WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Does Shultz Need to Be at OTAs? 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.680 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:12.639 and the Dallas Cowboys Football club Boys. This is the 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:17.840 Player's Lab, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:23.280 the Star. No. Your hosts Bury Church. Danny mccraig and 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:29.840 NEWI scrugs. Here we are, Hey everybody, It's Monday here 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.839 Ota Monday for the Cowboys at the Star. They Bury Church. Yes, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.600 indeed we see we got the they got they got 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.839 little things set up. They get ready to go here. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.919 But yes, yes, church Church was on time, on time. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:45.639 I was the first one here to find me. Give 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.919 me the Tom Cofflin here. That's gonna be a lot. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.200 It may cost you a lot, but that Tom Coflin 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.040 he gonna come through with it. Or maybe I'll be 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.880 like Dalta Chelsea may start with suiting in coming in right, right, right, players, 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:01.200 you're gonna do half the the There's another week of 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:06.640 OTA stands for the Organized Team Activities aka the Voluntary 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:14.000 slash Man. Dalton Schultz is on a franchise tag. So 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:18.319 according to the NFL Network and um Calvin Watkins of 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.920 the Dallas Wanting News, John mac Children, the athletics just 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:22.720 a couple of people are also reporting it as well. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.480 So Schultz is not coming into this week's OTAs because 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.600 he does not have a contract. He's upset with the 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.080 talks right now. Though he did say earlier I'm gonna 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.120 let my agent handle it. I guess now he's not 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:41.080 happy with days to handle right. Agent doing enough here, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.399 So so he's not coming in. Yeah, um, that's his prerogative. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.320 I hope fans understand this is where you come in 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:56.000 very safety, that this is not mandintory. Next week is 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.880 man into. Yes, you will get fined if you're not 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.600 at mandatory minicamp. They have the right to find you. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.720 I don't know what you know. The numbers are on 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.400 those fines, but they can't get steep as the days 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.680 go on. But when we get back to Dalton Shoultz, 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.160 I don't I don't blame him. I don't blame him 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.919 for saying, you know what, I don't have a deal finalized. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.200 I don't want to go out there and we all 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.680 know risk injury for something that's not guaranteed. I understand 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:22.120 why wait before I say that is the franchise tad guaranteed, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.519 like once you signed that franchise. But he had just 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:29.919 to sign it. Sign it, come look I keep and 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.360 you know Twitter will start hitting it and they'll all 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.800 you people always like to bash the players. You don't 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.400 have to be here. It's voluntary. And it's not like 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.480 Dalton Shoultz is a rookie. You know, this is the 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.840 guy he's going on the offense, not even coordinator here, 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:46.880 not a new quarterback here. You know what to do, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.440 you know, And he had an explosive season last year. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:50.959 You know, I was the one doubting him. I was 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.359 the one saying, all, he can't do it, but he 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:53.880 proved me wrong last year. And he was kind of 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.560 that security blanket for Dak Prescott. So it's not like 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.480 he has to be here and don't show. Doesn't seem 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.560 like a guy to me at least I don't know 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.280 him personally, but to me at least, he doesn't seem 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.120 like a guy that goes out there and he's not 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.200 gonna be working out. He's gonna be you know, drinking 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.120 party and all the time and coming in out of shape. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.520 He knows what, he knows what to stake. This is 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.040 a big year for him. Last year he knew what 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.720 was at staking. Look what happened he had one of 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.680 his best seasons as a pro. So to me, it's 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.640 it's he's gonna come in here, he's gonna be in shape, 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.960 he's gonna know what to do. So to me, missing 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.040 these OTAs and all that stuff, it's not you know, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.040 it's not a huge deal when it comes to Dunton Show, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.040 because I think he'll become he'll come back prepared and 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.880 ready to roll. Wants it's mandatory. It's a couple of 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:40.480 practice in exactly, Okay, exactly, I tell you, man, there 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:45.840 are days where I can't look at Cowboy Twitter, Cowboy 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:50.080 Nation Twitter, something like, really, this is the man doesn't 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.000 have to be here. He wants to contract. Now, I'll 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.800 say this, what kind of contract you want? I assume 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.680 he wants to be, you know, one of the top 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.400 five pay tight ends in the league. That's what I 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.080 would assume. So I'm gonna just give you just a 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:08.000 kind of a barometer here. Okay, David and Juco other 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.200 he just got broke out. But four years, fifty six 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:16.520 point seventy five million dollars contract, twenty eight million dollars guaranteed. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.719 God though, that's that's that's what that's what like twenty. 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.440 So the other two, you know, guys who got tagged 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.080 like Jissecki down there in Miami and then Dalton Shoults 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.520 of the Cowboys. Now are we and this is my 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.520 finger sohol this is why I was like, I don't 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.600 know because you name then Joku and gets in Jisecki. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.200 Those are two guys, well Joker got paid, but they 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.160 haven't been signed. There tagged but han't been time. And 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.600 the difference between to me is between Jisecki and Shultz 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.440 is is basically a wide receiver. You can't split. You 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.080 can't block. These dudes can't. They can't block. And he 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:52.640 can go out there. You can split him out and 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.400 he can and I think in my opinion, he can 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.280 win those one on ones. Like he can go out there, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.560 if he's locked up on a corner safety, it doesn't matter. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.279 He can go up and get the ball and he 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.640 can do some damage in the passing game. Shultz he 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.400 can do it as well, But I don't think he's 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.960 that level to where he like Ja seki Is. I 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.200 think Shoultz is more of a security blanket. Get you five, 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.400 gets you ten yards, But I don't see him as 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.400 a deep, big threat, deep threat defensives are gonna focus 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.360 it on him, and you gotta make sure you handle 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.360 him first. I don't see him as that type of guy. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.120 So does that warrant a huge contract? You know? I don't. 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.280 I don't know. I don't think he's as dynamic as 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:26.839 in a Joku, as a jes Seki is, as a kiddo, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.479 as a as a Kelsey. I don't know. I don't 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.320 see I see him as maybe a middle of the road, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.880 tited who is I say him above average. I'll give 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.680 him top maybe top fifteen in the league, top ten. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.760 So so I'll go back into Blake Jarwin, for instance, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.960 who was the starter before he got hurt and then 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:47.359 Schultz got his opportunity took it took before injury, and 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.559 obviously injuries are part of him. Was Schultz better than Jarwin? 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.720 I don't think he was. They basically the same guy. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.039 He was basically saying because to me, you know, I 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.200 thought Jarwin had a lot of potential. I thought Jarwin 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:00.760 was gonna come in here and be that, you know, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.200 be the sceams guy down the scenees deep threat. You 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.679 can split him out and do all that good stuff, 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:08.800 kind of like a yes, yes, exactly, but he never 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.880 turned into Kelse. He was more of a Gavin Escobar 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.200 um as far as that situation goes. So I say 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.040 Schultz ended up being better than than job in the 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:24.600 world of economics today. Okay, would it be easier for 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:31.000 you to get another Schultz type guy in free agency 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.320 for a year and then go into the draft next year? 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.520 I think so with significant savings. When you start to 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.640 think about, Okay, if in Joko is the type of 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.159 contract and you're the agent is trying to get the 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.800 same type of deal, are you really ready to do 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:50.719 that for a tight end? And are you sure the 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.680 offensive coordinator and the head coach are going to be 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.880 back here next year? You're not sure about that. You're 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.599 not sure because like there's a lot of pressure on 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.640 a lot of people this year. And if the job's 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.039 not done, that head guy's gonna be out of here 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.560 and the new guy company is gonna probably want a 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.400 new OC and all that did in the offense is 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.480 gonna change. Are they gonna the new OC gonna be 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.520 into a tight end? I mean one of the things exactly. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.520 And I go back into this about Mike McCarthy and 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.840 I've kind of had this disagreement at times with people 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.000 who get mad about the Zeke contract. I say this, 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.400 Zeke was signed when you had a head coach who 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.760 believed in the running game. Then you go out, you 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.320 hire a head coach who's never been about the running game, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.680 who's been a passing coach. You're mad at the player. 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:31.880 He's falling, ain't it ain't the player. I mean, yes, 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.160 he might have lost his step, but he's not he's 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.400 not getting opportunities he once was. I mean he was 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.440 getting twenty some carries a game. Now we've seen a 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.320 couple of games this year where he had maybe twelve 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.000 ten years. He's blocking more than he's running the road. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.000 I go back to this is way, way way old 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.960 school NBA. It's when the Nicks hired Don Nelson to 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.920 be the head coach and Patrick Ewingl was the center. 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.080 That one what Nellie did. Nellie wasn't trying to run 0:07:54.080 --> 0:08:00.440 the office all right down down, That's not what they did. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.520 Patrick is pounding the ball and goes That's not what 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.440 don Nelson did. So it was not a fit. So 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.960 we have seen depending on who the head coach is, 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.040 it's going to affect players. Zekiel Elliott has not seen 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.640 the kind of carries he did under a Jason Garrett 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.320 Where I mean, you think about Jason Garrett, DeMarco Murray, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.440 NFL offensive player Belle Kyle Back, you know, won that 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.640 award and then he saw Zeke went in Russian titles. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.480 That's probably not gonna happen in the Mike McCarthy slash 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.080 Kelly Moore offense, especially when he's also splitting time with 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.160 a Tony Pollo. So are going back here to Shultz 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.920 circling back here? Are you going to make commit to 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.360 the kind of dollars that in Joko did and you 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.960 may not you make who knows where your offense is 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.400 going to be in the year? Yeah? Who know? Because 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.080 we like right now Kelly Moore, he know, he loves 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.080 his you know, tight end sets, his twelve personnel Hill 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.200 sprinkles from Levin in there as well. But to me, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.400 I see it kind of like I said Wilson. You know, 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.760 we weren't willing to give, said Wilson, that long term 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.360 deal and we wouldn't got a guy in a draft. 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.520 I think we could have done that same thing with shows. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.719 I don't think, and I could be wrong because I've 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.320 been wrong in the past, But I just don't think 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.200 he's that dynamic of a player to where it doesn't 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.440 matter to scheme he can just ball out. I don't 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.680 think he. I think he's scheme matters when it comes 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.680 to Schultz. Obviously we don't know what the number is 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.880 that Dalton Schultz wants and why he's sitting at the 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.640 OTA say, but obviously he's frustrated by because several reports say, Okay, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.520 not not enough movement here, I want a long term deal. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.559 Do you think he is he that player that can 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.960 get a long term deal? Like I can see, like 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.920 if you said, if if everything was in concrete as 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.040 far as coaches are concerned, I can see that. But 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.120 it's so so much independent air right now. McCarthy's, I mean, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.040 he gotta get the job done or he's more than 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.120 likely gonna be out of here. Okay, I'm gonna ask 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.240 you this because you're former safety, so you know what 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:49.199 it is about. Checking tight ends. Is Dalton Schultz Jimmy 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:53.120 John's used the word difference maker or is he the 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.480 word that Bill Parcels used to say, Jack just a 0:09:56.559 --> 0:10:01.000 guy meaning I can go find another guy to give 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:04.679 me similar production. Maybe he's not doing it as well 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.360 as you, but he can get this done. Jimmy. When 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.720 you talk about difference makers, hey, this sky makes a 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.040 difference when we go out on Sundays. This is a 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.160 guy that a coordinator is all right, but here's eighty seven. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.520 Brady's looking for eighty seven. Here's this red zone. Are 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.160 we talking about that kind of guy? See that. That's 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.480 a tough one because shots. I don't want to disrespect 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.600 him to say he's just another guy because he did 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.520 ball out last year. He had he had a good 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.400 season last year. I think he had about eight touchdowns 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:34.599 in the red zone and he was kind of that 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.280 security blanket. Like I said, But when you talk about 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.400 difference maker, when you talk about a guy at defenses, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.160 you go into that meeting on Monday and he's highlighted 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.400 on the board as offensive guys we have gat to 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.520 keep our eye on. Last year, I don't think he 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.280 was that guy that was highlighted. I believe defenses were 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.120 focusing more on a Mauri Cooper, Cede Lamb, Michael Gallop 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.600 out there stopping the run that we wish we would 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.520 have pad. But I think Schultz's Moore four third or 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.280 fourth on that list. Now going into this year, there 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.600 is Noham More Cooper, Michael Gallup. He's going to be 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.840 out for the first couple of games, probably more than likely. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.079 And now you gotta Ceedee Lamb and Adult and Shoultz 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.320 so he can become one of those guys that are 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.800 highlighted on the defensive board come Monday morning that we 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.000 gotta stop this guy to make this offense become stagnant. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.000 But as of right now, if we're talking about last 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.040 year and going into this year, I would have to 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:28.160 lean more towards being a little bit above a jag 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.920 because he made some outstanding plays last year. But like 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.560 I said, I would be shocked if I went into 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.600 one of those defensive meetings and they had Sholts had 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.559 you gotta stop this guy. We don't stop this guy. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.160 Their their offense is going to explode on you gotta 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.960 have them on there, because if you look at it, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.720 if you lost the tape last year of the game, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.040 you know there was linebackers on them. There was you know, 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.120 random safeties here and there on them. There wasn't that 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.280 specific lockdown guy on Sholts, and he took advantage of it. 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.280 I'll give him that he took advantage. So then he's 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.280 not a difference maker. He's not. No, in my opinion 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.040 right now, he's not a different So if you're taking 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.079 that off the table, that's what you're trying, and you're 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.839 talking about franchise tag, long term deal, you're paying difference makers. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.079 We need to keep this player. I was supprised them, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.480 to be honest with you, I'm surprised I didn't have 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.199 an issue with the tag. Now, okay, let's go to 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.040 first off, Let's put the numbers out here. For Carlton 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:19.320 Schultz played seventeen games last year, had seventy eight catches, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.920 second on the team. Ceedee Lamb led the team with 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.520 seventy nine catches in sixteen games. Dalton Schultz tied Amari 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:32.480 Cooper in terms of touchdown leaders the receiver position eight 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.000 eight touchdowns. Okay, so Schultz was there at eight hundred 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.040 and eight yards, that's third on the team. Ceedee Lamb 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.760 had a thousand, basically eleven hundred yards. Maria Cooper in 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:45.280 fifteen games had eight hundred and sixty five yards. Shultz 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.000 in seventeen games had eight hundred and eight yards. So 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.120 we're talking about production from a tight end. They got 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.040 production there, but let's be honest as well, when you 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.800 starts looking down the list of who you're trying to stop, 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.240 if you're a defensive coordinator, he wasn't in the top 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.040 three of the cowboys, you know, receiving or even when 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.160 you're adding the run game, and he wasn't. And then 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:08.920 a lot if you watch it, a lot of the 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.000 times we're in the red zone, they were kind of 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.320 a schemy plays like oh, he's gonna block block release, 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.640 or he's gonna cross the field and try to get 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.439 a pick from somebody. It wasn't like how you look 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.199 at Kelsey, how you look at those guys where they're like, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:21.800 all right, split him out there. I don't care who's 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.360 on him. It could be the number one corner on 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:24.959 him out there. We're gonna do one on one and 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.520 I'm gonna throw it up to my guy and see 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.440 what he can do. I didn't see a lot of 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.360 that from the dumping shows, you know. I saw a 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.120 lot of you know, cross and he got picked out 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.040 here and there maybe a tight end screen and he 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:35.720 was able to make a couple of guys missing getting 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.120 the end zone, which is still a good thing. But 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.560 to me, if you're talking about paying a man top dollar, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.360 he's got to be dynamic enough to where you're gonna 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.920 be like, you know, I don't care who's on you 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.040 on the outside, You're gonna go out there. You're gonna 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.080 win your one on one battles. And I just didn't 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.880 see that. And so there's there in lies the where's 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.319 the age and we don't know yet, but where's the 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.840 age coming from? Or what is he looking for? And 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.640 what is what is the team saying okay, this is 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.079 what's one worked for us. That's the challenge. But obviously 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.839 right now by schultzet deciding okay, I'm not going to 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.000 come to OTAs this week, I'm frustrated. That's not It's 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.840 all right too, because like you said, it's voluntary, it's 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.120 not it's not uncommon. We saw Zach Martin do the 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.080 that's just something we've seen happen before. I have no 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:22.200 issues with that. It's just about where where is the 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.920 right spot for the number and joke who's number? We 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:26.240 kind of look at that and just say, no, no, 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.760 that's not gonna happen. And I mean the joke was dynamic, 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.080 but they got a guy underneath him, and who's who's 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.560 pretty good as well. So I was also surprised on 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.080 that one. So let me give you a number within 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:43.000 the division. Dallas Goddard of Philadelphia four years, fifty seven 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.400 million dollars, which included a ten point two million dollars 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:50.560 signing bonus um and thirty five million dollars gar average 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:55.600 salary of fourteen point two million dollars. Dallas Goddard is 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.760 twenty seven years old, and this year he'll um he's 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.520 got cat number four point two mills. But I just look, 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.440 I look at him, and I just say, it's a 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:13.200 good player. He's not a difference maker. Yeah, I would 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.360 say he's not, I mean a good player. So are 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.640 you prepared to give Schultz a four year deal in 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.520 the fifty seven million dollars range and giving him, you know, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.120 thirty five or twenty million dollars? I mean, this is 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.040 where you're sitting at here, man, this is the number 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.600 and that you could say, NEWI, this is the price 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.960 of doing business right now for tight ends. Do you 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.920 want to pay that to me? Personally? You know, if 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.560 you look, if I'm the GM of the Cowboys, I'm 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.480 in Will's position, I'm in you know, Jerry's position. I 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.560 just don't. I wouldn't do it. And the reason I 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.200 say that is because I feel like you can find 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.280 that in the draft, or you can you can find 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.000 you can get a one year tight end to come 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.280 in here and do with Dalton Schultz has been able 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.720 to do. I mean, I maybe if he was more, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.280 if he had a couple of years back to back 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.400 where he was putting up eight hundred yards and eight 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.720 touchdown and we've seen it, but this year is going 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.640 to be a big barometer for him. If he's able 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.320 to go out there once again and display the ability 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.320 that he was able to do last year, then maybe 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.200 we come back to the table when we think about this. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.160 But I got to see more than just one year, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.920 and he had so much talent around him in that 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.080 one year to where he was able to exploit the 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.840 third or fifth you know option defensively to guard him. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:24.800 He was able to exploit that. So if he's able 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:26.560 to come out here and do that those numbers again 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.120 this year with just basically Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.680 coming off a cl and then you got a rookie, 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.720 you know, Jayalen Tolbert out there as well. A lot 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.000 of the pressure will be on shows to go out 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:37.560 there and do what he does. So if he's able 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.800 to do that next year, I could see them maybe 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.480 coming back to the table. I'm a big fan of 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.560 Mark Andrews, going back to when he was in Oklahoma 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.000 catching pastors, Baker Mayfield. He's there in Baltimore right now, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.280 pro Bowl type player. Four years, fifty six million dollar 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.680 contract he got with the Ravens, thirty eight million, thirty 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.760 seven point five million guaranteed. So if Schultz is looking 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.680 for this kind of number, and this is where people 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:02.960 like Mark Andrews or Mike said Mike but the Dallas 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.359 got it or at Man, that's gonna be, that's gonna be, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.439 that's that's that's I don't see them doing that based 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.920 on just how Look they had issues paying Mark Cooper 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.280 twenty million. Yeah, and here's a guy who's been a 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.320 Pro Bowl player. I don't know how they're gonna get 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.600 to this. I don't mean with with him with Dalton Schultz. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.359 So I think this this guy just may be frustrated. Here, Uh, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.159 Travis Kelsey four years fifty seven million dollars contract, twenty 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.200 two million guarantee, sir, and he signed his a couple 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.840 of years ago, fifty some round. Is he is? He? 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:35.920 Is he that? You know? That's the thing I can't. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.399 I can't kind of grasp my mind around because I 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.000 look out there and I see what he's able to 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.400 do on the football field, and I just see him 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.600 as a he'd have to prove it. Yes, he would 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:45.960 have to go out to improve it. Again, go go, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.320 this is this is what this was. The franchise tag is. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.080 If you ask to Marcus Lawrence to play on it, 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.320 who had Dak Prescott play on it exactly? Sorry, buddy, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.000 you gotta do it. I know you had a hell 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.960 of a season last year, but this is how to 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.240 game where we've had guys who've made the Pro Bowl 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.320 play exactly exactly. So you can't you know, he can't 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.639 expect Why am I not getting paid? All these guys 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.439 had to go through it. You can't expect to be different, 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.240 especially when those guys like you mentioned Pro Bowl players, 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.040 all Pro players still had to play on the tag. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.359 Guys who are in the premier positions in the league 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.880 to get paid. We're talking about d ND quarterback. I mean, 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.320 this is we can't talk about tight end. Now, this 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.800 is just right there. If Dak had to do it, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.720 if Tank had to do it, Sorry buddy, you gotta 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.600 do it, Sorry buddy. It is what it is. It 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.600 is what it is. So we're talking about Mica or 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.639 something that that's a different story, because I mean, that 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.320 guy has already proven to be one of the top 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.600 defenders in the National Football League. Speaking of Michael Parsons, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.160 let's take a break here on on the Players Labs 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.719 will dive into Michael Parsons and his thoughts on rookie 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.200 Tyler Smith and also his thoughts on Tank Lawrence. Get 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.760 into that and we'll remember, um, what are the good 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.080 Cowboy players? The good guys. Marian Barber is the third 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.240 who passed away last burying Barry Church and respects players 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.560 ons by you by Hotels dot com or das Cowboys 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.880 dot Com Radio. At Smoothie King, we are blending goodness 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.920