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Speaker 2: Final Hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan EDGs
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. Reggie Miller will stop by a little
Speaker 2: bit later on. We'll talk to the Monday morning quarterback
Speaker 2: Albert Breer lo and behold, the Colts have finally found
Speaker 2: their quarterback. He's forty four year old Philip Rivers. Not
Speaker 2: signed yet, but I guess he worked out. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to Albert Breer about that possibility. I'm guessing Riley Leonard
Speaker 2: is going to be out there even on one leg
Speaker 2: against Seattle. I can't imagine having anybody quarterbacking against Seattle's defense,
Speaker 2: let alone a forty four year old Philip Rivers out
Speaker 2: there in Seattle Chargers over the Eagles. Chargers are now
Speaker 2: nine to five. Philly is eight and five, and that
Speaker 2: was all on Jalen Hurtz, including the overtime interception. Four
Speaker 2: interceptions also had to fumble as well. The acc responded
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame saying that they value the partnership and
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Notre Dame
Speaker 2: has a press conference in an hour from now. From
Speaker 2: what we've been told two different sources that this was scheduled.
Speaker 2: This isn't in response to the ACC and being snubbed
Speaker 2: by the College Football Playoff Committee. But I'm sure that
Speaker 2: there will be questions about the ACC. This is more
Speaker 2: for the local media to kind of do the reset
Speaker 2: as you go into the offseason. That's what we were told.
Speaker 2: Don't know if there's going to be any declaration. My opinion,
Speaker 2: my advice would be, if you want to say anything
Speaker 2: about the ACC and your relationship, why not say we're
Speaker 2: going to take thirty days to reassess our relationship with
Speaker 2: the ACC.
Speaker 3: That way, you don't react right away.
Speaker 2: I think they reacted right away when they got snubbed
Speaker 2: with the playoff committee and the players voted and said
Speaker 2: we're not going to play. I think if you gave
Speaker 2: them a couple of days to say, hey, we can
Speaker 2: still play as a team. We're not going to have everybody,
Speaker 2: but we still get to play as a team. You know,
Speaker 2: that would be a great way to end the season.
Speaker 2: Not the way we thought, but you know what, we're
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Let's go out headheld high, be proud of
Speaker 2: who we are and what we did this year. This
Speaker 2: isn't our fault, it's somebody else's. I mean, that would
Speaker 2: be the approach that I would have. But from what
Speaker 2: we're told, this was scheduled. This was really for the
Speaker 2: local media. Stat of the Day is always brought to
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Speaker 2: the final hour, and then we'll get to the popular
Speaker 2: Albert Brier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got up there right now, Philip Rivers coming
Speaker 4: back to the Colt. Seventy three percent of the audience
Speaker 4: have that as a terrible idea, and man, they're in trouble.
Speaker 4: Colt Chiefs, Eagles, ravens, cults are running away with that one.
Speaker 3: About half the vote.
Speaker 2: Albert Brier, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter. They
Speaker 2: call him Bert locally. I was watching the Patriots pregame
Speaker 2: show and all I know is Tom Kern and Michael
Speaker 2: Hawley kept saying, let's go out to Bert, and I go,
Speaker 2: who's Burt?
Speaker 5: Next?
Speaker 3: Thing I know, I got Albert Breer on the field.
Speaker 3: So should I call you Bert? You can call me.
Speaker 5: Whatever you want to.
Speaker 6: I never correct anybody on that, So whatever you're most
Speaker 6: comfortable with.
Speaker 2: I'm good with okay, If Philip Rivers is the answer,
Speaker 2: I don't want to know the question, but I do
Speaker 2: have aunse that question. If not Philip Rivers, what are
Speaker 2: the other options for the Colds as a backup quarterback
Speaker 2: or starting slashed backup quarterback?
Speaker 6: I mean the plan if it's not Riley Leonard, which
Speaker 6: we'll see, you know, you know he's got the spray knee.
Speaker 6: If it's not Riley Leonard, Brett Rippon, who does have
Speaker 6: experience and has played in the NFL, would probably be
Speaker 6: the next answer. And you'd be working out some guys
Speaker 6: on Tuesday, which is today, to try to try to
Speaker 6: figure out, you.
Speaker 5: Know, where you can go. This is really sort of a.
Speaker 6: You know, I got a perfect storm of quarterback crap,
Speaker 6: you know, like in dealing with with Daniel Jones getting
Speaker 6: hurt and I'm not making light of it, but like
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones having the torn achilles after playing on a
Speaker 6: fracture of fibula, Riley Leonard tweaks his knee, You've got
Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson who has the orbitable orbital injury. Like from
Speaker 6: what I understand, he's still resting that eye.
Speaker 7: There's no timetable for his return, and you know, you've
Speaker 7: got a team that's clearly reeling, there's lost three games
Speaker 7: in a row, that's got a gauntlet down the stretch,
Speaker 7: has Seattle in San Francisco the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: You know, if you're Chris Ballard and Shane Stikeen and
Speaker 6: the guy's in charge there, you're doing everything you can
Speaker 6: to try to create some level of hope that they can,
Speaker 6: you know, dig what was an incredibly promising season out
Speaker 6: of a ditch. And so I'm sure we'll get more
Speaker 6: into why Philip and all of that, but you know,
Speaker 6: there aren't a ton of options. We're past the trade deadline.
Speaker 6: You know, the guys that are out there out there
Speaker 6: for for for for a pretty for clear reason, you're
Speaker 6: not available at the most important position on the field
Speaker 6: at this time of year. If there are a lot
Speaker 6: of teams that think he can help, he.
Speaker 3: Hadn't played in five years now.
Speaker 2: Granted, yeah, I don't think his arm strength is going
Speaker 2: to be lesser because it wasn't great and didn't have mobility.
Speaker 2: But I mean, can you see a scenario where Philip
Speaker 2: Rivers is playing football the rest of the season, Well.
Speaker 6: So, he had his workout last night, and my understanding
Speaker 6: as he threw up pretty well, but like you said,
Speaker 6: like I think you sort of expect that.
Speaker 5: I remember having this conversation with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 6: Earlier this year and he said to me, He's like,
Speaker 6: I think I'm going to be able to throw at
Speaker 6: an NFL level until I'm fifty. He's like, I don't
Speaker 6: think my arm strength is going away. And I think anybody,
Speaker 6: like even like a suburban dad like me, like I
Speaker 6: can go out and throw the football in the backyard.
Speaker 5: I can't run like I used to, but I can
Speaker 5: go out and throw the ball to my kids.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: So I think that's one of the lot that's one
Speaker 6: of those things where it's like, yes, he can still
Speaker 6: throw the ball. He's been coaching high school football, so
Speaker 6: he's been around it, coaching his son down there in Alabama,
Speaker 6: and you know, he has been working out and training
Speaker 6: NFL and college quarterbacks over the last few years. So
Speaker 6: he's stayed connected, he's stayed working. He's still throwing. That's
Speaker 6: not the question. The question is can he still move
Speaker 6: around enough to protect himself. Has he been doing the
Speaker 6: work to keep himself in the shape, to the shape
Speaker 6: he needs to be in to do that, you know,
Speaker 6: And then I.
Speaker 5: Think the big question is how how are you going
Speaker 5: to take a hit?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 6: That's the thing is, like I don't think anybody can
Speaker 6: project you know what it's what's going to happen if
Speaker 6: he were out there on Sunday and you know, Byron
Speaker 6: Murphy the three technique from Seattle gets through the line
Speaker 6: and buries him.
Speaker 5: Like is he going to be able to get up
Speaker 5: from that?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 5: I think that's probably the biggest question.
Speaker 6: And you know, I think the timing of it is
Speaker 6: a question too.
Speaker 5: You mentioned the five year layoff. You remember Drew Henson right.
Speaker 3: Yep, back in the day.
Speaker 6: So for those who don't know, if Drew Henson, you know,
Speaker 6: had come out of Michigan, you know, in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: two and it kept playing.
Speaker 5: Football at Michigan. If he had come out in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6: Two, he might have been a contender to be the
Speaker 6: first overall pick. Instead, he takes the money and goes
Speaker 6: in place for the Yankees. That doesn't work out. He
Speaker 6: tried to come back to football.
Speaker 5: A few years later.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I remember talking to some Cowboys people
Speaker 6: I covered the Cowboys on the beat a few years
Speaker 6: after that, and I remember having just casual conversation with
Speaker 6: people about Drew Henson and why.
Speaker 5: He didn't make it, because physically it's very talent.
Speaker 6: He was a really good quarterback at Michigan, the successor
Speaker 6: to Tom Brady there. And you know what the Cowboys
Speaker 6: people said to me was, you don't understand when you're
Speaker 6: away from it, how quickly the timing goes away, and
Speaker 6: how hard it is to replicate that, and all the
Speaker 6: things that go along with being able to stand in
Speaker 6: the pocket with your eyes downfield, with you know, two
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty three hundred pound guys who are elite
Speaker 6: athletes coming at you at full speed, like there's no
Speaker 6: way to replicate that. So if you're out of it
Speaker 6: for a few years, it's hard to get it back.
Speaker 6: And there's thing was, that's what happened to Drew Henson, right,
Speaker 6: wouldn't that apply here to I mean, I know Rivers
Speaker 6: obviously has a ton more experience, but if you've been
Speaker 6: out of it, I would think the timing.
Speaker 5: Of it would be an issue too.
Speaker 6: So there's a ton of reason to ask questions about it,
Speaker 6: you know, And I like I think, you know, if
Speaker 6: if nothing else like this at least shows the Colts
Speaker 6: locker room that this stiching and ball are doing everything
Speaker 6: they possibly can to create some modicum of hope. You know,
Speaker 6: whether or not it can actually work, I think, you know,
Speaker 6: I don't know that anybody has the answer to that question,
Speaker 6: because this feels pretty unprecedented.
Speaker 2: You know, why is the trade deadline where it is
Speaker 2: during the season, Well.
Speaker 6: I mean the main reason is so you don't see
Speaker 6: teams dumping players late. That's the main thing is. You know,
Speaker 6: what what the NFL want wants to avoid is a
Speaker 6: situation where you have you know, some three win team
Speaker 6: or two win team, and the general managers or buddies
Speaker 6: or whatever, and you see competitive balance getting thrown off
Speaker 6: because this player or that player is getting moved to
Speaker 6: another team at the end of the year. Now that
Speaker 6: team that's already non competitive becomes even less competitive.
Speaker 5: I think it has more to do with that in
Speaker 5: that like your team.
Speaker 6: Is your team, they have done work to move it back.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know this DP as well as anybody,
Speaker 6: Like the last few years, they have you know, been
Speaker 6: in those situations where it's like okay, like we're going
Speaker 6: to move it back another week. And I've actually seen
Speaker 6: some of the data on this, which is interesting that
Speaker 6: the percentage of the season that's done when they have
Speaker 6: a trade deadline is lower in football than it is
Speaker 6: in baseball or basketball. And the case for moving it
Speaker 6: back even further than it is now is to kind
Speaker 6: of get it up to that standard that you see
Speaker 6: in other sports. But the main reason why is like
Speaker 6: the NFL wants to avoid a situation where you.
Speaker 5: Know, you have teams end in November beginning of December.
Speaker 6: Dumping all of these players can affect attendance at games,
Speaker 6: can affect the the competitiveness of certain matchups.
Speaker 5: That's really the reason and why.
Speaker 2: Talking Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback, senior NFL reporter,
Speaker 2: you have this proliferation of long field goals in the NFL,
Speaker 2: and we're about aesthetics.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if the Competition committee has ever
Speaker 2: addressed can you raise the crossbar? Like is there something
Speaker 2: that they've gotten too good at this?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 3: Just like the extra.
Speaker 2: Point that would maybe change the philosophy of all these
Speaker 2: longer field goals here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there are there are things you could
Speaker 6: do you could raise the crossbar, you could narrow the uprights.
Speaker 6: You know, I think you got to look at the
Speaker 6: reasoning why this is happening too. Like, I had a
Speaker 6: really good conversation with Nick Folk about this, you know,
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, and he's obviously been doing it.
Speaker 5: For a long long time.
Speaker 6: I believe this is his nineteenth year in the NFL,
Speaker 6: And so I asked him, I said, like, what do
Speaker 6: you think it is? He said, the caball is definitely
Speaker 6: a factor. Now again, for those who don't know.
Speaker 3: Explain the cable, explain explain the cable.
Speaker 5: Right, So, like, I guess we can relate this to
Speaker 5: the flightgate.
Speaker 6: Like, quarterbacks have always been given the opportunity to prepare
Speaker 6: balls right to so they can have each game ball
Speaker 6: just as.
Speaker 5: They like it for game day.
Speaker 6: So the quarterbacks have always had that opportunity to do that.
Speaker 6: They don't They didn't allow kickers to do that until
Speaker 6: this year. So now kickers have the same opportunity to
Speaker 6: prepare the caballs, which are the balls that are there.
Speaker 5: For the kickers.
Speaker 6: The kickers and punters can prepare the balls the same
Speaker 6: way the quarterbacks do for game day. So I think
Speaker 6: most kickers would tell you that's a factor. I don't
Speaker 6: know exactly what they're doing, whether I actually asked him,
Speaker 6: I said, is there something everyone's doing to the ball.
Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know. I just haven't talked to
Speaker 5: enough people to know.
Speaker 6: But I'm sure that everybody's done research onto it and
Speaker 6: looked into it and it's doing something that's helping them.
Speaker 5: So that's number one.
Speaker 6: The second thing that folks said to me was more interesting, though,
Speaker 6: He said, because it's become so competitive for college scholarships.
Speaker 6: And then obviously, you know spots in the NFL. You know,
Speaker 6: you what you're seeing is better athletes the position now.
Speaker 6: And so you've got a guy who you know, is
Speaker 6: a really good high school player who's maybe a really
Speaker 6: good high school receiver or a really good high school
Speaker 6: corner or a really good high school linebacker, and maybe
Speaker 6: he could play Division two or three college football. But
Speaker 6: if he learns how to kick, he can kick at Alabama,
Speaker 6: or he can kick at Oregon, or he can kick
Speaker 6: at Ohio State.
Speaker 3: And so now you.
Speaker 6: Have these guys who are like really good athletes in
Speaker 6: their own right, who are probably you know, college football
Speaker 6: players at a baseline and now they're learning how to kick,
Speaker 6: and so you have these guys who are more explosive,
Speaker 6: who have better legs learning how to do it. You
Speaker 6: add on too that some of the personal training they're
Speaker 6: getting and better athletes are making it at that position.
Speaker 6: He had mentioned actually Tyler Loop, who is the Ravens kicker,
Speaker 6: who was from the University of Arizona.
Speaker 5: Which is Folks alma mater.
Speaker 6: He said he worked out with him and he was like,
Speaker 6: I couldn't believe, Like when I talked to the strength
Speaker 6: coaches at Arizona what sort of athlete he was. He
Speaker 6: said he was like a twenty one or twenty two
Speaker 6: mile an hour guy on the GPS, which is insane,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, that's not that far
Speaker 6: off from what like the field players you know, run.
Speaker 6: So I think it's a number of factors, and you know,
Speaker 6: I don't know exactly how you address it, but I
Speaker 6: do think that that's the one part.
Speaker 5: That you that you really won't change.
Speaker 6: You know, you could go back to the old rules
Speaker 6: and the CA balls and everything else. But I mean
Speaker 6: the fact that there are better athletes that are more
Speaker 6: specialized doing it.
Speaker 5: I think as a factor as well.
Speaker 3: How many head coaching vacancies do you think we're going
Speaker 3: to have?
Speaker 5: I mean I think the normal number probably seven or eight.
Speaker 3: You know you felt total with like what happened with
Speaker 3: the Giant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you have the Giants and the Titans.
Speaker 6: Now, you know, I think there are definitely some like
Speaker 6: that have come up that maybe we didn't expect to
Speaker 6: months ago. Atlanta, Arizona would probably be in that bucket
Speaker 6: that are at least going to be, you know, under
Speaker 6: some level of evaluation.
Speaker 5: What does Cleveland do?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 5: And then you have like your curve ball.
Speaker 6: You know, like that would be like if Pittsburgh and
Speaker 6: I don't think this would be a firing, but if
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin have a mutual parting.
Speaker 5: So I think we'll get to that number to seven
Speaker 5: or eight.
Speaker 6: And you know the interesting thing about it is, I
Speaker 6: think a lot of teams are gonna have to evaluate
Speaker 6: this Dan and say, is what's behind door number two
Speaker 6: worth getting rid of what we know is.
Speaker 3: Already behind door Penn State?
Speaker 6: Right, I mean, I think that's that's going to be
Speaker 6: it for a lot of these teams because I would
Speaker 6: make this argument, right, I think if you's today December ninth, right,
Speaker 6: So if you ask me on December ninth, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 6: I would have told you Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel
Speaker 6: are going to be head coaches next year. I don't
Speaker 6: know where. I can't tell you exactly where, but those
Speaker 6: two guys are going to be head coaches next year.
Speaker 6: I'd even maybe have given you Aaron Glenn at that time.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm pretty sure he's go at one?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 5: Who is that this year?
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a hot guy and that's it,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like, I like, you have some interesting names, like Jesse
Speaker 6: Mentor has done a great job with the Chargers defense.
Speaker 6: I think Mike McDonald because their similar background helps him
Speaker 6: a lot.
Speaker 5: Mike McDonald's had great success in Seattle. Of course.
Speaker 6: You know Chris Shula, who's you know, got the bloodlines
Speaker 6: of course, is in the RAMS program. Like he's another one,
Speaker 6: like the hot offensive guy, I mean, who is it now?
Speaker 6: I mean, Joe Brady's had like a little bit of
Speaker 6: an up and down year in Buffalo. He's interviewed really well,
Speaker 6: so I think if the bill's finished strong, maybe he
Speaker 6: becomes the guy you know, and then you've got a
Speaker 6: couple of the second chance guys, you know, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 6: I think will be in the mix, But I don't
Speaker 6: know like that you would look at it right now
Speaker 6: and say yes, like this guy will be a head
Speaker 6: coach next year. And you had at least a couple
Speaker 6: of those guys last year. And I think in most
Speaker 6: years you have at least a couple of guys where
Speaker 6: you can say, yeah, like that guy's going to be
Speaker 6: a head coach this year. And so if you're a
Speaker 6: team that's like considering a changer, you're on the fence.
Speaker 6: Maybe that gets your your guy a stay of execution.
Speaker 6: I even argue with Miami right like where Mike McDaniel
Speaker 6: has now you know, like resurrected, you know, like perception.
Speaker 6: I it was interesting because I was having these conversations
Speaker 6: with some people with the Dolphins, and you know what
Speaker 6: one person told me is like that Steve Ross was
Speaker 6: hearing the buzz that Mike McDaniel will be a great
Speaker 6: second chance head coach. And it caused Ross to say, well,
Speaker 6: wait a second, then, why why would we get.
Speaker 5: Rid of him?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like like if.
Speaker 6: He's going to be such a good it's gonna be
Speaker 6: such a good hire for somebody the second time around.
Speaker 6: Why aren't we trying harder to see if we can
Speaker 6: make the first time around work. So if you're them
Speaker 6: now and you're the Dolphins, you're looking at it and
Speaker 6: you're saying, Okay, we fired the general manager. Now Mike
Speaker 6: McDaniel has this team at six and seven and going
Speaker 6: into Pittsburgh on Monday with a chance to get to
Speaker 6: five hundred.
Speaker 5: Were eliminated from the playoffs. We haven't lost since we
Speaker 5: fired the GM on Halloween. I wouldn't you think twice
Speaker 5: about that? So I think that's part of the equation
Speaker 5: for a lot of these teams.
Speaker 3: Thanks again, Bert, good to have you on.
Speaker 8: You got it.
Speaker 5: You can call me whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks senior NFL reporter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I stumbled onto the Patriots pregame show and our good
Speaker 2: buddy Tom Kerr and Michael Holly, They're like.
Speaker 3: Let's go out to Bert.
Speaker 2: I go who is Burt And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's Albert Breer there on the sidelines.
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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up once again, Notre Dame as
Speaker 2: a press conference at the top of the hour. From
Speaker 2: everything we've been told, this isn't a big announcement or
Speaker 2: maybe no real big announcement or declaration here. It's somewhat
Speaker 2: scheduled for the end of the football season. Just happens
Speaker 2: to coincide with the interview with the athletic director yesterday,
Speaker 2: Reggie Aloysius Miller Junior, the third Hall of Famer NBC
Speaker 2: Sports NBA lead game analyst. We're twenty five games in
Speaker 2: this is when we start to go okay, now it
Speaker 2: feels like it's a little bit more than just a trend.
Speaker 3: It becomes a real story. So if that's the case,
Speaker 3: what would be the number one story?
Speaker 2: Well, maybe it's OKAC is so much better than everybody else?
Speaker 2: Would that be the number of number one story for you?
Speaker 9: I think yes, because now everyone it's gonna be on
Speaker 9: the tip of people's tongue. Can they eclipse that Golden
Speaker 9: State record of winning seventy three seventy four games and
Speaker 9: at the end of it winning the championship? People need
Speaker 9: to remember the Warriors had that best record, but they
Speaker 9: lost in the finals. So I think people still view
Speaker 9: the Bulls because of that seventy.
Speaker 10: Two and ten record ended up winning the championship.
Speaker 9: I think everyone's thinking, when is OKC gonna lose again?
Speaker 9: That would probably be the number one story, and to me,
Speaker 9: the number two story. We didn't think Luca and the
Speaker 9: Lakers would.
Speaker 5: Be this game.
Speaker 9: No one thought Lebron would be the third wheel on
Speaker 9: this team, which he is, and that's a heck of
Speaker 9: a third will to have. Austin Reeves is playing like
Speaker 9: an All Star are in a contract year. I didn't
Speaker 9: have the Lakers being this good, the question going forward
Speaker 9: can they sustain it in health will be a big
Speaker 9: issue in my opinion for the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to when Luca was in Dallas and
Speaker 2: I know that we corresponded and you had said Luca
Speaker 2: was out of shape. I don't know the exact language,
Speaker 2: but then I know after the game you started to
Speaker 2: wonder did you take a step too far? You know,
Speaker 2: did you were you overly critical? And I wonder, looking
Speaker 2: back on that, what kind of role do you think
Speaker 2: that played it all with Luca the Mavericks and maybe
Speaker 2: where he is right now with the Lakers.
Speaker 9: I think the comments Kevin and I made, not necessarily
Speaker 9: about his weight, but being in shape to play at
Speaker 9: an NBA level. And if you listen to Luca's comments
Speaker 9: the day after, he echoed what we said, like, yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm not in the best of shape, could be in
Speaker 9: better shape. So he kind of piggyback what we said,
Speaker 9: and he knew. I mean, because whenever I say things,
Speaker 9: it comes from a place of truth and love. I'm
Speaker 9: not going to sugarcoat anything, and I would always want
Speaker 9: someone to tell me the truth as well. When I
Speaker 9: was a player, I respect that more so, I think
Speaker 9: he respected kind of what we were saying.
Speaker 10: And you fast.
Speaker 9: Forward to now, JJ Reddick basically said the same thing
Speaker 9: in their postseason meetings, you got to get in better shape.
Speaker 5: Well what does he do.
Speaker 9: He goes back to Slovenia, He gets in the best shape,
Speaker 9: plays unbelievable, the leading scorer in euro Basket, carries that
Speaker 9: over into this year and he's leading the league in score.
Speaker 10: But more importantly, it just looks better for him.
Speaker 9: He's moving better, there's more fluidity to his game. Not
Speaker 9: to say that he couldn't have done that playing the
Speaker 9: way he played in Dallas, but I think long, big,
Speaker 9: and long picture for Luca and the Lakers.
Speaker 10: If he stays in.
Speaker 9: This shape, I just think the numbers are going to
Speaker 9: go through the roof because there's longevity, there's staying power
Speaker 9: when he plays at this weight and he looks this
Speaker 9: good Theodore.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of revisionist history too with Austin
Speaker 2: Reeves because I didn't see this, No, I don't know
Speaker 2: who did. But I remember talking to two college basketball
Speaker 2: analysts and I said, do you remember Austin Reeves with
Speaker 2: this potential? And they're like, well, you know, you could
Speaker 2: see if he was gonna go really.
Speaker 9: To me, no one thought this look, no one thought
Speaker 9: this coming. And again I always tell people this. You're
Speaker 9: a product of your environment. He went undrafted and he
Speaker 9: wanted to sign with the Lakers. He saw a fit
Speaker 9: in a place where he thought he could build a
Speaker 9: Niche he took a game on himself, Dan, and knocked
Speaker 9: on wood health provided. I think it's gonna pay off
Speaker 9: because the Lakers or someone is going to have to
Speaker 9: pay him because he is a legitimate number one on
Speaker 9: a bad team. If he goes somewhere else, so he
Speaker 9: could be a number one on a bad team, or
Speaker 9: if he stays with the Lakers, be an unbelievable Robin
Speaker 9: to Batman because he has certainly taken that role from Lebron,
Speaker 9: and I think they respect that.
Speaker 10: So right now he's in the cat.
Speaker 9: First seat, and he controls his own destiny as long
Speaker 9: as he continues to play like.
Speaker 10: This and understand and know his role, which he plays perfectly.
Speaker 3: Is she gonna get fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 10: I mean that's what it looks like.
Speaker 9: I mean, Dan, I'm not gonna you can't fault that
Speaker 9: he has put in the work. Think about how he's
Speaker 9: come along when he was thrust into it with just Lebron,
Speaker 9: and Lebron was giving him. I remember a clip when
Speaker 9: Lebron was explaining something to him and he looked like
Speaker 9: a deer in headlights. Lebron was explaining a rotation on
Speaker 9: the floor and he was like looking.
Speaker 10: Like like, what do I do? I rotate?
Speaker 9: And you fast forward to now he is one of
Speaker 9: the biggest vote voices on this Lakers team. So fifty
Speaker 9: million is coming his way, either from the Lakers or
Speaker 9: from someone else. The matter will begue, will it be
Speaker 9: for five years or four years? He's getting it somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't be grudging making the money. It's
Speaker 2: you go from undrafted to your kind of there and
Speaker 2: then you would see like little bits and pieces where
Speaker 2: you go. All right, I didn't get a shot, all right,
Speaker 2: you can get to the hole, all right. He's a
Speaker 2: great And then all of a sudden Lebron goes out,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Austin Reeves or Luca's out,
Speaker 2: and then Austin Reeves is like, uh, do I need
Speaker 2: to get forty like that? Doesn't you know? That's that's
Speaker 2: it's hard to compute where you go. I can go
Speaker 2: out and get forty you know, a couple of times here,
Speaker 2: or I can be a twenty five point scorer. I
Speaker 2: guess it was just the surprising element of And somebody
Speaker 2: told me who works with the Lakers. We saw him
Speaker 2: in practice, and you know, playing in practice, sometimes you'll
Speaker 2: see somebody and you'll go, what man.
Speaker 10: Great practice player?
Speaker 3: But yeah, exactly, yeah, and.
Speaker 10: It translates the games.
Speaker 9: And this is why I tell kids in high school
Speaker 9: and college players alike, rankings really don't mean anything.
Speaker 10: They don't.
Speaker 9: It's what's in your heart, and it's how you developed.
Speaker 9: I was a late bloomer and I came on late.
Speaker 9: I was late to be recruited by UCLA. I was
Speaker 9: slow to develop. At UCLA. They brought me along slow,
Speaker 9: which was great because they allowed me to grow into
Speaker 9: my game. And I think Austin Rivers is like that
Speaker 9: as well. So don't worry about rankings, don't worry about
Speaker 9: what other people say. As long as you put the
Speaker 9: grind in and the hard work, the fruits of your
Speaker 9: labor will come out. Finding the right fit. Would he
Speaker 9: be the successful if he was in Minnesota, if he
Speaker 9: was in Charlotte, We don't know.
Speaker 10: Sometimes it's the right fit.
Speaker 9: And let's give Rob po Lincoln and that staff a
Speaker 9: lot of credit for taking a gamble. Sometimes you got
Speaker 9: to take a gamble, a risky gamble, and it pays
Speaker 9: off and it works out.
Speaker 3: Talking to Red G.
Speaker 2: Miller, the Hall of Famer, when do the Bucks decide
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do with Giannis?
Speaker 10: To me, it's got to be sooner than later.
Speaker 9: And if you're Doc Rivers, and I know he said
Speaker 9: all the right things that Giannis has not come out
Speaker 9: and said he wants to be traded. But you just
Speaker 9: have to figure are we wasting this young man's nine
Speaker 9: years here. They've tried to do everything to surround him
Speaker 9: with talent. Now he's got to stay on the court.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: I know he's had some nagging, nagging injuries this last
Speaker 9: this year as well as towards the end of last year.
Speaker 9: To me, he doesn't want to be the a hole.
Speaker 9: He doesn't want to come out and be demonstrative and
Speaker 9: say I want to be traded.
Speaker 10: But to me, he he has earned the right. He
Speaker 10: brought them a championship.
Speaker 2: But he's got to be careful that he doesn't say
Speaker 2: I want to go to the Knicks. He's got to
Speaker 2: be I'm open to being.
Speaker 9: Travers to be behind closed doors with him, and I'm
Speaker 9: sure he's he's voiced that, but he just can't public
Speaker 9: publicly come out and say I want to go to
Speaker 9: the Knicks, which everyone that's our job. But everyone's formulating
Speaker 9: the numbers. Will it be Miami, will it be New York?
Speaker 9: Could it be La? Who do you is really in
Speaker 9: this deal? I mean, there's there's so many ways that
Speaker 9: people are crunching the numbers. It just from a basketball standpoint,
Speaker 9: then you know this, him in New York just makes sense,
Speaker 9: doesn't it?
Speaker 10: Him? Paired?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 3: But who does?
Speaker 2: You got to look at both sides of the deal.
Speaker 2: People only look at one side and they go, man,
Speaker 2: you're honest with the Knicks. Okay, who are the Bucks
Speaker 2: going to get? And you go, you know what, we
Speaker 2: did the best we could. We have Karl Anthony Towns,
Speaker 2: and we have Michel Bridges, and we have what is
Speaker 2: that enough?
Speaker 9: And probably a protected pick. I mean, if you're if
Speaker 9: you're Milwaukee, and I can get Karl Anthony Towns, who's
Speaker 9: an all star, one of the premier shooting big men.
Speaker 9: Our game has ever seen. And Michael Bridges, who hasn't
Speaker 9: missed the game since his seventh grade AAU team, so
Speaker 9: you know he's reliable and will play. You're getting two
Speaker 9: guys that I've been I know you'll never get fair value.
Speaker 9: You're never gonna get equal trade value for yan Man.
Speaker 3: But you don't want draft picks you would you wanted.
Speaker 9: I need a couple of draft picks as well. I
Speaker 9: need those two guys, and I need two first round picks.
Speaker 10: Let's shake hands and call it a day.
Speaker 2: You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, and I
Speaker 2: have a friend who works in the NBA, and he goes,
Speaker 2: what's Reggie smoking? When you said con Canipple and his
Speaker 2: three point shooting? And I said, I think Reggie firmly
Speaker 2: believes conk Nipple he's going to set the all time
Speaker 2: rookie record for three pointers made. That's yeah, that's a given.
Speaker 9: The question will be here's the thing, when people say,
Speaker 9: you know what am I smoking? The question will be
Speaker 9: for con will he be a go to guy? Like
Speaker 9: how Steph was a go to guy from years five
Speaker 9: through now? Because at first three or four years, he
Speaker 9: he was injury riddled yea. So Con will have those
Speaker 9: numbers on Steph the first three years. The question going
Speaker 9: forward for Con will be in year four and five,
Speaker 9: where's his development and where is he in the pecking
Speaker 9: order if he is even if he's still in Charlotte,
Speaker 9: who even knows if he'll be there. That's will he
Speaker 9: have the longevity because Steph has always had the longevity
Speaker 9: after year four and he was the go to guy?
Speaker 9: Will Con be a go to guy? And will he
Speaker 9: always get these get the opportunities that Steph has gotten.
Speaker 9: Who knows, But if you're going to go by the
Speaker 9: first two or three years, Con will have the numbers
Speaker 9: on Steph.
Speaker 2: Do you know who has the rookie record for most
Speaker 2: three pointers? Mate, Paulie said, I would be shocked. Now
Speaker 2: is this a recent guy, Paulie?
Speaker 12: Yeah, he's still pretty young. He plays in a town
Speaker 12: that doesn't get a ton of bridge on the NBA calendar,
Speaker 12: Trey Young, Keegan Murray two hundred and sixty threes.
Speaker 13: Woah with your kings Dan, Wow, your guy Con right now?
Speaker 13: What is that number, by the way, two thirty six
Speaker 13: two six two So Keegan Murray Kanknipple right now is
Speaker 13: on pace for two hundred and sixty three threes.
Speaker 3: He blow away the record. Yeah, dang, But he plays
Speaker 3: in Charlotte.
Speaker 10: That's the problem.
Speaker 9: And will he stay in Charlotte his whole career or
Speaker 9: will someone come a calling?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 9: So, does he stay healthy? And will he ever be
Speaker 9: a go to guy like Stephan Curry? He's not even
Speaker 9: a go to guy on.
Speaker 10: Charlotte right now.
Speaker 9: The reason why he's getting all these threes is Lamel
Speaker 9: has been in and out of the lineups. Brandon Miller
Speaker 9: has been in and out of the lineups, so the
Speaker 9: opportunity is there. I would I'm curious to see once
Speaker 9: everyone is healthy, does he still get these looks, which
Speaker 9: I hope he does because he's a fly out shooter.
Speaker 10: But again, view him on his first three.
Speaker 9: Years versus steph first three years. He'll have the numbers.
Speaker 9: The question will be going forward, will be year.
Speaker 8: Four on.
Speaker 2: Can the Hornets be a playoff team if LaMelo Ball
Speaker 2: is your best player?
Speaker 3: No, No, nothing to happen there.
Speaker 9: I love, I love LaMelo, but LaMelo has to stay healthy,
Speaker 9: and to me, he just has to.
Speaker 2: He's just a curiosity, He's a curios He's just a
Speaker 2: he's a guy out there having fun, But I I
Speaker 2: don't think I.
Speaker 9: Would love to see him on a really, really good
Speaker 9: team where every possession matters.
Speaker 3: PAULI, what what do you have.
Speaker 12: Reggie Miller's total threes as a rook By the way,
Speaker 12: Reggie came off the bench as a rookie, so he
Speaker 12: played eighty two games, started one. He was sixty one
Speaker 12: for one seventy two as a rookie. Sixty one threes.
Speaker 9: And I broke Larry birds record. Yes, record, that was
Speaker 9: breaking Larry Birds record. I think Larry Bird had like
Speaker 9: fifty seven.
Speaker 5: Right, Polly, that's right.
Speaker 10: I broke it with sixty one.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 10: And what is calling at right now currently?
Speaker 3: Is that eighty one?
Speaker 9: Come on, man, and we're not even We're only a
Speaker 9: quarter up to the season.
Speaker 3: I know he's gonna and there.
Speaker 8: Do your homework.
Speaker 10: Do your homework.
Speaker 3: What did reggie average assist was?
Speaker 12: I think he had three assists that season. Now you
Speaker 12: know you have one hundred and thirty two assistans. No,
Speaker 12: you could pass if you wanted to.
Speaker 10: No, right, thank you, Theodore.
Speaker 9: If I wanted, if you just did not The Pacers
Speaker 9: leader put the ball in the back five minutes left
Speaker 9: in the game, closed the game. That's what it said
Speaker 9: up my bio. Oh dude, okay, that was my job
Speaker 9: description when they hired me.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I love that Reggie would pass it, but he wanted
Speaker 2: it back after he passed, I pass it, I'll pass
Speaker 2: it back. Uh.
Speaker 3: What's his career high assist in a game in.
Speaker 12: A game in a season?
Speaker 10: One footble double? That was it?
Speaker 12: Okay, I got eleven assists in a game for Reggie.
Speaker 12: His best season, he averaged fours is a game year five?
Speaker 10: Wow, why are you looking at me like that, Theodore,
Speaker 10: I don't know. The game has changed today.
Speaker 9: We have a point guard that distributed the ball. We
Speaker 9: had shooting guards that shot the ball. We had small
Speaker 9: forwards who were like wing players who defended.
Speaker 3: How many how many assisted? He assisted? Bird average when
Speaker 3: he was playing.
Speaker 2: Because he had a point guard, he ended up getting
Speaker 2: you know, seven eight, that's different.
Speaker 5: Different.
Speaker 12: Larry Bird's best season he averaged seven and a half
Speaker 12: a siss a game.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just saying he was a shooter and a rebounder,
Speaker 2: but also passing.
Speaker 3: You were coming up with excuses.
Speaker 9: There no no, no excuse. It's just knowing my role.
Speaker 9: That's the key for eighteen years plus is knowing your role?
Speaker 3: Were you ever first or second or thirteen? Old defense? No?
Speaker 9: No, Now what they should have had a category for
Speaker 9: was I could have been first, second, thirteen?
Speaker 12: All team.
Speaker 10: I was a great team help.
Speaker 3: You were a helper, a.
Speaker 10: Great help defender.
Speaker 9: So when someone got beat slide over and then let
Speaker 9: Dale and Rick and.
Speaker 2: Wait, but you were guarding shooting guards. You're the one
Speaker 2: that needed team help.
Speaker 10: I forced them into the Hell.
Speaker 1: Oh that's.
Speaker 10: Help for them to.
Speaker 5: Help.
Speaker 3: Hell, somebody pick up Kobe. Somebody get Kobe help help. Uh,
Speaker 3: thank you, Rech, good to talk to you.
Speaker 10: Appreciate your Theodore. Thank you Daniels. PAULI, great job on no.
Speaker 2: Staff, Frich, what you do you get an assist there, Paulie,
Speaker 2: that's what you get.
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Speaker 2: What we learned? What since store tomorrow? Paul Finebaum's gonna
Speaker 2: join us on the program tomorrow. He'll be fired up,
Speaker 2: he'll be ripping Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: Let me guess everybody, but the SEC stinks?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yes, something like that as a previews.
Speaker 2: Yeah Jason in Wisconsin, Hi, Jas, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey dd?
Speaker 8: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Great?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 8: Great? Great? A five to ten A structure? Add listen
Speaker 8: this this Notre Dame foolishness. Right. They have more responsibility
Speaker 8: in this whole mess than the selection committee. Now, did
Speaker 8: the selection committee screwed up by having Miami ranked ahead
Speaker 8: of them all cs? Yes, so let's go back Notre Dame.
Speaker 8: You wanted to be independent, you got it. You wanted
Speaker 8: to have a part time relationship with the ACC, you
Speaker 8: got it. You wanted to make your own schedule, you
Speaker 8: got it. You decided to lose to Miami. You decided
Speaker 8: to lose to Texas A and m what's the ACC
Speaker 8: supposed to do if not goes to a bowl? How
Speaker 8: much of that money does the ACCC?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Look, you make valid points here. I'm not defending Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: It's about the rankings, that's all. Notre Dame lost to Miami,
Speaker 2: lost to Texas A and m But why the switch
Speaker 2: in the rankings.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: That's all I've said. And we had all of the information.
Speaker 2: We knew they lost to Miami. We knew they lost
Speaker 2: to A and m We knew everything about Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: They were done playing. Nothing changed, Miami wasn't in the
Speaker 2: ACC title game. Nothing changed. Something happened in the room.
Speaker 5: That's all.
Speaker 2: I go back, and I'm gonna put the onus on you.
Speaker 2: If this was reversed, the outcry would be leading every show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Notre Dame got in over Miami. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: brand I mean, come on, just be There's a difference
Speaker 2: between I'm gonna be fair to the situation or I
Speaker 2: hate Notre Dame. And there's more people that don't like
Speaker 2: Notre Dame because Notre Dame is playing by their own rules. Yes,
Speaker 2: the fact that the college Football Playoff Committee let Notre
Speaker 2: Dame somehow come up with a document that said, if
Speaker 2: we're in the top twelve next year, we're automatically in
Speaker 2: the playoffs.
Speaker 3: So explain that, Yeah, Pull, I.
Speaker 12: Don't know if there's a team in America pro or
Speaker 12: college that's more polarizing. No one's casual about Notre Dame.
Speaker 12: You either are a fan and have been for life,
Speaker 12: or you really really don't like them, and that's what
Speaker 12: the coverage of the past two days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to be as neutral, you know, nonpartisan,
Speaker 2: unbiased as possible. But hey, because I had him on
Speaker 2: and I gave him the opportunity than a all of
Speaker 2: a sudden a mouthpiece or I let him just talk.
Speaker 2: You know, if the Miami AD and they didn't get in,
Speaker 2: I would have invited the Miami ad on.
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: This is more than Notre Dame. But people just want
Speaker 2: to make it Notre Dame. That's where you know your
Speaker 2: arguments are faulty. This day in sports history, Paul.
Speaker 12: Eric Dickerson of the Rams became the second running back
Speaker 12: to run for more than two thousand yards in a season.
Speaker 12: That was nineteen eighty four. And then Dan one of
Speaker 12: my favorites, if you permit me, Walter Payton and the
Speaker 12: Chicago Bears ran six plays at quarterback and I don't
Speaker 12: have the stats here by this is QBR. I think
Speaker 12: he was six for six with six touchdowns, but I
Speaker 12: have to double check.
Speaker 3: Probably so, probably so.
Speaker 2: Also twenty thirteen, the Bears retired Mike Dick's number eighty
Speaker 2: nine Jersey, Wait a while. Yeah, yeah, I still have
Speaker 2: a mirror. It's a cigar mirror from his bar. It's
Speaker 2: out in the hallway as you lead right down the
Speaker 2: hallway towards it's Mario after long. Yeah, but I saw it.
Speaker 2: It was in the bathroom and I said, I said, Coach,
Speaker 2: I'd love to have this. He goes take it off
Speaker 2: the wall. So I had somebody help me take it
Speaker 2: off the wall. What did I learn today?
Speaker 1: Todd?
Speaker 3: On this award nominated program.
Speaker 13: Albert Bruce says, not to make light of it, but
Speaker 13: the cult situation has become a perfect storm of quarterback crap.
Speaker 3: Our pleasure to serve, you had fun.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Fritzy Seat and Marv Pauli years
Speaker 2: truly and the Brgs.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow.