WEBVTT - Change Junkies

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<v Speaker 1>I Suck Good Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared and

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio podcast. Hello everyone, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us on yet another episode of help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck At Dating. My name is Dean Anglert. Sitting right

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<v Speaker 1>next to me is the man, the myth, the legend,

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<v Speaker 1>the legend. I don't know about that. I'm definitely a myth.

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<v Speaker 1>Jared hey Bond and sitting in her apartment in the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful city of Montreal, Quebec, Vanessa Grimaldi, Hello, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you hi? Guys? I love your top today. Thanks. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just sent you four pictures to help me choose

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<v Speaker 1>one to post on Instagram. This is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've ever seen you on face time where

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<v Speaker 1>you've actually looked like you were ready to go out somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, because I just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say that. Vanessa always just you're always like sweats,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just got out of bed. Wait to start

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<v Speaker 1>off the podcast. Closet doors always open. I can like

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<v Speaker 1>see your socks sticking out of your drawers part from

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<v Speaker 1>my bedroom. So I'm like, well, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>roll out of bed and put on some lipstick and

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<v Speaker 1>call it a day. You look great. Thank you. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually put on so it's been like really really crappy

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<v Speaker 1>weather in Montreal. So I found this product that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like a self tanner oil on the face. Somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to say. You look tan,

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<v Speaker 1>you radiant, you're glowing, your hair is straight. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>darken your hair, No, it's probably greasy. Did you white

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<v Speaker 1>in your teeth? I I don't know what You're just

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<v Speaker 1>you're glowing right now, right now. I used to give

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<v Speaker 1>compliments like that too, but now now I'm engaged, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed. It's it's I can't be like Venessa, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you look really good, your radiant, your hair looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>People listening. You're always really good at teer leading me though,

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that once you get engaged or in

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship with someone, you're not allowed to compliment the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite sex quite as much? Yes? I think the level

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<v Speaker 1>of compliments or how you're interacting definitely changes. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>So the message, the message I just sent you before

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<v Speaker 1>recording this podcast, if I had a girlfriend, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that would be inappropriate? We don't need to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the audience. Um, we we have a very special episode

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<v Speaker 1>for the listeners out there. Um, we have Monica Berg

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. Yeah, we have Monica Burg coming on, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is going to tell us all about how

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<v Speaker 1>she became a change junkie and how that can help

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<v Speaker 1>you and your potential significant other in relationships. UM. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep you guys up to date on topical events

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives as well. We're gonna hopefully discuss and

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<v Speaker 1>dissect the conversation from last week a little bit more. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>In regards to Jared and Ashley Kendall and Joe moving together,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can talk about that. I've never personally

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<v Speaker 1>lived with a girlfriend, so we can we can dive

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<v Speaker 1>into that a little bit, UM. And what else? What

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<v Speaker 1>else do we want to talk about? Your sex life?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know my sex life is I I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Dean always asked the sex questions. So here you go, Dean.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually just thinking to day a shower today.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I shower most days. How many times a

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<v Speaker 1>week do you shower? Like five? It's pretty I actually do.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, for the record out there, I started

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<v Speaker 1>using soap again. I think I've talked about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>My hair has been spilling delicious and fruity and fresh

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been using. I told you I stopped using Deodora,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I started using natural deodoran. My armpits were

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<v Speaker 1>so itchy. I think it was a charcoal. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to stop using all natural Deodora and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back on the interesting. That's exactly what people want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about. But no, I was thinking today, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is obviously gonna be way too much information, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about my sex life or lack thereof,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, wow, I haven't man escaped in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Really, Yeah, I think I was like

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<v Speaker 1>preparing to jump in the shower and I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>down and I was like, wow, that is getting messy down.

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<v Speaker 1>This is way too well for my Like personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like it when it's super shaved and click too clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I never do like a straight razor to

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<v Speaker 1>get it all way down, like an electric razor to

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<v Speaker 1>get it nice and trimmed and I'll put together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>never a straight razor down there. But I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking on there today. I was just admiring it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, you never use an electric razor in

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<v Speaker 1>your face and that area as well. Absolutely, Man out there,

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<v Speaker 1>just make sure you have two electric Do you use

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<v Speaker 1>use two razors? I use like a wall electric razor? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has like and I'm gonna say it and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get a lot of heat for this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I use the same razor for my face. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>good god, man, I did too, You do, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I just started doing that the face and one or

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<v Speaker 1>the same type of razor, the exact same one. Why

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<v Speaker 1>any reason you started doing it? Or just out of convenience?

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<v Speaker 1>I was shaving my face. I've never done that down

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<v Speaker 1>there before ever. Thirty one Okay, you're third year selling me.

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<v Speaker 1>In thirty one years of life. Thirty one years of life,

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<v Speaker 1>you never took an electric razor down that. You are

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Biggs from American Pie. You're messing with us right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not messing you must, I swear to God. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why why trim a garden that nobody's visiting? Was my

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<v Speaker 1>attitude before I'm married now, But in the past, before

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<v Speaker 1>I was married, it wasn't it wasn't an issue, but

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<v Speaker 1>that or shaving my face, and I thought, quite sad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Wait what you know what? Why not. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>live a little. I will say the one nice the

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<v Speaker 1>one nice thing from a man's perspective. Again, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get into too much information here. The nice thing about

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<v Speaker 1>trimming it and keeping it put together down there is

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<v Speaker 1>it add some size, at least to the eyes. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes it look bigger, at least to my eyes when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking down. Yeah, there's a there's a significant difference.

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<v Speaker 1>You maybe walk around at their shoulders back a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of your chest puffed out, feeling more confident. Honest,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the truth. I'm gonna go on. Uh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>hiking actually next week. And I was like, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>better trim before I go hiking because it's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>me feel lighter and looser and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I'm not sure how to segue into our

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<v Speaker 1>next topic, but here we go. We have Monica Berg

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<v Speaker 1>who's on the line. But before we get to her, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>how about women's shoes. Oh yeah, So I was just

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<v Speaker 1>at I don't know if you saw on Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>the CIRCUSLI show when I showed up in heels, but

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<v Speaker 1>I knew by dand of the night I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be really uncomfortable. So I brought my rath these

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<v Speaker 1>shoes with me and I don't if you heard about

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<v Speaker 1>it this company, but they make sty list shoes for

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<v Speaker 1>women and girls out of recycled plastic water bottles. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really really comfortable, and their machine washable and they're

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<v Speaker 1>easy to put in your purse. Rathi's has quickly grown

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<v Speaker 1>surprise they have over one thousand nearly perfect reviews. They're

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<v Speaker 1>of shoes. They're the perfect flats for life on the go.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're on the go, like myself, I always

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<v Speaker 1>put a pair of Rothy shoes either in my car

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<v Speaker 1>or in my purse. Rath these are the everyday flats

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<v Speaker 1>and they go. They literally go with everything that you wear,

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<v Speaker 1>from yoga pants to dresses and skirts. I was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>this really cute um romper with uh like like leaves

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<v Speaker 1>on it or whatever, Like, I had a really cute print,

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<v Speaker 1>so it went. It literally went with everything that I wore.

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<v Speaker 1>mind that they're made from recycled water bottles. It's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>plastic water bottles, that's what the shoes are made of.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Rath These has diverted over twenty five million

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<v Speaker 1>need an idea to buy your mom, you can always

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<v Speaker 1>buy her a pair of Rath The's a pair or

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<v Speaker 1>two just by I just actually bought my mom a pair. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>she saw my pair of shoes when I was at

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<v Speaker 1>the Circustillation show and they're like She's like I gotta have.

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<v Speaker 1>She tried mine on and she's like, they're super comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got her pair. Check out all the amazing

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<v Speaker 1>Dean gets the code for women's shoes everything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what else I have the code for newm And

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<v Speaker 1>why I have the code is because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>guys don't need to stick to a weight loss plan

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<v Speaker 1>it can be very very hard, especially when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to handle the obstacles and thoughts that hold

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<v Speaker 1>of weight. I think I've discussed this in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been bulking up a little bit. Uh not because

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<v Speaker 1>Dean start losing weight for good. When I put on

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<v Speaker 1>like ten pounds after Ashley and I got engaged, and

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<v Speaker 1>like we're just eating pizza every day. I really wish

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<v Speaker 1>I described my weight gain just like you did. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been bulking up over the past couple of months, not intentionally,

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<v Speaker 1>just literally. I got up to a hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine pounds. I've never hit two hundred in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've all, you still look good, but I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting a lot of it on my neck area.

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<v Speaker 1>I see myself in pictures and I'm like, you've never

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<v Speaker 1>hit two h pounds. You're six. I've always been around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, I don't know it's bad. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not drinking alcohol anymore. I'm I'm sticking with New Mo.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the last time you had a alcoholic? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago. But like, I'm not drinking

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol anymore. I'm not getting drunk anymore. I should say

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been drunk in like three since Coachella. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>so like three weeks. Hold Monica, Well, we have Monica

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<v Speaker 1>Berg on the line as she has a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>book out. It is called Fear Is Not an Option

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<v Speaker 1>and is available everywhere book are sold. Monica, are you

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, Hi there? How are you? I'm doing well, Monica?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you just hearing our latest conversation? Thank god? Just

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<v Speaker 1>about men's grooming and we don't need to. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we actually should have a dedicated episodes that one day

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<v Speaker 1>all about men's grooming, just grooming in rooming in general. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like shaving my legs and shaving my arm past, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it a necessity, No, but it's a it's an

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<v Speaker 1>expectation that women have to do. Actually, just got that

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<v Speaker 1>laser done so she doesn't have to shave for like

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<v Speaker 1>three months. Apparently I never really realized forever. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to it anyway, Monica. I'm so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to keep you holding. We can talk about this all

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<v Speaker 1>day apparently. But Monica, you you describe yourself as a

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<v Speaker 1>change junkie. Um, and you just wrote a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>book called Fear Is Not an Option? So tell us

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<v Speaker 1>where did that title come from? Why did you write

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<v Speaker 1>this book? And what is fear to you? Well? I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to write this book because I counsel a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different people and two things come up. For all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fear and relationships. So I actually started to write

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<v Speaker 1>my first book, which is called Rethink Love, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the term of a book, it's sixty six thousand, seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred words, because you know, people need a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guidance when it comes relationship that can bring us the

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<v Speaker 1>most joy and then also at some point, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see the biggest source of agne and pain. But that

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<v Speaker 1>book took a really long time, and so I got

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<v Speaker 1>impatient and I wrote Fear, and I finished that nine

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<v Speaker 1>months and I published that one first um. The title

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<v Speaker 1>I came up with because it happened to me one

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<v Speaker 1>night when I was grapp grappling with spear over just

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<v Speaker 1>same sixteen years ago, and my mentor and father in

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<v Speaker 1>law was yelling at me on the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>the phone when he heard me panicking that fear is

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<v Speaker 1>not an option. And when fear is no longer an option,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to look for other options that are

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<v Speaker 1>more viable. So when you remove the thing that scares

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<v Speaker 1>you the most and you don't give it any energy,

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<v Speaker 1>then you need to find a solution, and you tell

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<v Speaker 1>your brains that we need to look for one. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's an obedient servant um. Well that's all in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to challenge yourself to think differently, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's consciousness. Consciousness is everything. So how you perceive life,

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<v Speaker 1>what your perspective is, dictates how your experiences will be.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you get a handle on that and you

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<v Speaker 1>really look, and you're honest with yourself, and you give

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<v Speaker 1>yourself emotional feza, then you can change the course of

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<v Speaker 1>your life and everywhere, whether it's fear or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and and alphabet ties and relationships. Also because people fear rejection.

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<v Speaker 1>If your failure, it just gets in our way and

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<v Speaker 1>it paralyzes us from living the life we all really

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<v Speaker 1>want to. Yeah. One of my favorite quotes of all

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<v Speaker 1>time is actually from Jim Carey. Don't judge me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I actually really enjoy his perspective in life. He has

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<v Speaker 1>a very different way of thinking, but he talks about

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<v Speaker 1>fear and how it's a big player in all of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, and he says that what he actively tries

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<v Speaker 1>to do is he tries to make decisions based out

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<v Speaker 1>of love and not fear. And actually he told a

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<v Speaker 1>story one time about his father which always has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuck with me. He talks about his father could

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<v Speaker 1>have been a great comedian, but he was scared because

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<v Speaker 1>he thought that his dreams were out of hand and unreachable,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he took a safe job. And when Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Carrey is twelve years old, his father got fired from

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<v Speaker 1>that safe job. And that was a very big lesson

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<v Speaker 1>in Jim Carrey's life because he realized that you can

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<v Speaker 1>fail at the things that you don't want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>so you might as well go after the things you love.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a very impactful quote I've always thought about

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<v Speaker 1>in my life because a lot of my life I

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<v Speaker 1>make decisions based out of fear, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>held me back in a lot of different areas, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>both career path, relationship wise, uh, my own personal confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's scary, scary, and that's everybody. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the majority of how the world be right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know it's you rather the pain of discipline,

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<v Speaker 1>which is going after what you want and all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing that it's scary and um sometimes now disappointment or wild,

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<v Speaker 1>you rather the pain of regret because when you meet that,

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<v Speaker 1>your options are not there any longer, but much more painful.

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<v Speaker 1>It is more painful. But there's something about regret that

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<v Speaker 1>you can almost cope with because if you never go

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<v Speaker 1>after the things that you want, you can always have

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<v Speaker 1>that cavea of Well, I never really tried, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I tried, I think I could have done it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a good way of living. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and I think a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>that way because there's a psychological reason why we do that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you come with your excuses early on, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have this armor to protect your ego so that when

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<v Speaker 1>you fail, you're like, oh, you know, it's self sabotages

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<v Speaker 1>its greatest. Like let's say you have a big exam

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<v Speaker 1>or s A T S. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people do this and they go out the night before

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<v Speaker 1>and they get drunk and they have a hangover. So

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<v Speaker 1>the next morning I didn't do well because I was

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<v Speaker 1>out late the night before. We just it's a defense

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<v Speaker 1>mechanism to protect our ego. But again, if you break

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<v Speaker 1>it down and you look at it and you challenge

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<v Speaker 1>your consciousness, then you can really live your authentic lights.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody, everybody can have what they want. They

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<v Speaker 1>just need to get out of their way. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's the hard thing, but it's like the muscle.

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<v Speaker 1>If you practice it and you start with baby steps,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually you can achieve it. Monica, do you know who

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Peterson is. He's a he's a clinical psychologist. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to a lot of his lectures lately

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of this out that you're saying aligns

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<v Speaker 1>with the stuff that he preaches as well. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because it's a lot of stuff that you until

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<v Speaker 1>you like sit down and really think about it, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize everything that's kind of going on, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And so I think it's great that

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing is you're helping people identify that and

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<v Speaker 1>then once obviously the first step is always identifying, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can kind of work on it from there,

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<v Speaker 1>well identifying and then followed by immediate action. So and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the key, right. It can't be something that you

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<v Speaker 1>just think about because then you replaced talk for action.

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<v Speaker 1>Often we talk about our dreams, we talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>we desire, and we feel like we're actually making strikes

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<v Speaker 1>because we've spent much time and energy discussing it. We

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<v Speaker 1>feel like a little bit the sense of reward, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in our mind book, I'm doing I'm working towards that

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<v Speaker 1>you're not actually just talking about it. M Monica asked,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a really powerful story. I think you're really

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<v Speaker 1>open about it. Um. You had developed an eating disorder, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and you came out stronger than ever. And recently this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at an event and a woman spoke about

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<v Speaker 1>blimia and how she was battling that for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years and now she's a solid, strong, independent woman.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a really bright light. And my question, like one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that stuck was how did you How did someone

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<v Speaker 1>get out of that? I think a lot of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners because could resonate with stories of people being stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in a dark hole like I. You know, like this

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<v Speaker 1>past week I was literally crying every day and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't find a way to get out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what did you do? Or for people listening, what

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<v Speaker 1>can they do to get out of that dark hole?

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<v Speaker 1>But I love that question. For me, it was interacted,

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<v Speaker 1>but people can find themselves in any kind of situation

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<v Speaker 1>where you feel hopeless and sad. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really the most isolating that time of my life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of shame about having the disorder

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<v Speaker 1>and also feeling shame about my life just at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>U got me into the disorder and the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I craved the most at that time because I was

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<v Speaker 1>so lonely and um, you know, and that thought it

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<v Speaker 1>consumed you all day long. And it's not really about suit,

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<v Speaker 1>is about control. I wanted to send some control over

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<v Speaker 1>my life because I felt out of control. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted a relationship. I wanted to be loved because

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't love myself enough, right, I mean, a

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<v Speaker 1>person doesn't starve themselves nearly to death if they practice

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<v Speaker 1>self love. So I realized that everything that I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking for and that I was craving and the lack

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<v Speaker 1>that I felt could never come from an external place.

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<v Speaker 1>It couldn't come from a person, a job, a different

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<v Speaker 1>country I would live in, or anything else. That had

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<v Speaker 1>to start within. And I really started to practice that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started to become more spiritual, become more aware

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<v Speaker 1>of nature, of purpose, of meaning and um, starting to

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<v Speaker 1>live my life in that way and connecting to something higher.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I took the most important relationship any of

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<v Speaker 1>us will ever have in life, curiously, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship I have with myself, because you live with

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<v Speaker 1>your body in your skin, if you don't like how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel or what you do when you look in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror, because body, and this is a not just

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<v Speaker 1>physical right, it's every single thing we feel walking in

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<v Speaker 1>our skin. And if you don't like who you are

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<v Speaker 1>at your core, it's like being in a webt bathing

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<v Speaker 1>suit with stand inside stuff too all day long. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like that uncomfortable. So I started to really stop and

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<v Speaker 1>listen and ask myself real questions. I finally gave myself

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<v Speaker 1>the permission to want and to have desire, because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have the shame of wanting. Also, especially women,

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<v Speaker 1>were told at an early age that you should seem

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<v Speaker 1>kind and polite, and there's certain things that women shouldn't do,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, all of that nonsense feedback that we're

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<v Speaker 1>given from society, from family, from environment, from television, and

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<v Speaker 1>we believe it at some point. So I finally said enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say that this is what I want

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<v Speaker 1>and it's okay to want. And when I started to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, I really became a friend to myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>started journaling, I started hearing my desires, and slowly, slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>once I acknowledged them, I was able to start taking

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<v Speaker 1>action towards creating that for myself. Well that's wonderful. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So you and I we talk about practicing self love,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course in order to love someone else, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn how to love yourself. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>advice can you give for people who are in relationships

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<v Speaker 1>and want to have a healthier relationship with their partner. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that too because in my next book, Rethink Love.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a three part book and the first is called me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all about the relationship you have with yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the fundamental step most people miss before the

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<v Speaker 1>enter relationships, which is why often we attract the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of people because we're looking at it from a

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<v Speaker 1>place of you know, maybe it's just attraction, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's financial because if you don't really know yourself, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to attract the person that

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<v Speaker 1>will meet you on that same level basically spiritually speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>The second part of the book is going for me

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<v Speaker 1>to we how do you keep yourself right and not

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<v Speaker 1>lose in the relationship. The last part is we, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how to navigate through success relationships. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>are in a relationship with somebody and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>either hold onto who you are or still discover that

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to make sure that you cultivate time for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to do things that you up and that you're

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about, and then you bring that together to the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and that he does the same. Right that becomes

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<v Speaker 1>when you start to live somebody else's life or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's I feel that what you should be right and

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<v Speaker 1>how that makes them feel. These are all the ways

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<v Speaker 1>that we kind of go down the wrong path. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like when I was in my younger twenties, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think throughout my twenties and relationships, I lost who

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<v Speaker 1>I was. And I remember telling my friends like, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate who I become when I'm in a relationship because

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<v Speaker 1>I just lose a sense of who I am and

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<v Speaker 1>I just fully immerse myself in my partner's life and lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I lose the things that I'm that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about, and then when the relationship would end, I

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<v Speaker 1>would get back into being who I was again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I need to learn, and I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my biggest mistakes and relationships. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to cultivate a healthy relationship with myself

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<v Speaker 1>and with my partner, and for my partner to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the things that I love to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you. So, obviously communication is

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of relationships. Do you think that if

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<v Speaker 1>there are little things about someone that you're romantically intertwined

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<v Speaker 1>with that bother you do you think it's important to

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<v Speaker 1>voice those annoyances or do you? Because I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>point is is if if someone's asking you to change

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<v Speaker 1>a little nuances about yourself to kind of get them

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<v Speaker 1>away from who they are at the court, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a good thing a bad thing? What's your

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<v Speaker 1>what's your take on that? So I love this question

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<v Speaker 1>and I can literally speak about it for hours because

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different levels to this and layers. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing when you get into relationships. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, on one hand, is very healthy to notice

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<v Speaker 1>things that you don't like about somebody because if you're

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<v Speaker 1>under that spell, right we all when the romantic level,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll call it, um, everything is amazing, and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go away at some point those you for

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<v Speaker 1>feelings gued down and then you're stuck with the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But so I like when people can see all of

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<v Speaker 1>the person, right, So it's good and bad. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>one too, do you don't you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people get in relationship to like Okay, I like them,

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<v Speaker 1>but when we're married or when we're together, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to change this. I don't think that's healthy. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the only way this works in terms of wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to change something about your partner is if your ideal

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<v Speaker 1>for them matches their own. So, for instance, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want your girlfriend to be um let's say Marilyn Monroe,

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<v Speaker 1>but her ideal for herself as joan of art, there's

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<v Speaker 1>manybe be a conflict there. It's never gonna match up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it's fair either. If that's really

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<v Speaker 1>who she is at her core, and that might threaten you,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, then maybe that's something for you to work

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<v Speaker 1>on in terms of how that makes you feel. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes my point is if a person, let's say it's

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<v Speaker 1>acting selfishly in relationship and you want them to change

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<v Speaker 1>to be more of a sharing person, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a worthwhile conversation because there's growth in that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>relationships can grow and you can grow together as partners,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that is a lofty goal. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>if it goes back to I want her to be

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<v Speaker 1>more feminine in this way, and who's really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's more spirited, you don't want to break that

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<v Speaker 1>because it makes you feel uncomfortable. Do you think it

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<v Speaker 1>almost been? Do you do you think it almost be

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<v Speaker 1>more of the other person's responsibility to fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>with the characteristics that he would be hoping to change initially, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like, instead of changing things about you, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just learn how to love those things about you that

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<v Speaker 1>make you who you are. You know what I mean exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>unless it's hurting them or you or something that they

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<v Speaker 1>also again want to change. Like let's say that you

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<v Speaker 1>are somebody who practiced spirituality and they had no interest

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<v Speaker 1>at all in it. I think those are kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>signs again, how important is that for you to keep

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<v Speaker 1>in your life? Or um, if you love to travel

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't write, so you could talk about why

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<v Speaker 1>and you could encourage them. And I want to explore

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<v Speaker 1>the world with you. I think you would want to

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<v Speaker 1>meet somebody because let's about travel and more about is

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<v Speaker 1>that person flessible? And does that match your style. There's

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that are worthwhile having a conversation. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can ask somebody to change and be excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's other things that depends where you're coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your agenda. It makes me think of that story

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<v Speaker 1>of the Russian cosmonaut who goes up and there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a ticking noise and a spacecraft and he can't find

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.080
<v Speaker 1>the ticking noise, and so rather than go rather than

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<v Speaker 1>going insane, he just learns to fall in love with

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<v Speaker 1>a ticking noise. It's kind of the same thing as

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<v Speaker 1>it app its relationships, where it's like there might be

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<v Speaker 1>things that bother you in small ways, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>learn to love them for those things, then you you

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<v Speaker 1>you figured out you know well. I think it's all

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<v Speaker 1>about compromising as well, not only just with physical things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, compromising what movie we're gonna go see, but

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<v Speaker 1>compromising emotions as well, because there might be things that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't particularly like about your significant other, but that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that you don't love them or can't accept

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<v Speaker 1>who they are for exactly that who they are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to. But it is a hard

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<v Speaker 1>balance and I agree with Dean and obviously Monica, you're

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<v Speaker 1>tapping in on it that it is really hard to navigate. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what are the important things that I need my

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<v Speaker 1>significant significant other to do for me UM that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily um normally do. But again, where is it

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<v Speaker 1>coming from? Are your expectations realistic? And are they there?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they just in the physical? Are they something that

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<v Speaker 1>has more menium purpose attached to it? Because after time,

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<v Speaker 1>looks said fest gettled. I mean all these things, yes

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<v Speaker 1>they're important, and yes you want to catch them. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have have a good test life, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the end all be all. You have to decide

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<v Speaker 1>on your own what are your top three things that

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<v Speaker 1>really matter to that will last decades? Right? And those

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<v Speaker 1>are the things I think are worth talking about and

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<v Speaker 1>making sure that you are aligned and that you have

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<v Speaker 1>that in common, because that is what I mean. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be married twenty two years in August, like that is

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<v Speaker 1>what keeps the relationships successful. And all the other things

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<v Speaker 1>are things that you want to have last your and

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<v Speaker 1>levity and be curious together. You have to at your

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<v Speaker 1>core meet up and and again, the biggest thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually there's a name for this, is called the

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<v Speaker 1>Michelangelo effects. Gets back to the Joan of arc thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Your vision of them has to match their own business

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<v Speaker 1>of themselves, and you keep trying to change somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>match what you want, you can forget about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's yeah. I think that's yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I love You're so insightful, so I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so you said that Michelangelo, what is it

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad? That's bad effect. It's so true because when

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<v Speaker 1>you meet someone you have you're projecting your expectations and

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<v Speaker 1>what you want in a partner, and you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you see maybe one of the one of the qualities

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<v Speaker 1>this person has, so you kind of associate all the

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<v Speaker 1>other qualities that you want your partner to have in

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<v Speaker 1>this person, and when they don't show up and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have those actual qualities, you get disappointed. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a matter of taking time to really get

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<v Speaker 1>to know your partner and giving them the space to

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<v Speaker 1>show for them to show up as their true self

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<v Speaker 1>instead of you projecting all those those expectations. Well, Monica,

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<v Speaker 1>we we really appreciate you taking the time to call

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<v Speaker 1>in today, Um and you just came out with the

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>book Rethink Love correct, Well, that's coming out soon. So

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's that right now hears an option. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back when the next one is out,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope. And yes, when can we expect Rethink Love

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<v Speaker 1>to hit shelves um in the next year. I mean

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>it's done, but you know, there's a process. But I

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.199
<v Speaker 1>do have a blog that's called Rethink Life Today and

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>lots of different articles and relationships than many other things.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, there you go. If you're listening to this

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and you want to learn more about Monica Um, check

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<v Speaker 1>out her blog. Be sure to check out her first

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>book as well. Fears On an Option and Rethink Love

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<v Speaker 1>will be hitting shelves hopefully within the next year, and

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>we can definitely have you back on We would love

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that a little bit more as well. Great,

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me. Thank you, Monica, Monica, Thank you, Monica,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. That was insightful. Fear is not an option.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great when people I mean, no, she

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<v Speaker 1>was super, she was great, She was insightful, and she

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<v Speaker 1>made a lot of sense. I love when people can

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<v Speaker 1>use like logic and reasoning to back their opinions, and see,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, she did that a lot. She did do

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot, because fear is pretty illogical, most of it, anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Some some fear is logical. Fear of heights, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you don't want to fall and die. But fear

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<v Speaker 1>of death is illogical because it's going to happen inevitably beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>it's poetic. Um. While Monica was on the phone, we

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<v Speaker 1>we just had Monica on the line. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>you have this guy just creeping around the podcast studio.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like been begging for it to be a guest

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast for months now, honestly years and honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's funny is we obviously we do listener emails

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<v Speaker 1>as often as we can. We love our listener emails.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like our good friend actually sent us

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<v Speaker 1>a listener email. Um, and I'm gonna read it his

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<v Speaker 1>question maybe he can help us answer it himself. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not from Ben. I know it's not from Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna pretend like it actually is. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that fantasy because the guy's name is Ben. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>we got an email from a man named Ben and

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<v Speaker 1>the title is social Media and Dating and Ben is

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<v Speaker 1>ready to help. Ben just say hi to our our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I was still lurking. I love that I was described

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<v Speaker 1>as Hi Vanessa, Vanessa, I just texted you and says

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<v Speaker 1>it's great to see your face. Um, oh you did. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I still have your phone number.

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<v Speaker 1>But either way, either that or somebody random just got

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<v Speaker 1>a very nice text message from Ben Higgins looking around.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been described as lurking, and as I picture

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<v Speaker 1>myself lurking, I feel like it does fit me. Um. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, thanks for letting me come on. Hey Ben,

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>How's thing tells life? What are you doing in l A.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm here for my podcast. I'm doing an event with

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Delta Um and sometimes I just like to come out here.

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel cooler when I lay in l A.

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I get off the plane, I look at the Hollywood

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Sign and I feel like I've made it, so I

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>just find it. Yeah, you're a freaking star. Blend Um.

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say I was driving back from Colorado yesterday

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and um, I was driving to look in Novada or something,

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>getting a little groggy. You know, it's a long drive,

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen hours, and I turned one of my favorite podcasts,

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>almost famous podcasts, and just listen to this guy talk

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>for forty five minutes. It was one of the best

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>things I could have done for myself at time. And

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>you fell as late I was driving, so thankfully. Then

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a very soothing voice. I can see you

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>doing like audio books. Do you guys remember, um, sorry Vanessa,

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>when Nick read that like audio book for like at

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>one point, do you guys did you ever remember that

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>he like did Yeah, he did a thing with audible

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and he he read. He was like the voice of

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>some books that you could listen to. I have to

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>find these books. What is it called, like pds next

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>a year like two years ago. Yeah, I remember when

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that came out. You could do that stuff, I feel like,

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>or you could do like voiceovers for like like an

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Pixar movie. I'm not a great reader. Oh sometimes, well, hey,

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. So we have a listener email.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to read it. I'll read it to you.

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you're a great listener. Um, that's why you're

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>so great in relationships. So this email is from Ben

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>for Ben and us as well the title of social

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>media and dating, and Ben says, I recently broke up

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<v Speaker 1>with my girlfriend of four years and I've been single

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>ever since for about a year now. I've tried online

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<v Speaker 1>dating and have gone on many dates off the apps,

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<v Speaker 1>but none of them lead anywhere. And this is where

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>our Ben Higgins can come in because he's a social

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>media savant. I can't help but think this is mainly

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>due to my social media usage. I have never been

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a huge Instagram guy and I rarely post anything. But

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa states having met her boyfriend on Instagram, and Ben

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Higgins met his girlfriend through the same uh platform as well.

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 1>So when talking with some of my women friends, they

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>told me that when they match with the guy, the

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>first thing they do is look them up on Instagram.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>And He's wondering. So, so Ben asked, am I missing

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>out on quality matches by not using Instagram? And do

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>think I need to step up my Instagram game? As

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>much as I hate social media in order to start dating.

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Good question, Ben um well. First off, that email was

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>not from me to me, that emails from a fan

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of the podcast named Ben Vanessa. To start here, I

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that you had met your really handsome boyfriend

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>on social media as well. Yeah, he slid into my

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>d m S and I was like, all four it.

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I did the same thing to Jessica. I slid into

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>her d m S and it's working out really great. Um.

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So here's here's the backstord all of this. The week. Uh,

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>there was two weeks before I slid into Jessica's d MS.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I had um found her picture because I was in

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Nashville and her picture is one of the top posts,

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and I screenshot it because I was like, this is creepy,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>feels very lurky. Um, what does that mean? Top posts?

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>So I was staying at the Hilton Downtown in Nashville. Um,

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a hockey team was checking in and I was checking

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 1>in and I was like, I wonder what hockey team

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>this is? And then you saw jess and I saw

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 1>checking out and I was like, hey, this looks nice.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh did you see her in person or you saw

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>her on on Instagram? So I screenshot her profile held

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>onto it, um and then uh, I was in Vegas

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>actually with Jared and Dean and uh we were at

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the I Heeart Fest. And what happened was they told me, Hey,

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>one of the cool things to do today is you

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>message people on Instagram. I think Dean had said that.

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Jared was in on that conversation,

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>not a fashionally sit next to me yet, um And

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked. Honestly, that was a surprise to me

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>because I've always until that moment and in Vanessa, I'm

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 1>really interested to hear what you think here. Until that moment,

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a little creepy, a little weird,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a little forward, and it wasn't exactly, um, the right

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, right, do you So you've never done

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that before? I had no, not before, jess, um and so,

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and I guess never in a romantic way, like never

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>with the pursuit of connecting with somebody. Let me let

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this, Ben, because obviously Jesse's I don't

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>think they of us have met just in person, but

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>we can see on Instagram she's a beautiful girl. Yeah,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think that if she was she of course

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>she is. She's amazing and so are you Do you

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>think that if she didn't curate her Instagram obviously it

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like she was wasn't like a social media blogger.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Influence anything like that. But do you think that if

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have as much of a presence on social

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>media as she did, she still would have caught your

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>eye for you to want a d M R UM.

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's hard to say. Yeah, So then

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the back stories. I I didn't messenged her and I said, hey,

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever message I sent, like if you're into

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>this or not, don you make a good point? Yeah?

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>If if her her profile stood out to me for

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>a few reasons, she's beautiful, Um, that stood out to me.

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So her picture was the first thing her. Her bio

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>actually was a big deal to me. I talked a

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>lot about faith, but not in like a really weird way,

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>not in like a I believe in this kind of way.

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>It was just like I could tell it was an

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 1>authentic like this is my expression and this is who

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I am in my bio. And then she had a

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of pictures with her friends, which was big to me,

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of smiling pictures and there was none

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.879
<v Speaker 1>that looked like she I don't like, was trying too hard,

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>like there was nothing. But but yet she just had

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>like a glow about her that was attractive to me,

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and she was highlighting that. I don't think she meant to, honestly,

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>knowing her now for the last few months, like I know,

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>she definitely didn't mean to bring that out, but I

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 1>saw that and I was attracted to it um and

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it allowed me at least the foundation to want to

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>get to know her. But then there's still a lot

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>to know. So so Ben to answer your question. Been

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to Ben to answer your question, I think there is

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 1>something fair um about being and and right about being

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>as authentic and genuine as possible on your social media page,

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, that is your

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>expression of yourself to the public. I think I think

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>his concern is he maybe doesn't post frequently enough. And

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I know you, I know you have expressed to me

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>how it's challenging because I think before the show, for you,

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and probably for me and Jared as well, we probably

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't post on Instagram very much. I didn't have you

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't have an Instagram exact post picture. I had a

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Facebook that was private. And then a funny story, one

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of my friends was saying that I needed to create

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>an Instagram and I was terrified, because you know, the

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 1>show puts the fear of god in and it's like,

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 1>don't go on social media, blah blah blah. And then

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I saw you Ben with an Instagram and I was like, oh,

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>he's got an Instagram. Fine, Like they're not not gotta

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>come after me, aren't you glad you did? Oh? Yeah,

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>very much? So yeah. Uh you know, I do think

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like social media has always been stressful for me and

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:29.720
<v Speaker 1>not in in the world. And I don't know, Vanessa,

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>if you feel more stressed in this it's it's stressful

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>for me because I don't know how to post enough,

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>like I don't. I do a lot of really great

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 1>things in my life is very full of joy and

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>events and moments and stories. I feel that way, like

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I've never doubted that about myself. But here's my problem.

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Two things. One capturing those moments I'm never good at.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm always about five seconds behind, right, Oh that was

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a really cool thing. Can you re enact it for me?

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>Or Two, I don't want to capture it because I'm

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in the moment. In three, like,

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that many things that then create a picture,

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like golfing with my buddies on a Sunday,

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>really good time, not a great Instagram post. Different for

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>men versus women, Like I think for guys, you can

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>really just post anything you want to post. For women,

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're I feel like there's such a strategy.

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 1>That's when I had so much anxiety this past week.

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend is so encouraging. He's like, we I have

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.520
<v Speaker 1>this camera and I thought I never used and he's like, Okay,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go around the city. We're gonna find like

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>he followed a bunch of like cool Montreal accounts. He's like,

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go around the city. We're gonna take some

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>really cute pictures. I literally sat in the car and

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I cried for an hour. I'm like I can't physically

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>do it because I just feel like it's not authentic,

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Like why am I taking pictures? Why am I posting

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 1>these pictures? And I just I felt like I just

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>needed a little bit of a social media break. So

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>like for the bend that did right into that did

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>right to the podcast. I think there is a level

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>of um, I guess not a necessity to have a

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>social media account, but that's how we connect with people,

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't give my phone a browt like follow

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>me on Instagram and you know, we'll connect through Instagram

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's my that's my way of connecting with people. Um,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>but if you do want to have a social media account,

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>then posted things, like Ben Higgins said, the things that

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>are true to yourself. Because I remember when I was

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>posting a bunch of pictures of me and babies and

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>puppies and I wanted to date this one guy and

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>my friend was like, well, he doesn't want to date

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 1>you because you look like a girl that just wants

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to get married. And I'm like, well, I do want

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to get married, So like thank you for not you know,

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>wanting to talk to me. So that that, by being

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>authentically myself on on social media allowed me to kind

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>of get rid of the people that I shouldn't be

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>dating and attracted people I should be, like my boyfriend

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>who slid into my d M. I do want to

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 1>say though, before we move on, I I think that

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it's far easier for women to post on Instagram for

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 1>the simple fact. See I disagree because like maybe it's

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>because of what has happened after the show for us,

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>but like a great example is Ashley could post literally

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>just a photo in a bikini. Right. She's like, I'm

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>just gonna post this, right, and he gets hundreds of

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>comments being like, you go girl, you look great, blah

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.759
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. If I posted a picture of me just

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 1>standing on a beach in my bathing suit, people are like,

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>what the hell are you posting this? What are you doing?

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You can come up with good captions. I feel like

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>your captions are are what appreciated that hours of stress

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>going to those captures and as I love you, but

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you're dead wrong in this situation because, let to Jared's point,

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you can a girl like look at a Manastan and

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Rebeka Tilly, beautiful, charismatic, incredible women. All they have to

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 1>do is post a picture and a cute off. It's say,

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>thinking about tacos hundred k legs. You know guys can't

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>do that. It's not like it's necessarily fair unfair in anyway.

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a different I'm not saying it's right

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 1>or wrong. No, let me respond person. Pressure of posting

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm That's what I'm trying to convey, the

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>pressure of posting a picture that will I think that's

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>all for all of us, because we do have like

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>this little bit of following on Instagram, and it's like, no, no, no,

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I think if you don't get stressed out when you

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>post a picture. No, I never stressed out about posting

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>a picture, both because if all fails, like I mean,

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going down that much of my life. But no,

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean going down. I just mean in terms

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of criticism and heat more so, like I just people know.

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>People aren't gonna care, like you said, like like a

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 1>great picture of me golfing on a Sunday with my friends.

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like, sure, I'd love to post this, but no

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>one's gonna cares. It's too full here. So you're not

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>wrong and she's not wrong in this world. So you

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>often us remember the environment that we're living in. The

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 1>environment that we're living in is very women followed. And

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>so for being a woman and posting on Instagram, you're

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna get more attention, you're gonna get more criticism, and

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you're also gonna get a lot more praise because that's

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a demographic that's following watching we Unless I'm Dean and you, Jared,

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you look good right now? Thanks, You look good. You

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>can stand on a beach and take a picture and

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>women are going to enjoy it. But at the same time,

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>most of the women following this show aren't interested in

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:59.879
<v Speaker 1>seeing twenty to thirty year old dudes shirtless on a beach.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>You might enjoy it, they might appreciate it, but what

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 1>they really want to follow is are the women like

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 1>what are they wearing, what kind of makeup are they using?

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 1>How can my life be enhanced or what can I

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 1>figure out that's a secret to the world that I'm

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>living in in my everyday life. So so the pressure

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of all of this or or the following to bring

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 1>it back down to the question that was asked is

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>how social media is today at its simplest form, and

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe the best way to use it is now like

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>our family photo album of thirty years ago. And so

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.879
<v Speaker 1>it's expressing the moments in your life that means something,

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 1>that shares something with others, that's the story of what

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you're doing on a daily basis, and it makes it

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>easier for the public to see. So ben my opinion,

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's just my opinion. If you want somebody to

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>truly know you, if you want somebody to share life

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>with you and you don't and you want them to

0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 1>see that from the start, like through your social then

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to share what you're doing in your

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>life so that they can see it, be inspired by it,

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>be excited by it, or be at at the most

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 1>intrigued and curious enough to go I want to know more.

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think for Ben he needs to do

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.919
<v Speaker 1>exactly that, which is just curate his Instagram to whatever

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>he wants it to be right to like whatever he

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>enjoys and likes. Because I'm speaking from a different perspective.

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking from the perspective of a guy coming off

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor with his following the female and having the

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 1>pressure we talked about, right, like not a business yes,

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 1>but also like the people that follow me don't care

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>about me playing sports or don't care about me like

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of things that I like enjoy doing

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>because I like sports, I like, you know, listen to

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, alternative rock, whatever, exactly right, So if I

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>post something with Ashley, it's going to get a lot

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>more interest than me posting something that I'm interested in

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't involve Actually, how sad is that? I feel

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>like we're quantifying everything like our wait, the number of life,

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.319
<v Speaker 1>the number of following two things to say, and everyone

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>needs to shut up for a little bit because I

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't said the thing in a while. Um. Two points

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>to relate to topics that we've talked about for the

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:01.800
<v Speaker 1>past ten minutes. One of them, to Jared's point, I

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>posted a picture when I was rock climbing in New

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Mexico's past week, very cool picture that I thought I

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>was like a hunter, feet up on a rock, hanging

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>from the rock. Posted, the picture gets like pretty low engagement.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>My manager text me and says, hey, the next picture

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>you post better be a gosh darned picture your face,

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>because we need to make sure your engagement is consistent

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>for brands all that kind of stuff. And that stuff

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>sucks because it's like suck. Yes, uh, it sucks because

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I like doing I like showing people what I'm doing,

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>like rock climbing, scheme, whatever it is. That stuff doesn't

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>do well, but that's the stuff that I like to share. UM.

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>So I see Jared's perspective on that. And then back

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to Ben our emailer, I would like to point out

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that to to what Ben Higgins said earlier as well,

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>that now we have this digital family photo album. UM,

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's almost the inverse of what you

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>should be doing on your dating profile, where the Instagram

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>is a good opportunity for you to show you having

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>fun with your friends in your daily life. I don't

0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>think that there should be many solo pictures of you

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>on your Instagram, you know what I mean, We in

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a sense have to do it because we're we're essentially

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>creating the brand first off, whatever it is. But um,

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's important show you have a lot of friends.

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It's what really attracted Ben Higgins to Jess. He said

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that she had a lot of friends and a lot

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of her pictures, and I think that goes a long

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>way to that that you're fun, that you're engaging, your

0:46:16.640 --> 0:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>fun too, and fun to be around. But then on

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the dating profile it should be individual pictures because obviously

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be in the group with all

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. Those are my two points, and

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I wanted to work them in organically into

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the conversation. Ben is a big talks a lot, and

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't able to squeeze it in. So I appreciate

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys being quiet for a little bit and let

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>me get my fill. But everybody listens when Ben's Ben talks,

0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 1>when the Ben's talk. Um, Ben, can you help us please?

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Just just me and you right here right now. Um,

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Jared and Vanessa are just gonna fade away into oblivion

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>for the for the thirty seconds while we set this

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>up anyway. UM, no, you better stay right there. Buster. Um,

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you listened to last week's episode

0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 1>of our podcast. Ben doesn't need to be involved in this.

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 1>That's Ben is the most diplomatic person, and it's not

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>about diplomacy. But I'm has nothing to do with the plug.

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that we should give provider listeners with some

0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>resolution here. I'm not saying we should or shouldn't. I'm

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 1>just saying we probably shouldn't add chiming for one second.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I do agree that you don't need to add anybody

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>else to it. I love you. Know. The truth is

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you already have what it was on a podcast. It

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>was on a podcast. You're absolutely right, but it wasn't

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 1>something obviously I wanted to talk about on the podcast.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>But as you will know, sometimes it's not just about us,

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and whoever thinks that it's literally just about us executing

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>what we want to say and what we don't want

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to say is naive And I'm not saying I said

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.319
<v Speaker 1>it on the podcast, and I should have probably if

0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it bothered me to the point where I didn't want

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to talk about it, I should have had the backbone

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm not talking about it no matter what.

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't, and I'm getting flak for that and

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>paying the consequences for it, and that's fine. Well, can

0:47:55.160 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I say something, yes, okay? Um? I first of all, there,

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 1>for on my end, there's zero hard feelings, zero hard

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>feelings at all. And for people who did hear it,

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to the podcast. Jared and I spoke right after

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. We spoke over the weekend. We've been texting,

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>um and like we're all adult adults here, Like there's

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>no you know, from at least on my end, there's

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>like zero hard feelings. And I want to talk about

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 1>expectations and vulnerable, vulnerability, because it's something that I tried

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>to process throughout the week, and in relationships, whether that's

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a romantic relationship or interpersonal relationships, we have a level

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of expectation and that usually leads to disappointment. And in

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>this case, I was wrong for putting those expectations on you, Jared.

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sorry if my expectations made this situation uncomfortable

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and it made for an awkward situation between you and I,

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>especially on air, and that was the last thing that

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.839
<v Speaker 1>I wanted. But I also want to talk about vulnerability,

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>which we really try to do on this podcast, and

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>ESPEC seen the last episode. It was an extremely raw

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and vulnerable conversation on my end and on Jared's end.

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>And I keep encouraging people to be their true self

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and to show up and to be vulnerable instead of

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>instead of trying to hide their true feelings. Now that

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>being said, it doesn't allow for outsiders to judge, for

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>outsiders to make fun of it, for outsiders to be

0:49:21.160 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>mean and demeaning, And that's the core issue here. People

0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 1>are scared to be judged for being vulnerable, but that's

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>what we're encouraged to do. And yet we did that,

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and like I got heat for it too. I got

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like mean comments about it. Um So,

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the mean people that wrote to me, I hear you.

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I read it. The people that were writing me nice comments,

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I hear you, and I read those things too. But

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the day. Um, if

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>your expectations aren't being met, like, of course there's going

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to be a level of emotion that came out. And

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that was what ended up happening with me and in retrospect, like,

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very emotional person. Um so I was trying

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>to I had my tears, but I just couldn't control it.

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>And I did apologize to Jared for not being able

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to control my emotions. Um to apologize now, I know,

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>but I apologize for again like the level of expectation

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:18.279
<v Speaker 1>and for making it. I didn't want it to be

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 1>awkward between us, and I felt so guilty because I like,

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>that's the last thing I want for someone who's getting

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>married like this is it's supposed to be the most

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>magical day ever and the journey of it, Like, I

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 1>know how stressful it can be. I don't want to

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 1>add stress to that. Um So yeah, and I think

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, this served I hope for our listeners,

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>um an example of what friendships can't be like and

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>not to waste your energy on being mad at someone

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>or resentful towards someone if you're in a similar situation

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know, just try to be understanding and try

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to understand what the other person may be going through.

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I just wanted to say, because I

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>don't want anyone listening thinking that I'm mad at anyone,

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>or that I'm putting the blame on other people, or

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it was all on me, and it was my level

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>of expectation that wasn't met and that's what ended up

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:19.439
<v Speaker 1>showing up. Um, I don't know, you know, no, that's great,

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>thank you for saying that, Vanessa, And of course, like,

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>uh um, yeah, I just uh, it was a you know,

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 1>it was something I should have certainly talked to both

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you and Nick about a long time ago, because no

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 1>one's ever talked to me about it, and it's an

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable conversation and it's just been weighing on me for

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>quite some time, and I've been putting it off because

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what the right answer is and

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm supposed to do. And I've

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>never planned a wedding before, and I've never had this

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>situation where like, there's people that were inviting, but that

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>also means that there are people that are not going

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to be invited, and I'm not saying who's invited and

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>who's not. I don't know what the hell I'm saying anymore,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's just something that hah, there's there's nothing to

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 1>be said. There's just there's nothing to be said. I

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know to um, I'm only digging a hole deeper now.

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I had things to say and now

0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't. You're not so So here's my take as

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a fan of both of yours and Dean um is

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a fan of the podcast and a fan of the

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>two of you. I can't imagine what is like the

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>planet wedding. I just can't. I think actually it's a

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a very relatable topic when when stresses like this

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>come down. Jared, I understand your your frustration, especially that

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff gets here, But there is something

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 1>here that is really um fun, I guess enjoyable for

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:44.359
<v Speaker 1>me between the two of you, and you did something

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:48.239
<v Speaker 1>really brave and courages. You had a conversation in front

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of the masses that a lot of people have to

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>deal with, and you allowed the listeners in um in

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a vulnerable way. And I know it was an ideal

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and I bet it could have been handled a thousand

0:52:57.800 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>different ways with a better path, in a more understanding

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>path forward. But what you did do is you allow

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>people in to hear a conversation that was real. And

0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>here here's the truth of it. All friendships aren't always perfect. Like,

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they have arguments, they have battles, they have expectations that

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 1>aren't meant. Relationships fall on their face oftentimes romantic physical friendships,

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:20.800
<v Speaker 1>whatever that is. We just happened to get a glimpse

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. And it's not pretty. It's not no matter

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>who you are. And now just this sitting here, now

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, we work through it. We're adults. We

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>called each other, we talked to each other, we explained

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the situation, and now we move forward. But here's what's

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>important about this conversation to me, as a fan of

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>both of yours. If this doesn't happen on this podcast,

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm lost Togo. Do they like each other? Are they

0:53:41.000 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 1>mad at each other? Do they hate each other? Is

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>there still weird things happening? But now I know it

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:49.879
<v Speaker 1>is the unfortunate situation to where uh, obviously I guess

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it was a a spontaneous conversation that came up. But

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:55.400
<v Speaker 1>to Ben's point, yet, there's a lot of stuff that

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>happens off air that the audience doesn't necessarily see, and

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 1>even the co host sometimes don't see. Like, you know,

0:54:02.080 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew you guys talked about to what extent I

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.799
<v Speaker 1>was unsure? Um, And so to to Ben's point, I think,

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's good to hear both of your I

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>guess resolution from the the whole I guess conversation we

0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:15.880
<v Speaker 1>had last week. So I don't think I really said anything. No,

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:17.839
<v Speaker 1>you did. Jareduary, good dude, one of the best dudes

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, and I know you care deeply, and I

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>know this really pissed you off, and it should. It's

0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>more so it's just like listen, it's just yeah, I

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know. In Vanessa, You're beautiful, You're great. Thanks for

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with me today. I'm out. Um, I love

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 1>you all. This is a great podcast. You guys are

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 1>just fantastic. By Ben, thank you, thank you for emailing us.

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, no, that was the other Bend. Sorry. Um. Yeah,

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he made some great points. He can verbalize

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 1>things a lot better than I think you can. Yeah. Um,

0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>well okay, so so let's move on. Then. It sounds

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like you guys are in a good spot. It sounds like,

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:54.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, you guys were able to to talk it out,

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the important thing. Like Ben said,

0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>were all adults here. We all love each other. At

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of day. Friendships are weird. Sometime times they

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>don't go, you know, as as they're supposed to, but

0:55:02.920 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>at the end of day, we all love each other.

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 1>It's talking about friendships. It's just sking stupid. We have

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this, but I agree, But we talked

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>about it, and I think the audience needs to know

0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that there has been a resolution on both of your

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>guys the side. No, No, it's fine, it's not. No,

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>there's nobody's fault. You know, it's just it's stupid, and

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to handle it. So it's it's

0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's it's just like I feel like I

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 1>have to Like I don't even know, I didn't even know.

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I don't know. I wish. Yeah,

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.719
<v Speaker 1>think Jared's broken. I'm broken. I'm a broken man. It's

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 1>also it's not just this, obviously, there's other stuff going on. Oh,

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you're super stressed, you're planning a wedding man. It's not

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>just the wedding. There's business things too that it's very

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>stressful right now. And it's just like, I just want

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the wedding to be you know, I don't want it's

0:55:56.600 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, it's expensive and everybody's planning and it's hard,

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, I feel like I can not

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 1>do anything right. Well right. So I remember when my

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 1>sister got married. Um, I remember asking her, like, so,

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 1>how did the coach? Like, I don't even remember it,

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 1>And I remember her telling me the day you get married,

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>just focus on the things that you know are going

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to be the most meaningful parts of your wedding, and

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.360
<v Speaker 1>those all those little nuances that you think are important

0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.800
<v Speaker 1>before the wedding are not gonna matter after you get married.

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 1>And I was like the best piece of advice. And

0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I remember, I mean, I've never gotten married, but friends

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of mine who have I always relate that message back

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to them because I'm like, you want to make sure

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you could be present and in the moment, and kind

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:45.320
<v Speaker 1>of like when someone is pregnant. You know, I imagine

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:48.760
<v Speaker 1>how tough it is to be pregnant, but it's important

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to be in the moment and within those nine months

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to still um, appreciate the fact that you're creating this,

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:02.480
<v Speaker 1>this life and so yeah, it's like you're creating this

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 1>this wedding and you want to make sure that it's

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it's it's going to be beautiful, and I know it's

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be one thank you, thank you. Yeah, we'll

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>put its beautifully put and Jared, at the end of

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:16.479
<v Speaker 1>the day, you'll always be my second favorite co host.

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate a buddy. Um, Okay, well let's move on. So summer, well, summer,

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not really around the corner for me, but springs

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>around the corner and I love, love, love love having

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>little picnics. Um, But one thing that I hate is

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>warm alcohol. I don't think anyone likes warm alcohol, and

0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 1>neither did Dylan who was the founder of Broommate. That's

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 1>why he made it broommates mission to shake up the

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:46.920
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0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.760
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0:57:50.880 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're like me and you love picnics and you're

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be planning a picnic for spring or summer, you

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 1>want to you're gonna want to get Broommate whatever your

0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:01.240
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0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.400
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0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>my drinks get warm before and finished. If you're like me,

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:11.439
<v Speaker 1>you're going to absolutely love Broommate. I love quick story

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 1>when you said warm drinks because when I was bar

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 1>hitting one time years ago down in Arrogance, it my

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.920
<v Speaker 1>friend came and there was a bottle. It was an

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>outside bar, so there's a bottle patron who was sitting

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>in the sun for like five hours, and she's like, oh,

0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to take a shot of patron, not realizing

0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 1>that it was in the sun for like five hours,

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 1>she took the shot. She said it was like burning

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>hot and she almost threw a braide at the bar.

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>It was one of the grains moments of my life. Yeah, okay,

0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 1>so that's why she should have gotten Broommate. I love

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:40.400
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0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:44.400
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0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:57.840
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0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:16.760
<v Speaker 1>slash Vanessa? Okay you guys, Well that'll do it for

0:59:16.800 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating. I

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.440
<v Speaker 1>just want to say to both of Jared and Vanessa

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Ben's gone that I do appreciate both of you being

0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>willing to open up and talk about everything that's going

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 1>on in your life. It doesn't matter what it is,

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:33.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter whether it's good or bad. And I

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>think that's what at the end of the day this

0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:37.680
<v Speaker 1>podcast is great for is we can talk about the

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 1>good things, we can talk about the challenging things, and

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not free of judgment, but we know at the

0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 1>end of the day that you know, this is what

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:45.840
<v Speaker 1>we're here for. Is what we sign up for, us,

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:47.480
<v Speaker 1>what we love, this is why we do it. So

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate both you guys, Easton and Mark and Tory

0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and Amy and everybody. Yes, that's what I was gonna say.

0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate both of you. I am honored to come in

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 1>here every single week with you guys. Um, I need

0:59:58.080 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to get a set up like Vanessa has, maybe in

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 1>just podcast out of my van at some point. But

1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:05.640
<v Speaker 1>well that's a bridge will cross. A little bit needs

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Um. Big thank you to Monica Burg. Of course,

1:00:09.160 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 1>be sure to check her book out Fear Is Not

1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:15.440
<v Speaker 1>An Option, and her new book, uh Rethink Love will

1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>be hitting shelves later this year. Big thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>Shake Shack. Oh my god, I love Shake Shack. Shake

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<v Speaker 1>Shack is the greatest burgers. I used to think that

1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 1>there was another fast food chain with the best cheeseburgers,

1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and I have been proven wrong to say the least

1:00:33.600 --> 1:00:35.280
<v Speaker 1>that which cannot be named. Yeah, I don't even know

1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:36.960
<v Speaker 1>if we can say it, but this shake Shack has

1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the best cheeseburgers. They actually just opened up one in

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island. Oh, I'm sure that place is going to

1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 1>be packed for four years. Is that the only fast

1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:45.960
<v Speaker 1>food restaurant in Olive, Rhode Island? No, but it's the

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:47.919
<v Speaker 1>first time Shake Shack has gone there, and I'm telling

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you shake Shack. Dude has a name, has a following. Um.

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.840
<v Speaker 1>They also love Game of Thrones, and that's why Shakeshack

1:00:53.920 --> 1:00:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is celebrating the last season of Game of Thrones. It

1:00:56.800 --> 1:01:00.360
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're saying game love Thrones. Game the From

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<v Speaker 1>now until May nineteen, all Shakeshack locations, excluding like stadiums,

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:06.160
<v Speaker 1>ball parks, all that kind of stuff, we'll be serving

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<v Speaker 1>the dragon Glass Shake, which is a minted white chocolate

1:01:09.160 --> 1:01:12.680
<v Speaker 1>custard topped with shards of dragon glass. Sounds painful. The

1:01:12.720 --> 1:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>shake is made from custard which is frozen with packed

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:20.120
<v Speaker 1>snow harvested beyond the Wall hands churned by members of

1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the Night's Watch. Vinyl prep occurs in winter Fell, where

1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the shake is topped with shards of that dragon glass,

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<v Speaker 1>as we mentioned earlier, imported from the Caves of dragon Stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Please note that supplies are limited as well, because the

1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Wall is currently undergoing major renovations. This is all nerds

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's just over my head, are you guys? Game thrown?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched an episode. My boyfriend was watching the

1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:44.120
<v Speaker 1>new season last night. I'm like, I need to get

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:46.600
<v Speaker 1>cut up, cut up? How many seasons are there? Nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think here's the thing. Here's the thing. All my

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<v Speaker 1>friends are obsessed with it. None of my friends are nerds.

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<v Speaker 1>I consider myself a nerd as it pertains the video games,

1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:58.440
<v Speaker 1>certain things. We all have our own nerdy aspects, right.

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<v Speaker 1>The most beautiful thing about being a nerd is that

1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.000
<v Speaker 1>there is not mass appeal for it, and the fact

1:02:05.040 --> 1:02:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that everyone is obsessed with Game of Thrones, And then

1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they get on me for not liking it because I'm

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:12.880
<v Speaker 1>normally in like the fairy tale dragon, you know, slayer,

1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. You're the nerd for not liking it. No,

1:02:16.720 --> 1:02:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I just like the But I'm just saying the fact

1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:25.600
<v Speaker 1>that something like this has such massive appeal removes the

1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:27.720
<v Speaker 1>intrigue for me. But I see what you're saying, right,

1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of broadcasting. Yeah, you want to be against

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<v Speaker 1>the green. Yes, I'm I'm a nonconformist. Anyways, I don't

1:02:34.400 --> 1:02:37.680
<v Speaker 1>even know why I'm still talking fisces. Huh. Anyways, that'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it for this week's episode of Help I suck

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<v Speaker 1>at dating as always. I'm Dean, I'm Jared, and I

1:02:45.560 --> 1:02:46.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know why we're doing that, but I kind of

1:02:46.960 --> 1:02:49.360
<v Speaker 1>liked it. Thank you for listening to this week's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to tune in next week. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>really great episode end up for you a special special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna spoil it for you, but what did

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<v Speaker 1>you find out on your own terms? Um, because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll suck a little bit less. Follow hell by suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared on I Heart

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<v Speaker 1>Radio or wherever you listen to podcast h