'm picking the Cowboys. They covered

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01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 2: despite that close defeat by field goal. Why don't I

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Speaker 2: take my two hundred dollars in free bets and put

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Speaker 2: it on a parlay. I want the Lions plus seven

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Speaker 2: point five. I want the Giants money line at plus one,

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01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 2: forty Eagles at plus three and a half, and the

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Speaker 2: Titans at minus three. If you run that BC parlay special,

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Speaker 2: it'll net you three thousand, four hundred twenty six dollars

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01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,040
Speaker 2: and forty cents. That's a lot of hot dogs at

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01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 2: the old gas station. So give me the Lions, the Giants,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles and the Titans on a fourteen parlay. I

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Speaker 2: can make your two hundred dollars go very very far.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a parlay like that. I'm not that good.

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01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 3: But my god, this app is so easy to use.

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01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 3: I might start using it, but again, I go back

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01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 3: to I really I don't watch a whole lot of

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01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 3: NFL football beyond what the Washington football team does. I

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01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 3: have seen the claims that this season is supposed to

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01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:08,839
Speaker 3: be different. Riverboat Ron is changing the culture. Dan Snyder's

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01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 3: out of the picture, his wife is running the show.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. They cleaned up the franchise.

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01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't believeally believing in that shit. But I do

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01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 3: know that Chase Young is going to have a fucking

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01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 3: monster year. The defense is certainly a lot better than

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01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 3: the offense Fitsmagic bringing it to DC. I think he'll

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01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 3: last the season. I think that they will win the

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Speaker 3: NFC East and they will start yep, I think that well.

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Speaker 3: I mean when I mean, you're talking about beating Jalen

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01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 3: Hurts and then the fuck Boy Giants. You know, Cowboys

2229
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 3: look pretty good. Okay, you know what I'll say this, dude,

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01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 3: Dak fucking bald. I could not stand opening up social

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01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,839
Speaker 3: media this morning, in all of the for Tom Brady

2232
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 3: all over my goddamn phone. It's like, did you guys

2233
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 3: not see what Dak Prescott did last night?

2234
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:51,439
Speaker 1: Like, holy fucking.

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01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 2: Shit, stud, he was a stud.

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01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll say that, all right.

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01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 3: Maybe Washington won't win the NFC East, but I do

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01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 3: think they're going to start a better season by beating

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01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 3: the Chargers, and I like the money line minus one thirty.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with that, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, Luke, we are not proclaimed NFL experts

2242
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 2: of anything. Oh we don't know shit, I don't know much.

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01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 2: I am going to pick a family picks league every year,

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01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 2: every week. I've won that league more than anyone else

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01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 2: in there. So take that for what it's worth. But yeah,

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01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 2: don't don't trust us with your life savings. But hey,

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01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: if you got two hundred free dollars to work with

2248
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 2: as a new customer to DraftKings, it's worth It's worth

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01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 2: a little bit of a dabble there, Luke taking Washington

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Speaker 2: minus one and a half at home?

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Speaker 3: Okay, BC, so Thursday night, not last night, but next Thursday,

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01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 3: so the sixteenth. I know you don't really have like

2253
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 3: a football team in that way, but I think for

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01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 3: the show we should do a little wagering because that

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Speaker 3: Thursday on the sixteenth, the New York Giants, who are

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Speaker 3: something of a Connecticut team for folks who know what

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01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 3: the region looks like, are playing the Washington football team.

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01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 1: You should do some betting before that.

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01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm ready for that. I'll take on that. I'll take

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01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 2: on that I grew up with. I grew up in

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01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 2: Giants territory in Naugatuck, Connecticut. We didn't have Jets fans

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01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 2: or Patriots fans there. Okay, so I'll take that bet.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you put two hundred dollars down

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01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 2: on your bed of Washington minus one and a half,

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01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 2: that's a that's a payout of three eighty one eighty one. Luke,

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01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: that's not bad, man.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad. Yeah, I'll play on that one. I'll

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01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 2: get ready. Let me do a little homework, let me

2271
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 2: get ready for that shit. I'm gonna be watching the

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01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 2: games this weekend. Hope all of you will too. Put

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Speaker 2: a little action on that action with your friends here,

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01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: dkmk boukake. It's a it's a it's a messy relationship.

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Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes. Hopefully you know all the

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01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 2: details right there. All right, Luke, that's a fantastic show,

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01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 2: very efficiently hosted by one BC. Luke, do you have

2278
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 2: plans for the weekend? This is the part where we

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01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 2: can linger a little longer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because no one in my family or friends or

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01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 3: orbit watches the show. I actually have a surprise party

2282
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 3: for a friend in New York that I'm going to

2283
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 3: on Sunday. Oh wow wow, So up, up and back

2284
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 3: the same day because I need to be back for

2285
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 3: MK and my daughter needs to come back and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it should be fun.

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01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 2: I'll be writing a recap and appearing on CBS Sports

2288
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: HQ Saturday after the holy Field fight. Will you be

2289
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 2: watching live, Luke?

2290
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,639
Speaker 1: Unlikely? Maybe a little bit, but unlikely.

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Speaker 5: All right.

2292
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 2: I hope your family enjoys the Trump alternate feed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll be watching that one. We'll be

2295
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 3: skipping it, but I'd be curious to see how it goes.

2296
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he's gonna make it all about himself,

2297
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:21,959
Speaker 3: So this should.

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Speaker 1: Be a lot of fun, all right.

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Speaker 2: us for my trusted host in sidekick for now until

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Speaker 2: I turn on him. His name is Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell. Take care of your mental health. Please put

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Speaker 2: that first and foremost love y'all. Be safe, be happy,

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Speaker 2: enjoy the weekend. Two more words for you.

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Speaker 5: We out