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Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, the show that takes

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment,

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Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey into

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Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel say that, dude,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a great show, because we always have

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Speaker 1: a great show. Demon because we talked real, We talked

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Speaker 1: that truth over here. But you know what, we gotta

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Speaker 1: start off with. What's up with that? Dude? Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you all right, yesterday I went to my country club. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am a member pastor great poupon at a country club.

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Speaker 1: I feel good about that. Get y'all from confident now,

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Speaker 1: I got two seeds country club. Right, Oh man, I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I met my business manager. Another thing to be proud of. Right,

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Speaker 1: my business manager. He looked at me like, dog, you

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Speaker 1: spend too much money. Either make more or spend less.

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Speaker 1: Damn it? All right, I was like, that is called

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Speaker 1: a wife. She is doing her thing right now with

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Speaker 1: great meeting. We haven't seen each other forever. He represents

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Speaker 1: all these mega artists out there too. I would say

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Speaker 1: his name, but then y'all gonna follow him and google

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Speaker 1: him and didn't be talking about me. He don't need

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Speaker 1: all that in his life. But that's my dude, shout

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Speaker 1: out to a mirror. We had a great time after that.

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Speaker 1: Came home, you know, the kid thing, had to pick

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Speaker 1: him up all that stuff. We went to basketball evaluations.

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Speaker 1: So I am Phil Belichick. That's what they call me, right,

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Speaker 1: y'all know. We won a championship in football, but we

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Speaker 1: also were in the championship we lost in basketball. My

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Speaker 1: took a picture. I was proud, like, yeah, my boy

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Speaker 1: ranked number one of a hundred. Yeah, I was like yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he had his evaluations yesterday and he looked really good.

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Speaker 1: He's been working on his right hand because he's a lefty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: called dribble Up. They have all types of sports, but

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Speaker 1: and this virtual coach pops out and it's like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: let's do this, let's do this. And MJ will be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: mother in law went on a date. Ain't that rando? Like?

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Speaker 1: And she comes back she's really excited. I'm listening to

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Speaker 1: Leo Messium. I saw a video in a picture of

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Speaker 1: Leo Messi just trying to go to dinner. You imagine

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Speaker 1: we're going to Mastros. Lovely, lovely. And you show up

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Speaker 1: I don't give a damn. The name can't be Lionel.

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you it's Kim Kardashian nine. Believe in that

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Speaker 1: I knew Kim Kardashian pre kim Ka, like the stardom

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Speaker 1: Y'all google it, y'all figure it out. Nah, and and

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Speaker 1: Who are the five and I want y'all to rank

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Speaker 1: like megastars. But who is this close to Lionel Messi Beyonce? Yep,

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Speaker 1: You guys think about chores as well, and the best

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Speaker 1: call him next level salute Like no better person on

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Speaker 1: He was investing in me. That's when we first started

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Speaker 1: I ain't got a check luggage, a black a Gucci

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Speaker 1: So he said, forget y'all. All right, y'all not gonna

420
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Speaker 1: kill my dreams. So I'm gonna go on the internet,

421
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: go independent, and just start talking and doing the show

422
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: I wanted. I got five dollars saved up from kicking

423
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: the ball. Let's go. They should have invited him back.

424
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: They should have said, you know what, let's actually revisit

425
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: this and hire him from Hello because Dak killing It

426
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: obviously had the fan duel deal. And let me just

427
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: start this off with a story. The story was this.

428
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: I got a call maybe in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen

429
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: from an audio agent that represented Pat McAfee some capacity

430
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: I guess New History. So he's calling me. It's like, marselfs,

431
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: you need to get back to radio, you need to

432
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: get back on audio, you need to do a podcast.

433
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: And I was like at Fox at the time, and

434
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: I was like, man, being real. I was looking down

435
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: on people on the internet. I was looking down on

436
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: the podcast, like, man, what the hell I'll do a

437
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: TV show? And what he didn't know is in my deal,

438
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: they said I couldn't do radio anymore. They wanted me fresh, perky,

439
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: just for one TV show, and they paid me to

440
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: not even think about it, like, don't even think about radio.

441
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you like that. So I was like,

442
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: all right, I was cool. I was comfortable. I was

443
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: in that velvet coffin I always talk about, right, but

444
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I miss radio. I love radio. I didn't love Radio's

445
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: hours four hours a day and Max Kellerman and myself, Kelvin, etc.

446
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: You know, it was just a lot of that, Travis.

447
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: But I love the connection. I loved it because me,

448
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: you know me, I like to go off the rails.

449
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: We ain't talking to those stories like this, Unky. It

450
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: was third and goal. It was frigid temperatures. Nah, hell no,

451
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: We're talking about what I've been through, what you going through,

452
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: and the experiences in the life that intersects every one

453
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Speaker 1: of these stories. So I missed radio. This guy's like, yo, Marcellus,

454
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: do that. I said, all right, I'm good, and he's like, okay,

455
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Speaker 1: a little fun fact in trivia. Let's have some fun.

456
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: Who makes the most in your world? I was like

457
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Colin Skip or stephen A. At the time, it was

458
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: like eight million or something, six to eight million. He

459
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he said, Pat McAfee making ten already,

460
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: I said the putter. He was like yeah. I was

461
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: like what And we all know now he making three

462
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: four times that crazy, right, So let's get into the story.

463
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee debates one hundred and twenty million dollars fan

464
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: duel decision quote. A lot going on in my life,

465
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: Pat Earlier, he was reported as potentially walking away from

466
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: the deal with Fan Duel. I got a lot going

467
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: on in my life. I got a baby girl on

468
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: the way. This past season, there was so much stuff

469
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: off the show that had to be dealt with and

470
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: handled interesting, he said. His crew is very, very lucky

471
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: to have a big audience for this show. But his

472
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: numerous responsibilities are taking a toll all right, there comes

473
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: some problems with all that too, he says, not problems,

474
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: as he said, but obstacles. Oh, here we go right,

475
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: like he is, much has given, much is expected, much

476
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: as given much as ask for. Right. We're in that

477
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: space right now, he said. What it comes with is

478
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of busy work, almost like time time time, time,

479
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: time checked out from life. Oh Man, starting to feel

480
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: the weight of being the great. You know that crown

481
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: is starting to get a little heavy on top of

482
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: that head, He said. I never had visions or thoughts

483
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: that I would be a father because I always said

484
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: that if I wanted to have a child, I would

485
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: want to have generational wealth because I wouldn't want my

486
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Speaker 1: child to have any of the stresses or anything that

487
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: potentially brings into your life. Get it, He acknowledged that

488
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: a lot of this comes with money, but it's not

489
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: all perfect, not perfect, a lot of new problems, he said.

490
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: Another one to use his fatherhood as an excuse. I

491
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: love this topic, he said, every time I fall in

492
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: love with the idea that I'm gonna be able to

493
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: shape a human to help shape society hopefully. But to

494
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: do that, you got to be around. You gotta be present.

495
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: So in the effort to make my life a lot easier,

496
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm exploring the options and maybe joining the network or

497
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: family or a community that can handle a lot of

498
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: things that we're running into at this stage. Independence comes

499
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: with a different set of circumstances and problems than does

500
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: network television. Right. Basically, He's like, I gotta do a

501
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: lot of this busy work, and over there they got

502
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: somebody employed to do that busy work, and that comes

503
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: with its own set of problems as well, creativity, etc.

504
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: The license to do what you want to do, etc.

505
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: We can see the give and take of this situation,

506
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: he said. Look, let me just end it like this.

507
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: It would be nice to maybe live just a little

508
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: bit of life. So he has now got himself into

509
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: consume with work mode, not only doing the show, preparation

510
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: for the show. But in posts, you gotta make these

511
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: deals happen. You gotta shake those hands. You gotta go

512
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: out there and fill in the blanks of you are independent.

513
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: You only gonna eat what you kill. And I think

514
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: McAfee is like, yo, right now, I can slay at all,

515
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: but damn it, dog, it comes at a cost. And

516
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the one thing we don't get back is our time.

517
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: As much as we think money is the cure all man,

518
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: let me tell you, everybody got the same bank account

519
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: when it comes to time in a day twenty four hours, right,

520
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: but how you use it differently for everybody. The president

521
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: has twenty four hours. The lazy guy that you know

522
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: at work who never wants to do his work, he

523
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: has twenty four hours. Everybody has twenty four hours. Is

524
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: how you utilize it. And right now he's feeling the

525
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: demand of utilizing his to serve his independent space. Totally

526
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: get that now. He said he's never gonna leave YouTube,

527
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: no matter where he goes. If he goes, he's like,

528
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on YouTube and it's always going to

529
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: be free. Man. You know what's crazy about this story?

530
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: The pair lels to where I am in life in

531
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: terms of mindset. And it's like Pat's trying to go

532
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: back to the networks, where I'm trying to leave the networks.

533
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the similarities in our paths. When

534
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: you have kids and I have four kids, he's gonna

535
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: have this first. It sounds like kids will do this

536
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: to you. Kids will absolutely do this to you. They'll

537
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: make you think about the life you're leaving and not

538
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: the life you're living. I'm gonna say it again, the

539
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: life you're leaving them, not the life you're living. So

540
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you like just have this outer

541
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: body experience of what am I doing for them? What

542
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: am I leaving for them? Not what I'm up to. Now.

543
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: When you're Pat McAfee, he's like, you know what I'm

544
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: up to? Too much busy work. I need to have

545
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: time and bandwidth for my kids. And that's what he's

546
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: trying to prepare for. He's trying to plan for it.

547
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: And literally, one of the conversations I was having in

548
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: my last negotiations was about travel, and I was like, man, yes,

549
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I could travel. No, I can't travel. Oh I could

550
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: do the Michael Strahan playing No, I can't do that.

551
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: My kids are too young. I want to be there

552
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: for my kids, and I felt those pools and you

553
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: gotta be there and gotta be present. Who cares how

554
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: much money you have? Your kids don't. Your kids don't

555
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: care like you care. They like, look, yeah, I want

556
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: some baby blades. Damnit, Daddy hooked me up. Give me

557
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: some more legos, extra legos, please. But at the same time,

558
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: they just want your attention. They just want you to

559
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: be present, They just want you to be involved. Right,

560
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: So Pat McAfee is trying to carve that out. And

561
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: another thing about this that is interesting is what will

562
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: it do to the space both spaces because Pat McAfee

563
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: is doing the balance in that we see him wwe right,

564
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: we see him on Saturday Game Day. We also see

565
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: him every day on his YouTube channel. Right, So it's like,

566
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with all of this? All I know

567
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: is that Pat McAfee man salute to his perseverance, to

568
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: his greatness, he carved away or at least he gave

569
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: more courage to even guys like me to go out

570
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: there and do it because it's more lucrative, more no

571
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: doubt at the top on the Internet and at the

572
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: top at the networks, no conversation, not even a question.

573
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: Who makes more? Like that agent told me it's the Internet.

574
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: That's why I in part I'm hearing right. But at

575
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: the same time, what I love also is that Pat

576
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: McAfee has come to the realization is I've always been

577
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: on myself. So far, so great, I'm winning. Maybe he

578
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: changes even the network in terms of what they're gonna

579
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: do in opportunities, how much they're gonna pay, and also

580
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: creative freedom. Maybe McAfee is gonna be the one that

581
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: changes that, or at least widens the border. I gotta

582
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: say one more time, I love this dude. Man. I

583
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: love to meet you too. Man, give you a real

584
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: salute in person, because y'a out there killing it, keep

585
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: slamming big dog. All right, y'all, y'all know how we

586
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: end every show when the wily is um yeah, yeah,

587
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: wily ism or I want to hear today we're getting

588
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: better with that song even though it still sucks. Okay,

589
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: you're ready. Faith is belief in things unseen, and confidence

590
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: is belief in things undone. Yes, yes, yes, Lord past

591
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: five yeah, somebody hit the organ right now. Faith is

592
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: belief and things unseen, and confidence is belief and things undone. Man,

593
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: I love that, you know me, I gotta go tangent.

594
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: I hate in church when I catch the queue from

595
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: the pastor that he's looking at the organist like yo,

596
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: hit it right now, and the dude like the dude

597
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: ain't even feeling what the pastor's saying, but he just

598
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: caught that que like okay, So I hate when it happens.

599
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: I hate when I catch it at least all right,

600
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Faith is belief and things unseen. We already know that.

601
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean from Bible and just everything we've had in

602
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: our life. You gotta believe him the things you want,

603
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: even if you can't see him right now. But confidence

604
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: is belief in things undone. Oh wait a minute, means

605
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet, but I still believe. Yes, Yes,

606
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee going to the major networks now, confident no

607
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: one he's gonna do it, even if he can't see

608
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: it yet. How it's materializing. Me coming to the internet,

609
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: y'all know, I'll here fifty thousand subscribers in sixty eight days.

610
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's great or good, but I

611
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: know it ain't bad. People getting me like, damn your

612
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: channel growing. I'm like, man, that's love. Appreciate y'all. I

613
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: knew it's a space out here to just say it

614
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: like we say it, see it like we see it.

615
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Stop all that bass, stop all that we gotta argue

616
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: and everything an argument. Let's just learn from it or

617
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: unlearned from it. So fifty thousand plus and sixty eight days,

618
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: salute to you guys. Man, I have faith, also had

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Speaker 1: confidence because faith is belief and things unseen, and college

620
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: is belief in things. All right, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for more too. It checked the show notes for all

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00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: the information on our topics two days. Dude, you want

623
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Speaker 1: to keep the conversation going, how I know you do?

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Speaker 1: Less talk find me on all socials at Marcellus Way.

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Speaker 1: That's right. More to It is a production of Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Productions, That Dude Entertainment and Workhouse Media show as

627
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: executive produced by Dan Patrick, marcels Wality. That's me that Dude, Well,

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Speaker 1: Paul Anderson, and Nick Panella. Marcells Wally, thanks for listening.

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