1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: The volume. All right, welcome to him today. You're at 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: the volume heavy Tuesday, everybody. Oh ball, you guys are 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: having an incredible week. Have a jam packed show for 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: you guys today. A player in the NBA who's averaging 5 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: twenty five points, five rebounds, and eight assists per game 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: on sixty percent true shooting requested a trade yesterday. James Harden. 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: We've been down this road before, but he has done 8 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: it again. After that, I want to talk about the 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: trade that went down over the weekend that we didn't 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: have a chance to hit yesterday, the DeAndre Hunter for 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Keon Ellis and Dennis Schroeder swap. The tail end of 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: the show today, the rumored move for Toronto to go 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: after Sacramento'sis Sabonis. I want to talk about this is 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: just a talent play for Toronto. One of the reasons 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: why I kind of like it. I also want to 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: dig into some of the potential fallout for other players 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: on Toronto's roster that could be on to move surrounding 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: the deadline. 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So rumbling started going out last 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: night that the reason for James Harden's recent absences. He's 30 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: missed the last couple of games for the Clippers, but 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: it was under personal reasons. It turns out that those 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: recent absences centered around a trade request, and then Sam Sharania, 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: who was unusually lagging a bit behind on this one, 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: ended up coming in and legitimizing it all with the 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: report right around eight thirty Pacific last night. And it 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: doesn't take too much critical thinking to figure out what's 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: going on here. James Harden has a player option for 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: next season, but that player option is only guaranteed for 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: thirteen zo point three million if he gets waved before. 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact date, but it's right there, 41 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: in like middle July, so essentially James Harden could play 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: through the season and then get waived at the end 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: of the season, collect his thirteen million, and then be 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: a free agent and basically be limited to teams that 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: have cap space to try to save and that could 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: severely limit his options. So I would imagine James Harden 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: was basically looking at the situation and going, I'm averaging 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: twenty five to five and eight on sixty percent true shooting, 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: and I'm about to turn thirty seven years old this summer. 50 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to turn this season where I'm averaging twenty 51 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: five for the first time in several years, I'd like 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: to turn that into one more payday. And I'm sure 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: he had conversations with Lawrence Frank and the Clippers front office, 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: and the Clippers basically were like, no, And here's the thing, 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Like Harden has been so good and is so beloved 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: by Kawhi, and is so beloved by the team, and 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: is so beloved by the coaching staff and all the fans, 58 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: then I have a hard time believing the Clippers wouldn't 59 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: have retained him at a lower number. So I have 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: a feeling that this was a situation where hard and 61 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: just wanted a lot more than the Clippers were willing 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: to give him, and maybe they weren't willing to even 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: commit to guaranteeing his player option if you wanted to 64 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: stay back right, And so from that, with that being 65 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: essentially the groundwork of the situation, I'm sure he just 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: wants to go somewhere where it can he can at 67 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: least be sure they're going to guarantee his player option 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: next year, and probably looking for something along the lines 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: of like a two plus one in one hundred, right 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: around one hundred million dollars, looking for a little bit 71 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: more financial stability over this disability is the wrong word, 72 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: but some of some additional financial security over the tail 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: end of his career, and when the Harden when hardened 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: and the team came together and they had a difference 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: of opinion there, the only logical conclusion was to seek 76 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: a trade to a destination that would prove by that 77 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: security for James Harden. So, first of all, I feel 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: terrible for Clippers fans. Even though there is a lot 79 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: of logic behind this process, it just really sucks that 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: this would happen, especially right in the middle of a 81 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: stretch where the Clippers were playing. Arguably some of the 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: best basketball in the entire NBA. That's a pretty tough 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: rug pull, right to request a trade in the middle 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: of this type of run. Secondly, I admire the self 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: awareness here. I'm on the part of the Clippers front office. 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: We had a whole segment yesterday talking about the Clippers turnaround, 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: and one of the things I talked about is that 88 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: I always take things with a little bit of a 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: grain of salt in the middle of the season when 90 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: it comes to teams that go on runs. It's not 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: even the first time we've seen this with the Clippers, right, 92 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: Like you go back to when the James Harden trade 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: originally happened. Remember, they lost six games in a row, 94 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: they got off to this brutal start. Then they rip 95 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: off a ton of wins, right, But then when they 96 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: get to the finish line, you have the Kawhi Leonard 97 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: injury and it ends up being James Harden and Paul 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: George by themselves trying to go up against Luka Doncic 99 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: and it's just not enough and they end up losing. 100 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Or you know last year they had a big late 101 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: season run, right, You had the season where they lost 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: to the Suns, where they were red hot in the 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: middle of the season, and then Kawhi Leonard breaks down 104 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: at the end. So this is kind of like a 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: relatively consistent trend for the Clippers where they kind of 106 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: go on these like mid season, late season runs and 107 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: then end up amounting to a not very good playoff 108 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: team or breaking down. And I thought the final straw 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: there was like, you actually do get a healthy Kawhi 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Leonard for that Nugget series last year, and in Game 111 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: two he looks like Kawhi, but for the rest of 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: the series he really struggles with Denver's double teams, is 113 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: unable to sustain any sort of real production and they 114 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: end up losing a series against the Denver Nuggets team that, 115 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: by the way, was probably the worst version of the 116 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: Nuggets team since the micro Porter Junior and Jamal Murray 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: injuries that kind of plagued them in the early twenty twenties. Right, So, 118 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: like there's this kind of consistent trend where these mid 119 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: season runs for the Clippers have been a little overrated. 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: And if you guys, remember what did I talk about yesterday? 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Just literally in yesterday's show, I said, I thought the 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: streak was legitimate, but then I didn't think it meant 123 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: they were suddenly the Oka See Thunder either. I thought 124 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: they were as good as a second tier contender, but 125 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: that they'd function more as a third tier contender because 126 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: of their circumstances. They would have to play crazy intense 127 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: basketball all the way through to the end of the 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: regular season just to beat Golden State to the eight seed, 129 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: which then would lead to them most likely needing to 130 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: win a road playoff game against someone like a Phoenix 131 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: or the Lakers, or the Minnesota Timberwolves or the Houston Rockets, 132 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: whoever ends up dropping to that seven seed. And then 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: even if you win, you got to go on the 134 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: road to San Antonio in round one. If you don't 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: win that plane and you get the eight seed, you 136 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: got to go on the road to OKC season over right. 137 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: Even if you beat San Antonio in the two seed, 138 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: you've got Denver waiting for you in round three, and 139 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: you got the Thunder waiting for you, excuse me, the 140 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Denver waiting for you in round two and the Thunder 141 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: waiting for you in round three. So it just was 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: looking incredibly difficult under any circumstances for the Clippers to 143 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: get where they wanted to go. So credit to Lawrence 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Frank for making a really tough decision here. If your 145 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: goal is to maintain cap space in the summer of 146 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, you can't also sign James Harden to 147 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: a new massive deal this summer, even if you do 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: like this recent stretch of basketball. And again, I feel 149 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: really bad for Clippers fans because that's just brutal when 150 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: you're starting to buy into the team finally, and they've 151 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: legitimately been one of the more fun teams to watch 152 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: in recent weeks, as they've just been competing so hard 153 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: on defense and winning a lot of big games against 154 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: a lot of really good teams, and then all of 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, the Ruggets pulled out from under you. It's 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: a bummer, But Lawrence Frank is just making a tough 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: decision here. That's probably the right decision. So now let's 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: look at the rumor Darius Garland for James Harden swap. 159 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: The trade itself, from the standpoint of the machinations of 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: it is pretty easy. Both players make just a bit 161 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: over thirty nine million, so it's a simple one for 162 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: one type of deal. The Calves are a second Apron team, 163 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: so they're somewhat limited in what they can do at 164 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: the deadline beyond this sort of one for one type 165 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: of deal. It's a similar kind of self awareness thing 166 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the Calves as well as they 167 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: look at their situation. Darius Garland doesn't seem to be 168 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: able to survive an NBA season. Even last year, He's 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: finally healthy in play seventy five regular season games and 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: looks awesome all year, and then he breaks down in 171 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: the postseason, takes a sweet time getting healthy into the 172 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: start of this season, and then breaks down again. It 173 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: just continues to happen. Now here's the thing. I'm actually 174 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: pretty high on Darius Garland. When he's one hundred percent healthy, 175 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: his speed in playmaking is a real defense breaking talent. 176 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: When he's gashing up defenses with his drives, he just 177 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: isn't a machine that generates high quality offense. But when 178 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: he's less than one hundred percent physically, his speed is compromised, 179 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: and then his flaws get exaggerated because he's not generating 180 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: as much drible penetration. He's not gashing up the defense 181 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: and generating all these quality shots. So now all of 182 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, the fact that his three point shot can 183 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: come and go, or the fact that he's really small 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: on the defensive end of the floor. That sort of 185 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: thing starts to rise to the surface, and then if 186 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: he's unavailable to play, then he's just straight up useless. Right. 187 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: So in this situation, if the Clippers are acknowledging their 188 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: reality as it pertains to James Harden, the Calves, if 189 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: they're considering this deal, are acknowledging reality as it pertains 190 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: to Darius Garland. So the idea of the Calves making 191 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: a move on Harden with Garland's salary, actually, as I 192 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: look at it makes more sense for Cleveland than it 193 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: does for the Clippers. The Calves turn a player who 194 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: may or may not even be better than Harden when 195 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: he's healthy, but he's never healthy, which makes James Harden 196 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: clearly better. You're turning Darius Garland into a guard in 197 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: James Harden that is historically one of the more reliable 198 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: night tonight availability guards in the league. He had that 199 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: one brief stint with the hamstring injuries, but once he 200 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: got through that, he's been a guy who's around every 201 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: night when you need him. As a player, he has 202 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: his playoff Wartz for sure, but that's always been less 203 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: concerning in this phase of his career when he's playing 204 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: alongside better players, playing alongside a Kawhi Leonard playing alongside 205 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: in this theoretical instance with Donovan Mitchell, I do think 206 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: the basketball fit is just a tiny bit clunky. Harden 207 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: is very much a slow it down, spread pick and 208 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: roll in ISO player, so a lot of what the 209 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Calves have done in terms of trying to play fast 210 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: and play with pace and play with quick movement and 211 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: decision making in the half court, that would shift more 212 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: to a slower half court attack, more of like a 213 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: your turn, my turn, spread pick and roll type of approach. 214 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: With Donovan Mitchell, I think it would be less fun 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: to watch in the regular season for Calves fans. Less pace, 216 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: less movement, more clunky, stagnant possessions, But I also think 217 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: it could actually be a touch more reliable when they 218 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: get to the postseason, especially when you consider that Cleveland's 219 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, kind of pace ball and player movement attack 220 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: depends heavily on their ability to generate dribble penetration with 221 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Darius Garlands speed, and so if Darius Garland's not one 222 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent we've seen over the recent years it kind 223 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: of devolve into a Donovan Mitchell brute force style attack anyway, 224 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: So why not have that and then have James Harden 225 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: as a reliable secondary ball handler there. And then as 226 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: you start to dive into it, it's like, Okay, do 227 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: the Calves have the personnel for a more spread pick 228 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: and roll ISO attack. They do. They have excellent screen 229 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: and roll threats and Evan Mobley and Jared Allen, and 230 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: they have lots of jump shooting around them. So I 231 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: do think it has some real upside there for the Calves. 232 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: It also could be the ticket for the Calves to 233 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: get out of the second apron. So I believe if 234 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I understand the rules appropriately, they can waive him before 235 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: his contract guarantee date. Then when he clears waivers, they 236 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: could resign him on a longer term deal that factors 237 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: in that thirteen million he would collect. Anyway, a lower 238 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: salary number stretched over a three year contract or two 239 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: year contract could be the kind of thing that satisfies 240 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: James Harden but also dips the Calves below the second apron. 241 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: So all in all, I actually liked the deal for 242 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the Calves the team. I don't understand it for is 243 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: the Clippers, because Darius Garland has two additional years on 244 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: his deal. So whatever sort of financial flexibility you're concerned 245 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: about with Harden, Darius Garland's just going to cause that 246 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: same problem for you. Frankly, if I was the Clippers 247 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: and I had to choose between keeping the team together 248 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: and paying James Harden what Darius Garland's current content is 249 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: all the way through to the end, I'd rather do 250 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: that than pay Darius Garland because I know James Harden's 251 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna be healthy, I know what he is, and I 252 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: know what he does for this team. At that point, 253 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: you're better off just going up to James Harden and 254 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: being like, look, dude, we'll guarantee next year and we'll 255 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: give you a third year at the Darius Garland number, 256 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: and you'd be better off. But maybe the Clippers are 257 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: looking at Darius Garland as a guy that if they 258 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: can get him healthy, they'll be either able to use 259 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: him as a, you know, a guy. Maybe they believe 260 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: in Garland's upside as a better player than Harden when 261 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: he's completely healthy, or maybe they think they can rehab 262 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Garland's trade value and end up flipping him somewhere else 263 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: before twenty twenty seven and turn him into picks. I 264 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: don't really understand that particular move for the Clippers. It's 265 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: worth mentioning there's been some conflicting reports there. We saw 266 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: a Chris Mannis report that the Garland for Harden swap 267 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: reached advanced stages of discussion. Mark Stein countered that report 268 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: and said that it never reached advanced stages. So your 269 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: guess is as good as mine as to what the 270 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: reality is there. But that was just my kind of 271 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: first impression on a potential Garland for Harden swap. I 272 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: think it'd be great for the Calves, and I don't 273 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: really understand it for the Clippers. So what other teams 274 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: make sense for Harden? Now, this is I'm gonna go over. 275 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 276 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: eight teams. But this is more just meant as a canvassing. 277 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: So like, this is not like I think all these 278 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: make perfect sense. I'm just trying to come up with 279 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: a list of teams that could potentially make a move 280 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: for James Harden. First, what if Miami strikes out on Yiannis? Like, 281 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: what if Yannis goes to Golden State and the Janna 282 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: saga is over, Then what does Miami do? They don't 283 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: really have a reliable shot creator on the team. James 284 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Harden was would obviously be a hilarious culture fit in Miami, 285 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: but it's just something that, again, as I was canvassing 286 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: the league, I'm like, Okay, a team that needs jot creation, 287 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: it's somewhat desperate to make a deal. What if they 288 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: miss out on Giannis. If you're the Clippers, you go 289 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: after Andrew Wiggins and maybe you just lean all in 290 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: on defense for a couple of years and Wiggins's contract 291 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: lines up with that twenty twenty seven cap space idea. 292 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: Depending on what other contract you end up taking back Orlando, 293 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: what about something along the lines of James Harden for 294 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Suggs and another one of Orlando's smaller contracts, the 295 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: rise of Anthony Black, will make it somewhat difficult to 296 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: pay everyone in the long run. Jalen Suggs has been 297 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: one of the best plus minus guys for the Magic 298 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: this year, but he's also consistently over the years had 299 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: health related issues, so it doesn't really matter how good 300 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: he is or how valuable he is for you if 301 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: he can't actually play when you need it. Similar kind 302 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: of situation to the Garland dynamic we were talking about 303 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: with Cleveland. So if you're Orlando and you can turn 304 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: this massive long term deal for Jalen Suggs into a 305 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: shorter term deal for James Harden, you add a bunch 306 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: of refined offensive skill, all of a sudden, you could 307 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: have a magic team that's utterly massive in terms of 308 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: physical athleticism, but also have quite a bit offensive skill. 309 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: Between what Desmond Bane, James Harden, Franz Wagner, and Paula Bonkerra. 310 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: That was just a team that I looked at as 311 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: a potential option there. If they wanted to get off 312 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: the Jalen Suggs contract the Bucks, they could go after 313 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: James Harden and like a let's keep Giannis Hail Mary. 314 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know why the Clippers would want to 315 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: take on salaries like Kyle Kuzman and Bobby Portois. But 316 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: maybe the Bucks include a first round pick or something 317 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: like that and get the deal done and then they 318 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: basically go to Giannis and go, we're going to keep 319 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: you through at least the end of this year, maybe 320 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: next year. With James Harden. Give it a shot with 321 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: James Harden as you're running mate. If it doesn't work, 322 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, we'll trade you down the line either next 323 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: year in the regular season, next year at the summer, 324 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: this coming summer, something along those lines. He's the kind 325 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: of player that makes some sense as a Giannis Hail 326 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Mary if the Bucks wanted to try to keep him. 327 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. I think the Bucks taking 328 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Giannis to the summer would essentially just really it's just 329 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: a dick move, frankly, because like you're you're basically saying, 330 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: we want to get more for you, So good luck 331 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: competing with this Bucks team that is literally quit on 332 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: their coach and is that they're terrible. So like, I 333 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: feel like that would be pretty messed up to make 334 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: Gianness do that, but like just so you can get 335 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more at next year's deadline or over 336 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: the summer in that trade cycle. But my thing is, like, 337 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: at the very least, if you're going to try to 338 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: convince Giannis to stick around for another playoff run, if 339 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: you can be like, here's James Harden, a guy who 340 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: averaged twenty five to five and eight this season on 341 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: sixty percent for shooting. That at least gives Giannis some plausible, 342 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of fire power to make some sort 343 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: of run in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Houston. Harden could 344 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: help with Houston's offense, but there's two hang ups there. One, 345 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: they'd have to use some bad salary to match, so 346 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: that would make it so they'd probably have to include 347 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: a first round pick at least maybe two. So that's 348 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: a lot to pay for a thirty six year old 349 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: James Harden. Also, allegedly, Ema Udoka is not much of 350 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: a James Harden fan, but I wouldn't be surprised if 351 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant pushed hard for that particular idea. Minnesota was 352 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: mentioned in mark Stein's reporting, but he said Minnesota is 353 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: unlikely to look in that direction. I tend to agree. 354 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: Like we talked about last week, I think Minnesota should 355 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: not trade any of their larger contracts. The key for 356 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: them is sustainability with AUNT. I also really like their 357 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: formula as a playoff team. I wouldn't mess with that. 358 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: Phoenix makes a tiny bit of basketball sense because their 359 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: twentieth and half court offense and Harden is a half 360 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: court offense machine. But I feel like there's no chance 361 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: that Matt Eshbia looks in that direction after the debacle 362 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: of the last few years, and I would agree with 363 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: him there. I would not make that move. The Warriors 364 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: would be a hilarious destination. They'd need to do something desperate. 365 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: They need offensive firepower. But you could not script a 366 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: worse basketball fit. The two play styles of Harden and 367 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Steph Currier diametrically opposed. That obviously doesn't make a ton 368 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: of sense. And then the last team is Sacramento. You 369 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: just have to consider them because you can never put 370 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: it past them to do something stupid, as we will 371 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: discuss here in a few minutes, but we'll see that 372 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: was definitely a strange report that came out last night, 373 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: But as the dust kind of settled on it, it 374 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense for both sides to move on. 375 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: Also for Clippers fans, I wouldn't say it's completely unlikely 376 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: that this doesn't work out or they just struggle to 377 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: find a team. And then James Harden has no choice 378 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: but to kind of come down to whatever number Lawrence 379 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: Frank discussed with James Harden as an extension or as 380 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: a new deal this summer. You know, we just don't 381 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: know what that number ended up being. They obviously had 382 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: a gap there, and Harden's going out to the landscape 383 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: to look for something and maybe it just doesn't pan out, 384 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: and then he has no choice but to re up 385 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: with the Clippers, and then you get to continue to 386 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: make a make a run with this current course. 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Last little bits of 424 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: fallout there. The Celtics have always wanted to beat Zoobots. 425 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: If for whatever reason, the hardened deal goes through and 426 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the Clippers end up essentially moving closer towards a pivot, 427 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: they could end up moving zoo. The Celtics, you know, 428 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: could end up offering a you know, a couple of 429 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: first round picks in that type of deal. Suddenly the 430 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: Celtics have a center. I was, you know, I was 431 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: talking with Jackson about this yesterday, because yesterday on hard 432 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Rock Bet, the Celtics had the third best championship odds, 433 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: and that has since shifted a little bit. They're now 434 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: tied with the fourth best championship oods. But I was 435 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: talking with Jackson, I'm like, I like the Celtics, but 436 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: that seems pretty high for me in terms of like 437 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: their championship bods. And now it seems to make a 438 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: little bit more sense. I'm kind of just drawing connecting 439 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: some dots here, But I wonder if that's Vegas basically 440 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: looking at the situation and going, what if the Celtics 441 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: get Zubots and they get Jason Tatum back, and suddenly 442 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: you have Zubots Tatum, this new version of Jalen Brown 443 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: that's a total ass kicker with all their depth of 444 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: shooting talent on the perimeter. Like, that's kind of an 445 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: interesting concept. And there's no way they were gonna trade 446 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: Zoo if they were, you know, good with Harden and 447 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: ripping off wins the rest of the year, there's a 448 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: legitimate chance they trade Zoo if you, uh, if you 449 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: end up moving James Harden right, and then lastly, if 450 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: the Calves ended up continuing to tweak their roster and 451 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: kind of moving things around. Jared Allen is another one 452 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: of those centers that I would look at if I 453 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: was the Los Angeles Lakers as a potential partner for 454 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: Luka Dancic. I don't think they can afford Allen, but 455 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: it's just something that I would at least consider kind 456 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: of poking around under the circumstances. The DeAndre Hunter for 457 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Keon Ellis and Dennis Schroeder swap. So this happened over 458 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: the weekend. I didn't have a chance to get into 459 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: it yesterday, but we're gon we're gonna get into it today. 460 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: The details, the Calves get Keon Ellis, they also get 461 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder, The Kings get DeAndre Hunter, and the Bulls 462 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: get Dario Sarich in two second round picks. This is 463 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: the classic Sacramento Kings deal that essentially involves them repeating 464 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: someone else's mistake. It's been just kind of a shit 465 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: show with the Kings in recent years. Obviously, you trade 466 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: away a franchise cornerstone level talent and Tyres Halliburton, who 467 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: immediately turns around and leaves the leads the Pacers to 468 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: a conference finals in an NBA Finals, at least in 469 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: the Sabonis return. From that deal, you have this fun 470 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: playoff team built around Sabonis and the dribble penetration of 471 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Malik Monk and Deer and Fox. But then the following 472 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: year you win two fewer games, but because of how 473 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: brutal the West is, even with forty six wins, you 474 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs. So you turn around and you signed 475 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: Tomarta Rozen, you trade Deer and Fox to the Spurs, 476 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: you get zach Levine, and you basically rebuild the twenty 477 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty three Chicago Bulls, who, by the way, were forty 478 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: and forty two in a worse conference, despite the fact 479 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: that Demarta, Rosan, zach Lavine, Nikola Vusovich, and Pat Williams 480 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: their core four guys that season, missed a combined thirteen games, 481 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: so they basically were fully healthy all season and were 482 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: below five hundred in an incredibly weak Eastern conference. That 483 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: team didn't work, and Sacramento was like, fuck it, we'll 484 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: try it too, and they just repeated Chicago's mistake, and 485 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: now essentially Sacramento is repeating Cleveland's mistake by interpreting DeAndre 486 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: Hunter as this three and D wing. The Cavs paid 487 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: three second round pick and two swaps to get DeAndre 488 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Hunter last year because they thought he would be that 489 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: scoring three and D guy for them. But the truth 490 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: is DeAndre Hunter is not a three and D player. 491 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: He's much more in that archetype of that scoring forward. 492 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: I talk about this this player a lot. There's quite 493 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: a few of them in the league. This like player 494 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: who is really aggressive looking to score on the weak side, 495 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: either taking a ton of catch and shoot threes or 496 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: driving and taking advanced, you know, kind of close out 497 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: attacking moves. There's several of this type of player out there. 498 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: He has some size in athleticism, but he's much better 499 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: as just a scorer, a guy who takes a bunch 500 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: of catch and shoot threes and drives closeouts. He's a 501 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: mediocre rebounder for his size. He's a below average point 502 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: of attack defender, and he's a very poor off ball 503 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: defender who regularly misses shooters, missus rotations, missus box outs, etc. 504 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: I've said this before in the show. He's just not 505 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: a scrapper. He's not the kind of guy that's like 506 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: constantly getting his hands dirty, a ballhawk, doing all sorts 507 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: of damage on the margins, which is what I think 508 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: you have to be if you're that real three and 509 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: D archetype. DeAndre Hunter is a hell of a lot 510 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: closer to that, like Kyle Kuzma, Rui Hachimura, Bobby portis 511 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: archetype of like big scoring forward than he is to 512 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: the Jaden McDaniels like three and D player. So when 513 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: he's scoring the shit out of the basketball and hitting 514 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: an a ton of threes. His value is real, but 515 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: his scoring is inconsistent, so his value fluctuates wildly back 516 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: and forth. And DeAndre Hunters having a really bad year 517 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: shooting the ball, which is making that dynamic bad more 518 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: than it's good. The only difference between DeAndre Hunter and 519 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: that Kyle Kuzma Ruey Hachimura Bobby Portis group is that 520 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: Hunter looks more like a three and D wing. He's leaner, 521 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: he's a little bit faster, but it doesn't actually functionally 522 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: translate to those things. And so again, like, he's not 523 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: the defensive liability that Bobby Portis is. I don't want 524 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: to like. I'm more just saying he's closer to those 525 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: bigger bodied forwards that can really shoot and drive close 526 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: outs and can go for twenty twenty five points on 527 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: any given night, but not the type of like real scrapper, 528 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: awesome kick ass athlete that just anchors you in the 529 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: dirty work the way that a Jaden McDaniels does. But 530 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: it's weird because Hunter looks more like that physically, and 531 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I think that's why people keep kind of falling for this. 532 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: The way Cleveland and Sacramento can the y'or have. I 533 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: should say that's what makes this trade the classic kind 534 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: of Sacramento Kings trade. You took a positive asset and 535 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Keon Ellis, who might not have fetched you a first 536 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: round pick, but he probably would have fetched you a 537 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: couple of second round picks if you just moved him 538 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: straight up for somebody, and you turned him into a 539 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: negative asset, a three and D wing who's not actually 540 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: a three and D wing who's making fifty million dollars 541 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: over this year and next year, all because you failed 542 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: to recognize someone else's mistake. There is a reason Cleveland's 543 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: getting rid of him. Cleveland wouldn't give a shit about 544 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: him making twenty five million dollars next year if he 545 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: was a lockdown perimeter defender who excelled at the dirty work, 546 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: even if he was struggling to knock down shots this season. 547 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: So I don't know what Sacramento's doing for Cleveland. I 548 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: actually love this deal on several levels. In the short term, 549 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: you add two very good small guard defenders. When you 550 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: look at the Eastern Conference and you have to guard 551 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson and Duce McBride, Emmanuel Quickly and Jamal Shad 552 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: Derek White and Peyton Pritchard, Tyree Smaxine vj edgecomb all 553 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: of these playoff teams that have like duos of really 554 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: quick guards that get a lot of dribble penetration or 555 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: that do a lot of work from the perimeter shooters. 556 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: In the case of Derek White and Peyton Pritchard, Dennis 557 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: and Keon are both excellent options for those specific types 558 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: of guards. They both can get overpowered by the bigger 559 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: perimeter athletes that can create shots, but specifically smaller guards 560 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Dennis Schroeder and Keon Ellis are both excellent options. So 561 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: I actually think this is a substantial upgrade to Cleveland's 562 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: playoff defense. You can keep forty eight minutes of literally 563 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: forty eight minutes of Schroeder and Ellis on Jalen Brunson. 564 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: We saw Dennis Schroeder have some success for stretches guarding 565 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson in that first round series last year for 566 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: the Pistons. He can frustrate him sometimes. Keeping that level 567 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: of perimeter defense on those guard corps around the league, 568 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: I think is a real upside. And then the second 569 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: piece of it is the Lonzo ball experiment hasn't really 570 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: worked because he shot in the ball so poorly. Dennis 571 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: has been a reliable backup scoring guard, shooting guard, shot 572 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: creating guard over the course of the last few years. 573 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: The Calves will also benefit from his competitiveness and energy. 574 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I saw a report that one of the big kind 575 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: of laments from the Calves is that they missed Georgis 576 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: Kniang and just kind of his mean attitude after they 577 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: sent him out in the DeAndre Hunter deal. This is 578 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: a guy, and I know this was years ago, but 579 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: I loved having him in the trenches on the Lakers, 580 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: and I watched him last year with Detroit and I 581 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: still thought he had that punch in him. Again. As 582 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: a backup guard, you can deal with a little bit 583 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: more of the inconsistency. I like that move. And then 584 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: in terms of your best lineups, Keon Ellis is exactly 585 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: the type of three and D guard that if Darius 586 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Garland's unable to play, he can play alongside Donovan Mitchell, 587 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: or if James Harden comes around one day, he could 588 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: be the guy that is alongside those those guards. You know, 589 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: a Mitchell Ellis lineup or a hardened LS lineup to 590 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: give you some good compatibility in your backcourt. So again, 591 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: just a hilarious, nonsensical deal for the Kings, but it 592 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: bolsters the chances of a contender out east. So in 593 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: that case, it is a fun trade. Really quickly before 594 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: we get out of here today, what would a guy 595 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: like Demanas Sabonis do for the Toronto Raptors. It's been 596 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: reported that Toronto would like to potentially take a shot 597 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: on Sibonis because of the issues that Yaka Pertle has 598 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: had with the back injury that's kept him out for 599 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: much of this season. It's definitely a risk because I'm 600 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: assuming from a salary standpoint, they'd have to include RJ 601 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Barrett and RJ Barrett when he's on the floor. This year, 602 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: the Raptors are nineteen to nine. But it is a 603 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: fascinating idea with some upside. First of all, I really 604 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: like Toronto's specific play style with Sabonis. I like like 605 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: when you've got a lot of playmaking talent and you've 606 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: got these bigger forwards, especially guys like Scottie Barnes, that 607 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: can punish switches and do a lot of damage in 608 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: the post area. I like the idea of taking a 609 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: team that moves the ball a ton. Again, this is 610 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: a team in Toronto that assists seventy percent of their baskets, 611 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: a team that has a lot of side to side 612 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: ball and player movement. I like the idea of anchoring 613 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: that with the real passing, screening folkrum out on the perimeters, 614 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: run in dh o's with these guys. Sabonis kind of 615 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: fits that mold. I also kind of like the idea 616 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: of like stacking talents. So like Scottie Barnes is this big, 617 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: physical bullyball player is doing a ton of damage in 618 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: one on ones this year. I like the idea of 619 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: potentially combining that with Sabonis and just being a real 620 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: ass kicking frontline in terms of punishing skinnier teams underneath 621 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: the rim. I think it's an interesting idea for the 622 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: Raptors to pursue. And then also, like the Raptors have 623 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: a lot of talent and they've won a lot of 624 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: games and a wide open Eastern Conference. I see Sabonis 625 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: as a talent play for them in a wide open conference. 626 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: That's interesting to me, just stacking talent and seeing if 627 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: you can just slip through the cracks and get it 628 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: done and get to the finals. I generally love when 629 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: teams get aggressive adding talent. It's tricky when you add 630 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: tip players that are not talented that because you're just 631 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: not paying attention to what's happening around you. It's like 632 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: I was just talking about the Westbrook first Giannis idea 633 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: like trading for Gianni's is not the same as trading 634 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: for Russell Westbrook. Like we knew Russell Westbrook was falling off, 635 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: We knew he was going to be a bad fit 636 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: alongside other stars. The Lakers making that move was dumb 637 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: in the moment. Jannis is Giannis. There's just so much 638 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: talent there. So Bonus is a player that I think 639 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: is a legitimate talent play for Toronto. It's something that 640 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: I think is an interesting avenue for them to explore 641 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: lastly before we get out of here. As a side note, 642 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: Jake Fisher reported that the Raptors would likely try to 643 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: get out of the tax at this deadline, and that 644 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: the most realistic avenue for them to get out of 645 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: the tax is to dump oshag Bodji's salary. We also 646 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: know that there are teams out there, Brooklyn included that 647 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: would consider taking on salary for draft compensation as a 648 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: third team. Oshag Bodji is exactly the type of low 649 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: risk but potentially high reward three and D wing player 650 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: that I would consider going after if I was a 651 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: team that needed that type of player but didn't want 652 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: to spend for the safer, more expensive options. Osha is 653 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: having a truly impressively bad jump shooting season. He's shooting 654 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: nineteen percent from three. He's just seven for thirty eight 655 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: this year on unguarded catch and shoot threes, according to Synergy. 656 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: But there's some context there. His minutes and his attempts 657 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: have fallen off of a cliff. He's taking only one 658 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: and a half threes per game. He took four per 659 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: game last year. Last year he made one hundred and 660 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: one threes and hit them at forty percent one hundred 661 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: and one for two point fifty three. So there's a 662 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: version of that trade where you move for oshak Boji 663 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: and the change of scenery in an increased role with 664 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: more minutes where he shoots the ball better. There's also 665 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: a chance you get him and he still can't shoot right. 666 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: But if all he costs is like second round pick 667 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: and some salary that you send to the Brooklyn Nets, 668 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: that's a really low cost move. And again, if the 669 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: change of scenery helps him rediscover his shooting stroke, that 670 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: could be a real hit and really improve a team. So, like, 671 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: take a team like the Lakers who desperately wants to 672 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: upgrad their perimeter athleticism. You could get a deal done 673 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: where you essentially send Dalton Connect to Toronto, you send 674 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: Maxi or Gabe to Brooklyn, and you send a second 675 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: round pick to Brooklyn, and Toronto gives you Oshag Bodgi. 676 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: Toronto gets out of the luxury tax, adds a young 677 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: shooter and Dalton Connect that they can keep or not keep. 678 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: He's got two team options, so they could get rid 679 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: of him at the end of the season if they 680 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: wanted to. But he's a shooter, a shooting talent who's 681 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: not getting any minutes for the Lakers. Maybe Toronto could 682 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: take him and get some shooting upside out of him 683 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: for a team that really could use some shooting. Right 684 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: for the Lakers, you get Oshag Boggi, an athlete on 685 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: the perimeter that, even if he doesn't shoot well, this 686 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: is a team that's full of dudes who can't shoot, 687 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 1: who cares And if he does end up shooting close 688 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: to the way he did last season. It's just like 689 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: a slam dunk home run move. And if you're Brooklyn, 690 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: you're facilitating the move by taking an expiring salary that's 691 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: off your books next season, and you're getting a second 692 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: round pick for it. So that's the kind of guy. 693 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: I just gave the Lakers as an example. But if 694 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: you're a team that's looking for a three and D 695 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: wing but that doesn't can't afford to send out a 696 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: first round pick and wants to do something more discounted, 697 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: Abaji's the kind of guy that has some track record, 698 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: relatively recently of being a better shooter, a much better 699 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: shooter than he's been this season. He's also in this 700 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: weird small role this year. Toronto wants to potentially get 701 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: off of him to get out of the tax. That's 702 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: the kind of guy that I'd be targeting. I would 703 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: imagine he'll get moved by this Thursday, and whoever goes 704 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: after him, I think that's a really smart move as 705 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: a potential high upside, low expense move for them. All right, guys, 706 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: it's all I have for today is always to sincerely 707 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the show 708 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow was some game reactually got a 709 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: fun slate tonight. I'll see you guys then,