WEBVTT - Christmas in Connecticut

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, hello Malcolm Glabo Here. Last week my colleague Bendadafh

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<v Speaker 2>Haffrey brought you the story of the contested authorship of

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<v Speaker 2>a Visit from Saint Nicholas, otherwise known as the Twas

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<v Speaker 2>the Night Before Christmas poem. Christmas episodes have become a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a tradition around here, so I thought i'd

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<v Speaker 2>bring you an additional piece of good cheer this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>our epic episode from last year about Arnold Schwarzenegger directing

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<v Speaker 2>a made for TV Christmas movie that goes wildly.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the rails.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're thinking to yourself, what this is what

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<v Speaker 2>you brought me for Christmas? A rerun?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I did.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you keep listening, you'll find that my antipathy

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<v Speaker 2>to Christmas runs very deep. What am I doing right

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<v Speaker 2>now probably sunning myself in Boca and informing my children

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve Days of Christmas is eleven days too many?

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<v Speaker 2>What's Ben doing right now? Asked Norman Rockwell. But first

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this. Christmas is one week away, and how

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<v Speaker 2>am I celebrating with restraint and circumspection. In the Glabew family,

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<v Speaker 2>we do a mid century modern Christmas spare elegant, minimalist

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<v Speaker 2>lots of the baby Jesus in a tasteful Scandinavian leather

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<v Speaker 2>and rosewood manger. No Santa, no reindeer, no elves. Not

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<v Speaker 2>so for my colleague Ben adapfh Halfrey. The Globews impose

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<v Speaker 2>a dollar limit on gifts, like price controls in some

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<v Speaker 2>socialist state that ad half Halfreys spend months thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>what to get one another. The Globows buy a tree

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<v Speaker 2>at the last moment, and would be happier if we

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<v Speaker 2>could just move the whole operation outside around the Douglas Pine.

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<v Speaker 2>In the backyard, Ben's family has a tree, a little

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<v Speaker 2>model village covered in snow, and his father's vintage electric

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<v Speaker 2>train set, plus a little metal tree with ornaments that's

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<v Speaker 2>up year round. So when I told Ben that I

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<v Speaker 2>had never watched It's a Wonderful Life, he was stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he reached out to me as the good smartan

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<v Speaker 2>did to the traveler lying beref by the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the road. How could this be, he asked me gently, because,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can imagine, within the daph Haffreys, It's a

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful Life is a sacred text. Then Ben told me

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<v Speaker 2>another story about what, in his mind is an even

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<v Speaker 2>more important Christmas tale, a story that he regards as

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<v Speaker 2>the apotheosis of all Christmas movies, a story not in

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<v Speaker 2>a film, but of the making of a film. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to revisionist history. I'm Malcolm Gladwell. Today in our show,

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<v Speaker 2>Ben the alf Halfrey relays for the very first time

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<v Speaker 2>in history, the truly screwy story of the of the

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<v Speaker 2>oddest Christmas film of all time. Trust me, you have

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<v Speaker 2>never heard this story before ever, nor have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen the movie in question, unless you're a member of

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<v Speaker 2>the extended dedaf Hafrey Clan or were recently incarcerated in

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<v Speaker 2>a state that limits prisoner's streaming access to obscure television

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<v Speaker 2>movies in the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to what follows, you're going to ask yourself the

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<v Speaker 2>same question I ask myself when Ben first told me

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<v Speaker 2>this story?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I miss this? Unlike Malcolm, I am a

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<v Speaker 1>great lover of Christmas movies. Every year, as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving is over, I'm firing up The Bishop's Wife, Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>on thirty fourth Street, or It's a Wonderful Life. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's my favorite Christmas movie, A little Less Famous

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen forty five romantic comedy Christmas in Connecticut. I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched it pretty much every year since I was little.

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<v Speaker 1>Barbara Stan plays a magazine columnist who's famous for entertaining

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<v Speaker 1>on her grand Connecticut farm. She's known as a great cook.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the end of World War Two and her magazine's

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<v Speaker 1>publisher has an idea for a great feature. Jill hosts

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<v Speaker 1>a returning war hero for Christmas on her farm. There's

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<v Speaker 1>just one problem. It's all a lie. She doesn't live

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<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut. She lives in a tiny apartment in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has no clue how to cook.

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<v Speaker 2>My fun?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, my fun?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my fine?

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<v Speaker 6>And you want to see you right away to arrange it?

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<v Speaker 3>Arrange it?

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<v Speaker 6>Are you crazy? Where am I going to get a farm?

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't even got a window box.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just it. We'll have starl him off, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>to stick your ears with the truth. If he ever

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<v Speaker 6>finds out we've been making all this up, you'll fire

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<v Speaker 6>the both of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Chaos ensues. It's a classic screwball comedy and a total delight.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing I really want to tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode is what happened after I discovered quite

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<v Speaker 1>by accident, that there was a remake of this favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas movie of mine, an action packed, star studed, joke filled,

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<v Speaker 1>really very different version of the original, made for TV

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<v Speaker 1>and directed by none other than Arnold Schwarzenegger. A kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shocking twist if you ask me, I mean, why

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<v Speaker 1>would the Terminator take on Christmas in Connecticut? So I

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<v Speaker 1>did what any good Christmas fiend would do. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to a dozen people about something that happened thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>for way too many hours to get the real story,

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<v Speaker 1>and I discovered in the process what I have come

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<v Speaker 1>to regard as the greatest Christmas tale of all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I've told the story many times, I've never told it

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<v Speaker 3>all the record. It's a big story, So if you've

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<v Speaker 3>got the time, I will tell it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Stan Brooks in the early nineteen nineties. He was

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<v Speaker 1>an independent made for TV movie producer.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm developing movies and a friend of mine goes

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<v Speaker 3>and gets the job at TNC, and I make the

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<v Speaker 3>very first movie for him.

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<v Speaker 1>TNT launched in nineteen eighty eight, at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the cable television revolution. Then as now cable was expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was growing. The whole game was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>raise awareness to get people to sign up, and with

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<v Speaker 1>channels running twenty four to seven, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of space to fill, which led to a boom and

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<v Speaker 1>made for TV movies. Stan's first film on TNT was

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<v Speaker 1>a big success. So he got another bite at the Apple.

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<v Speaker 3>And he calls me, He goes, what do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do next? So they said, like namiears, would you

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<v Speaker 3>ever let me do a remake from the MGM library

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what Ted owned, And he said, yes, just

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<v Speaker 3>pick one.

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas movies always do well, and there was one. Stan

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<v Speaker 1>loved Christmas in Connecticut, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know the Barber Stanlet movie, and so I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this could be a good one. It was right as

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<v Speaker 3>Martha Stewart was exploding. I thought, well, what if this

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<v Speaker 3>is Martha Stewart. What if she's on TV and it

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<v Speaker 3>has an empire and it's all fake? And so they

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<v Speaker 3>loved that take, and so off we went into the races.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a right to work up the script in television.

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<v Speaker 8>It was It was great because you can get your

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<v Speaker 8>stuff made.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Janet Brownew one of the all time great

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<v Speaker 1>bards of TV movies writer on Eloise at the Plaza,

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve Dates of Christmas, Days of Our Lives, and the

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<v Speaker 1>uncredited rewrite of Tim Allens the Santa Claus all brownew

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<v Speaker 1>She loved the original Christmas in Connecticut. I mean it is.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a charming and in fairest to me, the original

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<v Speaker 8>draft was very close.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet wrote the draft of the script for Stan's remake.

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<v Speaker 3>And we turn it in and they go, this is good.

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<v Speaker 3>This is stupid in a Christmas movie. So now I

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<v Speaker 3>have and I'm I have a nice little Christmas programmer

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the middle of nineteen ninety one in Hollywood. Janet

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<v Speaker 1>and Stan's low budget television movie remake isn't really the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing to get people talking, but they're making progress.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the old school movie star Diane Cannon cast

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<v Speaker 1>in the lead as the Martha Stewart character, and an

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<v Speaker 1>offer out to a director. And then one day his

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<v Speaker 1>phone rings. His assistant says, it's a big Hollywood agent

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<v Speaker 1>named Lou Pitt.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I understand, I'm in the television movie business. These

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<v Speaker 3>guys are never calling me, so if they do call me,

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<v Speaker 3>it's never good. And and he he gets on the

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<v Speaker 3>phone and he says, you're a director for your Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut movie. And I said, uh, well almost yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we may have an offer out and he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Well if he doesn't say yes, I want you to

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<v Speaker 3>consider my client. And I go okay and wait to

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<v Speaker 3>hear the name, and I go who, and he goes

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<v Speaker 3>Arnld Schwarzenegger and I burst out laughly.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was totally shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>Lou Pitt, legendary agent Arnald Schwarzenegger.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hilarious. No, seriously, is this a joke?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a joke?

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, no, seriously, and I goes, I'm Schwartzeker's not

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<v Speaker 3>doing a this movie for T and T.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, Arnold had just finished shooting James Cameron's

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<v Speaker 1>epic Terminator two Asta La Vista Baby. Terminator two is

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<v Speaker 1>the one where Arnold Schwarzenegger plays a killer cyborg sent

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<v Speaker 1>from the future to protect young John Conner from a

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<v Speaker 1>different killer cyborg also sent from the future to kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can imagine, such a plot necessitates a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of elaborate production work. He was movie making on a

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<v Speaker 1>scale that was practically unheard of, especially in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 7>The production actually changed the course of a river to

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<v Speaker 7>shoot high speed chases in the extensive plood control channels

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<v Speaker 7>of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, back to Stan and Lou the agent.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, Lou, why on earth were Arnold Schwartz He says, well,

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<v Speaker 3>here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold Schwarzenegger was forty four years old, he had two kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody is an action hero forever. Maybe it was time

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<v Speaker 1>to explore some alternatives.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he it was kind of tired after tea

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<v Speaker 3>two and he said to Blue I would like to

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<v Speaker 3>direct a movie. The directing thing was kind of out

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<v Speaker 3>of the box, at a left field, and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>can we'll put together a big feat direct He goes, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I want low risk. If I do a terrible job,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want anyone to be upset. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>a big budget, and I want it to be family

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<v Speaker 3>friendly because I don't want anything to be controversial nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want something very simple. And the only one

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<v Speaker 3>that fit the bill was Christmas, Connecticut. So I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll I'll call you if this guy passes and I

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<v Speaker 3>have the phone. Of course, my parts jumping out of mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I go what and and I said, yeah, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I read it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'd like it, so get me an offer.

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<v Speaker 1>Stan gets the green light from the executives at TNT.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some negotiating and they offer Schwartzenegger one hundred thousand bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one night stands phone rings.

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<v Speaker 3>I pick it up and I hear Sam brooks, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>please hold for orongs Forcenaker and now serious. I can

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<v Speaker 3>see my heart beating, and he goes, hello. I go, Arnold,

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<v Speaker 3>you're the guy with this Christmas script. I said yes.

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<v Speaker 3>He says it's fantastic. I'd love to direct. I go okay.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, but I have to shoot in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 3>night to do it in these days. And he goes

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<v Speaker 3>a nice some notes of the script. I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>can you be here in an how And I go

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<v Speaker 3>uh no. He goes, can you be on Wednesday? I go, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I could be there on Wednesday. He goes over for

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<v Speaker 3>a meeting at Arnold's offices in Santa Monica. So now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to see me on Wednesday. And you walk

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<v Speaker 3>in and there's this giant lobby and and the first

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<v Speaker 3>thing you see is the exoskeleton, the metal thing with

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<v Speaker 3>the red eyes from terminator. So there's no doubt. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the posters are up on the wall, but there's no

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<v Speaker 3>doubt when you walk in and you see this seven

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<v Speaker 3>foot thing, you go, oh, craft, I know where I am.

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<v Speaker 3>My heart's beating and I go in and he's in

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<v Speaker 3>his office, which is massive. It's like you know, signs

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<v Speaker 3>of a football field, and he's on one. You walk

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<v Speaker 3>in on this end and he's on the other ends.

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<v Speaker 3>You walk past all the you know, the props and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he's at a big, huge desk with a

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<v Speaker 3>big giant chair, and behind him is a bookshelf but

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<v Speaker 3>with all of the Mister Universe awards, not film stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all his bodybuilding awards. And I remember we were

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<v Speaker 3>going through the script and I said, hey, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to use the restroom and he pointed to me by

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<v Speaker 3>putting up this bicep and pointing it like this and

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<v Speaker 3>his biceps cleaning. He goes, this, doc what And I go,

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<v Speaker 3>do was that just to show me your by step?

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, I have to show them, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the guns whenever I can. And I realized, okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>this guy definitely has a sense of heurot.

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<v Speaker 1>By himself they sit down. Arnold has notes on the script.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted more humor and a little more jeopardy, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we added in like this like sort of big

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<v Speaker 3>action sequence at the beginning where he rescues the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, Janet Brownell, who wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>original script for the remake, is looking at a very

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<v Speaker 1>different movie.

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<v Speaker 8>The whole thing took this like one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 8>degree turn.

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<v Speaker 9>At that point, it was just like what is And

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<v Speaker 9>Stan just did not want to lose him, And I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 9>I truly don't see this, but if it gets a.

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<v Speaker 8>Film green light, I don't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold wants them to get someone else to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and punch up the script.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted more humor, and as it happened, my best

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<v Speaker 3>friend in the world had written Commando.

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<v Speaker 1>Commando, the nineteen eighty five action film starring Arnold Schwarzenegger,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the critic from the La Times referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as a quote gory crowd pleaser and a glorified fireworks display.

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<v Speaker 3>And Arnold loved them and said, do you think you

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<v Speaker 3>can get him to do a comedy past.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Low, the friend who wrote Commando, gets hired to

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<v Speaker 1>do the rewrite with his writing partner.

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<v Speaker 3>We walk in.

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<v Speaker 10>He's sitting on a white couch maybe it's literally the

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<v Speaker 10>length of the biggest limousine you've ever seen in your life,

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<v Speaker 10>and he has his feed up on this white porcelain

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<v Speaker 10>marble table. He's gott a big cigar in his mouth

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<v Speaker 10>and scripts all around him, and he doesn't say hello,

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<v Speaker 10>He doesn't introduce himself, he doesn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 11>He just the first thing out of his mouth is, so,

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<v Speaker 11>what of you guys been doing since Commando?

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly not going to the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have to say, everyone in this episode is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do their own Schwarzenegger impression, which is good

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<v Speaker 1>because even though we couldn't land an interview with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's here with us in spirit. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>They settle in and start rewriting the film Commando style.

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<v Speaker 12>So that's where things kind of went off the rails

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<v Speaker 12>for me personally, because it's like, okay, this is becoming

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<v Speaker 12>a completely different thing.

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<v Speaker 8>It just Schwarzenegger eyed into like this thing that was

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<v Speaker 8>bigger than life.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, she just did an amazing job. We didn't

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<v Speaker 6>make any real big structural changes, that's all perms, but

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<v Speaker 6>a dialogue pass and go through it and try to

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<v Speaker 6>find more Bold's vision.

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<v Speaker 1>They start burning through the script. A big job for

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<v Speaker 1>any director is giving notes on the rewrites. Schwarzenegger was

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<v Speaker 1>calling in help from his director friends, including legendary comedy

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<v Speaker 1>director Ivan Reitman, the guy who did Ghostbusters. Everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>working to realize Arnold's vision.

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<v Speaker 11>Now you have to understand that on Commando he would

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<v Speaker 11>do this all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>He would go, I have a great idea.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen, this is what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>When the guy comes at me.

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<v Speaker 10>I want to throw a buzzsaw at him and it

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<v Speaker 10>chops off his arm, and then I'm going to pick

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<v Speaker 10>up his arm and punch me in his face with

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<v Speaker 10>his old arm.

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<v Speaker 13>And we would go, well, we like the bus off art?

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<v Speaker 13>Can we just do the bus off art? So like,

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<v Speaker 13>our job is not to go I think that's not

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<v Speaker 13>gonna work.

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<v Speaker 6>Our job is to make it work.

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<v Speaker 10>And it doesn't help that the next day he would say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 10>we're doing really well.

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<v Speaker 6>We're really getting there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really coming to where I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 6>So I gave it to Steve it and Stephen talked

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<v Speaker 6>to me last night and.

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<v Speaker 7>He says, I have to really be careful that and

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<v Speaker 7>this is what I want you to do.

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<v Speaker 6>And again I'm like, is Steven the guy at the

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<v Speaker 6>Jim is Stephen? Who is Steve It?

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<v Speaker 11>And then suddenly as you go, you know, as he

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<v Speaker 11>starts to sort of talk more, you go, he's talking

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<v Speaker 11>about Steven Spielberg.

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<v Speaker 1>This is beginning to look like a train nobody would

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<v Speaker 1>step in front of. Back at T and T, the

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<v Speaker 1>executives had a dim sense of what was going on.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not has done now.

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<v Speaker 1>Lori Posmantier, one of the TNT executives.

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<v Speaker 8>Whether you're famous or not, as a director, that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 8>To let somebody go and change things as much as

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<v Speaker 8>we're change.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, they've cast the rest of the film. Joining Diane

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<v Speaker 1>Cannon would be Hollywood screwball legend Tony Curtis, probably best

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<v Speaker 1>known for playing opposite Marilyn Monroe in Some Like It Hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Along with him would be ex country music star Chris Christofferson.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's TNT's senior vice president of production at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Lombardo.

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<v Speaker 14>Even when they cast it, I thought, well, that is

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<v Speaker 14>the weirdest cast I ever heard of. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 14>idea that these people fit together made no sense at all.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, Diane Cannon and Chriskustbinson in the same frame.

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<v Speaker 14>It makes the star is born when he's holding Barbara

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<v Speaker 14>Streissad look organic.

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<v Speaker 1>So armed with one of the all time weirdest, most

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<v Speaker 1>stacked casts in the history of film, a comparatively small

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<v Speaker 1>budget of three million dollars, a slot on an upstart

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<v Speaker 1>cable network, and a script based on a nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>screwball comedy that's been punched up by two of the

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<v Speaker 1>writers behind a big eighties blockbuster. An Austrian former bodybuilder,

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<v Speaker 1>fresh off his repeat performance as a time traveling cyborg,

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<v Speaker 1>prepared to direct his first Christmas film.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't as a TV movie producer ever get near

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<v Speaker 3>anything this hot. You just don't.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, we're we're all a little nervous about the

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<v Speaker 15>whole thing, you know, because it's like you're playing with

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<v Speaker 15>matches and you know, oh yeah, that's that Arnold direct this.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 15>It's like, for us three million dollars was a lot

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<v Speaker 15>of money.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, I don't know. Whatever it was like,

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>He wanted to prove that he could be a director.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone was about to find out whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>he could Christmas and Connecticut. The remake began filming about

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<v Speaker 1>two months before Christmas in Los Angeles. Because Arnold Schwartzenegger

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<v Speaker 1>had never before directed a future film, though what the

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<v Speaker 1>record show he had directed an episode of the TV

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<v Speaker 1>show Tales from the Crypt, the production arranged for things

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<v Speaker 1>to film more or less in the order they happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the film. There's a lot less to keep track

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<v Speaker 1>of continuity wise that way, but this also posed a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the anxieties of adapting a great work of

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<v Speaker 1>art is figuring out how to make it your own.

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<v Speaker 1>The nineteen ninety two made for TV remake of Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut does this immediately by introducing its male lead,

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<v Speaker 1>a park ranger named Jefferson Jones, mid workout routine in

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<v Speaker 1>his mountain cabin. If you're looking for signs that this

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<v Speaker 1>is not your grandmother's Christmas in Connecticut, the site of

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Christofferson as Jefferson Jones sweating after busting out some

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<v Speaker 1>chin ups on a beam in his cabin is your

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<v Speaker 1>first warning. A man on the television offers some brisk

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<v Speaker 1>exposition while he cools down.

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<v Speaker 5>In the last hour, experts predict this should have been

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<v Speaker 5>the biggest storm to hit the Rockies in the last decade.

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<v Speaker 6>More than four feet of snow has anticipated to blanket

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<v Speaker 6>the area the next forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone rings. Another ranger is calling to tell Jones

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<v Speaker 1>a kid has gotten lost in the blizzard. He has

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and find him. This is the fabled

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<v Speaker 1>action sequence Schwarzenegger had requested. They shot the blizzard on

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<v Speaker 1>a sound stage. It's the moment Jefferson Jones becomes a hero,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why he gets invited to be a guest

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<v Speaker 1>of Elizabeth Blainez for a Christmas special in Connecticut. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to look epic. It's got to have that Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger feeling. Unfortunately terminator, this is not Here's Jim Wilberger,

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<v Speaker 1>director of production.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, there's a scene where Christofferson, you know, suddenly has

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<v Speaker 15>rescued the kid and you see him roll down this

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<v Speaker 15>little hill of snow which was shot on stage and

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<v Speaker 15>trying to make more of more of it because there

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<v Speaker 15>wasn't that much set for that little hill, and you know,

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<v Speaker 15>and then suddenly you see all the people rush in

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<v Speaker 15>to rescue you know, I mean, this was just not

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<v Speaker 15>good blocking, and that's just an experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger wanted Jeopardy, but this kind of looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>snowball fight gone awry. Jones stumbles over a very small

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<v Speaker 1>hill holding a child that looks like it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a mannequin. He's groaning and yelling, but his lips aren't moving,

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<v Speaker 1>so tough start. Luckily, though, a lot of the film

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<v Speaker 1>is set inside Elizabeth Blaine's fake Connecticut house where she's

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<v Speaker 1>shooting a Christmas special in celebration of Jones. The bulk

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<v Speaker 1>production happened there, so the whole crew set up at

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<v Speaker 1>a house in South Pasadena for the real work. This

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<v Speaker 1>introduced Arnold to the second problem of directing actor ego

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<v Speaker 1>management in the issue of his trailer.

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold's trailer was like a house on wheels.

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<v Speaker 4>It was literally like you'd look at it from the

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<v Speaker 4>outside and you'd say, wow, that's got all kinds of

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<v Speaker 4>popouts and the roof went off and everything. But when

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<v Speaker 4>you got inside, it was literally like you had just

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<v Speaker 4>walked into like the Greystone Mansion.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 15>It's probably almost three times as wide as a normal trailer,

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<v Speaker 15>and that was the length that became the issue. Diane

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<v Speaker 15>comes in and she says, why is Arnold's trailer bigger

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<v Speaker 15>than my trailer? Nobody's supposed to have a bigger trailer

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<v Speaker 15>than me.

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<v Speaker 1>Diane Cannon was the star of the film, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe realizing that this production was all about the director. Schwarzenegger, though,

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<v Speaker 1>was dealing with other problems. Namely, he had chosen one

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<v Speaker 1>of the hardest genres for his first major directing for

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<v Speaker 1>a screwball comedy is like dancing on the head of

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<v Speaker 1>a pin. It thrives on chaos, but it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a kind of controlled chaos. With his big personality cast,

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<v Speaker 1>low budget, short timeline, and hastily rewritten script, Schwarzenegger had

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<v Speaker 1>an excess of chaos and a minimum of control. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you have one somewhat disgruntled actress portraying fake Martha Stewart,

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<v Speaker 1>and another who's a macho park ranger, but who for

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<v Speaker 1>no apparent reason, relays this backstory part way through the movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, before I moved to Colorado, I lived in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>I grew up there, taught comparative literature at the University

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<v Speaker 5>of Container. Really, I got offered tenure and head of

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<v Speaker 5>the department, and it's what I thought I wanted that's

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<v Speaker 5>being caged in by concrete and crowds for the rest

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<v Speaker 5>of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I'm pretty sure the only time in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire film Jefferson jones Is past as chair of the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Chicago's Comparative Literature Department is mentioned. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love Chris Kristofferson, but most of the rest of his

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<v Speaker 1>performance veers between stiff and oddly sexually charged.

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<v Speaker 15>When he starts smearing the pine staff on her neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that it's it's it's just kind of transcendently weird.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, well, not to mention his two times he's like

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<v Speaker 15>staring at her butt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's an extensive shot of that.

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<v Speaker 6>But you can't buy that at Blmingdon.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, You've got two characters who really just barely

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<v Speaker 1>hang together, and then you have to direct them in

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<v Speaker 1>tightly choreographed zany sequences that have got to feel plausible

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<v Speaker 1>yet also hilarious. For instance, the scene with the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember in Christmas in Connecticut, Elizabeth is a total fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't know how to cook. It's not even her

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<v Speaker 1>house in Connecticut, and she's got this fake, staged family

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<v Speaker 1>with her, including a fake baby. She had to keep

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<v Speaker 1>up appearances for the sake of her column. In the

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<v Speaker 1>original film, there's a lovely scene where she and Jefferson

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<v Speaker 1>Jones give her fake baby a bath. She a supposed

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<v Speaker 1>domestic goddess, is meant to bathe her child, which she

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<v Speaker 1>suspiciously has no clue how to do. He steps in

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<v Speaker 1>and does it for her like a total pro. It's

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<v Speaker 1>part of why she falls in love with him, and

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so well executed in the original film, we

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<v Speaker 1>believe they're following in love in this totally implausible moment.

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<v Speaker 6>So there, I'll refer.

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<v Speaker 8>Though she's eating the sil would like do now what her?

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<v Speaker 5>They all do it?

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<v Speaker 16>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Really, you'd make a wonderful father.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Jehan, You're you're not married yourself by any chance,

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<v Speaker 7>are you?

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<v Speaker 6>No cards are stacked against me.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess every time I meet a girl I like,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out she's already married.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. This also happens in the Arnold Schwarzenegger version.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we should finish up for finish up.

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<v Speaker 17>You know what, I just had the most wonderful idea,

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<v Speaker 17>How would you like to bathere?

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<v Speaker 7>Me?

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<v Speaker 6>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be fun for you here What happens

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<v Speaker 1>next is the greatest travesty in the history of bath time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as if you gave two aliens a baby and said,

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<v Speaker 1>give this a bath, not realizing that on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>therefrom not only are there no babies or baths, but

0:25:57.596 --> 0:26:02.796
<v Speaker 1>actually there's not even water. What do you remember about that, Well,

0:26:02.996 --> 0:26:06.316
<v Speaker 1>some of that was improvised. What happens is they just

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<v Speaker 1>drenched the baby in shampoo and then they barely any

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<v Speaker 1>of it out. On the bad scale, it's two rubber

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<v Speaker 1>duckies out of ten. But the premise of the scene

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<v Speaker 1>is that Jefferson Jones is crushing it.

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<v Speaker 15>It was pretty hilarious, I thought, and also very clumsy,

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<v Speaker 15>and they really grouped up with the kid's hair.

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<v Speaker 3>My god, I don't know a shift.

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<v Speaker 18>Here's some soap, sweetie.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a director thing. I mean, that is a flat

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<v Speaker 8>out director fail.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean that right.

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<v Speaker 1>But retake the scene and there probably were three or

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<v Speaker 1>four versions of that.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the one he chose, you know, it's not like

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<v Speaker 8>that was the only one.

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<v Speaker 19>That you're off with.

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<v Speaker 18>Shit that for a bachelor.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, you're sure you don't have a wholestel of

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<v Speaker 7>kids hidden.

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<v Speaker 5>Somewhere I nursed a couple of bear clubs to their muddy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like on SNL when the actors break and laugh

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<v Speaker 1>when Elizabeth's like, I'm not sure if we got all

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<v Speaker 1>the soap out, and Jefferson's like, well we didn't. That's

0:27:07.076 --> 0:27:09.596
<v Speaker 1>the true reaction and it must be improvised. But then

0:27:09.596 --> 0:27:11.756
<v Speaker 1>they go back to the scripted version where Jones is

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job. Most of the people on set

0:27:14.596 --> 0:27:15.996
<v Speaker 1>have some kind of moment.

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<v Speaker 15>Like this, you know, the forest with the snow and

0:27:19.676 --> 0:27:23.196
<v Speaker 15>the sleigh that comes along, and there's even one shot

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<v Speaker 15>I noticed where you can see the wheels under the sleigh.

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<v Speaker 12>I remember the day I was there, they were filming

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<v Speaker 12>that scene where chaos RUPs, you know, and the tree

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<v Speaker 12>falls down and all that.

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<v Speaker 8>We had to do that scene quite a number of time.

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<v Speaker 8>It was as chaotic as the scene is, but behind

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<v Speaker 8>the scenes it was even more so.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a little like like opening a bolode factory for

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<v Speaker 14>cultural you know, it's sort of like, what's going on

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<v Speaker 14>in there? Nothing good, nothing good, don't ask anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of hectic on set, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can hear in people's voices how much

0:28:02.836 --> 0:28:06.276
<v Speaker 1>they love telling this story. Pretty much across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a happy memory for the people I spoke to,

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<v Speaker 1>not least of all, because they never lost sight of

0:28:12.076 --> 0:28:13.556
<v Speaker 1>just how improbable it all was.

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<v Speaker 7>And then in the middle of all this is Arnold

0:28:16.476 --> 0:28:20.356
<v Speaker 7>running around going, you know, move the top or overhead.

0:28:20.436 --> 0:28:22.636
<v Speaker 1>I do this over here, let's go do this.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it could be ten times funny.

0:28:24.596 --> 0:28:24.996
<v Speaker 1>I'll come on.

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<v Speaker 7>So there's Arnold's voice, you know, just bellowing out. And

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<v Speaker 7>that was the other thing that I really remember was that.

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<v Speaker 11>While this is happening, while we're making this little trainy movie,

0:28:42.956 --> 0:28:50.396
<v Speaker 11>he is in theaters with Terminator two and it's doing

0:28:50.596 --> 0:28:53.516
<v Speaker 11>numbers that no one has ever seen before.

0:28:53.676 --> 0:28:57.676
<v Speaker 7>And we were on set when it.

0:28:57.916 --> 0:29:01.316
<v Speaker 6>Crossed five hundred million dollars. But when you're standing next

0:29:01.356 --> 0:29:04.996
<v Speaker 6>to the guy who's the star of that movie, and

0:29:05.836 --> 0:29:07.796
<v Speaker 6>his major concern is whether or not.

0:29:09.356 --> 0:29:11.396
<v Speaker 3>Is they did focus forehead.

0:29:11.516 --> 0:29:15.076
<v Speaker 1>Let's go the forehead thing. You're not the first person

0:29:15.196 --> 0:29:18.996
<v Speaker 1>to bring that up. Several people mentioned to me that

0:29:19.196 --> 0:29:22.596
<v Speaker 1>Arnold Schwartzenegger's favorite put down was to call someone a forehead.

0:29:23.116 --> 0:29:25.836
<v Speaker 1>This actually made it into the movie. When Elizabeth Blaine

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<v Speaker 1>and Jefferson Jones get pulled over by the cops mid

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<v Speaker 1>sleigh ride, the one where you can see the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>this happens.

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<v Speaker 6>What's your hands? Where I can say, I'm you're both

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<v Speaker 6>under arrest.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, come on, come on, you foreheads, get him up?

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<v Speaker 7>You what?

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually a big part of why I love

0:29:42.236 --> 0:29:45.396
<v Speaker 1>this movie. It has a kind of free jazz improvisitory

0:29:45.516 --> 0:29:49.596
<v Speaker 1>quality to it. It's oddly self referential and also very sweet.

0:29:50.116 --> 0:29:51.996
<v Speaker 1>It's like how you can hear in someone's voice when

0:29:52.036 --> 0:29:56.276
<v Speaker 1>they're smiling. That's how this movie feels. Because, even at

0:29:56.276 --> 0:29:58.916
<v Speaker 1>the risk of himself being labeled a forehead who couldn't

0:29:58.956 --> 0:30:02.676
<v Speaker 1>direct the movie, Arnold Schwarzenegger was showing up every day

0:30:02.836 --> 0:30:05.396
<v Speaker 1>and putting in his all for the film. Buffs and

0:30:05.436 --> 0:30:07.476
<v Speaker 1>the crew. It was a dream come true just to

0:30:07.556 --> 0:30:10.196
<v Speaker 1>work with him or with a legend like Tony Curtis.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a trip to oz that I

0:30:14.476 --> 0:30:17.316
<v Speaker 3>knew it was short lived, but it was something I

0:30:17.436 --> 0:30:20.436
<v Speaker 3>was going to take in and enjoy them as much

0:30:20.476 --> 0:30:21.076
<v Speaker 3>as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>After twenty days of shooting the film wrapped, they had

0:30:25.316 --> 0:30:28.676
<v Speaker 1>a party at Arnold Swartzeninger's restaurant. It was around Christmas

0:30:28.756 --> 0:30:30.716
<v Speaker 1>time and they all got sweatshirts with the name of

0:30:30.756 --> 0:30:31.756
<v Speaker 1>the film on the front.

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<v Speaker 15>And on the back was a picture of Arnold with

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<v Speaker 15>a Santa hat on, wearing sunglasses and saying something about

0:30:47.676 --> 0:30:50.396
<v Speaker 15>I can't remember the full of anybody used for you forehead.

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<v Speaker 1>Later, Jim was kind enough to send me a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of the sweatshirt. It said on the back more snow

0:30:57.476 --> 0:31:02.756
<v Speaker 1>u forehead. There's my Schwartzenegger impression with the film in

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<v Speaker 1>the can post production and premieres loomed. That's after the break,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to the premiere of Arnold Schwarzenegger's nineteen

0:31:20.876 --> 0:31:23.716
<v Speaker 1>ninety two Christmas and Connecticut remake, I want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about something that happened earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all for coming, Thank you Mitch for coming

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<v Speaker 2>down from Try.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, thanks for having me here.

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm interviewed Mitch Album live on stage at the ninety

0:31:35.876 --> 0:31:38.996
<v Speaker 1>second Street Y Album is the best selling author of

0:31:39.076 --> 0:31:42.556
<v Speaker 1>some ungodly number of books, but he's probably most famous

0:31:42.716 --> 0:31:46.156
<v Speaker 1>for Tuesdays with Maury. He and Malcolm were there to

0:31:46.236 --> 0:31:49.716
<v Speaker 1>talk about his new novel about the Holocaust, The Little Liar.

0:31:50.556 --> 0:31:52.916
<v Speaker 1>They were warming up with some Mitch backstory about his

0:31:53.036 --> 0:31:54.636
<v Speaker 1>time as a musician in New York.

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<v Speaker 17>I tried the whole starving musician thing, and I played

0:31:58.756 --> 0:32:01.076
<v Speaker 17>in all the clubs around here on Monday nights.

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<v Speaker 1>I was backstage at this event peering out. I hadn't

0:32:04.756 --> 0:32:07.676
<v Speaker 1>read Mitch's book. I was up to something else.

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<v Speaker 2>We should probably do this, befall, we get too far

0:32:11.276 --> 0:32:14.916
<v Speaker 2>afield on the music thing. If you've been talking so much,

0:32:15.436 --> 0:32:18.236
<v Speaker 2>you will note that behind you. Yeah, there's a corg.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, the audience of people who had come

0:32:21.796 --> 0:32:23.756
<v Speaker 1>that night to hear the author of Tuesdays with Maury

0:32:23.796 --> 0:32:27.196
<v Speaker 1>discussed the Holocaust noticed the electric piano behind him.

0:32:28.116 --> 0:32:33.076
<v Speaker 2>And we have a request that you play one of

0:32:33.236 --> 0:32:39.356
<v Speaker 2>your most famous compositions, which you know what I'm talking about.

0:32:39.356 --> 0:32:43.796
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about Cooking for two from the legendary Arnold

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<v Speaker 2>Schwarzenegger nineteen ninety two, made for TV movie Christmas in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, can you keep the recognition?

0:32:52.036 --> 0:32:55.156
<v Speaker 1>Yes it was my keyboard, and yes I had planted

0:32:55.236 --> 0:32:55.556
<v Speaker 1>it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch, No, no, this.

0:32:58.076 --> 0:32:59.316
<v Speaker 7>For some reason, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>My colleague Ben is obsessed with this and really wanted

0:33:03.156 --> 0:33:04.836
<v Speaker 2>us to do this, And I thought, how great would

0:33:04.836 --> 0:33:06.196
<v Speaker 2>it be for you to sing one of our songs?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like, just give us a little taste.

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<v Speaker 19>I have to tell you this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell tell Okay.

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<v Speaker 17>So after I got out of the music business, I

0:33:16.916 --> 0:33:19.156
<v Speaker 17>had a college roommate who went into the movie business.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be Stanley M. Brooks, executive producer of Christmas

0:33:23.116 --> 0:33:28.676
<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut. Stan and Mitch were roommates at Brandeis and he.

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<v Speaker 17>Knew that I was a musician, and he was making

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<v Speaker 17>a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger as a producer, and Schwarzenegger

0:33:33.996 --> 0:33:36.076
<v Speaker 17>was the director of Christmas in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>The remake.

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<v Speaker 17>Sounds about as good as it was, I think, and

0:33:44.356 --> 0:33:48.396
<v Speaker 17>they needed as a song because she played Diane Cannon

0:33:48.836 --> 0:33:52.516
<v Speaker 17>played the lead and she was a cook on TV

0:33:52.676 --> 0:33:52.956
<v Speaker 17>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 19>So the song had to be about food.

0:33:55.476 --> 0:34:00.116
<v Speaker 17>And they wanted to use Harry Connick's Recipe for Love

0:34:00.236 --> 0:34:02.556
<v Speaker 17>or something like that, but they couldn't afford it. So

0:34:02.956 --> 0:34:05.356
<v Speaker 17>stan calls me and says, we need a song that's

0:34:05.436 --> 0:34:08.676
<v Speaker 17>kind of upbeat about food for Ronald Swartzenegger's movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do it?

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<v Speaker 18>You know?

0:34:09.836 --> 0:34:10.916
<v Speaker 17>I said, well, what do you need it?

0:34:10.956 --> 0:34:15.276
<v Speaker 1>By Thursday? You know, it was Tuesday, you know, So

0:34:15.596 --> 0:34:17.916
<v Speaker 1>I just went and wrote a little song.

0:34:18.036 --> 0:34:20.996
<v Speaker 17>And my wife is a singer a fantastic singer, and

0:34:22.716 --> 0:34:26.076
<v Speaker 17>I said, honey, can you sing this song because we

0:34:26.156 --> 0:34:28.756
<v Speaker 17>don't have time to go find anybody else. And he

0:34:28.916 --> 0:34:30.836
<v Speaker 17>listened to it and he said, I liked a bun

0:34:30.916 --> 0:34:35.476
<v Speaker 17>but the girl. And that's how the song was chosen. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:35.556 --> 0:34:37.556
<v Speaker 17>I want you to play it. I really think you should.

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<v Speaker 5>So it went.

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<v Speaker 18>Now, remember it had to be about food, food, So

0:34:44.116 --> 0:34:54.436
<v Speaker 18>it went, let's go to the kitchen. I got something

0:34:54.516 --> 0:34:56.436
<v Speaker 18>fixing advertising and dowd.

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<v Speaker 19>Here we're cooking for two. They're inside the oven something

0:35:05.516 --> 0:35:06.196
<v Speaker 19>warm and loving.

0:35:06.276 --> 0:35:09.436
<v Speaker 18>Friends would laugh. They knew that it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>We're cooking for two.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the bridge.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a souper WONDERL.

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<v Speaker 18>Left numbers every night all but once I tasted your kisses.

0:35:23.436 --> 0:35:28.516
<v Speaker 19>I was dining my candlelight. Here's a recipe for all

0:35:28.636 --> 0:35:29.436
<v Speaker 19>the world to see.

0:35:29.516 --> 0:35:34.596
<v Speaker 1>We take some me and some you. Then it's too We're.

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<v Speaker 7>Cooking for two.

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<v Speaker 14>I love you.

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<v Speaker 19>We're cooking for two.

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<v Speaker 1>That definitely ranks amongst one of the most embarrassing.

0:35:58.356 --> 0:35:59.236
<v Speaker 20>Things I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>They planned to play it over the credits with a

0:36:04.276 --> 0:36:07.556
<v Speaker 1>Mitch album closing track in hand. Christmas in Connecticut was

0:36:07.596 --> 0:36:10.836
<v Speaker 1>almost ready to debut most made for TV movies you

0:36:10.996 --> 0:36:13.636
<v Speaker 1>just put out on television, but not this one.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, TV movies don't have screenings. If we

0:36:16.916 --> 0:36:20.356
<v Speaker 3>have a screening, it's like ten people and you know,

0:36:20.436 --> 0:36:23.156
<v Speaker 3>you were in a screening room somewhere like this was

0:36:23.476 --> 0:36:25.916
<v Speaker 3>the big theater at the DGA, which holds I don't know,

0:36:25.996 --> 0:36:29.676
<v Speaker 3>a thousand people, massive screen and there's a huge red

0:36:29.796 --> 0:36:32.436
<v Speaker 3>carpet and a press line.

0:36:33.716 --> 0:36:37.716
<v Speaker 8>We had two theaters going and there were phil When

0:36:37.716 --> 0:36:38.796
<v Speaker 8>I tell you that there's.

0:36:38.676 --> 0:36:41.196
<v Speaker 3>Never been a television movie before since, they had a

0:36:41.396 --> 0:36:43.796
<v Speaker 3>press line. And he's walking down working the press, and

0:36:43.996 --> 0:36:47.116
<v Speaker 3>like you know and I know that this see person.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Ambros Executi.

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<v Speaker 1>Producer h l According to san Ivan Wrightman and James

0:36:53.276 --> 0:36:56.116
<v Speaker 1>Cameron were there, along with the whole slew of Hollywood Royalty.

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<v Speaker 1>The screening was in LA. It was a media sensation.

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<v Speaker 8>Watch out Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 12>There's a new director in town, and he's used to

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<v Speaker 12>making a big impact that is in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 11>When you act and you see such talent that directs

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<v Speaker 11>as I've worked with, it inspires you.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet Brownell, the screenwriter, was not having such a good night.

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<v Speaker 8>I remember sitting at the screening with my agent and

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<v Speaker 8>I was like crying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was like, oh my god, why were

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<v Speaker 1>you crying?

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<v Speaker 8>This is like it's so bad, and my name is

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<v Speaker 8>on this.

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<v Speaker 12>My agent was very fast to get me a drink

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<v Speaker 12>at that point. I just remember outside there was kind

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<v Speaker 12>of a Christmas theme sort of party.

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<v Speaker 1>And just like I need to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was no putting the genie back in the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>TNT was running promo's NonStop.

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<v Speaker 5>I love romantic comedies, so I made one myself, Christmas

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<v Speaker 5>in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a romantic comedy with all the trimmings.

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<v Speaker 11>What in the world could possibly go wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas in Connectic directed by Arnold Schwartznick, you have a

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<v Speaker 3>problem with that? A TNT exclusive premiere Monday, April thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you caught that, but the film

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<v Speaker 1>came out in April, one week before Easter. As one

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<v Speaker 1>review put it, quote, don't ask me why a Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>movie is premiering in April. As his then wife Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Shreiver reflected, he just does. He's a big one on

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<v Speaker 1>don't think about it or talk about it, do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he goes, I think we want to scud

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<v Speaker 3>into it again. That was too much fun. I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I go see if I can organ. I goes no,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ski in Washington. And by friend Jack Lent,

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<v Speaker 3>so now we all fight Washington and uh. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was a it was a who's who of of Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was senators and members of cabinet. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a seated dinner and I remember my wife and I

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<v Speaker 3>sit down. We weren't work in the room, so we

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<v Speaker 3>sit last at our table. And the guy next to

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<v Speaker 3>me has got like a dressed uniform on, and I say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Stam Brooks, I'm the producer, and he goes, hey, Oliver North.

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver North of Iran contra fame. The film a big

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<v Speaker 1>hit in the belt Way. Suff I sit to say,

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<v Speaker 1>this made for television Christmas movie had an unusually big reception,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also didn't really do much to establish Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger as a director. The reviews were mixed.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, I'm looking on IMDb right now, it's like the

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<v Speaker 15>rating is four point eight out of ten, and they're

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<v Speaker 15>not far off.

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<v Speaker 3>We nobody had any Oh my god, we're making It's

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<v Speaker 3>a wonderful life.

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<v Speaker 1>I realize I've had a lot of fun with this

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<v Speaker 1>movie and gun to my head. Do I think it's good?

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<v Speaker 13>No?

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<v Speaker 1>But do I love it? Obviously yes, because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>totally weird and over committed to its bit that it

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<v Speaker 1>has a kind of joyfulness to it that honestly gets

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<v Speaker 1>me in the Christmas spirit and at its core, like

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<v Speaker 1>the best Christmas films, The story behind the movie is

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<v Speaker 1>a story of love and friendship between Arnold Schwartzenegger and

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<v Speaker 1>San Brooks, two men brought together by a love of

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<v Speaker 1>making movies. After the film, Stan and Arnold stayed touch.

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<v Speaker 1>Stan even moved into Arnold Schwarzenegger's office building. The kids

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<v Speaker 1>played football together, and even though they never made another

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<v Speaker 1>movie together, their collaboration had one more act. Almost ten

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<v Speaker 1>years to the day from when Christmas in Connecticut began shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governor of California. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of hand ringing over an issue

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<v Speaker 1>called runaway production. Lots of states had started offering tax

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<v Speaker 1>breaks to lure films into shooting somewhere other than California.

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<v Speaker 1>It had become a real problem for Hollywood as an

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<v Speaker 1>industry town. This was one of the crises Schwarzenegger would

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<v Speaker 1>have to face in his new role as governor. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the way people talked about his becoming governor was the

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<v Speaker 1>same way they talked about his becoming a director. So

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<v Speaker 1>it only makes sense that he wanted stan Brooks in

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<v Speaker 1>his administration.

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<v Speaker 16>So when he became governor, he was in about a

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<v Speaker 16>year and he called me and he said, how would

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<v Speaker 16>you like to be on the film Commission? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 16>that's a dumb idea.

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<v Speaker 7>He goes why.

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<v Speaker 16>I said, well, because I don't shoot movies in California.

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<v Speaker 16>I said, I'm like the worst person you could put

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<v Speaker 16>on the film commission because I take my movies out

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<v Speaker 16>of state. And he goes, oh, that's why we want

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<v Speaker 16>to because we want to try and pass the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Stan joined the California Film Commission, and over the next

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<v Speaker 1>few years he was a key part of the lobbying

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<v Speaker 1>efforts to pass the tax credits that would make it

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<v Speaker 1>easier to film in California.

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<v Speaker 16>It was a hard fight, and so I ended up

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<v Speaker 16>making a short film, a short documentary film where we

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<v Speaker 16>interviewed some of the families that left on why and

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<v Speaker 16>that ended up being more powerful than any speech we

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<v Speaker 16>could make in their office.

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<v Speaker 1>The first tax credits passed in two thousand and nine.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been renewed ever since. So back to our original question,

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<v Speaker 1>why did Arnold Schwarzenegger direct to this bizarre one off

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas film? I found my answer in a story Stan

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<v Speaker 1>told me.

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<v Speaker 3>He says to me one night we finished around seven

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<v Speaker 3>or eight, and he goes, well, you're doing And I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on holme. He goes, hees, Maria's making you know

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<v Speaker 3>you want to come to the house. So oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So we both jump in our cars and we drive

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<v Speaker 3>to Pacific Kyli State. And at that dinner, I remember

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<v Speaker 3>Arnold turned to me. He says, you have a good talent.

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<v Speaker 3>I own the stat why don't be big feet chifs?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, to be honest, I didn't get in

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<v Speaker 3>the business to make big famous movies and got in

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<v Speaker 3>the business to make movies. And I get to make

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<v Speaker 3>two or three a year. If I'm in the future business,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm lucky. If I make one every other year every

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<v Speaker 3>three years, I go, I'm happy with my life. He goes, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>The story really had honed for me because I get

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<v Speaker 1>what that's like to just love making something, even a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of improbably dense story about the making of the

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<v Speaker 1>remake of a Christmas movie. It's like Stan said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you love making movies or anything, it's just a gift

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<v Speaker 1>to get to make more, even if they're maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>the best, especially if it's clear how much fun you

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<v Speaker 1>had make whatever it is you're making. So to close,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just share one quote from the very last

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<v Speaker 1>page of Charles Dickens as a Christmas Carol, a passage

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<v Speaker 1>about Scrooge after he's seen the light. Quote. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>laughed to see the alteration in him, but he let

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<v Speaker 1>them laugh, and little heeded them, for he was wise

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<v Speaker 1>enough to know that nothing ever happened on this globe

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<v Speaker 1>for good, at which some people did not have their

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<v Speaker 1>fill of laughter. In the outset, his own heart laughed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was quite enough for him. Maybe Stan and

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<v Speaker 1>Arnold didn't make It's a Wonderful Life, but it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me like their own hearts were laughing. So from

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<v Speaker 1>all of us here at Revision's History, Happy holidays, you foreheads.

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<v Speaker 1>See you in the New year. Revisionist History is produced

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<v Speaker 1>by me Bennatt of Haffrey and Lucy Sullivan with Nina

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<v Speaker 1>Bird Lawrence. Our editor is Karen Chakerji. Fact checking on

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<v Speaker 1>this episode by Sam Russick, a resident Schwarzenegger fan. Original

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<v Speaker 1>scoring by Luis Gara, mastering by Jake Krsky. Our executive

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<v Speaker 1>producer is Jacob Smith. Special thanks to Sarah Nix, David Arnott,

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<v Speaker 1>Linda Berman, Iris Grossman, and Scott Sassa. I'm Ben Mattapaffery.

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<v Speaker 20>Three two one. We wish Royal Berry Christmas. We wish

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<v Speaker 20>you Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you are Merry Christmas?

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<v Speaker 20>New with you, guys,