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Speaker 1: She sang the computer song.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to kicking button

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Speaker 3: What were you saying, Oh, secrets, Mmmm, we've all got

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Speaker 1: Got one. And it's like a butthole or something that

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Speaker 3: We've all got them and we all want to get

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Speaker 1: Pete Postlewaite, Okay. You know how he is baldy used

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Speaker 3: Patrick, Oh, he's gonna be so peeved.

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Speaker 1: He was the famous boy, little boy and almost famous.

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Speaker 3: We think he's going to be a big honking deal.

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Speaker 3: He does Spun or whatever that drugs movie, Yes, it

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Hollywood. Ha kicky button dropping names in

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Speaker 2: Ooh what up?

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Speaker 1: What? Welcome back to a guest we've had in the

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Speaker 1: PA here again and he's back. John Cochrane, Cochran, thank

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much for having me now.

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Speaker 1: Cochran.

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Speaker 3: When we last spoke, you were a millionaire who lived

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Speaker 1: Skelington because you we should he he, we should catch

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Speaker 3: Being well, you'd have to subscribe to Howl Cochran. That

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Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do, by the way, just

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Speaker 1: Have to hear how premium subscribe.

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Speaker 2: That's not something your Wolf asked us to do.

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Speaker 5: It's not something they.

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Speaker 5: Right, your mom, Yeah, So my mom is she lives

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Speaker 3: The xylophone so much as it's playing its own ribcage

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Speaker 1: Ye, that's not a real xylophone. I don't know, billar.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that what you claimed? And it's a weird thing

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Speaker 5: I don't have a dog.

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Speaker 5: So my mom she she fosters she actually she fosters

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Speaker 3: Holding up fake busted dude, we should be on MythBusters.

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Speaker 3: You're dead meat?

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Speaker 5: And do you think that I somehow reanimated hers? This

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you like to take credit when really,

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Speaker 5: Cochrane, It's difficult for me to address it just because

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Speaker 5: Dads, my dad's a perfect my dad. My dad's a doctor,

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Speaker 3: Doctor Frankinstein, his wicked experiments.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. She was hanging in his office and

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Speaker 1: What's going on for you? Since you won a million

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Speaker 5: So what was lesson? Was I on here a year

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Speaker 5: ago or two years ago?

444
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Speaker 2: I can't remember, don't care?

445
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 5: Okay, So I I survived read it two years ago,

446
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 5: and shortly after that, as a result of being on

447
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: the show, I got a job writing for a sitcom

448
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 5: out here.

449
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: Where are the Miller's Yep?

450
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

451
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 5: Remember I remember you being repeated repeatedly referring to the Miller's.

452
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Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to go to Mexico. If you guys

453
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: haven't seen Where the Millers. It's great sitcom Cochran created

454
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: where the guys are trying to go to Mexico and

455
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: the one kid find Spider and spants with the spider

456
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: bites dude's dick and it gets crazy and dude best gag.

457
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: And it was in all the trailers and I think

458
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Speaker 2: you should have done it ten more times. That's my

459
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Speaker 2: only note.

460
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so the Miller said, Margot Martin Dale and Will

461
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 5: Arnett and JB. Smooth, it was not I mean, I

462
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: would be happy to take credit for the Spider scene

463
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 5: and where the Millers. I agree that was a good movie,

464
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 5: but it had nothing to do with me.

465
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Speaker 2: That was a movie I was working on it sitcom

466
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Speaker 2: Siaking Wet Jennifers and Dances in the Water. You remember

467
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Speaker 2: this ace, Yeah.

468
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Speaker 1: Speak on that.

469
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Speaker 5: I mean, just in the abstract. It was like an

470
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Speaker 5: erotic scene.

471
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Speaker 3: As I'll tell you, probably would have looked like a

472
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: spider bit my this dude's dick.

473
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm on e Except for that. Holy shit.

474
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to Survivor. Yes, the champion. You beat

475
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: two women in their early forties, one of whom had

476
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Speaker 1: an autistic son.

477
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: So you're a referend to Sherry, who's a lovely woman

478
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 5: that I you know that I did get to play.

479
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: What do you say every time you mentioned any woman

480
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: that's everyone's lovely, lovely?

481
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: That's a little success man.

482
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 5: She's a strong, assertive woman that you said. She's a

483
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 5: wonder us on Colby. I don't remember the other kid's name.

484
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: That's my cat's name, nice dry what's his real name?

485
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: Three two one? Fake bake mustared? Dude, you gotta wake

486
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 3: up pretty early in the morning. Sorry, man, you just

487
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: picked the wrong motherfuckers to play with. No, it's cool, man,

488
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 3: it's cool. But how come you wanted didn't want artistic

489
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: guy to have money? Well?

490
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: And how much of it did you? How much of

491
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: it did you think was fair to share with them?

492
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: There are stricken tractual things. You're not allowed to share

493
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: prize money on Survivor, and it's up to the jury

494
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 5: to decide who wins. So I was you know I

495
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 5: could not if you have any problem with their decision

496
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 5: making process and feeling that I was the undeserving winner,

497
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 5: their money could have gone better, It would have been

498
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: better spent on somebody else. Then take it over the jury.

499
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 5: I just plead pleaded my case, and so you agree

500
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: that you should not have won. I agree that. So, yeah,

501
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: you're right. I went to I went to the end

502
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 5: with Cherry and this lady.

503
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: He said, you're right. Write that down Engineer Ryan.

504
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: Sherry and the mother of two, one of whom that's autism, right,

505
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: and John mother of six.

506
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: Just adopted kids of different nets.

507
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cochrane, no even pets. Mm hmmm, lives in an apartment.

508
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: What'd you go to school for?

509
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: I went to law school.

510
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

511
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: The laws of the jungle baby, what kind of law?

512
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: And I never practiced.

513
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 5: I've worked in the government agency for a little bit.

514
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 5: I probably would have ended up had I not moved

515
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 5: out here, I probably would have worked it. I don't know.

516
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: Spook uh see, I come, spook.

517
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 5: Okay, I got okay, No, no, no, no, no.

518
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: You accidentally crossed over into his rich catalog of racial slurs.

519
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's entirely on him. By the way, I knew.

520
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: Exact government agency.

521
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 3: I just I knew exactly what you meant when you

522
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: said it. Well, I didn't mean to cut you off.

523
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: If you have more questions Cochrane speak on that.

524
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: What's going on? Buddy, No, no, I do not.

525
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 5: I don't worked for the government any capacity. And I

526
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 5: worked for the FCC for a little bit, worked for

527
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: Elizabeth Warren's agency for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and

528
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: I knew doubt here.

529
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: Was she a lovely woman?

530
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why didn't you say she was lovely? And every

531
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: other woman you've mentioned you said they were very lovely.

532
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: What happened?

533
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Not hot enough for you?

534
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 5: I think she's got and it looks like an at

535
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 5: Benning from uh she was in like American Beauty.

536
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: Okay checks out.

537
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: So for the record, that's two times we did bust

538
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: him and one time that we didn't. So still Sean

539
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: and Hayes is winning now after Survivor? Wait, did you

540
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: have more questions about Survivor?

541
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm curious what kinds of famous people have you

542
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: met in this little magical mystery tour of Hollywood you've

543
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: you've been on? And when do you go home?

544
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 5: And when do I go home?

545
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: Yes? The question this what kinds of famous people have

546
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: you met on this magical mystery tour of Hollywood? And

547
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: when do you go home?

548
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: Cinderell, when is the term midnight? You're a pumpkin again?

549
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: Is one of the parts.

550
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

551
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, well right now, so you know I was working

552
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 5: on the Millers and I got canceled. That was the elephant.

553
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: That's gotta be a wake up call.

554
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of your ship.

555
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: I wonder I didn't like the Spider By. I always

556
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: did wondering.

557
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: Gook go ahead.

558
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: It seemed like a lot to get away with from

559
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: a censorship perspective, because you really see it swelling up

560
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: in real time.

561
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 3: Fox maybe right Fox, Maybe if it's on at one

562
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 3: am or something.

563
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: It's difficult for me to address just because, like I

564
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: feel like I mentioned that that you're referring to a

565
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: movie starring Jason Sudeikis and Jennifer Aniston and Emma Roberts.

566
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: To me, it felt like that story was told, but

567
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 3: you had plans for a sequel or something.

568
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: Go right, I mean, so the fact that I mentioned

569
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 5: it's canceled would imply that, like it was a recurring

570
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: show that was on every week.

571
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: Where's a and see? That is one mistake because for

572
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: a show, you should do a different thing every week

573
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: instead of showing the same movie over and over again.

574
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Easy note to show up once. They may even show

575
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: up again next week the third time, I don't think

576
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: they want to see that movie and anymore.

577
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: For me, part of the game became trying to find

578
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: if you were hiding little easter eggs and differences from

579
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: week to week, maybe because.

580
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: As your friends, we did want to give it a

581
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: real chance.

582
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: And where where were you watching it? Are you going

583
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: to a theater to watch this every week? Because that

584
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: should have been red flight. But it's not like I

585
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: wrote for a TV show.

586
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'm trying to remember where I'm watching it.

587
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: It was on the side of a truck. Ah, that's

588
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: right that you had to kind of run after. It

589
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: wasn't going that fast.

590
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: No, it was a great way to stay in shape

591
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: and also to support my friend Cochran, who you know has.

592
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: Made this move. It's like you're holding you're holding a

593
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: projector and this truck is going by.

594
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 5: Any track down the truck every week to rewatch it.

595
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

596
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I suspect it wasn't the same truck a

597
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: lot of the time.

598
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

599
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: I mean again, it feels like we're talking about two

600
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 5: very different products.

601
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Like, give me two products that are different. I'm trying

602
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: to picture it.

603
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: Just at random. I'm looking at there a box of

604
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: peanut brittle.

605
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: In front of what's in the room.

606
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 5: Then I get to any two products pepsi and coke

607
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 5: they have. They're somewhat similar, Oh, but they're nonetheless different.

608
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: Like I can see, I can look, I can I'm

609
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 5: just trying to get your train of thought. I can

610
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 5: see the Miller's of the show I worked on, where

611
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: the Miller's is a movie. I can get why there'd

612
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 5: be some initial confusion.

613
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: They look exactly the same. There was even a challenge

614
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: based on the fact that you could look at both

615
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: of them and not know which one tasted like which,

616
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: and they'd try to trick you. But I don't ways, So.

617
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 5: In front of the pepsi and coke again, okay, m hmm.

618
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: You mean again? You brought it just mention that this

619
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: is your thing. You just meant pepsi and cocin. You

620
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: just started talking about it. Yeah, what's your favorite.

621
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: How you get paid for that?

622
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

623
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: What's your favorite law? What were you going to try

624
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: and do?

625
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: I did like intellectual property?

626
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: But what is your favorite law?

627
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 5: Maybe like the fair use doctrine?

628
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: That's your favorite law. If there's only that law, I

629
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: could kill you right now.

630
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: You mean from imagine what that would be like, please,

631
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: people going around being thieves, right, stabbing? Yeah, but oh

632
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: thank goodness, nobody is.

633
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, unfair using please. This is why we say use

634
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: your bean before the show. We say when you come on,

635
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: use your bean when you're talking. I just misundersand running

636
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: through the bean first, and then don't spit it out

637
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: your bean hole without knowing because it honestly is gonna

638
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: think about what kids are gonna hear this, and then

639
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: think of fair use law is more important than stealing

640
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: in murder, God, you'd ask.

641
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 5: One of my favorite I mean, in terms of what

642
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 5: would sustain a society would be a different answer. What uh,

643
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 5: probably something to apply it into murder, because I feel

644
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 5: like that would be the scariest crime to have running rampant.

645
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: Not the one against it though, just something applying to it,

646
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: something that listen to what's coming out of your hole

647
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: right now.

648
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: But then people could just steal each other's like people

649
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: could just play our podcast and say it was them, yeah,

650
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: without pain. For howl, Yes, people could just get howl

651
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: for free.

652
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: Anyone could be howl now, not just Jeff Allrick.

653
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: You can't do that, so you agree, So I feel

654
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 5: like you have to change of heart now, and you

655
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 5: seem to think.

656
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: Well, why do you have to just choose one? Yeah,

657
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: you should have a lot of loss.

658
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, that's something we say all the time.

659
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: There should be a bunch a lot. There are a lot,

660
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: keep them off my body. But yeah, you know, other

661
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: than that. But it should technically just be one. It

662
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: should just be one long one. So that's the way

663
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: you should have said. You should said, I like the

664
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: one says no killing and.

665
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: No unauthorized duplication of copyright and material.

666
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes, keep your movie to yourself.

667
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

668
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: Gren, what are you cooking on these days?

669
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: Dish?

670
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: So get near the microphone when you speak.

671
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, there.

672
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 5: I So when the show when the Miller's got canceled,

673
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 5: I had to have a writing sample get staffed on

674
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 5: another show, and then I ended up selling the pilot

675
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: that I wrote.

676
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: Because you've gotten hired the first time without having written anything, right,

677
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: yeahm hm.

678
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Which happens rather frequently.

679
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, no, I haven't. I had an unconventional path

680
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: to becoming a writer out here, and.

681
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: It shouldn't happen. And instead of saying this seems like enough,

682
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: you said, I need more.

683
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 5: I really really enjoyed it. I mean, I, like I said,

684
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 5: I was in law school. I hated law school, but

685
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 5: the writing was what I was saying.

686
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: I loved all these laws. I just it's weird to

687
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: me go ahead, but.

688
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 5: I found, like, you know, this is the first pursuit

689
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 5: of mine that I actively enjoyed on a daily basis.

690
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: So I wanted to keep doing it.

691
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: So I wrote, you ever jerk off at work?

692
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: You got your own office, right, ye? You ever working late?

693
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: Stay there a little late?

694
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

695
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: No it sometimes the taping goes late.

696
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: And feel the need to release some pressure and you.

697
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Can go like on the set when no one else

698
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: is there. You have a key, right, Yeah, there's like

699
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: a little fake bathroom in there.

700
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 5: And I can only do it in a bathroom set.

701
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: No, I don't.

702
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 5: I never masturbated at work there. Well, you're making it, son,

703
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 5: that's the only option. Why would I go out?

704
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: Apparently your imagination allows you to jerk off all over

705
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: the world, So yeah, what what's more appropriate than a bathroom?

706
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 5: Like a bedroom set?

707
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 3: Bedroom? Okay, and the set on the bedroom of where

708
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: the miller is, which I believe was inside an RV. Anyway,

709
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: go ahead.

710
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 5: Uh so, So I wrote a pilot as a writing sample,

711
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 5: and as out here, I wrote a pile. I was

712
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: writing sample and was taking meetings for staffing. But then

713
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 5: people started expressing interest in the pilots, and now I'm

714
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 5: developing it with CBS Studios and hoping that something comes

715
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: of it.

716
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: So you're going to be a nice little worker, be

717
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: on another show. But instead they said, why don't you

718
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: take your own show?

719
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: Mister man? You wrote one thing.

720
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: It seems like you should be the boss and have

721
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: the show. Hmm, how's that going?

722
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: Who bought it?

723
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: Uh?

724
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: CBS Studios is who I'm working with.

725
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, what's it about?

726
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: I feel like there's no I feel like I shouldn't

727
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 5: talk about what it's about.

728
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: It's free publicity, my friend.

729
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might get a hell of a note from

730
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: one of us too. Sometimes gold falls out of this

731
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: one's mouth. I'm pointing at Haze.

732
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 5: But I don't know who's listening, and somebody might steal

733
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: it or something.

734
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: And already got sold. If you knew anything about fairy Law.

735
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: It's your favorite law. The only thing it says is

736
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: that they can't steal your idea.

737
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: Wow?

738
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: Is that three bustings. That's the most bustings we've ever

739
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: done of the show.

740
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

741
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: What happens if you get busted too often?

742
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, three bustings equals one kicking the patuity, which we've

743
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: never actually, I've never followed through it. Never actually we've

744
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: never actually had to do We've only done one and

745
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: a half bustings before in the past.

746
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: Okay, are you willing to refrain from doing the kick?

747
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: Then? Oh well, it doesn't happen now. It happens at

748
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: some point when you're surprised.

749
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: When you're asleep.

750
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

751
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not that hard.

752
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: No, I don't have to wake you up.

753
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 5: All right?

754
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: What is the show? I mean, it's have some pride

755
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: in your show?

756
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 5: About to go next week? I'm going to we're pitching

757
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: it to network and stuff.

758
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Great practice. Yeah, let's do it here.

759
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: I am nice.

760
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, less movies.

761
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 5: Okay, John, I.

762
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: Loved you on the Survivor show. You know that's a

763
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: show of ours as well. We continue part of the

764
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: CBS family. Jeff Probes called me and made me put

765
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: you on a show for some reason. Then, for inexplicably,

766
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to carry this relationship forward.

767
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: Into another four Marcus Wiley here, I may be interested

768
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: in this as well.

769
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: So you'd like to hear about the show.

770
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Good start.

771
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 5: So the basic premise is that it's about a guy

772
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: that's not dissimilar to me. This is all my It's

773
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 5: a guy about a guy that's not dissimilar to me,

774
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 5: twenty something years old, kind of perpetually anxious, a little

775
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 5: bit of a n nebbish guy.

776
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: Would you say that in order to maybe eliminate the

777
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 3: double negative of not dissimilar to he may want to

778
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: say he's a guy, it's me like me.

779
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 5: It is similar to actually be like a all right,

780
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: that's a good that's yeah, keep going.

781
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: He with his mom, Oh okay, yeah, and then what

782
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: happens a full moon? Yeah, it's not become more powerful.

783
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 5: It's not a scary show. It's it's like very much

784
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 5: grounded kind of young person dating.

785
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: Things in the ground. Yeah, he's digging her up.

786
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

787
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 5: I mean this is going back to like what we

788
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: just discussed last time, where I can't be more I

789
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 5: don't know how much more clear I can be about like,

790
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 5: my mom is not dead and she was not reanimated.

791
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: She's not a pile of bones, she's a perfectly I

792
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 5: was gonna say lovely though she's she's.

793
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: Good for you, Lottie. I mean, this guy's bragging our friend,

794
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: your man Jack is a pile of boats we had

795
00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: to reanimate.

796
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have so you're like bragging now, like

797
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: trying to make us feel bad.

798
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing.

799
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty impressive.

800
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 5: You're described as this terrifying, kind of spooky and maybe

801
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 5: slightly creepy relationship I have with my mom based.

802
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I was just asking about the show and

803
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm and by the way, I'm plus movies here. You're

804
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: gonna let me derail you? Me Marcus Wiley, I used

805
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: to work at Fox.

806
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: Uh to challenge this person who has the power to

807
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: buy your show to change your life.

808
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I shouldn't be so argumentative about it, right,

809
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 5: So I apologize for that.

810
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: If I say your mob's a made of bones and

811
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: she's made of bones, you say, yes, sir, how many?

812
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: All right?

813
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 5: You're right, So just to clarify that, but it's not

814
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 5: she is in the sitcom. The mother character is not

815
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 5: uh dead or reanimated or anything.

816
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: So you're got my interest now, me Rupert Boondocks.

817
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: So you're gonna die on that hill. Then executive says,

818
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: what if she's made of bone? And you insist that right?

819
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 5: Uh, this is this is I'm open to the possibility

820
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: for you.

821
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: Like now, I don't.

822
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 5: I don't need to have that much like artistic integrity,

823
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 5: but I'm willing to. I'm willing to take notes.

824
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: That's it's a creative process. Rubert Burndocks. Only expect only

825
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: respect real artists. Give me back my feather boa.

826
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, all right.

827
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: So I lost Rupert.

828
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: That's tough. They're doing some coold stuff over there.

829
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Uh you have Marcus Wiley, though I don't think, and

830
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: I still have less right less end Marcus less let

831
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: Less is here.

832
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, so again I'm more like, I'm happy. I

833
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: viewed the writing as a collaudative process. I got notes

834
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: when I was writing my pilot, and I'm happy to

835
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 5: take more if you'd like the mother to take a

836
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: different direction. She's not a super primary character. It's mainly

837
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 5: about the young guy, who, like I said, is kind

838
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 5: of is me, and he has been corresponding online with

839
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 5: this girl that he met on a dating website. They

840
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 5: talk to each other on the phone and they skype

841
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 5: and stuff, and it's the first time he's really connected

842
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 5: with a girl.

843
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Nive Schumann, Well, I mean you have actually.

844
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 5: Very much predicted the punchline of the code he gets catfished.

845
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I would love to see that on TV.

846
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Catfish the show because they've only had a movie

847
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: so far.

848
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a movie and they had a real show,

849
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: and they've done it in I think several sitcoms. Is

850
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: like the plot for one episode, but I would love it.

851
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: But I would love to see it as like a

852
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: whole show.

853
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 2: So that's the whole show.

854
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: Who's playing you? Who do use?

855
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 3: You?

856
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: Do you? Who do you picture?

857
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 5: I'll be curiously what are you think too? I would say,

858
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: like a Michael Sarah e type, one of these kind

859
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 5: of spindly like you know, why are we kind of

860
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: guys that is good at looking nervous all the time.

861
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: M hmmm.

862
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say Charlene Ye Jerry Stiller.

863
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: Well, Jerry Stiller has to be at least eighty years old.

864
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: You're too good for Jerry and his wife passed away recently.

865
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: And I think that emotional plays you can channel that, Yeah,

866
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: to play you. I think that'll really, I think that'll

867
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: really help.

868
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: Then there is a mom character, so she would have

869
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 5: to be I guess older than Jerry Stiller.

870
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: Well, I mean she's of infinite age. Yeah, yeah, I

871
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: mean I don't want to be on a line. I

872
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: mean his I think you're thinking what I'm thinking. His

873
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: mom is a scout, his dead wife is playing his mom. Yes,

874
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: And I think Charlene's a great idea we get her

875
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: in there too. I mean she's definitely could be sort

876
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: of the spacey barista. Mm hmm.

877
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I get I feel like we have

878
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: sight different visions for the characters.

879
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: Is this taking shape for you?

880
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 5: I mean I think you have like an it's an

881
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 5: interesting idea of kind of like doing weird casting that

882
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 5: I don't think that having weird.

883
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: These people are mega stars.

884
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: I find it.

885
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 5: Well, I think it'd be difficult for Jerry Stiller to

886
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 5: actually be able to do like a sitcom when he's

887
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 5: having to act alongside like the Remains of his dead wife.

888
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: I feel, oh, yeah, it's gonna have to be some

889
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: fancy footwork. Contract wise.

890
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 5: I don't even just mean contractually though, like I'm thinking

891
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 5: like emotionally, it's a it's a he's probably still in

892
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: mourning and then to have to deliver jokes directed at

893
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 5: or about his wife's remains.

894
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: What kind of jokes? Like, what's what joke? Yeah, let

895
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: me hear a joke. I'll tell you if Jake could

896
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: do it from your show that like, is something that

897
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: your character played by Jersh Dillar.

898
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, just saying to the bones of VM mirror.

899
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: Okay, So it'd be like, there's a scene where the

900
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 5: mother is baking cookies.

901
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: For the son.

902
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 5: And she's putting bone density vitamins into the cookie batter

903
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: because she's concerned about the health of her son, and

904
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: she's warning him about the chalky aftertaste to the cookies.

905
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: So why can't Jared deliver that doesn't sound like he

906
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: has a fucking line in the whole scene.

907
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: That seems like a look, but the look might not be.

908
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 5: It should be more kind of like a shocked, funny

909
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 5: look instead of like one of grief.

910
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: Dude, that's a pickup. I mean you could get that

911
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: look when she's not even there up.

912
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

913
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And frankly, it's shoot to cut.

914
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: It's shoot to cut.

915
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: It's at this point hearing the whole pitch. It's shoot

916
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: to cut.

917
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: Why is she but she is bones? Should she be

918
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: taking the bone vitamins?

919
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing was written before that was where that

920
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: should just gonna be played by Bones. Uh so I'd

921
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: probably tweak it a little bit.

922
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: Bones will sue you. It should be called bones. That

923
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: is Actually that's an unfortunate fair use issue because.

924
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: By the way, that show is not really doing now

925
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: what we're talking about, which is really the story.

926
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: You're right, but I think they just called it that

927
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: because they cast David Bonie as.

928
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: It's just a reference to hit the actor. It's like Seinfeld. Yes,

929
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: I hate fair use. Now, I wish we could call

930
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: that show bones. Yeah, and now all of a suddenly

931
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: you're lost.

932
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot of cochrane.

933
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sad that's the only joke in your show

934
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 3: is just the ingredients of the cookies. That doesn't seem

935
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 3: like it's going to come across. They may not even

936
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: know about it, because she's not gonna really be able

937
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: to speak super clearly, super clearly, and he's.

938
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: Not say it anything.

939
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 5: Well, I feel that that's gonna an ongoing problem. If

940
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 5: you have the bones, like what what how will she

941
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 5: ever deliver lines?

942
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: Then I think she can project them directly into your mind.

943
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 2: But a challenge for choice.

944
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: For all of the yeah, to harness the mind of

945
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: everyone why the show? What she would end up doing

946
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: is probably accidentally projecting into a lot of people who

947
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: are not watching or watching a different which could.

948
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Be great viral marketing, but it's just not necessarily what

949
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: we want.

950
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: So you'd be watching ridiculousness or something and you just

951
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: get piped into your brain by accident. Got to add

952
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: the bone. Well no, no, no she does because sorry, sorry, sorry,

953
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: because she doesn't say that out loud because it's a secret.

954
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: No, but it's in your mind getting coming in. Oh right, right, right,

955
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: So normal cookies.

956
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: Coming up, normal cookies. But you saw and you're going like, wait,

957
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: I miss what he said.

958
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: Then you rewind it and dear it goes like oh.

959
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: Then for the people watching, they know because they see

960
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: the package of bone deesity vitamins resting.

961
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: On her.

962
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the problem with the.

963
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: With a bunch of cook He's it's trun on there

964
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: as well. You could put almost anything on top of it.

965
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

966
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 5: I guess they're working arounds in terms of like how

967
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 5: to incorporate her into it. I feel like it's it's writing.

968
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: It becomes difficult though.

969
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: Just like, well, that's why, that's why I'm not buying

970
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: your pitch, Marcus Wiley.

971
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 5: Leaves, because what was the turning point for you that.

972
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: Well, you said there's difficulties writing it, and I couldn't agree.

973
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: You're the writer.

974
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're the one guy who I have to think

975
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: has confidence in writing it.

976
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: Right.

977
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like, again we went down this path

978
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: of the bone stuff that was not my initial vision,

979
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 5: and I was kind of doing that to Playcate you

980
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 5: and maybe like not Playcate, but like try to like

981
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 5: have our visions a little bit more aligned for the show.

982
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 5: And I feel like if we kind a compromise between

983
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 5: the two things of having.

984
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Like half bones half human, I mean.

985
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: I feel like that would be a step in the

986
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 5: right direction.

987
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: Half down the middle or half top of bottom skeleton

988
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: legs on them.

989
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: And Mira's legs leg bones hastily assembled on like Jane

990
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 1: Chasmeric's frame or something.

991
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: I think having the bones for the bottom half.

992
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: Why not just get Jake Kasmar Yeah, at that point,

993
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: she's a pro.

994
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: Why do you need to take a dead celebrities bones

995
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: which may or may not be the right ones. I mean,

996
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: I assume you don't. You're not an expert on this,

997
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm not.

998
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 5: I'm not. And I agree that actually getting Jane Kasmeric

999
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 5: would be the preferable thing, because I'm I was never

1000
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 5: fully on.

1001
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: The take credit for that pitch that was his.

1002
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: And I also don't think that she's within range.

1003
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's much younger than Jared, right, But I'm saying that, like,

1004
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: if we're getting rid of.

1005
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 5: Jerry's wife's bones, then maybe Jerry isn't quite as essential

1006
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 5: to the production like that was did you see Playing

1007
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 5: You Again twenty between twenty five and thirty? And like

1008
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: I said, Jerry has to be at least eighty.

1009
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pass less movies. What are you gonna do?

1010
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: I if I'm less movies, I would rather see you

1011
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: go on Survivor again? Will you do that?

1012
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 5: I won't, I know, because I'm not. I really do

1013
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 5: want to focus on the writing career now. I feel

1014
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 5: like going to Survivor again would be a step backwards

1015
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 5: and counterproductive.

1016
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: Well what if it's instead of nothing? Right?

1017
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 5: So that's the alternative is nothing and less negotiates like this, Right,

1018
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 5: he's a feast or famine sort of guy.

1019
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: Mm hm hmm.

1020
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 5: I mean in that case, if this is you explicitly

1021
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 5: telling me that, like, the writing is not going to

1022
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 5: be a sustainable career for me and the only other

1023
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 5: alternative is to play.

1024
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: No, I'm not being explicit about it. I'm kind of

1025
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: dancing around it. Yeah.

1026
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, then I mean in that case I would be

1027
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 5: amenable to plan Survivor again.

1028
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we can't wait to see you back on

1029
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: Survivor and Cochrane, thanks so much for coming in. And

1030
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: your phone is ringing or something, so we'll see when

1031
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: we see you. And the pro version is going to

1032
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: go to one of our listeners.

1033
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: Let's think, who's a good listener to give it to?

1034
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: Touchy Touchy Sily. That's good U Touchy Cely gets the

1035
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: pro version and then you must have some what's your

1036
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: prize for the pro version? Cochrane? You're a writer?

1037
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 5: Is that I give like you give it?

1038
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a special present from you that is just

1039
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: for Touchy Sealy.

1040
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1041
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 5: I could give a signed Survivor buff.

1042
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: Good.

1043
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we said you're a writer, and you thought,

1044
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: what do I do with a pen? I signed to him?

1045
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Mean it's survivors, Touchy Seally if you can find him,

1046
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: I guess he told you to give you that.

1047
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Bye, Hollywood, and book is brought to you by Wolf

1048
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: Cool Production

1049
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 2: To subsidiary of Calvin Unhobbs Ow Baby