1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. All it does is win wa. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansa's nae, joined by a room 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Grows. 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: I thought, what up, boys, how are you? What's going on? 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Good midweek show, midday week show. The grind is on 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: week seven. It's not a grind, it's a treat. It's 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: a listen, you know, working it's shot by It's like, 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's already week seven. To be honest, 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: working working for the NFL is an honor and and 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: it's fun. But this this week has felt a little 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: grindy to me. That's all grinding, little grinding. It's only Wednesday, 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: so you've got a long way to go. Still, Wednesday 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: is like at that point, you've been here since Sunday 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: all day. It just feels like, all right, we need 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: to get over this. Greg is like, I will make 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: note of this in your performance. Very disappointed with the 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: entire staff at this point, and for good reason. Mark, 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: by the way, was very focused before the show started, 20 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: trying to finish up a post he wrote right before 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: we came upstairs just to let you into the machine. 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: How much work is being done? Mark sel just he's 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: so focused. The guy is like a machine. Well, I've 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: sent it to the at a desk, yet I have 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: no confidence that it got through because we're in this 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: this high fashion studio up here. Did it get through? 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: So that synergy? That's Greg right over there. You have 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: not really different pointed in any of years. I'm just 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: not fully paying attention. Oh well that's are you staying? 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: And and by the way, if anyone I did get 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: a couple of tweets about the the handsas Robit five 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: thousand that could come in and do my job so 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: I can go off to an island somewhere with my 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: wife and young child. It's in the works. From what 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: I thought, I was the one going away from month. 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: How did this get I had, I got the robot 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: in the mix. You gotta get a robot situation going 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: first before you can get out of it. Does it 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: have your hair? Well, we'll see it depends how how 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: gifted these people are. All right, we have a great 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: show today. We are We're gonna get into another one 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: of West's Juicy Top ten lists, UH sponsored by Lenovo Lenovo. 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: I thought for a second you were joking, and I 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: realized that one of the great, one of the great 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: computer products of this generation that is a special think pad. 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into what is this week's top 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: ten top ten franchise cornerstones. I don't even really know 48 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: what that means, but I'm excited about it. And you 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: know who else has excited the people at Lenovo who 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: was sponsor at the time. I'm getting paid by the 51 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: reference now. Also, we're going to talk about a little 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: uh CNF preview Thursday night football Jets Patriots. Usually this 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: is the type of game that I can't wait until 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: football comes around as a Jets fan in in in 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: the situation that my franchise finds itself in. Not as 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: excited this time around. But look, Greg is hopping in 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: his chair like a little bit said, I get you know, 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: you're not even working during the game, so you can 59 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: kick back and relax that with with your son, so 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: you can hang out with me. I could do that too, Actually, 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: my wife doesn't want me in the house. Maybe watch 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: it with Jack. Give him the choice, which team do 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: you want to route for? The one with all the 64 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: fun fans and the titles fun fans. Yeah. When I 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: think of the Patriot Nation, I think of a bunch 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: of like, fun loving guys that just you know, they 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: were loyal for years of the Patriots fan base. Let's 68 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: be honest about two thousand one and later. Let's be honest. 69 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: That's not They're like the Miami Heat of the NFL. 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just the theory. Pat pat Patriot 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: the mascot might be in the mix. He might like 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: him just saying Okay, I'll throw it. I'll throw it 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: up for grabs, Greg. And finally, we will also hit 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: a game we haven't played in a while. Everybody's favorite 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: game was more likely. It's probably not everybody's favorite game. Actually, 76 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I prefer go get my lunch. But it's definitely a 77 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: better game than win Greg's Toaster, which is non existent. Oh, Greg, 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I'm fine with that. I never liked the 79 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: toaster game. If you want to end the game, if 80 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, I can just know. I mean, 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: it's not because you refuse to take on any competitor. Greg. 82 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: That's said, all right, So that's it. What's more likely 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: Jets win or Lenovo just continues to craft highakane beautiful laptop. 84 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: Obviously Lenovo, because when you want if you're looking for 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: electronics gear, you go to the people Lenovo. All right, 86 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: so let's start TV behind the glass? How are you buddy? 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys? And Yes, Wednesday is kind of 88 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: like the dead space in the NFL week usually, but 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: it is the only show that I get to play 90 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: a news drop during the season, So I'm excited. Well, 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: I don't hear it? All right, let's do it. I 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: like that kind of party. I like that kind of 93 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: party Bourbon. One of my all time favorites. That is 94 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Greg Who is that I don't know? That is Mike 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Singleton correct from and I know it from the old s. 96 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: I when you would sign up for s I the magazine, 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: this is before the doct com. They would have an 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: ad and like, oh, get a free football phone, and 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: then it would be a couple of different like clips 100 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: and one would be a crazy eyed Mike Singletary staring 101 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: down over an offensive line just to Phil Gregg. And 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary was a linebacker for the Pairs at one point, 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: very productive, and then he coached the forty Niners and 104 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: continues on as an assistant today. Took his pants down 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: in a locker room once while wearing a giant cross. 106 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of the Beastie Boys. 107 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, you remember before one of their songs 108 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: when when he goes if if I knew was that 109 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of party, I'd stick my mashed potatoes. I didn't 110 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: remember that. I love that. That would be a good sound. 111 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: It would actually let's get to some news. On that note, 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: we should get into some news. Uh, I'm sorry, I 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: disturbing visual all around. Let's just continue on all right. 114 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: Let's start in Washington, where Robert Griffin the third made 115 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: his return to Redskins practice. He worked on an individual basis. Afterwards, 116 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: there's some interesting news from Jake Ruden, the Redskins coach, 117 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: who told reporters that, uh, Griffin looked fine and quote 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: had a little bounced to his step, and then said 119 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: that Griffin would become the starter again once he's healthy. 120 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: And then here was kind of an interesting quote he 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: had to say, I don't know when that will be yet. 122 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Regarding to when he will be ready to play, it's 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: hard for me to project. It could be one week, 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: two weeks, it could be five weeks. I don't know yet. 125 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: So the takeaway here is Kirk Cousins. It looks like 126 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: he did not he'd take advantage of his opportunity to 127 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: keep r G three on the bench and two r 128 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: G three camp. He might not be that far off 129 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: in his return. Now. I doubt it's gonna be one week, 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: but uh, he could be back sooner than we expected 131 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: with that dislocated ankle. I like that. Gruden has been 132 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: refreshingly honest throughout this whole thing. Just three weeks ago, 133 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: he was asked about the Kirk Cousins possibility that he 134 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: would take over for r G three for the rest 135 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: of the season, and he wouldn't roll it out. He said, 136 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: you know, anything's possible. But now that he's seen Cousins 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: play for a few games, common sense. You go back 138 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: to r G three. Cousins own four as a starter, 139 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: turned the ball over nine times, uh this season, eight interceptions. 140 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: He's throwing tent touchdown. So he's had some big plays, 141 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: he's had some moments, but he just does not take 142 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: care of the ball and he's killing him. I like 143 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: to take away from me is that when he's had success. 144 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: It's because the Sean Jackson has worked out as a 145 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: big free agent acquisition, which is rare for Washington to 146 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: begin with. But in seven of those picks came in 147 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: two games, and in both cases for me, it was 148 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: watching Cousins completely lose it from the neck up latent 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: games when he started to melt, and then then then 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: bad passes started happening, like he'd start the game and 151 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: control and he completely spin out of it by the end. 152 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: He's thrown fewer than four hundred past attempts in his 153 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: career and he has eighteen interceptions, So that isn't that 154 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: is leading the league an interception type of pace. That's 155 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: that's Smith he has. He has a higher interception percentage 156 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: in his career than Gino Smith and higher than any 157 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: starter in the NFL. You know, when when they first 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: put Cousins in, I said, hell, he could make it 159 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: tough on them if he's somewhere in the mid where 160 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 1: he either has to be really good if he's really bad. 161 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: You know, they go back to Griffin. He is sort 162 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: of in the middle, if you want to think about it, 163 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: but he hasn't played well enough. He's second in the 164 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: league in yards per attempt. That's a stat we use, 165 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, Jackson, but on the lower end of the middle, 166 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: people get to Sean Jackson credit for this. Those have 167 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: been some great passes. He's been a terrific I would 168 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: give the credit to the offense. It's similar to Hoyer. 169 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: There's only one quarterback in the NFL who has more 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: yards per attempt on play action passes than Hoyer, and 171 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: it's Kirk Cousins. That's manufactured by the offense. Sure Rivers, 172 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: by the way, leads the league. The top four right 173 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: now in yards pretense is Rivers, Cousins, Dalton, and Hoyer. 174 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: Dalton's manufactured by the offense. Party I'd like to go 175 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: to and you know, just you said that glowing Gingerman 176 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: is a real party animal. But no, the Gruden said also, 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he basically threw some support behind Cousins still, 178 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: but he then also added, if things can tinue in 179 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: this downward spiral, there's always a chance we go to 180 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: coult as in cult McCoy as in uh Coulton Sessler, 181 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: which would be just as good an option if you're 182 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: looking to win games. So that really tells you Cousins 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: hasn't been that good. If Cult McCoy is even coming 184 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: up in conversation, yeah, I think Coulton Sessler not a 185 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: not the attention span at age two that you'd want 186 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: from the starting NFL quarterback who's got a strong arm. 187 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Coulton Sesseler or Cult McCoy. We don't have to put 188 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: that in a yard and see. I mean, that's that's 189 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: something that's up for grabs. All right, Let's move on 190 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: Vante's berfect. We talked about him on Sunday. Chris Westling 191 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: pounded the table and said Vante's perfect twisting ankles on 192 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the field dirt bag behavior. I I can't respect that man. 193 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: He should be suspended Forget to find other players and 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: other people around the league felt the same way. Olson, 195 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: one of the men who got his ankle twisted. Greg 196 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: Olsen said that there should be a suspension. But the 197 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: RUOPI Perfect find twenty five dollars. Uh. This we found 198 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: out today via NFL media inside a rap sheet. Uh So, 199 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: no suspend and Rappaport did add that the suspension could 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: be Uh, there could be a suspension if this type 201 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: of behavior continues. So Perfect dodges the suspension bowl for 202 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: his shady behavior. I think in an error when you 203 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: stress player safety, when one linebacker takes it upon himself 204 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: to do to turn into play where the main point 205 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: of it is to try to injure somebody, you had 206 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: a chance to send a message here another thing, and 207 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: Chris and I were talking about this in the news 208 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: room that when football was at its height of violence, 209 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: back before face masks and everything else, one of the 210 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: reasons you could get away with that was because you know, 211 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: maybe at most people in the stands would have some 212 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: eye on that. Perfect has to know that anything he 213 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: tries is under the surveillance of like fifteen cameras right 214 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: now from twenty two different angles. I mean, especially when 215 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: you try it both times at the end of a touchdown. Well, 216 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: and now other teams are going to be watching it too, 217 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: if they weren't already, if they didn't already know him 218 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: as cheap shot artists, they're gonna be watching it now 219 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: and looking for any chance a to get a good 220 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: hit on Perfect and and be if he tries to 221 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: try any funny stuff act. Can you imagine Dan, Let's 222 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: say that you did something that didn't please Greg or 223 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: one of the bosses here at NFL dot com slash. 224 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: All right, but let's say you got fine twenty five 225 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars that would put your family line in total 226 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: chaos for like the next twelve years until they found me. 227 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, for him, it's like yeah, and well, yeah, 228 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: it's true. I mean, that's the money amount is does 229 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: nothing for these guys. The other the other thing is 230 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: a little weird to me is that we sometimes during 231 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: the offseason, you'll run this our own network will run 232 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: commentary about dick Buckets and Night Train Lane, celebrating them 233 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: for being like guys that are dirty on the field. 234 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: Your boy what was his name again, ed Sprinkle Ed Sprinkle. 235 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: So like now all of a sudden, it's it's viewed 236 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: is something that should be a suspension. I get the 237 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: game has changed, but it's kind of interesting. Well it's 238 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: different hitting people in ways that are now illegal and 239 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: forcibly trying to twist guys ankles. I don't know if 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: anyone's getting celebrated for that, like a week move. Regardless, 241 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I think the NFL needs to go back and they 242 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: they look at every dick butt kiss hit and you know, 243 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: moved from all these guys and retroactively find them, and 244 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: let's see, you know what, everyone should pay for what 245 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: they've done over the people will join me in the 246 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: forest if that ever happened. Moving forward, the Dolphins of 247 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: place no Sean Moreno on the season end season ending 248 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: injured reserve with an a c L injury. This is 249 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: something that the team announced on Tuesday. Moreno tours a 250 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: c L in the third quarter of Sunday's lost to 251 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: the Packers. We wondered on Sunday Show, you know what 252 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: happened to him the second half of it seemed at 253 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: the time maybe they're just going with the hot hand 254 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. But apparently Moreno wasn't up to it. So 255 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: now the guy that came to the Dolphins they expected 256 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: him to be, uh they're starting running back, is now 257 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: out of the picture. How big a loss. We weren't 258 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: the only one who didn't know what happened to him. 259 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: The Dolphins had no idea that Marino had torn his 260 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: A c L and he stayed in for another play. Well. 261 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: They also I don't know if I totally believe them 262 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: because they said they weren't even a where he was injured, 263 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: because they didn't even report the injury during the game 264 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: like you're supposed to. And the initial press conference on 265 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Monday about it, he said, Oh, we didn't know he 266 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: was hurt at all. Reporters were saying he was walking 267 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: fine in the locker room after he tore his A 268 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: c O. It's crazy, not to unusual. How many times 269 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: you see guys walking off the field at their knee 270 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: injury and you're like, oh, it looks like they're okay, 271 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: and then you find out that they blew out their knee. 272 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of a stranger thing. It's disappointing from Miami 273 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: because in Week one they ran the ball so well 274 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: and you kind of got a vision of what the 275 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Dolphins wanted to do when they had I don't think 276 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller is not seen as in every down back. 277 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: We know that when they had Marino and Millard together, 278 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: it was That's what the whole offseason was spent establishing. 279 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: They really haven't been able to do what they planned 280 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: to do since. But you can't be worried, Mark, because 281 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: you have the man behind the machine, Bill Laze, her 282 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: to fix everything. I am very worried because I'm not 283 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: sure Bill Laser or anyone in that organige. There we 284 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: go I mean, when you got this guy show, the 285 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins are primed to sweep and clean desks up and 286 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: down on every floor of that building. I mean, it's 287 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: going to be a start over, reboot job. We gave 288 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, Chris a lot of grief for really pumping 289 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: up Lamar Miller last year. Was on her making the leapless. 290 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he's averaging five point two yards. Great, the 291 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: Dolphins are third in the NFL in rushing in yards 292 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: from But he's not a guy that you want to 293 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: give twenty five times a game. This injury hurts and 294 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: all that, But Lamar Miller in the running game has 295 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: been pretty good. Well can we call that if you're 296 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna look at those quarterbacks and say it's system driven 297 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: and that's accurate. Something here has to do with the 298 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: running backs in a Bill Laser type systems, and Millard 299 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have no show Marino's physicality. If you go back 300 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: to that Week one game you were talking about, he 301 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: set the tone and they jumped on his back in 302 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: that game. I think they'll miss that a little bit. 303 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller is not a physical back. They what a 304 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: roller coaster season for Murano or tenure even in Miami 305 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: if it only lasts one year because he was an 306 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: offseason punchline. Then shoved it in everyone's face and looked 307 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: into the camp. And in Week one and then this 308 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: moving forward, Mike Williams, the Buffalo Bill's wide receiver, a 309 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: surprise healthy scratch on Sunday. Again, we talked about it 310 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday, found that interesting. Turns out there was a reason, um, 311 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: well not a reason, but maybe reason Williams now wants out. 312 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: An NFL media inside ian Rapperport reported that williams agent 313 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: was given permission to quote gauge interest from other teams 314 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: to seek a trade. Um. And then we heard from 315 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Bill's general manager Doug Wale, who said money the team 316 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: said Monday, the team is not actively shopping Williams. And 317 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: then today Wednesday, Greg Doug Maron came out and said 318 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: he wasn't thrilled that this was even something that was 319 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: going on around his team. No, he admitted he was annoyed. 320 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: He said, basically, Williams getting benched is your problem, but 321 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: now it became my problem because you're asking or a trade. 322 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: So he was not amused at all. Williams tried to backpedal, 323 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: said it was all his agents idea. He didn't even 324 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: clear his agent, which I don't believe at all to act. 325 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: And you know, Williams, you know, said this week, I'll 326 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: just try to be the scout team m v P. 327 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: So he's trying to walk it back because he knows 328 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: no one wants him. His agency has been very busy 329 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: this week, bombarding my inbox with emails, really getting heat. Yeah. 330 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: I had written that williams five point two million dollar 331 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: salary next year was fully guaranteed. Because when you there's 332 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: this little game that agents play with NFL media insiders, 333 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: all of them. They lie about what the contract is 334 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: when it comes out and everybody kind of winks at it. 335 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: They talk about guarantees, but that five point two million 336 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: is guaranteed for injury only. So when you search any 337 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: source on the internet, it will say fully guaranteed five 338 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: point two million. It's really only guaranteed for injury. So 339 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: the agent was acting like I was holding up a 340 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: potential trade for this quote unquote number one receiver US 341 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, you guys just trying to live I 342 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: mean the bill, the bills. GM said it, Well, if 343 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: he was a number one receiver, uh, you know, like 344 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: he says he can't he can't wait to see all 345 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: the great trade offers that come rolling in for this 346 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: guy that can't even play about Chris Ogan. I like that. 347 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: Doug Whaley basically said, well, I'm not gonna listen to 348 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: anything unless we get number one receiver type compensation in 349 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: quote sort of. That's what Mike Williams told me. He 350 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: was it was like, Hello, a lot of unrest in Buffalo, 351 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: and that's good for Patriots fans. I don't think Patriots 352 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: fans are worried about anything that's Buffalo. Uh, And that's 353 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: what's happening. Why from Culver City, California. It's America's favorite 354 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: game show. More Wow, it is great to hear the 355 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: gold Standards voice. Of course, the the voice talent behind. 356 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: What's more likely is intro the our former producers Zach Goldman. Yeah, well, no, 357 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: the whole world knows the gold Standard. He needs no introduction. 358 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: You don't need to be a regular listener to the 359 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: show to know that the man from Oxford that loves 360 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: the great what do they call it? The Beautiful Game, 361 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: but also produced the hell out of a football podcast, 362 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: as can our current producer TD just well, you know 363 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: what like that. I wasn't trying to say that gold 364 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Center was better than TV. I'm not saying but it's great. 365 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: Had we just moved right on to the segment, that 366 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: would have been a little awkward. Well, I don't would 367 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: that have been weird t D if I didn't throw 368 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: you praise the gold Standard as well? Boy? You know? 369 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: And he came in here, young and eager, and he 370 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: learned well, and he'll be back soon. Actually, I feel 371 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: like you are you breaking news here? No, I'll still 372 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: be on the show, but he's going to be around good. Yeah, 373 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: we're pretending like we didn't know this, but we knew that. 374 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like TD is would be a 375 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: situation where TV, like you would be like, hey, young cub, 376 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: do you say stuff like that? But anyway, so what's 377 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: more likely is? Uh, it's a pretty simple game. Basically, 378 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: we I go through. I basically put on my skip 379 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Wink Martindale hat whatever his name is, Wink Martindale tie, 380 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: skinny tie, stupid microphone of the lung skinny ones, and 381 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: I lay out a series of scenarios and I said, 382 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: what's more likely? And I throw it to you fellas 383 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: you boys, and then you tell me what's more likely, 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: and sometimes you're on the same page, but sometimes you're not. 385 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Either way, It's gonna be fun debate my favorite game 386 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: show that we at all Right, so let's start right 387 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: off the top. What more likely Brian Hoyer wins Comeback 388 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Player of the Year or Derek Carr wins Offensive Rookie 389 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: of the Year. M I'm going with Hoyer win's Comeback 390 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. I think I might have him 391 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: second behind Rulanda McClain right now. Interesting where is I 392 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: have quite a few people in front of Derek Carr 393 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: for Offensive Rookie of I I would think that have 394 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: you did you watch Car yet this week? I did? Okay, 395 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: how were you super impressed? I've been more considerably more 396 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: impressed with Blake Bortles in Derek Carr this year. Cars 397 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: last game was better than any game Bordles has had. 398 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: But if you look at the whole package, I feel 399 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: like Bordles has more to offer. This whole award is 400 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: sort of it borders on a sham, but it is 401 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: very narrative driven and it's gonna be hard for comeback 402 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: player the Comeback Player of the Year, And I think 403 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: I like what car did a lot this past weekend, 404 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: and he's definitely there's some hope there for the Raiders 405 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: because of him. But I would go with Hoyer because 406 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: let's just say, what happens plays itself out for the 407 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: rest of the season. They go ten and six or 408 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: something like that, and he's successful. He is all. He's 409 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: a coming off a major knee injury, so you got 410 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: that checked and you're a quarterback that one with the 411 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, and there's a lot to play with their 412 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: great I thought deeply about this kind of thing odds 413 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: because Howyer is going up against the entire NFL, so 414 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: right there, car has an advantage that essentially there's only 415 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna be eight rookies that matter, especially starting quarterback. That's untrue. 416 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Lawyer is only going against comeback candidates, but not the 417 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: entire NFL. You know what I mean. I think there 418 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: are more offensive rookies than come back candidates, but not 419 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: good ones. Not start starting quarterbacks immediately have a halfway 420 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: decent starting quarterback wins the Rookie of the Year every 421 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: other time? Basically isn't that true of the comeback award? Though? Two, 422 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: when there's really at this point, I could look at 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: Rolando a study on this that's exactly right quarterbacks WI 424 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: And it's just there isn't a big pool of obvious 425 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: comeback candidates either. My answer is Brian Hoyer just because 426 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: I think he's going to continue to have a nice season, 427 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: like Mark said, And I don't think Derek Carr or 428 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna win many games. It's really hard 429 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: to win those awards teams. To be honest, I thought 430 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: I thought this was definitely and I was just setting 431 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: this up for West to pick the other person involved, 432 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: not a lawyer. I was gonna say, like Shack Evans 433 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: Jets wide receiver for a Rookie of the Year, and 434 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and see if what's was gonna go with him? But 435 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: less is if you're noticing, it's subtle, but he's starting 436 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: to turn towards Brownie Lane. There are next Stop Berea. 437 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: There are five games of film out there. We have 438 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: to change our opinions on things, We have to adjust 439 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: to reality. Maybe we could make it the Teams of 440 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: a t L and the Browns are one too. How 441 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: about he scampers off with Kyle Shanahan Offensive Assistant of 442 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: the Year into the wilderness and pe Terrell Austin and 443 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: Rod Manner Nelly are top three in the Mark Sessler 444 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: Sistant of the Year Award. Is that the same wilderness 445 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: where me and many other past NFL players are hiding 446 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: out for money reasons? Well, it's like any forest land 447 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: of old. There's good in what more likely Chris Johnson 448 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: finishes with less than five hundred yards rushing or Cordurel 449 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: Patterson finishes with less than five hundred yards receiving. I'm 450 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: gonna say Chris Johnson because I could see him banished altogether. 451 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's already down to what ten or twelve 452 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: snaps a game now. Seems like the Vikings would be 453 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: foolish to take their most talented offensive player and and 454 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: completely Well, I think that's probably a few games where 455 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to adjust to what he can do. I'll 456 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: go with that too, because I think Corderyl, he's whether 457 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: or not he can continues to struggle. You'll see a 458 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: game or two where he blows up and crossing get 459 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: he'll get past that barrier. I thought it was interesting 460 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: what nor of Turner said this week, or was Mike 461 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: Zimmer that said this week? They asked why isn't he 462 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: getting the ball? And he's like, he's got to get open, 463 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: And you could tell there was a level of frustration. 464 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: We knew heading into the season that route running wasn't 465 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: a strength of his, that he needs to become more polished, 466 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: and clearly what you took from what Zimmer was saying 467 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: is that he has not progressed on that level and 468 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: the team's frustrated. We didn't know much in the preseason 469 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: because we couldn't have been more excited about this player. 470 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: Right when they're throwing to him, they have a quarterback 471 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: rading of forty with no touchdowns in four interceptions. Now, 472 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: that's not all Patterson's fault by any means, but sometimes 473 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: everyone wants to pick the team. Oh, how come you 474 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: can't get him open? Well, if you're if he was 475 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: a great, great player, he'd be getting some yardage. I 476 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: like how savvy you were. By the way, they each 477 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: were almost the exact same yardage going into today, two 478 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: versus two four, I'm gonna say, by the way, I 479 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: think Johnson is more likely to finish under that was 480 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: the question, right, Yeah, yeah, because I could see him 481 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: just getting benched. Yeah, And I think Mark like he 482 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: had the three rushes for a hundred and two yards 483 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: in week one. They've given him the Patterson I'm referring to. 484 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: They've given him them ball twice on a handoff, uh 485 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: ever since, which is absurd. But you said receiving I thought, 486 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: uh yeah, So don't even listen anything I'm saying right 487 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: now on this. You know that was like somebody wants 488 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: to do something beyond their current capabilities, and you tell 489 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: that person, look, until you can do your job, I'm 490 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: not gonna let you do this fun job. I think 491 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that going on with Cordarol Patterson. 492 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: You've got two old school coaches in North Turner and 493 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer. They want him to get the basics down 494 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: before he gets to do fun things like reverses, screens, 495 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Percy Harvin type of routes, jet sweeps, and I think 496 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: that's going on here. That's very That's an interesting point. 497 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: The only thing I'd say if I were a Vikings 498 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: fan is hey, fellas, how about we went a few 499 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: games the game played the developed players too. That was 500 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: herm Edwards with Joe Namath. He relaxed. Yeah, things of 501 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: a great point there, what's the quick question, what's the 502 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: thing that you had to do in order to do 503 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: something fun as a kid like eat your veggies, to 504 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: play goss out and play? Oh I had I had 505 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: at least two or three nights a week a standoff 506 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: with my mom over veggies and dessert or veggies and 507 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: straight to bed. I had to cut down trees in 508 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: the backyard and layout lumber saw directs, you know, directionally horizontally, 509 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: Bill Cabins, Is that that was the chore? Just I 510 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: would say if I ate my vegetables, I got to 511 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: go into the coal mine and work twenty hours. Instead 512 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: was if you eat your vegetable, you can go play 513 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: with your new toy, which was a cinder block. There 514 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: wasn't There wasn't a lot of discipline going on in 515 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: the Rosenthal house or really a lot of conversations with 516 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: the parents at all. So and that's why Greg grew 517 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: up to be such a bad boy. What more likely 518 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is coaching the Steelers or Jim Harbaugh is 519 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: coaching the forty great question. That one's pretty easy for me. 520 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: More likely that Tomlin's coaching the Steelers. They don't make 521 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: coaching changes. I think they will make a coaching change 522 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: if they finished. Something feels weird about Pittsburgh right now. 523 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think. I don't think he 524 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: survives a losing season this year. I would just have 525 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: to go with what we know right now that there 526 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: seems to be more issues with Harbaugh obviously and Tomlin. 527 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: They've had a couple off seasons before and they haven't blinked. 528 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't Also, little think Pittsburgh is gonna 529 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: finish six in town. I think they're gonna be fine. 530 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if this, if they were setting odds on this, 531 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, Harbo is the favorite, but I'm taking the underdog. 532 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm taking Tomlin. Maybe Harbaugh will just stick it in 533 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: the forts ie by, you know, winning and taking a 534 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: contract even if around It's not where I was going. 535 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: I think I think Tomlin's gone if they don't have 536 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: a playoff season. M Like, what more likely Jay Gruden 537 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: is one and done head coach or Lovey Smith is 538 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: a one and done head coach. You're so negative all 539 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: these guys and their assistant coaches wives, and I'm gonna 540 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: say Lovey I think one of the only reasons he 541 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: got the job is because he had Jeff Tevert along 542 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: with him. He's never been able to coach all offense. 543 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: Jeff tever coaching career might be in the up in 544 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: the air now. And Love's team, I mean, I don't 545 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: know why he's playing the defense he's playing. Nobody should 546 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: be running Tampa two in today's NFL. I think I 547 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: think that the r G three injury well, or it's 548 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: so early to say, but that may help Gruden in 549 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: terms of a narrative to build an excuse around why 550 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: you should stick around. I'm not in love with the 551 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: way Gruden's handled the job in game or out of game. 552 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't think he's a particularly charismatic or commanding presence. 553 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go love you because I'm not sure Lovey 554 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: is gonna want to keep doing this for a long time. 555 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know that. But I'd say Gruden definitely 556 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: because of their owners, because Lovey has a history there 557 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: in Tampa. Hired by he's beloved in the community, he's 558 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: the he's the GM's first hire who just you know, 559 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: got there. They're kind of a package deal. I don't 560 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: think either one is at all likely, but Snyder has 561 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: a history of moving on. What more, likely the Cowboys 562 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: go thirteen and three or the Jaguars go one and sixteen. 563 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: I'll start with Sessler, go Cowboys thirteen and three. The 564 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: moment of panic I your part. Now, I just I 565 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: don't go in. Winless is harder than it looks. M 566 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I agree, thirteen and three is more likely. There's no 567 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: reason to think the Jaguars outplay the Titans last week. 568 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: They'll they'll find a way to win a couple of games. Probably, 569 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: I agree. I think I have to go to Rosenthal 570 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: route here, and just logically it's a lot easier to 571 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: go through thirteen and three than and sixteen. So the 572 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Rosenthal route is just taking it logical. You always have 573 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: to go Yeah, you always have to narrow down to numbers. 574 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: There's no room for intuition in the Greg Rosenthal mind. 575 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: How that feels. This is, by the way, if you're 576 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: listening to home, this is what we deal with all 577 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: day long time at the office, scientists. What more the 578 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: Jets make the playoffs or Mark Sessler steals Fahrenheit cologne 579 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: and man panties from Macy's pulls the Joseph Randal is Wait, 580 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: it was as that question the game, Please you want 581 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: to ask the question, Okay, Jets make the playoffs. Obviously 582 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: it's called setting up a bit t V. Why asked 583 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: Jets make the playoffs? Or Mark Steele's Fahrenheit cologne and 584 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: man panties from it was Fahrenheit. No, but that was 585 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: my teenage that I used to wear. Everyone word. I 586 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: never worred your car. I've never I've never worn a cologne. 587 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? It's great, continually siding on the 588 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: aspect of human life from everyone. Did someone tell you 589 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: to do that? I think when you were seventeen eighteen 590 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: you unwisely wore it. I mean I know that I 591 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: still cologne every once in a while. Cologne is not 592 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: a weird thing. Guys wear underwear. I don't think it's weird. 593 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: Never heard manant either. No, I just threw that in 594 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: for Settler would cost like eight dollars. So you're rolling 595 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: around in eight cologne and like in the middle of 596 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: math class. I won't name names, but there is a 597 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: member of the NFL media talent that comes over near 598 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: the printer area every morning at about five am or 599 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: six am, and his cologne barrels through the entire side 600 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: of the room. So some people wear it all the time, 601 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: no matter what TV looks like. You have something to say. 602 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: I do. Who doesn't work alogne Like? What was your dan? 603 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: What was your first in favor of cologne growing up 604 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: as a kid. This is funny because it was given 605 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: to me as a gift from Santa. I think old spice. Yeah, yeah, 606 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: my dad was an old spice guy, but I didn't. 607 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't think I wore cologne until I was in 608 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: high school. I I used to steal my dad's cologne 609 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: and then I got my own Fahrenheit bottle. I wasn't 610 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: you guys were out of the ordinary. I was just 611 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: giving you my honest experience old not you're all? Which 612 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: is deodorant is a lot different than cologne? Well, yes 613 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: it is. There are two different tonics. I don't presume 614 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: that I would know enough to know the right thing. So, 615 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: Salt of the Earth, if you were a baseball player, 616 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: would you be the guy who didn't wear batting gloves 617 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: and just pete on his hands so they'd be calloused. 618 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: My dad's bathroom cabinet looked like the guy from Anchorman. 619 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: He had like old spice, brute by Faberge stets and 620 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: some kind of Asian cologne where it was only like 621 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Chinese lettering, where you couldn't even understand what it was. Yeah, 622 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: I get that shipped in. You need you need a mailman. 623 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: If nobody answered the question, he just took that from 624 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, that's what we didn't answer the question, though, 625 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: Jets make the playoffs or Cessler steals a bunch of 626 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: embarrassing stuff like the cowboys running. He's a minimalist. He 627 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: doesn't need money, so he would steal before the Jets 628 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: made the playoffs. You're saying, no, I would not. I 629 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: would disagree with that. I would go Jets. I wasn't 630 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: even gonna ask you, but it's yeah, I'm gonna go Jets. Cessler, 631 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, when he opens his mouth, lies off and 632 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: come out. But he's a man of high character. He 633 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't steal things. I take up issue with the idea 634 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: that I lied do take a lot of crackers from 635 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: the commissary from the hu. I have actually walked up 636 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: and asked. I asked the woman who runder this register 637 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: to take these free, and she said yes, he said, 638 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: but he takes stacks of them, And doesn't that seem 639 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: like it's kind of bending the rules a little bit. 640 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: He never had to. Man takes four saltine crackers, some 641 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: nine billion dollar company. Anyway, Jets make the playoffs. I 642 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: agree as well. Mark think's weird between us. No, it was. 643 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: It was a good one. It's not a liar. It 644 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: just tells FIBs just what do we want to do 645 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: one or two more? Or should we get out of this? 646 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: I liked your penalties. You have to keep it in 647 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: the show. That's very ironic. What more likely Nick Foles 648 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: gets bench for performance reasons or Carson Palmer gets bench 649 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: for performance reasons. I thought you were going to go 650 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: performance and handing drugs. This one's tough because I don't 651 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: know whether to think like myself or like Greg. I'm 652 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: gonna go Nick Foles just because I don't think he's 653 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: been playing very well, and I think Chip Kelly is 654 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: not afraid to make at what could be an unpopular decision. 655 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Mark Sanche's vers Drew Stanton. By the way, I'm very 656 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: surprised by your answer, because you would think Greg would 657 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: go with Carson Palmer is already battling a nerve injury. 658 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: It will probably affect it will probably affect his performance. 659 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: He looked all right this week he did look okay, 660 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: mm hmm. I'm gonna go with Carson Palmer because for 661 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: that very reason, I think the nerve injury could resurface 662 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: again and affect the way he throws them. Yeah, I'll 663 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: go Palmer to be I just I think there's a 664 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: lot of faith in Stanton from Bruce arians to that 665 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: the switch wouldn't be that hard for him to comprehend. 666 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: All right, Last one, what more likely the Titans do 667 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: something worth talking about? Or West is a violent, part wolf, 668 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: part man, hybrid beast who stalks the streets of Marina 669 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: del Rey after nightfall? That West currently is that? Yeah, okay, okay, 670 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: because I picked, like, whoo, who would I say? Is 671 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: a a hybrid beast after nightfall? And West definitely came 672 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: to me He's definitely the night owl. If you're speaking metaphorically, 673 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: I would definitely go that I turned into something that 674 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to be after dark. Wow. Actually I 675 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: didn't even take that way, but maybe under the service 676 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: I did. But I was saying, literally, you turn into 677 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: a wolf man. Yeah, that's probably more likely. I've been 678 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: spending the last minute trying to think of something cool 679 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: about the Titans because I'm sick of all this Titans bashing. 680 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: But I couldn't really think yamp Hunter there, he's worth watching. 681 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: He could do something fun. Here's something, here's something worth 682 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: white watching. Will Jake Locker be ready for Sunday? Kill 683 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: me enough? I am so sick of that. You make 684 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: a solid point. I'm gonna go um with West. Half man, 685 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: half wolf beast, hybrid beast is my answer. All right, gentlemen, 686 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: So let's get into less West's latest list. And West 687 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: is such a great job the around the NFL uh 688 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: leader in writing rankings list. This time we have the 689 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: top ten nay eleven corners ozones of the NFL. And 690 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: why don't we start with I'm ranking podcast hosts in 691 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: my mind right now? I like that too, But let's 692 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: maybe that's next week. This week got to be number one. 693 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: First thing and Jeremiah somewhere else. The first things First, 694 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: what is a cornerstone in your mind? Someone around whom 695 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: to build your franchise. You want to be young, talented, 696 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: uniquely talented, and preferably a quarterback, since the game of 697 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: football has a glaring imbalance wherein the quarterback is so 698 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: much more valuable than in every other position. Is this 699 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: starting from scratch or there the best cornerstones on the 700 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: team they're on. If you're starting from scratch, this is 701 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: hypothetically if you threw every player into a pot and 702 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: you're allowed to draft them to start a team. So 703 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: there's some agesm attached to this. Yes, I am discriminating 704 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: against and I'm just a little uh spoiler alert. Peyton 705 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Manning and Tom Brady not on this list. So that's 706 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. You're not only picking great player, 707 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: but someone you could build a dynasty with. So let's 708 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: go through the list. I'll just go through one through ten, 709 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: I guess, and then we'll Greg. I'll throw it to 710 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: you to pick something out to get going. Number one 711 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, number two, Aaron Rodgers, number three, Cam Newton, 712 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: number four, Russell Wilson, five, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, J. J. Watt, 713 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, and at number ten Ben Roethlisberger. And then 714 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: there's this bonus pick which I'm not really on. We'll 715 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get into this a little later. Not huge 716 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: on board this. Let's you know ten top ten list 717 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: should be ten. But you've got Calvin Johnson. Here's the bonus. 718 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: You know your thoughts, Greg, Well, I'm excited to see 719 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: my boy Cam Newton so high on the list number three. 720 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: Imagine how far he's come in the last couple of 721 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: years that you would say, if you're just starreating a franchise, 722 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Newton's number three. But I gotta go negative a little bit. 723 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson number four, I'm surprised about. I feel like, 724 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: if you take him out of Seattle, you're just starting 725 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: a franchise. I would take a handful of guys ahead 726 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: of hit. Oh I disagree with that. Why well, because 727 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: I think one thing that Russell Wilson has proven too Seattle, 728 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: but the whole league is part of his Who do 729 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: you want to be the heart and soul of your team? 730 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: And he's the hardest working guy, probably one of the 731 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: hardest working quarterbacks in the game. Yeah, you're right, he's 732 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: on a team that sets him up to succeed. But 733 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: I I I'm sure a lot of these guys are 734 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: very hard working on the list. But I feel like 735 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: I agree with Greg that maybe he's a guy we 736 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: we don't know yet how good he is because they're 737 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: going to break up that defense eventually a little bit, 738 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,399 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see if Russell Wilson can carry the team. 739 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to carry that team. I think he'll 740 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: spend his whole career with people saying we don't know 741 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: how good this guy is yet, and it's like, you 742 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: know what, I think, we do know that he is 743 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: an exceptionable quarterback that for me worthy of being on 744 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: this list. I would just ask, I feel like I 745 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: generally agree on everything Greg does with the Quarterback Index, 746 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 1: and he's had Russell Wilson too low along. I would 747 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: just ask, what more do you want from him than 748 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: what he's already done in his first few years. I 749 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: want to see an offense sort of built more around 750 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: him throwing them all that him going through his progressions. 751 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Like you watched the last game. Granted that's one of 752 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: the worst games of his career. They take away the 753 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: first read and things get frantic. I mean, he has 754 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: a two for eleven spot at the end of the 755 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: game that doesn't normally happen. But they scheme so differently 756 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: than every other team in the league. I feel like 757 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what he would be like if he 758 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: wasn't with Darryl bebble. I think it's a perfect match. 759 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: Everything that's going on there. He's great, But I'd take 760 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan over him. You know, I'd take J. J. 761 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: Watt over him. Well, you take to start a team. 762 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: See that's the issue. Then you get down the list. 763 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: You've got Ben Roethlisberger, you got Drew Brees, you got 764 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. I would take Wilson. It's spart part of 765 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: this is his age. I'd take him better. And plus, 766 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: if we're and West, you set it up. Top quarterbacks 767 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: mean more. J J. Watt was healthy, he played all 768 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: season last year and his team lost four teen straight. 769 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna take a quarterback to build a 770 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: team around. Let's talk about your one and two Wes. 771 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: You have Luck at number one, Aaron Rodgers at number two. 772 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: Is this only because Luck is seven or eight years 773 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: younger than Rogers? Because I know you love your yourself 774 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: some A rod It's not only because of that. I 775 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: feel like lux body type. It will be a surprise 776 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: if he gets injured, I mean, even as a quarterback, 777 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: whereas with Rogers he ended one season on I R 778 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: with a broken foot, lost seven games to a fracture. 779 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: Coliberne last year has had multiple concussions. I just feel 780 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: like Luck is a much safer pick, and he's already 781 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: first in almost every category this year. His offense is 782 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: first and almost every category. I mean, the distance between 783 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,759 Speaker 1: Rogers and Luck right now isn't that big. I gotta 784 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: admit there's not a lot of home run picks. When 785 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: I look at the list that you definitely take ahead 786 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: of Wilson, Ryan would be one. There's not many more 787 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: Kaepernick right now. I don't know how I feel about 788 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: Breeze knocked because he's thirty five years old, which is 789 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: totally fair. You would want a younger player, and he 790 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: may be showing perhaps some signs so far this year 791 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: that he might be coming down a little bit. How 792 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: much of his start this year playing to you putting 793 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: him at seven, You know, I probably would had him 794 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: fifth or six had Rivers not been out playing him. 795 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: I truly believe he's probably still got a little left 796 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: over oblique injury things going on, and that's why he's 797 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: not going down the field. But I also believe he'll 798 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: bounce back. So I like that you've come on board 799 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: the Philip Rivers bandwagon. There was a time last year especially, 800 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: I remember you know you were you were resisting the 801 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: charm of rivers a very dark time, which people have 802 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 1: a hard time doing. We speak of that and hushed 803 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: tons in the Westley household. I think one, you know, 804 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: if you go into another round of this, because you've 805 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 1: got an honorable mentioned section, that to me is almost 806 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: more interesting because I agree, how do you not put 807 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: nine quarterbacks? But you got this down here and honorable mentions? 808 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: You got von Miller and mcdomin, con Sue, Robert Quinn, 809 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: a couple other guys, Thomas Stafford, that's where he gets 810 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: dropped into Tyrone Smith McCoy. Yeah, that is non quarterback corners. 811 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: I would have had Julio Jones and A. J. Green higher, 812 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: but there's some injury concerns there. Julio Jones had multiple injuries, 813 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: so is A J. Green really too? I like to 814 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: just gave Westerlyn another assignment. The long ones gonna take 815 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: a long time. Any anything else, any any concerns about 816 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and how they've played so far this year 817 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: that maybe led you to think maybe I should drop 818 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: him into the honorable mention. He almost got replaced in 819 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: the top ten by Calvin Johnson, not because of how 820 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: they played this year, because he's taken on fifty two 821 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 1: more sacks than any other quarterback in the league since 822 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: he came into the NFL, and he's thirty two years old. 823 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: How long can even a huge body like this his 824 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: how long can that hold up to all the hits 825 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: he's taken. We have heard that though for a few years, 826 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: maybe he's not gonna hold up well. And I think 827 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: he's playing right where he's always played. Even this year 828 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,439 Speaker 1: with the team struggling, I don't think it's on him. 829 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: I put him up a little higher. Now. I agree 830 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 1: the struggles aren't on him. But even if we take 831 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: the Greg Rosenthal angle here, mathematically, the more hits he takes, 832 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: the more likely he is to have a career ending injury. 833 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: And the other you make me out to be neat 834 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: silver and the other a position. I just I'll bring 835 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: this up because the other position that you typically when 836 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: when announcers and commentators talk about, oh he's a franchise cornerstone, 837 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: it's quarterbacks, but also left tackles. No left tackles in 838 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: your top ten. I don't think the NFL works that 839 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: way anymore. This isn't the blindside of era anymore? And 840 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: we haven't had a Walter Jones or and Anthony Munos 841 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: or Jonathan Ogden in the last decade. Really, look about 842 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: Wayne Hunter. You know he's on the right side of 843 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: Wayne Hunting. Ryan did get a tattoo of him? How 844 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: many other tackles has that ever happened for Rex? Ryan 845 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: would get a tattoo of you if it meant enough 846 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: to him. It's true number six forever on his arm? Alright, 847 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: anybody else, anybody else have thoughts on West's latest Great 848 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: Ten Top ten list presented. I want to get your 849 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: opinion on Kaepernick. I think he's the one I struggled 850 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: with the most that he is. Yeah, I don't know. 851 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: I would put him below Roethlisberger. Yeah, I wouldn't put 852 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: him on the list right now, as much as I 853 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: like him, like he would he would beyond the honorable 854 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: men and list. I don't know. I don't know how. 855 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: You don't know what he is, right, I don't know 856 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 1: if this is? It? Is? This it? Because it's pretty good. 857 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: It's four or five unbelievable plays a game. It's four 858 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: or five amazing games. The postseason success, right, it's a 859 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: four or five amazing games a year when you kind 860 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 1: of dial up the right plays, but it's not week 861 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: to week like for the season when he had been 862 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: on your top ten list. I just struggle with the 863 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't progressed. He hasn't grown in the 864 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: areas that we've seen as his weaknesses. I don't like 865 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: how he dresses on the podium. It's a punk punk. 866 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: I tells you you have issues, and we are all 867 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: recognizing that. Now. Very good. I'm glad it's finally happening. 868 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: All right, that's it. Great job, Wes. Alright, so we 869 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: move on. Let's hit Thursday Night football. I almost want 870 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: to skip it because the Jets are involved in. The 871 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: Jets are breaking my heart in half every Sunday. This 872 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: time they get to play on Thursday, and I know 873 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: they played Peyton Manning in the Denver Broncos on Sunday. 874 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 1: Now they go up to Foxboro to play the great 875 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Calvin pay came out on 876 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: WHEN on Tuesday and said the schedule maker has had 877 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 1: it out for us this year. I agree, because this 878 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,399 Speaker 1: is a tough spot for the Jets. Greg every fan 879 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: base says the same thing. Calvin pay speaks truth and 880 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: but the bottom line here is these are two teams 881 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: going in different directions. The Jets losers of five straight. 882 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: The Patriots have won their last two and look great 883 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: winning the last two. I know we all picked the 884 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: Patriots I believe to win this game. How do we 885 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: make a case that this game will be competitive? Because 886 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: I hear some wizards. That's easy, Yeah, go ahead, they 887 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: won the last time. By the way, just when you 888 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: think you have the NFL figured out, it throws you 889 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: for a loop. First of all, so the Patriots are 890 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: riding high, coming off two great games. They return home. 891 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: But then you gotta look, nobody coaches against Tom Brady 892 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: better than Rex Ryan, and you've got Eric Decker finally 893 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: getting healthy practice. Fully, that offense is different when Decker's 894 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: in there. Jason Morrow looked good, so good that Gino 895 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: Smith compared him to Rob Gronkowski, which is, let's just 896 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: laugh everyone. Gino just should not be talking right now, 897 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: all right, and let's stop comparing every single tight end 898 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: that is halfway decent to Rob Gronkowski. Why is he 899 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: the only service to them? I think the Jets fans 900 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: and Calvin Pace and everyone else should love to see 901 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 1: this game on the schedule. First of all, it's a 902 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: few less days of misery wallowing in New York this week, 903 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: and this is their super Bowl. This is like the 904 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: type of game Rex Ryan has won over the last 905 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: few years. Well, let's couch insult to Jets fans. By 906 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: the way, now a week seven games, they're super there. Okay, 907 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 1: it's their season. If ever there's a game that they're 908 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: going to have an emotional be emotionally up for, this 909 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: is it. And Connor Or, who covered the Jets, he's 910 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: now a writer for us. He was we were chatting 911 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: on the messenger service in our office. He was saying, 912 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: he thinks the Jets are gonna win this game. It 913 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: was that too much information to give about the structure? Well, 914 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: it was It was easy in New York. I'm in California. 915 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: There's got to be a way to chat. That was it. 916 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: He thinks that this is the perfect spot for Rex, 917 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: who loves to kind of turn his team inward in 918 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: fight against the media and get them all fired up. 919 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: And if you can't get fired up for this game 920 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: when you're basically fighting for your season, yes, it could 921 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: be close. But the reason why I don't think will 922 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: be close, and I think this is a double digit 923 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: game is Gino Smith. I know, you know there's talk 924 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: that he played better on Sunday, this best Sunday. I 925 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: still don't think he's playing with any confidence and I 926 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have another couple of backbreaking turnovers, and 927 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: in that environment on the road in prime time, I 928 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: could see this game slipping away. Very These Thursday night 929 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: games have been or they've been awful until last week, 930 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: which was incredible. It's one of the better, more entertaining 931 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: games of the yearly and on the whole prime the 932 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: primetime games haven't been great. This is the kind of 933 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: game that in the past, Rex Ryan, with a little 934 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 1: more firepower on his roster, would go out and take 935 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,479 Speaker 1: care of business and we'd be talking about the fact 936 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: that the Jets we've counted them out too soon. But 937 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: what I need to see for the Jets to have 938 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: a chance is I think we'll be What New England 939 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: accomplished last week on offense was a departure from where 940 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: they were earlier in the year. Brady at actually was 941 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 1: hitting people deep. You know, Brandon Lafell's involved obviously Gronk 942 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: looked better than he has. Brian Timms comes out of 943 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: the forest to make plays. I mean, this is the thing. 944 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: Greg actually is very excited because he knows that the 945 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: flip side of this Grex Ryan nice spot is when 946 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: remember when New England went out and dropped like a 947 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: forty nine to three bombshell on New York. There is 948 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 1: all that's set up to. You don't have good quarterback 949 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: playing in New York. You have a defense that's burning 950 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: to the steak. I don't know what's to love about 951 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: the Jets right now. I don't see that too harass you, 952 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: but it's just played well enough to win. Last week 953 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: they made Peyton Manny and the Broncos punt what was 954 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,760 Speaker 1: it five times in a row. They had a total 955 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: of eight yards in the first half. They played that 956 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: kind of defense against the Patriots. They're gonna be in 957 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: the game because New England's offense, even though they're throwing 958 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: the ball right now, I don't think they're a top 959 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: tier offense. Yet, They're not gonna be able to run 960 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: at all. There's no Stephen Ridley. I think they'll just 961 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: give up on the running. Some teams have had success 962 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: until Brandon Bolden, you know, blasts offs in the first half. 963 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: Two straight running backs have had their first career one 964 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 1: yard yard games against the Broncos on the ground, Brandon 965 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: Bolden could do that. And next up two names to 966 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: watch for the Patriots Chandler Jones U throughout revs. The 967 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: offensive line was the biggest concern I thought for the 968 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: Jets last week. Yeah, I thought the fact that they 969 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: just got steamrolled in every way and the run gaming 970 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: in the passing game about and Revas will make uh 971 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: Eric Decker go away. And what we've seen time and 972 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: time again is that, you know, Smith, it's not his fault, 973 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have enough weapons. If you take Decker 974 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 1: out of the mixed, whether it's by a great corner 975 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: or by a hamstring injury. So I think that's going 976 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: to set their off. Smith will make the rest of 977 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: the passing game go away. Fair enough. How did you 978 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: describe rob Rob Gronkowski's performance against the Bills. I thought 979 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: he looked like a humanoid war droid. I mean, he 980 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: just looked he looked a little bit level beyond humor 981 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: human compared to the rest of the people around him. 982 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: We haven't He's looked everything less than that's before. Before 983 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: last week he looked completely back. And I don't know 984 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: what flip side that's right? Who do the Jets have 985 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: to take care of that? Cover Titans? That's been an 986 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: issue for a couple of years now. And then it's 987 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: if Gronk is back to Gronk and we're starting to 988 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: see signs that's happening when you root for a bad team. 989 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: That is what I'm saying. Well, sometimes you don't want 990 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: these I would you know, if you're a Jets fan, 991 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: there's another side. Let's just couch this away on one 992 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 1: pm Eastern on a low level CBS or NBC station. 993 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: We don't want this on primetime in front of a nation. 994 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: Is gonna be a fun ball type of situation. You 995 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: know what. We don't need to go there. You're already 996 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 1: sitting on the top of the mountain of joy. I'm 997 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: not that confident I really do. All right, We'll see. 998 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,479 Speaker 1: All right. That's it for another edition of the Around 999 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. We will be back Thursday night with 1000 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: our another another show. We're gonna do our Week seven preview. 1001 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: We're going to get except we're gonna recap Thursday night 1002 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: game we just talked about some mirth will be involved 1003 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: and get some mirth in the mix. Everybody will love 1004 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: that and that's it until then. This is Dan Hanses 1005 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: signing off for the Sizzler, the Mailman, the Boss and 1006 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: t D behind the glass until tomorrow yea.