WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 052822 What Can We Do About Guns? (Part 2) 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:05.040 And now my back. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:06.080 You're like that. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.840 You can strike borders with waters from head borders behind him. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.280 And if you're just tuned in Nacific cipher, I am 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:16.479 your host, ramses Josh. 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.880 I go by the name q Wares. Indeed, stay tuned. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.120 We got a lot more show to talk about. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:31.960 We're still working through some gun issues that are you know, 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:39.840 plaguing this country. And and and we recognize that guns 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:45.519 affect everyone, and so this is not just a black issue, 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.440 but it is in fact a black issue the same 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.199 as it is an issue for everyone else. In that 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.400 same spirit, I do want to recognize that this is 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:01.080 Asian American and Pacific Pacific islander heritage each month, and 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.720 we definitely want to spend some time highlighting that for 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.040 our AAPI brothers and sisters who have stood in solidarity 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.080 with us. So let's get started on that right now 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:19.160 with becoming a Better Ally Baba sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:28.040 So there's a song that we play on the show. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:32.440 It's by Dilated Peoples and it's called Proper Propaganda. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.800 We play it every show. 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.560 We just played it for the rejoin and we'll play 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.760 it again before the show is over. We we like 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.520 that song because proper propaganda kind of fits the theme 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:45.080 of the show here. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:46.840 Well. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:51.720 One of the MC's from Dilated People's put up a 0:01:51.720 --> 0:02:00.480 song called Anti Remix and it features Rocke Eye Science 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.360 to the Dilated People's Shingo to Bohan Phoenix and DJ 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:13.480 Kutso and basically it's a song kind of detailing some 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.440 of the hate experienced by some of our AAPI brothers 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:22.720 and sisters. There's also an assembl Sorry, a mixtape of 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.960 artists who make sure Asians have a place in pop culture. 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:28.760 Along with giving you new songs to obsess about. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.280 The artists on the mixtape navigate the complex space between 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:36.200 the Asian and Pacific islander in American culture. Many of 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:40.680 them have Bay roots like Jay Sam Go, Nakumura, Guac 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:47.280 Dad four thousand and others who are from overseas, and 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.080 you can find out more about that on our social media. 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.120 We'll have that up for you, so be sure to 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.440 check that out as well and support the music, and 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:03.800 in that way we can kind of bridge I'll build 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:04.520 bridges to. 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.200 Each other's community. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.360 Now we're going to discuss some other goings on in 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:22.920 the world. There is a lesser known mass shooting that 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:28.000 took place. This was that a Korean church in southern California, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.680 so I will read this comes from NBC News. A 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.440 shooting at a Taiwanese church in California that killed one 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.080 and wounded five is investigated as a hate crime. The 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:44.080 FBI says Chao, a US citizen from China, was quote 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.360 upset about political tensions between China and Taiwan. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.000 Okay, So. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:58.760 We recognize that, you know, there's a problem with guns 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.760 in this country, that people can go and buy guns 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.120 and take out their aggressions at churches, at grocery stores, 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:11.760 at schools, you name it. And we don't want to 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:16.080 turn to turn a blind eye to the hurt that 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:21.440 is experienced in other communities. So we want to acknowledge that. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.000 We believe that, you know, by working together, by having 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.440 these sorts of conversations, we can all move closer to 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.039 the goal of seeing things like this happen less frequently. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.559 But this does qualify as a mass shooting. It didn't 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:46.440 make headlines because at the time when this happened, you know, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.920 there was the mass shooting in Buffalo that killed ten 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:57.320 black shoppers and I believe there were three injured without them, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.640 So we didn't want to skip over this. We recognize 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.640 that there are fears and this it's a different there's 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:09.279 a different lens through which the world is viewed sometimes 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.680 in our Asian brothers and sisters community, same as our 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:14.840 Hispanic brothers and sisters. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.760 And so I wanted to make sure that we talked 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.960 about that. And it really wouldn't have been to be honest, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.560 and you know, apprecing to the choir here, it wouldn't 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.440 have been a skipping over so much. Supposed to have 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.800 three mass shootings to report on, and thank you for 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:40.440 saying that. So what we have is now, in short order, 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:45.240 three different mass shootings talking Buffalo, we're talking the one 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.520 at the church in southern California and of course the 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.680 school in Texas. Three different circumstances. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:06:01.200 And you know, there's a lot of folks are pointing to, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.120 you know, mental health issues in these communities, right, and 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.120 them may be well founded. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:14.920 It's also so ignorantly convenient, sure to try to use 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.880 mental health as this mask all band aid to excuse 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:34.840 very very irresponsible legislation, very very irresponsible carnivore like capitalism, 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:45.600 very very irresponsible propaganda like levels of racism. Let's just 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.400 throw mental health on it so we can make it 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.359 seem isolated and try to take the attention off of 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:56.320 the reasons why people are actually angry. You know, there's 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.840 I put a post up on my Facebook and I says, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.480 does anyone still think having more guns is the solution? 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.680 Right? Because you know that was part of the narrative 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.880 for a long time when the last president was in office. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.840 Put more guns on the street, give more guns to 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.440 teachers so they have a gun in the class, like 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.040 that sort of thing, as if that's the world that people, Yeah, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.680 as if that's the world people want to live in, right, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.600 And you know, I'm thinking by asking this question that 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.040 the answer is obvious. 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.400 Of course, you thought you were being rhetorical. That's what 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.520 I thought. You forgot the country that you live in. 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.040 I did for a quick second that optimism of mine. Man, 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.840 it took me to another place. Oh, my my friend, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:43.440 my brother. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.120 It was like the Staple singers was was calling me 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:51.880 because I was anyway. So there was a gentleman that responded. 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.200 As it turned out, he wasn't my friend on Facebook. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.920 I don't know how he my post ended up making. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:04.160 Its way to him, but he says, Chicago is a 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:08.560 perfect example of what happens when you take guns away. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.720 Now it's the murder capital of the world, right. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.080 And I could see him on his keyboard. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:23.480 I know, I know, I know, I don't know quite 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.800 like Maggie b knowing, but I do know how you feel. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:29.720 Cute. But I could see him behind his keyboard typing 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:36.679 that and getting that off and somehow thinking that he's right. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.080 You know, we can't take the guns away, so the 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:44.600 only solution is more guns. And he wields Chicago like 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.520 it's the be all end all, and now he's won. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:53.640 The argument kicks closed. He's done with it. Yeah. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.360 I immediately responded as soon as I saw it, and 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.520 I says, now, now, mind you. He says, Chicago is 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.800 a perfect example of what happens when you take guns away. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.360 It's now the murder capital of the world. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.040 I said, that statement makes sense even to the author 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:09.920 of that post. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.240 So I said, Australia is a perfect example of what 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.520 happens when you take guns away. Chicago has many other 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.520 systemic problems added to the fact that guns weren't ever 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:29.880 really taken away. Now Australia, I don't hold me to 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.080 this because I'm just remembering reading about this. But Australia 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.840 had a mass shooting there with some guys shooting people 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:41.720 up on a beach or something like that. It was awful. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:49.960 It was a national tragedy, of course. And after that 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.760 they said, you know what, no more guns, we don't 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.200 need run. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.560 No guns back. So everyone had to bring the guns back. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:06.040 And since then they haven't had those types of tragedies 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.400 where people are just mowing down folks. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.480 Let me read this or this. But in nineteen ninety 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.679 six a gunman murdered thirty five people in Australia, this 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.560 is it, and injured twenty three others at a tourist resort. 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:23.440 That was it. The country immediately moved to establish a 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:28.680 national gun registry, required permits for gun purchases, and banned 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:34.720 all semi automatic rifles and semi automatic pump action shotguns. 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:40.079 A government buy back program also retrieved some six hundred 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:48.959 and fifty thousand now banned firearms. They've had one mass 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:56.600 shooting since Okay, before those reforms they had mass shootings 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.480 and thirteen of the eighteen years. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:08.480 Okay, now I'm glad you read that, because I want 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:15.440 to add to it that in New Zealand, Q and 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:22.600 I We have a friend who is Muslim, and things 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:28.040 that happened to our Muslim brothers and sisters are things 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.600 that we pay attention to because we recognize that our 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:36.960 Muslim friend the world is very different to her. In 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:43.160 New Zealand, a white supremacist went into a mosque and 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:51.040 mowed down fifty people in the mosque, and obviously that 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.840 was another national tragedy in New Zealand. A different country 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.400 from Australia, a different country from the United States. These 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.959 are both free countries, by the way, just like the US, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:02.880 both free countries. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:04.760 You know. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.520 The one thing is that you know, people say, you know, 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.360 we have the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.920 doesn't say you have the right to bear as many 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.600 arms as you want. You know, you could have a 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.520 limit two gun. You can have a shotgun and a 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.440 handgun limit. That's it, right, It's possible, and that still 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:26.720 complies with the Second Amendment. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:27.640 You could have it. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.840 You know, we could have it even be more strict 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.360 because it could be limited to the arms that were 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.720 in existence at that time. What types of guns existed, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.400 where they are automatic guns, where they're only muskets. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.680 You know, who knows. There's ways to interpret that law 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:48.319 that makes everyone safer. It's also called the Second Amendment. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.640 It's an amendment. Google is free. I'll let you guys 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.200 Google amendment. Yeah, you can change that. They change all 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:01.400 the time again. Yeah, three days after those fifty people 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.319 were murdered in a mosque in New Zealand. New Zealand, 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.560 a free country that did not even require guns to 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:12.160 be registered, banned assault rifle, bought the guns back. Yet 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:17.800 they have not had a mass shooting since, not one. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.240 So let's talk about Great Britain. I believe that this 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:28.200 was like I feel like this is an Irish story, right, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.959 but Great Britain. There was a gentleman there. I don't 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.920 want to call him a gentleman, a guy there. He 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.640 was getting picked on or something like that. He was 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:47.640 suspected of being a pedophile nose and got a gun, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.679 went to a school, shot the school up. All right, 0:13:52.840 --> 0:14:00.000 this was this was years ago, and they did effective 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.040 did the same thing as Australia, as New Zealand. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.480 All right, no more guns. This is this is senseless. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:07.000 This is craizy. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.679 It's a national tragedy. They weren't on some thoughts and prayers. 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.320 I mean sure, but they were on some let's take action. 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:21.360 They weren't, you know, stonewalling legislation in the way that 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:30.520 the Senate Republicans are doing right now. And it's almost 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.800 like it's almost like they're rubbing everyone's faces in it 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:42.000 because the you know, as of this recording, our understanding 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.080 is that the former president and Ted Cruz and the 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:50.000 governor of Texas are all going to go to and 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:57.880 in our a National Rifle Association convention in Texas and 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:00.160 celebrate gun. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.720 Now. As you know, that's definitely attending. And the nr 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.760 I even put out a statement, yeah, in the statement 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.800 mentioning that they were convening like. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:14.400 It was ninety one percent of the people in this 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.480 country are in favor of universal background checks on guns, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:24.560 and they and the Senators will not even listen to that. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.560 They won't even debate it because it's been politicized. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.240 And the Dunblane massacre happened in Scotland. Scotland, Okay, that's 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.480 in the ninety Kingdom. So as you moved to. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.880 Post stricter gun laws because it's just it just makes sense, 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:56.800 that's what you do. This is very doable, even in 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.840 a country this big, even in a country this diverse. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.560 Of course, you don't get everything right the first time, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.920 but you did something, even if it's the wrong thing right. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.320 Because there's nothing more wrong than me having to have 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:23.360 a conversation with my child about how to protect himself 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:28.160 when he's at school in the event that the worst happens. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.280 The only reason I'm having this conversation on the radio 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:36.000 is just in case you might not know what to 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:36.880 say to your child. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.040 This is a really strange place to interject this go 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.360 for it, and it just came across my feet. I 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:52.040 don't even need the context. Texas Governor Abbott and I 0:16:52.200 --> 0:17:07.080 quote it could have been worse. So these are the 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.119 lives of American citizens. 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.600 We do recognize that there is a gun lobby, powerful 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:21.159 gun lobby. There is a very significant portion of the 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:25.080 population that equates owning a gun to being an American. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.960 Or maybe it's owning a gun and owning a Bible, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.480 which I don't know that those things for me personally, 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.919 I'm a philosophical love I don't know that those two 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:40.720 things really exist in the same place. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.880 Because, you know, for those that. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:51.320 Subscribe to the Bible or Christian ideology or whatever, my 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.320 understanding is that the Bible is. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.080 It's effectively. 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.040 A manual that teaches you how to you better, love better, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.399 to live a good life, aust life. You know, you 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.240 don't harm people, you know, serve God, that sort of thing. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.200 If I'm wrong, you know you can you can reach out. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.520 We're at Civic Cipher. Let me know if the Bible 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:16.480 is if I got that wrong. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.280 But we are, however, a walking contradict. 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.960 Sure, sure, but I'm making I'm making a point that 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.280 so there's made a better comparison. There's my point is 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.919 because the gun, you know, we say this all the 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.560 time on the show, but the gun only exists to 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:37.320 end a life, which I believe flies in the face 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.440 of everything that the Bible talks about. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.240 If you believe in the Jesus part, there's a whole 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:42.720 turn the other cheek a. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.280 Section in there, right, I'm not if I'm not mistaken, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:53.120 that's where that comes from. So having a gun, even 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:58.280 if it is to, like, I don't know, protect your 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.359 I feel like, if you need to protect yourself, protection 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.080 comes in the form of a bulletproof vest. Killing someone 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.880 comes in the form of a gun. And if that's 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.480 what you call protection, then let's call it what it is, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.160 you know. But I don't want to get too far 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.040 down this rabbit hole because I I Ramses, was not 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.600 put here to end the life you know, I live. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.240 I live today. Well, I love my son, I love 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:20.600 your son. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:21.960 I love you too. 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.480 I love my my older son. He's not here, you know. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:27.720 So that's what my story is going to be about, 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.200 not about ending anyone else's life. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.440 I didn't mean to cut you off. To you God, Well, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.840 so what do we do about it? H first time 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.240 I smiled all show? So what do we do about it? 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:53.640 I will will have a second baba, right, Steve Kerr. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.040 If you haven't seen it, please go and watch. It's 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.800 a short viral clip on your favorite social media site 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:01.320 or or you can just google it. I'm sure it's 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:08.240 on YouTube as well. He sat down, You've Kerr who 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.040 lost a parent to gun violence. By the way, thank 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.160 you for suing. I could textualize this for you. I'm 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:18.320 not a sports person, but you know I am a 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:20.280 person who pays attention to the culture. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:20.800 If you will. 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.120 So he sits down at this table and he says, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:26.040 I don't want to talk about basketball. How do I 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:28.760 talk about basketball? A bunch of babies just got shot 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.560 at school. They didn't get to go home. Parents, they 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.399 didn't even know they went to the school, and then 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:35.919 they found out. 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.960 Some didn't even find out in the moment. Right. The 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.040 count as of yesterday, I think was fifteen. The count 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.280 as of five minutes ago twenty one. Yeah, so there 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.920 are parents who are still finding out that their babies 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:52.280 were murdered yesterday. 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.000 I think that what he did is what we should do. Okay, 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.200 let's all stop. We don't need to talk about basketball. 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:05.200 You know, we don't need to. You know, I own 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.840 a nightclub. Well, watch me say this. We don't need 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.520 to go to the club. We can take a week off, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.200 we can figure something out. We could write a letter 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:18.800 to an elected representative. We could go down to an office, 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.000 we could organize, we could you know, tap in with 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.240 a group that you know something. We can't do nothing, 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.199 and obviously we cannot expect our elected representatives to do this. 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.480 And you don't want to be those people where this 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:34.600 comes to your door before you take action. I've seen 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.200 parents crying, and you know, the parents from the Parkland massacre, 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.560 the people from Post nightclub. All these folks get on 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.040 the news every time something like this happens, and they 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:47.960 say the same things. Well, their numbers are growing, but 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.720 only because their loved ones are dying. You don't want 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:52.880 to join those ranks after your loved one has died. 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.719 You want to join those ranks now. So that's what 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.119 we can do. You know, one thing I noticed. 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:04.080 During the last administration is that the buy in from 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:08.280 that side it's unlike anything you've ever seen before, because 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:13.399 even when it arrives on their door, they'll justify their rhetoric. Yeah, 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:15.879 just to not have to say I'm wrong. And this 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:20.400 is a completely unrelated topic, but there was a mother 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:24.160 being interviewed after our former president says some very very 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:30.880 vile and disrespectful things about women sexual assault more specifically, 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:33.919 and the mother kind of the mother looked over to 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:39.159 her daughters and kind of echoed the sentiment and some 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:45.520 way of everybody gets gropes sometimes, right, just as a 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:50.359 way to justify that to her own daughter. So know 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:54.119 that even when it's on their doorstep, it still doesn't 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:55.040 really call for action. 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.080 Well, I'll leave you with this. I've heard this before. 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:06.240 What do you do when you can't do nothing, but 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.879 there's nothing you can do. The answer is you do 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:13.680 what you can all right, it's time for the way 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:21.600 Black history fact. This one comes from Time magazine and 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:26.400 we are honoring our Asian American and Cific Islanders for 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.600 the AAPI Heritage Month. 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.320 This is the story of how one woman's. 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:38.159 Story led to the creation of Asian American and Pacific 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:43.720 Islander Heritage Month. So I'll read one persistent voice expressing 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:46.679 frustration towards the status quo can change the way history 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:50.960 is remembered. Case in point, Asian Pacific American Heritage Month. 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.639 The observance now takes place every May in the US 0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:58.080 and is marked by communities within the country, within the 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.760 country's twenty two point two million Asian and one point 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:04.960 six million Native Hawaiian and other Pacific islanders. And yet 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.760 despite that scale, the seeds for the commemorative month originated 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.080 from one woman. During the congressional hearing in nineteen ninety 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.480 two in which then New York Congressman Frank Horton introduced 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.520 a bill that called for May to get that designation. 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.440 He made a point of signaling out that woman Jeanie Drew, 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:25.160 a former Capitol Hill staffer who had first Approachorten about 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.040 the idea in the mid nineteen seventies. That's a long 0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:31.639 gap between the seventies and ninety two, more than fifteen 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:36.960 years earlier. She had witnessed the US bi centennial celebrations 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.160 of nineteen seventy six and was concerned about the lack 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:44.760 of recognition given to Asian Pacific Americans. Quote she thought, 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.399 what are the different ways that we can promote public 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:54.320 awareness of the contributions, says Claudine Cheng, a former president 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:59.199 of OCA Asian Pacific American Advocates. At the time, celebrations 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:01.720 for Black History Mode and Hispanic Heritage Week were already 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.679 in place. While Black History Month was decreed by President 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.639 Gerald Ford in nineteen seventy six to become a national observance. 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.760 We did an episode on that one. Hispanic Heritage Week 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.920 was designated as a national celebration by President Lyndon B. 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.560 Johnson in nineteen sixty eight. 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:19.200 Quote the right. 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.480 Thing to do was to push for the Asians to 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.040 also have a similar time during the year for commemoration 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:29.520 and celebration, quote, Chang says. And for Jue, the lack 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:34.879 of recognition was very personal. Her great grandfather Milee had 0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.240 come to the US from China in the eighteen hundreds, 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.280 and helped build the transcotton down the railroad. He and 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.600 his peers had played a key role in American history, 0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.080 but had suffered for it. In the late nineteenth century, 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:49.280 US federal law openly targeted Chinese immigrants. The Chinese Exclusion 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:52.480 Act of eighteen eighty two prevented the immigration of Chinese 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.280 laborers to the US for ten years, and was renewed 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.320 by the Gee Gee Tree Act, which additionally required immigrants 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.520 from China to gry permits at all times or faced 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.240 possible deportation. It was not until more than sixty years later, 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.919 in nineteen forty three, that Congress repealed that exclusion, and 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.480 even then the law only allowed one hundred and five 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:17.160 Chinese people to enter the country each year. I believe 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.440 it's Chinese people are the only ethnic group that has been. 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:23.520 Excluded and. 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:30.600 Targeted by law like the ethnic group written out Chinese 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.360 people outside of black. 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:39.920 Host Of course, DeFi wasn't getting that one off today, 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:42.160 so all right. 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.080 Toward those who did make it to the United States, 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.800 acts of violence were common. One incident involved seventeen men 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.480 and boys murdered in Los Angeles in what is now 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.560 known as the Chinese Massacre of eighteen seventy one. Another 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.960 involved San Jose's Chinatown being burned and destroyed. Genie Jews 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:06.679 ancestor did not escape this fate. Lee later became a 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.760 prominent California businessman. Horton a primary sponsor of the resolution 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.080 set in nineteen ninety two, when the Chinese were having 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.160 difficulties in Oregon, mister Lee traveled to Oregon and was killed. 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.919 During that period of unrest, it was a time of 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.840 anti Chinese and anti Asian sentiment. The revelations about mister 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.040