WEBVTT - Ep 80: Haim 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.120 It's the kind of thing where I really wanted to 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.960 express like how important she ever Bundan is to me, 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.039 and I just like screamed, like you are my life. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.640 Yeah. From playing a gig in a clown museum in 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.360 Hollywood to going on stage just before Beyonce when she 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.360 headlined Coachella twenty eighteen, it's been a wild decade or 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.280 so for time. I'm pleased to say that SD, Danielle 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.080 and Alana are my guests on tonight's podcast. I met 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.000 up with the Californian sisters just a couple of weeks ago, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.400 late September time, during a brief visit they were making 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.960 to London to promote their latest single, Summer Girl, but 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.879 also just to get a short break from writing and 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.400 recording their forthcoming third album. It's been seven years since 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.120 they won the BBC Soundpole here in the UK. That 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:48.959 was the early days of a journey that's seen them 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.520 win a bunch of awards, but also the diverse admiration 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.520 of everyone from Primal Screams, Bobby Gillespie right through to 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.160 Taylor Swift. Spend some time with them and it's easy 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.160 to see why they make friends so easily. This evening's 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.160 episode dips back into lots of those career moments so far, 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.040 but it begins recently this past summer when Heim flew 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.319 to London to see their childhood heroes, the Spice Girls 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.760 in concert. I'll let them tell that story. Enjoy listening. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.679 If you do like what you hear, please consider supporting 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.040 this podcast by subscribing to Loud and Quiet magazine we 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.200 ship all over the world. The information is at Loud 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.440 and Quiet dot com slash subscribe, where we will post 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.160 you our next nine issues for as little as three 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.080 pounds per month. It keeps the magazine in print and 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.600 it helps us make this podcast. The last time you 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.640 were in the UK playing shows was last summer. But 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.120 have you been here recently because did you make it 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.319 to see the Spy Skirl Show. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.200 Yeah, we did go on the Spy Skirl Show. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.160 Okay, tell me all about that experience. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.080 We flew in We were doing a charity with the 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:57.080 actress Emma Stone, and this charity amaze was like you 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.680 could pick any prize, like you're gonna take a winner 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.040 to do and like some type of like adventure activity 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.320 activity and you can pick whatever whatever you want, like if. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.079 They suggest that I think, like, you know, you could 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:11.440 get lunch with. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.799 Lunch or tea or something like that would go mit 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.720 your golfing or something, and we were like, mmm, no, 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.720 And the Spice Girls had just announced that they were 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.880 doing shows in England, and SI had the variety to 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:27.959 be like, what if we take someone to the Spice 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:32.440 Girls concert in London, And we honestly didn't think that 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.440 they were going to go for it, but they were like, yeah, 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.200 let's do it. And we ended up bringing this lovely woman, Gail, 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.520 who was a cancer survivor, and her daughter, and she 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.359 had never been out of the country before, she had 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.480 never been out of Americas. She got a passport for 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:50.240 this trip and they were so insanely lovely and we 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.200 all went to the Spice Girls concert together and between 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.320 I think the first and second song, I looked over 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:57.800 at Danielle and she was crying. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:04.000 I was gonna say, like absolutely, it was so emotional 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.320 and like so the first I forget what the first 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.040 two songs were, but they were like want to be 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:10.840 If you can't you can't dance? 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.920 That was like I think that's when I looked over at. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.080 You and you were like because I honestly hadn't. That 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.040 was the one song that I hadn't heard since I 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.640 think I was in first grade when I was like 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.880 obsessed with the Spice Girls, like truly, and I'm still 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.760 obsessed with them obviously, but in like the deepest of 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.480 the fandom, I hadn't heard if You Can't Dance. And 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.639 when I heard, I was I love this song And 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.240 just the scream, I mean everyone erupted in such a 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.440 huge roar that like it just all hit me at 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.320 the same time, and just hear started streaming. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:40.720 It's like, what get it together? Didn't y'all know the 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:41.280 Spice Girls? 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.440 That was the jet lag talking two hours? 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:46.560 Yeah, but it. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.720 Was such a good show. It was so incredible and 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:51.280 like they have so many hits. 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:52.080 You forget that. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.480 You forget how many hits. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:54.640 They have and they were such a big part of 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.400 our lives growing up, and like it was it was 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.800 like a very like we were very nostalgic, Like didn't 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.040 y'all was crying? We all like after the show, we're 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.960 like thinking about, like where were we when when the 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.080 Spice Girls came out? Like sisters, we would watch Spice 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.880 Girls as a family, like at least once a month. 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:15.400 Spice World, sorry, Spice World, Oh god, jet Lag, Spice World. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.440 I mean I literally wanted to that, Like that's what 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.039 I thought tour buses looked like like when I was 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.080 growing up, like I thought that everyone had. I was like, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.160 my corner is going to be like this, and as 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:27.919 you like, my corner is gonna be like this, and like, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.440 little did I know that that was not an actual 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.040 tour bus. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:32.480 That was a sound stage. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.960 You can stay on the Spice is what it permanently 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:38.839 and it's on air PNB. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:44.040 What, oh my god, what are we doing here? Why 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.600 do we have this podcast on the Spice Girls bus. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:48.560 We think we should for. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.880 Your thirtieth birthday, so we should do. I got a 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.200 couple of years for a thirtieth for my thirtieth birth. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.360 A couple of years. But that's the next big one. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.320 I would love this next big one. I'm going to say, like, 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.960 oh my god, that'd be cool. And then just surprised 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:01.760 me with that all act surprised. 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.720 I imagine it's just like loads of Hindus and like 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.120 pies and stuff, like I. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:08.719 Know, that's crazy, pretty incredible. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.599 That's a dream I never thought that I ever wanted 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:12.280 and now it's gonna come true. 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.840 I hope so is the biggest hint. Did you get 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:16.960 to meet the Spice Gills. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:18.520 We did really quickly. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.760 I'm they were about to sound check and we got 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.080 to meet them, and I cried. I think that's when 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.840 I cried because my nickname is baby Him and that 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.640 derives from Baby Spice and having Baby Him than me 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.080 and Baby Spice in the same place. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:34.520 Like I just two babies. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.240 It's two babies, and I like I wanted to tell 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.320 it's the kind of thing where I really wanted to 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.159 express like how important she em Abundant is to me. 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.800 And I think I was like I just like screamed, like. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.440 You are my life. I love you so much. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.360 And she was super nice, but I think she was 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.400 like super freaked out. She's like, oh my god, I 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.080 have no idea, Like this is crazy. But they were 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.160 so nice and they put on such a good show 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.400 and like it's like a real pop show. We never 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.599 really went to pop shows growing up because our parents 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.479 couldn't really afford tickets that you know, to go to 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.919 like see like insinc Spice Girls that Brittany like we were. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.000 We never really got to. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.520 Go even though to this day, I'm so devastated that 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.080 I never went to a pop show growing up. I 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.040 think it was like one of my first pop shows. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:18.839 It was great. It was fucking awesome. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.159 Were they one of the bands or one of the 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:25.680 first like artists that collectively, I've just kind of got 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.280 an image of you being at home, like having the 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.839 Spice Girls on, kind of bonding over that band. Was 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.040 that like a formative band? 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.400 Oh yeah, okay, well est he was kind of going 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.799 into like new metal metals. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.160 I was kind of living a double like a double life. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.240 Openly admit that I did the new metal thing as well. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.239 So you've got you've got a friend in that, Okay. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.960 So I was like very much into corn okay to 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:51.440 Marilyn Manson and spand called Orgy number them and Limp Biscuit, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:57.000 and I remember like going to Hot Topic and you know, 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.240 like getting all the regalia and then being so hard 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.320 and so into all those bands, and then getting home 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.400 from school my sisters when I would all get home 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.120 at the same time, and then like taking off all 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.320 of that stuff and putting on like like jack dress, 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:16.400 Union Jack dress and like like platform like union jack 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.840 boots and playing Spice Girls with my sisters. So I'm 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.119 very I was very much like when I was at school, 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.600 I was like, oh such an eye roll spice girls 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.120 like who are they again? And then literally I would 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.400 come home I'm like stop right, yeah, like doing all 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:37.040 the choreography. But yeah, new Metal was Wow, what a time. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.040 Yeah it's not aged well. But also I also like, 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:44.720 I'm not like, I'll never deny that I wasn't into it. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.120 I don't. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.640 I definitely don't hide it. And I think my bass 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.080 playing was also very like it was very much informed 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.200 by like Fieldy and like I bought a five string 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.600 bass when I got into that stuff and like you 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.400 key head the baseline. So yeah, and I don't know 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.320 if I would have I like to think that I 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:07.720 still have like a little bit of that in my 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.320 base playing. There's still like a little bit of slab 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:13.480 base that I do sometimes. But yeah, I'm still very 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.400 much I mean It'll come on like on my on 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.680 my shovel sometimes and I'll be like, yeah, we. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.720 Really want Yeah, it really took a turn, like right 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.200 at the beginning, well it's such a position. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.000 Did you get to run it? 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.440 I remember going to Sea Corn and I was wearing 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:37.480 one of those big wallet Yeah yeah, yeah, really heavy 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.640 chain a Camden market nice and afterwards there was an 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.720 enormous queue going back, like stretching along. This is a 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.040 Wembe arena, so huge qu afterwards because you had your 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.400 metal chain confiscated on the way in because they thought 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.080 it could be used as a weapon, right, and so 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.560 like we had all these like fifteen sixteen year old 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.360 kids like trying to pick up their metal wallet chains 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:07.000 an hour and a half to get away. That feels 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:08.600 like it would be a good hash on Twitter, isn't 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.280 it that you're. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.840 Was that kind of like your you think, like the 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.680 fad that you were kind of a part of, like 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.160 when you were in like high school in middle school? 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.079 Yeah, was that, like I think? 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.400 I think, I think definitely, But then I too that 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.280 was kind of I suppose it was a gateway then 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:25.600 to sort of like heavier and more experimental bands. Like 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.720 after that, I went and listened to bands like at 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.360 the Drive in and got really excited about that, and 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.720 then for a while I was I didn't really admit 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:33.160 that I. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.959 Loved and then the strokes came out right exactly exactly, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.520 and then you got skinny jeans and convers we. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.319 Talk about that, like the switch over to one of 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.600 the strokes came out like literally my life changed. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.720 Yeah, it doesn't feel like musical like eras are defined 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.360 quite the same way now, does it. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:52.440 Yeah, I feel like it's in hindsight. I feel like 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.360 like I feel like in ten years will it'll we'll 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.280 see like the Divide almost. I feel like it's hard 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.720 when you're in it to like decipher what genres are 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.839 or something. I don't know, I think, yeah, I think 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.960 at times it takes time, But I. 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.480 Do feel that was like a definitive like we had. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.840 I had like black eyeliner and like gauges in my 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:19.079 ears and like I don't know, like a bleach blonde mullet. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:19.600 Yeah. 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.200 And then I saw the video for Last Night and 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.160 I remember like unscrewing my gauges like feverishly and like 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:30.120 wiping black eylander off of my eyes, and I bought 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:35.720 an army jacket the next day through that. I actually 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.559 do still have that paper. Actually I didn't get rid 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:39.880 of any of like that stuff. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.920 I kept everything metal memory. Yeah, when you released the 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:48.680 debut album like twenty thirteen, it was like the early 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.840 years of streaming wasn't it like that was starting to 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.280 become a thing. And like at that stage, like the 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.120 idea of genre and like boundaries kind of melted away 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:57.560 a bit more, and it was just this sense of 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.320 people when it came to music being like, you like 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.760 what you like, and there didn't seem to be any 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.640 of that stuff we just talked about with Neu metal 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.760 and being kind of like these days, it doesn't matter 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.320 if you like hip hop, if you like new metal, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:10.840 if you like jazz or whatever. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.000 It all just goes together, live kind of together in 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:13.760 the same place. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.640 Yeah. And I think with time, like when you arrived 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.800 one minute you're on stage with or Big g Lespie 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.480 from Final Scream and like seemingly like two minutes later 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.960 supporting Taylor Swift or something like that, And it feels 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.360 like genre has never been it's never really been something 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.080 that comes into heime because your world seems very open. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.079 Has it ever been like a conscious thing or is 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.920 it just you've always just been very open minded, whether 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.160 it's Spice Girls or whatever. It might be Metallica or something. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.680 I just think we've always loved like a lot of 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.160 different types of music. And I think growing up, you know, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.760 we also went to like an arts high school. I 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:49.640 was always around a lot of jazz musicians, and I 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.760 love jazz, and I loved all my friends, but they 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.839 were always so they had such strong opinions about certain 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.880 types of music, and it always just turned me off. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.600 So I feel like we've always just been very open 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.080 minded about music. And also like growing up loving spice girls, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.319 loving pop music, We've always just been kind of pop 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:11.120 fans but also liked a lot of different types of music. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.680 And you know, I think, yeah, I just think we've 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.920 always just dabbled and all different types of things. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.040 And then I mean, I I've talked about this, I 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.600 think a lot, but I went to university for world music. 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:29.560 I think that also came from listening to a lot 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.120 of different types of music growing up because of our 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.320 parents and they were such big music lovers, and we 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.400 listened to a lot of like Bulgarian music growing up 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.240 and Tehano music. And I think that also. 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.599 Yeah, And I always too it like I feel like 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.240 every time like we'd see like an old documentary on 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.079 you know, like Tom Petty or like the Beatles, like 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.880 they were always just saying I mean I remember Tom 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.320 Petty saying like a really an early interview with him, 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.240 and he was just always like I just wanted to 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.080 like learn songs on the radio. And I always like thought, yeah, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.240 me too, Like that's all I want, like the radio. Also, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.240 we always talk about this too, because we've thought about 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:12.440 this too. But we also trace kind of our musical 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.880 knowledge back to like always being driving in our cars, 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.160 like with our parents in LA because we were always 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.040 in the car. You're always stuck in traffic, you're always 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.360 going to one side of the city, and we you know, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.959 at that in the nineties, my parents, we didn't have 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.960 like a CD player in the car, we hardly had tapes, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:30.920 so we would just listen to the radio. And we're 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.360 so lucky. In LA there's so many different types of 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:38.160 radio stations. It's like, you know, the the oldies station 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.680 which played like now it plays. It's so funny because 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.760 when we were growing up, it was just fifties, sixties 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.720 and seventies, and then like gradually now it plays like 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.880 early two thousands, and we're like, oh my god, it 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.000 plays like. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.640 I was like, oh my god, all these songs are 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.840 so old, and now I know songs that are played 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.679 on the oldies station that like came out like when 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.720 I was like seven, and oh my god, I'm the 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.400 oldies station now. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.800 But yeah, I mean that, and then like obviously the 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.439 pop stations and then the alternative stations on the rock stations. 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:06.800 I think it's a little different here. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.120 Yeah, we say there's so much choice. I totally get that. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.640 When when you're in LA that is the thing you 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.760 almost like just hop in between stations, like you you 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.080 It's the equivalent now of having the choice of one 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.240 hundred different playlists on Spotify totally and you just go, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:22.320 I just want a bit of that and I want 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.880 to be Yeah, like American radio is a bit like that, isn't. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.400 You just will go, you change, you switch the dial, 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.600 and it's something different. In the UK, it was a 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.360 smaller group of maybe more influential radio stations because they 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:33.960 there wasn't as much choice. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.040 Right, I mean I think also we didn't. We were 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.320 kind of late also to get CD player. I think 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.480 the first CD player we got was like in the 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.080 late like early two thousands. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.840 I think I like just started and just started eighth grader. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.160 Yeah, so like we just would listen to the radio 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.520 all the time and a CD walkman. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:52.560 When she got see. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.760 Yeah, once we got Yeah, I think I got I've 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.200 got my first CD walkman, I think in like eighth 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.119 eighth grade. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:14:59.960 Fold out thing. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.560 Yeah, I still have one that has DVDs in it. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.040 Yeah, what a time. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.200 We're gonna bring it on tour so we can watch 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.320 DVDs in the van. 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.280 The best thing in high school was getting like mixed 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:15.480 CDs like that. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.440 He was like, I spent so much time doing mix 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:23.640 CDs because I loved creating, like the I made like 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.920 booklets for them, and like I remember getting all like 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.160 old magazines and like chopping them up and doing like 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.480 collages for all my friends for their mix CDs. Yeah. 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:32.160 Lost. 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:37.120 The first time I heard like Animal Collective sung tongs, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.160 it was like on a mixed ed and I was like, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:40.960 it was like that. But then I think it was 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.480 also maybe cap Power something, and I think that must 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.240 have been in ninth grade, and I was like, wow, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.120 like I'm in high school and listening to is. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:50.040 That the one that Dylan made? 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.520 I think? So, yeah, God, I wish. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.720 There was like a really romantic equivalent of that. Now. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.600 I guess it's just. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.800 Like sending a playlist. I don't know it like is. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.800 A digital link that where it's like if you got 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.200 given a CDR that somebody had like handwritten all the 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.680 things on the track, and you'd be like, oh this 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.920 this person like really likes me or that kind of 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:13.960 or you know, my friend really wants me to get 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.040 into get out of Newmail and get into and we'll collect. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:18.400 Yeah funny. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.120 I think people before that, well, like my uncles and 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:23.600 aunts would be like I remember when I used to 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.160 send mixed tapes to people, like that's a lost art 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.440 and I'd be like, oh my god, uncle Rober're sold, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.440 but now it's actually. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.880 My first boyfriend did send me a mixtape. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.480 Yeah, he was so cool. 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.560 Hely sent me. This must have been in what two 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.520 thousand and six one, Like CDs were like readily available, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:47.400 but he sent me like a mix tape. There was 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.720 a lot. He was actually from Canada and he was 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.880 the first person to show me FIST because I think 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.800 let it die. I'd like just come as before the 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.840 reminder and yeah we were big FIST fans. But yeah, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.239 Broken Social Scene, all that, good. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.760 Great bands, Arcid Fire, Yeah there was a collection. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.639 Yeah. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.200 So the first time that I ever met you, ever 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.320 spoke to you, was in twenty thirteen. It was January 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:22.199 because you just won the BBC Sound of Pole and 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.600 that's almost seven years ago. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.600 Now, I know, crazy and it's gone. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.720 Really so quickly. When you think back to that time, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.439 that period of kind of almost going through the process 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.600 of being a band that starts getting talked about that 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.399 you know, the classic hype cycle. You know, people you 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.400 know tipping you as a new band and everything else. 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.800 The BBC Sound of Pole and then going into UK 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.359 festival season. I seem to remember that following summer you 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.840 played Glastonbury and Ready and Leads and things like that. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.879 How do you look back on that period because it 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:53.000 must have been. Yeah, just the process of going through 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.399 being that kind of hyped, brand new band and you 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.520 suddenly just submerged in this world. It was just take 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:01.240 it to was. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:02.480 It was crazy. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.240 I mean I think I had the best last time. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:06.960 We look back and we're just like, oh, it's so fun. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.280 Like, well, we had been playing in LA at that 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:14.040 point for seven years, playing every venue possible in LA, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.560 like yeah, Cloud Museum, Yeah, Like we had been playing, right, 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:18.560 was it five years? 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:19.800 What was it at that point? 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.239 Seven o seven was our first gig, but we'd been 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.679 writing music but like, how long had we before we 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:25.320 came to the UK. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.680