1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: My name has met, my name is no. They called 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this the stuff they 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. You know a time of 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: the week it is, fellow conspiracy realist. If you're listening 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to this on the day the show comes out, Welcome 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: back to Strange News. This is where my colleagues and 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: I dig deep into the minds of the Internet and 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: into the minds of people who work in the world 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: of things fringe to find stories that either haven't made 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: it to the news, will give us some important doors 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: for discussion in future episodes, or uh, we just need 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: to talk about And I was thinking, you guys know, 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: I've been working on trying to be a bit more 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: of a positive person with mixed results. I was thinking 21 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: we could open today's show up with a special congratulations 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: to sixty one people in the UK who recently, uh 23 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: recently got out of a tough situation. We all know 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: the band Oasis. There's a cover band called no Oasis 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: that was playing a gig that's supposed to be a 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: one night gig at a remote bar in the UK, 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: but unfortunately, due to a storm, they were stuck there 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: until for three days, up until a couple hours before 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: we recorded this episode. So they're out. Congratulations. I don't 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: know when it will be, when enough time will have 31 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: passed for them to hear Wonder Wall without you know, 32 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: reliving the events, But I had to ask you, guys. 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: I knew we've talked a little bit about Oasis off air. 34 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: You guys are Oasis fans still, right? I think that 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: just hit us at the right generation fan, I like, 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean they had some bangers. I like, 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: don't look back in anger a lot. I don't know 38 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: that I know any deep cuts really, I never really 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: like jumped on the Oasis train, but um, they certainly 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: occupied a place in my youth, there's no question about that. Yeah, 41 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I still don't know what the wonder Wall is. I 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: don't think Noel Gallagher does either. I don't think so. Yeah, 43 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: they were. They were definitely that like this generation's Beatles, right, 44 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: But fortunately, unfortunately this past week is when that Beatles 45 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: documentary finally dropped and we got to all learn collectively 46 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: how I think It's Get Back was written because John 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Lennon was late. That's right. Yeah, I've only made it 48 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: about halfway through the first part. It's quite long and uh, 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: incredible footage. It really shows, you know, there are all 50 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: these rumors and that was like a really cantankerous time 51 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: for them, and you you don't really see that. You 52 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: see them being pretty kind to each other. Um, definitely 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: having their own personalities and egos flexing a little bit, 54 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: but in general they work together quite well and it's 55 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: really kind of neat to see. It's almost like sitting 56 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: in on band practice. But it's like, you know, legends. 57 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I guess my point is just there, they're not the 58 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Beatles they wanted to be. I mean aim high, you 59 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I applaud audacity and ambition, and 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I think they made some great songs. So congratulations to 61 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: the folks who spent some unexpected time in the Tan 62 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: Hill in Great Britain's highest altitude pub Also on a 63 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: positive note, you know, maybe made some friends for life. 64 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: That's what happened to us. We're stuck in an airport 65 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: for a day. Uh. And then you know, maybe count 66 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: your blessings that you were stuck with an Oasis cover 67 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: band and not the actual guys from Oasis, who can 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: be a little cranky, so they don't even talk to 69 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: each other. The brothers Gallagher is pretty cute little detail. 70 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Apparently the folks in the pub past the time by 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: doing like, you know, pop culture quizzes like pop trivia. 72 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I guess that they had on hand. They did some karaoke, 73 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: and I guess that the Oasis cover band also regaled them. 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: But um, a lot of the folks in this event, 75 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: uh started referring to the band as snow Asis. Yes, 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: which is great because their original name was no Asis. Anyhow, 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: this is what you get with strange news, folks, the 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: hard hitting facts, the reporting that apparently CNN won't won't cover, 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: but CNN probably did get to No Oasis. Uh. Today 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: we have some important stories, some disturbing stories. We're gonna 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about outer space. We're gonna talk 82 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: a little bit about good old spycraft cough cough, tradecraft. 83 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: We're going to also examine the world of cults. I 84 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: would also say it's a way for us to examine 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: how cults have changed in the world of ubiquitous social media. 86 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: And so for today's first story, I suggest we start 87 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: on what I'm gonna call another positive note. Congratulations to 88 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: the Pentagon, Congratulations to all our friends in the field 89 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: of ethology. The Pentagon is officially back into aliens in 90 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: a big way. That's our first story. Also, it turns 91 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: out Canada is ignoring aliens in a big way. That's 92 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: like the byline, that's the you know, the snarky paragraph 93 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: at the end. But we talked about this a little 94 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: bit off air, Matt and noll. Uh. We did a 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: series on those two disclosure reports that came out that 96 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: We're called a nothing burger by some because the d 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: classified report, which we did a whole episode on, is 98 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: is pretty short. It's mainly asking for more money, like 99 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: most government reports do, uh, and it did have some 100 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: revelatory stuff in there. It said that, you know, there 101 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: are a few sightings that appear to be things operated 102 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: by some sort of intelligence and appear to be technology 103 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: beyond the grasp of at least the U. S. Military 104 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Industrial complex. So when that report came out, it sort 105 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: of fizzled a little because the more substantive classified report 106 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: is still classified, so the public doesn't know what's in 107 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: there and probably won't know a lot of it for 108 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: decades to come. But the big question we all had 109 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: once you probably had at home, fellow conspiracy realist, was 110 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: simply this, what next? What's going to happen? You know 111 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: what I mean? Is is there going to be any 112 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: action from this from the world's mightiest military pretty much 113 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: saying we don't know what the is going on? Right. 114 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: We talked about the threats that poses, we talked about 115 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: the problems it creates, and we talked about whether or 116 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: not anything would happen, or whether the news would just 117 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: go to some like distracting story about celebrity there's something 118 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: like that, which it did. By the way. Yeah, I 119 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: gotta say, though a pretty clunky name they've given this thing. Yeah, 120 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: the Airboard Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group or al. Yeah, 121 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: the synchronization is what through me and also not a 122 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: particularly sexy acronym that you can actually speak as as 123 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: you just pointed out, then what is the synchronization aspect 124 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: the idea of like connecting with other governments and getting 125 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: people on the same page, or like, well, what is 126 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: this angle here? It's connecting other offices. Uh, and it's 127 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: it's sort of making a central Okay, we're we're doing it. 128 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: We have to go into acronym land. They're gonna be 129 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot of acronyms fire and off at you real quick. 130 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: So the Airboard Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group owns 131 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: that's like a sound like a CAFULU makes yes. So 132 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: this is this is like a repository. They're trying to 133 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: bring together all the information from these disparate parts of 134 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: the d D and different US government agencies. Because for 135 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: a long time they had two huge problems. One, a 136 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: lot of pilots and a lot of other professionals thought 137 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: they were going to lose any chance of promotion, maybe 138 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: even lose their jobs if they sounded like total wing nuts. 139 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: And second, even if they did report stuff, which was 140 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Uh, this whatever department they're in, 141 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: whatever branch of the military, may not have reported it 142 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: to anybody else. It may have just been filed away 143 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: and ignored Canadian style. We'll get to it. Lovely neighbors 144 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: to the north. We were going to point out some 145 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: stuff with Canada in a second, but uh yeah, they 146 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: appear to make a good faith effort. They're trying to 147 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: gather all these documents and all this information, and they're 148 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: focusing on something pretty interesting, something called Special Use Airspace 149 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: or SUWA. We're going overboard with the acronyms. I think 150 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get them out of the way. 151 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: So there's ALMS, which sounds like, you know, um, a 152 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: Scandinavian person who's drank too much, falling in slow motion, right, 153 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: you can hear that. And then there's another thing that 154 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: comes into play. Let's just run through the acronyms here. 155 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: ALMS is going to also be involved with something called 156 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: al ME, which is Airborne Object Identification and Management Executive Council. 157 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: They're just killing it with the names. We've made no 158 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: secret in the past on this show that and I 159 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: feel like it's okay to say it because we made 160 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: the show. But uh, stuff they don't want you to 161 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: know is a ridiculously long name for a podcast, and 162 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: even we have nothing on these guys. They're looking for 163 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: actual UFOs and they're gonna lose so much time just 164 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: typing out their names for things. Anyway, Anyway, so this 165 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: is good, right, Um, did you guys think this would 166 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: happen or that this would happen publicly? I think we 167 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: all sort of assumed it would go on underground. I mean, 168 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of like a successor, I guess, 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: to something that was already happening a task of course, 170 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: but this just sort of elevates it and gives it 171 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: a little more weight. Perhaps the biggest question was would 172 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: they get more money? Would their internal Kickstarter campaign for 173 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the budget of the Pentagon funded? And it appears to 174 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: have worked, so okay, yeah, yeah, that's that's the question. 175 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: And it's it's a tricky question to answer if you 176 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: are someone who holds the purse strings of government, because 177 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: you will have to defend your decision, and it's a 178 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: high risk decision because what if what if there's some 179 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: political cause of the day in your district and someone says, well, 180 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, Senator Jackson could have put millions of dollars 181 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: into I don't know, um, stopping puppies from being kicked, 182 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: which is a huge problem in our town. But no, instead, 183 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: she said it on a spent it on a wild 184 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: goose chase for aliens and intergalactic snipe hunt. You know. 185 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of stuff that can come back 186 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: to bite you. But this is also a necessary thing 187 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: to do because special use airspace is mission critical to 188 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: the US. You guys have heard the phrase special use airspace. 189 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: I feel like just hearing the phrase, we can all 190 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: kind of guess what it means, right. It's the it's 191 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: the places where you can't just fly right, And that's 192 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: everything in the places that we would easily recognize within Washington, 193 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: d C. And Virginia and a couple other places in 194 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: that in the kind of northeast of the United States, 195 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: as well as places out in the desert, places with 196 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: special special strategic importance to you know, in the energy field, 197 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: and all kinds of other research right that you can 198 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: just imagine all the places. It's funny. The special use 199 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: air space is not a term I've heard before, but 200 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: it encompasses a lot of terms that you probably have 201 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: heard before, like restricted airspace, you know, or national security 202 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: areas or military operation areas and things like that. There's 203 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: quite a few other ones that I don't fully like, 204 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: controlled firing area, which is maybe for like war games 205 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: or something, or artillery testing ranges stuff like that. I mean, yeah, 206 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: you're you're spot on, because they this is a group 207 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: term that I guess the diplomatic way to put it is, 208 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: this is a group term describing any airspace that involves 209 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: possible activities that could be hazardous to an aircraft. Like, hey, 210 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: we shoot missiles here for practice, so you have to 211 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: fly around it, or you have to get or you 212 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: have to convince this to stop shooting off all these missiles. 213 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: One of those is an easier yes than the other, 214 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: I imagine, Or you're just not allowed to go to 215 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: their Yes, bad air bad airplane, don't go to there. 216 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: So that is what is happening. That's exactly what's happening. 217 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Unidentified things, whether they be objects or just the more 218 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: um Weasley word phenomena, unidentified things that can absolutely smoke 219 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: man made aircraft are showing up in these areas and 220 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: these military operation areas and prohibited airspace. No one knows 221 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: what's going on, or if someone does, they are certainly 222 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: not admitting it. This is a big deal because while 223 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: the more skeptical folks in the crowd may say with 224 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: some validity, this could be a misplaced priority, right, we 225 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: have real provable problems that need to be tackled. While 226 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: that is somewhat valid, it is not entirely on base. 227 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: As we said in our earlier episode, if you have 228 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: protected airspace and you can't protect that airspace, then that 229 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: means you need to question every assumption you have made 230 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: about your defense capabilities and probably your forced projection as well, 231 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: which is your your ability to go offensive. So this 232 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: is this is inspiring, but it's also scary. If you 233 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: live in the US, you should be a little freaked out. Yeah. 234 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: I came up with a new acronym for it. I 235 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: think it's the Nuclear Arms Pathway Protection Program or NAP. 236 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: Good with that one could also be strategic arms. Then 237 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: it would just be SAP. So if you would like 238 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: to play the acronym game with us, you can read 239 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: the official d D statement on alms U it is 240 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: I would say, just looking at it, it's about twenty 241 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: percent acronyms. Yeah. Yeah, And and the state. The closest 242 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 1: they get to saying anything about UFOs is just mentioning 243 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: that there was a report submitted to Congress in June, 244 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: and then they use the phrase U A P A 245 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: couple of times because they don't want to get caught 246 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: dead saying aliens or extra terrestrials, And in their defense, 247 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: that's because no one has proven that aliens or extra 248 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: terrestrials exist. If you want to hear more about that, 249 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: do check out our episode on that story. You can 250 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: also read that full declassified report online. It will take 251 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: you about ten minutes. It really isn't long, and it 252 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: isn't super technical either, because there's a lot of stuff 253 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: they can't mention. But we will close with this Canada 254 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: thing is teasing earlier. So whether or not you are 255 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: a fan of the way the US government tackles things, um, 256 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: whether or not you're a fan of the way Uncle 257 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Sam has handled UFO investigations in the past, we can 258 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: say good on them for at least making public signals right. 259 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: Those signals may not necessarily be for you US residents. 260 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: They may be for whatever entity they think might be 261 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: behind these U A P. If there is something behind them, 262 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: if they're part of the same thing, you know what 263 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, It's still completely possible. It could just be 264 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: an agglomeration of errors. That's increasingly doubtful, though especially the 265 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Pentagon believes something is going on. Make no mistake, but 266 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: good on them for being public. UH Canada has not 267 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: done the same thing. Over a motherboard of vice. They 268 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: obtained some documents from the Royal can Adian Air Force 269 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: and it turns out that the Royal Canadian Air Force 270 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: has been receiving some pretty significant reports of UFOs or 271 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: u a P and they just haven't done anything. Okay, 272 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of brushing out of the rug situation and 273 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: just sort of like nothing to see here, folks situation. 274 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: So one example comes from the wee hours of September 275 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: when UH Royal Canadian Air Force squadron in Ontario got 276 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: a call from some air traffic controllers in Vancouver and 277 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: they said, look, something crazy happened. There was this pilot 278 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: for Air Canada Express who saw this this very weird 279 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: series of lights in the sky. We don't know what 280 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: it is. We wanted to pin get just in case, 281 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: which is what you're supposed to do. So the r 282 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: c a F said, all right, let's look at the radar. 283 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: They looked at the radar, they didn't see anything that 284 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: could explain what this pilot had seen. And then they 285 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: started sending out reports, They contacted the Transportation Department, and 286 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: then they contacted this uh kind of secretive part of 287 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: the Canadian Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Division, and 288 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: then those folks just didn't do anything. So we also 289 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have known about this advice had not gone through 290 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: Canada's Access to Information Act, which is sort of like 291 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: our it's like the US FOYA but for Canada Freedom 292 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: of Information Act. And what they what they saw, according 293 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: to an aviation consultant and retired fighter pilot named John 294 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: Williams or Jock to his friends, what they saw is 295 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: that the authorities were aware of this kind of stuff 296 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: and they also weren't taking a lot of action. Now 297 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: this isn't to say that they weren't doing their jobs 298 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: or they were being incompetent. They filed reports, it's just 299 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: there wasn't an alums or something like that for them 300 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: to follow up with. So maybe, just maybe Canada will 301 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: be taking a page from the U. S IS book, 302 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: which I normally wouldn't advise, and uh, digging a little deeper. 303 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: So that's where we're gonna leave it for now. We'll 304 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: follow up. Let us know what strange things you have 305 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: seen in the sky one three three st d w 306 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: y t k or conspiracy at i heeart radio dot com. 307 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna pause for a close encounter of the ad kind, 308 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: he I wrote. I wrote that down earlier. It was good. 309 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: That was worthy of us, Like I'm gonna suffer in 310 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: shame for the act break and we're back from this 311 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: encounter we we've had with the ad kind. It was 312 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: not that bad. It was okay. I think we learned 313 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: something about ourselves in the universe and Jason's DELI indeed, 314 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. They make a pretty good muffle. Actually 315 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: it's somewhat authentic Jason, which also does online counsel you. No, 316 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, Matt, you're the one that's anti 317 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: Muffalletta right, you don't like the olive. I'm sorry to 318 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: keep bringing it up. I just it was not picking 319 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: on you, Matt, teach their own. Indeed, I'll tell you 320 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: he's picking on me. I mentioned this to you guys 321 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: before we uh sure to recording today. I sent you 322 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: a screenshot. I inexplicably have like fifteen calendar events on 323 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: my calendar for today, all of which are reminding me 324 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: and encouraging me. To renew McAfee anti virus and is 325 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: this the dead hand? Is this the thing? It seems 326 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: like a real missed opportunity. But like I have one 327 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: for two PM saying important renew McAfee, and then one 328 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: for three pm this is your McAfee is expired today, 329 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: then one for four pm activate McAfee, and then five 330 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: pm don't forget to renew McAfee, and then renew McAfee 331 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: license now, and now your McAfee license expired today. It 332 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: goes on. I am really kind of eaked out. I 333 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: have no idea how that's ended up in my calendar. 334 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: It seems super fishy, don't you guys think? Yeah, it 335 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: could have been an older email, maybe a non work 336 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: related email that just like got pulled back up in 337 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: their banks. Or I said this on the group chat 338 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: to man, if you want to get to the bottom 339 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: of it, you could just contact McAfee and say what 340 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? I don't know if I want to. 341 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to open that can of worms. Uh. 342 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: It was definitely bizarre. Uh, not quite as bizarre and 343 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: sad as the story that I'm going to talk about today. 344 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: We've talked about this second um Yeah, it was the 345 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: best I could do. Let's talk about this to some degree. Uh, 346 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: this group of frankly fringe Q and on um conspirators. Uh. 347 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: And that's saying a lot when the whole Q and 348 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: on conspiracy theory and and kind of you know, let's 349 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: call it what it is, culled, Uh, cyber cults, I 350 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: guess um is about as fringe as you can get, 351 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, in the world of conspiracy theories. It's sort 352 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: of this like weird mash up of every conspiracy theory 353 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: we know about the lolo wackist ones anyway, um, with 354 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: some Illuminati stuff thrown in there, some you know sexual 355 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: predation uh purportedly you know, being carried out by you know, 356 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: high level officials and members of political aristocracies and all 357 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: of that good stuff. Uh, some pizza gate sprinkled on 358 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: the top for good measure. UM. And it's one of 359 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: these decentralized kind of conspiracy theories that's so convoluted it 360 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: just keeps getting added to and attitude and attitude um. 361 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: One of my favorite YouTube channels, Internet Today referred to 362 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: it as a Katamari of conspiracy theory. If you know 363 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: the game, it's like this little dude that's rolling up 364 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: all the stuff until the ball gets bigger and bigger 365 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: and bigger, and then it starts rolling up subsequently bigger 366 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: and bigger stuff. That's I think a really great way 367 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: of looking at what Q and ON is. UM. What 368 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: we obviously we've talked about qum on in general. If 369 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: you haven't checked out Jake Hanrahan's incredible podcast series Q Clearance, 370 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: get you to a podcast app right now and check 371 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: it out. Um. But there's an interesting new development. There's 372 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: this fringe group that has gathered in downtown Dallas, Texas 373 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: and Deely Plaza specifically, which is where of course John F. 374 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Kennedy was assassinated. Um. They're also hoping to see a 375 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: an appearance from John F. Kennedy's son, John F. Kennedy Jr. 376 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: Who died in the plane crash in the late nineties. Uh. 377 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: This is all kind of being masterminded. Are led by 378 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: this dude UM named Michael Brian Prattsman, who is known 379 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: by the Internet moniker and Negative forty eight. A little 380 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: bit background on him. First of all, Um, he is 381 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: known pretty widely to be virulently anti semitic. UM. He 382 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: uses a lot of dog whistle type language um specifically 383 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: referring to people of the Jewish faith as Khazars or 384 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: it's some sort of like I think, I think it's 385 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: like a catch all kind of term for just referring 386 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: to this group um in a way that's disparaging without 387 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: actually you know, using anti Semitic slurs. But everyone knows 388 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: to tell you what it is. It's been used for 389 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: a long long time for folks purporting that the you know, 390 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: people of the Jewish faith control the media and banks 391 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: and all of that kind of you know, out there stuff, 392 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: which is patently offensive, uh, and you know, obviously hinges 393 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: on a lot of tired and offensive stereotypes about it's 394 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: it's worse though, it's the like you're you're nailing it, 395 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: but it's deeper than that. It's like deeper than wrap level, 396 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: because the idea, well, it's about extermination, right, I mean essentially, well, 397 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: the idea in anti Semitic fringe theories like the kind 398 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: of the blood libel stuff dating back like Protocols of 399 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Elders of Zion, which was a you know, one of 400 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: the most popular hoaxes of its time in the world 401 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: of anti Semitism. Still propagated and and shared as though 402 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: it is factual. Today it is very much not so. 403 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: The idea is that anti Semites will tell you that 404 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: people who claimed to be Jewish today or identify as 405 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: Jewish are, for the most part, not that they were 406 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: actually right right aristocracy right, that they were actually cause ours, 407 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: and that they have co opted this identity as a 408 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: way to further their incredibly over complicated plan uh to 409 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: take over the world. And this this uh, this goes 410 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: back to like the eighth or ninth century, and it's like, 411 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: it's so far back. It's about the idea of causeurs 412 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: reportedly converting to Judaism, and this this could be a 413 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: whole episode of its own. We don't really, we don't 414 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: really do hate speech, but you're you're right, and I'm 415 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: glad you highlighted that, because whenever you're reading something that 416 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: sounds conspiratorial, that you can learn a couple of quick 417 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: flags too that can help you question the I guess 418 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: the sincerity for the credibility of some of the other claims. 419 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: We used to have a joke about it off air, 420 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: words like how far you have to read the whole thing? 421 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: Because you never know if that paragraph on page thirty 422 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: five might just casually say, and since you know the 423 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: Welsh control all the horses in the world and they 424 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: all right, whatever, Well, this guy, Um, absolutely is that 425 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: thing that you're talking about, Ben Um, no question about. 426 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: He obviously has tried to veil it a little bit, 427 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: but not a whole lot. Apparently he has um given 428 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: a lot of attention to a ten part documentary series 429 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: called Europa The Last Battle, which is considered incredibly anti 430 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Semitic and makes claims like the Jewish people created communism 431 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: and started both world wars on purpose as part of 432 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: that great grand scheme plot that you're talking about, to 433 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: help them found Israel. Um by provoking the innocent Nazis 434 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote reading this from a description in a great 435 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: Vice article that gives a rundown on this guy's background, 436 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: and it is chilling. Um. He again, he has posted 437 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: links to this documentary was available. He also promoted UM 438 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: a film called Adolf Hitler The Greatest Story Never Told. Uh. 439 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: That's a thing apparently, UM. And And to your point 440 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: about the the khazar um uh kind of ideology, he 441 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: literally was heard or in a recorded speech that he 442 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: made that I think made the rounds. I don't even 443 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: know something that he meant to get out, but it did. Um. 444 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: He said there are no quote. This is quote and 445 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: this is pretty offensive. Um, but I'm gonna read it 446 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: just so understand and give a glimpse into this guy's mind. Quote. 447 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: There are no Jews period, anywhere period. There is no 448 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: Jewish race, and the Jewish leadership are basically the British Empire, 449 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: the Roman Empire. It's just the criminals. So this is 450 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: the guy UM that has claimed that he uh knows that, Um, 451 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy Jr. Are going 452 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: to return and um, you know usher in the second 453 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: coming of President Donald Trump. UM, which obviously Q no 454 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: on was a big part of the whole stop the 455 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: Steel and and you know the idea that Trump was 456 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: robbed of his victory and that he's actually staging some 457 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: grand coup. It's going to you know, happen in in 458 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: in some elaborate fashion like this. Um. Now when you 459 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: start getting into like dead you know, former presidents and celebrities. 460 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: They he's even mentioned like Michael Jackson might make an appearance. Uh, 461 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Princess Diana, I think maybe he was mentioned. There's a 462 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: couple of other ones. Um. So he's gathered this fringe 463 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: group of Q and on conspiracy theorists. Uh. And they've 464 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: been hanging out there. They've just been hanging out there 465 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: and in uh in Deely Plaza in Dallas. They've got hotels, 466 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: people have left their families. They're just posted up um 467 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: and they're waiting for this prophecy to come true that 468 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: he has uh you know, foretold or whatever. Her And 469 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: the thing that makes him really interesting is he is 470 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: probably one of the more I don't know, I guess 471 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: I think of Q and on, and I know there 472 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: are some leaders like what's his name? Who's that guy? 473 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Flynn has become kind of a big, big face of 474 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Q and on. But he also recently was caught making 475 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: some disparaging remarks about how he knows that all the 476 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: followers or he believes that a lot of the follows 477 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: are idiots. And and it's the kind of thing that 478 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: you would think would shut people down and make them 479 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: be like, hey, screw this guy, he's talking trash about us. 480 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: But instead, like happens in many well laid cult situations, 481 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: is any sign of you know, negative or any like, 482 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, proof in the opposite direction of what these 483 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: folks want to believe. They just use as an opportunity 484 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: to double down and say, oh, actually Flynn is just 485 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: playing the long game, you know, things like that, or 486 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: oh the probacy didn't come true on this day. That 487 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: means bigger things are gonna happen next time. You know. 488 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: It's it's it's tailor as old as time. Um. But 489 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 1: this dude, uh negative Fortier, just call him by his name, 490 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: Michael Prattsman, really has started to take on and almost, 491 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, Jim Jones is kind of uh stature. 492 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he you know, is absolutely commanding the hearts 493 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: and minds of this small, you know, admittedly small, but 494 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: loyal group of followers. There's an article actually from the 495 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: Dallas paper, the Dallas Morning News, UM that interviews a 496 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, experts on conspiracy theories and you know, um indoctrination, 497 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: and this guy named Mike Rothschild who wrote a book 498 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: called The Storm Is upon Us, and he specifically calls 499 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: out how this guy is undeniably a cult leader. He says, 500 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: in this article by Michael Williams, there is absolutely behavior 501 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: control and thought control um going on. He's telling people 502 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: what to do. He's having people stand in straight lines 503 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: to have conversations. He's telling people when to go outside, 504 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: when to look up, when to look down. It is 505 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: unquestionably the behavior of a cult leader. Um. And this 506 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: is you know again, this Q and On thing has 507 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: always felt kind of decentralized to me. You know, there 508 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: were some figures that emerged, like the q and On 509 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: shaman or whatever, and some flynn who has been feuding 510 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: with another q and On kind of luminary Lynn Wood, 511 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: who was one of Trump's um lawyers I believe, and 512 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: has now become kind of like a q and On booster. 513 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: I guess you could call her. Um. But this guy 514 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: Pratsman really is starting to feel more like he's taking 515 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: in a religious direction, you know, like like like treating 516 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: people like followers, you know, like almost like subjects. It's 517 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: very interesting. Um. And they're still hanging out um at 518 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: in Dallas. They've got a hotel rooms. There's like a 519 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: video that emerged of the followers like covering this guy 520 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: and like rolls and rolls and rolls of toilet paper 521 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: while singing him Happy Birthday. Um, which is yeah, they 522 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: they rolled him, dude, They rolled this guy but he's like, 523 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, laughing, and it feels like a ceremonial kind 524 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: and see it seems silly, but it also super odds 525 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: respect for other cultures practices, you know, fair enough, fair 526 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: enough ben as do I, um, but undeniably a little strange. 527 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: And here's where it gets stranger. And then I want 528 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: to throw it to you guys, and so you think, um, 529 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: I really feel like, you know, this guy, he doesn't. 530 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: A lot of quan On groups do promote violence and 531 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: and uprising against the government. He's not doing that. Uh. 532 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: He is treating it much more like the stoic, you know, 533 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: kind of self contained movement that is awaiting the second 534 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: coming of some deity. Almost like that's what it feels like, 535 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: you know. But but he he has no kind of 536 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: confrontational language, and his rhetoric about you know, rising up 537 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: like he sounds like the kind of guy that wouldn't 538 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: necessarily be pro insurgency or uprising. But uh, here's the 539 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: part where it gets really really spooky. Um. He has 540 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: claimed that quote, ultimately we have to experience that physical death, 541 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: let go come out on the other side. It's almost 542 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: like and then he also posted, uh, a some coordinates 543 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: or like a Google Map location a screenshot of an apisode. 544 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: It was as a screenshot of like a Google Map 545 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: situation that showed the destination of Waco, Texas, which if 546 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: anyone remembers, most of us do of a certain age, 547 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: and if not, there was like a Netflix series on 548 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: it pretty recently, if you're a true crime the Siege 549 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: of Mount Carmel, which was where the branch Davidian religious 550 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: sect um kind of you know, armed to the teeth 551 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: UH went to battle with the you know, the fbi 552 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: UM and resulted in seventy six people being killed, including 553 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty children. Obviously there was a lot of fault on 554 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: the government's part in that UH debacle as well. But 555 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: why is this guy posting things like that? UM? And 556 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: what is with this whole idea of you know, we 557 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: must experience the death of the body to truly understand. 558 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: It starts to feel like this is the kind of 559 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: thing that could be heading in a really scary direction. 560 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: Well I'm not sure about that. I just know I've 561 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: seen this before using something called jim matria. I think 562 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: it's how you say it, Ben. We talked about this 563 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: during numerology explorations years ago, where you just assign each 564 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: letter of in this case the English alphabet, a numerical number, 565 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: so A would be one, B would be to go 566 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: down the line I think twenty to get to twenty six, 567 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: which will be easy. Maybe that's wrong, whatever. Um. And 568 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: then you take a phrase, let's say, stuff they don't 569 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: want you to know. You put it in a geometria, 570 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: calculator of swords, or you just do the math yourself 571 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: and you come out with a number. In this case 572 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: it would be one D and twelve, which is a 573 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: number on the back of Protsman's negative forty shirt or 574 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: somebody in that uh Dallas Morning News article. So I 575 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: don't know the last dances one twelve. So with stuff 576 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know, guys, coincidence. The whole 577 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: point is to say that this kind of thing I 578 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: don't see personally. I don't believe there's anything to this 579 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of thing of creating somehow meeting out of you know, 580 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: letters in that way, although I know there are many 581 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: people who do believe this stuff, and we'll see it 582 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: as a perhaps sign that there's deeper meaning in some 583 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: regular old phrase or even you know, a mixture of 584 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: specific phrases that add up to some other specific number. Yeah, 585 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: I appreciate that gi Matria shout out at neat point 586 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: of irony there. As far as consistency goes, uh Matria 587 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: is often considered a Jewish form of numerology. So great 588 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 1: job guys with the consistency. But I want to add 589 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to soapbox, but I do want to 590 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: point out that you made the earlier comparison to Atamari, 591 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: which I've made as well, and I think it holds up. 592 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: But I would say structurally, a lot of cults or 593 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: cultic belief systems that have a built in expiration date 594 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: or milestones or timelines. They're like Matroshka dolls, where the 595 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: doll is the structure of a conspiracy, and when it 596 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: when the conspiracy doesn't like when it expands past that 597 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: timeline it's eighteen thirty nine June and the world didn't end, 598 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: then you just build another larger doll of conspiratorial structure 599 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: in which you house that other thing. And what's happening 600 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: now is that people are starting to either get hip 601 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: to the grift, and grift it is very much so, 602 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: or they're starting to just get tired of it. As 603 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, quite recently, former q and On 604 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: follower I think still maybe current Q and On follower 605 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: wrote an open letter to Donald Trump over the various 606 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: failed predictions, dropping that in the chat. I don't know 607 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: if we want to talk too much about it because 608 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: it'll I think it could show up in a later episode. 609 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: But this is where you can see excerpts of this. 610 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Just go to Newsweek. Um, we're not going to read 611 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: them out loud here, but just go to Newsweek and 612 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: check them out. You'll see that people are it's starting 613 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: to lose steam as a mass appeal thing, which means 614 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: that the people who are left are going to be 615 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: increasingly radicalized and they're going to encounter an exacerbated form 616 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: of group polarization. And that, I posit is when you 617 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: get to the very dangerous points. A lot of the 618 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: other folks are just, you know, like any other cult 619 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: leader there, grifters who have a undeservedly large sense of 620 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: ego such that they begin to believe their own con 621 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: kind of the way. The example always uses Merlin in 622 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: a Connecticut Yankee and King Arthur's Court. Remember that, right, guys, 623 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: where where this unnamed Yankees shows up to key guarsas 624 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: court and he's like, first he thinks, oh whoa magic 625 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: is real? And he thinks, oh no, wait, Merlin is 626 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: a con artist, and then things, oh no, Merlin's being crazy. 627 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of people are going 628 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: to go through. I think so too. But unfortunately, in 629 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: the meantime, families are absolutely being torn apart. Uh. There's 630 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: another really great Vice article about this specific you know 631 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: little splinter group of of Q and on Um talking 632 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: to family members of folks who have gone on this 633 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, pilgrimage to Dallas Um talking about how they're 634 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: worried they're never gonna come back. Maybe in a larger sense, 635 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: if there is concern about this, uh, you know, suicide 636 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: cult type situation. Again, I'm I don't want to overplay 637 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: that hand in any way. I mean, it's certainly not 638 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: anything that's proven, but we do know, you know from 639 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: experts that when the narrative in these types of cult 640 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: situation starts to shift to achieving you know, utopia or 641 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: like Valhalla or something like through you know, death of 642 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: the body, uh, and knowing just how closely these folks 643 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: follow this guy, I mean, it's certainly something to take 644 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: very seriously. Agree, So uh with that, Let's let's let's 645 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: keep an Eyeland story. Obviously it's ongoing because they're they're 646 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: not going anywhere, but nothing has happened. So we'll see 647 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: if anything does happen, and hopefully it's not something horrible 648 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: involving the actual people. Um and and hopefully they come 649 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: come to their senses and go back home to their families. 650 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: Um and if you you know, and again we always 651 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: say this, if you know anybody that's struggling with this 652 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: type of noctrination, there's certainly are resources for that. Yeah, 653 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 1: there are places like Dare to Doubt dot org, which 654 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: is uh more more focused on the broader picture. It's 655 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: not q and on specific it's it's about how to 656 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: help friends and loved ones detach from what they call 657 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: harmful belief systems. Yes, absolutely check that out if you 658 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: know anybody that's struggling with this um or, if you're 659 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: trying to look into some resources to understand the problem 660 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: better yourself. So let's take a quick break to hear 661 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: worth more responsible, be back with one more strange news. 662 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: All right, we're back. We're going to quietly transition over 663 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: to brain injuries or um A nominalous health incidents as 664 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: the government has been calling them recently. Uh, the Havannah syndrome. 665 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: We're back. We're gonna talk about this one more time 666 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: because there was a listener mail last week from Jim 667 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: who told us some stories about the trade, tradecraft and 668 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: spying cough cough cough cof um. We we mentioned Vienna, 669 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: Austria and how it was at one time the place 670 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: to be a spy if you were engaged in Cold 671 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: War activities on either side or for any you know, 672 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: player in the middle there, and how it is still 673 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: today a place where spies go and hang out and 674 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: try and recruit people in Vienna to spy on somebody else. 675 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: And it's just a game of tag tag your being traced. 676 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: That's what we'll call it. Tag your traced. It's a 677 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: fun game that we're gonna start playing. So we brought 678 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: that up last week. Then there was news that came 679 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: out over the holiday weekend. It was Thanksgiving here last 680 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: week for US, and the CIA and the FBI are 681 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: both getting heavily involved in Havannah talk, Havannah syndrome talk specifically. 682 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: So the first thing we're gonna read. It comes from 683 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. It is titled CIA director warns the 684 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: Russian spies of consequences if they're behind Havannah syndrome incidents. 685 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: Really says it on the face there in the headline 686 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: of what this is about. CIA Director William J. Burns, 687 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: according to the Washington Post, delivered a confidential warning to 688 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: Russia's top intelligence services that they will in fact get 689 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: in trouble if they are the ones who are behind 690 00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: these attacks incidents anomalous health says occurring to people in 691 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: the State Department, both diplomats and spies, and sometimes the same. Well, 692 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: the reason why this is important is because this thing 693 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: has been happening since two thousand sixteen. That's when it 694 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: was the Havanna syndrome incidents were first reported. There. Yes, publicly, 695 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: they're acknowledged at least within our bill, you know, within 696 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: the news, so that the public could hear about them. 697 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: And that was diplomats at an embassy in Havana or 698 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 1: the embassy in Havana experiencing weird stuff migraines, severe severe headaches, 699 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: feelings of dizziness, not being able to stand vertigo, feeling 700 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: like they're for being forgetful all the time, just a 701 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: weird symptoms of brain injuries that it turns out after Now, 702 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,959 Speaker 1: my gosh, guys, it's been five years of studies done 703 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: on victims of this Havannah syndrome or these anomalous health incidents, 704 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: and in many cases it has been shown that there 705 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: are actual brain injuries to these diplomats and spies, so 706 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: physical things that you can measure scientifically that show something 707 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 1: is going wrong in their brains. So something is definitely happening. 708 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: There's some kind of attack. It's not psycho somatic. I 709 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: would pose it as the FBI originally positive this was 710 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: some kind of mass hysteria that was going on. The 711 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: CIA believed that perhaps there was something going on that 712 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: wasn't an actual attack, at least in the beginning, and 713 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: now it has been acknowledged by both the CIA and 714 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: the FBI that something is definitely happening and we need 715 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it. I think we 716 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: need to do a whole episode on this guy's as 717 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: we I believe mentioned not long ago. Ben, Yeah, yeah, 718 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 1: I actually already snuck that in our secret plans because 719 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: I was keeping an eye on this as well. We 720 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: when we originally did the story. We had a lot 721 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: of questions. It's one of those episodes I want to 722 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: go back to UH and see how close we got 723 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: to some of our guesses. But I've got that in 724 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: there for a a re examination of Havana syndrome, because 725 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: while there is no official formal consensus in the U. S. 726 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: Intelligence community as we record this, there are a ton 727 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: of people accusing the same group of ultimately being responsible. 728 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it just yet because this 729 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: is your story map, but I've been keeping an eye 730 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: on this UH for for a while, Loki. One of 731 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: the big big things that happened that gave lie to 732 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: the original intelligence ideas of mass hysteria was a University 733 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania study that was published in jama in twenty 734 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: nineteen looked at the brains of forty diplomats who claim 735 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: they have been affected, and that's where they first proved 736 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: that something happened. Something happened that called as physical trauma 737 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: to their brains, so they weren't making it up. And 738 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: people are still divided on how much you can learn 739 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: from that because it was a sample size of just 740 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: forty people, you know who would have been affected. But 741 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: the investigations are ongoing, and frequently I don't know how 742 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: much we can trust these accusations. But more and more 743 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: frequently the people who are saying it's not psycho somatic 744 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: or have some kind of accusation are isolating one country 745 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: above all others. I don't know if we have to 746 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: say the quiet part out loud, Oh, maybe people can 747 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: play at home. Who do you think it is? Do 748 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: you think it's Barbuda Russia? Because the CIA director literally 749 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: just said, hey, Russia, stop, I know it's definitely Russia. 750 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: It's definitely Russia. And Russia's doing the old, Russia's doing 751 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: the old. It's almost like they're Alfred E. Newman vibe, 752 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: where they're like, what me ALFREDY Newman for MAM magazines 753 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: is what me worry? So just a picture Vitor Vladmir 754 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: Putin is that this? Yeah, this is this investigation is 755 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: going to continue, and this makes I think also an 756 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: interesting bookend when we're talking about suppressed or speculative or 757 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: classify technology. Because we started Today's Strange New well, we 758 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: started Today's Strange News congratulating an Oasis cover bands, but 759 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: our first story was about the possibility of massively advanced 760 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: hidden technology and what what governments can do about it? 761 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: And now you know our ending stories is quite similar, 762 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: isn't it, because we're looking at I mean, I talked 763 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: to some physicists about this, about what it could be 764 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 1: quite possibly, and they had really interesting notes. But whatever 765 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: it is is very much real, you know what I mean. 766 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: It's this is not the part of the horror movie 767 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 1: where it is just the wind houses. Well, according to 768 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: people actually looking into it, scientists as as well as 769 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: people in the tradecraft and investigators, they're saying it is 770 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: a pulsed energy weapon of some sort a directed post 771 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: energy weapon. So like to hear that on NBC News, 772 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: which you can watch right now, numerous videos. If you 773 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: type in Havana syndrome, you can find experts on in 774 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: public saying it's a direct directed post energy weapon. And 775 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: then they attempt to explain what that means and they 776 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: fail miserably, and it's not their fault. It's just hard 777 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: to describe. But it's basically micro microwave weapon that is 778 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: being pulsed at a brain, so it's superheats your cells 779 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: and then it cool they cool off really quickly. Then 780 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: it superheats them again and they cool and then it's 781 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: it's like this thing that causes damage because it's all 782 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: occurring inside your skull. So it's literally your neurons that 783 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 1: are being cooked rapidly, just for a second, a microsecond, 784 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 1: a moment. Then they're not cooked anymore than they're hooked, 785 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: and it just causes these pulses inside your brain. They 786 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: call them waves, but again it's very hard to describe. 787 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: But in the end, it causes trauma within your brain, 788 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: and somebody is doing it. The FBI literally just said 789 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: that dealing with Havanna syndrome is quote a top priority. 790 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: You can read a Reuter's article all about that. You 791 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: can head on over to the Guardian read the same 792 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 1: thing that the FBI is warning. It's its agents of 793 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: this thing. And if you start to feel anything like 794 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: this while you're on a case, on on duty, operating anywhere, 795 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: be aware and alert us, please as soon as you 796 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: possibly can. I have two questions first. But my first 797 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: question is do we have any public speculation on the motivation, 798 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: public speculation by officials on the motivations? Like the US 799 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: has tons and tons of embassies, Why these specific places, 800 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: why the specific people. I think that's a question I 801 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: haven't heard somebody officially address yet. There's a lot of 802 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: noise on, you know, in the in the public sphere. 803 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: But then, um, while you're answering that question, because I 804 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 1: know I'm putting you on the spot, I'm putting you 805 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: in the microwave beam spotlight here. Uh, do you think 806 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: that intelligence agencies in the US know more about this 807 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: than they're letting on? And have you ever heard of 808 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: the Moscow signal? I know I mentioned it off air, 809 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: just didn't mention Moscow signal? But no. I what I 810 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: can say is it's been detected I think six or 811 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: seven places that were diplomats and or spies or have 812 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: been operating, including in India and in Vienna, in Havana. 813 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: I know there are others Berlin. I want to say 814 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: there's there's been several places where it's been reported, but 815 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yep, China. I haven't seen anything where 816 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: somebody is saying this is why they're going after the 817 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: spies of diplomat Other than why not if you're you know, 818 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: if you can attack US by and not get caught, 819 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: why would you not do it? In a measure of counterintelligence? 820 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: The only thing is they're actually physically attacking. It's not 821 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: like they're jamming signals, right, which is like part of 822 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: the trade. I'm going to prevent you from sending your 823 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: information out. In this case, it's like causing physical harm 824 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: to others who are playing the great game along with you. 825 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: She feels very strange. And here's why. I so I'll 826 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll say it. Here's why I think Uncle 827 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: Sam knows more about what's going down with Vana syndrome 828 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: than they may be publicly signaling. The Moscow Signal was 829 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: a somewhat similar attempt. From nineteen fifty three to nineteen 830 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: seventy six there was a Moscow run operation using microwave 831 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: transmissions between two point five and four giga hurts, too 832 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,479 Speaker 1: apparently have some kind of espionage attempt on the US 833 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: embassy in Moscow. There are apparently no ill effects on 834 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: the health of the staff of the embassy, but that's 835 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: the official conclusion and people are still fighting that. And 836 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: that was from seventy six. Again, a lot of time 837 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: has passed, so if there's any sand to that, then 838 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: I think this means the Russian forces would have had 839 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of time to refine their techniques. I know 840 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: that's a lot of this, but I think it's it's 841 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,959 Speaker 1: a good place to start digging, you know what I mean. Also, 842 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,919 Speaker 1: the Moscow signal, perfect name for a post rock band. 843 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's not a thing, it must be. We're 844 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: talking about that earlier off air. I agree. Uh well, 845 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 1: So hey, if you're out there and you want to 846 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: learn more, we've already given you some articles you can 847 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: check out. Check out Seized by some Invisible Hand, what 848 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: it feels like to have have in a syndrome. You 849 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 1: can find that on NBC News. If you go to YouTube, 850 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,240 Speaker 1: you can check out early vic ms of Havana syndrome 851 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: speak out about ongoing health struggles. That's again NBC News, 852 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: sorry for doing the same thing there. CBS News has 853 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: one called former CIA Officers Shares Struggle with Havana Syndrome, 854 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: in which you will hear from Dr David Relman, who's 855 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 1: the chairman of the National Academies of Sciences Committee, who 856 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: was looking at this. He's the one who's talking about 857 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: directed energy weapons and how your your brain gets microwaved. 858 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: So we're gonna continue going down this rabbit hole. We're 859 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna come back to you with the best info we 860 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: can find, and uh look forward to covering this more 861 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 1: in the future. It's a scary thing. It's real. It's 862 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: out there. Stay safe if you're in the State Department 863 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form right now, right on? Yeah, 864 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: well said, and and keep in mind, you know, this 865 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of stuff can affect people who are just in 866 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: the building. You know what I mean. It's not sci 867 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: fi enough to target people based on their job. It's 868 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: targeting people based on their look, Patian, So it was 869 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: happening to people in their homes where they worked exactly. Yeah, 870 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: So there is more to the story, and there definitely is, 871 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: I would say in all three stories we explored today, 872 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: there's definitely stuff they don't want you to know in 873 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 1: each of them. You and on will continue to radicalize, 874 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: right The Havanna syndrome will continue to remain enigmatic unless 875 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,479 Speaker 1: there is serious public investigation. And the Pentagon apparently thinks 876 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: that someone has some stuff they don't want Uncle Sam 877 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: to know. Strange bedfellows desperate times makes strange bedfellows of 878 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: us all we want to hear your strange news. Um, 879 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: if you were trapped with noasis over at that end, 880 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: we want to hear your story. We want to hear 881 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: your adventures in that regard, and I would love to 882 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: hear people's thoughts about Havanna syndrome. Would love to hear 883 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: people's thoughts like if you have someone that you've you 884 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,320 Speaker 1: felt was going too far down any rabbit hole, whether 885 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: that was something like Q and on or something you know, 886 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: a little more of a deep cut before the age 887 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: of social media. We'd love to hear those stories too. 888 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 1: You always put this out occasionally, you know, every so often. 889 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 1: Just a reminder. If you have proof of extraterrestrials or aliens, 890 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and send it to us. We're all eyes, 891 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: all ears. Literally just put on human skin for the 892 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: video parts of this show. Alright, you got your skin 893 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: all the time. As far as I know it, it 894 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: was unhygienic. You should watch you gotta shower bed. If 895 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,240 Speaker 1: your name is Mark Polly Moropolis and you're a former 896 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: CIA officer, please reach out to us. I'd love to 897 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: hear your story. I was watching an Al Jazeera interview 898 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: with you earlier, and if you're actually out there, we'd 899 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: love to speak with you. That's a direct call out 900 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 1: to you. Mark. It's not that you what ever listened 901 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: to this show? You have much better things to do. 902 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: You don't know. Well. Mark is listening right now, and 903 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: he's thinking, I love the show. I want to talk 904 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: to you guys, But how on earth do I find you? Mark, 905 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: You're in the right part of today's show. This is 906 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: where we tell you expert transition man. It's true. You 907 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: can find us all over the internet. 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