1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast, but in one of those 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Papa shot basketball games and has seen their productivity drop exponentially. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. I'm Dan hanss. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: I got a virtual room filled with heroes. Greg Rosenthal, 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf. Yes, Santa did import a Papa 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Shot into my home in December, and I've gotten quite 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: good at it. 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: A and B. 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: I do use it way more than my own children. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 3: Mmm, I don't know you have. 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 4: A Paapa Shot. I'm gonna come over. That's great. 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's the official one too. Okay, it's not 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a knockoff. 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: Do you ever like gradually pete against them and talk 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: trash when they can't stand up to you because they're 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: just little kids? 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: No, because they I am so much better than them 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: that there's no way to actually compete in any meaningful way. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of more solo private time for 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: old Zeuser and the Papa Shot. And then if whenever 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: the kids have any interest in playing, I'll throw them 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: a bone and watch them and tell them they're doing great, 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: but they're really not. Like I'm so much better than 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: the matter. 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: This was my approach with the sport of tennis with 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: my children, which I've dialogued with you guys about before, 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: where it was like an absolute seek and destroy mission, right, 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: and like let's not leave any wiggle room about who's 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: the most dominant performer. 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's exactly how I feel. I sometimes you 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: have to, like, all, my eldest son, Jack has really 32 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: gotten into playing basketball, and so we'll go across the street. 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: My neighbor has a hoop and we'll play, and you know, 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: I let them hang around in games. And then, as 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: an eight year old, boys want to do. Yeah, as 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: an eight year old boys want to do. You know, 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: if you start giving him some open looks and all 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden it looks like he's gonna win, then 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I have to just actually drop the hammer and bring 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: him down to earth. And I think, if you if 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna beat your dad, you're gonna have to do 42 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: it for real. I'm not handing out these fake dad victories. 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Come and get me for real. So I let him 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: get close and then take him down. That's my dad philosophy. 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: That's the only build up knockdown. 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: Can't let their heads get too big. 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, when he starts playing dirty starts elbowing you. That's 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: when you know he's a real man. 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Exactly, Connie, how are you? You are under the weather today? 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: So we really do thank you, and today is an 51 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: important episode. We're going around the AFC in forty eight 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: minutes coming off draft week. You were there, of course, 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, because it's always been kind of 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: weird to me, and I don't know how you guys 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: feel about it, but like, we know one Colleen and 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: then she shows up at these league events and she's 57 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: dressed like up like she's going to the oscars, and 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: it's just like it's kind of just jarring for me 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: in terms of cognitively, like when you are the dressed 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: up like a award show tent pole event, con is 61 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: that Colleen Wolf? Is that Connie Fox? Like who are 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: you right now? And who is that? You know? 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 5: I was actually thinking that is a totally separate representative 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 5: that I'm not even really that familiar with. She is 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 5: new to the scene and she only shows up like 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: maybe once a year, but she brings it and now me, 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 5: Colleen Wolf and Connie Fox, we have to suffer the consequences. 68 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 5: So my representative in Kansas City really did some great work, 69 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 5: but also my travels there. I got stuck in Denver. 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 5: I had to sleep on a bench in the airport 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 5: for an hour and then fly to Dallas to get 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: to Kansas City to do DJ's mock draft on like 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: an hour of sleep, and they lost my bags and 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: so I started off. 75 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: Really on a bad note. 76 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: And now I think everything has caught up with me. 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: So here we are. I'm actually not hungover. I'm sick. 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Colleen. When you were on our show last time, when 79 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: it was you and Clayban, you you mentioned that, you know, honestly, 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: it was a nice thing to share with the fans 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: that sometimes you deal with imposter syndrome, which which a 82 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: lot of people do. But do you find that that 83 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: the event Colleen maybe doesn't suffer from that, because maybe 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: that's your true self that comes out, you know, say, 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: like you said, two or three days a year, is 86 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: that the more authentic Colleen? 87 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: No, it's all an act. It's all truly an act. 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: Okay, it's still the genuine Colleen is inside. 89 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 4: That's like, what am I doing here? Why are they 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 4: sending me out on stage? Why am iy a hype man? 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: But here we go? So you it's it helps you. 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: Do tremendous work. You didn't answer the question, though, is 93 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: that is that Connie Fox? 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: It has shades of Connie Fox for sure. 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: That's and and who's talking about I don't know. 96 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: I think it's a new you know, because I'm sick. 97 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 5: I think I'm just going in between all of the 98 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 5: different representatives right now. No one has the wheel for sure, 99 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: so the car is going to crash at some point. 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: And I don't know really who's right, So you. 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Have multiple personality. It's a disorder. All right, we're gonna 102 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna hang in there. Hopefully Aunt Doreen makes an appearance. 103 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: We're excited. So yes, let's get caught up on one 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: bit of news before we get dive into the AFC. 105 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: It came out of Green Bay. Of course, it's a 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: whole new era for the Packers with Aaron Rodgers now 107 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: with the Jets and Jordan Love the quarterback. They had 108 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: a decision to make. It's a little clunky and awkward 109 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: the way it all came out where they took Jordan 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: Love as the first round pick three years ago. He 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: hasn't played yet, and now when he's about to take 112 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: over as the starter, the team has to make the decision, 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: as every team on first round picks do, on whether 114 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: they pick up their options. So instead of of the 115 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: fifty year options, so instead of doing that, the team 116 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: signed Love to an extension in which they greggie pay 117 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: him a different amount an actual a lesser amount, and 118 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: I suppose keep their options. What did you take out 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: of this? Why did the Packers go this route rather 120 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: than just pick up the fifth year option. 121 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: I was very surprised by this, Like a couple of 122 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: things can be true. It's absolutely a good move for 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: Green Bay. I think you know, they got him on 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: a very team friendly contract, and if you're Jordan Love, 125 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: I understand the idea of let's take some guaranteed money 126 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: right now. He got like a signing bonus that he 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: wouldn't have had otherwise. But I was just surprised that 128 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: they started at the point of like, actually, no, we're 129 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: not giving you a fifth year option. That's not something 130 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: we're interested in. That's like even twenty million dollars is 131 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: too much to guarantee without seeing you on the field. 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: And the fact that they are so committed to this 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 3: plan by getting rid of Aaron Rodgers, but they're not 134 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: committed enough that they even are confident enough to keep 135 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 3: Jordan Love into twenty twenty four. It's it's an eyebrow 136 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: razor and they're they're keeping their options and it means 137 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: he might not be on the team next season. 138 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 2: The one like for the lam Armie people that are 139 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: trumpeting the fact that you know, he did all what 140 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: he did without an agent and doesn't have to pay 141 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: those agent fees, which you know, I guess in the 142 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 2: rear view mirror that does look good. But I'm not mistaken. 143 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: It's David Mullagetta, who is Love's agent at least he 144 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 2: was a year ago, so he's able to both get 145 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: the highest guaranteed money for a quarterback ever in NFL 146 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: history and then go do this deal which looks sort 147 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: of like Love got slightly snowballed here, So quite a 148 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: versatile move from the agency. 149 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting on Saturday that Brian Gudakun 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: said it's when he was asked about Jordan Love whether 151 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 5: or not they would pick up his option, he said, 152 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: it's a lot of money for a guy who hasn't played. 153 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: But at the same time, obviously we're moving forward with him, 154 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: so we're going to figure it out by Tuesday, So 155 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 5: he kind of knew obviously that that was that sum. 156 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: It would have guaranteed him I think twenty point two 157 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 5: million dollars the fifth year option, So they save a 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 5: lot of money going thirteen point five now, and then 159 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: I guess, for love, if he does come out this 160 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 5: year and he does play well, he, in theory, has 161 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: more than one year to prove that he could be 162 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: the packer's future. So if he gets hurt or anything 163 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: like that, I guess it gives him a little bit 164 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 5: of insurance too. He's just not making the money he 165 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: could have. 166 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: It was sort of the opposite of betting on yourself. 167 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: That was the thing. He didn't want to bet on himself. 168 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: He wanted to take the money. And I totally get that, 169 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 3: like it's some security, but it just starting at the point. 170 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: And I'm sure they told Mullageda this, like, you're not 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: getting that fifth year option, so will you take something else? 172 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: And if not, we'll we'll just roll with you and 173 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: you'll be on a one year contract. 174 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: A little weird, yeah, And the thing with the Green 175 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Bay cap situation, it's a little complicated because they have 176 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: over forty million in dead money from Aaron Rodgers' contract 177 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: on the cap this season, so this gives them some 178 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: relief on that end of things. And then I think 179 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: that it's thirteen million guaranteed either way for love next year, 180 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: which is I think it's a financial it's a cap move. 181 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: I think as well, there's a lot of maybe different 182 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: moving parts to it. One more thing about the Lamar thing, 183 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: I wish any of us would have thought, like literally 184 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: anyone else like in football, and it covers or would 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: have thought of it like this was always the way 186 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: he should have played it. Don't hire the agent, don't 187 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: communicate with the team, and then wait for one of 188 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: those other three guys and then just say give me that. 189 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: That would have been so eat And that's kind of 190 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: what happened. But with Jalen hurts his contract like that, 191 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna do it going forward. If I 192 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: ever was in a similar situation, I'm just gonna wait. 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see who else is kind of on a 194 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: similar career trajectory or level in terms of our business, 195 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say, no, agency, give me that. And 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: even if I get a little bit less, I'm still 197 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: covering a making bank because I'm not paying the fee. 198 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing. 199 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: Well, the problem is you don't have Tom Pelasero like 200 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: reporting the negotiations of like Will Brinson's contract at CBS 201 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: or anything. 202 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: That's right. That's the issue, all right. So either way, 203 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is the quarterback this year, and then they 204 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: have to see if he could play the guitar. That's 205 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. And Mark, if he could 206 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: play that guitar, he will play the guitar for a 207 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: long set in Green Bay. If not, they'll be on those. 208 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: It's also I mean, it's like from one angle and 209 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: I know this is so one you know, no one 210 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: on Twitter could handle this side of it. But it's 211 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: like Love isn't a weird situation. The Packers are in 212 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: a weird situation. They kind of compromise, Like, I know, 213 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: you didn't get as much money as you could have, 214 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: but you've also done nothing for the Packers. It's kind 215 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: of like you met in the middle here and we'll 216 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: see what happens. But I understand, like you've got to go. 217 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: It's all about the green Backs, and you got to 218 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: go get everything you can otherwise you're gonna get absolutely 219 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: destroyed verbally by everyone who covers the sport. 220 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: This is unprecedented, right, a player getting an extension without 221 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: ever doing anything. 222 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: Now, that was that was what was interesting, not the 223 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: not the not the the compromise, which does make some sense, 224 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: but more like, this has literally never happened with this 225 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: fifty option type. So they're they're setting a new uh 226 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: foundation for other teams to copy. If they're if they're 227 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: like feeling mixed, if like we kind of like you 228 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: sort of, maybe we'll see again. 229 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: If it's just about doing some cap tidy work, they 230 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: have to sign their rookie class, it's a different situation. 231 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: But if it's not really about that, I just would 232 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: have went with the Daniel Jones route. The Giants went 233 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: decline it, play out the fourth year and then see 234 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: where we're at. But they didn't do it. Let's see 235 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: what happens, all right, shall we shall? We dig into 236 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: the AFC post draft. 237 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: Let's go, yeah, like to get your own boys, Let's. 238 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Go exactly and if you want to take a overall look, Colleen, 239 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I meant to tell you right after this, you and 240 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: I are going to do the Power Rankings podcast. 241 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: Oh perfect. 242 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: Check out NFL dot com slash Power Rankings or nfl 243 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: dot com slash handss to check out the latest power rankings. 244 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: So I've kind of I was underground working through all 245 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: this over the last couple of days, so I feel 246 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: pretty prepared for this. I hope you guys are as well. 247 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to spin through thirty two teams in two shows, 248 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: starting with the AFC thirty two, ninety sixteen and sixteen 249 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: teams to talk about let's do it justin. Starting out 250 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: for US is Mark Sessler on the Bills. 251 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: So I had a chance to watch a little bit 252 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: more of Dalton Kincaid and my takeaway and Greg, I 253 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: know you were talking him up a couple of shows 254 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: ago too, is I think he might wind up being 255 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: one of the best draft fits of any player in 256 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: the first round. I really it just fits exactly what 257 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: they need because he's, yeah, he's a tight end, but 258 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: he's really just basically their slot receiver. And I think 259 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: it shores up a wide out group that looked a 260 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: little thin after Stefan Diggs and Gave Davis, so you 261 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: know they were quiet in free agency. I think Damien 262 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: Harris was a good pickup and they did resign a 263 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: bunch of their own guys, but we're also watching like 264 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins and the Jets totally level up before our eyes. Well, 265 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: this is largely still the same Bills team as last year, 266 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: and I think it's easy just to pencil them in 267 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: for like the AFC title game year after year, but 268 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: I think it ignores like how often last year they 269 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: looked kind of asleep on offense and the Josh Allen 270 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: had an up and down year, and I just wonder 271 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: how the Bills enough, like are they ripe to be 272 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: overrated all off season or should I just clim it 273 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: with that concept? 274 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: They did the right thing in Kansas City. I mean 275 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: that was the move. I think getting a playmaker in there. 276 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: A lot of people connected wide receiver to him. They 277 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: went tight end, but yes, like you said, he could 278 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: play in the slot. Do I still really imagine if 279 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: they You know, they also add to the offensive line 280 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: with Osiris Torrens, and that was important because they took 281 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: a step back on the line last year and Josh 282 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Allen was sacked thirty three times. I like that move, 283 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: do I really what? I love them to put the 284 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: cherry on top of the Andre Hopkins. Yes, I still 285 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: think It makes so much sense, even if you're hearing 286 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: continued reports about Hopkins going back to Arizona. Imagine this 287 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: would be seen as a smashing success in Buffalo if 288 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: they topped it off with that, and they would go 289 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: just steaming into the season. But yeah, I do agree 290 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: with you, Kincaid. Makes made so much sense for them there. 291 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was telling Caiden box right. The first 292 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: two picks on offense to me, like they came into 293 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: this draft, We're gonna help out Josh Allen. Four of 294 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: the top or four of their six picks were on offense. 295 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: The first two. 296 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: Picks T minus one minute. 297 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: Oh, forget about that. 298 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Fix it. 299 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 3: I am wondering though, with Stefan Diggs, like gonna be 300 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: an issue that's sort of like an off season storyline. 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: It's like, let's keep an eye on Steffundis Connie. 302 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 5: I can't believe that they didn't get a corner back 303 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 5: until what like the last round in the draft. 304 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: That was kind of shocking to me. 305 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 5: So I forget how this works with the T minus 306 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: Like that's why I stopped talking. 307 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: Are we is this one where you get started? 308 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: Or no? Okay, that was one minute? 309 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: Oh that's great. 310 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, your ass gets started if you. 311 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: Go over though, Okay, yeah, I just like I was 312 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: really shocked that I knew that they would end up 313 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: getting a pass catcher. Obviously they went tight end instead 314 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 5: of a wide receiver because the tight end class was 315 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 5: so deep this year and so talented. But the fact 316 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 5: that they didn't get a corner kind of bothered me 317 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 5: about this whole draft class five. 318 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: The Stephan Digson is on my radar two, but Brandon 319 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: Bean said he wasn't concerned. I don't believe anything though. 320 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins Greg Roseval. 321 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: All right, they had a quiet draft, you know, just 322 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: because they didn't have their picks because the old hanky 323 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: panky with old Tom Brady and what not a year 324 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: ago trying to get that done with Sean Payton. But 325 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: I think their draft kind of continued a theme for 326 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: them in that they're like really deep. Their two first 327 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: picks Devin A. Chain was the running back in the 328 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: third round, and then Camp Smith at cornerback. Like, those 329 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: guys don't need to go in and play right away. 330 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: But I like those picks and they'll probably have a 331 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: role during the season. And I started looking up and 332 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: down this roster, and I gotta say it's a trend. 333 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: Like they have backups I like throughout their defense, like 334 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: too deep, they got them at running back. I like 335 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: the backups and wide receiver, I like the backups. Offensive 336 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: line is maybe an issue, but overall I look at 337 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: this as one of the best rosters in the league. 338 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: Like to and the offensive line are a little bit 339 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: of an issue, but otherwise I think it's one of 340 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: the best rosters in the entire NFL. 341 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Quick story Friday morning last week after the first round, 342 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: I went golfing with my father in law, Bob baits 343 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: Dds and it was like a top golf place, so 344 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: there was a bar and I went to get a 345 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: couple of drafts before we hit the course and as 346 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm paying up the tab, the guy notices my name 347 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: and he goes man, So they didn't send you to 348 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: the draft, huh? And first of all, that coming hurt 349 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: a little. 350 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: Bit, a little bit of a dig there a. 351 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Little bit of a day got defensive, and I was like, oh, well, 352 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: we don't really want to go. But anyway, he. 353 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: Turns out you like a runaway, like they didn't send 354 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: Brinson either. 355 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Shut up, no, But it turns out he was a 356 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins fan, and we started chatting up a little bit, 357 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: and I agreed, even as a Jets fan where he's 358 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: coming from, where it's like Miami, Like remember before two 359 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: got hurt, they were humming almost on a historic level. 360 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: On offense, they have a lot of pieces on both 361 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Nobody's talking about the Dolphins, and 362 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: maybe that's a good place to be the AFC East 363 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: sleeper sell here with all these other teams getting the hype. Yeah, 364 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. As a team. They could be a team 365 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: that wins eleven games this year. Easy. 366 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: Well, it is funny because it was a year ago 367 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: that everyone's like, oh, are we going to get four 368 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: teams from the AFC West and the playoffs? And two 369 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: of the AFC West teams didn't win more than six games. 370 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: So I'll wait and see what happens with the actual division. 371 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: But I am with you on the Dolphins. No one's 372 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: talking about them. I think. I really think in general 373 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: it's the two experience that there's just this general lack 374 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: of faith that Tua is one of those four or 375 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: five guys despite what happened last year. I'm not sure 376 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: it's fair, but I mean, you have to show that 377 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: you can get through a season with that quarterback or 378 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: like we have Mike White starting games, which I don't hate. 379 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and when I look at what the Dolphins did 380 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 5: this offseason, even before the draft, the fact that they 381 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 5: only had four picks going into the draft, but they 382 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 5: made the trade for Jalen Ramsey, which is huge because 383 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 5: it immediately filled a need for them. And then I 384 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 5: liked the first guy that they got, another cornerback. They 385 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 5: got Cam Smith who was really really good in the SEC. 386 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm a big college football girl. 387 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: So that's that's that. There we go right out the clock. 388 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call time out. I'm going to use their 389 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: first time out because I just want to cycle back 390 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: to interaction with the guy at the top golf bar. 391 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: It was a little bit and more more annoying too 392 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: because he kind of looked behind him at the TV 393 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: that was on NFL Network before making the comment, and 394 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: it was Jeremiah on the screen. 395 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: You're losing all over the place in that interaction. 396 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: Now for you. So like when he goes, you know, 397 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: so they didn't send you the draft, huh? I was like, 398 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: my real response should have been well, you're not at 399 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: the draft either. Didn't think of it fair. That would 400 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: have really put him in his place. 401 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: Dan, did he by chance dig down and discuss, you know, 402 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: what he thought about the other characters on the show. 403 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 2: Thoughts and feelings about Red Mark Colleen. 404 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: What does he think about Mark? 405 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: He says he loves you, Mark, and he thinks you're 406 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: a special person and a beautiful boy. 407 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: You can make. 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: Well. 409 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: They did send more to the draft. 410 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: All right, Mark Ross, maybe time in the New England Patriots. 411 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: So mac Jones is going to be there. But as 412 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: mac Jones set up for success, it couldn't be possibly 413 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: worse than last year. But they used their first three 414 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: picks on defensive players. Bill Belichick obviously, who's asked about 415 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that specifically, Hey what about the offense? Not a lot 416 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: of playmakers there, And you know Bill, he's a ground 417 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: grumble grumble. That was the board and he was the 418 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: best players there and all that stuff. But anyway, you 419 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: have Juju Smith Schuster there now, and it's like, man 420 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: if Juju Smith Schuster didn't take off with Patrick Mahomes 421 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: last year, we pretty much know who he is right now, 422 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: right and he's fine. He's pretty versatile but not really 423 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: a big playmaker. Necessarily a nice red zone target, but 424 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: not special. Mike Aseki, I think the Dolphins maybe misused 425 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: them a little bit or under used them. I like 426 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: him as a prospect, but they haven't proved that they 427 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: can get a tight end going since Gronk left. Is 428 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: there enough there? I mean, are they setting up mac 429 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Jones for failure again? But in a little bit of 430 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: a different way. 431 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: I think number one, Like I give them an automatic 432 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: sense of probably rising up much more than last year. 433 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: Just because Bill O'Brien, I mean, for all his issues 434 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: as a GM, he can run an offense. He and 435 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: mac Jones are super tight. I think that heals that 436 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: whole situation to some degree. But I'm with you, Dan, 437 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: Like when I look around at the other offenses in 438 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: the AFC, a super top heavy conference. I look at 439 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: the Patriots and it's just like at the end of 440 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: the rainbow, here's what I see. Zero when it comes 441 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: to that side of the ball, there's no way they're 442 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: gonna win with eleven twelve games. I trust their defense, but 443 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: it's like I think, Bill Belichick, it's like you've had 444 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: two off seasons to go correct this to course correct 445 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: a rather bland attack, and last year you went completely 446 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: in the direction and you're sitting in neutral this offseason. 447 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 4: Does he want to fix it? 448 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: Like, because it doesn't really seem that way when you 449 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 5: pass all of these tight ends that are supposed to 450 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: be so good and the wide receivers you don't You 451 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 5: don't draft a pass catcher until round six. 452 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: I mean that is kind of a slap to Mac Jones. 453 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 5: And I do though, like Christian Gonzales a lot, the 454 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 5: guy that they traded down for. He's a really good player, 455 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 5: and I feel like that's going to be a huge, 456 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 5: huge boon for that secondary. 457 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you draft Kaishan Ba in the sixth round, 458 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: you got to get excited about that. Boote was a 459 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: guy who's kind of interesting for a six round pick, 460 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: who people thought would be a top ten first round 461 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: type pick. He had a little Boote to the mix. 462 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: You're feeling good. 463 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: How about I'll put on my tinfoil hat. Now. Robber 464 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: Craft wouldn't let Bill trade Mac, so Bill says, I'm 465 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: just not going to build up the offense and get 466 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: him out of the picture next year and then build 467 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: up on offense after he's gone. 468 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: On a real note, I do think there's something too 469 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: like Bill wants to do it again. He wants to 470 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: do it with defense. He wants to dig when they 471 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: rest of the league. Zact. They were third and fourth 472 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: in DVOA the last two years with pretty lackluster looking 473 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: rosters going into the season on defense, and they had Gonzales. 474 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: They thought they got a great pick with Keon White, 475 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: and they're pretty loaded on their defensive line and their 476 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: defensive backfield. I think Bill thinks, if I make my 477 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: defense look number one, at least I look good and 478 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 3: maybe we read yeah. 479 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: But Greg the third and fourth and DVOA and went nowhere. 480 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: Right, Well, they're just I feel like they're just looking 481 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: for ten wins. They're the new Saints. I mean, they're 482 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: hoping to get to eight. Shoot me in the neck, 483 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: shoot it with defense them. I want him. This is 484 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: like my personal game of Bitie. This is the only 485 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: way I feel alive. 486 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 4: This feels like it should be behind a paywall. 487 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: Colleen, the New York Jets. 488 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: All right, Well, the highlight of the draft came days 489 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: before with Aaron Rodgers finally becoming official. It wasn't so 490 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 5: much about splash like it was last year. It was 491 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 5: more about necessity, so it wasn't as sexy, which I 492 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 5: thought their draft last year was the sexiest. 493 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 4: But I thought that they. 494 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 5: Would get an offensive tackle, but all of the guys 495 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 5: were pretty much already gone at pick fifteen. I think 496 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: there were four guys potentially already gone by that point, 497 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: but so fifteen overall, they went will McDonald, who he's 498 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 5: been pretty good over the past four seasons on the edge. 499 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: She has thirty three sacks. I like that. 500 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: Addition for Robert Sala, I'm hoping that he plays better 501 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: than like this noise. I'm hearing about all of the 502 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: doubters in him going too high, but that's that. And 503 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 5: then on the offensive line, they did get a center, 504 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 5: Joe Tipman in the second round. I think that that 505 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 5: could be a long term solution for them, and then 506 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: potentially someone who could help clear some lanes for Breese 507 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 5: Hall once he's back from his ACL So then the 508 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: right side of that line would be Tipman, Elijah Arah Tucker, 509 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 5: and then Makai Beck. The biggest question of all. I 510 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 5: thought maybe they would remedy that in this draft, but 511 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: they're gonna just have to figure it out because they 512 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 5: got in the fourth round Carter Warren the tackle from Pitt. 513 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: He's a Jersey guy, but I just don't know if 514 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 5: he's going to be a guy that can start right away. 515 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: He missed most of the last six months with that 516 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: knee injury. 517 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 5: A lot of people say that he could have been 518 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 5: like a Day two pick, but I don't know if 519 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 5: he'll be able to play right away, and they kind 520 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: of need someone to play it right away. And then 521 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 5: that backup plan that they did at running back, I 522 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: like with Breeshall coming off the injury and getting I 523 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 5: don't know how to pronounce his name. I'm not going 524 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: to try and pronounce his name, but I know that 525 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 5: they call him Izzy instead of Israel Izzy. 526 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. So he's fast, and he's got big play threat, 527 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: and he could make an immediate impact. 528 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: So they went out and you know, they try to 529 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: push back on the idea that they got screwed out 530 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: of a tackle in round one, But then they went 531 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: out right after the draft and went and got Billy 532 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: turned Or, a veteran who used to start for the 533 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Packers started games for the Broncos last year, and it 534 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: is that's the biggest vulnerability of the team right now, 535 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: my opinion is that they didn't add a blue chip 536 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: prospect at the tackle, and if they deal with injuries again, 537 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: you have a thirty nine year old quarterback and a 538 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: leaky offensive line. That's how bad things happen. That's how 539 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Rogers is either less effective or gets injured. And then 540 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: as of right now, Zach Wilson comes in. If Aaron 541 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers gets injured, that's another kind of weird subpotle around 542 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: this team. Zach Wilson is still there and you have 543 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: an elderly quarterback and it's like there is a scenario 544 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: where he ends up seeding time to Zach Wilson. So 545 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: there are some doomsday scenarios, but this has always been 546 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: a big swing for the Jets and there are risks involved. 547 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: I think that there are nothing but kind of positive 548 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: reports about Mackay Beckt in this offseason. There where a 549 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: year ago is like does this guy want to do this? 550 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: We're not sure and he gets hurt. I mean, you 551 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: have to hope that had they stayed healthy along the 552 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: line last year, they would have been fine. So it's 553 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: like if you get better, better luck on that front 554 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: and Beckton turns out eight, I think you're all right, 555 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: if you lose Rogers, like the whole plan goes to hell. Anyways. 556 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: Four three he's a durable old guy. He never misses games. 557 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: What do you mean? Sixteen sixteen, sixteen, sixteen, seventeen. Those 558 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 3: are his starts the last seven years. 559 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: Sixty good point. All right, hey man, old God, listen 560 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: from your lips to God's ears. He's going to be healthy. 561 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll move to the AFC North. 562 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back AFC East End, the rear View 563 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: AFC in forty eight minutes. Up next is the AFC North, 564 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: and Connie, we're kicking it back to you to talk 565 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals. 566 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the Bengals and what they 567 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 5: did here in Kansas City. They kind of went Day 568 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 5: one was best available. I really thought that Cincinnati would 569 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: draft a tight end or a dB in the first round, 570 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 5: and instead they went with an edge play Miles Murphy. 571 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 5: So they're going to just try and build that rotation 572 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 5: that they have with Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard and 573 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 5: then eventually Miles Murphy can be a starter. 574 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: But I don't know were. 575 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 5: You guys shocked about this, the fact that they didn't 576 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: get a tight end and one of the deepest, most 577 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: talented classes in a while. 578 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: I mean it think it's sort of like a result 579 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 2: of like every mock draft suggesting they would and it 580 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: was in need. Like there's reports now that like Irv 581 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: Smith is sort of locked in as their guy, which 582 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: I don't love that because, if anything, Cincinnati has been 583 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: an embarrassment of riches all over the field, and like 584 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: going and getting a young one of those young athletic 585 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: tight ends would have been transformative I think for the offense. 586 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I was surprised that they avoided it. Essentially, 587 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: they they avoided the whole draft, and they don't have 588 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: a lot of answers. The one thing I do love, 589 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: I think the Orlando Brown signing was a great kupdeta 590 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 2: for them. 591 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: I see Joe Mixon now still on the roster, Lyle 592 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: Collins still on the roster, Joanah Williams still on the roster. 593 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: I think if the draft had falled fallen different, they 594 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 3: would take a tight end. But Kinkaid goes early. They 595 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: probably felt that that spot, like they're a premium position 596 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: type of team, like we're going to take the positions 597 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: that end up costing a lot of money in free agency, 598 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: and we're going to take them high in the draft. 599 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: And so you take Miles Murphy, who's very similar to 600 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: Hubbard and Hendrickson and replaces him, and then you take 601 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 3: dej Turner. I kind of love it's weird that they 602 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: went defense, defense, defense, but I do kind of love 603 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 3: that they're very Eagles like to me, and that they're 604 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: almost always planning a year out. They're always back drafting 605 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 3: for backups for guys that don't need to play right 606 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: away and then step into it. And they have a 607 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: really good history of like when they do step in, 608 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: that they're really good players and that they play a lot. 609 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: So it's a team that I think isn't as need 610 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: focused and is thinking long term, and they've kind of 611 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: deserved the benefit of the doubt. 612 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know what would have happened, but I 613 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: do wish we would have found out if Jamior Gibbs 614 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: was still on the on the clock when the Bengals picked. 615 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: Supposedly the Jets were maybe going to take him at fifteen, 616 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: which I don't know if I buy either, and the 617 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: pay would not have been happy with who knows, but. 618 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, like Gibbs when he goes off the board 619 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: and surprises everyone at twelve, that takes both of the 620 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: top quote unquote running backs in the class out of 621 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: the mix. They do go take Chase Brown in the 622 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: fifth round on Saturday. And you know the Joe Mixon situation. 623 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: You've heard so many comments about him from the team, 624 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: and you know he's facing criminal charges right now. But 625 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor got behind him a little bit after the draft. 626 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: His future is here with the team. I like Joe Mixon, 627 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: so I'm going to now operate under the assumption that 628 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: they're going to move forward with him. Does he have 629 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: a suspension coming? Is he still a good running back? 630 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: He took a step back last year. I think they're 631 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I'm cool with them focusing on defense. 632 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: Sy Dj Turner, Oh, she's already feeling ill and she's 633 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: just been shot by two darts that hit their target. 634 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: That is not Yeah, that's the immune system takes another hit, 635 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: all right. The Baltimore Ravens hey Man good times in 636 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens. Nest Lamar is paid, he's healthy right now. 637 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: He's surrounded by the best skill position talent he's ever had, 638 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: you have Beckham. You know, an opinions vary on what 639 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: Beckham's going to give you at this point in his 640 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: career with off his second ACL, but it's exciting. It's 641 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: an exciting signing. Rashad Bateman, Zay Flowers coming off the 642 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: board immediately, that's legitimately frisky Trio wide receivers. Mark Andrews 643 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: remains one of the best playmakers at tight end in football. 644 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like and don't underestimate Lamar Jackson with 645 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: a new contract that's all kind of out like from 646 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: the all the dark clouds that that brought with it. 647 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: Do we get like MVP level Lamar Jackson back this 648 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: year because he's been hurt of the last couple of years. 649 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: At times his play has not been as high a level, 650 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: certainly as it was in nineteen one of the the MVP. 651 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Is he going to get back to that or will 652 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen ultimately be a bit of an outlier When 653 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: looking about at what he can. 654 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: Produce, I think, like, obviously it comes down to being there, 655 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: being present, because his lack of presence, his lack of durability, 656 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: took him out of that conversation and took the Ravens 657 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: out of the conversation in January as a serious contender. 658 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: I mean, for me, there were moments last season trying 659 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: to think it was the I think it was the 660 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: Monday night game against the Saints where he made a 661 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: couple throws where it's like, this guy can do everything, 662 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: and like the way you have to plan form is insane, 663 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: and you've added Zay Flowers to add it. If you 664 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: get the good version of Odell Beckham, they're giving him 665 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: a chance, I think, to thrive through the air and 666 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: to do what he does on the ground, and you 667 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: got all the contract nonsense out of the way, So 668 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: you'd hope the head is clear, because I think it's 669 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 2: fair to question, like did he push as hard as 670 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: he could to play at the end of last year. 671 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, but sort of 672 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: what everyone's talking about that doesn't happen this time around. 673 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had really weird seasons of the last two seas. 674 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: I mean twenty twenty one, he looked like an MVP 675 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: for five weeks then kind of goes off a cliff, 676 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: gets hurt. Last year similar where it was like a 677 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: really fast start and then again kind of the injuries 678 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: in the play. I mean, it's a huge sea change 679 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: to have Todd Monk and the excuses are out. There's 680 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: no Greg Roman, there's receivers this team. There's too many 681 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: teams in the AFC that are going to be disappointed 682 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: because they feel like almost a super Bowler bus team 683 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: because everything's loaded. Their front seven on defense isn't amazing. 684 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: But other than that, man, they are like kind of 685 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: loaded for bear as much. And I'm excited that Greg 686 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: Roman is not there and they have a different coordinator. 687 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: Lamar is in good shape for this year, like adding 688 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 5: Odell Beckham but then adding Zay Flowers, who can do 689 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 5: a lot of different things on the field. You can 690 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 5: play him out of the slot, you can line them 691 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 5: up outside too, and like I mean, he's he's so good. 692 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: That's a great addition to that passing game. I was 693 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: really surprised that DaCosta. We didn't see him like moving 694 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: around at all either, Like usually we see him making 695 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: trades and being involved in some of these like more 696 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: splashy things. And I guess the splashy thing was getting 697 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 5: Lamar signed. 698 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: They didn't give a Patrick Queen a fifth your option 699 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: by the way. 700 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they declined that when was the Lamart has to 701 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: take a poop game. 702 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 4: End of two years ago, that that was. 703 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: The last time whatever put down the trank. That was 704 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: the last time that that he felt like a superstar 705 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: when he had a taken poop and he came out 706 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: and shredded the Browns in that great back and forth game. 707 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: That's the guy I want back. And in twenty twenty, 708 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: it looks like. 709 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: About that Dolphins game that was like fifty one, wasn't 710 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: that crazy? Last year? In Week two that was you know, 711 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: it was like, oh, that's right, same game, back and forth. 712 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: But you're right, it's been hit and miss hit miss. 713 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: All right up next, you. 714 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: Know, we should have used the time out. Also, it 715 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: wasn't surprising Patrick Queen didn't get a fifth year option. 716 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: I misspoke, like he's kind of been on the outs. 717 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 718 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers Greg Rosenthal, all Right. 719 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: My question is just as Matt Canada and Kenny Pickett 720 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: up to the challenge, Like that's my big question because 721 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 3: it's another team that I really like their draft, I 722 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 3: like their offseason. I think they've added enough on their 723 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: offensive line with BROGERC. Jones, and they also had a 724 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: quiet move in free agency Isaac Saamalo, who's a good 725 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: pickup at guard. So like they have receivers, they have 726 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 3: the running backs. I think the offensive line is better. 727 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 3: But they kept Matt Canada and like Kenny Pickett was 728 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: a good rookie quarterback. I think he beat lowish expectations. 729 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: But the harder part is like, okay, you're you were 730 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 3: a decent rookie quarterback. Can you take that year or 731 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: two leap? Like if Matt Canada and Pickett are up 732 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 3: to the challenge, this is a fun little team. 733 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 2: We were pretty tough on Canada last year early on, 734 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: and you know, if you look back, he struggled with 735 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: a late career Ben Roethlisberger who was breaking down, and 736 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: then you had a rookie quarterback and you had Mitch 737 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: Trubisky and it was just like, not a great situation. 738 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: The offense took a while to grow, but by the 739 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: end of the year, I thought the whole thing looked 740 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 2: a lot better and I kind of stopped thinking about 741 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: Matt Canada the same way. But you know, handling the 742 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: a young career, like the young career of a quarter 743 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 2: is so important that if he looks if he stands 744 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: out is not creative enough or not really capable enough. 745 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: I think he's got one year. Matt Canada topproved that 746 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: he can make this offense basically sing. 747 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 5: I think that we could see Kenny Pickett make that 748 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 5: jump this year. We saw from him flashes of what 749 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 5: he can potentially do, especially with George Pickens making incredible catches. 750 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 5: I don't know what Alan Robinson has left and how 751 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 5: he'll look on this offense, but I mean, I just 752 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 5: remember being in Pittsburgh for that Christmas Eve game and 753 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: watching at the very end when I mean, obviously Derek 754 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 5: Carr helped them out with some of those interceptions, but 755 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 5: watching Kenny Pickett make that play Pickett to Pickens, I 756 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 5: believe it was and the whole place just erupted, and 757 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 5: it was the frank O Harris game, and it just 758 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 5: felt like they finally started to kind of get some 759 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 5: of that momentum late in the season. 760 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 4: And then their draft I like too. 761 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 5: I like Broderick Jones adding tackle there, and then of 762 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 5: course Joey Porter Junior, who was like the most exciting 763 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: guy to be mocked to them all off season long. 764 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: They really are moving forward. Of course, it's been a 765 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: couple of years now, but it really does start. They've 766 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: now rebooted post Big Ben. They've used their last three 767 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: first round picks on offensive players. It was Naj Harris, 768 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: then the quarterback picket now Broderick Jones and I agree. 769 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: This is you know, Pickett entering his second season. You're 770 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna want to see growth there, and I think there 771 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: he's set up better than he was last year. 772 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: So you know, it's like stands out to me. 773 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm down. 774 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 2: Like the good teams now they rebuild in one season. 775 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: There is no three yearly four year rebuild like the 776 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: good teams turn it around to go through transformation one 777 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: year and that's what the Steelers. 778 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why, like Daniel Jones was an outlier in 779 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: that sense. Usually it's your quarterback after two years track 780 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: me does feel good? Up next? You might have to 781 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: up the power of the trank because you've tranked this 782 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: so many times. Justin that is. 783 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 4: Can I get one? Can I get in on that? 784 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 4: Can I get a hit of that track? 785 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: Thanks? Yeah, I think I've been like exceedingly obedient and 786 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: I've been tranked. I think not once You've been a 787 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 2: good boy, Mark. 788 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: I think that caught you in the eye, right in 789 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: the eye. Put the patch on them up next, Mark Sessler. 790 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns. 791 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: I feel like nobody's uh talking about the Browns, and 792 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: it's like I even think I just like kind of 793 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: write them off as a seven win team for a 794 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: lot of reasons that are I think a little bit 795 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: unfair because, if anything, when I look at the roster, 796 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't think there's enough pressure on the Browns right 797 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: now because they have a win now offense. Like just 798 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: look at the names you got, Nick Chubb, David Nijoku, 799 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper. If Elijah Moore works out, Donovan People's Jones, 800 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: I really like Cedric t. Hillman, their third round wide 801 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: receiver David Bell might work out. Their offensive line is 802 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: still good, and imagine if like Deshaun Watson is a 803 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: little bit better. And I think on defense, which was 804 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: a huge issue Jim Schwartz took over, I think it's 805 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: gonna be their issue was coaching. I love that upgrade there. 806 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 2: They got better in the middle. And it's like, I'm 807 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: not calling them a Super Bowl contender, but how is 808 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: really anything less than a wild card berth anything but 809 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: a complete flaming disaster for Kevin Stefanski. The roster is 810 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: better than people realize. 811 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 3: I hear you, but there's like only so much trum. 812 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: But I kind of agree that if they were in 813 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 3: the AFC South, I would make them the favorites. They 814 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: were in the NFC South, they would make them the 815 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: favorites a couple other divisions, like they'd be co favorites, 816 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: like the NFC North or something, But they're stuck in 817 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 3: this division. They're stuck in the AFC where some teams 818 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 3: are going to get disappointed. I think it's fair, though, 819 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: to look at that roster and they addressed their biggest 820 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: problems this offseason and say, like, they don't really have 821 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 3: huge problems other than Deshaun Watson stunk last year. If 822 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: he gets back to being a top ten quarterback, which 823 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: is a huge if, but then they could be rolling. 824 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 825 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 5: And the fact that they went so defensive heavy in 826 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 5: the top with the draft here, I mean, what Andrew 827 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 5: Barry had in this draft, what he had to work with, 828 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 5: was not that much, but I thought that the picks 829 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 5: were really solid with what he did, and then adding 830 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 5: a guy on the edge and adding a defensive tackle 831 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 5: and inside linebacker, they needed more guys in the middle 832 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 5: that could actually stop the run, that could actually make 833 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 5: a difference on that defensive line. 834 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: So I liked what they did. 835 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to be reductive about this, but and 836 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the Browns during Power Rank. He's 837 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: like they're laying in the weeds a little bit in 838 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, because if Watson is a limited quarterback at 839 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 1: this point, yeah, they're done. They're not just done this year, 840 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: They're done for multiple years. And that was part of 841 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: the gamble of the contract they gave Watson. But if 842 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: Watson does come back and have his game back, they 843 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: can absolutely hang in this division and in my opinion, 844 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: any division, because he was that good before everything went 845 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: sideways in his life. So I think it's I think 846 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: it's one of the big if we look at maybe 847 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: we'll do it later in the summer. Like the big 848 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: questions of the twenty twenty three NFL season, who is 849 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson? That is to me one of the biggest 850 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: because it defines it's a huge question mark in the 851 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: whole conference. For me. 852 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like I mean, his performance over six games, 853 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: it's not like, I guess, super surprising, but it leaves 854 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: you completely mystified about who he is. That's part of 855 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: the last thing he wanted as a sample sizes. We 856 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: have no idea who he is right now. 857 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: If he lights up, if he lights up the league 858 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: in September six, you know, the Browns are legitimately dangerous three. 859 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: But we just don't know if that guy's coming back. 860 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 4: We haven't seen him in a while. 861 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: That's his fault, not ours. Let's take a break and 862 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: then we will hit the AFC South. All right, welcome back. 863 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: We are going around the AFC in forty eight minutes, 864 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: three minutes a team, and we now moved to the 865 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: suddenly interesting or I could say intriguing AFC South. Mark 866 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: get us going with the Jacksonville Jaguars. 867 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, from like a DVA angle. They finished last year 868 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: with the ninth best offense and if you look at 869 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 2: if you break it down to over like the final 870 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: six weeks or so, they were like the third best 871 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: passing attack in the league. And so obviously Trevor Lawrence 872 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: made about as big of a leap of any quarterback 873 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 2: not named Jalen Hurts. It went perfectly for them down 874 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: the stretch, and they gave the Chiefs a fight in 875 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 2: January and there's really nothing not to like, and they've 876 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 2: added Calvin Ridley to the mix. So I guess what 877 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 2: I would ask you is like, are you buying the 878 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 2: Jaguars as the NFL's next consistently awesome passing attack slash 879 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 2: offense or do you think, like you know what, there 880 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: might be a sneaky regression here that people aren't ready 881 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 2: to deal with. And I guess, you know, I just say, 882 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: if you can smell, like what the rock is cooking, 883 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 2: what does it smell like to you? 884 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: Caught me off balance of that one. 885 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 2: Well, she just came to mind, like, I mean, what's 886 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: happening here? Like they're back there cooking something up, and 887 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 2: it's like everyone's assuming it's going to be next step up. 888 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's a lock? 889 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 3: Are you a big rock fan? Are you? 890 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 4: I didn't notice about Mark. 891 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 2: Super multi talented. I wasn't. I mean, I know that 892 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 2: was his sort of tagline. I didn't track that his 893 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 2: career as a wrestler overly heavy because I don't watch wrestling. 894 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: But I'm a little anxious. 895 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: Let's get back in the track. 896 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little anxious. Just if I'm smelling something 897 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: like it smells. It smells. It smells good, but it's 898 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 3: not the spiciest thing in the world. I'm a little 899 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: anxious that, like all the rookies they signed this year, 900 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 3: they're not projected to necessarily start. They kind of just 901 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 3: stood on what their team was a year ago. They 902 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,959 Speaker 3: made so much improvement and they spent so much money 903 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 3: a year ago that they sort of didn't have to 904 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 3: and these things go in cycle. They couldn't. They need 905 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: improvement from within. I'm more concerned about the defense, So 906 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 3: I guess to answer your question, I think it's more 907 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: likely that their offense stays quite good, uh, and that 908 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 3: there's not much regression there. I'm a little more worried 909 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: about the defense. They need Devin Lloyd, Treyvon Walkers. 910 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 5: About it, yeah, better, Like especially when you have Cam Robinson, 911 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 5: who he's going to face that suspension at the beginning 912 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 5: of the year. But they drafted Anton Harrison, who is 913 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 5: probably going to have to be play right away in 914 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 5: that situation. 915 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 4: But he was really really good. 916 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 5: He allowed just one sack over the past two seasons. 917 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 5: So I think that this offense is just going to 918 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: grow and get better based on what they did last year. 919 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the flavor of the offense 920 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: is going to be. I think the flavor of their 921 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: draft is like a potato salad served at a barbecue 922 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: in Orlando. It Yeah, it's it's maybe a little bit 923 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot of mayo in it. But Trevor Lawrence is 924 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: spicy as f and the rock can smell that cooking. 925 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: And I think he is going to continue to go 926 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: up in ability and production. I think he could be 927 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: an MVP this year. 928 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 4: So with Calvin Ridley, Calvin Ridley on Christian Kirk together. Yeah, wow. 929 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans. 930 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: Greg Rosenthal, Okay, I was looking at this team, They're 931 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: not more interesting, Like they're the one team in the 932 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 3: AFC South. That's just making me wonder are they just 933 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 3: boring or are they bad and boring? And my instinct 934 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 3: would be they're probably more just boring. They aren't necessarily 935 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: that bad. You look at their defense, it's actually, you know, 936 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 3: very similar, if not better to the defensive roster they 937 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 3: had when they were the one seed in the AFC. 938 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 3: They're going to get a lot healthier this year. Like 939 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 3: it's a good front seven and especially the defensive line 940 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 3: in a good defensive backfield if Tannehill's there, Yeah, they 941 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 3: have no one at wide receiver. But I think they 942 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 3: can reasonably expect that they're going to coach this team 943 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: up because they found a way to win games, and 944 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 3: like they might just be boring, but I'm not sure 945 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: that they're necessarily going to be that bad. They just 946 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: fit right in with the rest of the AFC South too, 947 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 3: if they traded Tannehill, which I feel like there's a 948 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 3: bigger chance. Still, people recognize than all bets are off. 949 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 5: They're wide receivers are trailing burks and you have Nick Westbrook, 950 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 5: A Kine and Kyle Phillips. I mean, this is a 951 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 5: rough wide receiver group. Like I feel like we can't 952 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 5: just brush that aside. I don't know, I don't really 953 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 5: have a ton of confidence in them. And then I mean, 954 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: thank god they have Derrick Henry there, but it's not 955 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 5: like they have any great tight ends either on this roster. 956 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you, where it's like they 957 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 2: they we can't brush off the wide receiver situation. They 958 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 2: seemed to be willing to do that. There was no 959 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 2: ability to go trade for anyone, draft anyone, and it 960 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: leaves like Will Levis if he ends up starting. If 961 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 2: they do move Tannehill at some point, like in a 962 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 2: rough spot for a rookie quarterback, I think, I mean, yeah, 963 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 2: you'll have Derek Henry, but I'm not totally sold that 964 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 2: Derek Henry's on this roster. If they're not way to 965 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 2: sell him at a point where you can sell high, I. 966 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: Think I'm just curious how they're gonna play this. They 967 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: obviously didn't value Levis enough to take him in the 968 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: first round, but they valued him enough to trade up 969 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: and get him in the second round. And if this 970 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: team is what pretty much everybody thinks they'll be, let's say, 971 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: even being somewhat kind, let's say they're four and four 972 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: in October, they're five and seven heading into November, Like, 973 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: at what point do you pull the ripcord if you 974 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 1: have Ryan Tannehill as starter and go look at Will Levis, 975 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: Because if you're going to keep Tannehill around and you're 976 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna keep Dereck Henry around, that tells me you think 977 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: you could still compete and be a playoff team. So 978 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: that all makes sense to start the season with him, 979 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: But at what point do you have to pivot and 980 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: start spinning forward. 981 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 3: They're hoping. I think the coaching staff changes things. You know, 982 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 3: he brought in Tim Kelly, who was with him in Houston. 983 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 3: Maybe the most important guy in the roster or on 984 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 3: the staff is Jason Hutling. That's their new offensive line coach. 985 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 3: Their offensive line has been so bad, and they added 986 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: a couple pieces like Scronsky. But if you can get 987 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 3: good offensive line coaching, you can get a lot better. 988 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: They did six picks all on offense, so it's not 989 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: like they ignored their offense. It was an all offense 990 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 3: draft line. 991 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 5: When does will Lovis come in? Do we believe in Willlvis? 992 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 5: What is his role going to be? 993 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 4: That's my biggest question. 994 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 3: Dan took the time out. 995 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: See I had to save Colleen from a dart to 996 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: the jugular. 997 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 4: I know, thank you. 998 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 2: I feel like you guys want That's what I was 999 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 2: to land in your body. That's what I keep that 1000 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: from you. 1001 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 4: I would love a dart right here. 1002 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: That is also I had, I had, I had laid 1003 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: that out as well previously. Colleen, like, what is the 1004 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: plan with tan Hill? And when does the quarterback enter 1005 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: the equation? They're in? They're in an in between period. 1006 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 1: By the way, justin how weird is it to be 1007 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: Malik Willis now you are a third round pick of 1008 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: a prior regime and it just seems like he is 1009 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 1: basically floating throughout her space without a helmet on. Yeah. 1010 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 6: I don't think Milik Willis as long for the Titans, 1011 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 6: probably end of training camp type of cut, unless they 1012 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 6: decided to trace. 1013 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 3: Cut him. 1014 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: Definitely. People people sleep on how bizarre the end of 1015 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 1: the season was last year that they had this kid 1016 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: Willis that they brought in for Tannehill and then they 1017 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: were so out on him that they took Josh Dobbs 1018 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: off the street and what was essentially a playoff game 1019 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: like and then and then they draft a quarterback, but 1020 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: they didn't take them. 1021 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 3: They were out on Tannehill. They took him eighty sixth 1022 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 3: in the draft after like drafting four others. 1023 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't think it's that weird. 1024 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that weird because John Robinson ejector 1025 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 2: seat out of there probably was his guy much more 1026 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: than Rabel's. Vrabel's comments on Malik Willis at the end 1027 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 2: of that year, when they opted for Josh Dobbs, who 1028 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 2: had like four days of practice with him told me 1029 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: all I needed to hear. Now they went and drafted 1030 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 2: someone else. Like the head coach who has buy in 1031 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: from the GM on this front has zero belief in 1032 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: Malik Willis, and Malik Willison his own play didn't give 1033 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: the fan much belief. And so I'm kind of with 1034 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 2: grave Digger, like there's a sneaky world where he doesn't 1035 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: make this roster. 1036 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 5: Wasn't Dobbs good in that game? By the way, Dobbs 1037 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 5: was like a Thursday night game. He came in that 1038 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 5: like was he. 1039 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 6: Did throw like a backbreaking interception, but like he was 1040 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 6: just trying to make a play. Malik Willis was one 1041 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 6: of the worst starting quarterbacks in the league last year. 1042 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 6: He completed like eight passes or something. 1043 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: It was horrible. Well my point, My point is he's 1044 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: a third round pick and then as a rookie and 1045 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,479 Speaker 1: he has two bad games and everybody's like, all right, 1046 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: he sucks. I think, well, a lot of quarterbacks suck 1047 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,959 Speaker 1: when they they're first learning the league. At this level, 1048 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not saying he was a third 1049 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: round pick. I understand, and it's a different GM now. 1050 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: I understand that, But the fact, if I'm Malik Willis, 1051 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: I'm feeling like man, I thought I didn't really get 1052 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: a shot here and I'm already now done. Yeah yeah, 1053 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: I think from Malik's perspective, not enough people do. 1054 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 6: They were trying to make the playoffs at the end 1055 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 6: of the year and they just didn't believe that he 1056 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 6: was ready to get it done. Maybe they think he 1057 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 6: needed off season of development. Maybe he'll be the quarterback 1058 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 6: two and Will Levis will be the QB one, and 1059 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 6: you ship Bryan Tannehill off or save him and trade 1060 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 6: him at the trade deadline. That's what I would do. 1061 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,560 Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs, by the way, is now Deshaun Watson's backup hopefully. 1062 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 3: You know, if I'm Watson, you don't want to miss 1063 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: any games or your backup might look better than you. 1064 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 2: For the second streets, it's the beach each television time 1065 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 2: out here it is now. 1066 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: We have one time out remaining, okay, and I'm not 1067 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: saying I have to call it, so just use it 1068 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: wisely though. Here we go the Houston Texans the old shuster. 1069 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: Do you, Connie, you think the Titans have issues a 1070 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver? The Texans pull the trigger on CJ. Shroud 1071 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: at too, then trade a first round pick to move 1072 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: back up to take a defensive end, Will Anderson at three, 1073 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: and then the draft ends and you look at their 1074 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: depth chart and it's like what their number one wide 1075 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: receivers Robert Woods. Robert Woods looks shot last year in Tennessee. 1076 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: He had five hundred yards receiving. He is their number 1077 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. They traded Brandon Cooks. The Dallas Cooks 1078 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: didn't want anything to do with that being there, So 1079 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,720 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do there? But they have here's 1080 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: some names. This is what I'm gonna call a segment. 1081 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,760 Speaker 1: The segment's called some names. Nathaniel Dell, Xavier Hutchinson, Nicocollins, 1082 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: Noah Brown, who they picked up at free agency. Like 1083 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,800 Speaker 1: c J. Stroud is gonna struggle throwing in tight windows 1084 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be nobody who opened many weeks this year. 1085 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 2: I do like Nico Collins. You're right, they're in the 1086 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: short supply there. But Tank Dell, I think is someone 1087 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 2: who has already said he's like got a chip on 1088 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: his shoulder and looked at every wide out that was 1089 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: taken over him, like there's someone to like there. I know, Daniel, 1090 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 2: you'll never buy into that concept. But it's just like 1091 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 2: it's in need. They had need. They also, like a 1092 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 2: year ago, had needs everywhere, and I honestly think the 1093 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 2: one thing they did is they went and got a 1094 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 2: coach who's gonna I think Tomico Ryans is like coach 1095 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 2: of the Year material because I think they could sneaky 1096 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 2: win eight or nine games somehow and like it would 1097 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 2: be a feel good story after three years of total 1098 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 2: shipwreck and disaster. 1099 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 5: I mean short term, this, I guess is good with CJ. 1100 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 5: Stroud because this team went through two seasons with Davis Mills. 1101 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 5: They've had four head coaches in the last three years. 1102 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 5: Like they needed stability at the head coaching spot and 1103 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 5: at the quarterback position, and they will hopefully get it 1104 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 5: with c J. 1105 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 4: Stroud. 1106 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm totally concerned that they don't have any wide 1107 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 5: receivers for him to throw to the offense. Last year 1108 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 5: was Damian Pierce and just like a bunch. 1109 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 4: Of dead weight on his shoulders. 1110 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 5: So they need to upgrade the passing game and they 1111 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 5: only really got that one main piece for it. 1112 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 4: So how do you do it? 1113 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, Demiico Ryans and I guess the OC 1114 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 5: there needs to figure it out. 1115 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,319 Speaker 1: Demico Ryans too. I'm just saying, like, have you set 1116 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: up your young quarterback for success? It's not? 1117 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 3: Well, No, I think it's like raising the question what 1118 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 3: do you build? How do you build around a quarterback? 1119 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 3: Bobby Slowick brings it that Shanahan system. They have a 1120 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 3: pretty good offensive line, they have a pretty good running game. 1121 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: They're hoping to have a good defense, like that's another 1122 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 3: way to do it. They're looking at it like I 1123 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: think the Patriots are a little like this, and the 1124 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: Titans are right now too. They're zigging while the rest 1125 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 3: of the league is zagging. At wide receiver. I at 1126 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 3: least like the Texans options a lot more than the Titans. 1127 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Tankdell's kind of fun. Nego Collins could be fun. 1128 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 3: John Metchi was a second round pick. He had that 1129 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 3: cancer battle, but it sounds like he's going to play 1130 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 3: this year. Noah Brown was okay, like Robert Woods, You're right, 1131 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 3: is their wide receiver one? He might also be like 1132 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 3: their wide receiver four. I mean they have some names, they. 1133 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 2: Have some names. 1134 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: Somebody needs to emerge. I guess that's the point, because 1135 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: Woods should not be seen as the guy because he's 1136 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: just a guy. 1137 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,919 Speaker 2: Well, we can't kill the Titans. I mean I can't 1138 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 2: kill the Titans. Then make a bunch of excuses for 1139 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 2: the Texans. 1140 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 4: That's fair. 1141 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 2: I refuse to do I'm just you know, I won't 1142 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 2: do it. No more excuses for the Texans. I just 1143 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 2: wanted that to happen. 1144 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 1: The Cults, Connie, the Colts. 1145 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 5: The top of this draft was so bonkers, with the 1146 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 5: Texans taking a quarterback at two, which everyone was thinking 1147 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 5: that they might take a defender, and then trading up 1148 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 5: then to take their defender and Will Anderson, and then 1149 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 5: having the Colts, who were picking four, take Anthony Richardson. 1150 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 5: That was one of the main questions about the draft 1151 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,760 Speaker 5: was where Richardson would fall. And so now he goes 1152 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 5: to Indianapolis, which I was kind of surprised about because 1153 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 5: in so many of the mocks you would have guys 1154 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 5: talking about whether it would be Will Levis or Anthony Richardson, 1155 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 5: because Will Levis is supposed to be more pro. 1156 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 4: Ready, more of a day one guy. 1157 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 5: And now you have Anthony Richardson, where his ceiling is outrageous, 1158 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 5: like he has incredible traits, and you have Shane Stike 1159 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,280 Speaker 5: and there the offensive coordinator who worked with Jalen Hurtz, 1160 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 5: and we saw the development that Jalen Hurts went through, 1161 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 5: So that gives me some optimism about this pairing in 1162 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 5: the future. But were you surprised that they didn't go 1163 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 5: Will Levis here? And is Jim Ursay actually crowdsourcing picks? 1164 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 5: Because I could not believe that Ersay tweeted out Colts fans, 1165 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 5: would you take Will Levis at two if you're on 1166 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 5: the board for the Bolts in four hours from now, 1167 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 5: go Montana and Young for franchise? 1168 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 4: What what is he doing? Somebody needs to take Twitter 1169 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 4: away from him. 1170 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 2: I mean he's he's like, yeah, I kind of enjoy him. 1171 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 2: I think he's like a pure wild card from me 1172 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: the NFL owner perspective, Ballard did say, and there was 1173 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,240 Speaker 2: he he basically someone else came out of the record 1174 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 2: on the inside the building and said Ballard told me 1175 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 2: weeks ago that Anthony Richardson was the guy, and the 1176 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 2: reasoning was that all the quarterbacks for flawed viewed as flawed, 1177 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 2: But then why not then swing for the guy that 1178 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: could be like a massive home run versus Will Levis, 1179 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 2: who will see what he is. But I certainly think 1180 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 2: he'd be the safer pick. But I mean, the Colts 1181 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 2: love these big, powerful players at every position. I think 1182 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson I can see why Ballard fell in love. 1183 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 2: He just got to get it right because he's He's 1184 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 2: swung and missed on like eight quarterbacks one minute. 1185 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: Right. 1186 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 3: They love to run the ball. They have an offensive 1187 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 3: line where they've invested so much money poorly by the way, 1188 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 3: But Quentin Nelson's still there, Braden Smith is still there. 1189 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 3: They're still good. Ryan Kelly's making a lot of money 1190 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 3: at center. I want them to sign some more veterans. 1191 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 3: But they love to run the ball, and I know 1192 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 3: Steichen loves to run the ball, and I think they 1193 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 3: have the players to do it. And so you look 1194 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 3: at Richardson versus Levice that way, and that's a nice 1195 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,240 Speaker 3: baseline to start with everything. 1196 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the what's the general vibe about the Colts 1197 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: offensive line? Is that was that a blip last year 1198 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: where everything went wrong Murphy's law? Or is that a 1199 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: group that's now should be seen as questionable. 1200 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 3: I think they're questionable. 1201 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is. It will be a new 1202 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 2: coaching staff that maybe an improved one. But I typically, 1203 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: like when an offensive line completely breaks down over like 1204 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen, sixteen games, I don't predict them to come 1205 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 2: roaring back seven, six, five. 1206 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 4: I thought two three when it was Michael pivan or 1207 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 4: last week. 1208 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 5: Passing game and the passing concepts that were being installed, and. 1209 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: Dam it was like when when there was like the 1210 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: countdown was at four and Collie is like, you know, 1211 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: I was also thinking. I was like, she's doomed. 1212 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 4: Where is the countdown? Where do you guys see the countdown? 1213 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 3: Oh you're hearing it in your ears? That explains to 1214 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 3: explains a lot. 1215 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 4: Man, I am really I'm playing hurt guys. 1216 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: You're grinder. There's one more division to go, Connie, Yeah, 1217 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: here we go. And you know, also not for nothing 1218 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: that the Sixers beat the Celtics in Game one. 1219 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 5: Without Oh my god, you see James Harden's alpha It 1220 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 5: was so if you want. 1221 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: To use a time out just to dunk on Greg 1222 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: and his favorite team, I would not have an issue 1223 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: with it. Just out there. 1224 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 4: I can't dunk on anyone right now. 1225 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 3: Connie, when when I when we hear the ten seconds 1226 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 3: and if you're watching and you can check out us 1227 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: out on YouTube. You know, for this great action, I'll 1228 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 3: give you a signal. I'll give you. This is the signal. 1229 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 3: I hold my hands up. When we get the ten seconds, 1230 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 3: that's it. Hurt me. I don't like getting hurt. 1231 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: Let's take a break and when you're at back Weird Show. 1232 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. We have one more division. We 1233 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: have to get Colleen to an urgent care, so we're 1234 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna wrap this thing up. Connie, we were stunned to learn, 1235 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: despite us all having the same audio feed, that you 1236 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: have not been hearing a countdown clock at all. Do 1237 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: you want to justin play her the countdown so she 1238 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: just can hear it. Maybe it's just something she's been 1239 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: filtering out. 1240 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 4: I think that's the case. 1241 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 6: Oh I could, but we'd have to wait three minutes 1242 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 6: for it to get to the end of the clock. 1243 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 4: It's okay, I can do it, guys. I'm ready. All right, 1244 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 4: this is the division, and. 1245 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: Greg is going to give you a verbal warning or 1246 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: some type of visual. I also will give you your 1247 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 1: heads up. 1248 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 4: You know, right here. 1249 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 3: He's holding a sign that says, Connie, stop talking. 1250 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 4: This is this is why I love you, guys. This 1251 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 4: is why this works. 1252 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, we're here, we go, we move into 1253 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: the AFC West and yes it is Colleen Wilf kicking 1254 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 1: it up. 1255 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So Kansas City Chiefs quick story. In Kansas City, 1256 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 5: I'm talking to Heidi Gardner, who is on SNL. 1257 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 4: She's a huge Chiefs fan, and. 1258 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 5: They have me interviewing her in front of everyone at 1259 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 5: the draft lover too, and I figure she's got a 1260 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 5: great personality, so I'm going to like throw this out 1261 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 5: to her. And so I was like, why did Kansas 1262 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 5: City have to win the Super Bowl? 1263 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 4: And why did they have to beat the Eagles? And 1264 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 4: it just like did not go as I had planned 1265 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 4: in my mind in my head. 1266 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 5: So I've been really working my way back since that moment. 1267 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 5: But I did really enjoy what Kansas City did here. 1268 00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 5: Felix Enadique Uzama, this was so it was such a 1269 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 5: fun pick next to the Cowboys and the coach drafting 1270 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 5: his son. This was one of the heartwarming moments of 1271 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 5: Round one because Felix is from Kansas City. He grew 1272 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 5: up a Chiefs fan, like he went to their training camps, 1273 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 5: and now he gets to join this team that is 1274 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 5: celebrating a Super Bowl was still celebrating at the draft, 1275 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 5: and it's an obvious need for them too. 1276 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 4: With Frank Clark being cut. He's had nineteen and. 1277 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 5: A half sacks over the past two seasons. I think 1278 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 5: that really helps their pass rush and will that equate 1279 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 5: to another Super Bowl? 1280 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Yang? 1281 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 3: I mix, I feel like you left us on the 1282 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 3: ledge there. What did what happened with Gardner? 1283 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 2: She has a little dig into the awkwardness. 1284 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 4: It was so awkward. It was very awkward. 1285 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 5: It was not as funny as I wanted it to be. 1286 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 5: And I don't know if it was funny at all, 1287 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 5: and I like really wanted a trapdoor to just like 1288 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 5: kind of into but. 1289 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 2: She was despite being on SNL. Does she lack a 1290 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 2: sense of humor in person or No? 1291 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 5: No, she she is great and she is sweet and 1292 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 5: she is funny. But I just don't think I set 1293 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 5: set it up properly because. 1294 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 4: Maybe it was the head cold at. 1295 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 3: The time that you're an Eagles fan too, so that 1296 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 3: that could be. 1297 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: Something I did say. 1298 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I said that I'm an Eagles fan. 1299 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also maybe you were looking for that little 1300 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: sass back and forth with the crowd in the Kansas 1301 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: City folk. They're nice Midwesterners. It's not like a. 1302 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,919 Speaker 4: Philly crowd so nice. Every time I tried to ras them, 1303 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 4: it just like never landed. 1304 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I think Heidi Gardner is a great talent on SNL. 1305 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: My wife has met her too and said she's delightful. Yeah, 1306 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: and I think she's the best actor on SNL. She 1307 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: really watched this, watch her and any of those sketches. 1308 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 1: She's like blowing everyone away in terms of. 1309 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 4: And in shrinking. If you guys have started that, that's 1310 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 4: a great series. 1311 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs, the chief Sounds is gonna be mad, 1312 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Greg say something about the Chiefs. 1313 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Racy Rice is a fun uh second round pick, just 1314 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,439 Speaker 3: because he's a receiver that's going to be catching balls 1315 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 3: from Patrick Mahomes. We heard a lot about Zay Flowers 1316 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 3: maybe going there, that they tried to trade up but 1317 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 3: it was too expensive. He has going to have a 1318 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 3: chance Rice to step in right away because I think 1319 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 3: sky Moore was a little bit of a loss. 1320 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 2: I think you need to douse the roster with the 1321 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 2: waterfall of like barbituates to not make the super Bowl again. 1322 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 2: I think I'd see them winning two or three over 1323 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 2: the next five years. 1324 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 4: That so should I open up a new topic. 1325 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 3: Oh wait, I totally didn't give you your signal. 1326 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 2: No one signaled culling. 1327 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 4: No I know, I heard. 1328 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,439 Speaker 1: One hundred and three catches and twelve hundred and thirty 1329 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: yards and seven touchdowns went out the door with Mikole 1330 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: Hardman and Juju Smith Schuster. So Roshie, Rice Sky Moore, 1331 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: Canarius Tony they gotta, they gotta do it mvs. Wow, 1332 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 1: you just think they're just gonna roll like a dynasty 1333 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 1: is gonna keep rolling. 1334 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 2: Mark, It's the only team that I'd point to right 1335 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 2: now where I just believe that they can have an 1336 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 2: imperfect season. Then you get the most heroic quarterback run 1337 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 2: by Mahomes that I can remember, and they a year ago, 1338 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 2: we're like, oh, can they handle the transition? So yes 1339 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 2: they can, and yes they can thrive, and yes they 1340 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. They'll do it again. 1341 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 4: But also, does anything change the enemy being gone? 1342 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Who whoa whoa whoa Hey, Steph kirk Hey, Steph kurr. 1343 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: We don't have a time out, we're out. 1344 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,840 Speaker 3: What happens now. 1345 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 1: The universe swallows itself. 1346 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 3: We just that's what happens. We don't respect the trink anymore. 1347 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 3: It's disappointing. They're bringing back Dereck McKinnon, by the way, 1348 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 3: that are they. 1349 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And they declined the fifty year option on Clyde Edwards Hlaire. 1350 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: So whatever, all right, let's move on to the Denver Broncos. Hey, 1351 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 1: So listen, in some ways they've they've done well here 1352 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to salvage this Russell Wilson thing. 1353 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Sean Payton entered the building. They spent a bunch of 1354 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: money on the offensive line after he got sacked I 1355 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: think fifty five times last year. It wasn't all the 1356 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 1: offensive lines fault, by the way, but it's worth noting. 1357 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, though, what's going on with their running 1358 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: back situation. This is the worst running back situation in 1359 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the league right now. And I don't know if anyone's close. 1360 01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: They have Sama jp Ryan, okay, but he's never had 1361 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: more than ninety five carries in his life. He's fine, 1362 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: just a guy. Javonte Williams. They're hoping that he plays 1363 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: this year at some point, but he had one of 1364 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: those knee injuries, like the tour multiple ligaments type knee 1365 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: injuries that you just don't know if he's ever going 1366 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: to be able to really come back, or if the 1367 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: next year is a total washout. I just wonder like 1368 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to run the ball a lot to 1369 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: help protect themselves from Russell Wilson, and I don't know 1370 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: if they can the way the roster is set up 1371 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: right now, unless p Ryan is way better than we're anticipating, 1372 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: or at least. 1373 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 3: I am he's solid. He's a solid back in Javontay 1374 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Williams is exciting. 1375 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. They don't even know when 1376 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,280 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams is coming back. 1377 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. This is a team full of like 1378 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,919 Speaker 3: kind of backup choices. Sean Payton was quietly their fourth 1379 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 3: choice at quarter at head coach. They wanted Damiico Ryans, 1380 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 3: they wanted Jim Harbaugh, they wanted Dan Quinn. It's weird. 1381 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 3: It's a weird thing sitting over them. And then I 1382 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 3: look at their roster and like, other than Russell Wilson, 1383 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 3: I think they've set themselves up pretty nicely. They're oh 1384 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 3: deep at wide receiver. I do think Courtland Sutton and 1385 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 3: or or Jerry Judy could still get moved, but they 1386 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,560 Speaker 3: picked up the fifth year option on Judy. 1387 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 2: I think, to your question, Dan, like maybe they feel 1388 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 2: better about DeVante behind the scenes to not make a move, 1389 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 2: Like maybe they have a better track on where his 1390 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 2: recovery is. I mean, if he's healthy. I kind of 1391 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 2: like their backfield because I think p Ryan is a 1392 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 2: classic Sean Payton like pass catching guy that he's always 1393 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 2: had in his career that you can use in a 1394 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 2: certain way. I don't like him as the lead loan back, 1395 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 2: but little I wonder if someone like mark ingram is 1396 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 2: a free agent who has a long history with Sean Payton, 1397 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 2: could wind up there for part of the season if 1398 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 2: you need to get DeVante healthy. 1399 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 5: God, I really hope that Javante is healthy, because when 1400 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,120 Speaker 5: he's healthy, he's so good. 1401 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,439 Speaker 4: His contact balance it's one minute, guys, one minutes left, 1402 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 4: I got it. 1403 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 5: His contact balance is insane, Like he is such an 1404 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 5: exciting player to watch. 1405 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 4: He just bounces off of people. 1406 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 5: And then they also have Tim Patrick coming back, who 1407 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 5: didn't even get a chance to have his big breakout season, 1408 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 5: which I thought he was going to have last year, 1409 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 5: so they have him, which almost feels like an extra 1410 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 5: pick coming into this pass catching room. 1411 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1412 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 5: I think that all of the additions that they are 1413 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 5: spending the big money on the offensive line. That also 1414 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 5: helps out too, protecting Russell Wilson. Like you mentioned off 1415 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,560 Speaker 5: the top there, Dan So, I don't feel as pessimistic 1416 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 5: about the Broncos. 1417 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 3: Second round pick on Marvin Min's too. They're loaded, They're 1418 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,479 Speaker 3: they're very deep. 1419 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 2: They were loaded a year ago. 1420 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: How long is the leash on Wilson? 1421 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 2: Eight games? 1422 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Up? Next is the Las Vegas Raiders with Greg Rosenthal. 1423 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 3: Okay, here's here's a hot take. Jimmy Garoppolo's weapons are 1424 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 3: as good in Las Vegas as they were in San Francisco. 1425 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Let's go through that. 1426 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: What what what? 1427 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 5: What? 1428 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 3: All right? Number one receiver, you got Debo versus DeVante Adams. 1429 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 3: Big win for Devontae Adams. Number two receiver you got 1430 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers versus Ayuk. I'm giving that to Ayuk. Slot 1431 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 3: receiver whoever the forty nine Ers throw out versus Hunter Renfro. 1432 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 3: Given that to Renfro. Tight end you got George Kittle 1433 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 3: and a good backup versus Michael Mayer. I love that. 1434 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 3: Michael Mayer picking Austin Hooper. I'm giving that to San Francisco. 1435 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 3: But with mayor there At least, it's not like as 1436 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 3: big a blow as it would have been. We're split now, 1437 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 3: we're going to running back whoever. They're thrown out in 1438 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 3: San Francisco. It's Josh Jacobs versus against the forty nine ers. 1439 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm giving it to Jacobs. That's a nice group. Now, 1440 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 3: Shanahan is definitely greater than McDaniels. The offensive lines both 1441 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 3: have questions, but it just in terms of weapons around 1442 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Jimmy g He's got some nice, nice weapons. 1443 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you mentioned the coaching situation because my 1444 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 2: biggest issue is, like, wait and see on a Josh 1445 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 2: McDaniels thriving as a play caller outside of New England 1446 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 2: historically that's not happened at all, but be getting through 1447 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 2: a season without controversy surrounding one of his own players. 1448 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,960 Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to get along with his own players 1449 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 2: that well. And also, come on, I like this from 1450 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 2: Graver in the chat here, Christian McCaffrey not better than 1451 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs. 1452 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Okay, that was probably true. They'll give it a slight 1453 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:28,719 Speaker 3: are competitive. These are competitive, but that's not as spicy 1454 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 3: a take. 1455 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,800 Speaker 1: But your your point is also well made solidly made 1456 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Greg that he is not inheriting a much lesser situation. 1457 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: We'll say, I mean, you kind of got a need 1458 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Mayer to hit the ground running a little bit. I 1459 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 1: think in he certainly could. And Jacobs listen, he didn't 1460 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: get his option picked up before last year. Is he 1461 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: gonna be able to have another season like last year 1462 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 1: that felt like a career best season? And then the 1463 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: health of Garoppolo hangs over everything, and they they still 1464 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of depth behind him. So I 1465 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,800 Speaker 1: think they're one of those teams where everything breaks well 1466 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 1: there and they could be a wild card team. But 1467 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: I don't I love the Raiders right now. 1468 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,440 Speaker 3: I don't now they're the Raiders. 1469 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 5: Are just hard to love though, Like I feel like 1470 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,719 Speaker 5: it's hard to trust the Raiders every year. I even 1471 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 5: when their roster looks good, I don't end up loving 1472 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,759 Speaker 5: them because of the way that they end up playing. 1473 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 5: And a lot of that was Derek Carr. But I 1474 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 5: was even surprised during the draft that they didn't take 1475 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 5: Christian Gonzales who was still there, and you know, they 1476 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 5: went with Tyree Wilson, who was still really good. 1477 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they're looking like they're trying to get into 1478 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,520 Speaker 3: scorefest like that. They'll be all offense, and I apologize 1479 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 3: to Christian McCaffrey. I would definitely take them over Josh Jacobson. 1480 01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,320 Speaker 3: That was great, and the offensive line. I'm surprised they 1481 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 3: didn't do anything there all off season. 1482 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 1: Good news, Connie. We have one more, right, the Los 1483 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers with Mark Sessler. 1484 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, the Chargers, I think they absolutely needed to add 1485 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 2: a weapon on offense, and they did it with Quinton Johnson. 1486 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 2: It's one of these guys I just cannot wait to 1487 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 2: see how he fits there. And you know the athletic 1488 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 2: essentially mentioned Daniel Popper does a great job with them. 1489 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 2: Said essentially, at this point, they really just need like 1490 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 2: a blocking tight end, a cornerback, a safety, which they 1491 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 2: you know, they did a nice job last offseason after 1492 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,800 Speaker 2: the drafts showing up some weaknesses. So if they do 1493 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 2: all that again, I think we're back in this world 1494 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 2: where you look at the Chargers on paper and they're 1495 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 2: one of the better rosters league wide. I can't think 1496 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,800 Speaker 2: of another like entity in the NFL like this team 1497 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 2: because you've got essentially premium talent all over the place. 1498 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 2: Check top flight quarterback, check new offensive coordinator after we 1499 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 2: were all complaining about the old one. They've done that, 1500 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 2: and despite all of it, I'm not does anyone here 1501 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,759 Speaker 2: trust them to win fights with the Chiefs, the Bills, 1502 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,800 Speaker 2: the Bengals, or even the Jaguars. Like I don't know 1503 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 2: if this is like a sneaky Super Bowl team or 1504 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 2: just another expedition into nothingness, which it feels like the 1505 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 2: Chargers due to us every year. 1506 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is al Michaels's fault and 1507 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,679 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee's, but like, has any game been memory hold 1508 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: more than the Chargers losing a twenty seven nothing lead 1509 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 1: in a playoff game like that happened, I still can't 1510 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: pull it. And if there's maybe inside that building that's 1511 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of a mental warfare and shrapnel 1512 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: to deal with connected to that loss. But I think 1513 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 1: that's why everyone is Basically this is the first offseason 1514 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,640 Speaker 1: in a couple of years where you don't feel a 1515 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of like excitement from the outside about what the 1516 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Chargers can be. But like Connie, like when you do 1517 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: with the way Mark set that up there, there is 1518 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,280 Speaker 1: plenty of reasons to be juiced about them, But this 1519 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,040 Speaker 1: is a team that blew with twenty seven nothing lead 1520 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. 1521 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 5: It's hard to forget that because it happened still recently too. 1522 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 5: But this could be a team that's also lying in 1523 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,240 Speaker 5: the weeds because it's the Chargers and people doubt them 1524 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 5: so often because of their history. But I found it 1525 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 5: really interesting with their draft that they passed on a 1526 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 5: running back. They didn't take any so at this point, 1527 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 5: I guess that means that Austin Eckler will not be 1528 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 5: traded and they're gonna go forward with him. 1529 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 3: Well, not only that, they answered very directly after the draft, 1530 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 3: did anyone call about Eckler? And they're like, nope, we 1531 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 3: didn't receive this single call. He's gonna be there. Why 1532 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 3: are you laughing, Donnie? 1533 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 1: It was a little worried about you during that answer. 1534 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,600 Speaker 4: You know, I'm really worried about me right now. Just 1535 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 4: landing any type of plane is difficult to say. 1536 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 2: See teams, though, at least Connie. 1537 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 1: Can I say the charge and Chargers fans that might 1538 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 1: be annoyed with surfacing that playoff loss. There's only one 1539 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,640 Speaker 1: way to blow a twenty seven nothing lead in a 1540 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 1: playoff game. It's to have a twenty seven nothing lead 1541 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: in a playoff game, so obviously there's a lot there 1542 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 1: to build on, but you got to get some of 1543 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,599 Speaker 1: that scar tissue out of there and move forward. 1544 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 2: I'd also just say, remember why Mike Williams wasn't in 1545 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 2: that game because they put meaningless starters or starters out 1546 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 2: in a meaningless game the week before. 1547 01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Well, they got the head coach out of there fresh start, 1548 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 1: so oh wait, no, poor brand I was like. 1549 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm much worse than I feel right now. 1550 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 3: He's still there, no two winning seasons. I feel like 1551 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 3: no coach who had back to back winning seasons taking 1552 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 3: over has endured more ridiculous ways to lose in criticism 1553 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 3: than Brandon Staley. I mean, mostly it's his fault. 1554 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy, baby, but you're right, they think they. 1555 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 7: Need to get to the second round of the playoffs 1556 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,519 Speaker 7: for him to have a job. After everything, I mean, 1557 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 7: it's over. There's no tranks now. By the way, the 1558 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 7: Bills signed Poona Ford today, who was one of the 1559 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 7: highest people ranked left on my top one oh one 1560 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 7: free agency. It is now sign a free Agenciason again 1561 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 7: because you don't have to pay the compensatory picks. 1562 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 3: Jerrick McKinnon got signed, so there's some decent players out there. 1563 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 3: As of yesterday, there were sixteen guys still left from 1564 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 3: the top one O one. Now it's fifteen. 1565 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Connie said it all. You fought through it. We're going 1566 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,519 Speaker 1: to give you the final word. 1567 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 5: I just want to say that I did not like 1568 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 5: I was not looking for sympathy. 1569 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 4: I just didn't actually think I was going to be 1570 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:11,160 Speaker 4: like this. 1571 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,280 Speaker 5: I thought that i'd be a little bit better off 1572 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 5: for this show, and then moments before the show started, 1573 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,280 Speaker 5: I realized that this could go sideways. So appreciate you 1574 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 5: guys dealing with me. 1575 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you. It's been fun. Let's hang out 1576 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,280 Speaker 4: again when I am healthy. 1577 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, tell Gandha to come back from his walk. 1578 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with the great Patrick Clayband 1579 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: and we'll hit the NFC in forty eight minutes. Thank 1580 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: you everybody for listening. Until then, you know what you 1581 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 1: got to do. Go to the hospital. Heed the call 1582 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 5: S