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Speaker 1: All Right, So I'm gonna start getting in shape because

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh Gronk, because I'm gonna show you how to

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Speaker 2: get him down. Oh Gronk is going down. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I do a pig, big big, pull me to win.

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Speaker 3: I said, we're pig big big, singing a cat. I said,

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Speaker 3: We're pig big big, sing it the cat. I have

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Speaker 2: I do a.

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Speaker 4: Big What is up? What is good? How you living?

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Speaker 4: Is the Big podcast with Shack where.

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Speaker 2: We always do it big.

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Speaker 4: We got a champ in our midst Shack. May I

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Speaker 2: Yes you may.

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Speaker 4: From the boxing ring to the Hall of Fame. Walk

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Speaker 4: This man stood tall, as the greatest of them all.

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Speaker 4: Evander Holyfield, the real deal in every fight, from heavyweight

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Speaker 4: warves to unforgettable nights took on Tyson, never back down

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Speaker 4: even with a piece of ear on the ground. A warrior,

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Speaker 4: Let's give him a hand. Evander that Champ.

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Speaker 2: Holy y'all about? Thank you, Champ? How you doing, brother?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I have a lot of questions, but the

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Speaker 2: first question, how do you stay so slim? But I

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Speaker 2: work out and little bite them inside. I take Well,

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Speaker 2: can I get a list of the vitamins that you take?

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Speaker 2: Because you're looking beautiful right now. I'm thinking because I

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Speaker 2: Charles Buckley. Charles Barker is the only guy that's taking

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Speaker 1: I know you said you got your own vitamins, like

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Speaker 2: Yes, these are the bdies that we need. He's the

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Speaker 2: thing that keep being burning fat. So these are things

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Speaker 2: can I what can I be your test dummy. You

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Speaker 2: ain't got to be the dummy, You be the man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I just came up with the name. What's that

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Speaker 1: and it's free of charge? Ready h r l y

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Speaker 1: dash Piel, Holy Phil. You take my products, you start

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Speaker 1: to feel holy again? Hello, Hello with your create charge

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Speaker 1: and parking the mantras again, Holy Feel? Hey, I'm serious

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Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, you need to pattern that right now,

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Speaker 1: Holy feel take my product and start to feel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah about this one. Yeah, Real deal nutrition.

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Speaker 2: Boo okay, actually no, actually not bad, actually not bad,

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Speaker 2: Real deal nutrition and Holy Feel. Okay, Actually it should

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Speaker 2: be Holy Feel Real Deal or Shreds. I like Shreds.

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Speaker 4: Very marketable shretz.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you should go with Shreds jamp. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's free charge champ not so much for me, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Shaq gets a six pact because it's Shreds man.

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact. Yeah, send it to me and I'm

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Speaker 1: The last time I saw he was about a week

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Speaker 2: Well, it looked suspicious, but you know, because he didn't

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of conspiracy theorists not under

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Speaker 4: Right, Shack, you were there too, What was that night?

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Speaker 2: Like? I feel like I got robbed? Did you beat

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Speaker 1: Well no I didn't bad. It's not that I got robbed.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, right, So the fact that Mike was putting

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Speaker 1: I met you when I was eighteen years old. You

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Speaker 1: You showed me what success really looks like. You showed

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Speaker 1: Dwight Howard. Is that true?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, I was down with him. I would

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you're still a friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: I mean because he gonna need help. Oh I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you know he gonna need help. Like you challenge me

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Speaker 2: to a boxing match. Wow, I'm Daniel. Oh that would

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Speaker 2: be a good way. Oh stop it, Oh stop Champ.

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Speaker 2: Champ stop it, Champ. My thing is why you wait

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Speaker 1: Like I'm fifty three, I'm sure I could do something,

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Speaker 1: but I will fight Gronk because, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: So it is huge.

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Speaker 4: Didn't realize how big Rock was until he was standing

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, my mom always told me, no quit.

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Speaker 2: Who was up that kid that ain't cease the calling?

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Speaker 2: And he got me twice and eventually I got him.

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Speaker 2: I said, hey, I said, I said, everybody wild laughing

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Speaker 2: When I said that, you know, I wouldn't. I would

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Speaker 2: And then it was okay.

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Speaker 1: Because how'd you feel that? Like, like did you like

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Speaker 2: Well, I get out. The thing is, I'm a supported

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Speaker 4: We do have a DraftKings question. So if you had bet,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to bet on Paul Tyson because it

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Speaker 4: games coming up this week Shack Thursday Night Football, Lions Packers.

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Speaker 2: were cool and all this. I ain't gonna let nobody.

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Speaker 2: You can't make me talk about I ain't no, I

433
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Speaker 2: ain't say nothing about no fighter. I'm not looking to divide,

434
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And you got some people

435
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Speaker 2: that if you need somebody to tell something about it,

436
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Speaker 2: he'll they'll say something about you negative. You know, you

437
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Speaker 2: know the point of the matter. You know, you know

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Speaker 2: we came up this way and you know, whatever direction

439
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Speaker 2: you whatever you were talking, this is what you did.

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Speaker 2: But you don't let nobody. You don't let nobody divide

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Speaker 2: you by saying making you think you better than somebody.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a fighter. I fight all good fighters. If

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Speaker 2: you want to fight, we we'll do this. But when

444
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Speaker 2: it all come out, I'm not going to put you

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Speaker 2: down for something makes sense. Uh.

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Speaker 4: We have a question from our friends at Zipper Career

447
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Speaker 4: of Andrew. They want to know who was your ultimate

448
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Speaker 4: teammate in helping you build and become the undisputed heavyweight champion.

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Speaker 2: Teammate? You know, and boxing you don't have teammates. You

450
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Speaker 2: you had sparring partner who would coming sparring because you

451
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Speaker 2: pay them to come. So, you know, boxing is it's

452
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Speaker 2: never being like a team. You know, you you have

453
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Speaker 2: your coaches, you you have people that that do their

454
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Speaker 2: job real ware, but it's like a it was.

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Speaker 4: There a trainer, a coach, a sparring partner that you

456
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Speaker 4: thought took you to another level?

457
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Speaker 2: I had I had a lot of good sparring partners

458
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Speaker 2: and so because I always had people that I always

459
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Speaker 2: had people that were bigger than I and people who

460
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Speaker 2: tend to know a little bit more than me. So

461
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Speaker 2: that's how I became the person I because my whole

462
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Speaker 2: thing is that I'm gonna pay you a lot, but

463
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Speaker 2: you got to do something. You got, you got you

464
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Speaker 2: got to try to mess me up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and like just so you know, if if it

466
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Speaker 4: also sounds like your your mother was an incredible teammate

467
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Speaker 4: for you, Like it sounds like her advice was always.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mama was always spot on. But it was

469
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Speaker 2: my mama and didn't know nothing about boxing. But I

470
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Speaker 2: know that, you know what my mama what. My mama

471
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Speaker 2: knew not to quit. And my mama, my mama had

472
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Speaker 2: this thing where by me being the youngest, she always

473
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Speaker 2: tell me, you got to get that look off your face.

474
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Speaker 2: You let everybody know how you feel. So my mama

475
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Speaker 2: didn't want me to know theydn't want me to let

476
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Speaker 2: people know how I feel where they couldn't get me.

477
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Speaker 2: So she knew how to get me. So she said,

478
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Speaker 2: talk about your feelings and all this. You you got

479
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Speaker 2: to look this way. My mama, she allowed me to

480
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Speaker 2: I love you? Can you give me two of the

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Speaker 2: hardest punches you ever fought? What do their punches feel like? Well? Uh,

529
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Speaker 2: of course yours? Woman? Uh what do it feel like?

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Speaker 2: I wait? What? Like something fell on me, like like

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Speaker 2: something fall in your toe and you feel it. But

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Speaker 2: here I am trying to act like it wasn't nothing.

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Speaker 2: And so my people telling me, come on, come on back.

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Speaker 2: The bell rung. But you know my leg had stop

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Speaker 2: like this, and I know if I move, I was

536
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Speaker 2: gonna just fall on my face. This is gonna make

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Speaker 2: George kill me. That's what you always try to not

538
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Speaker 2: let the guy know that he hurt me and you.

539
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Speaker 2: If a person hurts you, you can't you can't act

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Speaker 2: like you hurt red off? Who else? I ready? Ready, sure,

541
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Speaker 2: ready bowie he he did knock me down in all this,

542
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Speaker 2: but but you know, he the one that gave me

543
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Speaker 2: more trouble than anybody. But it's another fight that I

544
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Speaker 2: thought that was super tough, that with the white Mami

545
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Speaker 2: kawih wee. Oh yeah, I'm mean too. They throw me

546
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Speaker 2: in that fight and I had to go fifteen rounds

547
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Speaker 2: and that I never been past eight round And so

548
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Speaker 2: I get in with this guy and he, you know,

549
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Speaker 2: he he made me mad because he he embarrassed me

550
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Speaker 2: by grabbing being by the folk of Julyne Parade, grabbed

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Speaker 2: me by my neck and in front of the people,

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Speaker 2: and my mama saw it on TV. So my mama said,

553
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Speaker 2: you let that guy. I said, Mama, Dad was just

554
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Speaker 2: part of the thing, you know, But my mama was upset.

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Speaker 2: You didn't let him disrespect you like this. So, you know,

556
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Speaker 2: so getting into this fight, a fifteen round fight, I'm

557
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Speaker 2: gonna try to get it. I jumped out there the

558
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Speaker 2: first three rounds, I was on it. Fourth rown, he

559
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Speaker 2: started hitting a big shot and all of a sudden,

560
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Speaker 2: they just man, he hit me so dark, go hard.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden. I remember the fifteen round, I'm

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Speaker 2: all the other rounds slipped but I looked up at

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Speaker 2: fifteen round. Then I didn't know how to fight, how

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Speaker 2: the fight was, and they raised my hand. When they

565
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Speaker 2: raised my hand, I'm like this and then that have

566
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Speaker 2: to take me, take me, take me in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: I lost fifteen pounds in all of this. When I

568
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Speaker 2: seen it on TV, I said, I did good. You

569
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Speaker 2: mean this guy, this guy cracked me in the fourth

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Speaker 2: rownd and I ain't remember the fifteen round. Crazy it

571
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Speaker 2: was you.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you've seen Shack play basketball. Do you have

573
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Speaker 4: any favorite moments from seeing him on the court.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't you? Well, yeah, I'm like, you know, it was amazing.

575
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Speaker 2: He to me, he he won them guy winning. People

576
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Speaker 2: got out of the way. They did the right thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, just when you see him coming in, you

578
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Speaker 2: people say I ain't going in now. They just wouldn't

579
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Speaker 2: do it. I was like, you know, witches, get out

580
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Speaker 2: the way if you ain't gonna do nothing. We just

581
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Speaker 2: playing the Hawks.

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Speaker 1: Sometime when I saw a Champ understead, I tell him,

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Speaker 1: don't nobody shoot champshit to wash me play. I'm about

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Speaker 1: to put on the shove of the champ. Anybody shoot

585
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Speaker 1: getting picked up after the game, and they do that,

586
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Speaker 1: and every time I was dunking like I was looking

587
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Speaker 1: at the Champ and Champ never smiled and I was

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Speaker 1: say damn. And then finally got the call and say,

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Speaker 1: hey man, Champion, Champ, Champion's janelant ain't want to write

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Speaker 1: you to his house. So I definitely was trying to

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Speaker 1: impressure Champ.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like shick your your mindset was like

594
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Speaker 4: a haavyweight fighter when the when you had your entrance,

595
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Speaker 4: you try to intimidate people before the game started, and

596
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Speaker 4: in it you need to send that message very early

597
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Speaker 4: that you're not to be played with.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're a.

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Speaker 1: Young kid and you probably had dreams and aspirations. I

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Speaker 1: try to take a piece of all my favorite people,

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Speaker 1: Vander Mike, Muhammad, Magic, Kareem, doctor j One thing they did.

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Speaker 1: One thing that we did is we always put on

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Speaker 1: the show for the people. When people paid money to

604
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Speaker 1: see Evanna holy Field fight, they leave happy. And people

605
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Speaker 1: came to see, you know, to see me play a game.

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Speaker 1: They left happy. So you know the fact that the

607
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Speaker 1: Champ is there. I don't know if he's watching me,

608
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Speaker 1: if he's a Hawks fan, but the Champ is there.

609
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Speaker 1: I got to put on the show for the champ

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Speaker 1: and you know, we just kind of, you know, helped

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Speaker 1: each other and we've been really good friends. He's been

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Speaker 1: good to me and good to my mama and good

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Speaker 1: to my family. Martha says, hello, by the way that

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Speaker 1: can so we just you know, we've been cool ever since.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, you know thing in that

616
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Speaker 2: when it came down putting on the show, I realized,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was gonna give the very best that

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Speaker 2: I have. I ain't gonna run for nobody, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I realized that, you know, I may been the

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Speaker 2: smallest person at first and all this, but my mama say,

621
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Speaker 2: that's how you think that thinking ability. So my mama

622
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Speaker 2: showed me that you can make adjustment. Life is about

623
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Speaker 2: adjustments you have to make to be the very best

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Speaker 2: that you possibly could be.

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Speaker 4: Oh, if shakspan this entire childhood not playing basketball but

626
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Speaker 4: being in a boxing gym, what kind of super heavyweight

627
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Speaker 4: could Shaquille O'Neil have been?

628
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Speaker 2: Wait, he had the reach and when people know the balance,

629
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Speaker 2: the balance and keep that person out and you can

630
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Speaker 2: you can hit him. And I knew that, you know,

631
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Speaker 2: Ready Bowl, I actually thought Ready Bowl was the best

632
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Speaker 2: big man that's out there, because didn't make no difference

633
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Speaker 2: if he would it short or long. He can fight

634
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Speaker 2: long style, he can fight short style. And all this

635
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Speaker 2: and stuff show you that, you know, if if you

636
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Speaker 2: started an early age and and and have these skills,

637
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Speaker 2: you could be the very best. Did you see my

638
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Speaker 2: fight versus Sugar Shane? Yeah? How to do? Wait? The

639
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Speaker 2: point the point of the maunter that you you should

640
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Speaker 2: have kept him. We got there, but you get you

641
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Speaker 2: get the cloth. But you But but I thought you.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna die.

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Speaker 4: You. You, you are the actor that everyone goes, well,

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Speaker 4: what would be like if Shock play in the NFL?

645
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 4: What would be like a shock?

646
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: To this?

647
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: Boxing is interesting.

648
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't like to get hit being I used to

649
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: get disciplined all the time. However, I can take it

650
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: hit because I got disciplined all the time. But when

651
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: I was fighting De la Hoya and Shane, even though

652
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: all professional boxers, I've saved myself. If I get a

653
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: good hit, I could rock him. But I didn't want

654
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: to rock them, you know what I'm saying. Because it

655
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: was the shows I kind of wanted to put on

656
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 2: Paul stuff.

657
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we were but like, like I told them,

658
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: I said, for the sake of the show, if you

659
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: can hit me, hit me. But I didn't want to.

660
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want to release my George Forman on them.

661
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: I was just I was just nervous, like I didn't

662
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: want to embarrass. Like I didn't want to embarrass. Like

663
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: when when when Shane hit me one time, one time,

664
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I reared up and I kind of got him back

665
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: on the jab. You know, he hit me and then

666
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: I got into my step and I hit him back.

667
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: But when I was fighting Oxford Oscar, like Oscar is

668
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: a real good friend of mine, and when he was

669
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: hitting me with those shots, I don't know if he's

670
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: putting one hundred too, but I didn't really feel anything,

671
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: and I was gaining the confidence. I was like, you

672
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: know what, I think I can get him. But I

673
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to hit him like that. However, if somebody

674
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: challenged me though, like for exap were Gronk Ronck's my side,

675
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be letting nothing go with Gronk. I'm

676
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna be letting it go. See right here, look see

677
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: see he got right there and I hit him. You

678
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: saw that right, You saw that right? And then I said,

679
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be big. I'm gonna

680
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: get out on my knee. Look look he got me

681
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: right there, and I came back.

682
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: Bop. You see it?

683
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: You see a champ? Yeah, And then I said, you know,

684
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to be big. So now so now

685
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on my knee and get your size.

686
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to hear right there, you said,

687
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: you see it, Christian bop? How I look Champ left

688
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Champ Yeah, yeah, right there. See see right there he

689
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: got me and I had to hold him because that

690
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: shot kind of rocked my jaw a little bit. I

691
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: watched this right here. Okay, you got another one. See

692
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: now now I'm mad push you off elbow to the neck.

693
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

694
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: Body shots ain't help me because I got my six pack.

695
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: I've been in that gym, Champ. So like, if I'm

696
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: fighting a smaller guy, do I do I been down

697
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: to his size or do you.

698
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: Got the arm breache? Because the part of the matter,

699
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: he gonna miss you trying to hit you right because

700
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna be a get past you on me

701
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: too close. Okay, So I don't need to been down,

702
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 2: so I just need to stand it. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

703
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: but you're the only thing times, the only thing that

704
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: you're doing. You're just running too close to you. You

705
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: got him then if you would have just let him

706
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: go backwards and okay, you don't have to move up

707
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: all the time. So if the ground things go go through?

708
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: Can can you train me? I do that? Sure?

709
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: I know I would want one one thing though I

710
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: can't run. Well, you're now they got the bank okay, yeah,

711
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, bank and trim Okay, so you anything you say,

712
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: I'll do, but I can't run.

713
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, along two weeks, three weeks. No, that gonna

714
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: take you more than that. You didn't nothing to get in.

715
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: Take that. You want to get in. You want to win,

716
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: don't you.

717
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: All Right, So I'm gonna start getting into shape because

718
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: you inspired me today. I was gonna start my diet

719
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: next month, but the lines on the podcast a couple

720
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, now you know you guys are killing me.

721
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start my die today.

722
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 4: Nutritionist and Evander could be your trainer.

723
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: I meaning all protein.

724
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: So why can't you run? I can?

725
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm my hips all right, So we're gonna sign the

726
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: contract now when I fight, Gronk. You're gonna be my coach.

727
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 2: Oh Gronk, Oh, Gronk's going down. Yeah, Gronk in trouble. See,

728
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people take my niceness for weakness.

729
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't act like. I don't act like. I ain't

730
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: got no hands, got hands. I used to beat up

731
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: and get beat up, so I got a hand. But

732
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: now I'm about to be trained by the Champa. Come on, Netflix, Gronk,

733
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: who you gonna get? That's awesome, thanks Champ, No problem, Adam.

734
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm about to cry right now because you know, I

735
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: don't like to bother people. Right now, and I'm looking

736
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: at the Great Demand of holy Field and he has

737
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: a collector's card edition of himself and he just signed

738
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: it like I never asked people auto graph because obviously

739
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: I know what it feels like. But that's for me, Champ,

740
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: it's for you. Yeah wow.

741
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: And you know, and it's very rarely that I do this.

742
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: I want Champ show it to the camera.

743
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: And you know what, Champ, I appreciate you for having

744
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: a real autograph like Charles Barker autograph. You ain't got

745
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: no c no b noks, just a big line.

746
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: You see, matter has a nice script.

747
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: Oh mhmm, Chap for real. Yeah, now I gotta pay

748
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: you back, Champ. Nope, you don't really have Champ.

749
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 4: Making you feel check like.

750
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: I never asked for autograph, but like when you get

751
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: something from your idols, bro, it's like a big thing.

752
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

753
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how Champ feels about me. But I

754
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: was always a medium level juveniles to Lincoln, who was

755
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: told You're never going to be anything. So the fact

756
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting next to Champ, the fact that we've

757
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: been we've been close for fifteen to twenty years, the

758
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: fact that I've been to his house. Even though I'm shocked,

759
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm still the kid that doesn't believe nohing, this is real.

760
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: Champ for real? Man, Yeah, you know, you know is amazing.

761
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: I came up in a similar way. They told MA,

762
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be that. The only person that told

763
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: me I would be something my my mama. Yeah yeah, yeah,

764
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: I might have to get I might have to get

765
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: this lemonade and put it in my hall of fame.

766
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate Champ.

767
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: All right, let's see how much you know about Champ

768
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: since he was your idol, was Shacklicious trivia. You get

769
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: one wrong, you have to bite Shack's head. Tlevander Champ.

770
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're Champ. Not gonna eat that? Okay?

771
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: Check what year did the Champ kick off his boxing career?

772
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 4: Eighty three, eighty four or eighty five.

773
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with eighty four, ding ding y. Of course,

774
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm a Champ expert.

775
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: Which NBA team drafted Shaquille O'Neill in nineteen ninety two?

776
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 4: Was the Magic, the Heat or the Lakers NY.

777
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Heat, Magic Champ Magic? Okay? Or first Sire? Jack? So

778
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: I got I got to eat one of these when

779
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 2: I am wrong?

780
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: Does that go into your nutrition plan?

781
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Though? Well, my nutrition plan is me How about I

782
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: ate what I want? But I did the right thing, though,

783
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: I see that Jack.

784
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 4: Who was the first heavyweight fighter that Champ knocked out? Pinklin, Thomas,

785
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 4: Michael Doaks or James Tillis.

786
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: We'll go with Pinkland, Thomas.

787
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: James till Us.

788
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not familiar with miss tell Us. That's the

789
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: one that Tyson didn't knock out. That's the first person

790
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: Tyson didn't knock out. I'm gonna have to go check

791
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: that out. When I get home.

792
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: How'd you get them?

793
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Well, the fact is I throw so many punches. I didn't,

794
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: I didn't. They They stopped it because it's too much pressure.

795
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get in the gym with you.

796
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: We've already got with the great Freddie Roach has told me.

797
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: Now him putting them do together, plus the heart that

798
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: I got, did teach you. Well, I'm never gonna show you.

799
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh you you can step in the ring and I

800
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: show you, But.

801
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: That wouldn't be a good investment by me.

802
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: See me and Man not allowed to beat people up

803
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: in the streets. That's why we so cool. Just walk

804
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: away license weapons.

805
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Didn't damn right, you know what I mean. People don't

806
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: want to smack, but I can't. I just let it go, Shaq.

807
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: One war for you. Which legendary boxer did Champ fight?

808
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 4: George Foreman, Muhammad Ali, Joe Fraser?

809
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: Oh, this is the dumbest question of George Foreman. I

810
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: was there at the fight front row Fraser too. Yeah.

811
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh oh he bought you fought Fraser. Yeah he didn't

812
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: fight Fraser.

813
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: Shane light On the answer, Yeah, no, he didn't have

814
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: gone Evander.

815
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, because you know when people asked me

816
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: about myself like that. Yeah, I never I never get

817
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: into what are people like? But I'm like, we didn't fight.

818
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: I went old enough, but you know, but was he

819
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: a good fighter? I feel that my style, with my style,

820
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: I could fight him. I found that with my style,

821
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: I don't think a fighter that fault that I didn't

822
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: have the style to fight him. And what do you

823
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: call the question that that that doesn't have an answer?

824
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: Hypothetical or I don't think it's hypothetical? Like like I

825
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: hate when people say, how do you think you would

826
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: have done against?

827
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: Like?

828
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: How you think you would have done against will?

829
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: We'll never know. We'll never know. I don't know, I

830
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't know, we'll never know. Thank you, Champ.

831
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate your brother, We know you got things. Yes,

832
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: we love you.

833
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: Thank you.

834
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm serious about that training too, Okay, cool, Dwight call

835
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: you tell them you tell me you're trained me? Oh right,

836
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: you know I can tell you something you can start

837
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: doing already. Yes, shot a box? You know, have shot

838
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: the boxes is the best way because you you start

839
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: acting like you can do it already, and then you know,

840
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: if if you can shout a box and do that

841
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: for three minutes. Yeah, because you pretending how this is

842
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: how I want to look now. My bossingause, my bossing

843
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: coach told me that at eight years old. He said,

844
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: he told me he wanted but he wanted to see.

845
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Then I really wanted to do it. And he told me, say.

846
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: How many rounds? He told me to hit the heavy bag.

847
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: He said, you know, he knew that the heavy bag

848
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: was harder. He said, you hit it as hard at

849
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: you as you can. You know, I'm you're eight years old.

850
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: He said, now hit it real hard man. I put

851
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: the thing back and sam, I hit the thing that

852
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: He started laughing because he seen me. You know, it

853
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: was hard. Then he started laughing, but he started laughing

854
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: and I struck. I just kept hitting it. He said,

855
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: your hand believe, I said, I know it. He said

856
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: you're tough and I said yes, sir. And he said

857
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: you could be like Muhama because he because he thought

858
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna stop right and I did that, and

859
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Speaker 2: and that's what that's what made him continue to train. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do it. You know, from that point on,

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Speaker 2: I was good. When you said, shadow box, how many

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Speaker 2: rounds you you you want to want to start. You

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Speaker 2: want to start, two minutes, two minutes. It's all but

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Speaker 2: you you you want you want to practice in the

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Speaker 2: cause you want to look good when you, when you,

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Speaker 2: when you're doing this stuff, you want to look good

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Speaker 2: because the person who do it good, they're gonna keep

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Speaker 2: doing it a shadow box. Yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah m hm hm. Look look he got me

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Speaker 2: right there and then I came back. Bot. You see it,

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Speaker 2: you see it, champ h