1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: What's Up Everybody, Free and Out Podcast with boy John 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Middlecop on the Colin Coward Podcast Network Live. Actually I'm 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: recording this, but as I'm speaking, I'm doing it live. 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: A lot going on around the league, the owners meetings, 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: I like, I'm sure many of you are tired of 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: this topic. Hopefully this will be the last time we 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: ever have to talk about it. I'm sure it won't be, though. 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: The national anthem and some rulings that went down today 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: at the Owners meetings, I guess a new tactic they're 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: gonna take. I'll hit on that some thoughts because I've 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: really been in the Lions then you know where it 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: all started with Colin Kaepernick in the Bay Area, Odell 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Beckham Jr. You know, kind of taking a different approach 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: than many guys around the league. They were in his situation. 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: The Belichick and Brady thing just won't die. And pretty 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: interesting story on Nick Foles, and of course will always 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: end this Pie cast with your questions, and I got 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: a couple of good ones this week, and we do 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: it every week. Go to the iTunes subscribe rate and 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: in the review section leave your question, uh, anything NFL related, 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: anything college football related, And I will get to it 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: on on the podcast, but let's start with the national anthem. 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: I I say this all the time, uh, and it's 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: it's pretty simple, and I think it gets lost in 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: the social media era that we're in, and I'm a 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: part of it. You're probably a part of it if 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: you listen to a podcast. Uh, I'm sure you're on 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Twitter or Facebook or whatever. It's just changed the game. 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Too often we lose sight of what the NFL's mission 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: statement is. To me, their mission statement is very simple 31 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: and basically every company in the private sector is the same. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: It's simple to make money in the NFL. Also another 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: big part of uh, the entire nity in the NFL, 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: winning is not necessarily as important, but in the individual 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: teams winning and making money or the number one goals. 36 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's number one goal is to make money. And 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: I learned this in business school. Many of you that 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: are in sales, owned restaurants, work in restaurants, were work 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: in any field you know, the car dealership, you name it. 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: I was told this a long time ago and I 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and I do think it still holds true in two 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. The customer is always right. The NBA should 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: be applauded for this, not because, as Twitter will tell you, 44 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: they're very progressive, but they got out of the politics business. 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: They put in their cb A a long time ago, 46 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: and that David Stern is probably putting his feet up. 47 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Adam Silver just laughing because they're called these great progressives. 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: They mandated that every player in the NBA stands for 49 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: the national anthem. They left no room for chance. They 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: put it on paper, they made a strict rule. The 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: NFL I don't even think was thinking about it, and 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: really I don't think anyone around the country was thinking 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: about it until Colin Kaepernick did it and it became 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: a big issue. Let me say this, let me preface 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: this whole thing. I don't care. You can do whatever 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: you want. You can kneel, you can do cartwheels around 57 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: the football field. If you're a player, you could moon 58 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: the crowd. I would not give a ship what you did. 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: But people do, especially in certain segments in this country, 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of people, and studies have shown people 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: that watch the NFL tend to be to the middle 62 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: and to conservative. That's the majority of the NFL fan base. 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: The NFL needed to get out of politics and part 64 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: of being involved in politics is this kneeling issue. Now, 65 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: part of the problem is their solution kind of similar 66 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: to what just happened in our country last week with gambling. 67 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: In gambling, the Supreme Court voted to make it a 68 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: statewide issue. That is a conservative practice, to make take 69 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: it away from the federal government and put it within states. 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: The two Supreme Court justices that were adamantly fighting against 71 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: it were very liberal judges. They did not want the 72 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: federal government to lose power, so Roger Goodell kind of 73 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: removed themselves and put it in the team's power. Now. 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: I also think that some teams like Jed York has 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: been very progressive. I don't think he's really gonna care. 76 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to do whatever you want if 77 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: you want to, you know, you want to stand, you 78 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: want to lie down, whatever. And the fan base in 79 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: northern California won't really care. But in Indianapolis, in Dallas, 80 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: in some of these cities in the middle, in Green Bay, 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the fan base is not gonna be happy. But I 82 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: also don't think this is necessarily gonna fix the issue. 83 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: Like to me, I just would have mandated that everyone stands, 84 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: or I would have mandated that no one comes out 85 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: for the anthem, because in business, when your number one 86 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: goal is to make money, you want to remove yourself 87 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: from these controversies, you just do. Because obviously Kaepernick was kneeling, 88 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, in theory, what he was trying to do 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: was to fight against you know, criminal injustice, police, crossing 90 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: the line against minorities in America. Well, it then became, 91 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, fight on the military. It just took on 92 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: a life fits own and the NFL had to get 93 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: out of that business. Instead. They instead of going all 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: the way and getting removing themselves and just saying you 95 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: are not every team, just stay inside the locker room. 96 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: That's what I would have done. Just stay inside the 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: locker room and when the national anthem is over, you 98 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: come out. That would have been pretty simple. That would 99 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: have removed yourself. Instead they kind of half asked it 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: mandated that if you do come out, you have to stand, 101 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: and if you aren't gonna stand, stay inside the locker room. Well, 102 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: I've been around these coaches, I've been on these teams. 103 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Teams don't like fracture. You know, if two guys are 104 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, I'm not comfortable standing that means 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: that two guys are gonna be in the locker room. 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: So coaches, to me, are just gonna have the entire 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: team stay in the locker room. That's what the NFL 108 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: should have done. They kind of dip their toes in 109 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: these water because they want to remove themselves. They want 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: people to stop talking about this. They want the president 111 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: to stop tweeting about this. They want this issue to 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: remove themselves. As Michael Jordan once famously says, said, Republicans 113 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: buy shoes too. They want everyone to be happy. Instead. 114 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: Now they kind of put it on the owner. Just 115 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: like in gambling, they put it on the states. Well, 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: some states are gonna be more open minded than other states. 117 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, New Jersey obviously already passed the law. Mississippi 118 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: the law is coming. Alabama is admit they're not passing 119 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: the law. Just like I would imagine jet back to 120 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: my example in Jed York, he'll probably say you can 121 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Jerry Jones is not gonna say that. 122 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: Uh mcnarren Houston is not gonna say that. Green Bay 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: is not gonna allow that. I doubt or say it 124 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: is cool with it, just because his fan base won't 125 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: be so I do think they attempted to do the 126 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: right thing, because the right thing is to remove yourselves 127 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: from this and listen, I stick to sports on Twitter 128 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: people media people get so angry about that. Well in 129 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: this issue that stick to sports. This is the NFL 130 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: like they're trying to sell their sport instead, though they 131 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: did not completely remove themselves from it. And I do 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: think that there is gonna be an issue come week 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: one when someone doesn't stand and the owner has to 134 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: find them that it's only gonna be worse. So if 135 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I could say Roger and to these owners that let's 136 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: face it, they're all most of them are seventy year 137 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: olds plus multibillionaires, a tad bit out of touch even 138 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: with younger people that are in the middle of hell, 139 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: even conservative young people. Hey guys, you know you tried, 140 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: but this is not probably the correct solution. You should 141 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: have just done like the NBA and kind of the opposite. 142 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: Just do not have your team come out for the amblem. So, 143 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: while I not commend them, I do understand where they 144 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: were coming from to try to fix this issue. I 145 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: do think in the short term this issue is only 146 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: going to become a bigger problem let's get into my 147 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: main man, O'dale Beckham Jr. I I gotta say something. 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna get a lot of credit for taking a 149 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: different approach than a bunch of guys around the league. 150 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: He's shown up to O. T. A. S. And he's 151 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: working out with the team in hopes to get a 152 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: new contract. Well, guys like Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald, Zack Martin, 153 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: for example, also first rounders in that draft are not 154 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: in camp holding out for what hopes to be massive, 155 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: massive pay days. All three of those guys I just 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: listed deserve it. They're all should be max players right 157 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: at their position. For Donald and Mack, we're talking quarterback money. 158 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: Zack Martin should just get an astronomical amount for a guard. 159 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, a wide receiver also in that draft, has 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: already been paid, and I think he got about fifty 161 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: five million dollars guaranteed. So I would imagine Odell Beckham, 162 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: you know, is is shooting for in the range of 163 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: sixty five million guaranteed. But I had someone say something 164 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: to me one time, or maybe I overheard it in 165 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the room. I can't exactly remember where it was said, 166 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: but I remember who said it, and it's always stuck 167 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: with me. And this is talking professionally, not necessarily personally, 168 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: but in a professional setting. Maybe it's a little different 169 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: if you work in like a family business, but if 170 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: you're an employee in a corporation, which is the equivalent 171 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: of what all these players are, uh, you know, for 172 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: their teams, they should take this statement and apply it 173 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: to every aspect of their contract negotiations. The only person 174 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: who cares about you is you. And yesterday in the 175 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: NFL there was an a c L injury Hunter Henry, 176 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: one of the bright young tight ends in the league. 177 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I call still call him the San Diego Chargers. I 178 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: refused to call him the Los Angeles Chargers. Uh, the 179 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. He tore his a c L in 180 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: a O T A at practice. I mean it's I 181 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: thought Hunter Henry a couple of years ago, as a rookie, 182 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: had a chance to be one of the best tight 183 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: ends in the league. I mean, just an absolute stut. 184 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Now his career is just kind of derailed. But it 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: tores a c L in one of these mini camps 186 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: O T s whatever, the phase four, whatever you want 187 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: to call it. And not not that he was still 188 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: on his rookie deal. It sound like he was negotiating 189 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: a new contract. But the reality is that any moment 190 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: you go to any of these activities, and especially on 191 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the field starting now, for the next month, you're doing 192 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: football related drills, you're doing football related activities, you can 193 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: easily tear your We've seen Jeremy Macklin did it a 194 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I remember maybe it was two 195 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, Michael Crabtree towards Achilles in an O t A. 196 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: It is very easy, especially for wide receivers that are cutting, 197 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: that are planting. It happens. And right now Aaron Donald, 198 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Zack Martin, for example, under zero circumstances, 199 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: should you step foot on the field when you are 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: I think Levi on Bell is also taking the same 201 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: approach not showing up to any of these organized team activities, 202 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: because the moment you get on the field and you 203 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: start going full go, you can't go half go, and 204 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: it just doesn't work that way. Your instincts take over, 205 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: your body takes over, your muscle memory takes over, and 206 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: you run arount and you set up to block even 207 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: though you're not wearing pads. You you try to get 208 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: open on a maybe a rookie dB that you want 209 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: to prove something. If you're you know, Khalil mcaarin Donald, 210 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: you want to show maybe some young offensive lineman give 211 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: him the business, and your instincts take over, and then 212 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the worst case scenario happens and 213 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: you have a major injury. I've been on the other side. 214 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: I've been in these personnel meetings. Even for the best 215 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: of the best, the moment your value diminishes, whether that's 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: let's just say, through an injury, through poor play, uh, 217 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: through your contracts stipulates that I can get rid of you, 218 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: the team will look to replace you. So back to 219 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: my original statement, the only person that cares about you 220 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: is you. Odell Beckham Jr. Is trying to show good faith, 221 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: and in theory, he is doing the right thing by 222 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: showing up. But the money that he could potentially be 223 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: leaving on the table if something catastrophic happens at one 224 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: of these O t A s. When he's trying to 225 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: get open on Genora's Jenkins, when he's trying to you know, 226 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: go deep on Landing Collins and he tears an Achilles 227 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: breaks an ankle. I mean, freak deals happen all the time. Now, 228 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: you could counter argue me and say that this could 229 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: easily happen to Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack working out 230 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: on their own. That is a fact. You can get 231 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: hurt anything you do. But what I keep getting back 232 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: to is if Odell Beckham were to never be the 233 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: same he just broke his ankle last year, him working 234 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: out this year with the team, if something were to happen, 235 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: the team would not pay him big money. It's just 236 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: that simple. They would look to replace him. For as 237 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: great as he is. And let me tell you this, 238 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I think Odell Beckham Jr. But Antonio Brown. I would 239 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: have him number the number two best receiver in the league, 240 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: probably Julio three. I would rather have, if he was healthy, 241 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior than Julio Jones. That being said, if 242 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: I was the Giants, I would be not feeling confident, 243 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: in a little uneasy when it came to paying him. 244 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: I at their side, But I know this, if I'm 245 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: uneasy about paying him, and right now he's healthy and 246 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: working out in a fully returned from his injury. If 247 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: he were to get hurt, again, it would make my 248 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: decision ten times easier. I just would not pay him. 249 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: So if I was Odell Beckham Jr. And while I 250 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: get back to what I said, I do understand showing 251 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: good faith, showing he's a good teammate, showing he's a 252 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: good guy. He actually is making a terrible business decision 253 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: by risking potential injury when that team, the moment they 254 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: were giving a sliver of chance to not have to 255 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: pay him would do that. So I I commend Levy 256 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: on Bell, Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack are making the 257 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: right business decisions. And if I was Odell Beckham and 258 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: I was his camp I would remove him immediately from practice. 259 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Too big of a risk, too much money, and I 260 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I just don't see the positives outweighing the negatives. Let's 261 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: get to, uh, what might have been actually the eye 262 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: opening story of the week the Philadelphia Eagles Howie Roseman. 263 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: We we've had their general manager and basically runs the 264 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: franchise when it comes to player contracts, when it comes 265 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: to trades. I've often said, Uh, I've I've had a 266 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: front row seat to Billy Bean the last five or 267 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: six years out here in the Bay area and just 268 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: really growing up in northern California. Bill, He's been here forever. Uh, 269 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: you know a Joe running joke always around here is 270 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: you know he would trade his kid for the right price. 271 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: And now with the analytical movement throughout all of sports, 272 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: people like Howie Roseman, Darryl Morey, Hell, even some people 273 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: say that about Danny Ainge, who clearly puts a large 274 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: emphasis in the analytics and in the numbers. Belichick's the 275 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: same way. Bill Walsh was like this a long time ago. 276 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: They love value. They will trade anyone at any time 277 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: if the price is right. And Howie Roseman is basically 278 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: the Billy being of the NFL. You trade anyone. They 279 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: did go on record after the Super Bowl and say 280 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: that they had zero and I repeat zero, uh desire 281 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: to trade Nick Foles regardless of the offer. Then I 282 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: had Howie Roseman on the podcast and he reiterated how 283 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: much he loves Nick Foles and what he means that organization. 284 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: I am California kid. I got to live in Philadelphia 285 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: for two years and it was an eye opening experience 286 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: how much they loved obviously sports, but football. The Philadelphia 287 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: Eagles mean everything to that city. As you saw with 288 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Sixers run seventy sixers run the seventies Sixers 289 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: already very big deal. Back when I lived there, the 290 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: Phillies were really good, the Flyers. I mean, it is 291 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: a Boston, New York and uh and Philly are you know, 292 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: and maybe Chicago, you know, best sports cities for a reason. 293 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: They take their sports very seriously. But Philly is a 294 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: football town. They'd never won a super Bowl until this year. 295 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: The backup quarterback was the reason that they won the 296 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. How many backup quarterbacks around the NFL would 297 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: have been capable of doing that? And I think the 298 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: answer is simple. None. Once Jimmy Garoppolo was traded and 299 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: was no longer a backup in New England, the NFL 300 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: did not have a backup quarterback capable of doing what 301 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: Nick Foles just did. Until Nick Foles really did it, 302 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: And they went on record and in an in an 303 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: organization that, let me repeat, is not emotional, will trade 304 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: anyone and get rid of anyone at any time when 305 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: the price is not right. They did it with Brian Dawkins. Uh, 306 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: they shipped Donovan McNabb out of there. They've done it 307 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: with countless players. But I think they did right by 308 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, even though the right football move, the right 309 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: economical move for the big picture of your franchise, would 310 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: have been as Mike Silver reported, And we all know 311 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Mike's tight with Hugh Jackson. Uh, he's tight with Howie. 312 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: He knows. He's not making this up that the Cleveland 313 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Browns offered them pick thirty five before the draft for 314 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, And part of it was the Eagles were 315 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: gonna go to Nick Foles if any opportunities like this 316 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: presented themselves and asked him what he wanted to do. 317 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: And I've been told Nick clearly. I mean not only 318 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: if I'd been told, Nick said it himself. It's pretty 319 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: clear Nick loves playing in Philadelphia. He loves being around Carson, 320 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: he loves the team, he likes being around Doug. He 321 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: feels very comfortable there. Said no, I do not want 322 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: to do that. You blame him. I mean, do you 323 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: want to be the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Brownson 324 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: and Hughie Jackson. I wouldn't either, but it would have 325 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: given him the opportunity to start, and as you has 326 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: it all played out, he would have been the mentor 327 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: instead of Tyrod Taylor for UH for Baker Mayfield, but 328 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: they didn't do it. The Philadelphia Eagles, now with the 329 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: thirty five pick and the two thousand eighteen draft, was 330 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. The Eagles could have used Nick Chubb. He 331 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: would be, you know, basically lead the replacement when Uh, 332 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: when j G i e who's in the last year 333 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: of his contract and a bad knee will probably his 334 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: last year in Philly would have been the big picture, 335 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: long term starting running back. It would have been on 336 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: the right football move. But what Nick Foles did to 337 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: that city. I'm anti making emotional decisions with players because 338 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: the history shows you if you consistently make unemotional decisions 339 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: with football players and just with sports in general, like 340 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: you would in business, when you treat a you know, 341 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: a property like an asset, you have to sometimes treat 342 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: players like an asset. They're either ascending or descending. And 343 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: Nick foles value, I mean, unless he wins another Super Bowl, 344 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: you could argue as value wouldn't actually be as high 345 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: because his contract was still low and he was still 346 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: under contract, would never have been as high as what 347 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: it was this offseason. And they didn't do it. But 348 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: I do give them credit because when you're city wins 349 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: a su Bowl for the first time in franchise history, 350 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: in the city that had been so starved, that guy 351 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: even though more than likely. I I think I saw 352 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: a video recording this on Wednesday, so it must have 353 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: been I think it was Tuesday morning Eagles practice, and 354 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz looked pretty good moving around. Just again, it 355 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: was no t A and it was an individual drill. 356 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: But as we sit here in you know, middle to 357 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: the end of May, I think it's pretty likely that 358 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: he's a starting quarterback come week one. That would mean 359 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: Nick Foles is the backup. Uh so of course you 360 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: trade your backup first. That's a better pick than what 361 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: ultimately the Patriots got for Jimmy Garoppolo, which was picked 362 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: forty one. Think about that. If I would have told 363 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: you six months ago, when Jimmy Garoppolo was still on 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and Nick Foles was the backup 365 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz, is it looked like he was gonna 366 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: win the m v P and the irony is Tom 367 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: Brady ended up pointing the m v P that Nick 368 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: Foles would could fetch you more than Jimmy Garoppolo in 369 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: a trade you would have said, I'm crazy, but he 370 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: would have. And it shows you that the Browns were 371 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: a little desperate and Nick would have been their best 372 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: starting quarterback in years. But the Eagles did right by him. 373 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Nick Foles probably made the long the best long term 374 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: decision for himself to stay with a stable organization, and 375 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: it kind of had like, I don't want to say, 376 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: a happier ever after kind of and result here. But 377 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool, you know. And if I'm a Philly, 378 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: if I'm an Eagles fan, you know, I'm kind of happy. 379 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: He deserved to kind of pick his spot and he 380 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: wanted to stay with my team. He just wanted me 381 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. That that's pretty cool. I mean, that's 382 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, we talked about so much stuff with 383 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: the NFL and football, so many controversial topics. This is 384 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: just kind of a cool story and I'm glad the 385 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: way it played out from Nick. Let's get to Brady 386 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: and Belichick. You know, the words nothing Last Forever feels 387 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: like it's starting to ring true in New England for 388 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: the first time really, and what eighteen years of their 389 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: marriage since they won their first Super Bowl back in 390 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: two thousand one, uh and beat the I think at 391 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: the time the greatest show on turf, The true greatest 392 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: show on turf to me really is nine two thousand 393 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and one. The Rams were heavily favored that that was 394 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: a big time upset, and Brady and Belichick have really 395 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: never looked back. But Brady really became Brady in oh 396 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: seven after Spygate. From OH seven until this past year 397 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: where he won the m v P, he has become 398 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback ever. Over that stretch, he took his 399 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: game to the new heights. He started kind of becoming 400 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: what Peyton Manning was already and took it to in 401 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: a completely different level. He became Tom Brady superstar over 402 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: that period of time. To me, Brady has always hung 403 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: his hat on being the greatest teammate ever, basically being 404 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: the Tim Duncan of the NFL, taking pay cuts, allowing 405 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: his team, you know, to to sign other players, giving 406 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: his team flexibility, setting the tone for the first time 407 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: ever last year. Let's face it, everyone uses the marker 408 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: of Malcolm Butler getting benched in the Super Bowl as 409 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: the red flag. To me, it was Jimmy Garoppolo there. 410 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: I I don't know all the details there, and I 411 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: don't know if we ever ever quite will. I know, 412 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: the conspiracy theorists in me thought it was a little 413 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: weird that Tom Brady played a part of pushing and 414 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: forcing Belichick's hand, and then from there, Belichick's natural instincts 415 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: are to kind of go into fu mode, a little 416 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: bit of spite, and that fracture their relationship that, let's 417 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: face it, it's already probably a little contentious. I mean, 418 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Belichick is not the easiest individual to deal with, you know, 419 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: especially if you're Tom and you know that he kind 420 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: of needs you, and you also knew that he was 421 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: planning on replacing you. And listen, I started with Belichick 422 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: on this. The big picture move would have been replacing 423 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady with Jimmy Garry Blow Jimmy Garoppo. I know, 424 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: TV twelve and the pliability. My mom bought me his book. 425 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. Avocado ice Cream. It's not gonna last forever. 426 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: His wife has gone on record she wants him to 427 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: stop playing football. It could end as soon as next year, 428 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: in two years whatever. I know, he won the m 429 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: v P. I love Tom Brady. He's in the John 430 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Middlecoff pyramid of great football players. He's number one, but 431 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: I I'm siding with Bill Belichick if I'm Robert Kraft 432 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: on this one. Even though it it always felt with 433 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Garoppolo situation that Robert Kraft was siding with 434 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and then the Malcolm Butler thing clearly kind 435 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: of fractured Tom Brady, and now Tom Brady is kind 436 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: of a few mode in kind of spiteful mode, and 437 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: I I do think it's just pretty wild. If you 438 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: look at Sports Montana and Walsh's let's just start there. 439 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: They lasted for I think eight years, for eight years, 440 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: think about that for eight years eight actually it might 441 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: have been a little longer. Nine he's drafting seventy nine. 442 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: Walsh retired in eight think about that, not not eighteen. 443 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Let's go Jordan and Phil Jackson. That did not last 444 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: that long. By the end, Phil was not coming back 445 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: in and Jordan left and there was a period of 446 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: time where Jordan left in the middle of their run 447 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: hell Kobe and Phil that they butted heads. You look 448 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: at Peyton Manning had multiple coaches throughout the run. Typically 449 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: in these situations with these all time great superstars, Lebron 450 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: James left Cleveland went to pat Riley, who's kind of 451 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: a Belichickian type figure, only lasted four years with him, 452 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: and at the end you read some of these articles, 453 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: it was he was tired of pat Riley telling him 454 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: what he had to do. That lasted four years Lebron 455 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: and pat Riley four did Belichick and Brad have lasted 456 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: eighteen and is going into nineteen. Is honestly one of 457 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the great sports accomplishments, and it might be the greatest 458 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: and American uh ego history. Think about the egos of 459 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: those two guys, the superstardom of those two guys, to 460 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: last that long, to be that productive, and I'll promise 461 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: you this, Well, I don't know if it's a big 462 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: deal that Brady misses this entire off season. It is something, 463 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: but there is no tandem, no duo in American sporting history. 464 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: Definitely in my life watching sports that I would bet 465 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: on to be able to circumvent the noise, block it 466 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: all out, and kick ass come week one through week 467 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: seventeen through the playoffs. Now, will they win the Super 468 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: Bowl or not? I don't know, but I'll promise you this, Belichick, Brady, 469 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: come the fall, come training camp, no two people I 470 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: would feel more comfortable betting money on to be successful 471 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs, then to have success in 472 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Why, because that's what they do now. Is 473 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: their relationship perfect? Hell no, clearly they got issues, but 474 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: there are no two people that have proven the ability 475 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: to work through distractions, to work through problems, to work 476 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: through turnover, to work through injuries. They overcome at all. 477 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: That's all they do. Well. I think the Navy Seals 478 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: may be getting this wrong, and and maybe like the 479 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: the Marine who I don't know exactly what branch of 480 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: the military this comes from. I'm pretty sure it's the Seals. 481 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: It's adapt and overcome. That's basically the Patriots mantra, adapt 482 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: and overcome. Obviously, it starts with do your job and 483 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: then adapt or overcome. Zero excuses, just get the freaking 484 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: w and that is all Brady and Belichick do. So 485 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: whether their hate is now at a place where they 486 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: will never like each other again moving forward, let's just 487 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: assume that's where we're at in their relationship. You see 488 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: that sometimes and divorces, like you know, they kind of 489 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: hate each other and then by the end they just 490 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: can't stand each other. And the hate is so strong 491 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: they can't even be in the same room with each other. 492 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: Let's just say, hypothetically that's the case. These two guys 493 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: will adapt and overcome. They will figure out a way. 494 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: Come Week one, come Week five, come Week eight, come 495 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs, those two will be ready. Belichick will have 496 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: a game plan for the opponent. Tom Brady will have 497 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: a game plan for the the offense going against whatever 498 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: the defense is, and they will be ready to kick. 499 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: Ask them kick off at at ten am, one pm 500 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football, Thursday Night Football, whenever 501 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: the hell their plan. So clearly this is something. Clearly 502 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: there's a major fracture that's not even deniable anymore. My 503 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: theory is it definitely started with Jimmy Garoppolo. Now there 504 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: might have been stuff before then that I don't know 505 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: much about, but the Jimmy Garoppolo thing that there isn't 506 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: just smoke there, that there's a wildfire, and the Malcolm 507 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: Butler thing. While I do think it's independent of Jimmy Garoppolo, 508 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: I think that might have been the tipping point for 509 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: Tom Brady where he's just I've had enough of this guy. 510 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: This guy is no longer gonna boss me around. I 511 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: just I can't deal with it. I'll just go through 512 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: Robert Craft. I will avoid Belichick. Now that that would 513 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: not be a sustainable model big picture, long term, but 514 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: these two are living week to week, day to day, 515 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: year to year, trying to win, trying to win rings. 516 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: So I would bet on them being able to overcome 517 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: it and still be very productive and potentially win it 518 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: all this year. Now, would it be like, clearly there 519 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: is a light at the end of this tunnel, It 520 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: is coming to an end, and it may end pretty ugly, 521 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Like they may have one of those moments. Remember Shack 522 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: and Kobe when they played the Detroit Pistons and they 523 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: just got their ass kicked and it was just over 524 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: like that. Maybe it for Belichick and Brady this year, 525 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: like in the first round of the playoffs, or you know, 526 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: at the first round they don't play the first round, 527 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: they skip it because they're usually the one or two 528 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: seed and they host a game. Maybe they get beat 529 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: in that round and that's just it, Brady retires, whatever. 530 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: But I do know that this team will be ready. 531 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: And it is kind of sad when you think about it, 532 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: that we are coming down the home stretch of Belichick 533 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: and Brady, the greatest duo in American sporting history. Okay, 534 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to what I what I really view 535 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: is my my favorite time of the week. Uh. We 536 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: named it last week the Middlecoff mail Bag. Every week 537 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: I will get to your questions. And where I find 538 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: your questions are in the review sections of iTunes, subscribe 539 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: rate and in the review section leave a question. You 540 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: leave a question, I will answer it in this podcast. Okay, 541 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: let's start out with h Shepherd, Commander, new listener. Uh. 542 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Grateful to Coward for showcasing this guy. Appreciate that. Uh. Question. 543 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: People keep saying that the Bucks had a great offseason. 544 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: While I think it was good, I do not share 545 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: the same unbridened optimism. How do you think the additions 546 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: and subtractions will pan out as a whole. I went 547 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: and looked this morning after I saw this question and 548 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: saw that Tampa Bay was thirty in the NFL and 549 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: that's a bad thing there. So they're basically third to 550 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: last in the league. They gave up seventeen rushing touchdowns. 551 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: They also, I think we're twenty four in the league 552 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: in yards per attempt on the ground at four point 553 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: three yards per tempt. This year they had a JPP. 554 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: They obviously in the draft added Fair and Vinny Curry. 555 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: Their defensive line was not good enough in a division 556 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: against Cam Newton, against obviously Drew Brees and a guy 557 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: that won the MVP two years ago and just got 558 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,719 Speaker 1: a lot of money in Matt Ryan. That you have 559 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: to be good up front. Your defensive line has to 560 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: be solid, and there's was no it was not good enough. 561 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: They added three legitimate players j PP. They didn't have 562 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: to trade much. I think it was like a conditional 563 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: third for a guy that's still really good. Is he 564 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: great player? You know? But he is much better than 565 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: anything they had. Vita Vea is a big, big body 566 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: inside to go next to Gerald McCoy, and Vinny Curry 567 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: is a great rotational defensive lineman that you can win 568 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowls with. So to me, they've added so much 569 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: help in an area they so desperately needed up front 570 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: on their defensive line. I like them to begin with 571 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, who's a stud. Jamis who kind of needs 572 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: to kind of figure it all out. There's a big 573 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: year for him. O J. Howard that should take a 574 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: big step adding Ronald Jones should be huge. Uh. I 575 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be good. I think they are easily 576 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: a sleeper playoff team. Obviously a lot depends on their coach, 577 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: and in the NFL, dirt Cutter is not good and 578 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: he might not be. So I prefaced it all by 579 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: saying they have the roster to make the playoffs. I 580 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: feel confidently in saying that, do they have the coach 581 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs? I don't know. But Jason light 582 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: the general manager, I think, has done a very very 583 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: good job this offseason. And I am bullish again, if 584 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: the coach can just be solid, you don't have to 585 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: be a great coach to make the playoffs. Jack del 586 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: Rio two years ago made the playoffs with the Raiders. 587 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Why because the Raiders had a playoff roster. The Tampa 588 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers have a playoff roster. Can their coach just 589 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: be solid? Because if he's solid, that the Bucks will 590 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Let's get to uh, Dane M. Do 591 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: the grades that players are assigned allow teams to rank 592 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: players of different position types in one list one through 593 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to or is there some other relative ranking logic that 594 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: helps the team know how the best available player is 595 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: That's a great question in my experience. Uh, you basically 596 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: rank it per position, and then some teams do like 597 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: a top fifty list where you just kind of go 598 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: around the draft room after you've ranked your draft board 599 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: and rank it just one through fifty. But I don't think, 600 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: at least to my knowledge of scouts around the league 601 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 1: and GMS, did they have a list of just one 602 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: through too, and that would be the draft picks where 603 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: they have it just listed, you know, regardless of position. Now, 604 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: I do think a lot of teams value certain positions 605 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: more than others. Obviously quarterbacks in his own little world. 606 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: But then you teams, if if an offensive tackle is 607 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: great as the same as an offensive garden and running back, 608 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna take the offensive tackle. If the offensive tackle 609 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: is great the same as a corner, then I think 610 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: you can have legitimate conversations. If a defensive end is 611 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: graded the same as a safety, you're gonna take the 612 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: defensive end. And I just think this is there is 613 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: no perfect science for this. This is actually a great question. 614 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: This is why you have gms and college scouting directors 615 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: because you get that position where you have the same 616 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: grade on the same on on multiple different players, and 617 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: it's where you have conversations in the room. And this 618 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: is why you spend basically nine months getting ready for 619 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: the draft. You're constantly talking about this would if in 620 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: the second round we have player X and player Y 621 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: up there, one guy is a star running back and 622 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: the other guy's a star safety, which one do we take? 623 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: And it's why best player player available is easily said, 624 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: it's not easily executed because you may think that a 625 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: running back is a little bit more valuable, let's say, 626 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: than a guard. But what if your team needs a 627 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: guard more than the running back. It's why teams kind 628 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: of sometimes lean with a need. Uh. I know, the 629 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: Patriot system just from what I've heard, always does it 630 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: relative to their own team. So is this guy better 631 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: than our starting slot receiver? Is this guy better than 632 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: our starting middle linebacker? And that's how they work. I 633 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: think every team is a little different. And at the 634 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: end of the day, for the most part, quarterback again 635 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: in its own world. The next three or four positions 636 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: are pretty uh straightforward, and what's the most important Probably 637 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: number two is always going to be pass rusher, a 638 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: defensive end and outside linebacker or just a star star 639 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: inside pass rusher like J. J. Watt was or Aaron Donald. Uh, 640 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: those guys will always probably be number two. I think 641 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: the the importance of corners has have definitely moved up. Uh. 642 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: The importance you know of wide receivers in a in 643 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: a passing league have taken on a much increased value. 644 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's black and white. It's why 645 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: when teams say we'll just lean best player available, well, 646 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: what if four guys have the same great and that 647 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: often is the case. It's why you have healthy discussions. 648 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: It's why you know, uh, disagreement is healthy. It's also 649 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: why you spend so much time in draft meetings to 650 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: get to situations, to go what happens if this happens, 651 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: and you've basically laid out every scenario. So I would 652 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: imagine there are teams that I don't know about that 653 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: that rank. You know, I don't know about two twenty, 654 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: but maybe top one to fifty, just ranking straight order. 655 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: So if this guy is available, this is who will take. 656 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: But I think more players or more teams just rely 657 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: on their room, their GM, their personnel directors, their head 658 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: coach to just talk out the situations and be pragmatic 659 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: about it, and you know, ultimately rely on their instincts 660 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: because ultimately, I would say the best drafters obviously do 661 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: the most work and have prepared for situations, but just 662 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: have good instincts when it comes to pulling the trigger 663 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: on a player. Let's get to this question, uh, Glen 664 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: t Uh. It's a pretty long question. Basically, the just 665 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: of it is the gist of it. Just of it. 666 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: Nate Solder at left tackle, who Colin has called an 667 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: elite tackle. Solder obviously signed with the Giants. Colin thinks 668 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: that the Giants have largely solved their old line problems 669 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: to keep Eli protected. However, what Colins seems to ignore 670 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: is that for two seasons, Dante Scarneckia, the longtime offensive 671 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: line coach for the New England Patriots. He's also a 672 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: roommate of my uncle uh in junior college way back 673 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: in the day, who retired but then he came back, 674 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: has been anchored by soldier who was below average and 675 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: then Scarneckia coached him up. What's your take on if 676 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: he's a good or average left tackle? Is he elite 677 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: or not? Is Joe Flacco elite? Is Nate Solder elite? 678 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: Is this the key for the Giant's offensive line. I 679 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: think Nate Solder is a solid starting left tackle. Is 680 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: he an elite left tackle? No? To me, there's only 681 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: two or three elite tackles, uh, Tyron Smith, Trent Williams 682 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 1: of Washington, you know, off the top of my head, 683 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: maybe I'm missing one that that might be it Whitworth 684 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,959 Speaker 1: used to be. I don't know if he's quite that guy. 685 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if Staley was ever quite elite, but 686 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: he was damn good. I mean he's better Soldier. Soldier 687 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 1: is a solid starter, and solid players, solid players when 688 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: they hit the open market get paid much closer to 689 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: as an elite player. That does not mean you're an 690 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: elite player just because you get paid more money as 691 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: a player. And I think this was the same for 692 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: any employee. Does not mean you're any better as an employee. 693 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: You're just more highly paid, especially when your value as 694 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: a productive salesman or a productive left tackle is already established. 695 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: Like Nate Solder is not improving. He is what he is, 696 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: which is a solid left tackle. And I think when 697 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: you look at the New York Giants who have been 698 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: desperate for offensive aligneman, who have been desperate for tackles 699 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: that he has a massive improvement. But I also think 700 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: it shows you that the Patriots, for the most part, 701 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: have really had offensive a ligneman overachieved. I would say 702 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: the only one in recent memory the last twelve fifteen 703 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: years that really didn't was Logan Mankins. He would have 704 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: been an elite player anywhere. Uh he was an elite 705 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: elite college procest might be strong because he went pick 706 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: thirty two, but he was a a consistent pro bowler 707 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: and he would have been that with the Cleveland Browns, 708 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: with the San Diego Charger, with the New England It 709 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't have mattered where he played. Nate Solder probably a 710 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: little more team specific to get his career going. But 711 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 1: now I think he has established he should be able 712 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: to be a plug and play starter immediately. So does 713 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: he change the Giants. I think he does, just because 714 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: their left tackle and just their tackles in general have 715 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: been somewhat of a turnstile the last several years. Eli 716 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: has been uh been receiving way too many look out 717 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: blocks from his offensive linement. Look Out blocks are not 718 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: good that they need people to block up front, so 719 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: their offensive lineman I think They also drafted Will Hernandez 720 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: in the second round is vastly improved. What I like 721 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: to give him that much money? Probably not. I also 722 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: have nothing but faith the Patriots drafted Win in the 723 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: first round from Georgia, that Dante Scarneckia will coach him 724 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: up and he'll be damn good it. He'll be ready 725 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: to go week one. Uh So, I I think it's 726 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 1: a win win. It's a classic Belichick. He's never gonna 727 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: overpay for his own guy. Uh that he doesn't think 728 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: it's worth that money. And the giants who were desperate 729 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: had to do it. So I like to move again. 730 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate it everyone listening. Leave your questions in iTunes, subscribe, 731 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: rate in the review section and leave a question and 732 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: I will get to him the next podcast. Thanks everyone. 733 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: Uh here every week every Wednesday throughout the offseason. We'll 734 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: keep on turning them out. Stories will keep on coming, 735 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: and I'll keep on firing my takes. Uh making three 736 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: and out. It's a place where you guys know you're 737 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna get some good stuff again. I appreciate everyone listening 738 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: to John Middlecoff. I'm a Colin Coward Podcast Network