Speaker 1: Hey, we get it. Breakups are messy, but there is
Speaker 1: a right way to break up with someone and a
Speaker 1: wrong way. Today, we're going to talk through some of
Speaker 1: the worst reasons and ways to break up with someone
Speaker 1: so you can avoid the mess and drama of these
Speaker 1: terrible ways. They're gonna get increasingly messy. Let's start with
Speaker 1: number five. I broke it with my boyfriend over TikTok trend?
Speaker 1: Was I wrong? Was the TikTok trend? Hey, you should
Speaker 1: go cheat on your girlfriend? Because then yes, but if
Speaker 1: it was just like shaking some booty, then maybe no. Interesting?
Speaker 1: So what what are you predicting is going to be
Speaker 1: a good trend or bad trend? I'm going to be predicted.
Speaker 1: It was like a silly trend. Me too, I'm going
Speaker 1: with silly trend. I mean, there's a new TikTok trend
Speaker 1: every day every day, and can we all be honest.
Speaker 1: They're all silly. They're all silly, I mean, but some
Speaker 1: of them are like one of them could be the
Speaker 1: relationship test one, which let's see a good one. It's
Speaker 1: I mean, if you fail, it's about what No, let's
Speaker 1: get it, do it. Let's read what is the orange
Speaker 1: peel theory. I was scrolling on TikTok when I saw
Speaker 1: a post about the orange peel theory, which, to sum up,
Speaker 1: is when you ask another person to do a small
Speaker 1: task for you, like peeling an orange or asking them
Speaker 1: to tie your shoes for you. Both of these tasks
Speaker 1: that you can do by yourself. The real test is
Speaker 1: how they respond to you. If they respond with you
Speaker 1: can do it yourself, or can't you do that? Or
Speaker 1: I guess, then they are not willing to do small
Speaker 1: tasks for you and will most likely fail to do
Speaker 1: larger tasks for you in the future. That is fucking bullshit, dude.
Speaker 1: Oh however, yes, that is such bs. However, if they
Speaker 1: do it willingly or take the initiative to do it immediately,
Speaker 1: then they pass. In a way, TikTok is braiding an
Speaker 1: army of simps. Why are we? What is what is
Speaker 1: happening here? Like it's the simp army, That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: It's so like, yes, if you don't bend over and
Speaker 1: tie my shoes, that you are a terrible person. Literally,
Speaker 1: like I won't help a friend in need. Hey babe,
Speaker 1: I just just just go dump? Could you? Could you
Speaker 1: just like, help me out a little bit. Like on,
Speaker 1: these socks are getting a little smelly. Could you just
Speaker 1: take this off? Please? Just it's a orange peel. It's
Speaker 1: the orange peel. If you really cared, you would. Hey, Sam,
Speaker 1: we just hung out today.
Speaker 2: Can you drive me three twenty three minutes home?
Speaker 1: Please? Oh? That one cut a little too deep. Produce
Speaker 1: a rally with the big jokes. She's coming on the
Speaker 1: show tomorrow, so oh dear, he's driving her Rome. Oh
Speaker 1: enough jokes at same as expense. Now onto the situation.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend of seven months was sitting on the couch
Speaker 1: when I saw the TikTok video explaining the theory, and
Speaker 1: I decided that I should try it out. Oh no, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be the other way around.
Speaker 1: Up to this point we were happy. But now looking
Speaker 1: back on it, I am not surprised by how he responded. Dude,
Speaker 1: and a TikTok trend is dictating your entire relationship. You
Speaker 1: didn't touch some grass when you fail. I asked him
Speaker 1: to tie my hair up for me, and he looked
Speaker 1: at me and asked me why I couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: which is also so hilarious because they just watched this
Speaker 1: video with his exact thing. Bro, you're failing. At first,
Speaker 1: I thought that maybe he was intimidated by my long hair. However, however,
Speaker 1: he had long hair in the past and knew how
Speaker 1: to tie it up. I asked him again, thinking it
Speaker 1: was just a fluke, but he told me that I
Speaker 1: could do it since I was in the kitchen and
Speaker 1: he needed to relax, saying that he just got off
Speaker 1: of work. I know what y'all are thinking. Let the
Speaker 1: man relax. He just got off y'all, he works from home.
Speaker 1: Anything was the burning gun, the smoking gun, you can
Speaker 1: still just have it. Worked a long day and Nita, relax?
Speaker 1: What is going on here? And even if he was
Speaker 1: truly tired, he had plenty of energy to play games
Speaker 1: or go out to the bar with his friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how dare he not braid my hair? How dare you
Speaker 1: want to play video games over braiding my hair? Regardless,
Speaker 1: I honestly felt regardless. Honestly, I didn't want to break
Speaker 1: up and thought it was a dumb reason to throw
Speaker 1: a relationship away over TikTok. Why are you doing it? Then? No?
Speaker 1: Stop stop. I feel like I'm watching the train coming
Speaker 1: towards op and she's like, I wish i could get
Speaker 1: out of the way of the train, but I'm on
Speaker 1: the tracks. Can't You can't move one step is too much. Well,
Speaker 1: that was until later in the day when I asked
Speaker 1: him if he could toss a towel in the dryer
Speaker 1: so I could be warm when I got out of
Speaker 1: the shower, since I forgot to do it myself. That's
Speaker 1: actually kind of a hack. That is a great hack.
Speaker 1: I love that hack. We have to kind of like
Speaker 1: run naked through the house though, to get the towel, right,
Speaker 1: that's true instituting that in our house? Will you get caught?
Speaker 1: It's up to you now, Just imagining everyone starts flashing
Speaker 1: each other in the house, you could just get back
Speaker 1: to the story. Surprise, surprise. He never did it, And
Speaker 1: it just made me realize how much I do for
Speaker 1: him and his daughter that is not even mine. Damn,
Speaker 1: tell us how you really feel about this on us?
Speaker 1: And I think that I have fed, held and changed
Speaker 1: her more than he has. So Reddit, I ask you,
Speaker 1: am I the a hole? If I go through with it, Air,
Speaker 1: go end the relationship now? Oh man, we're about to
Speaker 1: come up to an edit and then into an update,
Speaker 1: but let's pause skirt and park it right here. Do
Speaker 1: we think that he's the a hole for don't pick
Speaker 1: her boyfriend over not tying her hair and warm hole?
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to get it out before
Speaker 1: I start laughing, But I just fairly missed the right.
Speaker 1: I questioned, if your girlfriend asked you to braid her
Speaker 1: hair and you just came off like twelve hours of recording,
Speaker 1: need to relax, what are you saying normally? I'm I'm
Speaker 1: fine with it. Also, her hair does take a while
Speaker 1: to braid, three hours, John, not three hours the way
Speaker 1: she does is it probably like thirty minutes. I would
Speaker 1: probably be like, can't you do it? I did you
Speaker 1: break up? I would probably I would probably go for it.
Speaker 1: You would do it, I'd probably go for it. Oh
Speaker 1: freaking sim I don't really care. Sae TikTok is freading
Speaker 1: as sim army. Yeah, if I was like if I
Speaker 1: was like to the point where I couldn't keep my
Speaker 1: eyes open and I was like literally dying of tiredness,
Speaker 1: I might be like, baby, I'm so sorry, but I'm
Speaker 1: literally about to pass out and probably fall asleep during it.
Speaker 1: But like, unless I'm like literally about to like, unless
Speaker 1: John is literally about to die, you will braid your hair.
Speaker 1: The sloop don is a real one out here. I
Speaker 1: would love to know what you guys think, let us
Speaker 1: know if it's worth breaking up. I mean what it
Speaker 1: sounds like though, it is like she's just looking for
Speaker 1: real Well, no, it doesn't sound like she's looking for
Speaker 1: each She's like, this is kind of a dumb idea,
Speaker 1: but I guess some Tiktook says and I should do it. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so here's the big thing. She then mentioned that she, oh,
Speaker 1: she's changed and basically cared for his child more than
Speaker 1: he has, which is a infinitely better reason than not
Speaker 1: tying her hair. Or is the real red flag? That
Speaker 1: is the real red flag. The hair tying and the
Speaker 1: you know when was the other one? The hair tying,
Speaker 1: hair tying and warming a towel, Yeah, that was not
Speaker 1: red flags. But the man not caring for his child,
Speaker 1: his own child, that's a major red flag. Why not
Speaker 1: pick that as the reason? You're the the dumb reason?
Speaker 1: My god, but we haven't had it to read. Hello everyone,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to the post. I read what
Speaker 1: you guys are saying loud and clear and completely see
Speaker 1: where you guys are coming from. I admit that I
Speaker 1: should not have taken advice from a TikTok, and it
Speaker 1: showed immaturity to do so. How old is OPI? We
Speaker 1: do not know. We don't know. Sounds like Opie is
Speaker 1: like sixteen, taken care of her her boyfriend's child. Yeah, mom, okay,
Speaker 1: still young, Still still pretty young. However, I disagree on
Speaker 1: the fact that what happened wasn't a big deal. Oh no, Opie,
Speaker 1: Oh come on now, the method worked and made me
Speaker 1: see that I do a lot more for him than
Speaker 1: he does for me. Okay that this is true, which
Speaker 1: is probably true. Yes, not the two tiny tasks, but
Speaker 1: the bigger thing. Yeah, okay, it's maybe. Maybe it's legit
Speaker 1: like it does show if it's emblematic of the larger issue.
Speaker 1: Could be because like you never answered, would you would
Speaker 1: I break up? Or what would you?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: You know, put your even just do like a ponytail
Speaker 1: or like a little little bun. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: if they said I I think I've I've done that
Speaker 1: for girlfriends in the past, where it's like, hey, can
Speaker 1: you help me put my hair in a bun? Or
Speaker 1: can you help me zip up the stress or like
Speaker 1: it seems like they get off to it, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like like anything. I almost missed that one. Now our
Speaker 1: relationship is not going to end because of my towel
Speaker 1: not being warm or my hair not being up, but
Speaker 1: because I realized that I am just settling for a
Speaker 1: lazy man who doesn't take me out, doesn't help with
Speaker 1: his baby, and has no motivations in life except to
Speaker 1: live at his parents' house, play video games and drink.
Speaker 1: Now we see, I just heard like seven nails in
Speaker 1: the coffin. The man is under the dirt six feet
Speaker 1: and is not coming back. Is this orange peel working, dude?
Speaker 1: Me honestly not like maybe the orange peel that it does.
Speaker 1: Or have you orange peeled that your significant other try
Speaker 1: it and get back to us? Yeah? Us. Ask your
Speaker 1: significant other to braid your hair and see what they do,
Speaker 1: and if they don't, sit the road, let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: All of this while taking advantage of what I do
Speaker 1: for him. In my mind, since we are so new
Speaker 1: seven months into the relationship, these problems are foreshadowing what's
Speaker 1: to come, and I see no future with him or
Speaker 1: his baby again. Thank you everyone who took the time
Speaker 1: to read this. We have a juicy update coming up.
Speaker 1: But the question is should we leave the relationship at
Speaker 1: this point? Now we know would at this point, I mean,
Speaker 1: we have so much more context now, yes, and we
Speaker 1: have the actual reasons someone should break up with someone, yes,
Speaker 1: instead of the TikTok reasons. So from what we know now, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if he's not taking care of his kid,
Speaker 1: then like red flag right exactly, if he is not
Speaker 1: like moving out of his parents' basement and has no
Speaker 1: plans for the future, red flag. Especially if he as
Speaker 1: a kid, he's a provide for like not only his kid,
Speaker 1: but like a future family if you guys keep dating
Speaker 1: and want to have kids. So yeah, major red flags.
Speaker 1: I would dump them, I say the same dump him.
Speaker 1: I would. I already dump them. He's dumped it, he's
Speaker 1: gone to the curve. Yeah, but we have a major
Speaker 1: t alerts with this next two sea Hello again read it. HI,
Speaker 1: fast update for you guys. First, I would like to
Speaker 1: thank everyone with how brutally honest the comments were. Again
Speaker 1: I guess, and no I am not twelve, I am
Speaker 1: twenty two. That's what I was wondering. Maybe I was
Speaker 1: a little bit too generous with saying that she was sixty.
Speaker 1: I was going easy on you. I would also like
Speaker 1: to clear up some things. First off, I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to make it seem like I was testing him like
Speaker 1: a crazy girlfriend who sets her boyfriend up for failure.
Speaker 1: I simply use the theory to see what he would
Speaker 1: do out of curiosity and came to the realization that
Speaker 1: I was giving ninety percent while he was only giving
Speaker 1: thirty percent into the relationship. The theory helped me take
Speaker 1: off my rose tinted glasses and truly see just how
Speaker 1: much I am doing without an ounce of appreciation. Sometimes
Speaker 1: TikTok will do that. That is true. Thanks TikTok. Thanks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you really have helped this generation. Oh that's so great,
Speaker 1: right yeah. Thanks. As for the ones saying that they
Speaker 1: would also refuse the small tasks as well, this simply
Speaker 1: does not apply to me. If my partner asked me
Speaker 1: to tie his shoes, I would be down on one
Speaker 1: knee because I feel like it is a simple way
Speaker 1: to show love. How are you feeling, I feel like
Speaker 1: tie my shoes like it feels. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I would do it
Speaker 1: and be like, you're crazy. Why are you asking me
Speaker 1: this crazy? Like it would be fun and silly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was like, consistently tie my shoes consistent. No,
Speaker 1: obviously not get out your knees time. I don't see
Speaker 1: you on your knees. Put my laces through the rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: They're still jumping down the hole. John, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Don't use your hands, use your tongue. I want you
Speaker 3: to practice. This is trading session for later tonight. Groom,
Speaker 3: I'm flying.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, gracious, Riley, where's your beautiful head? Riley,
Speaker 1: give us some head? Come on. Previously, I had never
Speaker 1: asked him to do something that I could do myself,
Speaker 1: since I am relatively independent. This was not the case
Speaker 1: for him, since he uses me for almost everything babysitter
Speaker 1: while he goes out nighttime, nanny, chef, cleaner, washing machine, chauffeur,
Speaker 1: EtCO at whist. As I took time to read the comments,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of reflecting, and I knew I
Speaker 1: had to talk to him and give him a chance
Speaker 1: to work this in balance out. I texted him and
Speaker 1: told him we needed to talk, and he asked me
Speaker 1: for a ride to my house since his mom was out.
Speaker 1: Oh his mom is driving in places. Oh dude, and
Speaker 1: he's over twenty two and has a child. Bro babies
Speaker 1: raising babies for real. I picked him up, but to
Speaker 1: my surprise, he had his baby. So I asked him
Speaker 1: if we could stay in his driveway and talk. He
Speaker 1: told me that he was hoping that we could talk
Speaker 1: on the way. When I asked him on the way
Speaker 1: to what he told me that his buddy wanted to
Speaker 1: meet up for drinks. And I just lost it and
Speaker 1: told him to get out of my car. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: He's an uber and and they were going to talk
Speaker 1: about their relationship. He's like, Oh, I'm like, Greg's going
Speaker 1: to be the but he's just gonna knock back a
Speaker 1: couple of pines we can have for talk. Yeah, yeah, Greg,
Speaker 1: don't worry about Craig. Greg's family. Greg is basically part
Speaker 1: of our relationship. Greg's her third in fact, Babe, I
Speaker 1: have an idea to pitch you. Yeah, yeah, the whole
Speaker 1: reason I brought you here to Paris. I just let
Speaker 1: out everything I was thinking and feeling. He looked very confused,
Speaker 1: but then changed his tune and stated blaming me, saying
Speaker 1: that I waited too long to tell him this, and
Speaker 1: that his daughter is already bonded to me. She's around
Speaker 1: one years old. Now, I'm not sure that is a
Speaker 1: fuck like using your daughter as a way to stay
Speaker 1: in the relationship is a fucked another can't like another
Speaker 1: like Cannon fought like another reason just to break up?
Speaker 1: Dump him right here, right now. I'm not sure. And
Speaker 1: his daughter too, Oh take that baby. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what to do. I went home and my phone was
Speaker 1: filled with method and my phone was filled with methage
Speaker 1: and my phone was filled with method. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what to do. I went home and my phone was
Speaker 1: filled with messages from his mom saying that I needed
Speaker 1: to step up and be a good mom and future wife.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. The thing is I don't want to be either,
Speaker 1: especially not dear dipshit son. Dude, Come on, she's like,
Speaker 1: please please help me. I cannot be his mother for
Speaker 1: another twenty years in this capacity. Oh lastly, I know
Speaker 1: you guys don't like the orange peel theory, but I
Speaker 1: think I dodged a bullet, or the ones who feel
Speaker 1: bad for him, he dodged a bullet. So I guess
Speaker 1: the question here that OPI is kind of implying is
Speaker 1: was Opie wrong to use the orange peel theory in
Speaker 1: the first place. It's almost like snooping in the phone
Speaker 1: with evidence and then finding that they're cheating. I mean,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it was ultimately good for her. I
Speaker 1: want to know what you guys think, like, would use
Speaker 1: the orange peel method or have you or are you
Speaker 1: about to right now confess to your father's for the
Speaker 1: sins that you were about to do? But I don't.
Speaker 1: I think if it can break the reality distortion field
Speaker 1: or the relationship and see how you're actually being treated,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a good thing, but it is done
Speaker 1: out of like maybe a little bit of spite. So
Speaker 1: I would say maybe it's it can be information, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't recommend people use it. I would
Speaker 1: more just like look at the past relationship because the
Speaker 1: thing is the orange in this In this example, the
Speaker 1: orange peel method didn't show us the actual bad actions
Speaker 1: that OPI like, like the like the actual reasons that
Speaker 1: Opie should break up with a partner. It showed us
Speaker 1: the TikTok reasons. The real reasons were everything that happened
Speaker 1: before any of this orange peel stuff happened before, so
Speaker 1: it's like you should actually just look at what's been
Speaker 1: happening in the relationship. Is this guy a deadbeat? Is
Speaker 1: this guy not taking year as his daughter? That is
Speaker 1: the stuff that you should look at, not the orange
Speaker 1: peel stuff, which I'm sure people ham up the orange
Speaker 1: peel part of it as like, you know, to make
Speaker 1: it silly and like people comment and engage on it.
Speaker 1: But I feel like the real thing it's looking at
Speaker 1: is like, oh, does this does this help break through
Speaker 1: your rose tinted glasses to help you understand if the
Speaker 1: person does it. I kind of I agree in the
Speaker 1: sense of like you kind of don't need to do
Speaker 1: it and just like really just deep dive into your relationship.
Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of like a knife, because
Speaker 1: a knife can be used to cook a delicious meal
Speaker 1: or murder or stab somebody. So I feel like it
Speaker 1: could be completely innocent. But Big Protein has an objection.
Speaker 2: Okay, go I think she was wrong because what if
Speaker 2: his love language is it acts of surface. It isn't
Speaker 2: doing the talent in the you know, dryer.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you know, physical touch or all the others,
Speaker 1: you know, the other ones. Yeah, I do you see
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Like, like people don't show love in
Speaker 1: the same ways and all relationships, but often if your
Speaker 1: love languages are not the same one, you should ideally
Speaker 1: talk about it. But sometimes like they can be incompatible too,
Speaker 1: at the very least it should be talked about. So
Speaker 1: like is it Yeah, I mean, like the thirty seventy percent,
Speaker 1: Like I do seventy percent of the work, Like he
Speaker 1: only does thirty percent. That feels maybe too tit for tat.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just it's just the list of all like
Speaker 1: but it's like if you feel that way, then that's
Speaker 1: what matters. Yeah, I mean, like he's staying home drinking
Speaker 1: not you know, she's she's taking care of the kid,
Speaker 1: like all basically all the leadsons the reasons she listed out.
Speaker 1: Like we said at the top of the episode, girl,
Speaker 1: that's reason enough, leave his ace, leave his ass. But
Speaker 1: you know what, we're not going to leave you with
Speaker 1: what an absence of this next story. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: right into it. Let's do it. My boyfriend flirted with
Speaker 1: another woman after being a wingman for a friend. Should
Speaker 1: I leave him? This is okay op where we read
Speaker 1: the craziest stories on Earth. I'm Sam and John should
Speaker 1: o P leave that dastardly boyfriend? Well, here's the question.
Speaker 1: Was the flirting really just trying to warm warmer up,
Speaker 1: you know for the front. It really depends, like would
Speaker 1: you ever wing man me? Absolutely? Yeah, dude, I would
Speaker 1: love to do that. Oh my god, I'm I'm what's
Speaker 1: known as the d dB. What's that the d delivery boy?
Speaker 1: Oh you're delivering that d but I oh yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're helping. Yes, you are like the Amazon. The d
Speaker 1: n P can be swapped, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I you know what I'm gonna go with. Probably
Speaker 1: the a hole is the a hole for leaving the
Speaker 1: so like, you have this much room. As soon as
Speaker 1: you go past that line, you're the ahole. That he
Speaker 1: is the a hole for doing too much flirting. So
Speaker 1: oh he is the girlfriend. Oh he's a girlfriend. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: so the boyfriend flirted with another this much room. I
Speaker 1: think the boyfriend went past That's what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see. So I was truly hoping I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: typing in this subreddit again. But here I am, I
Speaker 1: twenty eight female have been dating my boyfriend twenty nine
Speaker 1: male for almost eight months now. Last night we went
Speaker 1: out to a bar with our mutual friend, twenty seven male,
Speaker 1: who's single and very shy with women. My boyfriend thought
Speaker 1: he could be a wingman for him, which I was
Speaker 1: fine with. Later on that night, while the three of
Speaker 1: us stood at this bar, my boyfriend looked at me
Speaker 1: and our mutual friend and said, watch this, and proceeded
Speaker 1: to approach this beautiful blonde woman standing nearby with her friends.
Speaker 1: He asked her what time it was when the bar closed,
Speaker 1: where she was from, and a few other things I
Speaker 1: couldn't make out. I was so confused at this point.
Speaker 1: After this, my boyfriend turned to our mutual friend and
Speaker 1: explains the questions he asked her that led to her
Speaker 1: opening up and engaging in conversation. He clarified with me
Speaker 1: that it meant nothing and I tried to shrug it off.
Speaker 1: So basically he was just like demonstrating game. He just
Speaker 1: flirting with her. We don't know, but asking her at
Speaker 1: the time the bar closes, it's flirting. Uh, what's the time,
Speaker 1: baby boom? Flirting? What I'm joking? I'm joking, but like
Speaker 1: it's it if with all the other things that he said,
Speaker 1: like it sounds like what do you mean all the
Speaker 1: other things, all the other things that she couldn't make
Speaker 1: out or whatever?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, but we don't. There's no other evidence
Speaker 1: of like wrongdoing. I guess I'm now do you see
Speaker 1: evidence of wrongdoing? I'm reading between the lines, So I
Speaker 1: am inferring on your inferent stuff. That isn't assuming he
Speaker 1: makes an ass out of me and you except I
Speaker 1: like to be a big old ass. Yeah. If that
Speaker 1: is what op did, where he basically completely rised her
Speaker 1: up just to be like, yo, watch it. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna like, yo, watch this. Hey, what's the time? Oh great,
Speaker 1: nice to meet you. There's no reason to be like, yo,
Speaker 1: watch this. If you haven't, yo watch this. He's trying
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, but maybe he's maybe he's like like,
Speaker 1: like the Opie's friend is the main chef or no,
Speaker 1: here we go, Opie's friend is the main comedian. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the opener. Mmm you know, Ohpie's Opie's Opie's
Speaker 1: boyfriends just the opener for it. But if you're an opener,
Speaker 1: you're still comedian, you're still player, you still delivering the goods.
Speaker 1: Let's see see I tried to shrug it off, but
Speaker 1: after a few minutes steing, I got pissed off and
Speaker 1: shut down. He asked me what was wrong, and admittedly
Speaker 1: I got a bit petty and said maybe I should
Speaker 1: hit on a hot guy here in front of you
Speaker 1: and see how you feel. You got upset at that
Speaker 1: and shut down. Our mutual friend tried to diffuse the
Speaker 1: situation by saying that my boyfriend didn't mean to hurt me,
Speaker 1: was only trying to help Wingman. I wasn't buying it.
Speaker 1: I feel like the intentions were to help Wingman, but
Speaker 1: when you wingman, you typically tried to defer to the
Speaker 1: person you're wing manning. He just went up, rister up,
Speaker 1: and just walked back. Yeah, it's more just like a demonstration.
Speaker 1: It's a demonstration, right, bro, Let me show you how
Speaker 1: to really make out with a lady. I'm sorry, Wingman.
Speaker 1: So my boyfriend soon ordered an uber and we rode home.
Speaker 1: Our mutual friend went in a separate way, so it
Speaker 1: was just me and my boyfriend. He got me a
Speaker 1: water out of the fridge, but I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: After a few minutes, I was laying on the couch
Speaker 1: and he says, good night and heads to his bedroom.
Speaker 1: I blurt out, are you going to apologize? He gets
Speaker 1: all defensive, and so do I. We argue. He claims
Speaker 1: that because he said he was going to wingman and
Speaker 1: because he said watch this, that that made it okay.
Speaker 1: I told him that if the roles were reversed, it
Speaker 1: would be mad at me. Maybe it's not cheesing. I
Speaker 1: said watch this, I said, you a link to the video.
Speaker 1: He's giving a four warnings. Yeah, I give you a
Speaker 1: heads up, babe, Heads up, bro, if I say watch
Speaker 1: this all cheating, negated, Do you want to punish me
Speaker 1: for my honesty and transparency? Baby? Yeah? Yeah? Wow. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're rewarding bad behavior at this point, babe,
Speaker 1: but hey, you do you. Eventually he cuts me off
Speaker 1: and says that we should continue in the morning. I'm
Speaker 1: full on crying at this point, but he still goes
Speaker 1: to his bedroom, leaving me to cry myself to sleep. Yikes.
Speaker 1: The next morning, he's doing nice things for me, but
Speaker 1: no apology. I texted him earlier today asking for a break,
Speaker 1: and he respected that. But when we talked on the
Speaker 1: phone an hour ago, he claimed that we both overreacted
Speaker 1: and a few other things I didn't agree with where
Speaker 1: do we go from here? I don't trust him anymore.
Speaker 1: The man he was last night is not the one
Speaker 1: I fell in love with. And there is a juicy, juicy,
Speaker 1: juicy update. But I have a question to pose for
Speaker 1: you guys listening and watching and for John. Do you
Speaker 1: think a break was the respect that should have happened? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think a break is probably too far
Speaker 1: of a response. But also to the boyfriend, like, I
Speaker 1: have been in a situation where a woman was flirting
Speaker 1: with me directly in front of my girlfriend and I
Speaker 1: truly did not realize it. I did not realize it,
Speaker 1: and we have a conversation after and as soon as
Speaker 1: she explained it, I was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I wouldn't have engaged if I truly understood.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, why not if she you know, said
Speaker 1: and like instead and like, hey, I have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Well she's standing right there, she she did. I think
Speaker 1: you've changed anything, though? Would I have changed how I
Speaker 1: interacted that a little bit? Yeah? I would have. I
Speaker 1: think I just would have been a little bit more
Speaker 1: like detached. Actually I have a I'll do an okay
Speaker 1: story time for it at the end, So okay, story
Speaker 1: time at the end. But that's what I'm saying, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. Okay, I would love to know what
Speaker 1: you guys think. Would you break up with their significant
Speaker 1: other if they flirted in this way even though they
Speaker 1: said watched this do the update A few more details
Speaker 1: about our argument over the phone the day after this happened.
Speaker 1: One of the first things I asked him was do
Speaker 1: you realize how e ft up your actions were? His response,
Speaker 1: I hear you. I just disagree. That felt completely disrespectful
Speaker 1: to my feelings. I then told him that I've lost
Speaker 1: trust in him. He then tried to flip it on
Speaker 1: me and said he's lost some trust in me too.
Speaker 1: We argued for nearly two hours over the phone. He
Speaker 1: claimed that I was using my severe anxiety as a
Speaker 1: free license to go off on him. That doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense because We've only had three arguments in eight months,
Speaker 1: and every time I've let my anxiety get the better
Speaker 1: of me and I've asked him insecure questions, I end
Speaker 1: up apologizing later on every time. Also, this is one
Speaker 1: time I've gone off on him. Every other time I
Speaker 1: brought up something that hurt my feelings calmly and logically.
Speaker 1: Later that night, I had texted him saying that we
Speaker 1: should stay broken up for several days, then reconvene broken
Speaker 1: up for several days. What do I mean, just like
Speaker 1: not talking to each other, or like shut it down,
Speaker 1: or like just how you can flirt with anyone you
Speaker 1: want at the bar for three days? Yeah? Right? What
Speaker 1: if she's like her, she's like, okay, great, bit, thanks,
Speaker 1: watch this. That is an interesting place to be. Like,
Speaker 1: whenever you're like taking a break, is it free game?
Speaker 1: You have to define it? Yeah? I think it depends. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're undefined, he agreed. It's been a week now and
Speaker 1: I haven't heard from him. I feel like he should
Speaker 1: be the one to reach out right at this point.
Speaker 1: I doubt he will. Well, and there is another juicy
Speaker 1: update number two. But do you think, op, he should
Speaker 1: reach out. Yeah, if if Obi really feels like she
Speaker 1: wants to end the relationship, which maybe it's a bit
Speaker 1: of an overreaction, but hey, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if she's really like, I don't want to be in
Speaker 1: this relationship anymore, go ahead and end it. If she
Speaker 1: does want to be if she does want to try, yeah,
Speaker 1: I reach out. For sure, I feel that trust actually
Speaker 1: wasn't eroded. And what I mean by that is it
Speaker 1: like he wasn't doing anything behind her back, right, like,
Speaker 1: and I think he legitimately thinks that that was completely okay. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's not like he actually cheated or anything. He was.
Speaker 1: I think he was like trying to literally in front
Speaker 1: of her, Yeah, he is in front of her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he did say watch this, And I think like
Speaker 1: he didn't have any mal intent, you know. I think
Speaker 1: he legitimately thought that, oh, this is a completely fine
Speaker 1: thing to do and didn't realize it. I think if,
Speaker 1: like now, maybe he knows that isn't a fine thing
Speaker 1: to do. But I don't know if the trust was
Speaker 1: eroded necessarily. Yeah, I know what you mean. I think
Speaker 1: that I don't think he was intending to do anything wrong.
Speaker 1: But I also think he could have maybe persuaded himself
Speaker 1: that what he did. We don't know the in between
Speaker 1: the lines things he said, but that he definitely did
Speaker 1: not have tact for sure, like, yeah, not a good
Speaker 1: move to flirt as a wingman with a girl in
Speaker 1: front of your girlfriend or not in front of your girlfriend,
Speaker 1: regardless of whether you say, watch this or not, but
Speaker 1: I do think. I do think he wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: be deceitful. Yeah, and to be clear, uh not fans
Speaker 1: of actively trying to flirt in front of your girl partners,
Speaker 1: although I've heard a couples that are like, oh, flirting
Speaker 1: with other people is fine if they like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these two clearly don't. So this will likely be the
Speaker 1: last update I post. After two weeks of no contact,
Speaker 1: I ended up messaging him because it was getting ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I asked him if he was home yet, because they
Speaker 1: lived together. Oh, I forgot about that. Oh, I think,
Speaker 1: And he said that he would be the next day.
Speaker 1: I asked that he let me know when he can
Speaker 1: come over to bring my stuff and so we could
Speaker 1: talk about everything. Oh so maybe they don't live together. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, maybe they don't live together. I was confused.
Speaker 1: He said he would the next day. He explained he
Speaker 1: had car trouble so he couldn't over, but he could
Speaker 1: the following day. I asked if he at least made
Speaker 1: it home and wasn't stranded on the interstate, and he
Speaker 1: confirmed that he made it home. I was a bit skeptical,
Speaker 1: but I gave him the benefit of the doubt the
Speaker 1: next day, but I see you in the comments if
Speaker 1: you think you know where this is going. I feel
Speaker 1: like I have a suspicion of cheat it, yeah, or
Speaker 1: not cheating, but break but watching this, yeah, watching this.
Speaker 1: The next day, he asked if I was still open
Speaker 1: to talk six thirty seven, once I got off work.
Speaker 1: I said I was. He said that a friend was
Speaker 1: going to be waiting in the car while he was
Speaker 1: at my place, a friend. I was confused by this,
Speaker 1: so I asked if he was borrowing his friend's car.
Speaker 1: He said that they were hanging out, so he brought
Speaker 1: him along. I told him around six thirty that I
Speaker 1: was leaving for work and would be there at seven.
Speaker 1: He stated that his friend couldn't wait that long, so
Speaker 1: he was just going to leave my stuff and drop
Speaker 1: off his friend. I didn't even realize he was at
Speaker 1: my house at six thirty. He sent a picture of
Speaker 1: my stuff out in the open in front of the door.
Speaker 1: This upset me because anyone could have stolen my stuff,
Speaker 1: and I told him that. He said that he was sorry,
Speaker 1: he just had to drop off his friend, but he
Speaker 1: was willing to meet at Starbucks. Halfway between us, this
Speaker 1: seems like it's over. Yeah, this iss. I stated that
Speaker 1: I still had some belongings here and a letter I
Speaker 1: wanted to give him, and I mostly just wanted to
Speaker 1: hear where his head was at. But by his actions
Speaker 1: I could tell he wasn't trying anymore, and I said
Speaker 1: so to him. I said, if he wanted a letter
Speaker 1: to let me know. He just said that he heard
Speaker 1: where I was coming from and that he wished me
Speaker 1: the best. I thought about responding, but deciding against it,
Speaker 1: I ended up burning the letter, per recommendation of a
Speaker 1: few friends. Wow. Thank you to everyone who gave their
Speaker 1: respectful opinions and supports. So what do you think did
Speaker 1: Op make the right decision by taking this break? And
Speaker 1: is the boyfriend and asshole one for flirting in front
Speaker 1: of his girlfriend and two for his reaction post her
Speaker 1: wanting a break. I think the boyfriend is the a hole.
Speaker 1: I also think they both overreacted. I think that and
Speaker 1: and ultimately, like I just I just feel like, what
Speaker 1: do we say all the time on the show? There
Speaker 1: had to have been something before in the relationship that,
Speaker 1: like she said in the story, like oh, this is
Speaker 1: the first time I've had a intense reaction to something
Speaker 1: he's done. But like, but maybe you know, they haven't
Speaker 1: discussed the parameters of this aspect of all their relationship before.
Speaker 1: It's totally possible because I don't think it's a given
Speaker 1: that like, oh, don't like flirt with anyone in this way. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the real thing is what is the definition
Speaker 1: of flirting? Because I think I think generally most people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, I don't want you flirting, But what
Speaker 1: is the definition of flirting? Like where does it just
Speaker 1: have an excited conversation, yeah, exactly, or a conversation conversation? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think I think both of them kind
Speaker 1: of overreacted. I feel like my definition of flirting would
Speaker 1: be like excessive touching. Yeah, pretty much, I would draw
Speaker 1: the line, yeah, pretty much Like obviously hugs and like
Speaker 1: whatever else are fine, but yeah, excessive. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a that's like a clear indicator of learning. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it is kind of a gray it is, and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's because like some people are super touchy, and
Speaker 1: then you could say, oh, like no sexual conversations, but
Speaker 1: then some people just have sexual conversations with everyone. So
Speaker 1: it's just like the line is very weakly. What about
Speaker 1: like lip biting. I guess yeah, I mean if it's itchy,
Speaker 1: but like you know, like like actually, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever legitimately bit my lip to you. But
Speaker 1: it's I feel like I've never bit my lip. Like
Speaker 1: women kind of like.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't know, like the way they do it
Speaker 2: is way better than guys.
Speaker 1: Will do it. Guys are so ugly, it's crazy. Bro
Speaker 1: Damn it's through. Women are so beautiful and men are
Speaker 1: so ugly it's wild. Straight the podcast. But speaking of
Speaker 1: all that, I do have an okay storytime that is
Speaker 1: very directly related. So I was at a like a
Speaker 1: house party thing. There was someone that I had never
Speaker 1: met before that I had interacted with in like a
Speaker 1: very like business setting. Actually I was going to potentially
Speaker 1: do a podcast like deal with these people with this group,
Speaker 1: and then she was asking I was explaining about okop
Speaker 1: and like a big group, and I was referring to
Speaker 1: a sponsor I will not name that helps you with
Speaker 1: your intimate activities that goes on your feet. Oh, and
Speaker 1: so then she started asking all these quests and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm Philip, and I like making jokes or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then she was like, oh, well, like do you
Speaker 1: need those and all this stuff? So I thought I
Speaker 1: was like being funny and cracking jokes, but she kept
Speaker 1: digging into this thing of like, oh well, like do
Speaker 1: you need this or whatever? Maybe we could put one
Speaker 1: on my foot and one on yours and see what happens.
Speaker 1: And then she was like, oh, let's definitely like find
Speaker 1: a time to like connect again together. I thought like
Speaker 1: everything that I thought was jokes. When she said connect again,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like about podcasting stuff because we
Speaker 1: had talked about it previously. And then my girlfriend was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was flirting with you like crazy, and I hated that.
Speaker 1: And then like she I was like, oh, like let
Speaker 1: me like take a step back. And you know, initially
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I wasn't flirting. I was like,
Speaker 1: let me take a step back, walk me through it,
Speaker 1: like from your POV. Yeah, And then after she ran
Speaker 1: it down, I'm like, you are on right. I think
Speaker 1: guys in general are just very oblivious to flirting. I
Speaker 1: just don't think women are interested in me generally, so
Speaker 1: I'm still surprised when like that is actually the case.
Speaker 1: So uh uh, put a I'm interested in John, Please, they're.
Speaker 4: Going to do it more than I feel like John,
Speaker 4: you think that they're all nice to you, not flirting.
Speaker 1: I just have a hard time determining women actually crosses
Speaker 1: over the line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes I have trouble with like are they especially
Speaker 4: being in a relationship, because I feel like women are
Speaker 4: generally way more respectful, way more respectful if they know
Speaker 4: you're in a relationship than guys are.
Speaker 1: That's been my experience, Like my guy friends are like,
Speaker 1: oh they're not married. I don't know, not that not
Speaker 1: that women don't do it, but that guys are like
Speaker 1: way more. Actually, I would love to know from our audience,
Speaker 1: but they think who's more respectful about relationship? Guys are girls?
Speaker 1: Put your answers of the comic let us know. But
Speaker 1: speaking of story, Sam, I think I got one more
Speaker 1: forum hit me