1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October the twentieth and 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: the sixth year. Slow fall from grace for Prince Andrew 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: might be complete after he has now given up all 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: of his royal titles. However, still call him Prince and 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rose. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: We hear again there's a fascination with his story. This 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: is all Epstein related. But Prince Andrew giving up his 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: royal titles, He's still Prince Andrew though. That's the first 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: thing I think that came to a lot of people's mind. Well, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: you're not a prince anymore. Well, he is. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: He that's his birthright by just being born the son 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: of the queen. 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: He is a prince, but he is the hold one 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 3: of that forever correct. 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: But he is no longer the Duke of York, and 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: he will no longer be referred to as his Royal Highness, 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: And with that he has to relinquish a bunch of 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: other titles and positions that he was given over the years. 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: And most reports have been that this was pressure from 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: the King, and he even admitted discussions with the King, 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: But certainly there has been a lot of mounting public 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: pressure on him over the past six years, and certainly 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: with this book coming out, Virginia Geuphrey's book coming out 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 2: posthumously tomorrow. A lot of folks, I mean, this conversation 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: has never gone away, but it seems to have reached 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: a fever pitch. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: This is folks, as you know, Prince Andrew, it is 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: that the name besides Trump, this is a name of 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: the highest profile name. Now, let me be careful and 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: let me say this correctly. There is no one who 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: is accusing President Trump of anything any wrongdoing having to 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: do with any underage. 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: In fact, Virginia Jeffrey, who has obviously made these claims 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: against Epstein and certainly against Prince Andrew, has gone out 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: of her way and went out of her way to 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: praise President Trump. 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: So let me say that, and let us make sure 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: we get that clear. However, he has been dogged by 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: his affiliation with Epstein. Prince Andrew, however, is the other 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: in the highest profile name but Robes. He is accused 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: of criminal wrongdoing. 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Correct Virginia Giufrey has said repeatedly that she was loaned 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: over to him, so to speak, by Epstein at the 44 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: age of seventeen, but three specific times, and once when 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: she was seventeen. It was noted that seventeen is the 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: age of consent in the UK, and so was this 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 2: a crime or not. Regardless, it is not a good 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: look and certainly not anything that the royal family wants 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: to be a part of. 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Well was once was here in New York at Epstein's place, 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: his private island was another, and then London, I believe 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: was another place she said this took place, and she 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: names Prince Andrew. He hasn't faced any criminal charges related 54 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: to this, but as far as the public scrutiny being 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: essentially kicked out of the role of family for all 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: intents and purposes, and also the financial settlement, this has 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: dogged and will continue to dog him, and this now 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: robes it's it sounds like another big deal. It sounds 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: like another big whoopie dood that he is no longer 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: going to have these titles. But for all intents and purposes, 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily going to change the life he's been 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: living the past six years because he already gave up 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: royal duties. 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: Correct, So this is just another form of public humiliation, yes, 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: and that is what this is, a public reckoning so 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: to speak. It doesn't have any actual, yes, real life 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: impact on him, but certainly this is a big deal. 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: And look that he denies all of this, and even 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: with in relinquishing these titles, is still denying any involvement 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: with Virginia Geufrey. And there is a picture that has 71 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: been around for years now, and it was one that 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: she even actually showed me, but he claims it's a fake, 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: it's not real, but it's fairly undeniable. Anyone who wants 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: to go and look at this picture. He has his 75 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: arm around her. You see Gilaine Maxwell behind them. Everyone's smiling, 76 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: but she looks so young. 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: We say, go look at it. Looking with this picture 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: for years now, it's the picture that's always thrown in there. 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: But you have to be said, he has at every 80 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: turn said he has done absolutely nothing wrong. Now this 81 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: came back up and there's we're not finding or we're 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: not hearing it as much here in the US. When 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: big things happen with the royal family, it makes headlines 84 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: over there. It's a headline every single day that they're 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: covering this. And what's happened over there over the past 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: several days is that some yes, you have Virginia Duphra's 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: book coming out. But also we're now that they're actually 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: looking into some wrongdoing. Not the wrongdoing having to do 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: with sexual abuse, but the police over there are now 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: looking into a recent allegation that's come up. 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: That is correct, So they are looking into whether or 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: not Prince Andrew somehow asked a member of the police 93 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: force to get involved with basically making Virginia Dupray look bad, 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: a smear campaign, so to speak, behind this scenes when 95 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: he heard she was going to be speaking out and 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: speaking up about his alleged involvement with her and Jeffrey Epstein. 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: And so now because of this new report, it has 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: been confirmed that police over there are in fact investigating 99 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: whether or not this took place. 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: And again, what punishment might come from that? Nothing? Excuse me, 101 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I should say nothing compared to what could come from 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: something like a sexual abuse conviction of being hauled into 103 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: court for that. But this is still something they're looking into, 104 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: and it is new, and this is something Her book 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: is coming out tomorrow right because she needs to pray 106 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: the new book her memoir again, she died in April 107 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: of this year by suicide, but she mentions as well 108 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: in the book, at least excerpts we've seen that seems 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: to give some kind of credence to this idea that 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: he was trying to smear her. 111 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Correct and she said that in the book. 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: She claims that Prince Andrew's team tried to what she said, 113 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: higher internet trolls to hassle her online. So that's in 114 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: addition to perhaps even having a member of his security team, according. 115 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: To her, smear her behind the scenes. So that's all 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: a part of it. Now. 117 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: We will probably, I think we definitely will run out 118 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: and get her book tomorrow when it comes out, But 119 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: there have been several outlets that have had early release. 120 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: And they've been able to go through it. 121 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: And according to one UK paper, in her autobiography autobiography 122 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: that is released tomorrow that she makes eighty eight separate 123 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: references to Prince Andrew across the four hundred pages. So 124 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: he is a huge part of this book and a 125 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: lot of people are waiting to see what she says, specifically, 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: if there's anything different or more than what we've heard 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: publicly from her before the time of her death. 128 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: Well, these titles he's giving up again, I only hear 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: him refer to as Prince Andrew. But it's a very 130 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: big deal over there. He was called the Duke of York. 131 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: That was a title that was given to him by 132 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: his late mother, the Queen he is. I'm so or 133 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: put you on the spot. We can look at our 134 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: realth quick. He's younger brother of the king. But how 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: much younger is he than the king I can't remember. 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: But Prince Andrew is the younger brother of the king. 137 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: We talked about the titles that he is essentially giving 138 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: up there. There's all kinds of titles, and there's a 139 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: knighthood organization, the oldest order of Knights that he was 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: a part of. He's having to give that up. Yes, 141 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: that hurts you and that's pride and that's public shaming. 142 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: But to your point as well you said earlier, Prince, 143 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: that will not go away. Now the family does want it, 144 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the family of Virginia Juphray, they let it be known. Yeah, 145 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: we want the prince title taken away. I don't know. 146 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: It would take an act of Parliament and act to 147 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: charl get that from him as well. But that, like 148 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: you said, it's his birth right. 149 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: Yes, so he has now in conjunction with talking with 150 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: the King is agreed to obviously not use these titles. 151 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: But as you point out, he retains the dukedom, he 152 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: retains the title of the Earl of Inverness, the Baron 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: of I'm not gonna say this right, Billlay and the 154 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: prestigious role as Royal Knight Companion of the Order of 155 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: the Garter. And so they say that these titles are 156 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: going to become dormant. He still has them technically, but 157 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: he's agreed not to use them in any public way 158 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: or formally. So yes, an Act of Congress it would 159 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: require for him to be formally officially stripped of these titles. 160 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: So it is a matter of I guess, a technicality 161 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: so to speak, on British law. But yeah, we heard 162 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: from Virginia's family. They say we've actually got the statement 163 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: from them. We the family of Virginia Roberts Giuffrey, believe 164 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: that Prince Andrew's decision to give up his titles is 165 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: vindication for our sister and survivors everywhere. The decisive action 166 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: is a powerful step forward in our fight to bring 167 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein and Galley Maxwell's child sex trafficking network to justice. Further, 168 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: we believe it is appropriate for King Charles to remove 169 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: the title of print. 170 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: Again he is not necessarily allowed to do it on 171 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: his own, but still it's it's something they want. It's 172 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: symbolic at this point, he's not going to jail, right, 173 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: Continue with the humulation, continue to take things away from 174 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: him that they don't believe he has a right to. Now. 175 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: We found out about all of this a couple of 176 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: days ago through a statement from Prince Andrew himself and in 177 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: a statement in which he once again defended himself and 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: denied any wrongdoing. He said, and I quote, in discussion 179 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: with the King and my immediate and wider family, we 180 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: have concluded the continued accusations about me distract from the 181 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: work of His Majesty and the royal family. I have decided, 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: as I always have to put my duty to my 183 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: family and country first, I stand by my decision five 184 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: years ago to stand back from public life. And again, 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: he hasn't been a working royal, which is a big deal. 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: To not be a work His family goes around, doesn't. 187 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: That's what they do. That's the family business. 188 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: It is your responsibility. You do have a duty to 189 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: the royal Now to make it sound as if it 190 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: sounded noble. 191 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, So that's what people have been saying that 192 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: it's allowing him by not having the King or Parliament 193 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: or whomever strip him of these titles and allow him 194 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: to offer to give them up, gives him an opportunity 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: to claim that he's acted honorably, as. 196 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Crazy as it sounds, and saving some fight face. 197 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes, because now he is defending the monarchy by falling 198 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: on a sword, so he looks as if he is 199 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: now doing something for the family instead of actually being 200 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: punished by the family, So it's a different look. 201 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: He continued here with his statement, saying, with His Majesty's agreement, 202 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: we feel I must now go a step further. I 203 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: will therefore no longer use my title or the honors 204 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: which have been conferred upon me. As I have said previously, 205 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: I vigorously deny the accusations against me. And that was it. 206 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: A couple of lines, and that's it. That's over. When 207 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: we're going to see him again, we do not know 208 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: as far as the public events. Is the Christmas one 209 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: the only one he's a little no, the Easter one, 210 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: it's only one he's. 211 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: Allowed to and he has been invited to family gatherings 212 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: and weddings and all of those sorts of things. But look, 213 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: the papers in Great Britain have gone a stuff for 214 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: they're saying that when Prince William becomes king, things will 215 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: even get more difficult for Prince Andrew. That all remains 216 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: to be seen, but certainly there is a group of 217 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: folks who want that to happen, who think more should 218 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: be done, that he should be completely wiped away basically 219 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: from the public eye when it comes to the royal family. 220 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Just driving the royal family crazy. It's not like we 221 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: can just rip off the band aid get this done 222 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: in one scandal. It's like every couple of weeks or 223 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: months there's another drip, drip, And the latest drip was 224 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: the papers over there putting out this email between Prince 225 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein, allegedly between the two, which what 226 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: was the line he said in there? Oh my god, 227 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: it was a line he used in there that everybody said, 228 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: what the hell, Oh yeah, we're in this together. Yeah. 229 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: That was to light recently, which caused as you might imagine, Yes, 230 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: this was I believe months after he claimed that he 231 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: had stopped speaking to Epstein. The revelations had been made 232 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: about what Epstein actually had been up to in terms 233 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: of sex trafficking and miners and all of that. So 234 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: this is supposedly three months after he publicly distanced himself 235 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: from him and then sends him an email that says 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: we're in this together. That's fairly damaged. 237 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: So that's one of the things like here, it's it 238 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: didn't make necessarily the headlines. It's everything and everywhere over there. 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: And that's why there's been kind of this, I guess, 240 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: renewed outcry, this renewed backlash against the royal family against 241 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: Andrew that they now have made he and you. Obviously 242 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: he didn't just walk in and say, hey, guys, I 243 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: think I want to do this. 244 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 245 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Obviously he got pressure to do this. This wasn't just 246 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: on him. 247 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent. 248 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: And it's just been NonStop and they have been looking 249 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: for ways to further distance themselves and this is just 250 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: the latest. 251 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: I only know, you know what, I don't keep up 252 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: with it, and we in this country we keep up 253 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: with We have a fascination with the royals. 254 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: We do. 255 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: Obviously, I'm not sure how and why is it Robes 256 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: What was her scandal that when you say Duchess of York, 257 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: I always know who that is. 258 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: Fergie. 259 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, why I can't remember what her theme was, but 260 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: don't They all have the Duke of this, the Duchess 261 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: of that, and I don't know who's who, but I 262 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: always remember the Duchess of York as Sarah Ferguson. She 263 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: is no longer the Duchess of York because of this, 264 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: she is. 265 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: No longer the Duchess of York. But guess what, I 266 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: didn't realize this both Prince Andrew. I had to make 267 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: sure I could say Prince Andrew. PRIs Andrew and Fergie 268 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: still live in Royal Lodge. 269 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: It's a big house. 270 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Thirty years after they've been divorced. They are still but 271 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: they're thickest thieves like they really do. Still hang out 272 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: with one another. Obviously they have their two daughters together. 273 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: But there have been there has been much written about 274 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: how the King and other members of the royal family 275 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: have encouraged Prince Andrew and for Hey to move out 276 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: of I believe it's a thirty room Crown Estate property 277 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: in Windsor, Yes, Windsor Great Park, Yes, so their Royal 278 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: Lodge and Windsor Great Park, But they are still there, 279 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: They are still living there, and according to most he 280 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: is still a very wealthy individual. He was able to 281 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: sell a property that his mother, the Queen, gave him 282 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: as a wedding present for I guess fifteen million euros, 283 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: so whatever that amounts to a US dollars. So he's 284 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: gonna be okay regardless financially speaking, wherever it is he lives. 285 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: But right now he's still there. 286 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: But I just thought she it's where she loses that 287 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: title in all this. That's all I know her and 288 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: anybody else. 289 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm surprised did she still have it even after the divorce. 290 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how it works. 291 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Apparently still was still was the Duchess of York. I 292 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: don't know how it works over there either, But the 293 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: daughters do keep to keep their titles of princess as well, 294 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: which was interesting for them. 295 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,119 Speaker 3: That's got to be really tough. 296 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: What to have their dad be this guy, yes, okay. 297 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: Yes, and to be still mingling in a part of 298 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: the royal family and more of the four show roles. 299 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: And certainly they're there on the balcony you see Eugenie, 300 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: And I'm trying to think who the other Beutris. Yes, 301 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: we see them always alongside other members of the world heavily. 302 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's that's got to be a tough 303 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: position to be in. 304 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm how old of the girls now, I'm 305 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: asking about everybody's age, I'm how old I see them 306 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: every once in a while they show up at everything 307 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: seemed they. 308 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: Seem to be they're they're married and. 309 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, folks, stay with us here as 310 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: we continue looking up the ages and marital status of 311 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: the royal family. When we come back here, we'll tell 312 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: you more about Virginia Giuffrey's claims against Prince Andrew, more 313 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: about her book that's coming out, and Prince Andrew's life 314 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: now that he's given up the titles, what happens to 315 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: it now? All right, folks, we continue now with the 316 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: story of Prince Andrew giving up all of his titles 317 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: and honors, more backlash after his association with Jeffrey Epstein. 318 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: Of course, Epstein, the convicted sex offender, died by suicide 319 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: while awaiting trial here in New York. Of course, Klaiine 320 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: Maxwell is the only person in prison right now who 321 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: is serving any jail town has been punished for what 322 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: happened in Epstein's circle. Prince Andrew the other we're just 323 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: talking about him losing the titles, which means that his 324 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: ex wife Sarah Ferguson loses the title of Duchess of York. 325 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: The daughters keep the title of princess. And you were 326 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: saying they are moving on, doing okay for. 327 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: Their grown women. 328 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Princess Beatrice is thirty seven and is married. Princess 329 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: Eugenie is thirty five and married. So yes, they are 330 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: both going to still be called her Royal Highness princess, 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: So that is how they are still referred to, and 332 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: they will not lose any sort of title or any 333 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: sort of status within the royal family. 334 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: Now, Prince Andrew, we talked about here robes Idea and 335 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: we've been looking at this for quite a while. I 336 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: was trying to find anywhere somewhere where his life is 337 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: about to change, Like what now that this has happened, 338 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: there's more public humiliation. And again it was already there. 339 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: He had the epscene staying with them, he doesn't get 340 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: to go to family events. What is actually have you seen? 341 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: What have you seen that is actually going to change 342 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: in his life? That he is going to feel the 343 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: impact of this. 344 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: I can't. 345 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem as if much is other than he's 346 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: just further publicly humane and he's I can't imagine it's 347 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: a good thing for him to walk around and just 348 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: be noticed and that I'm sure he is very much 349 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: just low key at this point. There's no public outings 350 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: for him. The life he once had is gone, and 351 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: it's been gone for quite some time, and this is 352 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: just further humiliation to a already probably sheltered life. He 353 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: tried to do that interview in twenty nineteen and it 354 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: ended up blowing up in his face. He thought he 355 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: was going to save face and the thing as long 356 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: as he continues to deny even knowing Virginia Geufrey let alone, 357 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: having done anything untoward with her, and certainly denying that 358 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: this photograph is not real, it's just tough to have 359 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: any sort of way forward if you're denying and you 360 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: won't accept any responsibility. 361 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: I think that's the hard thing. 362 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: Like, on one hand, he's allowing all of these titles 363 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: to be stripped from him, he is going along with 364 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: all of that, and yet same time refusing to admit 365 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: any sort of behavior that contributed to this situation. 366 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: So therefore you can never go forward. He can never 367 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: move on. 368 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: Because he's denying everything and yet allowing certain punishments to 369 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: be put in place. 370 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: Those two things don't drive. 371 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: If you were absolutely innocent, you would fight to the 372 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: end to clear your name. 373 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: Is that what he's doing? I mean, he keeps denying. 374 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: I mean is that him fighting to the end. I 375 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: don't know. He's sixty five years old now. And to 376 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: your you maybe think of if you remember who said it, 377 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: please jump in. That was a quote from somebody in 378 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: the from the Royal office over there about what you 379 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: were saying. He keeps denying. He said, let me get 380 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: this right. He paid this much money to a woman, 381 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: he millions to a woman he never met, for something 382 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: he never did. It was supposed to be sarcastic like correct, correct, Hey, 383 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: all this money to somebody you never met for something 384 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: you never did. 385 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, right, it doesn't. It doesn't jive. 386 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: And I think obviously anyone who has looked into the 387 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 2: story even remotely could put those two things together. It 388 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: doesn't work. You don't pay someone millions of dollars, You 389 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: don't allow for all of your titles and very prestigious 390 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: honors to be taken away from you, and at the 391 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: same time say well, I didn't do it, but okay, 392 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: I'll write this check and I'll go away and go 393 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: into hiding, and I'll never ever be called your Royal 394 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: Highness again. I'll lose my dukedom. I mean, you just 395 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: wouldn't do those things. You wouldn't willingly do those things 396 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: if you were completely innocent. 397 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: And this is something he will never I mean, I 398 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: don't know what could possibly happen. I don't know he 399 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: could ever get away from There was a woman who 400 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: died by suicide this year who went to her grave 401 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: saying that Prince Andrew sexually abused her, but she was seventeen. 402 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: Years old, correct, And that book is coming out tomorrow 403 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: on Tuesday. Nobody's Girl is the name of the book 404 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: and one of the look again. We haven't read through 405 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: the book yet, looking forward to doing so tomorrow, but 406 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: one of the big lines that had been released by 407 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: many many news agencies is that she wrote before her death. 408 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: Drewfrey wrote that Prince Andrew acted as if he believed 409 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 2: having sex with me was his birthright. That was the 410 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: headline everywhere when certain excerpts started coming out from her book, 411 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: and that's one that he is not going to survive 412 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: in terms of just his role in the royal family. 413 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: Maybe this was part of it. Two, just getting ahead 414 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: of what's coming with his book, maybe that was a 415 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: part of it as well, But that he can't get 416 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: away from what was the thing here in New York. 417 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: Even in New York, they were the storage place. You 418 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: remember the sign o. Yes, it was safe, secure, with 419 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: minimal charges, just like Prince Andrew. This was like a 420 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: random Do you remembered that? Because it was everywhere. It 421 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: was shocking, it was that's not funny, even though it 422 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: is right. They made a joke. A Manhattan storage company 423 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: uses that. They do some playful ones. They are known. 424 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Was it Manhattan Storage. 425 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, yes, they love to have some fun with it. 426 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: They poke fun at a bunch of but that safe, 427 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: secure and with minimal charges, just like Prince Andrew. That 428 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: is what is chasing him. Right. Trump went over and 429 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: he's greeted by Epstein photos being put up on the 430 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: council and then over here you got this thing just 431 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: Epstein and his death. What was twenty nineteen. 432 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: Well, twenty nineteen was his death just to. 433 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: Think the impact he is still having anybody who was 434 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: in his orbit and how their lives have changed. But 435 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: as it, Prince Andrew is still Prince Andrew. But that's 436 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: the only title he still has. 437 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, even I do find it ironic though, 438 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: with Virginia writing about how he thought it was his 439 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: birthright to have heard basically he has now lost his 440 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: birthright pretty much in every other way in terms of 441 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 2: all of the titles and just the dukedom. I mean, 442 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: it's a huge, huge deal. This is another level of disgrace. 443 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: I believe they said that no royal family member has 444 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: been stripped of their dukedom. It's been over one hundred years, 445 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: so this is virtually unprecedented and certainly in modern times 446 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: to have a prince lose his titles the way Prince 447 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: Andrew has now official way. 448 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: We will continue to keep our eye on this story. 449 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: It is certainly still developing with the book out tomorrow, 450 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: but in the meantime, thank you so much for listening 451 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: to us everyone. 452 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: I'm Amy Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.