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Speaker 4: Colts dot com slash Camp. I'm Matt Taylor. Good to

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Speaker 4: be with you. Lara Overton is here. JJ Stegowitz is here. Guys,

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Speaker 4: Lara for you, what are you most looking forward to

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Speaker 4: about training camp? The fact that it's finally here. Your

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Speaker 3: Oh, anticipation is huge.

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Speaker 5: It's real football again, you know, like you're actually getting

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Speaker 5: you're gonna really ramp up into those preseason games which

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just the true football.

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Speaker 5: I mean, of course, you know you get like the

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Speaker 5: like in the spring with you know, OTAs in mini camp,

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Speaker 3: That, now we're getting into some like meat potatoes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, loaded up podcasts here today as always coming up

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Speaker 5: Successful camp is not a lot of stop and go.

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Speaker 1: Let's not forget that Anthony last year only had I

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Speaker 4: And I think this year there's only correct me if

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Speaker 4: there's only four instances where the Colts will practice back

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Speaker 3: That was something that he heavily emphasized.

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Speaker 2: All look forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I always look for it, I get personally high.

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Speaker 1: And think about it. If this offense was already tenth

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Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of flirt was scoring about thirty points per game.

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Speaker 4: So you're both are you both are just spot on.

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Speaker 4: You want to see those things show up and the

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Speaker 4: preseason games as well. But aha, Lara, how much does

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's not an extensive amount of time, but it's

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Speaker 3: All of that to me is so I want to

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Speaker 1: I think whatever plan you know, Shane stuf and Chris

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Speaker 5: Go, right, and then you because then that next week

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Speaker 1: Right, and Anthony did play in that third preseason he

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, absolutely so all good takes right there. Let's

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Speaker 4: JJ Stangoviitz caught up with Nate Tice from Yahoo's Sports.

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 1: It is my pleasure to be joined here on the

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Speaker 1: official Colts by Nate Tice, staff writerer at Yahoo Sports.

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Speaker 1: You can read his stuff, you can watch his stuff

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Speaker 1: over at Yahoo. One of my personal favorite NFL analysts,

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Speaker 1: and not because he's just a huge fan of Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson and Shane Stake and Nate. Welcome to the podcast. Man.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure that gets me through the door or helps me,

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Speaker 6: like get keep the invite open. Yeah, just all right,

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Speaker 6: he says some nice things still, Okay, yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 7: No, I'm super happy to be here.

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Speaker 6: I know we've kind of been trying to get together

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Speaker 1: So with this Colts team, you kind of got this

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Speaker 1: And I love following you on Twitter. You can follow

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Speaker 1: Nate on Twitter or x or whatever it's called at

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Speaker 1: Nate underscore Tice because it's like every couple of months

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Speaker 1: I just see, like you put that clip the All

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what's really fun with Anthony Richardson outside of being

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Speaker 6: watching some hot, high end quarterback play which I think

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Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson is capable of.

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Speaker 7: It's a nice mouthwashed for me to out of the

441
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Speaker 7: draft season.

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Speaker 1: Something that stood out to me when we we had

443
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Speaker 1: a chance to talk with Shane Steichen this offseason about

444
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Speaker 1: Anthony's he talked about this one play against Tennessee where

445
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Speaker 1: Josh Downs came in jet motion from right to left

446
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,120
Speaker 1: and Tennessee never covered him. They didn't pull a guy

447
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: in coverage, and the play didn't call for Anthony Richardson

448
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: to even look that way, but he took the snap

449
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 1: and he immediately got the ball to Downs. It was

450
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Speaker 1: like a ten yard gain. In Week five and the

451
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Speaker 1: play called for him to go read out. I think

452
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Speaker 1: it was a maybe a post to Michael Pittman. It

453
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Speaker 1: was like a high low on the right side. He

454
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Speaker 1: instent took the snap. He said, Hey, no one's covering him.

455
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give him the ball. As somebody who's

456
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Speaker 1: played quarterback, who's been you know, around NFL teams, who

457
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Speaker 1: studies this game, to have a quarterback, even as a rookie,

458
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Speaker 1: who can just feel the game like that, is that remarkable?

459
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Speaker 1: Is that notable?

460
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Speaker 7: Like?

461
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Speaker 1: How do you kind of digest a play like that

462
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Speaker 1: that gets a coach really excited? But otherwise fans might say, well,

463
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Speaker 1: that's you know, it's an easy throw. He just dumped

464
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Speaker 1: it off to the open guy. Like you kind of

465
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Speaker 1: digest that skill that Anthony has.

466
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Speaker 7: I think, and I think we're seeing a little bit

467
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Speaker 7: more with quarterbacks now. Is you gotta be a football player.

468
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Speaker 7: You gotta play football.

469
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Speaker 6: You can't be everything just totally on script and one,

470
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Speaker 6: two three, And yes, we'd love seeing efficient play and

471
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Speaker 6: efficient timing and everything, which you still have to have

472
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Speaker 6: as a high end quarterback, but you have to be

473
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Speaker 6: able to add lib and be able to just read

474
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Speaker 6: the game out. I think that shows Anthony's we always

475
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Speaker 6: want to about arm arrogance and armed confidence and everything.

476
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Speaker 7: I think this is just mental confidence.

477
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Speaker 6: That's him trusting that he can do that within the

478
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Speaker 6: realms of the play. You'll see freshman quarterback come in

479
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Speaker 6: there and not understand how rules work, you know, throwing

480
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 6: the ball away and things like that, but it shows

481
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Speaker 6: that he's like, yeah, I can do this within the

482
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Speaker 6: realms of this play, even if it's not what it's called.

483
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Speaker 6: I mean, Holmes does that all the time, and other

484
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Speaker 6: guys do that a few times also, probably just shows

485
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Speaker 6: that he understands. You see a lot of quarterbacks improve

486
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Speaker 6: in leaps and bounds when the mental side slows down,

487
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Speaker 6: and you hear that about athletes all the time. Some

488
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Speaker 6: guys it's just it happens later, some guys when they're

489
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Speaker 6: in Some guys it's before college, like Peyton Manning probably,

490
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Speaker 6: and some guys it's right when they entered the NFL

491
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Speaker 6: or something of that. I'm talking about every sport too, though,

492
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Speaker 6: and I think when the mental confidence gets there and

493
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Speaker 6: it starts slowing down mentally, then everything else slows down.

494
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Speaker 6: The footwork slows down, the processing slows down for the

495
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Speaker 6: more speeds up.

496
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Speaker 7: I should say in a good way.

497
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Speaker 6: You see a guy like Josh Allen, I think a

498
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Speaker 6: lot was made about his mechanical work, which there was

499
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Speaker 6: some some tightening up his footwork. I thought a lot

500
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Speaker 6: came those positives came from his mental sides slowed down

501
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 6: and understand the game better, and then that led to

502
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Speaker 6: him slowing everything else down. His footwork slows down, then

503
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Speaker 6: he's able to anticipate and throw. And I think that's

504
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Speaker 6: why it's encouraging with Anthony is that that play and

505
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Speaker 6: other plays that he throws, it's getting quicker. You don't

506
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Speaker 6: do that once you're anticipating, because it's the stuff just

507
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 6: happens too fast, even with his strong arm and being

508
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Speaker 6: able to do all those things.

509
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Speaker 7: I know it is a shorter throw and all that.

510
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Speaker 6: But it's just being able to do all those things physically.

511
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Speaker 6: It's the mental side has to let you access that

512
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Speaker 6: physical side. And I think that's what's cool is that

513
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Speaker 6: that's a perfect example. There's another play against a Jacks.

514
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Speaker 6: I loved he beat. He beat a blitz that the

515
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Speaker 6: Jaguars sent. I think actually Jaguars were kind of wrong

516
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 6: on it and that's why a guy came free and

517
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 6: he kind of you could see him start looking left

518
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Speaker 6: and recognize the blitz and then replace it for a

519
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Speaker 6: first down. I want to say it was like in

520
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Speaker 6: the first or second quarter there, so yes, yeah, it

521
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Speaker 6: was Josh downs to the right right slot about slamer

522
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Speaker 6: out third down, I got got him into the red zone.

523
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Speaker 6: I think, but that that a play like that and

524
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Speaker 6: that was correct me if I'm wrong, was the Jaguars

525
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Speaker 6: game Week one? So replacing blitzes and your first ever

526
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 6: NFL start is two thumbs up. Stuff like that, I

527
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Speaker 6: think should That's what I think some guys get associated

528
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Speaker 6: with that.

529
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Speaker 7: Strout CJ. Strout. Of course I.

530
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Speaker 6: Had a phenomenal season, But I think some guys get

531
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Speaker 6: type casted at oh he's a big athlete, Oh he

532
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Speaker 6: got hurt that way and everything, but all these little

533
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Speaker 6: things that he's doing, which is these are the things

534
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Speaker 6: that add up, and this is what is building the

535
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Speaker 6: path I think to good play.

536
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Speaker 7: I don't want to get ahead of my but I'm

537
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Speaker 7: very excited.

538
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Speaker 1: If you can't tell, I think this is such an

539
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: interesting discussion because you know, we all see we all

540
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: remember the highlights. You remember him hitting Aleck Pierce thirty

541
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Speaker 1: eight yards downfield with Aaron Donald wrapping him up. Yeah,

542
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Speaker 1: like just the like the insane throws, like you said,

543
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Speaker 1: the s tier throws, but like being a good quarterback,

544
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Speaker 1: you can only have a couple of those per game.

545
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Speaker 1: If you're one of the elite of the elite, you're

546
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Speaker 1: still gonna have twenty five thirty thirty five dropbacks in

547
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: a game that you have to do the little things

548
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Speaker 1: at like how do you balance the highlight? Oh my god,

549
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: he can make that throw versus the just those little

550
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: things where it looks easy. He replaces a blitzer, he

551
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: throws to the open guy. Just that natural quarterbacking feel

552
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: versus the elite playmaking ability he has.

553
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Speaker 6: I I would I'm a guy that kind of chases

554
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 6: the ceiling when I evaluate quarterbacks, and that I think

555
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Speaker 6: would if you just again just painted a picture what

556
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Speaker 6: Anthey Richardson is. Obviously that would just lead to me

557
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 6: why I liked him. But again, this is leading into

558
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 6: the nickel and diming, the hitting singles and doubles, getting

559
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 6: on base. That that again, that's why I think great

560
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 6: Anthony has kind of showed flashes of there's places where

561
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 6: he's checking the ball down within the rhythm of the offense,

562
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Speaker 6: and it's not him guessing for the checkdown. It's going, oh,

563
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 6: that's not open down the field and then checking it down.

564
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Speaker 6: There's always improvements you want to see, which just maybe

565
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 6: a half second quicker. But I think that's the thing

566
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Speaker 6: is when you got glimpses of three ish four games,

567
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Speaker 6: you know, so it's not like you get to see it, Oh,

568
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Speaker 6: week fourteen, we can see it in better. But I

569
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Speaker 6: think I'm early on in a guy's career before they

570
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Speaker 6: reach I would say fifty starts, and that's what that's

571
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Speaker 6: the number I always come back to.

572
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Speaker 7: So that's what that's about. What four seasons, three, three

573
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Speaker 7: seasons in.

574
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Speaker 6: That you can really start getting the like where that's

575
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Speaker 6: why I want to see the more. If that guy's

576
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Speaker 6: not nickel and diming, that guy's not hitting the singles

577
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 6: and doubles, that's where I would start to get worried.

578
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Speaker 6: This is not to bring him into this, but maybe

579
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Speaker 6: with Jalen Hurts, maybe sometimes I I'm a little lower

580
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 6: on him than others is because I still haven't seen

581
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 6: him being that higher efficiency along with the explosives. Even

582
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Speaker 6: if maybe some of the stats are there. I just

583
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 6: don't see it, but some of us down to down play.

584
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Speaker 6: But I think with that's what you want to see

585
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 6: the later. But I would rather see the high, high

586
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 6: end trades, the as tier throws, the point zero one

587
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 6: percent throws, because you can't teach those. You can't teach

588
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 6: that mindset, you can't teach that arm. I still think

589
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 6: the Rams Colts game last year was one of the

590
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 6: most fun games in the entire NFL season because of

591
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Speaker 6: what we saw those two quarterbacks do. And there's because

592
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Speaker 6: there's only a few guys that there's a lot of

593
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Speaker 6: good quarterbacks right now. I really do believe that, but

594
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Speaker 6: there's only a few guys that are throwing it like

595
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Speaker 6: that that that are able to achieve those throws, not

596
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Speaker 6: even try them. It's not really it's not the numerator

597
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 6: the top number, Oh, the guy did twice in the season.

598
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Speaker 6: It's how many times they can even try the denominator.

599
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Speaker 6: These guys are trying it five times a game, like

600
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Speaker 6: you said, four times a game. Other quarterbacks, that's once

601
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 6: every eight weeks. I played with Russell Wilson. Maybe he

602
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: doesn't throw like this, but he still had so many great,

603
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 6: great gifts when I backed him up, he could throw

604
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 6: things I would even fathom because I knew my limitations.

605
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: That's why I think is so cool with that. So

606
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 6: I getting back to your kind of original point, I'd

607
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 6: rather see that early on and then get to the

608
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 6: down to down play because I think that's more about

609
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 6: coaching system, confidence in the offense, confident and what the

610
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 6: scheme is, YadA YadA YadA. So I think sometimes that's

611
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 6: where I have a disconnected with maybe some talent evaluators,

612
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 6: where I think they see that the guys are more

613
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 6: polished and to go, oh, but that looks like an

614
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 6: NFL quarterback. It's like, well, yeah, but that's because it's

615
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 6: more teachable, because it's more about what's the system around

616
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 6: him and the offense around him and what he read

617
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 6: how he reads the game out. So I'd much rather

618
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 6: chase the high end stuff and then build of stuff

619
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Speaker 6: below him, because that's just so much harder to teach,

620
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 6: it's so much harder to achieve.

621
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Speaker 1: I think one of one of the bigger disappointments about

622
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's rookie season is that we didn't get to

623
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: see Shane Stiken evolve with Anthony in year one, we

624
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: saw we kind of saw it come to an end

625
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: obviously in week five. Where do you unite Tye think

626
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: Shaneestiken can evolved this offense now that there is film

627
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: on Anthony evolved this offense to continue to make it

628
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: a conducive environment for Anthony Richardson to be a quality,

629
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Speaker 1: if not better than that NFL quarterback.

630
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Speaker 6: Yeah, some of you know with stich In when he

631
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 6: was with I was just first off start, huge fan

632
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 6: of Stiking. I consider him one of the higher end

633
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 6: play cars in the entire NFL. I really do say that,

634
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 6: not just because I'm on the cold spot, but you

635
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 6: can hear me on a lot of pods where I

636
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 6: think he's top six if I had to rake him out.

637
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 7: But he's a little.

638
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 6: Different than what's kind of in vogue right now, which

639
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 6: is that not a lot of motion, not a lot

640
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 6: of shifting, a lot of same formations, same personnel groupings, preferences,

641
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 6: types of those things. I'm fine with it because actually

642
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 6: him and I kind of have some the same formation

643
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 6: or kind of offensive DNA.

644
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 7: He's a North Turner guy.

645
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 6: He's had a lot of offensive influences, but there's a

646
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 6: lot of North turner stuff to his offensive stuff, and

647
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 6: same with me.

648
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 7: So I recognize a lot what he does.

649
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 6: And what's kind of cool it is that it's a

650
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 6: lot of all answer concepts, meaning no matter what the

651
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 6: defense does, there's going to be an answer on the concept.

652
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 7: It's not so much a we're running this to.

653
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 6: Beat man only. This is yeah, this has an answer

654
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 6: to cover two man cover three puts a little more

655
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 6: on the quarterback because they have to get to the spot,

656
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Speaker 6: puts usual a little bit more on the protection because

657
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Speaker 6: you need time in those things. So what so some

658
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 6: of his features can seem like a buck So I

659
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 6: want to say that sometimes it will be frustrating when

660
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 6: you'll see at the stat maybe you'll see sometimes.

661
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Speaker 7: You're like, hey, maybe put a little bit more motion

662
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 7: on that. It's what the offense is.

663
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Speaker 6: So maybe maybe my whole point is what I want

664
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Speaker 6: to see is maybe sprinkle on maybe two more formations,

665
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Speaker 6: maybe just to kind of chase things up just a

666
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 6: little bit on it. But I'm not gonna tell a

667
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 6: guy that's I'm not in a place to tell Stike.

668
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 6: And I think he does great stuff and I recognize it.

669
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Speaker 6: I think it's very sound. So this is like a

670
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 6: long point of saying, it's like you're not really adding

671
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 6: much to whatever I think schematically, I think it would

672
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 6: be more of a coaching emphasis to Anthony Richards is

673
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Speaker 6: that you know, safe his body, which I think is

674
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 6: the obvious.

675
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 7: I think we all know that.

676
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 6: Don't take so many shots, and even some of the

677
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 6: shots he did take and the ones they got hurt on,

678
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 6: we're kind of freaky, you know, kind of just you know,

679
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Speaker 6: just he got hurt on a touchdown as he's like

680
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 6: flipping in like as he's a kind of quasi celebrating,

681
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Speaker 6: like you can't predict that. So I would say maybe

682
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Speaker 6: some of that, I would say, also just overall, it's

683
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 6: personnel too. I think some of this offensive system. I

684
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 6: think this where Ady Mitchell can thrive in an offense

685
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: like this that's gonna have him run a lot of

686
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: stuff that will look the same originally, like he will

687
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: have a nice kind of launch pad I think to

688
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 6: launch front. Because this offensive system and what an asks

689
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 6: of their receivers, he's probably gonna he's gonna have a

690
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 6: defined role. I think that's my best way is shorthand

691
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 6: it so kind of just an all encompassing thing here,

692
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 6: where I think the personnel's coming together. I think Stiken

693
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 6: he had to go with Garner Minshew last year because

694
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Speaker 6: of Richardson getting hurt, and it led to a heavy, heavy, heavy,

695
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 6: heavy RPO offense, which is good. And I think that's

696
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 6: what's cool is styke and can shift to that and

697
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Speaker 6: mold to that. So what I'm excited to see, I

698
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Speaker 6: don't know if I give you an answer at any

699
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 6: of this. This is my whole breakdown of the whole

700
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Speaker 6: thing is I'm pretty excited to see this offense. I

701
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 6: actually like they're a dark horse kind of top five

702
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: offense to me because I just think the personnel is

703
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 6: a little bit better. I liked with the offensive line improved.

704
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 6: I think Richardson's gon to improve by leafs and bounds,

705
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 6: and I like the receivers and the tight ends. I

706
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 6: think it's a fun combination. So and I like the scheme.

707
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Speaker 6: So long winded way to.

708
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Speaker 7: Say, like not much.

709
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Speaker 6: Really, I think I would like offer as an opinion,

710
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 6: if you want to get like nitpicky, maybe a little

711
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Speaker 6: bit more motion.

712
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 7: I would think that would just be it. But that's

713
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Speaker 7: just very very nitpicky stuff.

714
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Speaker 1: Explain to me, like I'm in fifth grade. Why Jonathan

715
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: Taylor and Anthony Richardson in a backfield coached by Shane

716
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: Steichen could be extremely difficult for opposing defenses to defend.

717
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Speaker 6: Because well, just look at the Richardson scoring those two

718
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 6: scores against the Texans.

719
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Speaker 7: Which was pretty fun.

720
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Speaker 6: I'm back to back plays, okay, And that was without

721
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Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor. That was before this whole offense was weaponized.

722
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 6: That felt like before anything. And that's when we just

723
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 6: saw those glimpses and it was like oh, and then

724
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 6: it just kind of got pulled out from others under us.

725
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 6: I think what's exciting about this pairing is it's not

726
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 6: a thunder and thunder. It's not a lightning and lightning.

727
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 6: It's two guys that are both explosive and have size.

728
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 6: Uh that's exciting because you don't have runs taken away

729
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: from you runs being like concept wise, they both they

730
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 6: can run a little bit of everything to go between

731
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Speaker 6: the tackles that can hit outside, so you can invert things.

732
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Speaker 6: You can have Taylor being the outside guy with Richardson

733
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Speaker 6: go in the middle after I just said he shouldn't

734
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: take so many shots. But just stick with me here.

735
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Speaker 6: This is just in theory. You know, if it's fourth

736
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 6: and one for the ball game, you can do it. Okay,

737
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: so but you know, but those types of things, Taylor

738
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 6: can go up the middle, jt can go up the middle,

739
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 6: Riches can go to the outside. Like that's their traits

740
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 6: unlock a lot of things. It opens up the entire menu.

741
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Speaker 6: And when you got a coach who I think is

742
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: phenomenal in the red zone because of just making everything

743
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: look the same but then having little tweaks like I

744
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 6: think that's what's so cool psych and just watching watch

745
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 6: the Colts offense inside the five yard line, I think

746
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 6: it's just very very cool that they'll run basically the

747
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 6: same play but then run like five different variations of

748
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 6: RPOs with there and that that's what the variety is.

749
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Speaker 6: But it messes with defenses, just that little twist. It's

750
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 6: easy on the offense, it's easy learning, but messes with defenses.

751
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: So if you're taking maybe these same runs, they can

752
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 6: spam the same run over and over. But because it's

753
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 6: a replay with Taylor and Richardson, it's just gonna affect

754
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 6: the defense over and over where no matter what they're

755
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 6: gonna guess wrong. I think that's just what I'm excited

756
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: for is that the whole menu is open, and it's

757
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 6: with a coach that knows how to use the whole menu.

758
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a guy that that's gone a cheesecake

759
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 6: factory once or twice. And he's like, he's like, Okay,

760
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 6: I know what I like. I know what I like,

761
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 6: I know the whole thing, I know one of every section.

762
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 7: I know what I like. But that's exactly what I'm

763
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 7: picturing this run game looking.

764
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Speaker 1: Like, give me as You've kind of dove into the

765
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: Colts and you know, we talk a lot about Richardson,

766
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Taylor stich In. Give me a guy on this team

767
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: who when you talk about the Colts nationally you bring

768
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: him up and maybe he doesn't have the national recognition

769
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Speaker 1: of those guys who you're you're like kind of pounding

770
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Speaker 1: the table for, like, Hey, this guy's really good. You

771
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: should keep an eye on this guy.

772
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Speaker 6: Oh boy, I've always been partial to Kylon Grantson, but

773
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 6: he's like, but he's a role player.

774
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 7: I know what he is. I think we all do.

775
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 7: That's one that I've always kind of just been like, Yeah,

776
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 7: that's that's a guy I've liked. I don't know Ady Mitchell.

777
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Speaker 6: I was very high on this draft process because I

778
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 6: just think he's a I know he hasn't stepped on

779
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 6: the NFL field yet, but I he has traits that again,

780
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 6: just like Richardson, they're hard to teach. Like they he

781
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 6: moves differently so and I think he's in a good

782
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 6: offensive ecosystem as far as coach, as far as the quarterback,

783
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Speaker 6: as far as his position coach, I think that matters

784
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 6: a lot, and that's what mattered a lot to him.

785
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 6: So like he's a guy that nationally I've been like,

786
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 6: I understand the risk reward of him, but I think

787
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 6: the reward is so great that I'm excited. And I

788
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 6: think because he ended up in a perfect landing spot

789
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 6: so other guys that maybe I'm like a little higher on.

790
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 6: I liked Evan Hole coming out in Northwestern. He got

791
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 6: hurt last year, but I really liked him, especially with

792
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 6: the Colts because of his balance with JT. Jonathan Taylor.

793
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 6: He's a great kind of three down back, is a

794
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: great protection back. He has great hands, great on screens.

795
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 6: He was like awesome at Northwestern on screenplays. I know

796
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 6: that's very niche but he was trust me, but I

797
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 6: really liked him. I end up become a pretty big

798
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 6: fan of him in the draft process. You know, I

799
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: think he went about I had a fourth round, Grady,

800
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 6: I'm going to fifth round. But that's someone that's kind

801
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 6: of like he's a fun role player that I you know,

802
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 6: got hurt. He got hurt last year, but I'm excited

803
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 6: to see if he can hit the field this year.

804
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 6: Just kind of carve out that role for him.

805
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Speaker 1: See, this is why I like having I like listening

806
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: to you talk about the Colts because a lot of

807
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: national folks will just be like, hey, you're the big

808
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: guys whatever you're talking about Kylon Grants and Evan Hall.

809
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: Evan Hall had one carry for six yards last year

810
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: or one catch for six yards. Like, but you're like,

811
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Speaker 1: I really like him coming out, Like you clearly do

812
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Speaker 1: your research.

813
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 7: I do. Yeah, I mean I know, and I know

814
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 7: stuff happened off the field.

815
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 6: But Drew Ogletree is another guy that flashed a lot

816
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 6: like when he's been on the field, So like, that's

817
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 6: that's another guy.

818
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 7: That's That's how the Colt's always have been for me.

819
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Speaker 6: It's just like they're like I they have a lot

820
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 6: of these guys, these role guys and that I really

821
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 6: like and these kind of like second tier guys. I

822
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 6: don't I mean this as a compliment, but no, I

823
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 6: I really like it.

824
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: This is a team that's got like fourteen or fifteen

825
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: of our games are one pm games. So like we're

826
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: the League Pass team, right, like the Ultimate, the Ultimate

827
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: League Pass.

828
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 7: The multiview.

829
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 6: Now that YouTube TV multiview which has been an absolute

830
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: game changer. I am not sponsored by that, but I

831
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 6: would just yeah, just an absolute life changer is YouTube TV.

832
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Uh Nate, I want to get you out of here

833
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: on this. And I've asked a couple of folks this

834
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: when I've had him on the podcast. What's one narrative

835
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: about offensive football that kind of is accepted as fact

836
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: that makes you feel like you're taking crazy pills?

837
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 7: That interceptions are bad, that all interceptions.

838
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: Are like the same, like that that would be the

839
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 6: second line there is actually what I mean, All interceptions

840
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 6: are the same, And I feel like we're watching all

841
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: these interceptions happen and then we just act like it

842
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 6: just people would just ignore what's literally happening right in

843
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 6: front of our face, depending on their argument.

844
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 7: I understand why it happens.

845
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 6: But there's a lot of times where I feel like

846
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 6: I go insane that that would be one. That interceptions,

847
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 6: that all these interceptions are exactly the same. And that's

848
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 6: why it's like, oh, two years ago, as the Dak

849
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 6: Prescott thing, He's throwing all these interceptions, all this and

850
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 6: then if you watch it one after another, it's like tipball, tipball, tipball,

851
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 6: you know, offensive player dropping it and they go flying

852
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 6: in the air. Like So it's just those types of things.

853
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 6: I would say, that's one. Now you're gonna have my

854
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 6: you know, brain cycling on this one a lot because

855
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: I do.

856
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: That sounded like a commentary. That sounded like a commentary

857
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence to me, is what you just.

858
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Speaker 6: Oh that was another Oh yes, oh people are just

859
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: like a turnovers. Yeah, that's another thing too, just yeah,

860
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 6: that's yeah. There's a completion percentage is another one. Offensive

861
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 6: quarterback stats maybe is not the end all be all.

862
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 7: And I know, even.

863
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 6: Even some of the efficiency and you know, as we've

864
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Speaker 6: gone advanced ads with success rate and and EPA and

865
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: all those types of things, expected points added, even those

866
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: you have to take with the grain of salt, like

867
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: you just that's all you have to We have to

868
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 6: combine it. It's puzzle pieces we combined with we're watching.

869
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 6: So yeah, turnovers, all turnovers are the same as it

870
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Speaker 6: drives me nuts. People will get in arguments about completion

871
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 6: percentage with me so and so through for seventy two

872
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 6: or Anthony Richardson is actually the best, like like this

873
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 6: was my number one example of this, even when he's

874
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 6: at Florida, Everyone's just bringing up completion percentage me and

875
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, but he's throwing it forty yards

876
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 6: down the field. That like, those aren't going to be

877
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 6: high completion throws like you other guys throwing at two yards.

878
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 6: That that's why it's different. So yeah, thank you for

879
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 6: me going a rant. I was, I was trying to

880
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: be all nice and sweet.

881
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 7: And now no, I like like that Tom rambling like

882
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 7: a madman.

883
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: What So if you're if you're advising people on stats

884
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: to take seriously for quarterbacks, does it very quarterback to

885
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: quarterback or like what what do you look at as

886
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: a it's not gonna be an end all, be all right,

887
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be like a just give me like

888
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: a like a sledgehammer of this guy's good or not statistics, straight.

889
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 7: Straight drop backs, so no play actions.

890
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 6: So it's like just if you have the advanced filters,

891
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 6: you can do this' SI sports INFUS solutions, you can

892
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: probably just on this there. Straight drop backs, so no

893
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 6: play action, no RPO, straight drop back success rate that is.

894
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 7: That is that's the one I could.

895
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 6: Usually you can kind of filter out something there's still

896
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 6: gonna be noise in there just because of a T

897
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 6: and you have to boost up how many attempts they

898
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 6: have and how many drop backs they have to that one,

899
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 6: because that is a quarterback operating like a quarterback like

900
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 6: how we think it. That is him getting the ball,

901
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 6: dropping straight back, reading the whole playout and firing and

902
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 6: over there making DECI decisions, pushing the ball, firing for

903
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 6: first downs. Because success rate is not just gonna be yards.

904
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 6: So if you get twelve yards on third and eighteen

905
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 6: not successful, but if you get eight yards on first

906
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 6: and ten successful, and so that is that's what I

907
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 6: kind of look at. I would say the best example

908
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 6: of that would be justin Herbert against the Vikings this

909
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 6: last year. Brian Forres, a defense coordinator, kind of doesn't

910
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: let you do play action, kind of doesn't let you

911
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 6: do a lot of things. You have to kind of

912
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 6: be a real quarterback against him. So that's why good

913
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 6: quarterbacks did good against them.

914
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 7: Bad ones didn't.

915
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 6: And watching Justin Herbert against that defense last year was like,

916
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 6: that's what I mean.

917
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 7: It's like, that's the stat and that's because.

918
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 6: All we do is dropped straight back and fire the

919
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 6: pickskin all over the yard. And that's what again, tied

920
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 6: it all back. That's what Richard Singe could do. And

921
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 6: that's what I'm excited about. That's why he is very

922
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 6: more more real than people are making them out to me,

923
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 6: and I think people are going to get exposed to

924
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 6: that this year.

925
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Well, that is a great end to Nate. What has

926
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: been a really fun conversation with you here talking Colts

927
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: in the Official Colts Podcast. You can follow all Nate's

928
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: work on Twitter at Nate Underscore Tice and read him

929
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: and watch him and listen to him on Yahoo Sports. Nate,

930
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: thank you so much again for taking the time here.

931
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

932
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: Ton of fun, always wonderful insight right there from Nate Tice,

933
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: Yahoo's Sports.

934
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: He might be up at training camp a couple of days.

935
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: He and I asked him after he's not able to

936
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: make it out too, which because like he would just

937
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: be I feel like, like the way that he consumes

938
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: Colts film, he would just be like squealing most of

939
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: the time when he would just watch like whatever play

940
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: is coming in and Anthony getting back there in the pocket.

941
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: I just think you would just hear like like squeals.

942
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: Be fun.

943
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 5: It would be fun to have him seated next to Rick,

944
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: because Rick's always dialed.

945
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 3: In on the defense, right like Rick defense. I'm so

946
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: if you had Nate going.

947
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: Like just a lot of was that a snort? Run

948
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: that back again?

949
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: I think the the biggest thing that I took away

950
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: is just like it's good to from a national analyst

951
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: about like the little things that Anthony does and then

952
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: know Nate said in that interview, like he hit, he

953
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: looks for the ceiling, those like those s tier throws

954
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: that he talked about that not many quarterbacks can even

955
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: attempt that Anthony can can get to. But just like

956
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: those little things that how Anthony Richardson plays quarterback, like

957
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: I think nationally, I just sort of assume if you

958
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: don't watch him every day, you're sort of like, yeah,

959
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: he can run and he's got a strong arm. But

960
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: if you actually watch Anthony richards In play, he's got

961
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: great pocket feel. He makes good decisions, right. He is

962
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: a better quarterback then I think people give him credit for.

963
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: And it's good to hear someone else who maybe isn't

964
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: as around him as much as we are share that opinion.

965
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: And hopefully the common fan this year understands more of

966
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: that based on the way that Richardson plays.

967
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: And I think part of the reason for that too

968
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 5: is at the point when he got injured, you really

969
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 5: had only started to see them really peel open that

970
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 5: playbook too. You had not gotten into the depths of

971
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: what he's capable of, because he was really just starting

972
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: to like find that Caydence, find his groove, find his

973
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: stride within the offense using the guys who he has

974
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 5: around him, because he had never been surrounded by this

975
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: type of talent right in his career ever, which that's

976
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: you know, common for a lot of quarterbacks coming out

977
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: of college, with the exception of really a handful of

978
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: guys who have NFL draft talent at every level of

979
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 5: their collegiate rosters.

980
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Right, here's a great quarterback that I wasn't sure that derisively,

981
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: but like there's a difference there.

982
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 5: I understand that people might not be understanding the comprehension

983
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: of it because there's truly so much unknown because it

984
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 5: was that sample size of man, this is really impressive.

985
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: What he's able to do.

986
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 5: But this is we were just starting to get into

987
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 5: scratching the surface of what Shane Steichen's playbook entails and

988
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: what he can equip Anthony Richardson with.

989
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: I have been listening to some some podcasts, just some

990
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: like national podcasts lately that have been like Anthony Richardson's

991
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: a dark horse MVP candidate, and you know, the Colts

992
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: are kind of this dark horse offense to be top

993
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: five in the league. One interesting point though that I

994
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: heard this is from Aaron Shotz, who does He did

995
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders, DVAA, all that stuff. He was on I

996
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: think it was Kevin Clark's podcast, and he sort of

997
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: made a mention of like, the Colts will go as

998
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: far as Anthony Richardson takes them, but like his development,

999
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: it's not like you can just snap your fingers and

1000
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: immediately expect him to be this great quarterback. It probably

1001
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: will take some time because he is effectively a rookie

1002
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: in terms of his experience. So, like, while we're all

1003
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: excited and hyped about what Anthony Richardson can be, there

1004
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: is going to be a developmental curve that he's going

1005
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: to have to follow and navigate. That's something to just

1006
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: keep in mind, even as we are super excited about

1007
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: the kind of player he can be, the kind of

1008
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: offense that the Colts can be. Yeah, there probably still

1009
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: will be some bumps in the road because he's only

1010
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: started what four games in the NFL.

1011
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: Four games.

1012
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's played seventeen games past high school. He played

1013
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy three snaps last year. But in

1014
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: those one hundred and seventy three snaps, he accounted for

1015
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: seven touchdowns.

1016
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: Like, that's what she just gives you.

1017
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 4: What should just literally keep you on the edge of

1018
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: your seat as you watch these games next year for

1019
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: the Colts.

1020
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: All Right, we're going to talk.

1021
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: About a handful of other offensive issues or topics before

1022
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 4: we wrap this thing up and then get you onto

1023
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: training camp again. Report day is on Wednesday, So that's

1024
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: tomorrow based on when you are listening in or watching

1025
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: this year podcast. All right, I am really eager to

1026
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 4: see how this whole thing shakes out with ad Ni Mitchell,

1027
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: Ady Mitchell and Alec Pierce. Is there a battle between

1028
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: those two guys for wide receiver spot number two and

1029
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 4: what is the role what do you see as the

1030
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 4: max potential or ceiling for Mitchell as a rookie.

1031
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, yeah, there is a battle. Like

1032
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: that's not just going to be handed to Adie Mitchell.

1033
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce played ninety eight percent of the Colt snaps

1034
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy last year. Yeah, as kind of the X

1035
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: receiver in this offense. So and Adie Mitchell's gonna have

1036
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: to earn it. If he's going to be a weapon

1037
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: in this offense, He's gonna have to earn it by

1038
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: competing with Alec Pearce. And also Alec Pierce is not

1039
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: going to give that up like easily. Yeah, I think

1040
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: he's going to come in this very motivated. We heard

1041
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: a lot of really positive things from Chris Ballard just

1042
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: about how Alec kind of handled the struggles of last

1043
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: year just with his mentality. But for Ady Mitchell, like

1044
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: we just talked about red zone, the way that this

1045
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: guy moves at six two two oh five and the

1046
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: hands that he has. That's just like instant you see,

1047
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: an instant red zone weapon for me. Like the things

1048
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: he can do in that shorter area of the field,

1049
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: or the way that he gets out of his brakes

1050
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: and the way that he can you know, accelerate away

1051
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: from a defensive back are really exciting. Obviously down the field,

1052
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: that's another threat that he has, you know, in an offense,

1053
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll try to push the ball downfield a

1054
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: little bit more than they were able to last year.

1055
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: You know, I like ceiling wise, it's tough to put

1056
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: like a number on it, sure, but you know, if

1057
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: you're looking at you know, a really high yards per

1058
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: reception average and a good amount of touchdowns which I

1059
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: would say probably six seven eight. Wow, that's a really

1060
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: good yeah.

1061
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 7: Really good year.

1062
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see really healthy competition between those guys.

1063
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 5: I think they're going to help bring out the best

1064
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 5: in one another and give Anthony Richardson the most options,

1065
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 5: just more options, you know, more opportunities within the receiving game,

1066
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 5: especially you know, downfield, explosive places, all of that, and

1067
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 5: in just watching guys around the building, Alec Pearce was

1068
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: one of the most present guys around the building, like

1069
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 5: over the course of you know, the weeks that they

1070
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 5: have had and all of that, and he just he

1071
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: has looked bigger to me too, it looks like if

1072
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: he is put on you know a little bit of

1073
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 5: like healthy muscle with that, and just thinking about too,

1074
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 5: what it will do for him in these last two years,

1075
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: think about the rotation of different quarterbacks who he has

1076
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 5: been alongside, like that's that is and he's still been

1077
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: able to you know, be a threat. But it's just

1078
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 5: you know, it's Matt Ryan to.

1079
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, I mean well and a lot of quarterbacks

1080
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: who did not have the willingness or ability to throw

1081
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: the ball.

1082
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: Down and that's what it does. Yeah, that's that's so true.

1083
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 5: And with that, think about just point to the Tennessee

1084
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: game and what he did in that game, you know,

1085
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 5: in Nashville last year with Gardner Minshew, who doesn't have

1086
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 5: near the arm velocity of an Anthony Richardson. Obviously, like

1087
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: Gardner won games for the Colts and is a really

1088
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: strong quarterback, you know, obviously competing for a starting position

1089
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 5: now in Vegas. But when you see Alec being that

1090
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 5: downfield threat, being you know, an explosive weapon in the

1091
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: passing game with Gardner, I think that you should be

1092
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 5: really excited for insert Anthony Richardson as that quarterback and

1093
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 5: then see the position that that puts Alec Pierson because

1094
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: when he, you know it, gets those shots, he has

1095
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 5: you know, a good ratio, good percentage of coming up.

1096
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: With the Other thing is I don't think it has

1097
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: to be this binary. It's not one or other. Yes,

1098
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: like a or person and Ady Mitchell can absolutely share time.

1099
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: Coexists as in, you know, the the primary X receiver

1100
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: in this offense. You could have plays where you got

1101
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: a D in the slot. You can do different things.

1102
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: I think that that was something that showed up last

1103
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: year with this Colt's Receiver corps is that they felt

1104
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: good about their top three with Pittman, Piers and Downs,

1105
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: but without Ashton Dulin and then without kind of another

1106
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: established guy down there, it did get thin after those

1107
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: top three gods. And I think this year you go

1108
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: in with Ashton Dulan again, but now you got Ady

1109
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Mitchell Anthony Gould as a guy you could potentially be

1110
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: a weapon as well. I think you have a better

1111
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: group of a better you have better depth sure there

1112
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: that you can tap into, so you maybe don't have

1113
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: to have your starting X receiver play ninety eight percent

1114
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: of the snaps.

1115
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: Also, the pure reliability of Alec Pierce that he has

1116
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 5: proven over these last two years, and typically like receivers

1117
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 5: can be somewhat volatable in those first two years with

1118
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 5: injury and all of that, and he has withstood so

1119
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 5: much just I purely being available through the course of

1120
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 5: twenty two and twenty.

1121
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: Three, I mean over now last year, there's no questioning

1122
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: AP's toughness like that, that dude is He's going to

1123
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: show up and he's gonna be ready to play every

1124
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: single game.

1125
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking being ready to play, these tight ends have

1126
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 4: to be ready to play, ready to go and start

1127
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 4: to kind of out duel one another at the beginning

1128
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 4: of camp right away, because I'm doing the roster construction

1129
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 4: going into camp here. As Lara said, there's so much

1130
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: familiar familiarity and continuity coming back from last year to

1131
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: this year that I'm not saying, like you can fill

1132
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 4: out the roster now, but you got pretty good idea

1133
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: at a lot of positions. But with tight end JJ,

1134
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 4: there's five guys right now that I'm having a hard

1135
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: time figuring out who's going to make that position? And

1136
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: dare I say the Colts keep four maybe five tight

1137
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: ends there?

1138
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: I think there's very much a scenario where they could

1139
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: keep five.

1140
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 4: I mean, that would be unheard of in terms of

1141
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: you know, other NFL teams in the last decade plus, right, but.

1142
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: You know, I mean it would take everyone earning it.

1143
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: But the I think the really interesting thing about that

1144
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: tight end room is that you know, there isn't a

1145
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: guy who you look at and you say, like, that

1146
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: guy's on the roster right now. I think you know,

1147
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Moeli Cox who's got

1148
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: the blocking ability, and uh, you know, I think I

1149
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: believe he's in the last year of the contract extension

1150
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: that he signed a couple of years ago. You're probably like, Okay,

1151
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Mose on the team. But beyond that, you

1152
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys who you've invested draft capital

1153
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: in but who haven't totally proven themselves in the NFL.

1154
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: You've seen flashes all on rookie deals, right, all on

1155
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: rookie deals. You've seen flashes for Colin Grants and Jelannie Woods,

1156
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: Drew Ogletree, Will Mallory, but you haven't seen anything consistently yet,

1157
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: so that creates a really interesting competition there. I think

1158
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: there there absolutely is a scenario where all five earned

1159
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: their way onto the roster.

1160
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: The rest of the rosster would have to be really

1161
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 4: healthy in order to keep five tight end.

1162
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: So and this kind of feeds into another competition. But

1163
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: a backup running back. I don't know if you if

1164
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 1: you're going to keep more than three running back three

1165
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: and if you keep three running backs two quarterbacks, that

1166
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: then opens you up to potential to keep you flexibility,

1167
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: but then specialty to go into it. Sure, you know

1168
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: we've seen a handful of those guys play on teams before,

1169
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: but that that's totally wide open. And then Jolanni Woods

1170
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: is the big wild card in the Apple thing.

1171
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 5: Who is the guy or who are the guys that

1172
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 5: are the best fit for Anthony Richardson at that position.

1173
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: I think that's what's really interesting too, is you saw

1174
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 5: so much play and so much for rotation last season

1175
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 5: between all of these guys with Gardner, and then you know,

1176
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 5: you saw early in the part of the season a

1177
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: few of those guys with big flashes, especially you know,

1178
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 5: guys like Jilannie and Drew with what they were able

1179
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 5: to do and show are sorry not Jelanni because of

1180
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 5: the injury, so not Johnny, but you know Drew in particular,

1181
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 5: Moe in particular. So now it's kind of like everyone

1182
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 5: likes to draw just because of Shane's ties to Philly,

1183
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 5: like that Dallas Goddard right, like what that offense looked

1184
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 5: like with him at that position. Who becomes and emerges

1185
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 5: that go to guy because of the skill set and

1186
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 5: the characteristics and the look within this offense. I think

1187
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 5: that's one of the things that's really intriguing too. It's

1188
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 5: almost like a blank slate I think across the board,

1189
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: yeah for which one. So it isn't really necessarily like,

1190
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 5: oh yeah, you going into it, you think this or

1191
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: you think that. I think it's very open because you

1192
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 5: are going to have to see exactly what the vision

1193
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 5: of implementing these guys is with Anthony in this system.

1194
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of guys who I

1195
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: wish we could have seen Anthony's chemistry grow with last year,

1196
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: But that little peak we got into what he can

1197
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 1: do with Kylon Granson, you know, just like you see

1198
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: something what game was that? I think there's there's a

1199
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: throw in the Rams game. I want to say that, yeah, yeah,

1200
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: he's a fourth down that he hit Granson for a

1201
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: big game that's set up, I believe the game tying touchdown,

1202
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: and it's just like god Like, I kind of feel

1203
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: like with his speed on some of those crossers, he's

1204
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: able to run. I love the idea of grantson there,

1205
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: even thinking back to that Titans game where they kind

1206
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: of ran that the Colts ran that razzle dazzle play

1207
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: in Tennessee and it was kind of that throwback that

1208
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: hit Granson, Like, get Anthony on some of those throws

1209
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: that could be that could be really fascinating. And you know,

1210
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: kyleon Grandson's been the Colt's most productive tight end over

1211
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But you're looking at thirty

1212
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: catches a couple hundred yards a touchdown. You know, it's

1213
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: not like you're you're hitting that like that where you

1214
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: look at it and you say, that's a go to guy.

1215
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah this offense.

1216
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 4: The last big season from a Colts tight end was

1217
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 4: Jack Doyle in twenty twenty one. I mean, I can't

1218
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: remember a tight end having a substantial year in terms

1219
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 4: of production.

1220
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Bron Well, you know, Doyle.

1221
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, and do Doyle at twenty twenty maybe with Doyle.

1222
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have twenty one. Doyle was still he

1223
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: was such a good player that year. But like the

1224
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: I have, I have such like a soft spot for

1225
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, Well who does? Like I mean, who doesn't, right,

1226
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: but when I kind of I only had one year

1227
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: of him here in Indy before he retired, and that

1228
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: one year I remember watching how he was blocking on

1229
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: some of the run plays the Colts got to that

1230
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: year because of Jack Doyle, sure, and just being like

1231
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: my god, this guy's awesome. Yeah enough watch it.

1232
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly Johnson Taylor had big year partly because of

1233
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 4: Jack Doyle's buy in there. But yeah, I mean to

1234
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 4: put a bow in that conversation, the Colts are going

1235
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 4: to go heavy three tight ends in terms of formations

1236
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: a lot this year, So you've got that to factor in. Plus, now,

1237
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 4: how do some of those guys factor in if they

1238
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 4: make the team and you keep four or five tight ends?

1239
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 4: How does that factor into special teams? So you guys

1240
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 4: have to contribute, you know, where can they factor in

1241
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 4: with covering punts, covering the kicks with the new kickoff rule?

1242
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: Special teams? I mean, that's another aspect of it of like,

1243
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: how does the new kickoff rule impact your roster construction?

1244
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: Sure kind of touched on last week, but you know,

1245
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: if you're looking at guys on kick returns, who Okay,

1246
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: it's basically a play, you probably want your best tacklers

1247
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: on the field, and those aren't always going to come

1248
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: from the offensive side of the ball.

1249
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: You might see a lot of defensive starters out there. Yeah. Right,

1250
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: To be honest with.

1251
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 4: You, I think you know it's going to evolve and

1252
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 4: different teams are going to have a feeling out process

1253
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: with that. But I think to begin with, you might

1254
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 4: see some starting linebackers or backup linebackers out there covering

1255
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 4: those kicks and short proximity with the new rules.

1256
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: There.

1257
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 4: All right, you guys did this last week on the defense.

1258
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 4: Let's do this to close out on the offense. Give

1259
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 4: me a veteran that we're not talking enough about.

1260
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: Give me a.

1261
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 4: Veteran that maybe is a little underappreciated JJ going into

1262
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: training camp that you're going to be always having your

1263
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 4: eye on.

1264
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: This is where I wanted to talk about Michael Pittman Junior. Right,

1265
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: Like earlier in the podcast, I wanted to talk about

1266
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: him here because there's not much new with Michael Pittman Junior.

1267
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: On the field. We know he is a really accomplished

1268
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He's got great hands, he's incredibly reliable. I

1269
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: think there's maybe a little more he can get to

1270
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: in terms of being a deep threat with an offense

1271
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: that will push it downfield a little bit more. But

1272
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: training camp, Michael Pittman is like one of my favorite

1273
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: players because this dude doesn't take crap from anyone. He's

1274
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: going to start I remember, like last year pitt told

1275
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: us when he was on the podcast that you know,

1276
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: Reggie was going through the training camp schedule. Reggie Wayne

1277
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: the wide receivers coach obviously, and he was like, all right,

1278
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: and then we got the Bears coming in for joint practices,

1279
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: so we know Pitt's going to start a fight then

1280
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: and just kind of like set it matter of factly,

1281
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: and you know, kept moving on. But like that enforce

1282
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: it that that Michael Pittman Junior has has kind of

1283
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: embodied over the last couple of years coming from a

1284
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver, like this dude blocks his butt off on

1285
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: running plays. He is He's not gonna let you beat

1286
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: up one of his teammates in terms of, you know,

1287
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: maybe playing a little bit after the whistle, like he's

1288
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: not going to stand for any of that. And then

1289
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: for for all, this coming from your most productive pass

1290
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: catcher is really impressive, and I think it sets a

1291
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: really good tone for this team that they're not going

1292
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: to be out physicaled on that side of the ball.

1293
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: The offensive line obviously will set that tone in the trenches,

1294
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: but everywhere else. For Michael Pittman to do this, it's like,

1295
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: all right, everyone, you got to get to his level

1296
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: of physicality and then that, you know, the offensive line

1297
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 1: loves seeing Michael Pittman Junior blocking the way that he does.

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Speaker 1: If you're a tight end, hey, if Pitt's doing that,

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta match that. Yeah, you know, a

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Speaker 1: running back Jonathan Taylor loves seeing Michael Pittman out there

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Speaker 1: on the edge block And for I'm like, he's such

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Speaker 1: an important part of this offense, not just for what

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Speaker 1: he does as a pass catcher, right and during training camp,

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Speaker 1: I love the tone that he sets.

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Speaker 4: That's why, I mean, everybody during the free agency period

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Speaker 4: with him getting franchise, tag Laria was like, is he

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Speaker 4: had number one.

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Speaker 2: Is he worth it? He's worth it to this team.

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Speaker 4: He is this team's number one because he has more value,

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Speaker 4: I think, to the Colts than maybe any other team

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Speaker 4: because of all the details and the little things that

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Speaker 4: he does that JJ chronicled, all right, appreciation tweet time

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Speaker 4: from Lara, who's your vet?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's the entire offensive line for one, but central

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Speaker 5: to that is Ryan Kelly anchoring that entire unit.

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Speaker 3: He is the longest tenured Colt.

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Speaker 5: He is all the recognition a lot of times goes

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Speaker 5: to Quentin Nelson because he is so phenomenal what he

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Speaker 5: does rightfully so, but truly Ryan is like the heart

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Speaker 5: and soul of that offensive line, and this offense is

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Speaker 5: going to go as far as this offensive line sets

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Speaker 5: them up for success to go both you know, with

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Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson and also with Jonathan Taylor run game, pass game,

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Speaker 5: it's all running through that group in particular, you know,

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Speaker 5: Ryan Kelly being the guy to set Anthony Richardson up

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Speaker 5: in what is a critical second year kind of this

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Speaker 5: extension of his rookie year. And yeah, it's it's that

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Speaker 5: group for me because I think that there are a

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Speaker 5: lot of you know, a lot of the guys who

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Speaker 5: get the flash right and rightfully so, who are going

1331
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Speaker 5: to put on those spectacular plays and the offensive line

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Speaker 5: never seeks out that type of attention. But when you

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Speaker 5: do have an offense that's looking to take those strides

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Speaker 5: that it is looking to and needs to this year

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Speaker 5: under you know the leadership of Shansdeiken. You know with

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Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson, expectations that are there with the off season.

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Speaker 5: You know that Michael Pittman Junior had getting that extension.

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Speaker 5: With what's there for Jonathan Taylor, right, and what the

1339
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 5: expectations are this is you don't want to necessarily it's

1340
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Speaker 5: not like an approve it year, But when you think

1341
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Speaker 5: about last year, you know, you get the contract done,

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Speaker 5: he battled through injuries and that now it's okay, like

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Speaker 5: let's not miss time. This is you should be returning

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Speaker 5: to that twenty twenty two type of form for a

1345
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor, right, that's the bar that he has to achieve.

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Speaker 5: All of those things happen and should happen because of

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Speaker 5: the five guys.

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Speaker 3: Right there upfront in that all centers with Ryan Kelly.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things, because I think this is such

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Speaker 1: a good point. You see a lot of teams go

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Speaker 1: this route with young quarterbacks where you want to have

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Speaker 1: a veteran center.

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Speaker 2: Yes, in there.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers when they adjusted Herbert, they immediately went out

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Speaker 1: and got Corey Linsley from the Packers to go in there,

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Speaker 1: because there's so much that's getting thrown at you as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in terms of disguised blitzes, disguised coverages, you know,

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Speaker 1: how do you id the mic on this certain play

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Speaker 1: and all that, and to have Ryan Kelly be able

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Speaker 1: to just be in there, Hey, I've played more games.

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Speaker 5: Nothing he hasn't seen, right, and nothing that he hasn't

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Speaker 5: seen with an array of quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Yes right, nine of them? Yeah, so at least yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: probably more. I mean there is nothing that Ryan Kelly

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Speaker 1: is going to be surprised by. Yeah, in terms of

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Speaker 1: what is getting thrown at the Colts from the opposing defense.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I just want to touch on, because

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Speaker 1: this is an offensive training camp, Prieve, we should probably

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Jonathan Taylor. Expectations for him

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Speaker 1: internally are really high. Sure they are really high as

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Speaker 1: well they should be with the contract extension he got

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Speaker 1: last year and the type of player the Colts know

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Speaker 1: he is.

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Speaker 2: And what he did in Week eighteen last year.

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Speaker 5: Well, see, I want to say, so this was set

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Speaker 5: up as who's the veteran that maybe there aren't questions

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Speaker 5: are intrigue about the one, and I feel like there's

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Speaker 5: a lot of intrigue about him. That's why I would

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Speaker 5: kind of like leave that because I just there's tons

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Speaker 5: of intrigue about him. But I think that, like the

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 5: offensive line is something that like we take for granted

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Speaker 5: that you don't have to worry about it, right because

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Speaker 5: of that unit what they have done. You know, we've

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Speaker 5: talked so much about continuity, like you know, ad nauseum,

1385
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Speaker 5: but man, how much that means they're upfront with that

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Speaker 5: core group.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of what it was is.

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Speaker 5: You know, if things go well, we shouldn't be talking

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Speaker 5: about the offensive line after this point.

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Speaker 3: So this is the time to do it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, with JT that game in Week eighteen

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Speaker 1: last year, it was his second game with thirty carries

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Speaker 1: in which he averaged over six yards per attempt. There's

1394
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: only one other player to have multiple games to hit

1395
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: those marks thirty carries six plus yards per attempt the

1396
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Speaker 1: last four seasons. It's Derrick Henry over the last uh see,

1397
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: since two thousand, there have only been ten players to

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01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: hit that ye in multiple games. Adrian Peterson, Derrick Henry,

1399
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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, Marshall Fulk, Mike Anderson, Priest Home Sewn Alexander,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Lewis, Le'Veon Bell, Derrick Henry, and Jonathan Taylor.

1401
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 2: There it is there. It is keep the hype going.

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01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 3: As Priest Holmes too. But man, remember that guy.

1403
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: It was awesome Like that was again Shawn Alexander and

1404
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: the key Yeah, impact on special teams too.

1405
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Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about there going into the season,

1406
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 4: and that's what it is, is keep the positivity going

1407
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 4: because the last you know image for a lot of

1408
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 4: people before training camp is the twenty three to nineteen setback,

1409
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 4: the winning your in game, know, lose at home to

1410
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 4: the Houston Texans, the rivalry there and ever since then.

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Speaker 4: You know, Anthony Richardson coming back, he's healthy, a really

1412
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: successful spring by this team. He's healthy starting training camp, Like,

1413
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Speaker 4: just keep the positivity going and feel great about this

1414
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: team and the cores and the continuity and all the

1415
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Speaker 4: starters coming back, all Evan on offense, all Evan on defense,

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 4: all five offensive linemen coming back, Like, there's just a

1417
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 4: lot of things to feel good about this team going

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Speaker 4: into the season.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm so eager.

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Speaker 1: For training camp as well as Shane Steichen sure sure

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Speaker 1: him being the head coach and play caller of this team,

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Speaker 1: I think you should feel really really good about going

1423
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Speaker 1: into the going into your team.

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Speaker 5: And for him not to go into it with a

1425
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 5: question of who is going to be my starting quarterback?

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Speaker 5: What am I going to get out of this? You

1427
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 5: know quarterback? Am I going to have Jonathan Taylor? Or

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 5: am I not going to have Jonathan Taylor?

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Speaker 2: It was of a blank show last year in August,

1430
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Speaker 2: just being honest.

1431
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Speaker 5: Show, right and hey, like, yeah, I really like Michael Pittman,

1432
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Speaker 5: But what is this look like depending on who my

1433
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 5: you know quarterback?

1434
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Speaker 3: Is that position?

1435
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: You haven't Josh down?

1436
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of it.

1437
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.

1438
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 4: Let's just get it out there so it happens no

1439
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: major injuries in the.

1440
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Speaker 2: Month of August.

1441
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Speaker 4: Hopefully we're not talking about things that you know, we're

1442
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: not talking about timelines and six to eight weeks it

1443
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: might be back for week one. Let's let's have a

1444
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 4: smooth all things considered uneventful productive training camp, so really

1445
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 4: really looking forward to it. Those are our parting shots

1446
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 4: with JJ Lera. I'm Matt Taylor. As we said, we

1447
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: are coming at you fast and furious. Starting this week,

1448
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Speaker 4: we got the podcast coming out on Tuesday, that's what

1449
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 4: you're watching and listening to here. And then starting next

1450
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 4: week podcast Tuesday. We got Inside Football with Rick Venturi

1451
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: on Wednesday, and then the two Minute Drill podcasts on Thursday.

1452
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 4: So boom boom boom football everywhere, And just going.

1453
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Speaker 3: Back to the beginning of the show.

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Speaker 5: Something that like I really look forward to about campus

1455
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 5: this is the opportunity that we get to kind of

1456
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 5: be embedded with the fans a little bit, because you know,

1457
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: on game day we're down on the field or up

1458
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 5: in the press boxer. Now we're with you guys, right

1459
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 5: like we're kind of right on the field. I love

1460
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 5: getting the energy from the fans, seeing everyone who shows

1461
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 5: up to watch practice, to hang out, to see players,

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Speaker 5: all of that. I think that's one of the things

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Speaker 5: that like truly like I feed off of that energy

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Speaker 5: that takes me basically.

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Speaker 3: To the bye week, right, Like all of that that

1466
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Speaker 3: you soak in.

1467
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Speaker 1: During trade a lot of energy because that's week so

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Speaker 1: much so, by the way, let's let's give you a

1469
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Speaker 1: shout out. You're gonna be on NFL Network. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the weekend Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Looking forward to it? Yes, how great is that? A

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Speaker 5: couple of Hoosiers, you might you might get some EU references.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure try to keep it under five on the

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Speaker 5: full day of coverage. But yeah, back together. Weekend happening

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Speaker 5: across the league. This is something that's really neat. If

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Speaker 5: you're watching NFL Network on Saturday and on Sunday, there

1477
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Speaker 5: will be dropping into each and every camp across the league.

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Speaker 3: But on Sunday, Ret Lewis will be out there live

1479
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 3: throughout the day.

1480
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Speaker 5: All hop on and we'll talk some football and talk

1481
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 5: about what we're looking forward to. And the great thing

1482
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 5: is by that point we will have had both those

1483
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Speaker 5: practices Thursday Saturday and then the Sunday practice, which is

1484
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Speaker 5: one of those evening practices. So when we're doing those

1485
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Speaker 5: later reports in the day, we'll have three days of

1486
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 5: work on the field. So that is where we really

1487
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Speaker 5: start to get a good vision of exactly what all

1488
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Speaker 5: this is shaping up to be. So yeah, excited for that.

1489
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Speaker 5: So They're so kind to ask and to bring me

1490
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Speaker 5: back after doing to the last few years, and so

1491
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Speaker 5: we'll have some fun. It's you know, this is where

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Speaker 5: I have to remember how to be on TV again.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: All right, I think you'll be all right this podcast live,

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Speaker 2: you'll be all right, Yeah, you'll be okay.

1496
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Speaker 1: So we I've done this live. There was nothing that

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Speaker 1: we had to go back and edit. Yet they're still

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Speaker 1: just wait at left, just wait wait way, Well we'll

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Speaker 1: se through it up the outro. Yeah, absolutely, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's like riding a bike for layra over to it again.

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Speaker 1: If you want to come to Colts Camp, it is

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Speaker 1: free most days. There is a five dollars for some days,

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Speaker 1: but that just covers some incidentals and parking and things

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Speaker 1: like that. But we would love to see you up

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Speaker 1: at Grand Park in Westfield again. Colts dot com slash

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Speaker 1: camp has all the details and all the practice times.

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Speaker 1: It is your one stop shop for Colts Camp again.

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Speaker 1: For JJ Laira, I'm Matt Taylor. Kevin Connors behind the

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Speaker 1: cameras and the mics and the ones and twos. We

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: appreciate KC for all that he does and we appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait to see us soon, either at a

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Speaker 1: Colts game or Colts practice, and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: soon next Tuesday, right here on the Official Colts podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Colts Audio Network.