1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: You have a migraine or something. Um, I don't get migraines. 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. I don't either. You just knocked on 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, there's no wood nearby. I bet this 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: is woodish. Yeah. Yeah, we're good. Um do you put 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: us together? And you've got a little podcast called Stuff 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: you Should Know? That's right. Yeah, you've been doing this 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: for four and I we bet we're very close. So 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: not bad. I know it's not bad. We're I guess 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: you could say we're um, we're starting to get our stride. 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Wait for someone to come take the keys away and 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: send me in my room. And I think that this 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: is I think they stopped paying attention. They're not really 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: aware that we're doing this any longer. Any importance actually listen, 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: So that's always good. But who listens is important? That's right. 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: That's a good point. So, Chuck, you ever seen the 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: movie Scarface? Yeah? You know, like the whole beginning part 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: where he comes to Miami from Cuba. So that was 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: based um on an actual historical event called the Merriel 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: boat Lift. Yeah, I think I knew that. So between um, well, 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: then sit back and listen up to something you already know. 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Between April fifteen and Halloween, a hundred and twenty five 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: thousand Cubans we're basically allowed to leave Cuba. That's a lot. 27 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: And they were also allowed to enter the United States 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: for how long was there a window like from April 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: to um Halloween? So yeah, there are a lot, I 30 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: mean a lot of them came um and a it was. 31 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: It was a huge deal. They basically put everybody in jail. 32 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: Remember the Fulton County Federal Penitentiary where Scarface was the 33 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: real Scarface al Capone, um, just down in Grant Park. 34 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: They put a bunch of them there and there was 35 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: actually an uprising there and Delta Force had to come 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: in I think, and the Delta Force, um, so uh, 37 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: it was kind of a big deal. One of the 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: reasons why they put everybody in jails because they wanted 39 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that Castro wasn't just sending over the 40 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: dregs of his prisons. So, which would have been pretty smart. Yeah. 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: So they actually interviewed everybody, and twenty three thousand of 42 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: them confessed to having a criminal record back in Cuba. 43 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: And that's really saying something because you know, it's not 44 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: like Cuba was going to send over these people's records. 45 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: Like this was self confessed. And I think that right 46 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: there basically kind of tells you about that person they're 47 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: trying to fit in. Right, Well, they let me come 48 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: clean exactly. Maybe if I come clean, you I can 49 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: stay here. Right, Yeah, let's say that that's what it was. 50 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. Um. So, of these twenty three thousand, though, 51 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: they found that, um, only two percent were actually criminals 52 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: under US law. The other uh, let's see twenty one thousand, 53 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty four. Uh, that's just off the 54 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: top of my head, Um, we're we're criminals under Cuban law. 55 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: That that didn't have some sort of analog here in 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: the United States. I wonder what some of those laws were. 57 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine they would have a lot to do 58 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: with discent, political discent, yea, probably everything, or like hoarding, 59 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: uh items hoarding, Yeah, like you know, under communist rule, 60 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: if you toilet paper or you've got some smuggling operation 61 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: going for toilet paper. How swapping apparently is illegal in Cuba, 62 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: because they're like, we're gonna give you a house, but 63 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you which one it is. Um anyway, 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: So most of these people were allowed to go free, 65 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: and even some of them were allowed to go even 66 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: some of the actual criminals were allowed to go under 67 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: what's called immigration parole um. And then of those forty 68 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: six who were found to be real criminals, eight hundred 69 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: to nine hundred had to come back to jail, the 70 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: real pokey this time because they've broken the US law 71 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: while on immigration parole. But my point is this, without 72 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: criminal records, I would not have had this intro. That's 73 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: pretty good. I had a feeling that was going to 74 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: circle around like that, because we're talking about criminal records, 75 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: at least here in the United States. Yeah, and when 76 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: we say records, we don't mean the good time. We 77 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: mean like files. Yeah, not like a break, you broke 78 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: a record, or like let's listen to a record. Yeah, 79 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: those are good records. Yeah, there's a there's I can't 80 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: remember what Lisa's doing on the Simpsons, but she has 81 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: to go to the Hall of Records and then under 82 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: underneath and Parnses says, not a good kindly, that's good. Um, 83 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: all right, criminal record here in the US, at least 84 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: as and I didn't realize this, It starts with your arrest. Yes. 85 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: For some reason, I thought if you were arrested and 86 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: not convicted, then they would just say forget about it. Yeah. 87 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: Apparently once you have a charge and there are ways 88 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: for they can say forget about it, but you have 89 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: to go ask and they can tell you now because 90 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: they don't like your looks. Um. There's a few ways 91 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: these are used here in the States. Um. First and 92 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: foremost obviously to help out trying to catch bad guys 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: in the database, I ding suspects. That's kind of the 94 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: original point, I think. So. Um. They're also used for 95 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: sentencing now, which makes sense. Yeah, because like if you've 96 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: done something before and they know it, they have a 97 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: record of it, it's right they can say, you know what, 98 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: due to your past behavior, we think that we should 99 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: really throw the book at you, right, or if there's 100 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: like a three strike law, they have to Yeah, background checks, 101 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: that's the third thing there mainly used for. This is 102 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the most controversial use of criminal records because with background checks, 103 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: if you enter the military, try to get a job 104 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: with the FBI, UM, if you are involved in elderly 105 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: or childcare. Um. Criminal background checks are pretty standard, but 106 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: they're also becoming increasingly used by corporations in what is 107 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: widely considered overbroad ways. Yeah, because the the original idea 108 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: of using a background check, a criminal background check for 109 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: a job was that they're checking that you're applying for 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: like a delivery driver job, and they're checking to make 111 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: sure that you don't have a history of like running 112 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: down the elderly with your car and driving off because 113 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: they'll get sued for that. Well, now companies are just 114 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: looking for any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever. And as 115 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: we'll see, they actually say like, no, we're not gonna 116 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: hire you because of your criminal record. They can discriminate 117 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: based on a criminal record, but you can also not 118 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: share that criminal record. You can correct Yes, okay, we'll 119 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: get to that. Um. Back in the day, obviously they 120 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: used to just handwrite these things, keep them at your 121 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: local cop shop. And that's why back in the day, 122 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: it was really easy if you're criminal, just to move 123 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: to a different state or city. Yeah, and like you're 124 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: sort of getting a fresh start online. Yeah, because if 125 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: you wanted to share this criminal record, you might have 126 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: to sit down and hand write it out. And who 127 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: wants to do that. Nobody not me. Basically, it was 128 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: just medieval monks who were cool with doing that and 129 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 1: they didn't have anything else to do. Cops had plenty 130 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: of other stuff to do. So right about now, if 131 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: you're out there in podcast land and you're listening to 132 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: this and you think, dudes, why are you telling us, 133 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: you're awesome audience about criminal records, Because we're all have 134 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: clean noses and we're do gooders of the world, I 135 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: believe you. But here's a set. Six point five percent 136 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: of the US population has a felony record. Felony record, 137 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: which is higher than I thought it would be, and 138 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: one in fifteen people have actually been to prison in 139 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: the pokey in the pokey and uh, I think our 140 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: fan base would be on the lighter side of that. Um, 141 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: But hey, I know we've got people out there that 142 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: have been in prison because we did prisons. People rotus. 143 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: We have people out there who were in prisons right now. Yeah, 144 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that's right. Let's do a little shout out to our 145 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: prison population. Listeners, everybody in there, stay up and uh 146 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: hanging there, get out soon. Okay. So even beyond that 147 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: surprising stat right, six point five percent felonies, right, that's right, 148 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: sixty five million, which is about a quarter of the 149 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: American population. Sixty million American adults have a criminal record, 150 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: which means they've at least been arrested. Yes, do we 151 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: need to talk about anything in our past? You know, 152 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: I don't talk about that, Okay. Uh, there are some 153 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: things if you do have a criminal record, that are 154 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: that are going to be there for the for the taking. 155 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: If you're in law enforcement, that is pretty much your name, 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: date of birth, alias, is what you look like, what 157 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: you're built like, where you live, what you've done, if 158 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: you've got any outstanding warrants, if you've been convicted, and 159 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: then the old stand by fingerprint and mug shot. It's 160 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: all right there. Basically what's keeping smoking gun dot com alive? 161 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: That mug shot to do the huffer with the gold face. 162 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that guy? He was arrested for 163 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: huffing and he's got like the glittery gold spray paint 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: around the nose and mouth. Now, my favorite was either 165 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Nick Nolty or James Brown and they look like brothers 166 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: in their mug shots. Yeah, those are pretty close with 167 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: a crazy hair. Um. So basically you can see just 168 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: from those details of what's in a criminal record. The 169 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: idea behind them is we want to find now who 170 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: you are and what you've done before. Ye, And that's 171 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: pretty much it. It's aside from the fact that they're 172 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: not handwritten and just kept like you say, at the 173 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: local precinct, um anymore, they're stored on databases. That's the 174 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: idea behind them hasn't changed much over the century, very true. Um. 175 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: It starts at the local and state level. And if 176 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: you are going to have an arrest record or a 177 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: or a criminal record, that's who was in charge of 178 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: keeping up with it, Like if it was a state crime, 179 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: it was in a federal offense, then your state court 180 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: and state offices who's going to be in charge of that? 181 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: And then they can either report it to their repository 182 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: or not. I think not all states mandate that. No, 183 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: it's voluntary. And then the state repositories can either report 184 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: it to the national repository, right or I'm sorry, that's 185 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: voluntary within a state. In some states, it's voluntary whether 186 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: municipalities share their information. So it's all kind of voluntary, 187 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: right if you end up on a federal registry to 188 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: an extent, and you can have more than one record. Um, 189 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: I would imagine in a perfect law enforcement world, everyone 190 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: has everyone who has a record has one record and 191 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: it lives in the cloud and it's just accessed. You know, 192 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: when you do another thing, they just add another thing 193 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: to it. But from from the sound of this, you 194 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: can have a bunch of different records and they could 195 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: all have different stuff in them and maybe they'll never 196 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: be compiled into one. That's true. Well, it's because there's 197 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people commit crimes, is one reason, is there? 198 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: And I think they're trying or does it disappear that 199 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: way because they have multiple records, I think we may 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: have stumbled onto something. You're right, there's only like eight 201 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: criminals in the US. They're just really prolific. So, UM, 202 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: the good news, Josh, if you have a criminal record 203 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: and you want it expunged or sealed as they call 204 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: it in some states, Uh, you can get that done 205 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: if you go through You can at least try to 206 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: get it done by going through very specific process in 207 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: the court in the state where you were convicted. So 208 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: you have, UM, you petition the court, and there's there's 209 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: lawyers that um specialize in this kind of thing, like 210 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: going before the court and saying, look, this guy, this 211 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:22,239 Speaker 1: crime was a crime of passion. There's no recitativism involved. 212 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: That this guy has had an exemplary life since then. Um, 213 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't even convicted, he was just arrested. This was 214 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: twelve years ago. He hasn't done a single horrible thing. Um, 215 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: and even if he had, if he had had a sentence, 216 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: he would have completed it. And um, he hasn't hadn't 217 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: been arrested since. And so the judge thinks about it. Uh, 218 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: they bring out a dog and if the dog likes you, 219 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: then your record is expunged. I think the judge sits 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: are the big expunged stamp or denied like in raising 221 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: Arizona just wham. Yeah. I think the expunged is the 222 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: isn't a don't think they should use that word because 223 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: it gives the impression that your record is white clean, yeah, 224 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: and that there's maybe a sheet of paper that the 225 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: stuff all used to be on, but there's nothing there 226 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: any longer. It's not the case sealed is a much 227 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: better term to describe what happens, because what happens is 228 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: your record remains, but only law enforcement has access to it. Yeah, 229 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: but it sort of is expunged in a way because 230 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: or I guess the key word there, you said the appearance, 231 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Because you can still from that point on give the 232 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: appearance that you have a clean record to your employees. 233 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: You can say employers, you can un employees. You don't 234 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: want them thinking ill of you, but you can say 235 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: I have a clean record, and legally you can say 236 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: that and get away with it. Yeah, if it's expunged, 237 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: although it still exists, it's just a law enforcement and 238 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: also um government agencies have access to it, but no 239 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: one else does. If you're in Arizona, you're our luck. 240 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: If you're in New York, I think and see the 241 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: to me should be automatic. If you are arrested and 242 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: convicted of something, then they found out someone else did it, right, 243 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: you have to still go through that process in New 244 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: York to get it expunged. And I guess in other places, 245 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: but I figured that would be automatic. No, in New York. 246 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: If you're arrested and you are UM not not you're 247 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: not convicted, you go to trial, but you're not even convicted, 248 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: you still have to petition to get your arrest record cleared. Yeah, 249 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: I guess that's everywhether right. Um. I am under the 250 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: impression because New York where it's possible only if the 251 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: case was decided in your favor, that that would mean 252 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: that if you were if you went to trial, your 253 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: criminal record would be expunged if you weren't convicted. I 254 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: have to admit I'm not sure about that one. New 255 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: York didn't play no, but Arizona seriously doesn't play like 256 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: they have no process for expungement whatsoever, which is too bad. Um. 257 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: And I think even with kids that's the case. What 258 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: in Arizona? Oh yeah, well with juveniles, Um, since you 259 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: brought it up, everyone knows that if you're um under eighteen, 260 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: generally you will be tried as a juvenile. Unless you 261 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: have murdered or raped somebody or some other really really 262 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: terrible crime, they will try you as an adult. But 263 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: if you're under eighteen, they'll try you in juvenile court. 264 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: And here in this country, we have a little belief that, 265 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna wipe your record clean once 266 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: you become an adult. You might have messed up as 267 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: a kid, but you're going to get a second chance 268 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: out there in life as an adult. Don't worry about 269 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: your juvenile record anymore, which is great if you stay 270 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: on the straight and narrow. If you don't, then it's 271 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: uh still attached to you if you start committing crimes 272 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: again and uh you actually, if you are the juvenile 273 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: convicted of an adult crime tried as an adult and 274 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: you want to get that explained, you have to go 275 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: through the same process as any adult wood as well 276 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: as if you have a sexual crime, you have to 277 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: register for the sex offenders list, just like you would 278 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: if you were an adult, right, which is super important, 279 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I should say. Also, um and its defense, Arizona does 280 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: have a process for destroying juvenile records. Yeah, okay, I 281 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: guess it's just adults, gotcha. Um, So the the I 282 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: guess the sex registry is kind of a version of 283 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: the Specialized Criminal Record Depository, right. So, um, for many years, 284 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I I guess, until very recently, states weren't um mandated 285 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: to have a sex offender registry. There's a girl named 286 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Drew Shedeen who is like twenty two year old North 287 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: Dakota UM College student. I remember this very well, do you? 288 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I I didn't remember um who was abducted and and 289 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: I believe raped and murdered by a guy who was 290 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: a Level three sex offender. And level three is like 291 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: where the justice system is basically like, this guy's gonna 292 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah, he had raped another woman, he 293 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: kidnapped and stabbed a woman, and he had just gotten 294 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: out of jail for twenty three years for those crimes, 295 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: and he did it again, did it again. And one 296 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: of the ways that he was able to do this 297 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: is because North Dakota didn't have a sex offender registry. 298 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Well they do now. All states do now, and this 299 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: is I think like two thousand two or two thousand three, 300 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: that long ago. But they named the National Sex Offender 301 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: Public Registry after Drew shedein UM. So it's very appropriately 302 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: called the Drew Shedein National Sex Offender Public Registry. And 303 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: basically this is uh a publicly accessible database. Yeah, you 304 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: let me go to it and type in where you 305 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: live and it'll be like, here are all the sex 306 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: offenders in the neighborhood. It's pretty disconcerting. It there's apps 307 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: out there where you can like see who lives where, 308 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: and you'll find also that they're very frequently there's a 309 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: like will be one apartment complex or something where there's 310 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: a bunch of them. And the reason being is because 311 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: most states have laws where like, you can't live X 312 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: number of yards within a bus stop, you can't live 313 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: X number of yards within a school, what have you. 314 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: And in states like Florida, they're so restrictive that, um, 315 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: the sex offenders frequently have to like live under overpasses 316 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. Well, that happened in Georgia 317 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: and that camp camp. Yeah, I think it's still there, 318 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: is it, I believe? So Yeah, Well, I think probation 319 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: off officers too will set people up in housing and 320 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: uh a lot of times they'll you know, that's like 321 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: the apartment that they go to the apartment complex. Um. 322 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: But obviously that's a really important thing to have because uh, 323 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: sex offenders had the highest recidivism rates of I think 324 00:18:54,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: all criminals. Yes, I read that somewhere too. It's very scary. So, um, 325 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: now they're stored on databases. Obviously we've talked about interpoll before, 326 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: and they're shared you know, internationally. They're getting better about 327 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: that at least. But it's not like an open book, right, 328 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: it isn't an open book. And in fact, um, you 329 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: have a legal right to access your criminal records through 330 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: the Freedom of Information Act. And I went and looked. 331 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: The FBI will give you whatever they have on yourself, 332 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: or else they'll send you something that says you have 333 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: no FBI record. Yeah, I think you're only uh in 334 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: the National Crime Information Center database if you have been 335 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: booked and fingerprinted by the FBI, or the FBI has 336 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: your record, right, I'm sorry, the Interstate Identification Index. I 337 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: think that's the one where h you're only innered if 338 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: the FBI obtains your fingerprint data, so like somebody has 339 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: sent it to the FBI at least. But FBI, do 340 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: they maintain a national database of criminal records. I don't 341 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: know if they maintain it or not. It doesn't say, um, 342 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: I know the d O the d O T maintains 343 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: one for traffic violations like big ones. We we should 344 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: have mentioned that if you've been convicted of some sort 345 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: of traffic offense, speeding ticket, what have you, or anything, 346 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: it's not on your criminal record. Yeah, unless it was 347 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: like vehicular homicide or something like that. That would that 348 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: would be in there, right, UM, yeah, I think so. Instead, 349 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: it's things like d u I, suspended licenses, driving without insurance, 350 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: fatal accidents. Um, there's they're maintained on the National Driver Register, 351 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: which is separate from your criminal record. You could have 352 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: two records out there. And maybe perjury about the operation 353 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: of a vehicle. That's if you've ever like you're getting 354 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: a wreck and you're a drunk driver and you get 355 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: your best friend to switch with you who wasn't drunk, 356 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: which is they should have been driving to begin with, 357 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: that's perjury. That's felony. Yeah, that's a big deal. Um. 358 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: So Chuck, you can get your criminal record, n um. 359 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: The government can look at it any time they want. UM. 360 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: And employers can she talked about at the top of 361 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: this podcast. With permission. With your permission, you can't give 362 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: anyone else besides a potential employer or an employer permission 363 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: to get your record, Like you can't, I can't get yours. 364 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: Even if you said no, really he can get it. 365 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: It's fine to say no, but an employer can. UM. 366 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: And like we said, originally this was this was something 367 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: that was just very targeted, where like if you were 368 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: a driver, they wanted to know if you had any 369 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: vehicular homicide record or that kind of thing. Um. And 370 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: it's getting more and more broad. Um. And apparently because 371 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: criminal records um weren't protected, you weren't a member of 372 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: a protected class. Yeah. Um, so you could be subject 373 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: to job discrimination based on the fact that you're a 374 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: criminal record. They used to be like freewheeling, Like they 375 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: would tell you to your face and maybe smack you 376 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: in the mouth when they told you that you weren't 377 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: getting the job because you were a crook. Um. Courts 378 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: have started to rule in people's favors, finding that, uh, 379 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: some laws or some convictions have been shown to disproportionately 380 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: affect like black people Hispanics, so that job discrimination based 381 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: on these kind of convictions amounts to racial discrimination. And 382 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: some courts have found in the favor of people who 383 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: are turned down for jobs even though there's no law 384 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: defends against job discrimination based on criminal records. Interesting. And 385 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: you could also be discriminated against for like public housing. 386 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: Um and I love in the article and in general 387 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: treated differently. Yeah, people can be a jerk to you 388 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: if you have a criminal record with no retribution um. 389 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: And the The one exception which I thought was interesting 390 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: was that UM, if you have a felony for drug use, 391 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: they can't use that against you to not give you 392 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: a job. It's part of rehab, is it the rehab process? Yeah, 393 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: that makes sense. You know, the very powerful rehab lobby 394 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: got that loophole put in there. Well, it certainly strikes 395 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: a a notch on the side of people who believe 396 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: that people drug problems are like, you know, have addiction problems, 397 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: and that they're not necessarily bad people, so good for them. 398 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 1: So let's say you you talk to your employer and 399 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: they're like, look, we know you have a criminal background, 400 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: but the dog, the test dog we brought out likes you, 401 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: so we're gonna take a chance on you. But we 402 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: want you to pony up some money. They're going to 403 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: tell you to go get what's called a fidelity bond. 404 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: I had never heard of this. I had neither like 405 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I've heard about it in the case of like Robert 406 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: Downey Jr. Needing extra insurance after he went through is 407 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: like bad drugs phase. It's probably the same thing. It 408 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: probably is. But but movie companies UM production companies would 409 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: have to like purchase this massive extra insurance or not 410 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: be allowed to work with him at all. He was 411 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: too big of a liability. Not anymore of course. No, 412 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: he's really cleaned up his act. Yeah he's great. Um 413 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, there's a regular people, not just Robert Downey Jr. 414 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: Regular people can get fidelity bonding to which amounts soon 415 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: insurance policy that you get or your employer gets on. 416 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: You're saying, we think you're kind of a screw up maybe, 417 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: and we want to make sure of our bets are 418 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: heads you're not fired, right, but think you might really 419 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: screw us up one day. That's what else you got. 420 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: Um firearms, Uh, you got to go through background check 421 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: when you purchase firearms here in this country. And don't worry, 422 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: you won't have to wait very long for your firearm. Yeah, 423 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: how long is that? It's like instantaneous, is it? Yeah? 424 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: But if you have a criminal record, if you've been 425 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: indicted for a crime of more than a year in prison, 426 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: you are ineligible to purchase a gun, which means you're 427 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: just going to have to buy one off the street 428 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: like other ex criminals, which is said, Um, it doesn't 429 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: preclude you from traveling to other countries necessarily, but as 430 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: everyone who's ever been through customs knows they can deny 431 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: you whenever they want in any country. Pretty much. You know, 432 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: they have to allow you to come in. They have 433 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: to invite you in like a vampire, right. And it 434 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: doesn't preclude you from coming to this country if you 435 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: have a criminal record either, unless you're on a boat 436 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: from Cuba. That's right. But the same deal we can 437 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: deny people coming in. They suggest to get a visa 438 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: if you're coming to this country to work and you 439 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: have a criminal record, Good luck with that, That's what 440 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: I say. I say the same thing, good luck everybody. 441 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: You got anything else? No, there's another one down in 442 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: our endless string of law enforcement podcast that we definitely 443 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: have a suite of, like ten at this point at least. Yeah. Um, 444 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more about criminal records and 445 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing, How stuff Works won't judge 446 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: you if you search for that. You can just type 447 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: it into uh the search bar, like I said at 448 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. Um, and I said search bar. 449 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: So it's time for Facebook questions, Josh. We have two 450 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: and thirty of these, and so uh yeah, let's go 451 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: ahead and start here. Um. Doug Callahan if you were 452 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: to dive into a pool filled with any kind of fruit, 453 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: what kind of fruit would you choose? Pineapple? Um, Jerry 454 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: thought that was funny. How does being a team mask 455 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: at work? That's a crazy question. I think that's a 456 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: request for a show. Okay, like Team Mask guys, Um, 457 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: Shelleen Chuck Chook Chook the best, best favorite theme park 458 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: in the US? I mean, there's no question. What are 459 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: you going? Cedar Point? Yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. 460 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: I've only been there once. It was pretty good, but 461 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Magic Mountain was pretty awesome in l A. Cedar Point 462 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: is the greatest in the world. I'm kind of sucker 463 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: for the the studio ones too, like Universal Studios, Like 464 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 1: the Rides are Lane, but I just like, you know, 465 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: the old Wet Show in the Miami by Boat Show. 466 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: Who still be the Miami? But I don't think so. 467 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: I think the Night Riders, Yeah, the the n c 468 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: I S Boat Show. Oh h yasdn Nadery The Fifth 469 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Element good or bad? I wasn't a fan. I know 470 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: people love that movie. I didn't think it so good. 471 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: I've never made it all the right through. Okay, right, 472 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: when I see Gary Oldman and it's stupid haircut. I'm like, 473 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm done. Comes down. Then what do you got? I'm reading? Uh? 474 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: We want to read that one. Let's see. Is there 475 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: anything worth not knowing? That's a going from Craig Jacquette. No, 476 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: there's well, no, I don't know. That's a really great 477 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: question on its face. No, of course there's nothing that 478 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: we shouldn't know. But I also believe there is such 479 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: thing as knowing too much, like personal stuff about people. 480 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot that you shouldn't know, right, But also 481 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: even beyond that, chuck like, do we really need nuclear weapons? 482 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: Do we need nuclear capabilities? What if we didn't know that? 483 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: It's a great question, Craig Jaquette, you get you get 484 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: first prize today. Uh. James Hamilton's which sport has the 485 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: fittest athletes? Clearly Nascar? What do you think the fittest athlete? 486 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I would say high lie or soccer? Um, Jody Jackson, 487 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: I have good news for you. We've done how China 488 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: is one child policy works. Another person thought this was 489 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: called for a quest That's right. It is not. It's 490 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: really called for silly questions. Uh, Cody Quimby, who's your 491 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: favorite Beatle? And why. Josh's answer would be none of them. 492 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Mine would be George Harrison because you know, yeah, he's great. Yeah, 493 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: his soul was like like I love John Lennon, but 494 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: he was sort of a whiny little baby and a 495 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: bit of a pretentious artist. Paul McCartney's great, but Paul 496 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: was a bit of a power control freak. George Harrison 497 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: was just like there, dude, what about Ringo Ringos? He 498 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: placed down a nice back, but and he's fun. I 499 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: love ring Good too. Let's see one all right. Andrew 500 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Jordan's what current TV shows? Do you recommend? Stuff you 501 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: should know? Coming to Science Channel January? That's so current 502 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: it's not even out yet. Um. I mean I watched 503 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: obviously Madman is is to me the best show on 504 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: TV right now. I disagree. I think Dirty Rock is 505 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: the best show on TV. Thirty Rock is great, and 506 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Louis to me is like a tie for the best 507 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: show on TV. He's like, dude, he's making like French 508 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: art house movies every week on television. It's pretty amazing. 509 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: I watched The Killing. I watched True Blood. Do you 510 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: watch the Killing? Yeah? Well, Taxing isn't it? I watch 511 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: He's bounding down. The killing isn't taxing. I mean, it's 512 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of depressing walking Dead. I don't watch a ton 513 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: of TV, but there's like me, like eight shows. I 514 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: like Dexter still Man. Man, that one went off the 515 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: rail so bad the past couple of years. I needed 516 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: to give it. I haven't seen the past couple of years, 517 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: and it's way pretty come on DVD. Good luck man, 518 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: spoiler alert off the rail. All right, So that's it 519 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: for now. I think we have one more addition to 520 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: this and then we'll wrap it up. Okay, Thank goodness. 521 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: If you want to catch up with me and Chuck 522 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: digitally speaking, you can send us a tweet to s 523 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: y s K podcast. 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