1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Our hungry for a fifty. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 3: Burger, I'll take a regular burger from the Chris Westling 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 3: podcast studio. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: It's Around the NFL. 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 3: I'm Dan Hansis I got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: It is the official Week five preview show Draft edition. 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 3: That's dog won't say no to a burger, No more, not. 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Out of one, I mean, but also fifty burger we've 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: already experienced in the first past, so the season of 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: seventy burgers, So you're are we going to take it 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: down a notch? 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: We're gonna accept less and people send it my way. 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: GREGI now because I've I've hit out against a big 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: next gen about twenty one miles per hour. Yeah, it 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: toss being It's like, well, surprise me Reek wooland chasing 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: down a ball carrier of this past week hit twenty 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: two and I know that's supposed to impress me, and 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: it does. Beautiful athlete that Greek Wolan go from tuerk 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: two Reek, it's offseason. I missed that and then everybody 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: started doing it. And now this was my first maiden 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: voyage of Riquel. 23 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 4: Why does it annoy me? It's it's his choice. 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: But it's like how many players are going to change 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: their names, Like when I start to understand who they are, 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: then they go in another direction, down a different scenam. 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety two. I was twelve years old and I 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: had gone by Danny Hansis to that point wow, and 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 4: I went to made the shift. 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: I went to my mom, I said, Mom, I think 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 3: I want to go by Dan and she rubber stamped 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: it and I'll always love her for that. 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: So you were twelve? 34 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 5: But was it hard at school? Did they not catch 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 5: on for a while. I don't remember the branding being difficult. 36 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: I feel like it happened. It's a campaign, you know. 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 4: I got to get the teachers involved. 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: My dad still hasn't really gotten well. 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: My family any any My family didn't transition, but they 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: don't have to do that. But my point is, twenty 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: two miles per hour is great. I want to see 42 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: somebody with the ball in their hands at twenty two 43 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: because it's different. I think you're right well out sprint 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: chasing down You're right is impressive. I like, do you 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: keep it back to me? 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: You keep issuing new demands, like we understand that when 47 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: that happens, you'll need twenty three. 48 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: When Jon Robinson and maybe has to be on a 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: different team hits the open field on a breakaway and 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: he's going twenty two. 51 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Are you impressed they? Are you impressed that Greg runs 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: twelve miles an hour? Yes, for a man of his. 53 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: Age, that's great. 54 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 5: I mean he saw me on the softball field. That 55 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: was very quivers pretty fast. 56 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: I think one of the reasons why the Shield was 57 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: so successful is we had many types of players which 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: every roster, no matter the sport. And Greg was that scrappy, 59 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: pesky slap it through the whole take the extra base. 60 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the jack of all trades. 61 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 4: Defensively, you were You were a value add for us 62 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 4: and I thank. 63 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 6: You for that. 64 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: It's a great one year signing, right, I believe it 65 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: was a one year deal. 66 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: All right, This is like I said, the Draft edition 67 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: of Around the NFL Week five already and let's get 68 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: to it. The first overall pick is presented by Draft Kings. 69 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna surprise you guys because it's not It's not 70 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: a ker of a week in terms of matchups. There's 71 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: no Bills Miami here. Good job by Gregy with the 72 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: way things fell for him, he was able to take 73 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: a no doubter or So I'm looking up and down 74 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: this list and I'm saying, what's the game that I 75 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: most want to watch? And this is gonna be a 76 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 3: surprise because one of the teams barely squeaked out their 77 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: first win last week. But the first overall pick will 78 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: be Chiefs at Vikings. And I'm gonna tell you, Okay, 79 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why. 80 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: First of all, I always have a soft spot for 81 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 4: the Vikings and Kirk Cousins. I just enjoy watching them. 82 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: They may not be good, but they're never boring. 83 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: And you have a Chiefs team coming off a battle 84 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: here against the Jets on Sunday night where and you 85 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: saw the on social media it was floating around there. 86 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: That was the first game ever where Patrick Mahomes was 87 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: outplayed and they had different metrics for what that means 88 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: to be outplayed, and with Zach Wilson, so you know Mahomes, 89 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't sit well that that was the stage he 90 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: was on and that's how he performed. Even though they 91 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: won that game with some hope from the officials. My 92 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: analogy here the Vikings and by the way, this is 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: a Chiefs laying four and a half and a fifty 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: three over under. And that's part of my point here. 95 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: The Vikings are like a big dumb golden retriever. They're 96 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 3: cute and they they're fun to play with, and they're 97 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: and in general you like to hang out with them. 98 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: But they also do stuff like relieve themselves in the house, 99 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: or chew up things when they're bored, and and and 100 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: make bad decisions. 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Run away a lot. 102 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: And it's just like, oh my god, this thing is 103 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: so dumb. But it's it's it's cute and it's fun 104 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: to have around. And the Chiefs are like this professionally 105 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: trained German shepherd and it's it's been through battles, that's 106 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: been tested. It knows when to attack and knows when 107 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: to behave it's it's beautifully trained. I like the idea 108 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: of the Chiefs going into Minnesota, into this environment where 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: you have this big dumb retriever running around all over 110 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: the place and drawing out some a little bit more 111 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: excitement out of the trained German shepherd and let let's 112 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: have some fun and let's throw the ball around the 113 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 3: yard and let's have a nice shootout in Minneapolis between 114 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Vikings. 115 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: And you got Tony Romo on the call. That adds 116 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: a little I. 117 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: Like that too, Nanson Romo with Tracy Wolfson, and it's 118 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: not a surprise to me. Romo on Patrick Mahomes. That's 119 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: a new concept. 120 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: But the thing about the Chiefs is they're quite different 121 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 5: though this year. 122 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: So I find that compelling. 123 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 5: I know you like, for instance, Mark the Rams are 124 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 5: like they have a different feel to the Rams and 125 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 5: they've had the best packers. I know the Chiefs aren't 126 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: quite there because it's Mahomes and it's Andy Reid, but 127 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: they are rather different. I mean, the receiver issue is 128 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 5: an issue. Travis Kelce has had a relatively slow start 129 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: to the season. I think their most dynamic wide receiver 130 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: is a gentleman named Rashie Rice, who on a team 131 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: like mine Soda would be the number four receiver. So 132 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 5: it's like they're really not that talented in terms of 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: their wide receivers. But their team, their fans really think 134 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 5: this is the best defense we've ever had. 135 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: Are they though? 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 5: I mean they weren't great last week, Like this is 137 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: a good test for them against a good Minnesota offense 138 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: and more importantly, I think long term for the Chiefs, 139 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: I really love the way they ran the ball against 140 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 5: the Jets, the way they've run the ball the last 141 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 5: couple of weeks. We know the offensive line is good, 142 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 5: and seeing the Chiefs be able to run the ball 143 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: in key spots is a little different with Pacheco than 144 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: they have been throughout the course of the Mahomes era. 145 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 5: I know Pacheco was a big factor last year. He's 146 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 5: even bigger factor this year. And I think that's where 147 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 5: you can get after this Vikings defense, which is improved 148 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 5: this year. They're not the total sieves that they were 149 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: a year ago. Yeah, you're right. 150 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like, so the Chiefs have six players with 151 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: one hundred plus receiving yards from one side one pov. 152 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: It's like, well, they're versatile, They're spreading the ball around. 153 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of different ways to move it 154 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: from another angle. It's like this is kind of part 155 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: two of the post Tyree Kill world, where last year 156 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: they deserve and received a ton of credit for figuring 157 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: it out winning the Super Bowl, and it was it 158 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: was without a true star wide receiver. It was like 159 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: a patchwork a group of guys. It feels a little 160 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: less effective through the air this time. I mean, I 161 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: thought he threw a terrible interception last week Mahomes, but 162 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: then everyone like freaks out when that happens. It's like 163 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: he's still allowed to do that. And I think they 164 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: can work their way through the mistakes, and I think 165 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: they'll probably look a little different even a month from 166 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: now than they do. I like the Golden Retriever thing. 167 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: The Vikings vibe that way to me. I don't think 168 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that Bryce Young felt that way when Harrison Smith was 169 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: coming at Hi about one hundred and sixty two miles 170 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: an hour and blew him up three times. Hey, Bryce, 171 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: you know feel it? Well, that's a different guy. They 172 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: don't know. Team in the league blitzes more than the Vikings. 173 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: But I don't think that matters against Mahomes. He's proven 174 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: that time. 175 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: I'd be that against Mahomes. But aggressive, that's who they 176 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: are on the floor. 177 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: So I really do think this defense has a different 178 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of energy to it. They're attacking, this is a 179 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: this is a matchup that doesn't help in that situation. 180 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: It helps against Bryce Young with a terrible offensive line 181 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and he can't see the it's not so helpful when 182 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, who I think in the last two years 183 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: has added like he's always he always was a good scrambler, 184 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: but what we've seen in the last last season in 185 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: to start this year, his work on the ground is 186 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: like this whole other level up aspect of Mahomes that 187 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: makes them so dangerous, like especially on third and long, 188 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: especially in the red zone. It's like he's getting better 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: really well. 190 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: I don't think they planned on this, it's just been necessary. 191 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 5: But you're right, he's the most valuable rushing quarterback in 192 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: the league right now according to QBR and I get 193 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: it because every time he runs the ball it's a 194 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: first down and that's part of how they measure it. 195 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 5: But his yards per game, it's way higher than it's 196 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 5: ever been. And I know it's against Carolina who's had 197 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: some struggles defensively, but I was really encouraged by the 198 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 5: way the Vikings blew open holes in the running game. 199 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: Wow, they looked really. 200 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: In sync last week and Madison ran well and Akers 201 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 5: ran well, and they added some new elements to their 202 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 5: running game. And I think that's the way you can 203 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: slow down the chief. So if that's consistent, and this 204 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: is a pretty good offense at the Minnesota Vikings. 205 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: I think you got a good We knew that right, 206 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: like we knew this is we know they were going 207 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: to repeat last year running game. 208 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: I was starting to have my doubts in last week. 209 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 5: They really they I think they were like six seven 210 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: yards per carry. 211 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: They were really good. 212 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm with you, like the idea that Kansas 213 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: City's defense is way better this year. I'm kind of 214 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 3: into your theory you've been kind of putting out there 215 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: the last couple weeks. 216 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Greg. Like defense, it's so much up. 217 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 3: The dependent and like a quote unquote good defense or 218 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: a well coached defense with skilled players, they're gonna make 219 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: average and bad teams look terrible and then make your 220 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 3: defense look great. But let's see what the case defense 221 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: looks like against Kirk Cousins when he's locked in and 222 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson and Madison get loose and these wide receivers 223 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: that are doing things besides Justin Jefferson and t J. Hockinson, 224 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: who's such a great fit for their offense. I love 225 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: this game. Can't wait to watch you guys before we 226 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: move along. Yeah, Hey, Eric, hey, everybody, I'm a done. 227 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: By the way, it's doing good. I was talking to 228 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: you the other day about it. It's the human body 229 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: is pretty crazy. Yeah, it is growing back normal, it's 230 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 3: but what about the sci fi aspect of. 231 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 6: Nothing gnarly, nothing too crazy. It's kind of upsetting. I know, 232 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 6: it feels a little weird. 233 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: Have you caught anybody you know their eyes drifted? 234 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: No? 235 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 6: No, because I mean just based on what it was 236 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 6: like to start. You saw the picture how yeah they 237 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 6: look mangled. I mean it just looks like. 238 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: You know how people talk, like when the word was 239 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 3: trickling through the office that yeah, oh yeah, Eric, you 240 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: know he works with the podcast team. Great guy, you know, sneaky, 241 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: good looking. Yeah, and all this like, uh did you 242 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: see you hear about his stumb? He lost half his hand, 243 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: like you know how the people talk. So have you 244 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: noticed anybody kind of just No, I think news is spread. 245 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: That's like, hey, he doesn't have a nub, so I'm 246 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: not as cool anymore. But before we move along in 247 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: the draft, guy, wait a minute, good check out. 248 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: But if human beings changed, like you're you literally are 249 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: a human where your thumb is growing back, I've never 250 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: heard of this before, Like I did Van Go's ear 251 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: grow back, like there's a lot of examples of like 252 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: losing body parts. They're not like, Oh, then suddenly two 253 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: months later, ears returned, Like I don't I want to 254 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I need to see it. 255 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 6: I think I had enough of it remaining to kind 256 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 6: of just make up for the lack. 257 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Of casting doubt on Eric's story. I I it's an 258 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: area where I'd like to have an eyewitness, like you. 259 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Know, I mean I have had some good picture. 260 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: I have a picture I can show you. Well, we'll 261 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: deal with that off. 262 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 4: I think I think on Bounce and Go chopping off 263 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: his ear was good for his career, and we probably 264 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: don't leg there's no medical follow up. 265 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: He got a lot of pop. 266 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, not the worst, not the worst thing for Eric. 267 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think he was in 268 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: a great place when he did that, Mango. 269 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 4: But that's fine. You're right, it was a nice career move. 270 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 6: But okay, yeah, before we move on in the draft, guys, 271 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 6: that's what we're doing. Yes, we do have somebody else 272 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 6: who wants to weigh in on this. Chief Vikings game. 273 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 6: Has he come out of the darkness? 274 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Hello? 275 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 3: Heroes with the Showman Nick starting us off zero and 276 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: two on the season. 277 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: We decided to guess what, No. 278 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: Eddie, they're not lockable at this point. 279 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: Now back he's sitting over here with his Tom Brady jersey. 280 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: On Ah, I love it. I think this week we'll 281 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: go with the new goat. Here are we going with Mackie? 282 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 2: The Jeeves, Patrick Mahomes the new goat? 283 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: Lock it up? All right? So Nick cast out, Well, 284 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: big chair, it's a performance related business. 285 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 5: Wow, Phil and his great son Mackie. We're in a 286 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: fantasy that our kids are in a fantasy league with him. 287 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: And uh wow, Mackie. I think he's only about twelve 288 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 5: or thirteen. I'm not sure how old Mackie is at 289 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 5: this point, but he was giving me the business uh 290 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: on text this week, giving me grief, saying he that 291 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: his dad can't pay the rent because of the old 292 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 5: rain maker. 293 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: Well, we've been warning you about that is a real 294 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: Now let's come now, it's you know, come home to roost. 295 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 4: Have you thought any more about little bucktooth Susie? 296 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: You know that's He also said, how come Nick got 297 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: a code for NFL Plus and we didn't. I mean, 298 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 5: he comes with the hard question and we're working on 299 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 5: everybody looking for handouts these days. 300 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 7: That was the game of the Week presented by Draft 301 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 7: King sports Book. New customers can bet us five dollars 302 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 7: and get two hundred in bonus bets. Instantly download the 303 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 7: Draft King sports app and use code ATN that's code 304 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 7: ATN only at Draft King sports Book. Draft King sports 305 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 7: Book an official sports betting partner of the NFL. 306 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: The second pick in the draft goes to Mark. All Right, 307 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 4: you are right. 308 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: It's an interesting landscape and I kind of like it 309 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: because I sometimes reached with my pick and then it's like, oh, 310 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: it's a bad draft pick. Look, it's like it's the. 311 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 4: Game I want to watch. So what's the other measuring stick? 312 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: Okay, we got it, all right. Anyways, I am going Carolina, 313 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: who are getting ten points in this game against Detroit. 314 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm on. 315 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: I want this Lion's team. 316 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: I told you last week, like I choose when I 317 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: become organically interested in something, and it's not when I'm 318 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: told to. And a year ago I was sort of, 319 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, we're making this thing, and it's like, I 320 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it was a logical team of atl pick, but 321 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: I like them now Now I like them and they're 322 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: interesting to me, and I love who they are. They're 323 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: a team to me from another generation on some level. 324 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Well welcome. 325 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like once actung babyk Okay, I know, 326 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know the two of you 327 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 5: will spin it in a way that you can walk 328 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 5: around the hallways giggling at. 329 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: But it's like, I literally am just there. 330 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: I like them now because I like them, and I 331 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: love the fact that like they've changed a lot uh 332 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: to me on defense especially. I mean they are a 333 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: team that is allowing sixty yards per game on the ground, 334 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: best in the NFL. That tells me, right there, checkulator Panthers. 335 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: There's no way out for a low octane Panthers offense 336 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: that looked completely lost last week against those Vikings and 337 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: made the Vikings defense look like a monster. 338 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: I mean they punished Bryce Young uh left and right. 339 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: I never thought David Montgomery, I never liked the what 340 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: they did with their with their backfield, to be honest, 341 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: when they got rid of Swift and like the rest 342 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: of the crew, and you bring in Dave Montgomery, who 343 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: I never was as big of a fan of as 344 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: like some of our people in the building here, and 345 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: like he was Hughes used like thirty two times last 346 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: night last week for a twenty one yards, the single 347 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: biggest workload of the season. It works. They can run 348 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: the ball, they got a great offensive line. Jared Goff 349 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: right now is PFF's number three quarterback. I think that's fair. 350 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: I think it's like we talked about it yesterday with 351 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Nick Chuck and Key Index. 352 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing braggy there. That just makes sense. 353 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: It's it's a little it's a little escalated from I 354 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: think who I think the player is, but like you 355 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: got to base it off his actual performance this year, 356 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: and it's like he's always fit in this offense and 357 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm all right with him. 358 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 5: It's like any Dalton was like number five for them 359 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 5: last year, which is I think those types of quarterback 360 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 5: pretty well with PFF. Guys that don't make mistakes and 361 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: they throw. 362 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: Gough doesn't make. 363 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Gough not did not make mistakes down the stretch last 364 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: year and he's not made and that was sort of 365 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: his calling card. Under pressure, he'd start to see ghosts 366 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: and create chaos. And I just don't see how the 367 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers right now, Like I watched them last week 368 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: and it's. 369 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: Like the they. 370 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: Seem to be going in the wrong direction, and in fact, 371 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: I think, like, I don't, I know you want to 372 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I know you want to like grow Bryce Young, I 373 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: be I'm concerned about where Bryce Young is at this point, 374 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: and I think Andy Dalton would give him a better 375 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: chance to win. But that's not what we're doing it. 376 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Bryce Young on passes of under ten yards has a 377 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine point two like rating. Okay, yes, like that's 378 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: what their offenses like a massive amount of their yardage 379 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: and their completions are behind or at the line of scrimmage. 380 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: On throws of ten plus yards, is rating dips to 381 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: twenty five point one. He's struggling downfield. They don't got 382 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: a great cast of weapons, and I just don't see 383 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: how you stop a Detroit team that right now feels 384 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: like they're just a rock rolling downhill. 385 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: I thought that was Bryce Young's best game. 386 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: I did go back to watch that one to see 387 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 5: on the coach just from just like where's this guy at? 388 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: And look, I don't think they were dominated. 389 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: They had four drives of over ten plays ten eleven, 390 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 5: fifteen to fifteen, and it just shows how unexplosive they 391 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 5: are that they're working so hard, like at the end 392 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 5: of the game, they need to score a touchdown and 393 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: they go on a seven minute drive to get in 394 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 5: position for it. That ends horribly, where Bryce Young did 395 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 5: absolutely look like a rookie. But I'm not that worried 396 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: because I think he makes pretty good decisions. He looks 397 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 5: comfortable in the pocket, and the situation around him is 398 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 5: so bad that I think that's been a little underrated. 399 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: They are dead last in the NFL and run block 400 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 5: win rate, maybe the worst running team in the NFL. 401 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 5: What do you want to give a young quarterback like 402 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 5: a good running game? They are twenty sixth in uh DVOA. 403 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,719 Speaker 5: In terms of their defense, their defense is terrible, Like 404 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 5: they're dead last in run defense. As a defense, they 405 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 5: can't get off the field defensively, and I feel like 406 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 5: Bryce Young has taken everything and he hasn't looked good. 407 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 5: But I thought he looked a little better coming off 408 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 5: the buy where it's like he's come out better than 409 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 5: some rookie quarterbacks where it's a fiasco. I think this 410 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 5: is a very tough matchup and it's it's ultimately not 411 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: gonna look good for him, But like, long term, I'm 412 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: not that concerned because the first month of a guy's career. 413 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 5: It can lie to you, you know, like RG three 414 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 5: was way ahead of Russell Wilson and maybe even Andrew 415 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: Luck that year. 416 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: All right, so hold on, like just so I don't 417 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: get like a bunch of hot takers coming. I'm not 418 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: ill fading his career. No, I know he's not been impressive. 419 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: I want to point to one drop, and it's the 420 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: whole offense. It's not just on Bryce Young, but day 421 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: at a point where they had seven shots inside the 422 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: eight yard line to generate points and it was a 423 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: hoajpoge of drops, incomplete passes, poorly thrown passes, field goal 424 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: And you're right, it took him a long time to 425 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: get down to. 426 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 5: That's like, to me, that's partly coach, because I think 427 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 5: he's showing he can. We've been on We've been on 428 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 5: the Frank Reich thing like all season. I think this 429 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: is not Frank Reik, who's maybe a little over celebrated. 430 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 5: Is like what he's going to bring to you out 431 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: of the gate, Like their offense isn't that creative. They're 432 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 5: not doing a lot with Bryce Young that puts Bryce 433 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 5: Young in a great place. And you're right, they don't 434 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 5: have a ground game and they're facing the best run defense. 435 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: Panthers had a real chance in that game last week. 436 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: They were up thirteen to seven inside the Minnesota thirty 437 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: and then Bryce doesn't hold on to the ball, leads 438 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 3: to the touchdown, and then you know, the vision and 439 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: that stuff. 440 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: He's going to learn. 441 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: But Harrison Smith is doing the same thing over and 442 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 3: over again, and he's just not sensing Harrison Smith is 443 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 3: coming off the edge flying, and that leads to the 444 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: end of the game. And and but like I also, yeah, 445 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: definitely saw things he does. Maybe this is just a 446 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: me thing, but I don't like small quarterbacks I kind 447 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: of style, and he just feels you know that that 448 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: gets me nervous. But that's also not fair because you know, 449 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: he's been successful his whole life so far. But they 450 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: even said during the telecast, like, hey, this isn't Alabama anymore. 451 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: Like when these guys are flying off the edge, they're 452 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: not just looking to take you down, they're looking to 453 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 3: take the ball away. So he's learning, and maybe he's 454 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: not at at the level where maybe CJ. Stroud is 455 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: right now, or maybe it's more a situation than set up. 456 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 3: But overall, yes, I thought there was progress last week, 457 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: and I don't think he's by any means like a mate, like, 458 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: oh my god, is this a Zach Wilson situation. 459 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: Lance like I'm not there with him. 460 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 3: But I think maybe he's he's suffering a little bit 461 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: because the other young quarterbacks taken around him are doing 462 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 3: well and jumping out early. 463 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: On to works. But also, I mean, i'd say they're 464 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: not in that game. They were in that game because 465 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: of the offense. They're in that game because of a 466 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: ninety nine yard pick six on Kirk Cousins and other 467 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: various writings gaffs the payment a position to score. 468 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 5: And partly because they just kept the ball for so long, 469 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 5: which is like that, That's what I mean, where he 470 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: he's not going to wow you, and he's he's not 471 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 5: there yet and it's meant to right. This is a 472 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: spot where like the Lions are out of the lock zone. 473 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: What a world we're living in. That's got to be 474 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 5: a first in the history is NFL. It's ten points. 475 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 5: And the one thing I didn't I wish I had 476 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 5: hit when I did the TNF freak up with with 477 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 5: JP Acostu did a great deal was just man, the 478 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 5: way this Lions team has looked and the way Branch 479 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 5: fro Laporta specifically, we're just fantastic have come out of 480 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 5: the gates, and I think it's okay to raise your expectations. 481 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: Are ready for Lions fans. Lions fans were there, but 482 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: we're now looking at them. It's like, it's okay to 483 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: see this team and say they're like a top seven 484 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: or eight team in the NFL etender. They can reasonably 485 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 5: expect that, Like, we have a great chance to not 486 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 5: just make the playoffs it's been a while, but to 487 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 5: win a playoff game and to compete in the NFC, 488 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 5: and man, even just winning a playoff game. I was 489 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: talking to Cynthia Freeland, our friend Lines fan, like she 490 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 5: was like, I think that would make me cry. I 491 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: don't even need to get to a super Bowl if 492 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 5: they win a playoff game. And I'm expecting them at 493 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 5: this point to be at home and have a playoff 494 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 5: game because I think they're gonna win their division and 495 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: and maybe we favored in that game and win that 496 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: game and who knows after that. 497 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: It's wild. 498 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: I would say, Dan, you get this as a Jets 499 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: fans when the Browns beat the Steelers, like, yeah, they 500 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: went on and was like just house money at that point, 501 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: like to see them win that playoff game you were waiting. 502 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: I understand where Cynthia is coming from. Brian Branch though 503 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: did not practice Wednesday. I just read that. I'm on 504 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: Rossain Brown did not practice today on Thursday. Josh Reynolds 505 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: is banged up, so it's not them at their full compliment. 506 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: Unsolicited advice. 507 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: You're a good enough team where if you're going to 508 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 3: rest some guys Branch limping all over the field last 509 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: Thursday night, take care of business against the Panthers and 510 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 3: and if you have to rest a couple guys, do that. 511 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: I feel that commident about Detroit right now because I 512 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 3: don't think this has been like out of nowhere, like 513 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: the defense. The thing I really love about what the 514 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: lines have done, and they've surprised me. And I think 515 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: you mentioned the Jets and you mentioned the Browns before 516 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: the season, I kind of was lumping the Lions and 517 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: as these sad sack franchises that get their fan bases 518 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: hopes up with a good close to a season and 519 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 3: then they fall in their face a little bit when 520 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: when the actual expectations go up. Instead, what Dan Campbell 521 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: and the rest of this team have done, They've leveled 522 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: up and they all the growth at the end of 523 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: last season has now gone to the next level in 524 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: this season. And that's the sign of a team that 525 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 3: is really becoming a potential. Yeah, as you said, real 526 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: deal can tender. 527 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: And Jamison Williams Beck We'll see what happens with him. 528 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounded like he might not even play him 529 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 5: because not much least injury. 530 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: We'll see. 531 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: I've it might be premature, but I've already reached a 532 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: stage where like, we'll see what he gives them. 533 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 5: It's been a weird career. Greg, You're up third pick, 534 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 5: all right, I am going to take a late game. 535 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: I'm going to take Eagles coming across the street to 536 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 5: the Rams. Eagles favored by four and a half. We 537 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 5: got the Fox A team, Kevin Burke, r Greg Olsen, 538 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 5: Rinaldi's in the house on a four oh five game. 539 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: He's that too often. 540 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: You check out that commercial he's playing against type that 541 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: show's rain. I know he's there. You talk about Thespians 542 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: that also just double his reporters. 543 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: That's him. 544 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: It's like he usually Aaron Andrews doesn't even know what 545 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 5: a four. She's never had a four h five game 546 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 5: before this. This is different. 547 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: But I feel like this was the either the first 548 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 3: or second pick, but not a reach mark. You do 549 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 3: what makes you happy? 550 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: I uh, I love this game? This Uh what. 551 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: Did you take? 552 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: I was gonna take this game if I didn't take mine. 553 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: I like I will I I liked your strategy. 554 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: I like to pick a couple of games that I'm 555 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: excited to see as the week goes forward, and this 556 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: this would fill Plus I can see it out the window. 557 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be a great, great shot of like Eagles fans. 558 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a Loing beer going Number one fans. 559 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: It'll be a lot of Eagles. Look, this is a 560 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 5: great test for both teams. I actually think it's a 561 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 5: great test for the Eagles defense, which has been a 562 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 5: little disappointment, little disappointed, But I think starting with the Rams, 563 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 5: it's just a great test of this offensive line, which 564 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 5: has been a pleasant surprise in what they did last week. 565 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 5: In the run game and the way that it's not 566 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: that wide zone team anymore. They're more of a power 567 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: running scheme now, and it's you're starting to see dividends 568 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 5: and then an even bigger test of this defensive line 569 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: than this defense, which is held up just well enough 570 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: to let the offense look great. Because this Eagles offensive line, 571 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 5: and really both their lines week after week seemed to 572 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,719 Speaker 5: be gaining momentum, and their offense played fantastic last week, 573 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: and you just I just have a hard time seeing 574 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 5: that this Rams defense can slow them down. And so 575 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: when Cooper Cup potentially returns for this game, we don't know, 576 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 5: but he did practice, according to McVeigh fully, even though 577 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 5: they listed him as limited, they said he was doing everything. 578 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 5: Is the Rams offense good enough? Because I really love 579 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: this Rams offense. Is it good enough with Cup to 580 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 5: keep up in a total shootout? And I think they 581 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 5: could as long as that hip isn't a problem with Stafford. 582 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 5: I think this game could be in the thirties And 583 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: then I'm loving life at four. 584 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: This is why like like so Jordan Rodrigue wrote like 585 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: this awesome article about the fact that Sean McVay, who 586 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: was you know, married to wide Zone forever like has 587 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: changed the round game entirely to this gap scheme, and 588 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: they lead the league and gaps scheme run usage and 589 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: It's like that is just another like bullet point of 590 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: like why this RAMS team, which I had some Rams exhaustion. 591 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: We live in LA. It's in your face all the 592 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: time for a long period of time. It's like the 593 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: status is. 594 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 5: I mean you were exhausted before, not really very much, 595 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 5: not in our actually hasn't been post super Bowl. 596 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: But when they arrived, like and we were in Culver City, 597 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: yes it was. I think some of us were well 598 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: more we wanted to welcome it more than others. I 599 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: was a little resistant this. Sean McVay though, like is 600 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: doing the coaching job of the year right now. It's 601 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: like I kind of think the team is like they're 602 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: not they're rebuilding, but like they're here today and and 603 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I think this is like an incredible test because if 604 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: you Cooper cup back and I think the stafford hip thing, 605 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're worried about a calf injury, like 606 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: a hip injury could heat up at some point, and 607 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: like he couldn't walk after that thing, really after last 608 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: week's sea. 609 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 5: He says he'll be fine, but he's talking about like 610 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: adrenaline will get me through. 611 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: No. 612 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: I don't like hearing that. 613 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: That's I don't like that. 614 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: I have major concerns about any professional athlete dealing with 615 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: the hip injury, and older quarterback dealing with the hip injury. 616 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: Guy's not mobile as it is, so you're gonna potentially 617 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 3: have a situation where that could be aggravated easily. So 618 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 3: I have concerns about that. I love everything else about 619 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: the Rams, I agree. I think Sean McVay right now 620 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 3: is the Coach of the Year front runner. It's very early. 621 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: Greg doesn't like talking about awards this early, but I do. 622 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 4: Because of what he's been able to do here building 623 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 4: this team on the fly. And that's from DFF DAN 624 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 4: Football Focus. 625 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Sure, I like, do you check that you pay a 626 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: premium for that? 627 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: I think we get a free account as thirty nine 628 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: ninety nine a week. I charge It's I do terrible business. 629 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't do anything. But yeah, like and all this talk, 630 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: remember all the talk. 631 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: I know that they're not gangbusters, but remember all the 632 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 4: talk about like, oh my god. 633 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: This Los Angeles defense, right, they don't have anybody. They 634 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: got Aaron Donald a bunch of guys. So the fact 635 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: that they've been able to be competitive week in and 636 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 3: week out, and the offense has been very good, and 637 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: now you have one of the top five receivers in 638 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 3: the league. Hopefully that hamstring is right and they're playing 639 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: this the right way. Love the game, hate the hip injury, 640 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: and I just hope it's not something that's going to 641 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: ruin their season. 642 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, they came into this year. We talked about the 643 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 5: thirty draft picks that they had or whatever. They have 644 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 5: the thirty rookies because they have twenty undrafted guys and 645 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 5: you think of who they're getting out of this class 646 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: right now. Everyone knows Pukinakua, you know, one of the 647 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year candidates. But they've got a guy 648 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 5: in Steve Avila at guard that I think they believe 649 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: is a future pro bowler who's already a plus starter. 650 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: And then they have two starters on defense. 651 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 5: In Kobe what is his name, Kobe Turner who's playing solid, 652 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 5: and then our Dresser and Byron Young. That's four starters. 653 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 5: That's a big time rookie class. And they're going against 654 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 5: the Eagles, who got a lot of attention for their 655 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 5: rookies and the way Jalen Carter's playing like these are 656 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 5: rookies that have stepped in and kind of looked like 657 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 5: Pro bowlers right off the bat, which which is just wild. 658 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: The Eagles got to clean up their red zone though 659 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 5: they're one of the worst teams in the league surprisingly 660 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 5: in the red zone on both sides of the ball. 661 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: I think that will clean. That's the kind of thing 662 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: that I just think. 663 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: I do think the new coordinator thing has helped, like 664 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: or has had an impact. I mean they think they don't, 665 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: ye right. I think we're finding out like how special 666 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: stiking was. And it's kind of like when Frank Reich 667 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: left the Eagles, and it's like, is it was Frank 668 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: Reich kind of the the BRAINI act behind all this. 669 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: It's like I think it's a group thing, but like 670 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: Stikeen's loss affects them a lot. The one thing though, 671 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: like when they've had these issues through their air and 672 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: aj Brown blew up last week, but the ground game 673 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: has been insane, and like I think that's the thing 674 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: for the Rams. Like I look back at that Eagles 675 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: drive after the Commanders went down the field of at 676 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: fourteen play March last week and the Eagles come back 677 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: tied up at seven seven, But that DeAndre Swift touchdown, 678 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: there is not there's no one near him. He blasted 679 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: at the end zone and there's like eight there's eight 680 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: yards between him and anyone else. It's like they're better 681 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: at that than anyone in the league. They have more 682 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: yards to rush before contact than anyone else, And it's 683 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: like where does that stat come from? Like wide open 684 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: gaps before someone in a second layer is finally touching you. 685 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: Last week, the storyline that people were trying to push 686 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: is what's wrong with the Eagles passing game? 687 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: Then they threw the ball over the yard and now 688 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: it's like the Eagles four and oh but okay, I'm 689 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: just not interested and we've been doing it. 690 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: Like that's okay to multiple things can be true. They 691 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: were a mediocre path, but like. 692 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: What, why are we nitpicking with this team? They're a 693 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: juggernaut there. Maybe they're figuring some things out early, but 694 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: there are so many other teams with much larger pressing issues. 695 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: The Eagles are just taking care of their business. 696 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: They were just so perfect during the regular season last 697 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: year that it's like. 698 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is, right, but I just can't 699 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: be convinced to get worried. 700 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: They're just too talented. 701 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: Don't spend your time DFF doesn't on that road, would 702 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: I would? 703 00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: We don't? 704 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: All right, Greg, all right, I'm going to take the 705 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: Houston Texans at the Atlanta Falcons. Falcons favored by two 706 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: at home. 707 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: Wow. I mean that's a lot of respect. 708 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: These teams aren't that close to. 709 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: Me, A lot of respect for a team that maybe 710 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: hasn't earned such things. 711 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: I mean two points at home, though, is telling you, 712 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 4: we're saying we don't get you. 713 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 5: Okay, And I teased this on Monday, meant to bring 714 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: it up yesterday, But I mean, this Texans team, at 715 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: what point do we gotta talk about them as like 716 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 5: a real team now? Maybe even a team of atl 717 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: because whoa Hey, when I got home last Sunday night, 718 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 5: and I was thinking, if I feel like it, I'll 719 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 5: watch the games when I get home. Sometimes they don't. 720 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 5: Whatever felt like it? Which team did I want to 721 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 5: go watch? 722 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: Wait, let me just picture. Greg draws a bubble bath, 723 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: lights some candles. 724 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 5: Well this, actually, I'm glad you mentioned that guy. That 725 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: all reminds me of our friend Chris Westling, who's a 726 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 5: big chick parm hero. He he loved to watch in 727 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 5: a bath. He would talk about it quite a bit 728 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 5: that was buried in my yeah. And he was the 729 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 5: one that this was his big test of like what 730 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: team is exciting him the most? Which team does he 731 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 5: want to watch? Sunday night and Nick Westling and it 732 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: just says that I had had these thoughts of like, 733 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 5: which team do I want to watch? 734 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: I want to watch c J. 735 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: Stroud and Nico Collins. I want to see what's going 736 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: on with them. I want to see them. I want 737 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: to see them destroy a Steelers team. 738 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: Your family's like, haven't seen you in fourteen hours? Have 739 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: a nice bath. 740 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: They're asleep. They're asleep. I mean, well, I'mica's not but 741 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: she she's not interested. 742 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: Happens one of the bathroomstairs. 743 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 744 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 5: Nick that night or maybe it was the next night, 745 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 5: texted me the first the first team I want to 746 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 5: watch right now is c J. Stroud And I was like, oh, 747 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: is this a sign signed from I don't know where 748 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 5: that like, that's the first team he wants to watch. 749 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: And it's not just c J. 750 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: Stroud. 751 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 5: First of all, sixty nine to twenty three over the 752 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 5: last two weeks against two good enough teams. Those are 753 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 5: two more blowouts. I looked it up at two seventeen 754 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 5: plus point blowouts you row for, that's not easy to do. 755 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 5: For instance, the Minnesota Vikings have not won a single game. 756 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 5: Pretty good team, they're big dumb dame in four years though, 757 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 5: four years? Like, how many games have the Jets won 758 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 5: by twenty points in the last handful of years? 759 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 4: There aren't that many French weird example, Yeah, but my 760 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: point is it's a different example once, just one. 761 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 5: Well, the Vikings I think are a good one because 762 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: they've been there. 763 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: They've been winning a lot of games. 764 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 5: It's not easy to blow teams out, like this team 765 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 5: might just be good. And when I look at Nico 766 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 5: Collins especially, I want to highlight him, like I was 767 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: not familiar with your work, young man. I mean, I 768 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 5: did not know that he was a true one. He 769 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 5: is a six foot four giant that makes people miss 770 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 5: in open space. You don't those guys who are like 771 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: kind of the tall, thin profile, like an AJ Green type, 772 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 5: they usually don't move that well in the open field. 773 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: He is a true one, and you've got a true 774 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 5: great quarterback. I'm into this team. They're gonna win this game, 775 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 5: by the way. 776 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 777 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: And it's funny because you're like, when is it time 778 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 3: to take them for real or whatever. And it's like 779 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: I was looking for, you know, at home against the Niners, 780 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: like some type of like real fun game. 781 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: The Bills. 782 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: On the schedule, they have at Atlanta home, Saints at 783 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: Carolina home, Bucks at Cincinnati. 784 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe maybe, but we don't even know anymore. Home 785 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: Arizona home, Jaguars home Broncos, got Jets, the schedule at 786 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 4: Tennessee home the South team Cleveland. 787 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 5: They all play each other in both conferences. The schedules 788 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 5: are preposterously. 789 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: This is setting up. 790 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: It's like a nine game carpet. 791 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is setting up if if Stroud 792 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: continues to build on this as yeah, one of the 793 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: biggest surprise in the league and a double digit win team, 794 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: they're getting way ahead of ourselves. 795 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: But it's look at the schedule and look at the. 796 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: Progress that we've seen in the first four weeks. 797 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: I don't think it's flukey. I think there's some things 798 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: happening here. 799 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: And it starts with the coaching staff that's like really 800 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 1: well picked and works well with the players here. Denico 801 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: Ryan's like, I mean, I always kind of felt from 802 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: the beginning like they finally found their guy after like 803 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: two years of one and done chaos. They put it 804 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars three hundred and sixty six yards the 805 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: week before three hundred and eighty nine on a pretty 806 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: good Colts defense that I like parts of four hundred 807 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: and fifty one yards against the Steelers. And they haven't 808 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: been running the ball that well, and they've had a 809 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: ton of offensive line injuries and I think part of 810 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: the Bobby Slowick situation is that. And you see this 811 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: in the it's a Shanahan guy. I know that gets tiresome, 812 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: but it's like, you work with offensive line deficiencies and 813 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: they have used those pass protection issues and turned around 814 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: and add absolutely like a flood of screens and quick 815 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: release passes that like mitigate that and put their rookie 816 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: quarterback unlike the one we just talked about in a 817 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: good situation. 818 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: They got that run game going last week. Finally they do. 819 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: Here's the one thing in this game, though I think 820 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: they're not perfect. They are thirtieth in the league in 821 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: run defense. By some Mesags are the worst run defense 822 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: in the league. So if you're the Falcons, and the 823 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: Falcons to me are backed up against a wall, they 824 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: can only do one thing well. But if they're gonna 825 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: do it well, you do it well this week. Otherwise, 826 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I know where I was a month ago 827 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: with the Falcons. Like this to me, is Arthur Smith's 828 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: kind of like, are you going to acknowledge what we 829 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: all see? 830 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 4: We talked about this on Sunday Night? 831 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: Is this like another situation where Arthur Smith is kind 832 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: of like George Bush saying like mission accomplished, Like well 833 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: to go, way to go, Brownie, Or it's like, can we. 834 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 4: Acknowledge that there's more work to do here? 835 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: And if you want this team that has a good 836 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: roster of a chance, if Ritter is, you know, absolutely 837 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: melting again, You've got Taylor heineke. 838 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: Kis and he goes way to go, Brownie. It's just 839 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: like a great great riff. 840 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 3: It's funny that you brought up GW because I actually 841 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: think about not GW on the aircraft carrier. 842 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 843 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: When I think of Arthur Smith and where he's at 844 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: right now, I think of GW in the elementary school 845 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 3: classroom and somebody that's dark and getting his ear and 846 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: telling him something that he needs to react to, and 847 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: instead of acting, he's sitting. 848 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: Reading a children's people. 849 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: He's ruminating and he's wondering what he should do when 850 00:35:54,080 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: it's very apparent he needs to do something. But he's 851 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 3: deciding to stick with his quarterback for now, and we'll 852 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 3: see if that pays off and it makes him look 853 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: smart and. 854 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 5: Or again against you know a very famous famous Texans 855 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 5: you know fan, George HW. 856 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 4: Bush and you so right now you have Arthur Smith. 857 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: You have Arthur Smith reading the pet goat to his 858 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: team here on Thursdays to prepare for the. 859 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 5: Lot of George Bush content fun two and two game. 860 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 5: But yes, I was feeling the Falcons coming into the year. 861 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: You never know what's going to happen, and I guess, 862 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 5: I guess stick a pin in it. But I'm I'm 863 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: thinking about the Texans here movie. 864 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: Just I think I have a nominee as well that 865 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 3: I feel very good about and that could be something 866 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: that we tee up for down the road. Let's take 867 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 3: a break and then we will continue with the draft. 868 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 3: All right, back to the draft, and we have, yes, 869 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: a trade. You may recall barely from last week. 870 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: We struggled to call the terms, but we. 871 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: Can't cof It took about ten minutes to work out 872 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: the logistics of it before we started, but we did. 873 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: And yes I have Mark's second pick as a result 874 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 3: of the trade from last week. And with that pick 875 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: sliding into mark spot, we essentially flip Mark. So I 876 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,760 Speaker 3: jump ahead of you one spot, and with that jump, 877 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: I will take the Baltimore Ravens at Pittsburgh Steelers A 878 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: you know, listen, I mean, come on now, Steelers, what 879 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 3: are we doing? 880 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: Where are we at? 881 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: We're not playing football? 882 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: Well, we are not protecting the quarterback. We are not 883 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 3: calling a particularly aggressive scheme of offense. Our young quarterback 884 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 3: is not playing with any sense of confidence and belief 885 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 3: in self. They have playmakers, but I'm not seeing plays 886 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 3: being made. The defense has showed up some weeks and 887 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 3: then other weeks like last week against the off war 888 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 3: mentioned Houston Texans, really show it much at all. And 889 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 3: the Texans did what they wanted with CJ. Stroud using 890 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 3: his precision passing and Nico Collins jumping off the screen. 891 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 4: And it was just you know, bad, bad, bad bad. 892 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: And yet with the Ravens come to town, I feel 893 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: like if there is a kind of circle the wagon 894 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 3: situation with the Pittsburgh Steelers, a proud organization, a well coach, 895 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: team over overall, you can get on Matt Canada and 896 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 3: I wonder how patient if if Mike Tomlin truly believes 897 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: in the Steelers team as a team he thinks should 898 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 3: be taking the next step this year, which I imagine 899 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 3: he does, does Canada get a free pass it this 900 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: year or could a change come if this continues. 901 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 4: Here's their scoring by week. 902 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 3: By the way, they had seven points Week one, the 903 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: Browns twenty six, but there was some defensive scoring in 904 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 3: that game, as I recall against Cleveland. 905 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I'd have to go that up and yeah, they 906 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: were not great on offense in that game. 907 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: I believe TJ had a return in that game the Raiders, 908 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 3: they scored twenty three in a win. They score six 909 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 3: and a loss to the Texans, and now they need 910 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 3: to do something on offense. This is such an important 911 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: week for the two and two Steelers against the Ravens, 912 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 3: who looks very good with Lamar Jackson doing his thing 913 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: against Cleveland last week. 914 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those matchups. 915 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 5: I'm not saying throw out the records, but to your point, 916 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 5: it's a division matchup where Mike Tomlins actually had a 917 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 5: better beat on stopping Lamar than just about any defensive 918 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 5: coach in the league. They've generally done well, they've generally won, 919 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 5: and they've generally limited Lamar Jackson compared to other opponents. Now, 920 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 5: the Baltimore running game now isn't just Lamar. It's really 921 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 5: good with Lamar in the red zone, especially like they're 922 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 5: getting him holes to run in for touchdowns. But they're 923 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 5: picking and choosing. It's the rest of the running game 924 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 5: that's really been in impressive to me. They're throwing a 925 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 5: lot of different things out there, considering that they've had 926 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 5: so many injuries, and it sounds like they could get 927 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 5: Ronnie Stanley back this week, but now they're right tackle 928 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 5: of Morgan Moses might be out. Gus Edwards was back 929 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 5: last week. I think he looks good like it doesn't 930 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 5: matter who's been back there. Their running game can throw 931 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 5: a lot at you, and when Lamar is the quarterback, 932 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 5: it just gives you so many things to prepare for. 933 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 5: And I loved what I saw to Mark Andrews too, 934 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 5: so I think they're coming together. Mark Andrews didn't seem 935 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 5: one hundred percent at the beginning season. You're seeing a 936 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 5: more complete Ravens offense and that's gonna be a lot 937 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 5: for Tomlin in this defense to deal with. 938 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, the Ravens largely were helped and coasted 939 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: because Dorian Thompson Robinson was not ready to play professional 940 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: football a week ago. But what impressed me about them 941 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: was how they started to heat up against a Cleveland 942 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: defense we were, you know, correctly calling like a top 943 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: five defense. It's not top three. In the days prior, 944 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: I saw, like Melvin Gordon a big run, Like. 945 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 5: That's what I mean, right when when Melvin Gordon's popped 946 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 5: off twenty, that's good, that's a good A. 947 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: Play got called back. 948 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: But Justice Hill was shifty as hell yep on like 949 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 3: a fifty yard screenplay. 950 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing some things in that game. 951 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 4: They are. 952 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: And it's like, so, you know, here's the one thing 953 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: I look at the AFC North and I kind of 954 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: think like we're getting from the AFC South in terms 955 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: of like results and thriving and surprise teams and interesting 956 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: teams what we thought would get from the North. And 957 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: right now the Ravens are set up really well, like 958 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: this is a pivotal game. You've beaten both Ohio teams 959 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 1: in your division. The Steelers have a quarterback that's banged 960 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: up and by the way, just not playing well. We 961 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: all get that. Joe Burrow's CAF tod go in a moment, 962 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: and I think Lamar Jackson in this offense are starting 963 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: to find themselves. It's like I had a lot of 964 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: questions about Todd Monkin in general, Like it's like, I'm 965 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: not sure that's a wizard. We have a lot of 966 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: like evidence he's going to come in and change everything. 967 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: But they right now lead the league in like red 968 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: zone touchdown rate, which is a problem for them at 969 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: other times in the previous offense. Jackson is completing eighty 970 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: percent of his red zone passes. So they're getting down 971 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: there and they're scoring, and like I like that about him. 972 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: They're running the ball better. Odell Beckham return to practice Wednesday. 973 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman returned to practice Wednesday. Marlon Humphrey returned to 974 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: practice Wednesday. So I also look at a team that, 975 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: like for three years in a row. I know Lamar 976 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: Jackson's injury killed them two seasons running, but outside of that, 977 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: like they deal with injuries as well as any team 978 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: in the AFC, they find a way around it. 979 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 5: And the Steelers are quite banged up for this game. 980 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 5: They're going into the bye. We should mention, you know, 981 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 5: we last talked about the Steelers Monday night. We thought 982 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 5: Picket was gonna be out at least this week. And 983 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 5: he's practicing and he's saying he's playing, So that's I 984 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 5: don't think that's good. I think I think Mitch Trubisky 985 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: would be an upgrade Piket. 986 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 4: That's why I have the question mark, right, yeah, I. 987 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: Mean I have to answer your question. And they're gonna 988 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 2: be short. 989 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 5: Pat Fryarmouth is not expected to play, who's been consistent 990 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 5: for them, and a few of their offensive linemen A 991 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 5: Corps four Uh and James Daniels are out of practice 992 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 5: and it looks like they'll make that switch. At left tackle, 993 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 5: Dan Moore is hurt, although they have their first round 994 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: pick to insert there, which a lot of fans have 995 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 5: been wanting. He's just he does not look comfortable and 996 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 5: the Ravens defense throws a lot at you. Rokwan Smith 997 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 5: to me is an all pro right now. He would 998 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 5: be my my all Pro linebacker. He to me, has been, 999 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,720 Speaker 5: you know, beyond behind Lamar the MVP of that team. 1000 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 5: Every week he is really making great. 1001 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: And I don't. 1002 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 4: I've seen it before. 1003 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: I don't enjoy watching it, but I understand how it happens, 1004 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 3: but it doesn't make it any fun to watch when 1005 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 3: you could tell when the struggling young quarterback does not 1006 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: have the trust of his offensive coordinator, and the offensive 1007 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 3: coordinator then changes the game plan and everything is underneath, 1008 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 3: everything is short. They're not they're not pushing the ball 1009 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 3: downfield because they're trying not to make mistakes. And that's 1010 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 3: that's what I felt like I was watching yesterday last 1011 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 3: week against Houston with Pittsburgh and Canada is in a 1012 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 3: tough spot because I think he's he's he believes it. 1013 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 3: Pikett might not be seeing the field wall or he 1014 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: doesn't because of the pass rush. It's causing them to 1015 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: have to work in a way. Maybe that's not conductive 1016 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: to the way the roster is built. But none of 1017 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 3: it is fun to watch. That's the other thing of it. 1018 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: They've been a slog on offense. 1019 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: You know what throws me a little bit because it's 1020 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: like I wonder sometimes with these quarterbacks when you come 1021 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: in as a rookie, because I can think of like 1022 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in twenty eighteen with what he did that 1023 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: lone isolated group of games, Like, I thought we had 1024 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: the next Russell Wilson. I thought he was gonna be 1025 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: a star. He looked fantastic, but then like they change 1026 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: offenses and he fell off a cliff in the whole offense. Actly, yeah, 1027 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: but Mack, but mac Jones walked into chaos in year two. 1028 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: But that's you're right, like you changed things, but this 1029 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: is the same coordinator. And I thought Pickett, like, you know, 1030 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: he's not a physical like dominating specimen, but he did 1031 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: things well and he Kate had a kN act to 1032 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: come back in games, and this year, like it's completely opposite. 1033 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's I think Canada, like it's 1034 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: easy just to pick on him week after week. But 1035 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: he actually like got very angry at the CBS broadcast 1036 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: Spirit right, because they took a quote from him in 1037 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: a conversation that basically sort of suggested that Canada said, 1038 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: we are not an offense that's built to come back, 1039 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: and what he was actually talking about, and by the way, 1040 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: that seems true. 1041 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: So that's the problem. It's like there's evidence there. 1042 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: But he was talking about the late in the Niners 1043 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: game that they weren't built to come back in that 1044 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 1: game the way that that was. But that said, like 1045 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: Canada is under so much fire, and I think like, 1046 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: like this is the I've always feel like, no matter 1047 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: what happens in Pittsburgh, Tomlin's gonna get them out of there. 1048 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna win nine games and there's gonna be hope 1049 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: for next season. It's like, this is your argument to 1050 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: just ignore the preseason because I got sold down a 1051 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: river on this and it looked I look like a rude. 1052 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 4: But there's a bunch of people on the same raft 1053 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 4: with me. 1054 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: You guys want to hear my Spiroudidas impression I've never tried. 1055 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm just yes, sure, Clowney in the backfield and 1056 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 5: he's buried. 1057 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. That's pretty good. I liked it. Yeah. 1058 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: I think all play by play people came from like 1059 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: a certain planet somewhere, Like don't they all sort of 1060 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 1: like you know. 1061 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 4: What a name on that didas huh cloudy way. 1062 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 5: I just checked the PFF ranks. You don't want to 1063 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 5: hear this. Who's top ten impressors this year? It's Jadebian Clowny, 1064 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 5: nice little pick up by the Ravens. 1065 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,720 Speaker 1: Nice little. 1066 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 3: I predicted that having a nice set off, get off 1067 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 3: my steps. I said he would go there and they 1068 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 3: would find a way to finally unlock him after years 1069 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 3: of disappointment. 1070 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: He's also a bad teammate. Oh stop, I have have 1071 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: your fun. What he is? He quit on his list? 1072 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 5: Well last team they weren't happy with him, but he 1073 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 5: had a nice game against him last week, just saying. 1074 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 3: Wow, are you saying that he's had a pro career 1075 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 3: that's lived up to expectations? 1076 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: No, he's touted as like Lawrence Taylor. 1077 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 5: No, I always he's always been a good starter, Like 1078 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 5: he's he's actually better than the average number one overall pick. 1079 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 5: That would be my take, fairly but better. 1080 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: And ten years have one season where you have ten 1081 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 3: sacks to be hyped up as. 1082 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: A hall and also you walked out on I know, 1083 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: I know, and it's like, oh, it's like now you're 1084 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 1: with walked out on your came from my Wait til buried, 1085 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: wait till things start to go wrong, then we'll see 1086 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: what happens with. 1087 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: See the I kind of got sucked in there because 1088 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 3: oh Greg's going a little off playbook with an impression. Yeah, 1089 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 3: but then it dovetailed into like Greg dragging us into 1090 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 3: this Vartex, this clowny wartex. 1091 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 4: He's smart that way. 1092 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 3: So now I feel like I wish I didn't hear 1093 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 3: the impression. And it was the thing I was so 1094 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 3: excited about. Let's try to get the show back because 1095 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 3: now it's gone, but it's not over. Mark, You're up. 1096 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 3: This was we flipped picks based on last week's blockbuster 1097 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 3: trade and so it's your pick. 1098 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1099 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: Oh, can I just one real quick thing. I think 1100 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh wins. How about that. 1101 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: I've been I've been watching these Tumbelin teams forever, and 1102 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 3: I predict a monster defensive effort. I don't know about 1103 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 3: this offense, but TJ Watt getting after it, having a 1104 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 3: huge game and making a play that changes. 1105 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 5: And if they did, they'd be tied for the division lead. 1106 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 5: If they don't weird this way behind and that Steelers 1107 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 5: or the Ravens would have a three in a record. 1108 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 5: They are four and a half point underdogs the Steelers 1109 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 5: at home. So if if Dan, if Dan was right, 1110 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 5: could really could really make some rain. 1111 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 4: Well that's not my territory, and based on last. 1112 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm taking the Ravens. 1113 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 3: I'm taking the Rave Clear Sky all right, wait wait, wait, Mark, Wait, nope, 1114 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 3: I had nothing else to add. 1115 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 4: Go ahead, but. 1116 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: Look on your face. I thought I had something. I 1117 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: don't know what I did have something? What you think? 1118 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm glad you didn't do it. I'm 1119 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 4: gonna go. 1120 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: I want to see, uh the team that last week 1121 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: everyone is down on and like they didn't live up 1122 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,439 Speaker 1: to the test. Can they come back? Can they show 1123 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: us who they really are after a beating in their 1124 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: own division? The Miami Dolphins. 1125 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 4: Oh it's another Mark cessil. Let me pick the blowouts week. 1126 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: Giving up eleven to the Giants. Well, that's what you 1127 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: know what, that's what I love about it. 1128 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: I got a bird catch to London. I want only blowouts. 1129 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 4: Everyone assumes it's gonna be. 1130 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I think I'm gonna do. 1131 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: I did four games last week. I I you know, 1132 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: I did everything you said I couldn't do. 1133 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 4: Here's your purple heart. 1134 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I do. 1135 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: I honestly want to see how they bounce back. 1136 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: I think this obviously is what to tell you much 1137 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: because the Giants have been maybe the worst. I guess 1138 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm more thinking that, like to your Steelers Ravens thing 1139 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: Steelers have looked like a massive disaster. 1140 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 4: Doesn't see a lot of hope. 1141 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: The Giants have been a mega disaster and embarrassment, like 1142 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: a team that went to the playoffs, and it's like, 1143 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: was that actually just the biggest mirage we've ever been 1144 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: witnessed to in the last five years of the NFL seasons? 1145 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: And uh I think it might be based on how 1146 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: they're bill right now. Their offensive line is an absolute mess. 1147 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: But there's a little bit of controversy in Miami that 1148 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: I kind of like because like they got fried by 1149 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: the Bills last week and then this week Dolphins players 1150 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: were saying, you know, there's still whenever this happens, I 1151 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: always see little chinks in the armor and wonder where 1152 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 1: we'll be. Like eight weeks now, Dolphins players sort of 1153 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: saying that, look with this Vic Fangio uh oh defense, 1154 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: that there's still a learning curve in Fangio. I mean, 1155 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: we've met Fangio at like the Ravens Niners Super Bowl 1156 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: week and I tried to interview him and he was 1157 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: alone at one of those little regular tables, so that's 1158 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: a good chance to talk. 1159 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 4: Very did not want me there with him. Very it's 1160 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 4: just sort of. 1161 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: Like a straight to the irascible and I think we 1162 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: felt that with his head coach Rain. 1163 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 3: But he basically saw like the grandfather like lost grandfathers 1164 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 3: are kind of in this mode or they're just like 1165 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 3: just leave me alone. Like I've been in this I've 1166 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 3: been in this game called life. Yeah for too long 1167 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 3: to be dealing with you. Let me see my rocking still, 1168 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: Just get off, get off my porch, right, I didn't. 1169 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys had like the nice grandfather. 1170 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 4: Mine were very nice. 1171 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 3: That was like loving is like hey, let's go fishing 1172 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 3: or whatever. It's like, no, my grandfather's like no, I 1173 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 3: already had children and we are moving forward. There are 1174 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 3: no reverse gears in this tank. And that's who I am. Well, 1175 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 3: Vick might be that. 1176 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 4: He grew up in a coal mine too or coalman city. 1177 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: Too deep deep within mine. Sure, well that that would 1178 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, But Vic Fonju basically when they were 1179 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: pinging him about that, like all these little reporters, he 1180 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: was like, well, it should be there already. These guys 1181 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: should know it. So it's already like coordinator. Whenever this 1182 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: starts happened, I wonder just like at their grandfather. I 1183 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: know this sounds like I'm taking a wipeout. I kind 1184 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 1: of don't think it's gonna be I had this like 1185 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: spidy sense about it, and I just want to see 1186 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: how Miami responds. There's no reason they shouldn't take care 1187 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: of business. 1188 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 4: It's down in like. 1189 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: Super hot miam South Beach, probably like one hundred and 1190 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: forty two degrees. Not good for the Giants and their 1191 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 1: terrible offensive line that can barely move in temperate weather. 1192 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe the Dolphins get back Jalen Phillips in this game. 1193 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 5: I mean, the lines makers are expecting Dolphins favored by eleven. 1194 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's enough for me. I think 1195 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 5: i'd go go more than that. Maybe they get back 1196 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 5: Jalen Phillips, who's by far their best pass rusher and 1197 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 5: has been out a few weeks, and that's a factor. 1198 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 5: But I don't see a very well coordinated defense. I 1199 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 5: mean I see a lot of guys Dolphins. Yeah, Emanuel Agba, 1200 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 5: who was a great player for a few years and 1201 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,720 Speaker 5: in the old scheme that's barely playing. And some guys 1202 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 5: like Bradley Chubb who make a lot of money and 1203 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 5: he's been okay, but not you know, Xavi and Howard, 1204 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 5: one of the high paid cornerbacks in the league certainly 1205 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 5: not playing well. 1206 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 2: The secondary is attackable. 1207 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,959 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's gonna show up this week, 1208 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 5: especially because the Giants have a still have a you know, 1209 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 5: they have a new injuries on the offensive line. As 1210 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 5: bad as it was against Seattle, it's like you lost 1211 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 5: your center, like right off the bat. 1212 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: That's a hard thing killed. 1213 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 5: To deal with. And maybe you get back Andrew Thomas. 1214 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 5: Sounds like you get back Saquon Barkley this week. And 1215 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 5: the Dolphins won't get back to Ron Armstead. So there's 1216 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 5: a lot of injuries here. But then it's like all 1217 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 5: this mess we're talking about, and then you have two 1218 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 5: a tongue of I loo against this Giants defense and 1219 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 5: these rookie cornerbacks, and you put the over under eight 1220 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 5: about what thirty six on Dolphins points. 1221 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 2: I would say. 1222 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 3: This, this smells like another fifty burger. 1223 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,919 Speaker 1: Yah. I think this is gonna happen. But I'm getting 1224 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 1: what dumb Woltz said. 1225 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,280 Speaker 5: We wanted it could be like fifty to thirty though. 1226 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Yeah, it's it's possible that that Jones gets 1227 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 3: unlocked a little bit if he gets a little bit 1228 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 3: of help. But yeah, I think they're gonna go up 1229 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: and down the field. This this feels like end of 1230 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 3: first quarter and the Giants are down seventeen to nothing 1231 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 3: or something. 1232 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: So but that can't get into it, I hear you. 1233 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: But every time we think that. Not every time. But 1234 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 1: this is like how I felt about the Cardinals coming 1235 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: in the season, and the Giants have already showed us 1236 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: they're argely inept. But it's like, I don't know, weird 1237 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 1: things can happen. That said, like your whole defense is 1238 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: based around high pressure rate and blitzing the quarterback, and 1239 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: they're just not very good at that. 1240 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 5: Mean, the Giants have played four games, right, and in 1241 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 5: seven of those eight halves they've they haven't even played 1242 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 5: like they've been absolutely that's. 1243 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 3: The issue that's tough, and it's why it makes your 1244 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 3: brain hurt, because you know, again, they their whole thing 1245 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: last year is that they were maximizing their talent and 1246 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 3: well coached, and this year it seems like the the 1247 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 3: exact opposite. 1248 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 4: Football is weird. 1249 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: We should be able to change their monikers, their nicknames 1250 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 1: when they don't play up like Giants should be switched 1251 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: to something else until they get back to what we 1252 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: what they were named as back in the old days 1253 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: when they. 1254 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 2: Were little little how about little giants? 1255 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: That was a little Rick Moranis vehicle. 1256 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 3: Okay, let's move on. I am on the clock once more. 1257 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 3: Let's hit up the other New York team, Jets at Broncos. 1258 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 3: I want to start with. 1259 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 4: A public apology. And I'm not alone. 1260 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,760 Speaker 3: Even the great Joe Namath owes an apology to Zach Wilson. 1261 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 4: You know who else owes Zack Wilson apology? Rodney Harrison. 1262 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: That guy's you don't know what is up with that guy? 1263 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,840 Speaker 4: There's one day to not do it. 1264 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: It's that day. 1265 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 3: He assaults Chris Jones in a postgame interview, trying because 1266 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 3: Jones was paying Wilson a complimentary he played against the 1267 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 3: Chiefs and Harrison. I think he's a patriot and all that, 1268 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 3: but like, come on, dude, let it go. Like he 1269 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 3: kept on coming back. He's calling Zack Wilson garbage on 1270 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 3: the air, and sometimes I feel like and I think 1271 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 3: it's a part of. 1272 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 4: The I get it. 1273 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 1: Listen. 1274 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 3: I understand the Jets have gotten a lot of coverage 1275 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 3: this year, and Zach Wilson is annoying to some people. 1276 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 3: And you don't want to hear Zach Wilson getting praised 1277 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 3: because you've seen so much bad tape and you're like, no, 1278 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna let you say he played well today 1279 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 3: because he stinks, like trust me, Jets fans get the 1280 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 3: frustration with Zach Wilson, but he's owed an apology because 1281 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 3: he really did under immense, immense criticism and just the 1282 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 3: idea that that was going to be and I was 1283 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 3: wrong about it. I thought that was going to be 1284 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 3: the floor hitting the floor, going through the floor into 1285 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 3: the middle core of Earth moment for the Jets franchise 1286 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 3: against Kansas City with freaking Taylor Swift there and everything. 1287 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 3: And yet they once again showed that there is a 1288 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 3: heart on this team and they do fight, and they 1289 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 3: didn't win, So we're not handing out lollipops. And Zack 1290 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 3: Wilson did fumble that snap at midfield in a tie 1291 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 3: game late, so I can't say that all of a sudden. 1292 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 3: I'm on board with Zach Wilson in the experience, but 1293 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 3: he deserves credit for bouncing back playing at a high 1294 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 3: level for him in that game. And now we see 1295 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 3: what happens in Denver against the Broncos team. We say, 1296 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: we don't need anything. They just cut Randy Gregory. We'll 1297 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 3: get to that in a second. Their defense is brutal 1298 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 3: and the Jets are not gonna put up seventy. But 1299 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 3: how about Jets And I know this is gonna sound insane, 1300 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 3: but how about the Jets offense scores three touchdowns in 1301 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 3: Denver this week? And how about this season's over? This 1302 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 3: season is over. Let's not got crazier. This season is 1303 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 3: ova for the Jets. If they don't win in Denver, 1304 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 3: they've lost three straight. They're one and three. They got 1305 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 3: the Eagles next week. So if you don't win this game, 1306 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 3: you're staring at one and five. Aaron Rodgers, see you 1307 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 3: next year, Okay, So find a way with this team. 1308 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 3: Breese Hall, the big report about him this week is 1309 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 3: they took off the training wheels. There's no more pitch. 1310 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: Count on him. 1311 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 3: Give Breese Hall the rock twenty times. Zach Wilson try 1312 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 3: to build off that performance. And Nate Hackett, who has 1313 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 3: escaped criticism for the most part, well, it piled up 1314 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 3: on Wilson. 1315 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: See what happens there, Nate. 1316 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,959 Speaker 3: When you let him throw the ball and you don't 1317 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 3: let the defense just sit at the line of scrimmage, 1318 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 3: keep challenging the defense with downfield shots. 1319 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 4: What else do you have to loose? 1320 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: No, I like, I kind of love this for part 1321 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: two of what we saw from Zach Wilson a week ago. 1322 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 4: The Broncos, we get it. 1323 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: They they were shredded on the ground by Miami. So 1324 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: there's breeze Hall, there's your opportunity. They have allowed the 1325 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: league high passer rating of one hundred and thirty three 1326 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: point four, which is the second worst through four games 1327 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: by any defense this century. So there are doorways for 1328 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to have to build on last week, Like 1329 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: if that was an aberration and we go back to 1330 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: what he is like all right, but that could have 1331 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: a little bit to do with Nathaniel Hackett. It's tough 1332 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 1: for me to give him credit. But we throw these 1333 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: revenge games around all over the place. Zach Wilson should like, 1334 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson should want revenge on everyone. 1335 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 5: This is this is Sean pay Hackett versus Payton. 1336 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: Hackett said, and this is this is the thing I 1337 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: this is what I take from Sean Payton after all 1338 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 1: that nonsense and what Sean Payton's been through. But by 1339 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: the way, Sean Payton, like, who's gonna talk about you 1340 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: next year when they take over the Broncos coaching job. 1341 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 4: At this he continues to go south. 1342 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 1: But he never he called Hacket back, never even called 1343 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: I just I know of course he did bothers me. 1344 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: And it's like Nathaniel Hackett, like I'm not sure he's 1345 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: good at what he does, but it's like he has 1346 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: a revenge game. 1347 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 3: And this, by the way, this was this was the 1348 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 3: whole point back in the summer. Was Peyton wrong what 1349 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 3: he said about Hackett, like in terms of what Hackett 1350 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 3: did as the head coach. No, but the reason why 1351 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 3: you don't do it is because of the fraternity and 1352 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 3: everyone gets their ass kicked at different points in the league. 1353 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 3: And Sean Payton if he if he fails here and 1354 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 3: so far it's not looking so hot. Of course, you 1355 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 3: don't want the next guy that takes over to say, yeah, 1356 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 3: well the last guy sucked at his job. 1357 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 4: So you know, we're bringing some order to this place. 1358 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 3: Because it's a hard thing, like coaching football is hard, 1359 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 3: and you don't want anybody stopping on your grave because 1360 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 3: everybody gets to come up. It's even Bill Belichick. Check 1361 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 3: out the time, right or in conversation we had yesterday. 1362 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 5: Everything you say I completely agree with. And yet as 1363 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 5: a you know, third party, I'm fine with it. I 1364 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 5: like it. I think, I like I like getting spicy. 1365 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 2: It's still just football. 1366 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 5: It's not perfectly like I'm he's not saying Hackett's a 1367 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 5: bad human, and I like that. If Peyton had lost 1368 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 5: that Bears game, this would have been more of a 1369 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 5: delightful uh to be because we would be talking about, 1370 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 5: you know, the worst coaching job ever. And here the 1371 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 5: Broncos are zero to four. It's somehow less exciting when 1372 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 5: they're both one and three. It's certainly less exciting without 1373 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers involved. I do want to see Zach Wilson 1374 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 5: build on it because he's had a couple professional efforts 1375 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 5: in his career. I went back to see if that 1376 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 5: was his highest PFF grade. You know, he had like 1377 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 5: a in the mid seven Tennessee game last ye Yeah, 1378 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 5: there was like a Jacksonville game. I think as a 1379 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 5: rookie that he's had three or four games where it worked. 1380 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 5: For that game, I think what he showed last week 1381 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 5: was a little more next level than what he had before. 1382 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 5: It was less about just the scheme. It was more 1383 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 5: about him. So but do it again and so then 1384 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 5: we'll start feeling even better. They have gotten some good 1385 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 5: pass rush out Nick Benito and Jonathan Cooper for the 1386 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 5: Broncos that helped help turn it around. So that that's 1387 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 5: a matchup and to watch. And the one thing with 1388 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 5: Peyton is offensively, you know, I do want to give 1389 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 5: him some credit that I think it's working. They're a 1390 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 5: competent offense. They've improved quite a bit offensively. Russell Wilson 1391 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 5: has improved. He's not hurting them. And they remind me 1392 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 5: a lot of the post Brieze Saints, which weren't great, 1393 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 5: but everyone would try out those stats like Teddy Bridgewater 1394 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 5: and Jamis Winston and Taysom Hill. If you combine their 1395 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 5: win loss record when they replace Drew Brees or after 1396 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 5: dew Brees was like fifteen and seven, and like, they're 1397 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 5: running that kind of offense which isn't esthetically appealing, but 1398 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 5: it's effective and it's efficient. So if they can get 1399 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 5: anything out of their defense, the Broncos could turn their 1400 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 5: season round. I like the Jets in this game, though, 1401 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 5: I'm taking them on NFL game debut, our name on it, I. 1402 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 4: Find my name. I like that touchdowns, give me three touchdowns. 1403 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 5: I don't remember what the score was. The Broncos are 1404 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 5: favored though, by one and a half, because. 1405 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 4: If they if they score. 1406 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 3: Three touchdowns, I think the Jets de will harass Russell 1407 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 3: Wilson enough into turnovers that will put them in a 1408 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 3: position to win the game. I don't trust it because 1409 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 3: I've been hurt too many times. But Julia McLoughlin, he 1410 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 3: was fast and shifty against the Bears. Lookout Javonte Williams. 1411 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 5: Who I think he's probably out this week, went out with. 1412 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 3: A hip injury. I believe in this game. That's something 1413 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 3: to keep an eye on. And I'm super annoyed didn't 1414 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 3: pick him up in fantasy. But that's all the other conversation. 1415 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 3: I think he could be a producer in that Denver offense. 1416 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: It's like, I get it, we're talking about Zach Wilson 1417 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: left and right, but it's like the Jets defensive line 1418 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 1: go wreck the entire operation in Denver. 1419 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 4: They've been good and that's part of solid solid too. 1420 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 3: I said it last week, and you know you don't 1421 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,439 Speaker 3: just have to defend on depend on that front, fury 1422 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 3: great pressure you could you can mix things up and 1423 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 3: confuse Russell Wilson and get. 1424 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: Get after it. They did a great job against Patrick Mahomes, 1425 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: who was a lost a lost pop, as was Josh 1426 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Allen in week one. 1427 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 3: So those are arguably the two best quarterbacks in the 1428 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 3: league in the first four weeks that got screened ambled 1429 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 3: by the Jets. 1430 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 4: They should be able to do some things to get 1431 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 4: Russell Wilson to make mistakes. Whin you play to win 1432 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 4: the game, as Herman Edwards once said, win this game. 1433 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I am going to be upset on Sunday night. 1434 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 3: The people that like when I'm upset, Yes, you'll you'll 1435 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 3: be very happy if we can't find a way to 1436 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 3: win this week, because you got it's a gotta have 1437 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 3: a game all right up next. 1438 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 2: That's all the more reason for me. 1439 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 4: To route a little ominous. 1440 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: For the rest of the cast here, including the people 1441 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: behind the glass. 1442 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 3: It's largely I I hope I internalize the pain. It 1443 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 3: will creep out here and. 1444 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 4: There, but I want you to feel that, Paine. 1445 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 5: You know, none of us you know we've been around 1446 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 5: each other. There's no internalizing possible for any of us. 1447 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 5: It's like we feel that the energy. Yeah, okay, how 1448 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 5: about real friends, how about it? It would be so 1449 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 5: crazy for a little positive energy. 1450 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would ten years this show, a little positive 1451 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 3: green energy emanating on a Sunday night. 1452 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 5: It's not the as after let me know what you 1453 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 5: think about, you know, Matt Ryan and the booth after 1454 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 5: this game. 1455 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that. All right, Mark, you're hey, 1456 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 3: I forgot your name just now. I was looking at 1457 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,919 Speaker 3: m and I was like, Mike, do I work with Mike. 1458 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Whenever someone like just blanks my name, it quickly goes 1459 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: to matter. 1460 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 4: Mike anyway, Uh, Matt Cessler, you're up? 1461 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Or Matilda, let's see uh Tennessee at Indianapolis. Maggie, Now 1462 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: I used to get Marcy. 1463 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,760 Speaker 4: I don't like that. I mean, just because it's a 1464 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 4: playoff m A r C. 1465 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 3: So Marci Marcy Sessler is a reception receptionist. She's cheery, 1466 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 3: she's zaftig and build, but everybody love it. 1467 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: That's not me though, that's Marcy Sessler. 1468 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:51,160 Speaker 4: Okay, but like parallel universe, actually that's my body. 1469 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 5: As we're definitely getting a photoshop of Marshy from some 1470 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 5: donated Why did I open that door? 1471 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: All right? Uh here, I'll open this door. Tennis See 1472 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: at Indianapolis. What are they still doing hanging out down here? 1473 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 2: What about you? 1474 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 5: It's rare that, like, yeah, your your fourth pick is 1475 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 5: way way better than your first pick. 1476 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 4: So I think Scott whoka nakua right here. 1477 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Just watch an old Seinfeld episode about it was one 1478 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 3: of the greatest ones ever, even Steve and Jerry like, 1479 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 3: and everything works out for Jerry. And in the episode, 1480 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 3: George gets the job of the Yankees and he moves 1481 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 3: out of his parents' house, and then Elaine loses her 1482 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 3: job and gets kicked out of her apartment, and Jerry's 1483 01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:26,959 Speaker 3: right in the middle. 1484 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 4: He's like, he came out. 1485 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Even you're up, I Jerry in this equation, you're even Stephen, 1486 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: You're I'm also a zaftig receptionist in the middle of 1487 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 1: the country in an alternate universe, right, yeah, yeah, Tennessee 1488 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: at the Colts, we'll get back to the game here, 1489 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, maybe we might see him. He's healthy, he said, 1490 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. 1491 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, we have sound I'd like to hear 1492 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 4: from j T. 1493 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, who you know obviously wanted out this summer and 1494 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 3: then showed up with the team at the opening of 1495 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 3: his practice window, and now he might be part of 1496 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 3: a very exciting offense. Jonathan Twner spoke to the media 1497 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 3: for the first time on Thursday. 1498 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 8: Now, I'm here right now, and my number one thing 1499 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 8: is to take care of my teammates. A lot of 1500 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 8: people worry about what I want, what I want. It 1501 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 8: doesn't matter what necessarily I want. What matters is what 1502 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 8: this team needs, with this team wants, with this city wants, 1503 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 8: and with this city needs. 1504 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what the city needs as a championship. 1505 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 8: And while I'm here, that's what I'm gonna work my 1506 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 8: tail off to dude, That's what I work my tail 1507 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 8: off to get the opportunity to do. You know, I 1508 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 8: think when you've been out for a while, you start 1509 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 8: looking at it and you say, man, when you have 1510 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 8: that opportunity. And I never took it for granted. But 1511 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 8: even when it's taken away, you still are like, man, 1512 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,360 Speaker 8: that was a great opportunity, and I can't wait to 1513 01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 8: have another opportunity. So, like I said, I never took 1514 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 8: it for granted. And at all, so you know, help 1515 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:45,920 Speaker 8: comes first. 1516 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 1: Like the one thing you hear about Jonathan Taylor, Yeah 1517 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: from everyone is like incredible teammate, like a rock in 1518 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 1: the locker room, like the guy they all kind of 1519 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: look to, especially when you have a quarterback to look 1520 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: to in years past, and so I think all that 1521 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent who he is. 1522 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 4: And it's true. 1523 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: It's also like if you if you hold out a 1524 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 1: couple more weeks, you don't become a free agent after 1525 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 1: the season. So it's like the axis of like, no, 1526 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: you are in what you need to do with your career. 1527 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to put too much into it. And 1528 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 3: check out the show which is on Fast Television and YouTube, 1529 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 3: but that looks like a guy that has come to 1530 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 3: terms with his situation. 1531 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 2: Gredity Ducks. 1532 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's optimistic and excited to play football and 1533 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 3: there's no sucking there and I think, you know, if 1534 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 3: he's healthy, I'm telling you look out if this offense 1535 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 3: has twenty twenty one Jonathan Taylor. 1536 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, I'm with you, because it's like I think 1537 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 1: a year ago, like Jonathan Taylor, probably for business reasons, 1538 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: would return, but it's like return to a hot mess 1539 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: that was getting uglier by the week. Now it's like 1540 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 1: you're in the Shanstike in offense where people are being 1541 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: used well Zach Moss. I think part of the reason 1542 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Zach Moss succeeded is this offense and the way it's 1543 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: put together. That said, the Cult still ranked twenty seventh 1544 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: in the league of running characters carries of five plus yards. 1545 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor gives you that, It's like, I don't. That 1546 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: kind of threw me because I feel like Zach Moss 1547 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: had done a nice job over the last couple. 1548 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 4: Weeks, and he had two hundred and eighty yards and 1549 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,640 Speaker 4: three games. He's been good. 1550 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,280 Speaker 1: But then you just put in the quarterback situation and 1551 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: it's like I kind of don't care about the stats 1552 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,840 Speaker 1: on Anthony Richardson thirty second in the league in completion percentage. 1553 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 4: That can change. 1554 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 1: We've seen that change with Josh Allen other quarterbacks as well. 1555 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to change it. Like, I don't 1556 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 4: know if if that's who he is. 1557 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 3: Also a small sample size it has like like a 1558 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 3: twenty for twenty eight day. 1559 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 2: He's probably middle of the two and a half games. 1560 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Sure, but like I mean, I guess like that stands 1561 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 1: out in today's NFL yards rookies. 1562 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 2: Yards for attempt. 1563 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 5: I would guess he's, you know, middle of the pack 1564 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 5: because that's a point mark. 1565 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 1: He leads the league in explosive plays and on the 1566 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: ground and there so it's. 1567 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 4: Like, wait, the whole league in two and a half games. 1568 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Twelve plus runs of twelve plus yards and passes of 1569 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: twenty plus carries, leading the league in those and that 1570 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: type a little. 1571 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 3: More than half the game's played. He leads that stat 1572 01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 3: That is eye opening. 1573 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 4: I totally agree missed an entire game at one point. 1574 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, but he but that's we're talking about a 1575 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 1: quarterback running those plays. There aren't that many quarterbacks doing that, yep, 1576 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: and they aren't. They aren't also that not that much. 1577 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 1: So it's like Anthony Richardson is like this completely watchable. 1578 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,640 Speaker 4: He's not a project. 1579 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: Like I know, that's sort of what they was billed at, 1580 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: but that's that's not what I see because what he 1581 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 1: can do is the best anything anyone's is on the field. 1582 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: And like I like the Colts defensive line, I think 1583 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: to Forrest Buckner, I don't know what kind of car 1584 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: you would fit in if he drove He's just a 1585 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 1: massive there's a lot to like, there's some injuries on 1586 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. 1587 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 4: A Toyota Highlander, what a automobile? Is that? A dominiative car? 1588 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying that, I don't even know 1589 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 4: that's a sponsor and you should be intimately familiar. Well, 1590 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 4: you fit him in any way you can into that vehicle, then. 1591 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 5: Maybe hums throw him in one of those. Yeah, they 1592 01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,560 Speaker 5: look pretty good. Although last week the Rams did a 1593 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 5: good job job. You mentioned Josh Allen. To me, that 1594 01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 5: is the best comp for Richardson in almost every way. 1595 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 5: And you think about Josh Allen as a rookie, and 1596 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 5: I do think there are certain aspects Richardson is a 1597 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 5: little ahead of him. Maybe not in the accuracy that's 1598 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 5: gonna be up and down, but he's already sliding a lot. 1599 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 2: I like that. 1600 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 5: Like Josh Allen just slid for the first time and 1601 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 5: got apparently got like a quarter. 1602 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 4: For it first to jump over six to three lines. 1603 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 2: Well, he said, Sean McDermott said. 1604 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 5: Sean McDermott said he had a little something like they 1605 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,799 Speaker 5: he was getting something from Sean McDermott, a little extra 1606 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 5: bonus or something it was like an illegal I don't 1607 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 5: think it was anything that was going to change Josh 1608 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 5: Allen's life. They were having fun, but also like the 1609 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 5: pocket movement, Like I think he is a little more 1610 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 5: developed than we expected. He's going up against a Titans defense, 1611 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,439 Speaker 5: which is good up front. We know that Jeffrey Simmons 1612 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 5: is playing great. Tierre Tart might be out for this game. 1613 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,760 Speaker 5: I have noticed that the Titans offensive line year after 1614 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 5: year the very worst in the league. This year, I 1615 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 5: think the goal is like, let's shuffle the deck. Let's 1616 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 5: hope to get better to average. Maybe they are they 1617 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 5: you know, they open up. 1618 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:03,679 Speaker 2: Some holes last week. 1619 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,680 Speaker 4: Some of their metrics shuffled. They move some guys around. 1620 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 5: Uh no, just play. Skoransky hasn't been healthy. Some are 1621 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 5: taken behind the building. 1622 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Andre Dillard hasn't really been great. 1623 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 5: But if you look at their past block win rate, 1624 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 5: they're run like they're not great. It's like twenty third, 1625 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 5: twenty first. But it had been like a hard thirty 1626 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,040 Speaker 5: thirty two third, you know, in all the PFF and 1627 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 5: the win rates, and now it's like, okay, maybe you're 1628 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 5: not going to be embarrassing. 1629 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,200 Speaker 2: And then that gives Ryan tannel chance and. 1630 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 5: Also scoring team. Though they're like Patriots South in a 1631 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:34,639 Speaker 5: not a good way. 1632 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 4: Scornsky practiced this week so or on Wednesday. 1633 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 2: They're better though. 1634 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 4: I think they are juicier than the Patriots. 1635 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're a better team. But it just 1636 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 5: feels like, Oh, this team's still around in this same way. Oh, 1637 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 5: that's surprising. You know how team's changed so fast? It 1638 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 5: sure hasn't so much. This could be a problem, Mark, 1639 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 5: This could be a close game. 1640 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 2: Titans are favored by two. 1641 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 1: I don't know where the narratives coming from, because I 1642 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: I think the thing is when you go try to 1643 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,600 Speaker 1: pick a blowout it goes in overtime that there is 1644 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: no way it does have that way. I have not 1645 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: covered the Falcons on a sun or the Dolphins on 1646 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 1: a Sunday. That is a large reason why I picked them. 1647 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 2: I like to mix it up too, Yeah, all the same. 1648 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 1: I've had the Cults like four times though, so you know, 1649 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 1: backed right into it. 1650 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 4: Beautiful, All right, Greg, you're up. 1651 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 5: All right. I'm gonna take the Bengals at the Cardinals. 1652 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,800 Speaker 5: Bengals are favored by two and a half in this game. 1653 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 5: Feels generous. I'm taking the Cardinals to win this game. 1654 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 5: I just think you gotta trust. 1655 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 4: That is generous, that's spread. 1656 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 2: You gotta trust what you see. 1657 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 5: At some point, yeah, Cincinnati could suddenly get a better 1658 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 5: version of Joe Burrow, but to this point, I'm just 1659 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 5: gonna look, and this is live DVOA. On the season, 1660 01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 5: the Cardinals are sixteen. That sounds about right. They've looked 1661 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,680 Speaker 5: like an average team. The Bengals are much lower on 1662 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 5: that list. Gotta keep scrolling twenty six, and it's not 1663 01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 5: just because of Joe Burrow. The defense is twenty fifth. 1664 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 5: I talked about pass block win rate just with the Titans. 1665 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 5: You know who's second to last in that stat right now, 1666 01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,440 Speaker 5: the Cincinnati Bengals today. So you've got a bad offensive line. 1667 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 5: We've talked the quarterback to death Burrow, and the defense 1668 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 5: is quite bla. 1669 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 2: You've scored three touchdowns. 1670 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,160 Speaker 5: We're entering Week five, and you've given up over one 1671 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy rushing yards in three out of four games. 1672 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 5: And I look at this Cardinals team and the way 1673 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 5: Josh Dobbs is running and the way Connor's running and 1674 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 5: the scheme, and I think if they can be close 1675 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 5: in this game, they should be able to run the ball. 1676 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 5: Maybe the Bengals step up again. They had a one 1677 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 5: great game against LA but other than that, their defense 1678 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 5: has been bla And that's why I think to this 1679 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,719 Speaker 5: point in the season, the Cardinals have been a little 1680 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 5: better team. And this might be lights out if you 1681 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 5: lose in your the Bengals in this one, this must 1682 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 5: win side, that's way I know. But wouldn't that have 1683 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 5: the last week too? I don't know, But this is 1684 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 5: like the perfect matchup of like before. 1685 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 1: This is the perfect matchup of like team we are 1686 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 1: struggling to believe is problematic on all sorts of fronts, 1687 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 1: and team we're struggling to believe is real on all 1688 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,040 Speaker 1: sorts of fronts. But I just want to read a 1689 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,519 Speaker 1: couple quick things about this Bengals offense to add to 1690 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: what you said, Greg, they have four completions of twenty 1691 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,200 Speaker 1: or more yards last year over four games. Over sixteen 1692 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 1: games last year. That game canceled fifty three. They aren't 1693 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 1: that same offense. He Burrow is two of twenty two 1694 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 1: throwing the ball more than fifteen yards. He had fifty 1695 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,679 Speaker 1: percent a year ago. He is obviously throwing shorter, quicker 1696 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 1: releak passes, but it's not working. None of their screen 1697 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: passes this year gain more than ten yards. They have 1698 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 1: fewer drives of twenty five plus yards than Miami has 1699 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,839 Speaker 1: plays of twenty five plus yards. Three percent of Burrow's 1700 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,599 Speaker 1: on target throws have been dropped. So it is Burrow 1701 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: and there's certain things he can't do. We can see 1702 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: that visually, but it is the environment. It's the people 1703 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: around him, so Jamar Chase getting all set and all 1704 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 1: this sof it's like there are all sorts of things 1705 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 1: happening here. 1706 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 3: Also the opponents are part of this too. They've been 1707 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 3: It's been a tough schedule out of the gate for them. 1708 01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 3: They at Cleveland Ravens Rams, which they won that game 1709 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 3: but scored nineteen and not a great defense. But you know, 1710 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 3: still at Tennessee, which is a tough draw. I'm already 1711 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 3: as a Bengals fan panicking about the season because the 1712 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 3: in part because the expectations are so high and now 1713 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,879 Speaker 3: you're one in three. But like Arizona, I know they're 1714 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 3: in some level a good story so far that they've 1715 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 3: been competitive. But if Cincinnati has anything in them in 1716 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 3: terms of en Burrow's quoted this week. We need we 1717 01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 3: need a win for morale, and I believe in the 1718 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,960 Speaker 3: power of Burrow as a leader, and I think I 1719 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 3: really do feel to do it. 1720 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 4: I feel very very what's what is it again? 1721 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 2: The Bengals are favorite one and a half two and 1722 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 2: a half. 1723 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,840 Speaker 3: I feel very strongly that Cincinnati figures out a way 1724 01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 3: to get it done. 1725 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 1: Now. 1726 01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,120 Speaker 3: I don't know is t Higgins playing in this game. 1727 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 3: That's not a good situation. 1728 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 4: I think he is gonna. I heard he's gonna try 1729 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,640 Speaker 4: to grit it through with a broken. 1730 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 5: Rib despite being you know, he's in a contract year 1731 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,439 Speaker 5: and that can go both ways, like you yourself, But 1732 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,559 Speaker 5: he also wants some numbers and he's struggling right now, 1733 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,879 Speaker 5: and I think he wants to put up something. 1734 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 1: And it's a test for him. 1735 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 3: It's a test obviously also for Zach Taylor, who's gotten 1736 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 3: some criticism here about the offensive game plan. 1737 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 4: They need to figure something out. 1738 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 3: And I think you're gonna see a team, even if 1739 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 3: maybe I don't believe in them because of the way 1740 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 3: the setup is. I think you're gonna see them come 1741 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 3: to life a little bit, score some points to win 1742 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 3: this game. 1743 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,200 Speaker 5: I agree with you, and I think it's because of 1744 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 5: the matchup. Like as as good a story as the 1745 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon's been, his defense has been quite mediocre. 1746 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 2: They're thirtieth in DVOA. 1747 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 5: There's one play caller though, in this game that I 1748 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 5: do trust to like make make the most out of 1749 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 5: what he's got. It's not Zach Taylor Captain Lou It's 1750 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,600 Speaker 5: Drew Pencing. It's Drew Pencing. Okay, let's get ready for 1751 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 5: some head coaching interviews. Drew Pencing. I just think a 1752 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 5: guy that has Jacoby Brissette in your like as a 1753 01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 5: top ten EPA per play guy, and then the next 1754 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 5: it takes Josh Dobbs and he's playing really well, and 1755 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,599 Speaker 5: they're seventh in DVOA. 1756 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Right now. 1757 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,080 Speaker 5: Offensively, Michael Wilson and Marky's Brown are both on pace 1758 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 5: for a thousand yards, Like Drew Pencing, what a guy? 1759 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: So did you? 1760 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 4: Okay? 1761 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 5: So is that how E E t z I n 1762 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 5: G Petzing I would say QB coach a year ago, 1763 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 5: I totally messed out. I guess they give him all 1764 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 5: the credit for the Browns last year he was just 1765 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,040 Speaker 5: a QB coach. So I'm connecting a few too many 1766 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,000 Speaker 5: dots but he's having a nice start to his career as. 1767 01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 1: A first time playing callers too well. I mean I 1768 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: would say this, like, they can run the ball. That's 1769 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 1: gonna Cincinnati's gonna have to deal with the cards right 1770 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:40,320 Speaker 1: now have more rushing yards per game than the Cowboys, Bills, Chiefs, Lions, 1771 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 1: and Falcons. 1772 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,280 Speaker 3: If I didn't feel so hot about the lock of 1773 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 3: the Bills and the fact that you guys are on 1774 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,240 Speaker 3: the lock as well, I would absolutely move to Cincinnati 1775 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 3: and put my belief in Burrow. It would be gutsy, 1776 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 3: but I can't do it because you're it's just too 1777 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 3: good a lock this week, and that is the kiss 1778 01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 3: of death. 1779 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars will win in London. Yeah, that was 1780 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: way too confident, right, it's over, But that gives Greg 1781 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 1: his first loss, So I would actually take that. Let's 1782 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:08,160 Speaker 1: let's go Jacks. 1783 01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of pointless when we're all on the 1784 01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:10,280 Speaker 2: same lock. 1785 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 1: But no, it's just a week where you carry it forward. 1786 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this driving down. It's like it 1787 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: feels a little showman free. You're two and two, right, Yeah, 1788 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 1: but I can't, like, I can't stilarly. I only think 1789 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: about myself, my own locker room, in my own organization. 1790 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 3: We have the standings so far. Yeah, we've been looking 1791 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,759 Speaker 3: for this. A little check in at the quarterpole. Greg 1792 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 3: off to a four A spell. 1793 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 4: Check their clowns. 1794 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 1: Wait, I'm still doing this. 1795 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 4: We got a k. 1796 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: He's still doing this. 1797 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 4: We got a k on Sessler on Mark clown show. Greg, 1798 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 4: you're off to a four. 1799 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh start the zuzzer got one point beat in a 1800 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 1: week one with the Chiefs, and now I'm three and one. 1801 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: Hold on, so it's not alphabetical? Why am I below 1802 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 1: the Westling mother? Right? 1803 01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, the Wesley, good job by Phil taking over. 1804 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: Uh Wes and Mark? 1805 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 4: Such easy fudder too easy. 1806 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 3: It's it's actually not right, and I personally condone it 1807 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:08,640 Speaker 3: on everyone. 1808 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 4: Not instigate it or trigger it. 1809 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's get this last draft. 1810 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: Ever to do such a thing. 1811 01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 4: All right. One more. 1812 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,439 Speaker 5: I wanted to avoid this game, and now I got 1813 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,640 Speaker 5: the worst of all scenarios. I got Saints at Patriots. 1814 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 5: Patriots favored by one as my backup early game. This 1815 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 5: game is not gonna have any offense. I like the 1816 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 5: Saints defense unbalanced. They eventually capitulated last week, but their 1817 01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,800 Speaker 5: offense is maybe more brutal to watch than the Patriots. 1818 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,760 Speaker 5: New England's coming off a week where they lost their 1819 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,599 Speaker 5: potentially their best two players for the season, Matthew Judon 1820 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 5: and Christian Gonzales. Judan is maybe hoping to return late 1821 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 5: in the season from a torn biceps, which sometimes is possible. 1822 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 5: Gonzales for what reason, it sounds like it is out 1823 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 5: for to come back. 1824 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 4: In Week eighteen and knock the Jets out of the playoffs. 1825 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,799 Speaker 4: That's that's my prediction. 1826 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 5: Look, I don't think the Patriots have any chance. We 1827 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,559 Speaker 5: went over them a lot this week with Tom Kurran. 1828 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 5: This is a brutal schedule that they have all season. 1829 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 5: The next two weeks are the softest part. They're home 1830 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 5: for New Orleans at Las Vegas. They'll have a chance 1831 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 5: to win each of those games. They they could lose both, 1832 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 5: they could win both. I don't know, and I don't 1833 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,760 Speaker 5: think it's gonna matter in the long run. It's like, 1834 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 5: how do they both respond to complete no shows? Because 1835 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 5: Patriots got a lot of attention here, but in New 1836 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,839 Speaker 5: Orleans that loss against the Bucks was like, oh my god, 1837 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,559 Speaker 5: what have we done? Is Derek Carr any better than 1838 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 5: Andy Dalton? You know some people might disagree. It's like, Okay, 1839 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,960 Speaker 5: he's hurt. I don't know, he's throwing the ball sixty 1840 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 5: yards down the field. He's doing things. Maybe they adjusted 1841 01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,639 Speaker 5: the offense. Is there play caller Pete Carmichael really ready 1842 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 5: for this job? 1843 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 4: Like? 1844 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 2: Is he creative enough? 1845 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 5: We have a lot of talent In New Orleans, they 1846 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 5: played a better offensive line. And you can't score a 1847 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 5: touchdown on Todd Bowl. I know you put up nine points. 1848 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,719 Speaker 1: Thro out the Bulls, so you can't go both ways 1849 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 1: on that one. 1850 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 5: Well, I get it. But the Bucks defense well coached. 1851 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 5: I'm not going to say they're a top five unit 1852 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 5: or anything. So how did both of these teams respond 1853 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,320 Speaker 5: after really embarrassing Week fours? And because it's got to 1854 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,320 Speaker 5: be dark in one of these. 1855 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,719 Speaker 1: It was very just the whole the vibe at the Superdome, 1856 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,479 Speaker 1: which is one of the more fun places to watch 1857 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 1: a football game, just. 1858 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 4: Very a dead zone. 1859 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 5: I mean Derek Carr taking like an immediate checkdown on 1860 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,639 Speaker 5: a third and nine when you're down. 1861 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, he took some big hits. 1862 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 5: He held the ball forever in that game. I saw 1863 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,080 Speaker 5: no evidence of his injury in particular, and if he's 1864 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 5: out there, you have to value it what's out there, 1865 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 5: And sometimes he was perfectly protected and he's just oh, 1866 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 5: let's get another three yards to Kamara on third and 1867 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,080 Speaker 5: nine when we need it, when we need a touchdown. 1868 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,840 Speaker 5: I mean it was the decision making was terrible at 1869 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 5: a car. 1870 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,800 Speaker 3: A lot of those checkdowns could be the result, even 1871 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 3: if you don't see him win sing of a different type. 1872 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,280 Speaker 4: Of so fine. 1873 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 1: So I'd even accept, like, let's say that he will 1874 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 1: find out down the road that he was injured in 1875 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 1: that game or played through pain. Well, we know he did, okay, 1876 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 1: but what about what about the other weeks? Like he's 1877 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 1: not He's just. 1878 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 3: Not Like fine, I know, did you see Jameis Winston's 1879 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 3: moon ball when he gave this game? 1880 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,200 Speaker 1: But I'm not kidding, that's what you signed up for. 1881 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I want to read embarrassing him to Jamis wins Here's 1882 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,360 Speaker 1: they paid a ton of money to Derek Carr and 1883 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 1: I feel like Alway said, it's going to be frustrating, 1884 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: and it's very frustrated. 1885 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 2: Okay. 1886 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,600 Speaker 5: So here's their their totals on offense this season sixteen, 1887 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,160 Speaker 5: twenty ten and nine. Oh well, they must have played 1888 01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 5: the most brutal like defensive scheduled in the league. 1889 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 1: They got. 1890 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 5: No, it's Titans good defense, not amazing Panthers, Packers, Bucks. 1891 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,639 Speaker 5: I mean, they're one of the worst offenses in the league. 1892 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 5: I don't know exactly why or how, but that's just 1893 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 5: the fact. 1894 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they seem directionless. It just yeah. 1895 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 5: Now he got to play the Patriots, who are down 1896 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 5: a few players, but coming off a loss. I don't 1897 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,600 Speaker 5: think they're going to suddenly start scoring. I'm expecting this 1898 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 5: game to be about twelve to eleven. 1899 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 1: I do think though that like, yeah, I'm with you, 1900 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 1: it should not It should be Orleans for England and 1901 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 1: take the new out of both because they feel old 1902 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: and stale. 1903 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 4: To me, this is good. 1904 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 2: But Ran did you pre write yet? 1905 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 1: You can shut it down. You could close the left 1906 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:08,719 Speaker 1: on your don Mark. 1907 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:09,479 Speaker 2: I don't want to. 1908 01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 5: Pack myself on the back, but I have stopped looking 1909 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:11,800 Speaker 5: at his computer. 1910 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:14,960 Speaker 4: Done death, the new the whole business. We got it. 1911 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,280 Speaker 4: You came from another part of the air. Have a 1912 01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,799 Speaker 4: nice time. But how about Like I do like their defense. 1913 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,559 Speaker 5: I think they I think it's a really good They 1914 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 5: can absolutely rattle an unwatchable Patriots offense. 1915 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 1: Brian Berzi kicked people's butts last week. I thought the 1916 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 1: Saint Stevie's they got fried on a couple of plays. 1917 01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 1: But that's the thing you can rely on. 1918 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,680 Speaker 5: And I mean Adamore and uh Alante Taylor as good 1919 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,439 Speaker 5: as it gets for a cornerback. 1920 01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,639 Speaker 1: Do this crazy PFF stat on Mac Jones last week 1921 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:44,559 Speaker 1: and we get We know that game was a black 1922 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: mirror scenario for the whole team, But turnover worthy plays 1923 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 1: on twenty one percent of his snaps versus Dallas. I 1924 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,720 Speaker 1: don't all that from a quarterback that didn't come in 1925 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,800 Speaker 1: for like ten snaps or eight snaps and then threw 1926 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,360 Speaker 1: a two picks. 1927 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 3: It was bad and I love you know currness. Guess 1928 01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 3: what Tom Current? Yeah Belichick does think think you're a 1929 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 3: dink now? Because he was ethering the Patriots on our 1930 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:11,759 Speaker 3: show yesterday. 1931 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 2: You see him on the local broadcast. 1932 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah all right, good good, good, good good stuff. Oh 1933 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 3: do you guys want to see, just out of curiosity, 1934 01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,120 Speaker 3: what Drew Petsing looks like Cardinals off in scorner. 1935 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:31,880 Speaker 4: I've looked this up. 1936 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: Well, he was. 1937 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 4: It was the Browns check. 1938 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 1: Out on TV and on YouTube. 1939 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 4: Yes, looks like uh like Mike Garafolo's brother. 1940 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I could or yeah, absolutely another Garifolo 1941 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: using a different man's last name. 1942 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,920 Speaker 3: Like a guy that like a guy that really can 1943 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 3: handle himself in cornhole. That's that's what Drew Petsing looks like. 1944 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,720 Speaker 3: If if you can't see the show we just described. 1945 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,639 Speaker 5: It, Yeah, and check it out on YouTube and check 1946 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 5: out our bonus ap coming this week with Nick Chuck 1947 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,599 Speaker 5: Little qv in dex Talk. You made it this far 1948 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 5: in a previous show, you're are kind of listener you're gonna. 1949 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 1: Or if you fast forward to this, I hope that's 1950 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 1: the case, But that's the could you could get here 1951 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 1: by that pathway? 1952 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 4: Don't do that? 1953 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:16,760 Speaker 1: All right? 1954 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 4: Everyone for always supporting our show. 1955 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 3: Yes, plenty more to come NFL plus uh Thursday Night 1956 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 3: recap coming up tonight, Bonusp with Nicky Shook and then 1957 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 3: the Flagship Show on Sunday till then Dan hands a 1958 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 3: signing off for. 1959 01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 4: Quiet Star on The Old Boss, Eric Roberts Behind the 1960 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:36,759 Speaker 4: Glass 1961 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:38,880 Speaker 1: Glass Heed the Call