WEBVTT - Ep. 21: Bear Grease [Render] - Navy Pilots, Mr. Peabody’s Coal Train, and Why Dirt Matters 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:17.080 Yeah. My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.680 of the bear Grease podcast called the bear Grease Render 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.200 where we render down, dive deeper, and looked behind the 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:30.040 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.360 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:43.720 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. Guys, 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:48.440 We've got an exclusive bear Grease discount code for f 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.800 h F Gear that's fish Hunt Fight Gear. I've been 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.680 using their products for the last year and I love 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:58.360 carrying my gear in a chest rig or my binos 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:01.680 and their bin no harness. 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You just gotta threw it in there. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:02:00.320 And hear me say code switching in the gre that 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.120 I had correctly labeled what we were talking about. Robert 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:10.520 more going so nice. Welcome to the Bear Grease Render. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.239 My O, ma, do we have an eclectic bunch of people? 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.600 We do? We do? Yeah? Man, you got, you got, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.960 I'm gonna. I'm gonna. We may spend like the whole 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.120 render just introducing people. That's great, but all all the 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.760 regulars bailed at the same time. Of course, I guess 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.679 I might not a regular. No you're I'm just your 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:44.160 just I can't stand by here, no no, no, no 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:50.320 no so uh so. Gary Nucam is preparing for the 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.520 Newcomb Family Bear Camp. He's been scouting. Man, It's it's 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.840 pretty awesome having a dad like I've got. I sent 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.560 him essentially some white points, like I told him some 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.840 places and I was like, go see if there's any 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.120 bear sign there, and so he went and did it, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.120 reported back no bear sign. Saved me a little bit 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:13.639 of time. So we're preparing for the newcom Family Bear Camp. Okay, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.600 like big deal, Like within hours from right now at 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.080 the time of this recording, me and Isaac will be 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.800 down there and many others. But I'm gonna get to that. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.960 So that's why Gary knew come in here. Josh spill Waker, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:31.160 he is just off somewhere, just unaccounted for. I mean, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.720 I'm not even sure his wife knows where he's at. No, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:43.200 he's working over the land, confused. And then Dan Roupe Man. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.200 Dan had something to come up that he just couldn't 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.480 get out of. I was, I was wrecked when I 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.800 heard Dan couldn't be here. Truly was Brent is meeting 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.280 this at the at Bear Camp tomorrow and could not 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.000 He just couldn't come. So anyway, we got a whole 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:03.960 cast of characters to my left, Spence Terrell, Spencer Man, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.280 it's awesome to have you on the render, It's great 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.840 to be here. Home run, home run performance on the 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:14.160 Bear Grease podcast. Not a hunter but a fan of 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:23.440 Soil so yeah one time and a punk rocker. Yeah, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.200 you packed a lot in there in five minutes. I've 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.240 got a can I share a funny story about Spence 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.960 and Soil Uh. We threw a little shin dig down 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.839 here one time. We were actually celebrating my brother's graduation, 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.280 and we cooked a pig in the ground. And somehow 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.320 in the process, y'all, y'all kind of started nerding out 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:46.839 on your crops soil miromial science knowledge. And you guys 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:50.320 were working with a third person who had a degree 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.760 in classical letters whatever that is. And do you remember this, 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.720 And and you guys were and you said, man, I've 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.320 always wanted my soil science to come in. Hey, Indian, 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.040 here it is. And you guys just started, you know, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:09.720 kind of growing out. Yeah, exactly over over both. What 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.600 we had done is we dug a pit to cook 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.560 a pig in the girl profile. Yeah, a small soil profile. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.080 Y'all know. I was on the University of Arkansas soil 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:25.080 judging team. We came in last place. All the Mississippi 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:29.440 schools beat us here, But I am a collegic athlete. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.120 I consider well. And I mean, I hate to bring 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.800 it up this quick, but your wife is the Cross 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.640 County Arkansas Rice Queen former former. I mean this is 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.720 a big once a Rice Queen's former on that one, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:50.159 the Cumberland Gap. I was gonna so we tried to 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.960 get Aryl's wife on here, and she okay, so I 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.479 cryptically a couple of podcasts go talked about someone that 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.520 I did an interview with a question them about the 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.719 Cumberland up, and they just nailed it. Just bam, bam bam. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.680 Usually I'm trying to interview people that I know won't know. Okay, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.120 I'm just gonna tell you now that's not true. I'm 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.880 just trying to take a sampling of humanity, okay, just 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.919 random sampling of humanity. So I interviewed Carly and she 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.200 knocks it out of the park. I mean it was awesome. Yeah, 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.000 she just told you, told me about it, She told 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:24.839 me about it. Yeah, and then it didn't. All we 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.560 can do is talk about it and revel in the glory. 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.960 But for Spence, great to have you here, man, fantastic 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:36.839 Colby Moore head Ye, Bear Hunting Magazines very own Colby 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.359 Moore head Man. I mean, I can't talk to you 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.200 without saying this. Last time I saw you, you were 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.240 on an altar getting married. True. I mean, I'm not 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.880 trying to be dramatic here, just telling the truth. Yeah, 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:52.839 you were crowding to stay You're real close two weeks ago, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:59.159 twelve days ago, yeah, yeah, eleven. So congratulations man, newly 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:05.279 married man here similating to new life. Yeah, good to 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.760 have you, good to have you. Thank you to your left. 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:12.040 Isaac Neil Isaac, first time, first time Bear Grease podcaster. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.600 Welcome man, it's me in the flesh. Yeah, I uh, 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:21.040 first time on really excited, usually listening and text you 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.960 things unsolicited. Yes, I think last time was the guy 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.440 who commented about the cover photo. I took that personally. Yeah, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:34.480 I mean I took that personally. I took that personally. Yeah. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.560 The image that is the bear Grease image. That's me 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.160 and Izzy, my mule. Isaac took that picture. Isaac was 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.560 a photographer, and the guy said, don't let the cover 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.320 photo fool you. I stood up. I said, you know, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.200 how dare he? I didn't stand up, but I was offended. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.720 That was a that's a great picture. Like I saw 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.080 that picture. That's a great picture. It's mostly clay. I 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.560 mean to photo half an animal though, that's like a 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.960 wild card. Well now, so Isaac is a pro photographer. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:10.400 Yeah still still photographer. Yeah yeah. Checked him out on Instagram. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.760 I was like, Neil, I'm an aspiring livestock photographer. I 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.440 just can't get anybody to pay me. For it, so 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:22.640 I gotta take Maybe you can take pictures of your chicken. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:28.679 That's where a pretty good photographer on your hands there. Yeah. Yeah, no, Isaac, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.200 you just got back from where where were you? We 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:35.280 did a road trip. Uh, North Dakota, Montana, and Wyoming 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:40.800 grass hunting, grass hunting, yep, yep. So we targeted sharp 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.439 tales and Hungarian partridge in North Dakota. Uh, sage and 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.440 sharp tales and Hungarian partridge in Montana, and then blues 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.840 and sage in Wyoming. Man, you're talking about stuff I 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.200 just don't have any reference for. To be totally honest 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.720 with you, I thought there were like two Upland birds 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.200 into like three or four years ago. And my grandpa's 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.720 one of the most avid Upland bird hunters I've ever known. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.640 But I just thought there were quail and pheasants. Come 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.360 to find out, pheasants aren't even American. And anyway, just 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.720 diving into this whole world, it's been incredible. But I 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.840 thought their tail feathers kind of had like the American 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:23.280 flag strips. Yeah. Is there anything more American than stealing 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:29.000 someone else's burden making it ours? That's very good, that's 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:33.920 maybe unfair co opting. Uh, stealing is harsh anyway, Yeah, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.680 I got the call. You said, I need somebody for 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.040 the render, so I flew in. I ditched my guys 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.160 on the Upland road trip. Yes, Hungarian partridge. Are those 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:53.720 natives like to call things that are American American? Well, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:10:01.000 I mean, listen, listen the naming institutions of animals, topographic 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.160 features in this nation are could come from anywhere. Yeah, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.040 I mean, for instance, our very unbeloved Cumberland Gap. Like 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:12.679 we spent a whole podcast talking about Cumberland Gap was 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:14.800 named after the Duke of Cumberland. Who was I mean, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.440 you know on that podcast, I called him a what 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.079 did I call him? No, well, I mean he's a 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.400 Duke of Cumberland. I called him a derogatory name, like 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.960 a chump. I believe I called him a chump. And 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.400 I really evaluated that because I was like, I don't 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.000 know this guy, but I did some research and he 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.480 was truly a chump. He was a real chump. Wait, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.600 be could you becauld you what are the criteria? What's 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.720 the criteria for chumping? Well we better not get into that. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:48.679 But he was a real chump. Okay, and a whole 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.680 massive mountain range is named after him. So I could 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:57.280 see somebody coming from Hungary area and being like, I'm 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.080 naming this bird after me and dad back home, you know. 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.520 So anyway, it's a cool bird. It's like bigger than 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.319 a quail, but smaller than a grouse. So now we're 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.600 using dogs. Yep. Yeah, we had um French Brittany's uh 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:17.960 German short haired pointers, drafts, uh vishlas, a couple of labs. 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.679 You know what this? I think this upland bird stuff 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.280 is just straight up off the chain. You know, used 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:27.480 to feature the south pointers and setters. Yep, okay, And 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.480 the only thing you talked about was the difference in 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.520 the colors and your pointerers and setters, whether you have 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:36.320 a liver poer or you know, uh black pointer whatever. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.440 You know. Yeah, this is getting this is this is 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.480 almost like uh like specialty coffee, you know, like you're 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.480 talking about all these dogs and stuff. Now do you 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.680 ever hear anybody referred to a bird dog as flashy? 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.320 Is there any comes over that's if you have a 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.880 liver spotted pointer, is that a flashy pointer? That's a 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.199 good question. I think flashy is a really good adjective 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.840 for pretty much anything. Yeah. Yeah, so that's a good question, 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.080 will start. So yeah, hunting behind dogs it's um, it's 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.880 something that is truly beautiful. Like those guys, you know, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.640 I get done and I want to get in the 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.640 tent or whatever. Those guys are up for another hour 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.439 taking care of their dogs at the end of the night. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.040 Whatever can get up first, take care of the dogs. Remarkable. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.000 still an introductions, I just want to say the Hungarian 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:30.480 partridge was introduced for me. Okay, okay, good, nice, nice 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.480 fact check okay too. To Isaac's left, Misty Nekam, Welcome Misty. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.160 Good to be here always. Yeah, man, your night has 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.440 been showing up a lot on the interviews. Stop that, man, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:46.680 great to have you, fantastic have you. Um, I couldn't 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.520 do it with that too. Misty's left back from the 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:57.800 sky the American sky forest eater above. Generally, Yes, it's 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.439 good to have you, Forest. It's good to be on here. 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.800 Have you own since we last saw you? Not for 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:09.600 the Navy commercially, yes, right, yeah, yeah. I flew out 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.479 to Virginia for a buddy's wedding. Okay, that doesn't count 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.560 that what I was talking about, of course, but no Navy. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.360 So just if somebody didn't hear you, you know, I 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.160 don't know a couple of renters ago you were on. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.679 So you're a you're a Navy pilot. Now, okay. I 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.920 I'm a grown man, and I've known Forest a pretty 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.959 long time. It took me about four or five years. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.280 Uh No, you haven't been the Navy that long. It 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.079 took me how long you've been the Navy. I've been 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:39.360 in three years. It took me three years to realize 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:44.080 that he doesn't operate a boat, but he flies a 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.120 plane for the Navy. Come along, Which I mean, if 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.400 we're trying to throw our enemies off, if this is 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.560 like deep military strategy to be like the Navy's coming, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.400 We're that is brilliant. Now, when you get on a 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.360 commercial jet, are you sizing up the pilot? I would 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.839 be lying if I said I don't turn my head 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.680 a little bit. Like right as we're about to land, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.800 I'm like, I'm like, we're gonna have a nice little 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:11.800 flare here. You're gonna we're gonna slam it down. You 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.120 come in through that front doorway and the stewardess is 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:19.080 standing there or that's probably not the term anymore, is it. Anyway, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.520 you look in the cabin like, I don't know, maybe 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.760 I'll take the next one. What are you? What are 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.040 you looking for in a pilot that you're comfortable with 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:31.240 that I'm comfortable with rod shoulders? I mean just in general, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.120 when uh, those guys are thoroughly vetted, you know they 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:35.920 they've got plenty of experience to make it to a 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.080 major airline. But I mean, I just want a guy 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:43.240 who's a like, honey, you know what, you want a 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.040 guy that I can stroll up to the cabin and 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.880 be like, let me in, man, what would take the okay, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.080 you be in a pilot? Like if you just made 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.600 eye contact with a with another human that you were 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.720 about to entrust your life with thirty thousand feet above 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.960 the air, Like, what kind of vibes would you want 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.040 to be getting from? Would you on him in sunglasses? 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.440 Would you want him to look away once you stared 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.920 at him? Would you want him to give you kind 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.880 of like a you know, kind of like an open 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.360 eye like greeting. I think sunglasses is a prerequisite. It's 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.680 like you just gotta have it. You got behind so 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:24.360 much though, But you're gonna that movie about the I 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:33.560 don't have. I don't watch movies. This is not a joke. Literally, 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.640 like we are issued sunglasses. Like when in Florida when 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.600 we start our flight training, you go and you get 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.440 your cool gear and like your flight suits everything. You're like, wow, 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:42.880 I'm the best part in the world, even though I've 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.080 never flown military aircraft, but like I'm gonna be you know, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.720 they literally give you, like these sunglasses. They're nice sunglass there, Randolph. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.520 I think it's the manufacturer. So it's like that's a 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.280 prerexis like you're gonna you're gonna have those. You're gonna 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.840 you're gonna. Well, I think it's kind of it's functional, right, 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:59.200 I mean it's not so that you can look like 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.720 Tom Cruise. It's because I mean sometimes the sun's in 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:06.760 your eyes, right, especially I would think it's, yeah, you 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.800 gotta fly West. But yeah, other than that, with sunglasses off, 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.640 just someone who's who's cool, laid back, you know, with 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:17.440 someone that when things go wrong. Is it true that 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.960 I take a lot of comfort in this um. Is 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:26.800 it true that the commercial airlines are so autopilot ish 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.360 that there's really a whole not a whole lot of 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.200 human moving parts inside of flying one. Let me preface 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.360 this by saying I don't know firsthand, but I have 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.920 talked to a couple of pilots in my squadron that 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.600 basically just got their a TP, which their Airline Transport 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.720 pilot license, so they're like kind of looking to transition 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.480 into that realm. And even the aircraft that they're flying now, 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.480 like some of the air busses and stuff like that, 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.840 almost have an override such that the plane is built 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.680 for autopilot. Like if you take the yoke and you 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.960 turn it hard left, the plane is gonna stop you 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.560 with like thirty or forty five degrees based on whatever 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.840 speed you're going, so you not even the plane has 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.200 almost more control in that instance than you. Um So yeah, 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.320 the planes, again, this is my kind of uninformed opinion. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.119 It is my understanding that, yeah, that they're basically built 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.320 for autopilot. Let's see, unless there's a problem. I mean, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.359 I think that that's where you really want. There's probably 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.280 a lot. It's kind of like me, I'm teaching some 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.440 of our or at least driving with our kids while 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.080 they drive right now, and I've got a car that 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.240 beeps when you yeah, and it does all sorts of 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.000 fancy things. And I'm trying to get my kids not 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.399 to use that because I want them to develop the 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.119 skills of a driver, because if there's a problem, I 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:41.680 want them to know how to hit the brakes or 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.840 to anticipate it before lane assists. And I think that 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.200 that I wouldn't. I mean, I hear what you're saying. Well, 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:54.200 I take comfort in this because, um, to this day, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.080 every time I'm in an airplane that uh is this? 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.000 Does everybody do this? Like when you're in an airplan 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:04.120 lane and it lands, you're just like clenching the rails, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.239 the handrails on your seat. I mean not worried about it, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.360 not really anymore. I mean, if it's been a long 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.240 make sure I'm sitting straight up so I don't hit 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:18.720 my tailbone or something hard. But do you know I've 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:23.280 taken off in more airplanes than I've landed in. And you, yeah, 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.560 you've jumped out of airplane. Yeah. He likes the wind 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:31.240 in his hair. It's more of a yeah. So Spence 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.680 was in the U. S. Military for many years. How 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.879 many jumps did you make? Man? I did the five 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.160 to get airborne qualified. Yeah, my last one. My shoot 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.640 didn't open up all the way? How did that burned in? Well? 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.359 I came out and in shorter. I mean you tell me, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.600 I mean it was crazy. Tell me how you don't 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.720 die when your shot doesn't work. Well, it's a whole story. 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:56.560 But we uh, I jumped out and in the airborne 0:18:56.600 --> 0:19:00.080 like for the army, which it was really hard to 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.040 bite my tongue when you're talking about the getting issued sunglasses, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.280 because I'm like that he's just issued us some body armor. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.119 Ye good, go man. Yeah, so they're like, here's a 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:18.720 poncho that weeks um. But yeah, so when you when 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.200 you jump out, you you kind of just there's a 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.119 way to exit the plane so you don't hit the 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.560 side with all your gear and stuff, and you you 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.480 tumble and you're on a line. It's called a static line. 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.439 And as you go out, you're flipping around and you 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.920 reach it into that line and that yankster shoot open. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.359 So you're in like the prop wash, the gravity pulling 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.040 you out of the plane. The line catches. Yeah, it's 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.280 less gravity as it is stepping out and the planes 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.840 going however fast it's going. And then there's a big turbines, 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.400 you know, the propellers and you just go and uh 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.640 so anyways, that that that did it. But I had 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.800 a bad exit because I was pushed out, um not 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.760 because I wasn't ready to go as the first guy, 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.199 and the jump master was kind of trying to be 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.000 funny and I was waiting. There's a little green light 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.560 and when the green light gut goes on, you're supposed 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.480 to hear go and then you jump and it went 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.439 green and I looked at him and he didn't say anything, 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.520 and that he pushed me out, which is like terrible. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.200 So I hit the side of the plane and then yeah, 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.720 and I got when my shoe came open, it's oh yeah, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:26.680 it was like all twisted up. His blood Part two. 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.600 Clay has seen every Rambo movie was the last movie 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:40.719 I watched around yanked open and my shoot was all 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.160 kind of twisted up. You know, if you've ever played 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.280 with like a toy parachuet, that's all twisted up. So 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.040 I was going down and it would kind of inflate, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.199 and then I had another guy that was wrapped in 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.520 my lines because he get jumped out. And then when 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:57.600 it and finally I got it up and You're only 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.879 about eight hundred foot above the ground when he jumped, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.760 and so I was like, I got it up, and 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:07.800 there's a reserve. Yeah, only eight and there's a reserve 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.480 you pool, but if you're pulled the reserve, it's like 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.760 a guaranteed broken leg, like yeah, I mean, it's like 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.520 it's just gonna keep you from yeah, because you come 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.600 down like flat on your back because it's on your 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.200 your belly. And uh So, anyways, I finally got it 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.200 up about I don't know, I was about halfway down. 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.080 I got it to deploy a little. You got untangled, 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:29.919 came off the side of the plane and you're just 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.440 like free falling. You got it up in the air, 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.320 but tangle up, and so I was able to get it, 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.080 I don't It all happened very quickly, as you can imagine. 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.199 And then another guy kept getting tangled up and he 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:46.080 would run on top of my my shoot, like he 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.320 was coming down faster, and so like he would go 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.800 pump pump, pump pump, and it would collapse my shoot. 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.520 And and so we're at this point, we're about two 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.240 d foot above the ground and and it's all trees 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.639 and running out. Yeah. So then I just essentially just 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.639 hit the ground. I hit the trees, hit the ground, 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.399 So you didn't pull your emergency shot. So the shoot 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.359 must have been opened enough that it slowed me down. Yeah, 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:11.639 and I got it. I got to flare right for 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.280 I hit. But I still it's about the equivalent of 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.760 falling off like a three story building. And I went 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:19.159 hit some trees and went head first in the ground. 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:23.359 So are you serious you were shorter? Yeah? Really? Oh yeah, 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:30.240 where I don't know, somewhere in Georgia. What's the time 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.880 frame on something like that, Like from the time you 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:36.240 you jump out to the time it's it's about probably 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.880 fifteen twenty seconds if I remember correctly, because it's fast 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.560 enough that you have a good chance. I think they 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.600 want like no more than a fifth of the people 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.120 to be hurt. So it's fast enough that but it's 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.560 also but it's slow enough to keep you from everybody 0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:54.760 getting hurt, but fast enough that it's hard to shoot 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.360 you when you're going through there. Okay, so there's a practicality, 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.000 there's some practical force. When they gave you your sun jacket, 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.440 did you have to like do anything dangerous? Well, we 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:10.560 did do our parachute training, which was of course us 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.640 on a zip line doing the completely non dangerous version 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.000 of this. So we did the parachute train is like, 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:17.840 hey man, if you ever eject, it's like what feet together, 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.399 needs together, and you kind of just try to like 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.320 do the worm onto the ground to kind of absorb 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.560 the impact. We didn't have to actually jump out of 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:27.240 planes if you have to. Yeah, army guys had to 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:33.520 jump out of planes pilots, sunglasses and top gun jacket. 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.800 Did you go to dance school to learn the worm first? No, 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:39.080 they just we did karaoke training how to sing uh 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.439 you lost that love and feeling I like it? I 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.040 like it? And to kind of tie it up. Having 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.960 made that fifth jump, I got this little merit badge 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:50.240 and then in military parlance, I was called a five 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:56.520 jump chump. Bringing it back to the Cumberland. Everything back 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:03.040 in the club. Um. So there was just this week, 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.960 just this week, the Missouri Department of Conservation, it says 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:11.320